holtzforma g372 pro first start! I'll build it for one of you!

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

I been dreaming about that saw. Glad your have one in your hands. I am on edge waiting to see your reactions to how it’s built. Something is telling me to start buying them.

[@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648]

I think I agree with you Billy, it sure is nice looking hope it runs good

[@jdm603jake]

Buy one and don't look back. I was on the fence back and forth for over a year, finally pulled the trigger and got my first orange 372 with a "rippa" dual port muffler the other day. Did some minor carb tuning on the first start, adjusted the bar oiler to match the 20" bar I put on it. Packaging is very good. The manual is great super detailed. Comes with tool kit and mixing can. I will DEFINITELY be buying many more soon!

[@benjaminaslapienis5837]

@@jdm603jake hey, how is the saw 10 months later?

[@ryanmaceachern2983]

I watch every single one of your videos I mean every single one buckin Billy Ray is how I even found out about the legendary iron Horsemen reminds me of my papa so much everyday the same time before I go to bed I always go and see if there's a new video up the inspiration you give me is a blessing that's how important it is stay healthy iron Horsemen you are very much needed in this world.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

I finally got my Holzfforma 372 from China and I am very impressed with it. The cylinder plating is great. Only thing I don't like with it is the transfer ports are really small and I don't have a right angle tool to make them any bigger. The rest of the parts are really nice. The cases are nice. It has that cheap handle but I got a full wrap oem handle so I don't care.

[@TheF1shh]

I got one about a year ago and it’s been great. I removed the base gasket, cleaned up the lower transfers, plugged the decomp and made a pipe for it. Now I have a hyway bigbore with pop up on my bench getting a little porting. The hyway transfers are noticeably bigger than the stock farmertec. And I got lucky with the carb on mine. It’s been flawless. I always keep a couple oem carbs in my ebay watch list just in case though.

[@garymcmullin2292]

interesting video, thank you! I just took delivery on an orange Holzfforma 372xp from and ebay seller. First thing I did was tear it down pretty much to test fastener torque and examine all the parts. I never even started it up first. Fasteners were good, only a couple of over tight bolts and that was worrying me because I saw a cylinder bolt break off when another YT channel did a disassembly. The one thing that bothered me is that there was a black/silvery awful look to the oil coating the internals. I cleaned thoroughly, rinsed out the crankcase numerous times with napthalene and blew it our then reoiled bearings. The piston was very scored on the intake port area, my guess is cylinder burrs on the intake port. I think it would still run ok but all that grit sure can't have done a good thing. I had a big bore Hyway kit on hand from Wolf Creek saw shop so I just did a swap right on the spot. I have an aftermarket crank too but looking at the crank in this saw it looked good, resisted a file on the rod and journals so I decided to just run this bugger and see how it goes. The rest of the saw is impressive, no flimsy crappy build, everything fits nicely and has a great looking finish, well refined. I did order an OEM bar adjuster because this Chinese unit is junk, turns very rough or not at all and I even disassembled, cleaned and greased it to try and help out. I replaced the impulse tube because it was really flimsy tubing that did not impress me as good for a long life. I also installed and OEM comp release and a genuine NGK plug because spark plug counter fitting over there is rampant. Lastly I drilled out the exhaust port and brazed in a piece of 1/2 inch emt tubing, more than twice the area for exhaust flow now. I waited a long time, just could not trust that it would be money well spent. I am a believer at this point, well see how the saw actually works now, that will take some time to establish the true level of durability and quality but I am very optimistic at this point.

[@codyasbury2733]

Hey harve from western Montana. Im workin on a 041AV right now and lovin your videos. Keep em comin bud and appreciate the advice and tips and tricks

[@andrewtrembly3884]

I bought a farm Mac f380w as a get by chainsaw when my Stihl 038 av went down. I was really impressed by it love your channel.

[@urbanlumberjack]

These saws are great. I have used my g660 for chainsaw milling on a 36 inch holzzforma bar. Both are great. It cuts like a dream. I have very much enjoyed using it

[@benjaminaslapienis5837]

how is it now?

[@johnclarke6647]

I built a Farmertec 372 XP kit two years ago for my 50th anniversary gift to my self. 🤪. I have not had a lick of problems with it. It starts easy and runs good. Mine had an Italian piston and cylinder in it, which is what it came with. I did add the tall air filter and cover (XT) to it, but that was it. I did put an original Walbro carb on it. I run it with my standard Stihl Ultra 50:1 mix in it with no problems. I do run 84 ml per gallon of Stihl Ultra which is a 45:1 mix ratio.

[@felixbinette9752]

That holtzforma build will change things up a bit. Good idea. Just got a 268 out of South Carolina on a bid on ebay said it didn't run played with it a bunch little things were missing. Oilers acting up got a new one . It's pulling a 32 and likes it. Hungry bugger. Thanks for what you do. Between you and tinman I never did anything like this. Thank you again

[@davidschwandt9741]

Glad to hear yoi use Amsoil Saber. I’ve been using it fo years and love it

[@paultheisen5290]

Paul from Iowa, just ordered one this weekend, should be here Friday, can't wait, Thanks ironhorse, stay safe and Healthy. God bless you and your Family

[@frankz1125]

I just had my G288 in wood yesterday. Its not bad. Im happy so far

[@DaveJohnsonad5nm]

Harvey, I have a couple older Farmertec saws that I have run the begeebees out of. I have 32" bars on both with CJ chains. Many of the trees I fall are 20" to 48". The only issue I've had with either saw was the junk Chinese carbs. Both are 372's and they run and cut every bit as good as my Husqvarnas. Weather they will last as long or not is doubtful but it's a $300 saw. This will be their 3rd cutting season so they have already paid themselves off and still kicking.

[@ferrallderrall6588]

Nice to hear ,ya the bar and chain cost more than the saw?

[@littlemechanicshop]

That’s a good saw I like it. These pros are a big improvement. If you need parts for those saw get a hold of Rocky Mountain chainsaws. We was just talking about how you have been working on these saws for a long time. We like your channel.

[@zachgordon9531]

I appreciate you showing this, I would love to have a ironhorse saw. I wish we made an American saw, I understand if it's all you can afford. I personally wish we would quit importing from China all together.

[@paultheisen5290]

I agree with the importing Zach

[@davidwatt1399]

Hello ironhorse from Australia have been watching your channel since you started and find your content very interesting it’s really hard to find anyone here to the kind of work you do Cheers

[@GCL61]

That is a good looking saw. Don't know anything about them but darn it sure does look like it would cut a bunch of wood. I 🔥

[@Bsetzd]

I got g365xp. An the g372xp. Iv probably cut 20 cords. With them only problem I had with both was fule coming out if the breather . I fixed it. by putting the oem 372xp x torque. Fule vent in the tank problem fixed.

[@joesalazar770]

Oh a bit of my background retired mostly still love tinkering. With motors. My grandfather taught me all I know about logging tree felling bucking cranes cat d 8 dozers truck driving and lots of usefully things. I learned on my own how to build engines transmissions exc. As well as working on my own saws. I know use my saws for competitions firewood and just ordonarythings. But there nothing like a soupedup sawto cut up a tree in four hours. Makes it so much easier. To uses light small saw than a big heavy saw like the old magnum 888 my grandpa also had the old two man saw hand as well as his own homebuilt version of a lawnmower chainsaw man at both ends we used for cutting the huge trees. I think it was an old Kohler motor that he built on a platform with chain and it was clutched and I believe it was like a 15 horse motor. But anyway it was plenty heavy to say the least. It did the job though. Hope to meet up someday.

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

Love it Ironhorse. Those are some sweet lookin saws. Definitely stand out. Can't wait to see you tear into that carb to see if is actually a Walbro and you opinion on the saw as a whole when you tear it apart. Love ya Buddy. 🌲❤🌲👊🪓

[@307j.o.a.t9]

Thats a cool looking saw!! Great to see ya!

[@JMGeranimo]

The 660 pro is 450 right now on Amazon, it's a third of a 395xp etc. I planned on one in a year or so , after a ea 7900, I might have to jump on this. Great video , thank you.

[@justinweaver8787]

Gonna be a great saw with u building it id put it in the timber an not think twice of it i know with ur knowledge of what parts to swap out it will hold up remarkably well as a falln saw. Hope u are well an have a good weekend!

[@jasonthomas8770]

I’m excited to see you build this up. I have a 440 kit that I plan to put together next month after my good luck with the 660 kit. Planning to port both of them with advice from this channel after another year of firewood cutting to see where they both stand.

[@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648]

Sure is a nice looking saw, would love to see it cutting

[@theironhorse6600]

Great idea!

[@MrDmmeeks]

Bought a 660 about a year ago. Only thing I've done is the chain tensioner. For the price I can't complain. Originally bought as a learning tool for porting. Given how it runs, I'm going till in needs to be rebuilt. Couldn't justify oem price for what I'm doing. Currently used for firewood and milling.

[@benbradshawjr2856]

Echo and husky with that air filter setup is the best in my opinion..

[@Saw_Squatch]

I'd absolutely love to hear about the numbers you end up using on that big bore/pop-up build, can't wait to follow this saw build! I got my own 2171 build getting the same treatment and I would love a starting off point

[@mackenziesibley7025]

That's awsome your gonna do a build for a subscriber harvey from what I've seen that version has most of the kinks ironed out

[@wompwomp9]

I run Amsoil saber also. I could be wrong but, I really feel like useing it is the only reason my top handle diden't explode while I was modifying and learning how to tune that thing. No idea what i was doing and running it way way way too lean.

[@mikemitchell9157]

I'd love for you to see my old 372xp. Its stamped 99 and never been worked on and I still pull a 32 inch bar. Just a home gamer but I still do a decent amount of trees on and off the property

[@CharlesBrisco]

Looks sweet

[@SuperJunior1030]

I just found your show and I am totally amazed. As an engineer, I want to learn from your experience and wisdom.

[@theironhorse6600]

Welcome aboard!

[@jeffgrier8488]

That's a cool looking saw, i can't wait to see what you do with it. I'd definitely ad it to my arsenal after you worked on it!

[@hugogarcia3193]

Just starting tree business. And saws are expensive..great to hear 👂 that .great viedo

[@russellnorton9940]

i live in canada near vancouver bc, im a west coast faller. i really really like your shows and your knowledge, im always in a great mood after i watch your shows, im unique i guess cause i still prefer and use husky 2100s. anyways i hope u can build one of my saws up for me

[@stuartramage5933]

awesome sounds ok . peace an love from scotland stu an family

[@jfitz9624]

Someone may have already mentioned this Harvey but this is the new pro version. Walbro carb, metor piston caber rings, Italy tech cylinder, ngk plug. Lot of good upgrades. You should use every that came with it so we can see how that lasts. I definitely wouldn’t bother swapping the crank.

[@stevenlaxton3618]

That'd sure help getting wood for grandpa this year...bugger decided to retire way outta town so we gotta deliver 😜 hahaha

[@hattersequiptmentrepairllc4661]

Man that is a good looking saw

[@limestonecowboy9219]

I just ordered one of those in the g660 pro model to run a 36" bar on a chainsaw mill. Hopefully it works out well.

[@danielsmith-ze3wy]

Hows it holding up

[@rustyshank912]

Maybe I should buy their version of the 461. My brother hauled load 17 of logs yesterday and saw the road was posted so no more hauling for awhile. Next week will be warmer so probably done in the woods soon anyway. On the 8.3 Cummins swap still wonder if we should test run the engine before installing into the L8000

[@hoskinslogging9858]

That thing looks sweet

[@crazyfarmer2564]

I have the g660 for a few years now. The handle and fuel cap has been the only things that have broken on it. I keep a 32in bar on it. I think it took 6 or 7 pulls to get it running the 1st time. After that usually the 2nd pull it's running.

[@JS-xp9ww]

Thanks for the video content. You're my new favorite old pirate.. 😂

[@SOHN32]

7 pulls ah ah ah . Been thinking abt getting one myself. Got one other one got get taken care of had built first. Hopefully get to building some myself some day.

[@shawncourville487]

I want it nice looking ! I haven't had a brand new saw since I was 12

[@nathanpanter4625]

For being a knock off that saw doesn’t look half bad. Love the vids!!!

[@mfsaws8240]

That’s a good lookin saw!

[@Farm_Boy77]

It may be a walbro carb but not oem quality. I ordered one of the farmertec walbro carb for my g660 the unbranded carb that came with the saw worked better. I have done 2 g372xp blue saws since Christmas did a hyway big bore on one and new west big bore on the other both ported with a ironhorse style muffler. Running 8t sprocket and 24" bars. Both saws are beasts in the cut and so far have been 100% reliable. The big bore ported g660 I did is a beast now I am waiting on a g288 to arrive for the same treatment.

[@floydbeard5073]

Amsoil is good oil. I like run the Lucas 2 cycle oil.

[@mattmaughan2539]

Great looking saw! I’d love to own a monster like that!

[@antoniomorgado5304]

Nice lookin saw!!!!

[@eastcoastozzy2884]

Nice looking saw, been thinking about getting one so I look forward to your analysis 🧐

[@stevengamsby5344]

I’ve been using Amsoil 2cycle for over 30 years falling in the west Coast on big Douglas firs pine Blackhawk never have I had a problem my other oil that I have used for the same 30 years when I couldn’t get Amsoil because they were out of stock I’d use optimal2 which I love also

[@kingsaws]

I knew I'd see one of these on your channel soon

[@stephenbonawitz2751]

I would like also to see a neo tech saw on your shop

[@mikahakkinen5651]

its going be intresting follow this build

[@jmudd5449]

This is the saw I need and want. I have a Pollaun 40cc and it's just not enough.

[@ericholbrook3062]

Brother Ironhorse , just sent that beauty on down here to Virginia and I'll work it like Bucking work an axe , been trying to get up with you to have you do some work for me

[@jasonking4835]

Hey Harvey what do you think of the neotec saws on Amazon I see they are coming out with a 372 also, they are orange and dark gray sharp looking unit

[@codylapoint]

I bought the 066 pro version but it's coming the whole way from Taiwan or wherever via donky and dolphin I guess because it's been 5 weeks and I still haven't seen it yet.

[@shawncourville487]

I have a Husqvarna 365 special , I Love it it's very fast !!

[@darrelljohnson4658]

I will buy that saw sawrus Trees-R-Us Oregon

[@jayteaters1727]

Hey Harvey how are you doing hope everyone is doing well that shure is a good looking clone something with potential when you do your thing to it

[@mattsfirewoodvideos738]

That's gonna be a runner when he's done with it

[@curtisnimmo2188]

I've been wanting to buy one of those but wanted an honest and professional opinion before I did. Now I've got it from this video. If you want to sale it, let me know where to send the money to.

[@doodeeman1304]

Awesome saw man!!!!!

[@Man-Time]

Looking forward to this build. Very good analysis on the high prices of beat up eBay saws. I’d much prefer to work on a new saw that needs a few upgrades vs a junk saw that needs everything. But I’ll choose the cheaper option all day. Maybe that’s the g372 pro?

[@theironhorse6600]

It sure is!

[@kylepaluzzi4176]

makes me want to give you my 888 with one start on it to make a nice work saw out of lol

[@dannymcelyea2596]

Hello there Ironhorse! Nice to meet ya Buckin sent me over!

[@Ketis1985]

Harvey, i believe those things have legit Walbro carburetors since Walbro has factory in Tianjin in PRC(China) and manual said Tianjin Walbro carburetor. Im getting one of those g372pro soon to see how good they are.

[@adamfurin9933]

Iron horse! I’d love to buy this saw once you’ve finished! I’m not sure where to find your email, so I figured I’d try here. This would be a perfect machine to use here in Maine.

[@timbarden4578]

I ve had a long week in the woods.coil on 2188 shit the bed.mud to our knees..I'm more into 90 cc saws..maybe someday you can build me a big saw..lol...😎😎💪💪

[@theironhorse6600]

That I can do Tim!

[@timbarden4578]

@@theironhorse6600 your the best brother..

[@docrw]

I can tell that the carb is NOT Walbro and the plug isn't NGK, and I'm 99% sure the cylinder, piston, and rings are also NOT. I know

[@johnfurey6569]

How are the Chinese Neo-TEC NS- 892 or it’s also called the G660 stihl knock off ?

[@230e4]

The prices for saws and everything has gotten way out of hand. Some of the prices on ebay are totally ridiculous, but with supply and demand for the old work horses being what it is folks are paying the price, I suspect many will end up with buyers remorse. I know I have watched several saws on ebay that were relisted multiple times after they were sold at a high price, including one supposed excellent running OE 372 that I purchased and returned to the seller with a bad oem cylinder and lots of chinesium, but he was an honest seller?Buyer beware! If we as consumers stop being so willing to pay the current prices they will go down right? Curios to hear your thoughts on this saw after tear down. I would really like to see a real comparison on these verses oem with a hardness tester used on the crank, cylinder, piston, cases and such. Time will tell how well the plastic holds up, I have seen the blue g372 plastic glue itself together with one day in the northern PA sun and need a heavy hand with a chisel or screw driver to separate the parts. Maybe I am throwing out sparks here, I see a sticker on the tank handle is that saw EPA compliant in the USA?

[@sixoh_diesel5662]

I might just pick one up off Amazon, be worth the risk considering you could buy 2 or 3 for the price that a 372 will cost you, hell even the redmax GZ7100 is damn near double the cost. I'd have to also order a can of Husqavarna Orange spray paint though, not a fan of fake carbon fiber. I'm nowhere near a logger still a weekend warrior but I have the redmax gz5000 and a 455 rancher that are not quite powerful enough for my 3 acres of southern yellow pine...

[@theironhorse6600]

You can get it in orange!

[@jdspencer4297]

I've got the 372xp 2 years ago and the only problem has been a carb

[@evankibbe590]

Nice 👌 👋 👌

[@MitchellsBackyardLogging]

I sent an email dont know if u received it but would definitely buy a ported saw from u know what makes them go so you could build it however i just need a work saw though i have had problems with the on kit saws

[@dereksheaffer608]

Ive been looking at the new hydra dipped, im definitely in the market to get one..

[@benbradshawjr2856]

The original handle sucked on the 372.maybe my hands are too big but i use electrical rubber insulating tape on my handles to give me more grip..i use it on quite a few saws i use.

[@jacobnelson9144]

Pretty sure everyone would like to have an ironhorse saw.

[@travisweldmaster7815]

Heck yeah sounds like a deal!

[@theironhorse6600]

Travis!

[@travisweldmaster7815]

UNCLE HARVE!, I saw them on their sight there all polished up fancy lol, I cant believe the bottom end is holding in mine, hyway jug(bb) and pop up, caber, ported right it decent like...opened that little tiny exit hole it's a runner but I didn't touch the bottom and that was couple years ago now

[@darrellepickering8433]

Poulan model 50/20 have problems with their fuel lines. They use a grommet in the bottom of the air box for the fuel line. 9 out of 10 times it'll deteriorate causing a leak especially if turned on it's side. You can't get just that grommet now. What you will get are fuel lines, filter, primer & carb. They seem to be a decent cheap saw. As for these knock-off saws I won't work on 'em. As you said there was a lot to fail on 'em at 1st & altho they may be better now I've not changed my mind. I've worked on saws for nigh 60 years & I think knock-offs don't need to be in my shop. Just stating an opinion.

[@jackpinesavageadventures3142]

👍

[@mm88swrt]

I'm waiting for it to be a kit. I want to assemble it....

[@ericnicol2616]

I keep thinking I wanna get one of those. I’m not sure how long it would stay stock but they do look pretty cool.

[@taskbig7664]

👍👍👍👍

[@darkcloud885]

Nice looking saw although I prefer orange or blue myself. I was torn between this and the ms660 so I got the 660 for the extra ccs to run 32" bar. I put meteor piston and caber rings in it. Was a little worried about the circlips that came with the meteor piston with the big double ears on them. They were easy to put in with snap ring pliers but I'm a little worried they might fly out of there. Any thoughts on those circlips? Also the meteor piston was 94 or 95g vs 85 or so for the farmertec. I remember what you said about the piston weight but felt like the meteor one was machined a little better, maybe stronger metal? The 660 runs great it was rich as all get out spewing oil out of the muffler which had me worried until I got it buried into some big oak it cleaned up just some soot after that. Started around 32:1 going 40:1 next gallon I mix up. Thanks for posting.

[@DaveyBlue32]

Sounds like you are doing great buddy! The quality of the Meteor piston definitely is worth that little additional weight…it’s still a shag lighter then the OEM piston! The quality of material is definitely worth a little bit of additional weight. Sounds like you have been doing your homework! 40:1 is good if you run an hour at a time if you are really going at it for a couple hours at a time that little bit more of 32:1 like if you are milling a log into boards or slabs is really worth the additional oil. Remember that you only have a chain speed of 11k tops! I keep my saw’s tuned with no load at 11,800 or right at 12k… they are really rich! I’ll check my muffler port window in 6 months or a year… spinning super high rpm’s it’s needed the way I cut… keep your chain razor sharp…touching up when you need more fuel is way better than killing a chain and running it until it’s super dull… keep your fins blown off and clean and tap out your air filter after you run it all day… cleanliness makes saw’s live a long time… go around it on a rain day and retighten every single bolt… even if you need to pop your clutch to torque your case bolts…over it’s first year it’ll loosen some up…if you find one loose you want some blue lock tight on that one going back down to snug… 👍😁

[@playingwivwood]

Heck yeah totally agree holzfforma are the best for gearheads. Much cheaper to get and like you said you can build it to what you want and ive had really really good luck with there cylinders. Honestly seems to be stronger then hyway witch is kinda depressing for the price difference 😂

[@dentondunn4346]

I’m thinking of buying one of those myself. They seem to be decent saws

[@shawncourville487]

I was running an old home l 650 it's was huge only 24 in bar but it was giger than vw

[@tomyousch7070]

I’d really love to have a holzforma 272 or288 built. By you with some improved parts for longevity and working saw performance. Please let me know how to qualify or price if we go that route. Thank you

[@WarningHumanity]

I just bought one 👍

[@zakksrage]

449$ is a interesting price point for chineisum

[@lucaslounsbury8515]

Waldron has factories in us. China Thailand Japan and Mexico.

[@garybennett3044]

Iron bourse can I just do a base gasket delete without checking the top of piston and top of cylinder I think it called squash it’s a brand new Holzfforma g372xp pro