HOW TO MAKE IT - Music Industry (Extra Tips - Nick Gatfield, Sony Music)

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theinternbook

theinternbook

10 жыл бұрын

MORE SECRET TIPS!!!...HTMI - for those that want to work in the MUSIC INDUSTRY from Nick Gatfield, CEO of Sony Music (UK). Your favourite artists are likely to come from Sony with a stable of artists as diverse as 1Direction & Justin Timberlake to Barbra Streisand & Kings Of Leon. As well as that, they team up with Simon Cowell's SYCO to make the X-Factor. So if you want to work with someone like Nick Gatfield, nows the time to start taking notes.
Nick's talks about how his involvement in music started from his passion for it as a kid and then going on to be part of Dexys Midnight Runners. Realising that there is often a shelf life in being a musician he quickly went into the business side of the industry & found other career options. Also keep an eye out for how & why One Direction became the juggernaut they are & advice for aspiring musicians on what he looks for when signing acts.
www.sonymusic.co.uk/
A MUST SEE for those that want to work in the music industry and want to get ahead. He's really got some wise words for those that want to make it.
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Enjoy
Dillon Khan
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@emfromthechi
@emfromthechi 5 жыл бұрын
So basically, build your own fan base. Then let the label take over so they can make all the money. Makes sense.
@EYTPS
@EYTPS 4 жыл бұрын
The good old free market, amirite?
@DetroitWrecker666
@DetroitWrecker666 4 жыл бұрын
@@EYTPS it's not so much about the free market as it is greed. Along with REALLY shitty people over the years. Who had no problems taking advantage of young kids who don't know any better. Believe me! There's a SPECIAL place in hell for people like David Geffen, Jimmy Iovine.
@danrebolledo8385
@danrebolledo8385 4 жыл бұрын
Labels are simply not in the artist development business anymore. Like any business trying to attract an investor you have to show proof of concept. In the music business that means that you demonstrate the talent skills drive and presents in the market that would attract investment. If you don't want to participate in the business exercise you can be very very happy artist outside of that. But if you want to do business you have to show that you're able to do business.
@kevinjoseph517
@kevinjoseph517 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryneagheilim9782 so commoners can listen for free?
@emfromthechi
@emfromthechi 3 жыл бұрын
@@danrebolledo8385 you got it backwards. The labels ARE the investors. They're basically a record loan company. Everything they pay for you have to pay back, and then pay them a fee for it too.
@MrBlackcat001
@MrBlackcat001 6 жыл бұрын
Be calm and know you are loved, spend your life making your artwork and be free of status anxiety and the illusion of success! Understand that your greatest achievements will come from within.
@Thecoolmombarbie
@Thecoolmombarbie 4 жыл бұрын
George Firipis ❤️❤️
@YannisKapa
@YannisKapa 4 жыл бұрын
Pete Medlhux don’t quit your day job
@chrispayne750
@chrispayne750 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, so what I learned is that FIRST you must make it on your own and gain almost all your fans by yourself, and THEN the label will want you so they can profit from all your hard work. Okay, I think I Got it!
@tpete096
@tpete096 7 жыл бұрын
How to make money in the music industry: Don't sign with any of these blood suckers.
@eman0828
@eman0828 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Major Labels raped you out of your money and put you into debt. Many people forget you gotta pay those advances back essentially massive bank loans that the label recoups. Many times you may never reach past the recoupment and go into debt.
@rachidajewher8649
@rachidajewher8649 3 жыл бұрын
not true if you wanna turn international you need a label for the mass advertisements worldwide otherwise you'll stay local
@Only1SapphireDiamond
@Only1SapphireDiamond Жыл бұрын
Don’t sign a deal sign a partnership & make sure you have a good lawyer, not a lawyer the music label recommended either
@MrZelunjo36
@MrZelunjo36 9 жыл бұрын
The reality about music industry now is that it about the connection you have with someone in the record label as an upcoming artist
@IsraJZ
@IsraJZ 4 жыл бұрын
no its not. it has never been,it isnt now and will never be
@raumaanking
@raumaanking 3 жыл бұрын
Then what will it be because I really want to be a famous musician
@fortooney
@fortooney 3 жыл бұрын
@@raumaanking dont focus on being famous, you won’t. Focus on being unique, develop your own style, gotta feeling in your hits and know what’s your target audience.
@raumaanking
@raumaanking 3 жыл бұрын
@@fortooney hi thankyou and yes will take your advice I am starting to go singing lessons and I am 17 years old do you think that is to old to become famous because I really want to be famous so badly but I also what to have successful music I love singing I love all music including music that were made in the 1930s I just want to follow the footsteps of Elvis Presley Marilyn Monroe Micheal Jackson Judy Garland Drake Rihanna and Ariana grande
@fortooney
@fortooney 3 жыл бұрын
@@raumaanking dw, The Weeknd started 10years, he was 20yo, 50cent he was 21yo, drake 20yo.. I mean it depends on your target audience if like Justin Bieber etc it’s better to start too young. In all cases, it’s better to start younger, but if not, it doesn’t matter , don’t get yourself stressed and anxious like I wanna be famous etc... there are hundreds of thousands of people there, just do your best, publish your music everywhere and the rest will come. I will not deny that also luck plays a huge part of the game! So i know if you very love the music, I mean if you don’t get famous you will still sing? If not then, I think you are just obsessed with the idea of becoming famous Like he said here build an online audience, why not an offline too, you will get the interest of major records label. Again, don’t focus on being famous please, don’t get stressed, all famous ones, Justin Bieber, Billie Eilish, Shawn Mendes, Ed Sheeran, they didn’t know they will become so famous, they just work their ass off, i mean Ed Sheeran had a cracked voice, but he didn’t give up, he improved ; just persevere & do your best. Take it like you want to make 1M$ in sales, you have to focus on the process, which is making i.e 25.000 sales * 40$. I hope it helps!
@moderndaywarrior5775
@moderndaywarrior5775 9 жыл бұрын
Wanna know how to end up with a million dollars in the music business? Start with five million.
@mrinout5512
@mrinout5512 5 жыл бұрын
You failed then . .
@DeeMaccYT
@DeeMaccYT 5 жыл бұрын
I can make it to the industry cause I’m up next 💯🙏🏽🔥
@laveras6641
@laveras6641 5 жыл бұрын
That's so true when the artist has little to no concept of the industry or self awareness.
@DeeMaccYT
@DeeMaccYT 5 жыл бұрын
Laveras check me out I’m up next
@huntermac2386
@huntermac2386 5 жыл бұрын
Dee Macc rap will be dead soon
@djdeadbeatz
@djdeadbeatz 7 жыл бұрын
Labels are irrelevant, for the most part. If your good, nobody can deny talent.
@KenfolkRainzero187
@KenfolkRainzero187 7 жыл бұрын
true
@KEGS211
@KEGS211 5 жыл бұрын
SlumBeats not true
@babyblue5884
@babyblue5884 5 жыл бұрын
Not true
@astrixion
@astrixion 5 жыл бұрын
lolz
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 5 жыл бұрын
yea... yea they can.
@aarwonable
@aarwonable 8 жыл бұрын
Go for an independent label! Generally they are nicer and have respect for the artist. They also enjoy the music and support the band. Majority of them have a lot of contacts and some money to help with tours, records, etc. They are also generally based around a certain style or genre/sub-genre. Thus they are able to get a bunch of similar bands on their roster, and they genuinely like that type of music. Great indie labels include Hopeless Records (All Time Low, Neck Deep, the Wonder Years), Fearless Records (Pierce the Veil, Chunk! No, Captain Chunk!, Mayday Parade), Nuclear Blast Records (Nightwish, Slayer, Anthrax), Run for Cover Records (Basement, Modern Baseball, Turnover), and Pure Noise Records (the Story So Far, Four Year Strong, State Champs). If you do consider indie labels, just remember to avoid Victory Records as they will screw you over.
@devonseegers692
@devonseegers692 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man! I've never heard this about Victory.... Would you say the way to go for an independent label is by working social media channels? I'd love to know if you think it is better to self-release the best you can with moderate expectations than to shop your albums around.
@DetroitWrecker666
@DetroitWrecker666 5 жыл бұрын
Form your own label
@thema1998
@thema1998 4 жыл бұрын
@@DetroitWrecker666 How do you form your own label?
@DetroitWrecker666
@DetroitWrecker666 4 жыл бұрын
@@thema1998 The same way you would form any business. LLC is the easiest way to go about it. A "Record Label" is simply another business.
@mikeymills8093
@mikeymills8093 9 жыл бұрын
Like Dave Grohl once said: "FUCK PRODUCT, PLACEMENT AND ALL THAT BULLSHIT. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. JUST MAKE GREAT SONGS AND BE AN AWSOME LIVE BAND AND TOUR THE WORLD".
@messiahblack4816
@messiahblack4816 6 жыл бұрын
Mikey Mills dont forget form relationships...there are tons of great bands who look and sound phenomenal but if nobody knows you youre dead..
@jamezmonroe
@jamezmonroe 6 жыл бұрын
You're talking like a REAL LOSER!!!
@schotanusser
@schotanusser 9 жыл бұрын
tip number one: don't sign to a record label.
@sophiemudge5529
@sophiemudge5529 3 жыл бұрын
Especially sony
@HeadbangoO
@HeadbangoO 5 жыл бұрын
At least he's honest, he says you make it by "making it" by yourself first. Then you sign with a major, you give them 85% of your income and they put you to debt by making you pay for recording and making CDs, although they own the studio and no one buys CDs anymore... They say the music industry is dead, but it's only this old model that is dead. Artists will always be there, they just don't need these major scammers anymore.
@spaceorbison
@spaceorbison 5 жыл бұрын
thats exactly right
@TheRussianGenius
@TheRussianGenius 5 жыл бұрын
To the comments below me: "Selling your soul" is a synonym for "I traded everything I had". Whether you want to make it in music, KZbin, or sports, you absolutely will have to put 40-75% of your time to your craft and say "no" a lot to the people that wanna hang out. There's a lot you're going to lose in exchange for what you want to achieve, that's where the phrase "selling your soul to the devil" came from. Little background story. When I was 14 I believed in that pretty much, to a point where I went to a priest and spoke with them about it for an hour or two to hear their opinion on it. I heard so many musicians say that and I actually believed in it too, but later the more I was writing songs and analyzing lyrics and going deep in some subjects I realized it's not exactly real.
@Cborda
@Cborda 3 жыл бұрын
God is real but you’re right about that “selling your soul” synonym
@MimiYouyu
@MimiYouyu 3 жыл бұрын
No smoke without fire. You can sell your time, your work, your ideas, your product, thats all. Sell you soul , yes that is very much a real thing, and its worth more than gold to them , its your integrity, your essence, your hope and morals, your beliefs, your future. Its your light. And you better believe the want it. Just say no, thank you, and do things your way. Thats your God given right.
@joemelendezfor43
@joemelendezfor43 9 жыл бұрын
Music is my life it's how I live. I always try to improvise my own music. It's more than just money for me.
@curtish9499
@curtish9499 5 жыл бұрын
Create an Indie Record Label so you don't have to become a slave to the Major record Labels (that's my advice). 😎
@hollytrumpler4146
@hollytrumpler4146 3 жыл бұрын
Talent will never guarantee you a shot, I know for a fact the best singer alive right you is probably sitting at home singing to themselves and will never be famous because they don’t have the resources to
@leecurtis3051
@leecurtis3051 7 жыл бұрын
This is why music sucks nowadays. Artists are spending 80% of their practice and session time goofing around trying to create a social media presence. Im sorry, but thats the labels job. Theyre supposed to have some intern setting up all the social media, while the artist is IN THE STUDIO. You don't see brain surgeons operating the phones at the front desk, and you shouldnt have your musical prodigy typing away on their smart phone when they could be making hits. These labels are fucking lazy, and I dont even see what it is they are offering anymore.
@marycherry7050
@marycherry7050 6 жыл бұрын
Lee Curtis I don't even have time To try and tell you why your wrong (ill try anyway). This is a successful man in the music industry, that has signed *successful* acts in the industry, telling people whatvto di to make it and you, you [insert insulting adjective] couch potato, are trying to tell him that *he* is wrong (not you)??? 🤔 Hmm i wonder who people in their right minds are going to listen to 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. You need to fuck off.
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 5 жыл бұрын
except for pop music, I don't find much wrong with current day edm
@Krafty
@Krafty 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it any better myself. By the time you have the major labels attention, you've already done the hard work yourself. Why bother splitting the profits? Like you said, lazy. They're just signing whatever relevant act is dumb enough to sign their rights away lol the music industry is fucked.
@anxiahh3772
@anxiahh3772 5 жыл бұрын
That’s what a manager is for 😂😂 yo manage your content
@daveowens
@daveowens 5 жыл бұрын
Lee Curtis Yes, but that’s how it is these days. Giving off the perception of being successful before you actually are is how the world spins now. I got my first record deal directly from my MySpace having so many people connected to me early on. Silly, but true.
@alexanderwood3465
@alexanderwood3465 9 жыл бұрын
Its all very well having a big social media presence, but there are a lot of people out there who came of age when the whole idea of social media was in its infancy, and no one really considered just how far it could eventually be applied. When KZbin first came out most people viewed it as an online version of You've Been Framed. A lot of aspiring musicians at the time didn't think of how an account with millions of views could lead to a potential career in the music industry, we never thought that the music industry would eventually take it seriously and become dependent on it to make critical business decisions. Opportunities like that were entirely missed - it was only in hindsight that a lot of people thought 'shit, we should have started doing this ages ago'. So its a bit unfair to assume that just because a musician doesn't have millions of followers means they're not worth taking a chance on.
@theinternbook
@theinternbook 9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Wood I think the point is today A&Rs from labels look at signs that help them make a decision to sign someone or not. A major one being, does the band or solo artist i'm looking at have a following of people who enjoy their music. Its not to say someone with a zero base of followers won't get signed, it just makes it a lot harder. Some labels are willing to take someone from zero to one hundred.
@alexanderwood3465
@alexanderwood3465 9 жыл бұрын
theinternbook Yeah, I know some labels will take a chance even if the major labels won't, but I just think its a shame because they could miss out on someone who's really talented, because their opinion would be based on the size of their following as opposed to the quality of the music. Personally if I was in this position I wouldn't bother with major labels anymore, the sheer amount of lowest-common-denominator stuff they've put out is an insult to people who live and breathe music. The audience that gets prioritised are those who see music as a distraction/novelty from their everyday lives and not a valuable life-affirming experience.
@alexanderwood3465
@alexanderwood3465 9 жыл бұрын
Ellis Banks At least someone does :) I'm one of these people. I'm a musician who composes, writes songs and am in the stage of setting up a band page, but by the time I reach the amount of followers they're looking for i'll be regarded as too old to gain any kind of experience in the industry. And coming from Hull I'll face more resistance since I won't be part of the hip cosmopolitan 'in-the-know' scene they'll expect from someone who they would consider signing.
@alexanderwood3465
@alexanderwood3465 8 жыл бұрын
+YouandmetogetherBlahh Thanks mate
@valentinag.7633
@valentinag.7633 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know what to think now
@lastsaiyanleft
@lastsaiyanleft 8 жыл бұрын
Don't sign to a label. they will fuck you over. Create your own brad and company and that way you get to keep all the profits. Look at LA Reid. He signed Bobby Schmurda to Epic Records. but has a list of excuses when he can easily set the bail and get him out. Labels don't care unless you are popping and they can make money off you.
@jimmysmith9255
@jimmysmith9255 9 жыл бұрын
This really shifted my perception as an artist, and also as a person. I'm going to continue to work on my music for now, and take these tips into consideration. Just watch I'm going to make it into the industry , evolve my music, and fulfil my vision . Just watch.
@Chr1s2023TDWP
@Chr1s2023TDWP 9 жыл бұрын
Same here dude, we'll make it
@Megan-ji7ir
@Megan-ji7ir 8 жыл бұрын
+Jimmy Smith . so am i for sure i know it.. no one else sounds like me i have a very unique strong powerful voice i have the look the whole package.. i know i will so look out for me :-) would luv to hear u jimmy ? my music and songs are amazing..
@santibarrons
@santibarrons 8 жыл бұрын
+Jimmy Smith Hold that thought, I have it as well. Attitude is everything mate
@Chr1s2023TDWP
@Chr1s2023TDWP 8 жыл бұрын
not sure what you mean
@santibarrons
@santibarrons 8 жыл бұрын
+Chr1st L1ves For3v3r i meant keep yourself motivated mate. You'll get wherever you want to go
@Thefreemans-interesting-music
@Thefreemans-interesting-music 9 жыл бұрын
So you want successful bands that do not need a record label? Why would they give you half their income if they are doing all the work?
@ibrahimabarry4937
@ibrahimabarry4937 5 жыл бұрын
Because they’re giving them the exposure
@thetitansofcitycarter7207
@thetitansofcitycarter7207 5 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimabarry4937 who's giving whom the exposer???
@amachanmusic
@amachanmusic 3 жыл бұрын
If you're wondering why this comment section is "negative" here's why: The most important part of the house is the basement. The most exhaustive part of a rocket travel is the launch. The toughest times in business are the first five years. The hardest subscribers to get are your first 100 And so on... So label companies only want to invest in artists who already been through the toughest portion of their respective careers...The beginning! Artists feel that if they can survive the toughest part of the journey without a label then.......They can continue on without them.
@inga1721
@inga1721 9 жыл бұрын
Online environment is saturated with musicians. However, the value is created by scarcity. The artist is now greatly devalued. What does e.g. 5000 youtube views really mean? Does it automatically translate to e.g. 5000 profit (e.g. 1 euro per song)? I don't believe it. I would be very scared to sign with a record company that hires summer interns that count views and followers and then report the numbers to the big boss you see in the video and then he signs tha one with the most views. I don't have a master plan but I think the world needs more vision. Like where is Adele now? Lady Gaga is fading. Lana del Rey exited me but is now laying low. Big butts everywhere. The sound quality is good but where is the feeling, the soul, the VISION? Uhh, I must be too naive for this world but I need something exiting.
@HALFAMAZINGTV
@HALFAMAZINGTV 8 жыл бұрын
+Inga M. absolutely on point.
@iboplays5934
@iboplays5934 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, Adele took some time off for her son and Gaga was touring the world with jazz legend Tony Bennett and starring in American Horror Story. I get the point you're making, but Adele and Gaga are definitely here to stay.
@inga1721
@inga1721 8 жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I was listening to Waves by Mr Probz. Not the remix. There are some masterpieces in modern music too😊 Phew
@inga1721
@inga1721 8 жыл бұрын
Thank for the info. So nice to get polite and informative replies.
@Profeus
@Profeus 7 жыл бұрын
Inga you can check out my band... 'the secret mission'. you maybe in for a pleasant surprise ;)
@PonzWasTaken
@PonzWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who finds it very ironic how he wants artists who are passionate about music, yet he clearly isn't? Won't even consider signing an artist who doesn't already have a digital footprint is a great practise if you are *only* interested in money, but horrible if you genuinely want to find new and up-coming artists who have talent and passion. He wants us to have the will and dedication to build our own fan base so we can get noticed by Sony. And in the less polite term, he wants us to put in all the work, time and effort so we do their jobs for them. Then take us in, as well as taking 50% of revenue despite us still doing 100% of the work. NEVER SIGN WITH SONY.
@pierpaolodebona5777
@pierpaolodebona5777 4 жыл бұрын
They put you on board after the hard work is done.
@jamiegallacher6378
@jamiegallacher6378 9 жыл бұрын
Under the 'old' music model....LABELS were Gods!!! Now with so many opportunities for artists and bands to create their own destinies, using social media and 'free' serives you DON NOT NEED RECORD LABELS!!! Yes, if you want to be 'ripped off' in terms of what percentage of money is returned to you (after total deductions from the record label) go ahead and strive for that 'golden' deal. However, listen to the man himself.....IF a person is going to have to do just about everything themselves....why would you need a record label???? This idea is FINISHED newbies!!! take the DIY route, control your own destiny, your own product (e.g. your music and songs) and enjoy the hard earned fruits of your labour!
@olofpohlson3771
@olofpohlson3771 9 жыл бұрын
good luck with with publicity. that stuff is expensive and time consuming, that's where labels still shine.
@jamiegallacher6378
@jamiegallacher6378 9 жыл бұрын
I agree....it's the truth unfortunately.
@personone8945
@personone8945 9 жыл бұрын
Jamie Gallacher Individual artists can adapt to the industry BETTER than the big companies can. I was a struggling musician until I found this: musicmarketingclassroom.com/consultancy/?hop=144000
@krisumusic
@krisumusic 9 жыл бұрын
Jamie Gallacher I have no label, don't see why I would, I can live off my streaming revenue and things seem to be ten times bigger by every year :O
@jamiegallacher6378
@jamiegallacher6378 9 жыл бұрын
Brill....now trll me ur secret cos I'd love to know how to do that shit! :)
@rickOshaymusic
@rickOshaymusic 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips, the one that helped me the most is making sure you go in with a concrete mindset, you get taught to be diverse and open in most instances of life, i like the fact i can just be me and be prideful without having to turn down and put on the blue collar front in business situations like this.
@AudsLecker
@AudsLecker 6 жыл бұрын
Oh hey I used to work there (US) ;) "I won't sign an act now unless I've seen some sort of online presence"
@Greta_Macedonio
@Greta_Macedonio 3 жыл бұрын
Basically I need to be an "influencer" first, buils your fan base, work with social media... And be all the things I don't want to be because I want to be a Musician only.. Sad
@don2nd650
@don2nd650 2 жыл бұрын
its pretty whack but at the same time we have to work around it for success
@tintarabochia9422
@tintarabochia9422 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for advice I was really scared when I first started making music and was very lost how to get any attention of people and as well any record label which really helped me so thank you I'll try my best through my life to achieve something out of my music career since I'm really passionate about music and it means everything to me :)
@CVerse
@CVerse 5 жыл бұрын
The government really needs to intervene into this industry. The record labels have had too much power for too long and many artists struggle in such a competitive industry while their bosses make band and leaves most artists in debt. The system is formed where only the biggest artists survive, and it's sad to see how many upcoming musicians will have to sacrifice their own "souls" just to land the spot. The film whiplash and Black Swan really illustrates that message well of a struggling artist. And who's to blame? It's the system, and rampant Capitalism.
@kiraknutsonkillakirawbeats6297
@kiraknutsonkillakirawbeats6297 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Important to know.
@cosmicdarkmatter1128
@cosmicdarkmatter1128 5 жыл бұрын
interesting how he doesn't mention Michael Jackson in his list of artists that Sony has worked with.... very interesting indeed...
@lyndxnjoel6917
@lyndxnjoel6917 4 жыл бұрын
Cause they killed him
@bottle3014
@bottle3014 4 жыл бұрын
thought the same thing
@jayb490
@jayb490 3 жыл бұрын
@@lyndxnjoel6917 yep
@cosmicdarkmatter1128
@cosmicdarkmatter1128 3 жыл бұрын
@bruh moment I didn't know that. Bet they regret it tho
@mozzy1268
@mozzy1268 2 жыл бұрын
because this is Sony Music UK dumbass
@og-majorr8540
@og-majorr8540 9 жыл бұрын
Great tips! Realistic as it gets, beans been spilt. Shot man!
@daniellegleitsman4575
@daniellegleitsman4575 8 жыл бұрын
So, how you "make it" is by basically already "making it", then a major label grabs you and either you "make it" and they profit off of you, or you/they dont.... C'mon guys, you dont have to make a million dollars OR be stuck in a crazy contract to "make it".
@Kai2times
@Kai2times 5 жыл бұрын
danielle gleitsman get a local buzz then they help u become global
@hallebeedoo
@hallebeedoo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! So true.
@user-xt6bd9ch8g
@user-xt6bd9ch8g 4 жыл бұрын
You ever watch shark tank ? You cant claim to be a business.. without doing business. If you ask a label for help the only valuable question is are you able to help yourself? For them to amplify your results.
@isabellawainright7190
@isabellawainright7190 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I was on the right track! When I wanted to put together a new band, I followed a lot of these steps. I couldn't call it "The Natalya Flores Band" because I am writing the music and lyrics, so I chose "Isabella Wainright" because Isabella is a classic vampire name and kinda creepy, and Wainright because it sounded victorian and prestigious. WainRight and not WainWright was just to be different, or add realism. When developing the theme for Isabella Wainright, I took inspiration from Alfred Hitchcock, Twilight Zone, and b-grade horror movies from my childhood. On Friday, October 13th (purely coincidental) The first thing I did was line up a pro photographer to shoot the photo of Natalya for our main profile photo and started up all the online sites, just about every platform I could. I knew I wanted the music to be heavy rock, melodic, and mainstream, but still have that creepy element; just enough mystery to draw you in. I was remembering Hitchcock's "The Birds," in digging on youtube, found a bunch of documentaries on crows. I combined that with my frustrations of dating in the modern era and wrote our first single "A Murder of Crows." Musically I stuck to the KISS technique of keeping it simple. To make it flow nicely I made sure to set up the chorus with a pre and a post. I repeated the title of the song enough times to get it stuck in your head, but not bore you to death. I had been posting lyrics and pictures for about a month or two, and started to build a good online presence using a lot of suspense- Facebook, Twitter, Revebnation, all those sites. Took about a month to find the right musicians to record with, wrote a few more in the process, went into to the studio for a 3 song demo, and got it to the music sites with distrokid. Fanbase grew pretty rapidly. We played the open mics and the opening acts. Made sure to get some live footage online, and started a buzz around town. Played a battle of the bands sponsored by a radio station, and our name was all over the radio for a few weeks. Took to Instagram @bellawainright and the vision I had before was much easier to convey. We have the most followers there. Now we're at the stage where we're headlining our own shows. Fanbase is steadily growing. Next move is to put together a press kit and start working THIS part of the industry. Thank you again for sharing this information, it was very educational! -Daniel James Brennan, Isabella Wainright Music
@lighthorseaudiolab3855
@lighthorseaudiolab3855 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@mrtda1000
@mrtda1000 10 жыл бұрын
This was exactly what i was looking for! Thank you!
@theinternbook
@theinternbook 9 жыл бұрын
Snick Anzo Glad you liked it. Check out the video from Ben at XL Recordings too,
@ponceabby44
@ponceabby44 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate him trying to educate us and all and i appreciate the raw truth but this theory has some flaws, just because someone has a huge fan base it doesnt necessarily mean theyre the greatest, Ive heard amazing people who dont even have a youtube. Alot of people online build fan bases and success by buying likes or promoting a giveaway, not just raw talent o.o Thats why its called scouting theyre supposed to be scouting through the rocks to find gems. theyre making it about what can make the 'big boys' wallets fat fast, and less about the actual talent, the music or shaping communities and even generations with the messages they put out.
@larrencesumpter4050
@larrencesumpter4050 8 жыл бұрын
What he failed to mention is that you have to sell your soul
@luiscarrion1565
@luiscarrion1565 8 жыл бұрын
No you don't
@larrencesumpter4050
@larrencesumpter4050 8 жыл бұрын
+Luis Carrion yes u do
@luiscarrion1565
@luiscarrion1565 8 жыл бұрын
Larrence Sumpter to sing or rap? Or to be signed to a label?
@larrencesumpter4050
@larrencesumpter4050 8 жыл бұрын
+Luis Carrion no to be a star u have to let go of some of ur morals
@larrencesumpter4050
@larrencesumpter4050 8 жыл бұрын
+Luis Carrion yes u do
@feeddsheep5440
@feeddsheep5440 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@SoulPapiii
@SoulPapiii 3 жыл бұрын
that last beat is GOING CRAZY IM NOT EVEN LYING but yo i like this guy i can read the sincerity in his character and his demeanor this is the TYPE OF GUY RIGHT HERE to really BLOW you up as an artist hes not gunna take the bullshvt he wants you to really be about it and when your about it? he will lay his divine hands on the industry .. and pull the strings neccessary to see if you can manuever your way to the top through the chaos
@SoulPapiii
@SoulPapiii 3 жыл бұрын
^
@SoulPapiii
@SoulPapiii 3 жыл бұрын
^
@SoulPapiii
@SoulPapiii 3 жыл бұрын
^
@BelieveMunashe
@BelieveMunashe 7 жыл бұрын
ID CONTINUE TO LIKE THIS A HUNDRED TIMES IF I COULD
@BluJay-vx3bw
@BluJay-vx3bw 5 ай бұрын
This was very interesting and I'm taking notes thanks for the info grind time 💯💥
@logersasavo1445
@logersasavo1445 8 жыл бұрын
Good to know... Thank you
@stillasabutterfly9706
@stillasabutterfly9706 7 жыл бұрын
self image, ground work digital presence
@theelephantintheroom69
@theelephantintheroom69 Жыл бұрын
"How do I get into the music industry" isn't the issue anymore; self-release is easier now than ever. We should be asking "how do I *STAND OUT* in the music industry?"
@eugenemichael9833
@eugenemichael9833 8 жыл бұрын
I love what you said about music from the heart, thanx alot for this video
@aarwonable
@aarwonable 8 жыл бұрын
+Eugene Michael I hope you know that this video is a bunch of bull crap.
@alhagiejobe5391
@alhagiejobe5391 5 жыл бұрын
Well said Nick
@nkarfootTv
@nkarfootTv 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you or you time in sharing this. I've met James Arthur. I understand this a little more.
@UncleSaMaX
@UncleSaMaX 8 жыл бұрын
Great...
@mgg1273
@mgg1273 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice! Ty
@DeltaParole
@DeltaParole 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 5 жыл бұрын
"don't send in demos" ah yeah so that's why labels have a demo drop. forgot about that
@AleBalliana
@AleBalliana 5 жыл бұрын
the fact that he says that 'if you don't have an online presence then you probably don't have the drive to be a successful artist' makes me really sad about what being an artist has become nowadays. Is it just me?
@richasharma581
@richasharma581 4 жыл бұрын
Just being viral
@Lokoworldentertainment
@Lokoworldentertainment 7 жыл бұрын
THANKUL FOR THE INFO
@QuaaludeCharlie
@QuaaludeCharlie 5 жыл бұрын
I Made it pretty big in the U.S.A. singing about a Level Stationery World , and just Life Music , I was able to Retire in 2007 , I still do a solo gig , Here on youtube , it's not as good as Playing with others but it is fun :) QC
@vlogventures8099
@vlogventures8099 9 жыл бұрын
sonjea here awsome interview
@larsonsphotography
@larsonsphotography 4 жыл бұрын
WOW Crazy tips but it is the truth, Thanks
@markmiller2621
@markmiller2621 6 жыл бұрын
excellent
@bobrouge3908
@bobrouge3908 8 жыл бұрын
Love the interview .... a lot of great advice....Thanks
@JH-dk3oz
@JH-dk3oz 10 жыл бұрын
Thankyou,this helps! I love singing&would love to make it in the music industry
@RiversideProds
@RiversideProds 9 жыл бұрын
Jessica, if you look good in a miniskirt and can sell products, they'll want you. The music industry? It's not what you think. But if you want to be a musician you have 2 or 3 choices .... start a killer cover band and play corporate gigs, weddings, parties, etc., and you'll make a living .... do your own thing but move to Nashville if you want to get placed ... or score for TV (you have to know someone or have a relative on a production team.
@JH-dk3oz
@JH-dk3oz 9 жыл бұрын
Thankyou!
@LildAnakin
@LildAnakin 10 жыл бұрын
This was great!
@theinternbook
@theinternbook 9 жыл бұрын
lilddaprince Real advice from an industry heavy weight
@MalachiEastling
@MalachiEastling 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, you look super intelligent. I was never good at advertising my music or good with media, I'm a ghost everywhere & being in a little town doesn't help. Some people are just dumbfounded when it comes to all this computer world stuff.
@miguelslocomusica2900
@miguelslocomusica2900 7 жыл бұрын
Beware that record companies will do you no favours. This is a brutal and ruthless industry. Even being signed does not mean record companies will go out and promote your work. It's a well trodden road. Even great artists have been rogered by the big companies. Get a good lawyer before you sign anything and always try to retain some ownership of your material.
@eman0828
@eman0828 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. People buy into these Major Labels and get into these deals and end up getting fucked over deep into that rape. You gotta pay those advances back essentially a massive bank loan.
@kellyshenkerguitarlessons
@kellyshenkerguitarlessons 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t give up ... work hard ... be original ...
@NSDilly
@NSDilly 9 жыл бұрын
Soon. :)
@glowingstarmediaproduction9970
@glowingstarmediaproduction9970 Жыл бұрын
When signing a contract what is usually the offer amount? When you say support service what does that intel? Marketing and Advertising on a massive scale is what I want. And lastly, what is the best way to message and reach out? What actual Content should I send, and more. Thanks!
@Clutchhandla
@Clutchhandla 10 жыл бұрын
great advice
@theinternbook
@theinternbook 9 жыл бұрын
Clutch handla Glad you liked it. Check out Ben's video from XL Recordings (Adele's label)
@franciscootaloraii
@franciscootaloraii 8 жыл бұрын
very informative video.
@jazzlampy1019
@jazzlampy1019 10 жыл бұрын
Useful video
@theinternbook
@theinternbook 10 жыл бұрын
Glad it was of help. Will you be the next big artist or the next big music label guru? Keep us informed! :)
@MarionFiedlerMusic
@MarionFiedlerMusic 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the advice. Very true, and yes. It is like betting on a horse.
@kendallhoulder5139
@kendallhoulder5139 5 жыл бұрын
Solid
@jfmilone63
@jfmilone63 2 жыл бұрын
Well, whatever way you go about it, you better have a good voice, a good look and good written songs
@charlieleonardo
@charlieleonardo 7 жыл бұрын
do I like fast talkers?
@neetrab
@neetrab 10 жыл бұрын
Trying out for talent shows like "The Voice", "American Idol", "America's Got Talent", "X-Factor", and etc... that (TO ME) is the absolute SMARTEST and BEST way to get recognized. 1) You are saving tons of money (all you're doing is paying for hotel, travel, food, & whatever else). 2)You are being seen by millions and millions of people at one time than going venue to venue being seen by 20 people to a couple of hundred people day after day...etc. Those that have a problem with going on talent shows are jealous because they never had a talent show as BIG as those shows when THEY were starting out. Believe me, if they had something like these shows 20+ yrs ago, they would have been one of the first people in line to try out. Those are my thoughts, and I'm sticking to them..lol
@mythicalfair8130
@mythicalfair8130 10 жыл бұрын
You have to consider that a single initial audition for American Idol can draw thousands of people and you have to survive several cuts before you start appearing on TV. Plus shows like Idol are only looking for a specific age range. Certainly artists should submit to those shows, but not to look at them as a serious alternative to do the things this video is discussing.
@neetrab
@neetrab 10 жыл бұрын
Mythical Fair Well, if I'm traveling from New York to audition in Tennessee, I'm certainly taking it as a serious alternative. I understand what you're saying though. But hey, not all shows are looking for specific age ranges. Heck, look at Susan Boyle. She wasn't exactly 20 or good looking when she tried out for that Britain's Got Talent (or whatever show it was she auditioned on..lol). One thing she had was some serious talent. I think it goes without saying that you must be the best of the best, or you are definitely wasting your time. If you've got the "it" factor, you will most likely get at least in the top 10. That's why when you audition for those types of shows, I recommend that you are what you KNOW they are looking for. Not just going there with mediocre talent.
@neetrab
@neetrab 10 жыл бұрын
Mythical Fair Remember, I said that that's the BEST way to get noticed. I didn't say that was the ONLY way. Of course there are other options.
@ricflomusic
@ricflomusic 9 жыл бұрын
Informative, thank you.
@Klaymor6405
@Klaymor6405 7 жыл бұрын
Clear, concise; I love it. Thank you
@eggnogninja0
@eggnogninja0 8 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@giantpicsahd5950
@giantpicsahd5950 7 жыл бұрын
Good
@Heavy_Distortion
@Heavy_Distortion 6 жыл бұрын
4 years later Nick Gatfield reconsiders his long term career path.
@thema1998
@thema1998 4 жыл бұрын
Today is the *6* year anniversary of when this video was uploaded. 🤓 EDIT- 2:01 A.M.: *finishes video 9 minutes later* As much as I want to make it in the music industry, I wouldn't want to sign to a major label.
@AshRavens
@AshRavens 5 жыл бұрын
whoever did the camera work skipped 'focusing 101' classes
@CUBACHINA1986
@CUBACHINA1986 6 жыл бұрын
Wow.....never knew till now its very difficult
@spaceorbison
@spaceorbison 5 жыл бұрын
its not that difficult they just want to make you feel that way so that you think that you need them
@numenmusica6154
@numenmusica6154 6 жыл бұрын
way to destroy my dreams lol...(cryes internally)
@MGCThaKing
@MGCThaKing 4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, they only want you when you can make it yourself.
@realdeal4262
@realdeal4262 5 жыл бұрын
Don't send anything in "unselistic" I don't understand? Can somebody explain? Thanks
@makenolittleplanswithivonne
@makenolittleplanswithivonne 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Gatfield reminds me of John Hannah! Twins!
@ecgaming3866
@ecgaming3866 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a drummer and I'm very talented at that. The only problem nowadays is that Starting up to be a artist is harder on your own. Take KZbin as an example I could upload videos of me drumming and doing covers to songs but how do I get publicised and famous because that's the only way of really making money is having people demand music from you and then you can go on to tours albums but individually it's easier to do that as like a singer or rapper because there's much more character around that role.
@joakim2k10
@joakim2k10 7 жыл бұрын
Picking drums to be a solo artist would be even dumber 50 years ago. Just join as many bands as possibly and hope for the best.
@DrumWild
@DrumWild 7 жыл бұрын
Be young, very good looking, and have the ability to be popular.
@Leestevensmusic
@Leestevensmusic 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I would get signed. I know I can create really good music, but I don't know whether people would like me. All I need is a decent studio, someone to create the instrumentals I want, and promotion from a label, but whether people would like me and support me I'm not sure. Edit- I think I need a little education too.
@tuanisthename
@tuanisthename 6 жыл бұрын
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THOSE WHO KNOW! SOUL NOT FOR SALE.
@dylanloera6138
@dylanloera6138 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Audio
@blacknailsfortheopposition7547
@blacknailsfortheopposition7547 5 жыл бұрын
What is the instrumental at the intro?
@jeanjunkkari
@jeanjunkkari 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, ive been very busy working night shift and recording my music during the day, my songs are really good but I need help for perfection I'm alone.
@_-DS-_
@_-DS-_ 6 жыл бұрын
How depressing.
@Liveinconcert1
@Liveinconcert1 4 жыл бұрын
Dominic Smith mood
@tylergomez8448
@tylergomez8448 7 жыл бұрын
facts ! I needed this
@linwooddexter4642
@linwooddexter4642 4 жыл бұрын
Did kashew lew get signed?
@CharlieFBarassi
@CharlieFBarassi 6 жыл бұрын
so what happen with kesha ..sony ? what happen with michael jackson and tommy mottola(ex director of sony ent) sony ??
@NychoMusic
@NychoMusic 10 жыл бұрын
Good video, he seems like a smart guy.
@inteljordan8328
@inteljordan8328 6 жыл бұрын
Really great video.....very interesting!!!!!
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