Their Ignorance Ruined this RC Car!

[@TomleyRC]

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[@KyleKick909]

Dang, I missed the Audi rally car! I actually saw one on Sunday at a car show. It was the only picture that I took other than a picture of my scooter next to a Porsche Carrera GT.

[@michaeldorich4485]

This is a great example of why oil shocks are so important. As you ran it in a straight line it constantly bottomed out. As you said, it drove well even with the friction shocks.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I couldn’t believe how well it drove with such a bad set up!

[@wizard6916]

Klack klack klack

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Yeah, but Johnny "my first RC" 7 year old ain't gonna understand why oil filled shocks are important, and the manufacturer likely doesn't consider it to be a selling point or a useful bullet point on the box. They clearly show what market they're going for, where looking good on paper is the more important thing, because the car is made to dupe noobs. They put the 7 cents they save from friction shocks into a slightly larger motor, which gives them fancy higher numbers to put on the box, because "everyone" understands that 16 km/h is better than 15 km /h

[@ianjohnhorwood2605]

So in all an excellent basic platform to fit 3 essential upgrades . 1, oil shocks . 2, a heatsink , 3, a heatsink fan . It goes telepathically straighter than the bigger more expensive 10 scale RILAARLO offering 🤣🤣🤣 .

[@SammyP1979]

I can agree to that. I own a 917 and it is fast but driving a straight line a high speed without flying it hard to achieve.

[@cody41895]

A better ESC helps with heat a lot. Basically all the SG platforms like this run the same electronics. Mine over heated bad on the stock 2 in 1 ESC. Got a better 60amp ESC and receiver/transmitter and it’s been fine, also runs smother.

[@WoolstyRC]

The little childish giggle at end did it for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣👊🏼

[@TomleyRC]

🤣

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Even though this must be a rebadge from SG, this is obviously a SuChiYu rc car. SuChiYu cars in my opinion are one of the newer toughest quickest budget Rc’s being released. They definitely deserve some attention. It would be nice if they were a little less “cartoonish” and came with proper oil filled shocks like you said. All in all, if they at least installed oil filled shocks,made their cars rated for 3s, SuChiYu could be ranked up their with the likes of MJX, and Rlaarlo,. Until they do that, they won’t be taken too seriously. Awesome review Phil. A coffee and donut coming your way!☕️🍩 Well, I Tried buying you a coffee, but wtf! There’s not a link for it any more! 🤣

[@roadstar499]

Handling is one of the most sort after features and rc car people want..their cheap price makes it very upgradable for cheap...i do like the tx better then my mjx..it has dual rate steering which mjx does not...i am sure in the future they will make upgrades and changes...

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

@@roadstar499 yeah you’re right. That MJX controller doesn’t have many adjustments on it!

[@Pablo668]

The skipping around that thing did was reminiscent of my Hornet. And sorry, I did laugh when those lights started indicating.

[@TomleyRC]

😅.. I have to laugh now, my angry days are over

[@afrog2666]

Bro, on that surface anything will bounce, at least road cars.. the Hornet wasn`t all that bouncy was it? 🤔 been such a long time since I had one lol :p

[@Pablo668]

@@afrog2666 true enough, yeah I am exaggerating a bit, but only a bit. I guess I should say that MINE bounced a lot. I could never get those shocks to work.

[@PercysRc]

Ive just done a hornet video, skips around like mad😂

[@ianjohnhorwood2605]

some oil shocks fitted , and a heatsink and a fan , you have a have a total tire shredding winner on your hands here . Excellent straight line performance way better than the hopeless UDIRC BRUSHLESS PRO's straight line performance control .

[@TomleyRC]

Yes I agree.. but at $100 they have not done themselves any favours!

[@roadstar499]

​@@TomleyRCi agree with your review points,but being in this hobby for a very long time i still think this car is waaay better than those sg, uti 1/16 cars...all easy fixes imo,unlike that pos sg truck i paid $80 for 4 years ago...plastic gears,shity servo,smaller chassis,much slower,5 wire servo..but i appreciate the review..thanks😊

[@workingclassperson2124]

Yup!!

[@ianjohnhorwood2605]

ON BANGOOD there are two different branded models of this . The SCY 16307 PRO PHANTOM BRUSHLESS ( blue /orange or green /orange , and then the other is the ZLL SG918 with the choice of a brushed or brushless model and colour scheme .

[@dannyseville2543]

That clattering because of the shockers is really annoying 😂😂

[@TomleyRC]

Yes.. even more annoying recording it 😅😅

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Wait, who gave who a noisy shocker during the video? It was it the Spiderman villain named Shocker ?

[@rccrazy]

I wouldn't say having to do a $20 max shock upgrade has ruined it at all considering the low cost of them. This chassis has been one the best platforms for me for quite a while now.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, but would you pay $100 for something to have the suspension of a Walmart toy? If it was $60 then maybe it’s acceptable.

[@roadstar499]

​@@TomleyRCit has all metal gears,great chassis..only needs shock up grade..so yes...

[@rccrazy]

@TomleyRC the last brushless model with this chassis I got was the JJRC Q117 and it was $120Australian RRP and a set of shocks is about $20aud so in comparison to the many not so good ones on the market for the same price or more, for example the much loved MJX whatever(the super unstsble alloy chassis car still at $300aud some places) ABSOLUTELY YES I'll take one of these! Please remember this is only my opinion based on my own and my friends experiences, I know everyone's experiences and expectation are different but that's why I post videos aswell, just another reference for anyone looking for a cool RC. You are honest about how you feel as am I that's the main thing I guess.

[@roadstar499]

I just ordered aluminum upgrade shocks for sg 1603...do you think they will fit this model? I know chassis is different and slightly larger..thanks

[@rccrazy]

​@roadstar499 not sure if Phil was going to reply, apologies Phil if you were. But yes they both have similar size shocks so as long as the upgrades have the correct size holes in the shock ends for the screw thickness they should fit and work🤞

[@rustytoolman4912]

The aero fins in the back bumper area probably have a lot to do with how straight it runs. ? That platform has seen many bodies and tire setups and works well every time. I love it!

[@roadstar499]

I received my brushless version of this car yesterday...i absolutely love it...where i live its 95 degrees outside and on 2s it got a little warm after 10 mins of hard running,but not bad...on 3s volantex 1000 20c it was sick fast,yet very easy to drive..handles great and goes straight as an arrow at 40 mph...my road is nice compared to this one,so my chassis did not bounce at all..i added shock spacer to each wheel..brakes are fantastic and reverse is fast also..run times are long...i love being able to hit red button to start and shut off.tires are slight smaller then on my hyper go all road truck, i ordered hex adapters 8mm to 12mm...i also ordered aluminum oil shocks and heat sinks...i may install a fan for motor also..but on 2s extra cooling is not needed unless you drive like a maniac like shown here..the chassis is made with great plastic,has zero flex...All metal gears are every bit as nice as my hyper go 1/14 scale...i road it late last night up and down my street..lights are so cool...also this radio is the best rtr radio i have...i can adjust dual rates to make tight 2 foot circle or 8 foot and everything inbetween. GREAT CAR,I ALSO have sg 1/16 drift truck and that 1/16 porche from ZD racing...both of them are junk compared to this car...Also if rc tubers try to mod this car out for speed runs they all be well over 50 mph and i would not be surprised if it hit 100 plus..the key is a smooth road to go fast not a bumpy gravel pit...Happy Bashing! 😊

[@jayhow997]

Well you got to do it now , you have to fit oil shocks and run it again 😂.

[@johndoe920]

my thoughts exactly. If the shocks are the only thing holding it back. Well fitting proper shocks is probably the easiest upgrade ever.

[@PhilipCockram]

Good review . I have this car , but with a retro Morgan type body shell. I immediately put oil shocks on and it made it way better . It was 50% off on sale , I had the shocks already and for a lil driveway drifter it's fun and looks cool to have in the collection .

[@MCsCreations]

Phil, I have the Scy 16302. You reviewed it, looks like a 1930s Ford. I put oil shocks in it and it absolutely transformed! You also reviewed the Scy 16103 Pro, the Gantry Pro... It's the same chassis and it survived the skate park! 😂 So, try upgrading it! I bet it's going to be worth it!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@yourtubisfilled7164]

Seconded.

[@MCsCreations]

@yourtubisfilled7164 BTW, their original shocks are 50mm, but I put 55mm oil shocks. It helped even more, because the body stopped rubbing in the back part. 😊

[@cody41895]

He’s reviewed so many that are essentially the same exact chassis. But some are amazing and some are trash😂 they’re all literally the same. Just different suspension lengths in most. Although this one does look like it has different upper and lower control arms.

[@unloveableandre]

Not fair, this poor little guy was doing his best to keep up! Like in 7:27!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@roadstar499]

I finally ran mine with new surpass 2845 5900kv motor ,22t pinion with ool filled shocks...i lowered mine by adding silicone fuel line spacers inside my shocks...its fast on 2s around 40 mph..esc and motor get barely hot at all ..i also added heat sink on motor..no need for fans..if you go 3s fans would be a good idea..great car!😊

[@unloveableandre]

1:45 I love the frustration... no, really, that's what a real hobbyist that loves his job needs to do. Get frustrated with bad products! Thank you!

[@northwestmountainbikeaddic6874]

Sounds like a skateboard on a sidewalk with the scraping

[@GSG-lc5zm]

Actually... Yes, Yes it does 🤣

[@ohhi5237]

sounds like chinese newyear

[@martinhurst7372]

When a Lister Storm and a Porsche 917 have an affair, you get this baby body

[@ThatThrowAwayAccount-tz8ly]

There’s only one thing left to do, seeing how it’s such a good chassis put a bunch of power into it and then some oil shocks

[@roadstar499]

Yes, 55 plus on 3s easy imo...extremely good chassis...

[@poorboysrc]

This is funny, because the same company released another RC by the same name several months ago. I reviewed it on my channel. It's basically the exact same chassis, less the gigantic headlights, and wacky rear valance (and body, of course). But it's hilarious that both are called "the Beast", and they're completely different cars. 😅

[@GigaBit-i2j]

For that price it is an AMAZING rc car.

[@RinkaiKouen]

Finally someone with a bit of wisdom.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

​@@RinkaiKouendude, for 100 pounds you can get much better cars from at least 2 different brands just off the top of my head That car is a ripoff at that price. I'm not sure what you're comparing it to, maybe you own one and your butt hurts.

[@RinkaiKouen]

@@Boogie_the_cat dude, 100 pounds? The world is bigger than your hometown. Here it is like 70 usd.

[@DailyDarsh]

Surely test it with oil shocks custom😂

[@TomleyRC]

Well.. just seen a Banggood video from last month. Imagine if they did a video with oil shocks 😅

[@armandopace6113]

I got the Rlaarlo omni terminator RZ001B-C and nothing but trouble the motor pooped itself and the 1.5 screws are nothing but a joke I'veslowly putting 2mm screws. I've put a 120amp esc with 3650 3100kv motor and dumbo controller. My recommendation is just get the roller and put your own electronics. Great video mate 👍 👌 😂😂

[@TomleyRC]

Yes.. Rollers are always a better option if they are a good price

[@Gixie-R]

First Tamiya i brought had friction shocks, That was my first upgrade, a set of alloy body oil shocks that cost almost as much as the buggy. The difference was night n day.

[@rc_fundays]

When the body is off it reminds me of jonny5 from Short circuit haha

[@TomleyRC]

Yes haha… ‘need more input’ 😅

[@rc_fundays]

@@TomleyRC when you were showing the lights all I heard in my head was Jonny 5 is alive lol

[@MagnifiedGiant]

Your mama was snow blower!!!

[@shb8124]

Basically the blue and orange is supposed to be the Gulf livery and the red, white and blue the Martini livery. Both iconic liveries on the real 917s. Obviously I don't expect them to have licence to do the actual liveries accurately or that they'd be bothered when it isn't an accurate model anyway 🙂

[@TheRealBustinOne]

Wonder what size the shocks are. I'd like to get one but order shocks at the same time

I had my eye on this one for a while but I saw it at almost the same price (sometimes more expensive) as the mjx hypergo 14302 that I bought last month for less than 100 USD. I thought it was cool but I think there are more interesting things in this price range. Not many options but there are, I also think I prefer the udirc ud160x in their respective brushed and brushless versions.

[@disciplinerc]

I think my vid on this one will be titled 'My ignorance ruined this RC car!'....I think we know how it will already end 😅

[@Mr.Wednesday.]

Ol’ Tomo w another one, and another one. Proper decent show ol chap, quite good really 🫡

[@firstlast-yn4qg]

the massive aero body downforce negates the need for spring dampers

[@NJPATS]

Wonder if it could be upgraded to better motor and shocks

[@blakamin]

Calm down, Kevin... 🤣🤣🤣

[@TomleyRC]

Who?

[@barryriffle8076]

hey mate. just wanted to mention that your longer videos on more expensive videos are great. i dont mind the cheap cars. i still watch every one. but i really liked the style of the infraction stuff and the bigger better quality cars you do. also the racing stuff is fantastic. i just got into dirt oval racing the class is called mudboss stock. you should check and see if there are any oval tracks around you. the stock mudboss is supper affordable. being a traxxas slash 2wd. i got the new bl-2s one and it is very good. everyone being relatively the same is very fun.

[@unloveableandre]

7:40 We thought the same thing at the exact same time. No crash!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@AbbyRCToys]

Please help and suggest I am confused and unable to make decision between Felony Vs Infraction. Felony looks so awesome and tempting but has rear tires and different differentials whereas Infraction is same platform all rounder with okish looks. Please help whether I should go with Felony or infraction

[@Baker_7498]

infraction has equal size tyres and the handbrake but felony has the awesome muscle car look

[@TomleyRC]

Infraction would be my choice. (I've had both)

[@AbbyRCToys]

This is my 1st comment from Tom..You are a celebrity to me​@TomleyRC

[@ScaleRacingChannel]

Them: Would like a free car to test? You: Absolutely.

[@unloveableandre]

4:20 I must admit I saw that coming

[@paulleniger3575]

Sorry if you already answered this but where did you order this from? I found a couple places but not trusting a couple. Like to get the brushless version.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Well, it advertised "shock" and you actually got 4 shocks. That's a good deal. It exceeded MY expectations. I assumed you'd have to buy the other 3 shocks separately, like they were Traxxas 😂

[@jordanbuechler5143]

Don’t know if you’re much of a racer but it’d be cool for you to explore some well priced non mainstream race buggies/truggies etc at the track to see how they compare with the big boy kits!

[@MarkJohnMorris]

Please put a fan & heatsink on the motor and some small oil shocks, i reckon this will be amazing!

[@muskokamike127]

2:49 when you realize that it is chinglish translated to a 3d object, it all begins to make sense.

[@Moggmodels23]

Try and change the shocks to oil shocks 😲 might be better nice video Phil 😊😊

[@Jeeplee_rc]

Exactly how I feel about the sg1603 drift cars. Cheap. Fast. But the suspension completely ruins them.

[@chrisdean8235]

Other than the shocks this looks like a decent car for the price. I have the Gantry Pro and that thing is a beast, taken many hits and keeps on going, I cant say the same for my Rustler VXL.

[@roadstar499]

Well i found some heat sinks ..one designed really nice designed for a cooling fan and others are standard...i kinda would liked car body a bit more scale,but i still think it will be a winner..

[@tobydyes]

I think the Weirder they look, the cool they look

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, sometimes that’s true 👍

[@afrog2666]

OhoHOHOhoohooooo, that wasa hot motor :0 I remember back in the day of brushed cans, I legitimately use to cool down my Hornet with water.. Yeah I went through a few stock cans, then I went through brushes instead later on, but NOW with all the power on tap, the problem is not blowing up driveshafts and ripping tires off the rims 😂 Seriously, I tore up my steel driveshafts ON WET GRASS with my Rustler vxl 2WD, stock electronics, 3s, running on Talons. Sure they`re bigger than the stock tires, but still, it was wet grass... Still haven`t adjusted my slipper clutch hehe 😋

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

Can't wait to see what this does with oil shocks on!

[@mikellewis2346]

That was worth the laughter for shore!!

[@JustInvertedFpv]

That's some of the coarsest pavement I've seen! Big chunky rocks in it.

[@joonyoungie]

It's crazy how such a small car can be made to sound like a train going over rails just by giving it shitty suspension.

[@rc-dom-uk]

very amusing rc car . 10/10 for giggles that one . BEAST! RACING TO THE FUTURE!

[@madjh8]

This company has to be the same that makes the Conquer "some parts are the same), a 50 euros truck that is not very good but for the price ... not sure. For children around 6-7 years.

[@ianjohnhorwood2605]

only the brushless version has the all metal drive system , with no plastic nylon differential involved on the brushless version 😉

[@GSG-lc5zm]

I actually really like the cartoon/"baby" car look on this one... But it definitely needs oil shocks... Not like they don't have them this size already in stock 🤦

[@mikeeklund18]

great video!this car held up even on 3s!.mind me asking what tires you have on your ak-787 ?

[@michaelcain2174]

Such a shame , they could have had a little gem on their hands if they would have used better suspension. I mean how much is a set of oil shocks at that scale , next to nothing .

[@VcArena]

So how about upgrading the shocks and driving it again?

[@RCManiacs]

Looks like a cartoon version of the real thing

[@TheTankRC]

Looks good from far bur far from good. That little thing was thought. Great video

[@roadstar499]

I hope my 3s 1300 mah80c ovonics fit...after cooling and shock upgrades i think it will hit 40 plus mph for sure ..and temps much cooler...

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, certainly seems stable enough to take it

[@Sparroh]

I know nothing about drift cars, but this looked cool. I like it.

[@JonathanHenry-xy7or]

This is no where near adrift car.

[@chickenfist1554]

That thing looks like Wall-E and a knock-off Arrma Vendetta had a lovechild 😂

[@TomleyRC]

lol

[@henryfoster3212]

I got to meet is the coolest RC mini I seen in a long time thank you Tom👍 I agree the only downside is the shocks

[@GhostRyderFPV]

_"Inspired by"_ I was hoping it was going to be more of a "Fatty", with cartoon proportions like the box art. Too bad. Way to give it hell, Phil!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah.. I think I gave it a good test 😅

[@GhostRyderFPV]

@@TomleyRC I fired up the popcorn maker when you said _"I have good news"_ haha Guys, this is how reviews should be done!

[@wikyWargaming]

Omg that car is... something else.

[@WellingtonIronman]

People love to hate on Lewis, but I’ve never failed to be impressed with every interaction that I’ve seen him in.

[@ianjohnhorwood2605]

personally I'd go for the branded SCY 16307 PRO PHANTOM BRUSHLESS version in both choice colour schemes of blue /orange and green /orange 😉 .

[@chrisfr2286]

So now upgrade the suspension and a new set of tyres and let see how goes

[@austinkoeppen6122]

It might still have a gyro, a couple of my cheap RCs have a gyro that only comes on when the wheels are spinning.

[@TomleyRC]

I tried that.. no gyro 👍

[@mattm1841]

That chassis slap on the ground sounds like someone holding a GoPro underwater. I hate that sound lol😅

[@Raycefan]

So, let’s be honest, even with that super bouncy suspension, and the huge air it got, it still went pretty straight.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes.. so imagine how much better it would be with oil shocks!

[@Raycefan]

@@TomleyRC yeah, I’m thinking you should find some way to upgrade them, just for curiosity sake.

[@Metla666]

Not going to lie, Pretty cool.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes it is, shame they didn’t use common sense and had decent shocks!

[@Dimar.Siregar]

Mercedes F1 had this porpoising issue. 😄

[@ss-united-states-my-beloved]

Are there Mini jrx2 buggies in the UK yet?

[@ss-united-states-my-beloved]

It's my favorite buggy, and I want to see what you have to say about it!

[@ss-united-states-my-beloved]

Also, your lucky your suspension even works, I have an older Rlaarlo 1:16th scale model with suspension that barely even functions

[@BleezyMonkey]

its back looks like a decepticon

[@troymonroe9656]

Swap the shocks for oil filled.

[@mattinwinkymg]

Christ I hate friction dampers and the reason why is, they don't have any friction.

[@MrChubs89]

Completely random but how about a radio controlled child's ride on car??? I know you can buy them with little controlers but I'm thinking a @TomleyRC version in others words Fast, Offroad, Basher!

[@PercysRc]

That is pretty damn wicked👊

[@clutchkicker392ison5]

WoW, heard the expression 'whingin Pom'

[@thatsgottahurt]

1:40 "shock" lol

[@JamesDirtRC]

It's Like they ran it through a AI Cartoon Filter. Then 3d printed and then built it.

[@alexandergrubb111]

That is what that porsche actually looks like gotham garage built one for a customer it looks really cool 😎

[@BraydenWolframe]

Really reminds me of Mario kart with how it bounces along while turning 🤣.

[@scaleworksRC]

Well, at least it goes straight.. with or without tires 😆👍

[@JamesDirtRC]

Shock things would have tighten them up.

[@robhotson1882]

I would really like to see you put some cheap oil filled suspension in it and run it again just to see the run difference r Phil

[@roadstar499]

I think think its a homerun compared to twitchy slow sg brushed truck i bought 4 years ago that everyone including you said it was so great..this is the same price..drives 10 x better even on this nasty crappy road you are on..all i would do is find nice shocks and add a heat sink for 2s running..if i used 3s i would also install a fan on motor...i love this car it has a shit load of potential imo...its pretty much same speed as my mjx truck but with a better radio has dual and rates better range...thanks for sharing

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, but remember 4yrs ago we didn't have as much choice as we have now. And 4yrs ago you couldn't get an MJX monster truck for the same price as this, which is 10x better!

[@roadstar499]

I do appreciate your review since i ordered this car a few days ago...i also just ordered some sg 1603 alum upgrade shocks from bg only $12.80 shipped...i think they should work...could not find a heat sink and fan though...i think it should be fine on 2s anyway...thanks😊

[@SlowerIsFaster139]

Kid: Mom, I want a rlaarlo Mom: we have rlaarlo at home

[@jlo96f3]

Sounds like a skateboard

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@AllOrNoneR.C.]

Love it. Getting paid to watch Tomley fantastic. Great video thanks for a break in the monotony

[@TomleyRC]

You're welcome haha

[@ericbattley_og]

Upgrade video!!! seriously tho would love to see this thing with oil shocks and new better tires! Possibly a Tomley 2 video? Thanks for the great video anyway, Eric. :-)

[@butchmeister80]

Actually looks blooming good fun lol

[@vintagetamiya3593]

Biggest question is why didn’t you put some oil shocks on it

[@TomleyRC]

I reviewed it as it comes out the box :)

[@CK4RC]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't still curious to get one and try it out. I already added it to my BangGood wishlist.