I been dreaming about that saw. Glad your have one in your hands. I am on edge waiting to see your reactions to how it’s built. Something is telling me to start buying them.
@michaelwhiteoldtimer76482 жыл бұрын
I think I agree with you Billy, it sure is nice looking hope it runs good
@jdm603jake2 жыл бұрын
Buy one and don't look back. I was on the fence back and forth for over a year, finally pulled the trigger and got my first orange 372 with a "rippa" dual port muffler the other day. Did some minor carb tuning on the first start, adjusted the bar oiler to match the 20" bar I put on it. Packaging is very good. The manual is great super detailed. Comes with tool kit and mixing can. I will DEFINITELY be buying many more soon!
@benjaminaslapienis5837 Жыл бұрын
@@jdm603jake hey, how is the saw 10 months later?
@ryanmaceachern29832 жыл бұрын
I watch every single one of your videos I mean every single one buckin Billy Ray is how I even found out about the legendary iron Horsemen reminds me of my papa so much everyday the same time before I go to bed I always go and see if there's a new video up the inspiration you give me is a blessing that's how important it is stay healthy iron Horsemen you are very much needed in this world.
@bigfootandbananaman47462 жыл бұрын
I finally got my Holzfforma 372 from China and I am very impressed with it. The cylinder plating is great. Only thing I don't like with it is the transfer ports are really small and I don't have a right angle tool to make them any bigger. The rest of the parts are really nice. The cases are nice. It has that cheap handle but I got a full wrap oem handle so I don't care.
@TheF1shh2 жыл бұрын
I got one about a year ago and it’s been great. I removed the base gasket, cleaned up the lower transfers, plugged the decomp and made a pipe for it. Now I have a hyway bigbore with pop up on my bench getting a little porting. The hyway transfers are noticeably bigger than the stock farmertec. And I got lucky with the carb on mine. It’s been flawless. I always keep a couple oem carbs in my ebay watch list just in case though.
@garymcmullin2292 Жыл бұрын
interesting video, thank you! I just took delivery on an orange Holzfforma 372xp from and ebay seller. First thing I did was tear it down pretty much to test fastener torque and examine all the parts. I never even started it up first. Fasteners were good, only a couple of over tight bolts and that was worrying me because I saw a cylinder bolt break off when another YT channel did a disassembly. The one thing that bothered me is that there was a black/silvery awful look to the oil coating the internals. I cleaned thoroughly, rinsed out the crankcase numerous times with napthalene and blew it our then reoiled bearings. The piston was very scored on the intake port area, my guess is cylinder burrs on the intake port. I think it would still run ok but all that grit sure can't have done a good thing. I had a big bore Hyway kit on hand from Wolf Creek saw shop so I just did a swap right on the spot. I have an aftermarket crank too but looking at the crank in this saw it looked good, resisted a file on the rod and journals so I decided to just run this bugger and see how it goes. The rest of the saw is impressive, no flimsy crappy build, everything fits nicely and has a great looking finish, well refined. I did order an OEM bar adjuster because this Chinese unit is junk, turns very rough or not at all and I even disassembled, cleaned and greased it to try and help out. I replaced the impulse tube because it was really flimsy tubing that did not impress me as good for a long life. I also installed and OEM comp release and a genuine NGK plug because spark plug counter fitting over there is rampant. Lastly I drilled out the exhaust port and brazed in a piece of 1/2 inch emt tubing, more than twice the area for exhaust flow now. I waited a long time, just could not trust that it would be money well spent. I am a believer at this point, well see how the saw actually works now, that will take some time to establish the true level of durability and quality but I am very optimistic at this point.
@codyasbury27332 жыл бұрын
Hey harve from western Montana. Im workin on a 041AV right now and lovin your videos. Keep em comin bud and appreciate the advice and tips and tricks
@andrewtrembly38845 ай бұрын
I bought a farm Mac f380w as a get by chainsaw when my Stihl 038 av went down. I was really impressed by it love your channel.
@urbanlumberjack2 жыл бұрын
These saws are great. I have used my g660 for chainsaw milling on a 36 inch holzzforma bar. Both are great. It cuts like a dream. I have very much enjoyed using it
@benjaminaslapienis5837 Жыл бұрын
how is it now?
@johnclarke6647 Жыл бұрын
I built a Farmertec 372 XP kit two years ago for my 50th anniversary gift to my self. 🤪. I have not had a lick of problems with it. It starts easy and runs good. Mine had an Italian piston and cylinder in it, which is what it came with. I did add the tall air filter and cover (XT) to it, but that was it. I did put an original Walbro carb on it. I run it with my standard Stihl Ultra 50:1 mix in it with no problems. I do run 84 ml per gallon of Stihl Ultra which is a 45:1 mix ratio.
@felixbinette97522 жыл бұрын
That holtzforma build will change things up a bit. Good idea. Just got a 268 out of South Carolina on a bid on ebay said it didn't run played with it a bunch little things were missing. Oilers acting up got a new one . It's pulling a 32 and likes it. Hungry bugger. Thanks for what you do. Between you and tinman I never did anything like this. Thank you again
@davidschwandt97412 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear yoi use Amsoil Saber. I’ve been using it fo years and love it
@paultheisen5290 Жыл бұрын
Paul from Iowa, just ordered one this weekend, should be here Friday, can't wait, Thanks ironhorse, stay safe and Healthy. God bless you and your Family
@frankz11252 жыл бұрын
I just had my G288 in wood yesterday. Its not bad. Im happy so far
@DaveJohnsonad5nm2 жыл бұрын
Harvey, I have a couple older Farmertec saws that I have run the begeebees out of. I have 32" bars on both with CJ chains. Many of the trees I fall are 20" to 48". The only issue I've had with either saw was the junk Chinese carbs. Both are 372's and they run and cut every bit as good as my Husqvarnas. Weather they will last as long or not is doubtful but it's a $300 saw. This will be their 3rd cutting season so they have already paid themselves off and still kicking.
@ferrallderrall65882 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear ,ya the bar and chain cost more than the saw?
@littlemechanicshop2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good saw I like it. These pros are a big improvement. If you need parts for those saw get a hold of Rocky Mountain chainsaws. We was just talking about how you have been working on these saws for a long time. We like your channel.
@zachgordon95312 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you showing this, I would love to have a ironhorse saw. I wish we made an American saw, I understand if it's all you can afford. I personally wish we would quit importing from China all together.
@paultheisen5290 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the importing Zach
@davidwatt13992 жыл бұрын
Hello ironhorse from Australia have been watching your channel since you started and find your content very interesting it’s really hard to find anyone here to the kind of work you do Cheers
@GCL612 жыл бұрын
That is a good looking saw. Don't know anything about them but darn it sure does look like it would cut a bunch of wood. I 🔥
@Bsetzd2 жыл бұрын
I got g365xp. An the g372xp. Iv probably cut 20 cords. With them only problem I had with both was fule coming out if the breather . I fixed it. by putting the oem 372xp x torque. Fule vent in the tank problem fixed.
@joesalazar770 Жыл бұрын
Oh a bit of my background retired mostly still love tinkering. With motors. My grandfather taught me all I know about logging tree felling bucking cranes cat d 8 dozers truck driving and lots of usefully things. I learned on my own how to build engines transmissions exc. As well as working on my own saws. I know use my saws for competitions firewood and just ordonarythings. But there nothing like a soupedup sawto cut up a tree in four hours. Makes it so much easier. To uses light small saw than a big heavy saw like the old magnum 888 my grandpa also had the old two man saw hand as well as his own homebuilt version of a lawnmower chainsaw man at both ends we used for cutting the huge trees. I think it was an old Kohler motor that he built on a platform with chain and it was clutched and I believe it was like a 15 horse motor. But anyway it was plenty heavy to say the least. It did the job though. Hope to meet up someday.
@tazman-kennyfuller2 жыл бұрын
Love it Ironhorse. Those are some sweet lookin saws. Definitely stand out. Can't wait to see you tear into that carb to see if is actually a Walbro and you opinion on the saw as a whole when you tear it apart. Love ya Buddy. 🌲❤🌲👊🪓
@307j.o.a.t92 жыл бұрын
Thats a cool looking saw!! Great to see ya!
@JMGeranimo2 жыл бұрын
The 660 pro is 450 right now on Amazon, it's a third of a 395xp etc. I planned on one in a year or so , after a ea 7900, I might have to jump on this. Great video , thank you.
@justinweaver87872 жыл бұрын
Gonna be a great saw with u building it id put it in the timber an not think twice of it i know with ur knowledge of what parts to swap out it will hold up remarkably well as a falln saw. Hope u are well an have a good weekend!
@jasonthomas87702 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to see you build this up. I have a 440 kit that I plan to put together next month after my good luck with the 660 kit. Planning to port both of them with advice from this channel after another year of firewood cutting to see where they both stand.
@michaelwhiteoldtimer76482 жыл бұрын
Sure is a nice looking saw, would love to see it cutting
@theironhorse66002 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@MrDmmeeks2 жыл бұрын
Bought a 660 about a year ago. Only thing I've done is the chain tensioner. For the price I can't complain. Originally bought as a learning tool for porting. Given how it runs, I'm going till in needs to be rebuilt. Couldn't justify oem price for what I'm doing. Currently used for firewood and milling.
@benbradshawjr28562 жыл бұрын
Echo and husky with that air filter setup is the best in my opinion..
@Saw_Squatch2 жыл бұрын
I'd absolutely love to hear about the numbers you end up using on that big bore/pop-up build, can't wait to follow this saw build! I got my own 2171 build getting the same treatment and I would love a starting off point
@mackenziesibley70252 жыл бұрын
That's awsome your gonna do a build for a subscriber harvey from what I've seen that version has most of the kinks ironed out
@wompwomp92 жыл бұрын
I run Amsoil saber also. I could be wrong but, I really feel like useing it is the only reason my top handle diden't explode while I was modifying and learning how to tune that thing. No idea what i was doing and running it way way way too lean.
@mikemitchell91572 жыл бұрын
I'd love for you to see my old 372xp. Its stamped 99 and never been worked on and I still pull a 32 inch bar. Just a home gamer but I still do a decent amount of trees on and off the property
@CharlesBrisco2 жыл бұрын
Looks sweet
@SuperJunior1030 Жыл бұрын
I just found your show and I am totally amazed. As an engineer, I want to learn from your experience and wisdom.
@theironhorse6600 Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@jeffgrier84882 жыл бұрын
That's a cool looking saw, i can't wait to see what you do with it. I'd definitely ad it to my arsenal after you worked on it!
@hugogarcia31932 жыл бұрын
Just starting tree business. And saws are expensive..great to hear 👂 that .great viedo
@russellnorton99402 жыл бұрын
i live in canada near vancouver bc, im a west coast faller. i really really like your shows and your knowledge, im always in a great mood after i watch your shows, im unique i guess cause i still prefer and use husky 2100s. anyways i hope u can build one of my saws up for me
@stuartramage59332 жыл бұрын
awesome sounds ok . peace an love from scotland stu an family
@jfitz96242 жыл бұрын
Someone may have already mentioned this Harvey but this is the new pro version. Walbro carb, metor piston caber rings, Italy tech cylinder, ngk plug. Lot of good upgrades. You should use every that came with it so we can see how that lasts. I definitely wouldn’t bother swapping the crank.
@stevenlaxton36182 жыл бұрын
That'd sure help getting wood for grandpa this year...bugger decided to retire way outta town so we gotta deliver 😜 hahaha
@hattersequiptmentrepairllc46612 жыл бұрын
Man that is a good looking saw
@limestonecowboy92192 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one of those in the g660 pro model to run a 36" bar on a chainsaw mill. Hopefully it works out well.
@danielsmith-ze3wy Жыл бұрын
Hows it holding up
@rustyshank9122 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should buy their version of the 461. My brother hauled load 17 of logs yesterday and saw the road was posted so no more hauling for awhile. Next week will be warmer so probably done in the woods soon anyway. On the 8.3 Cummins swap still wonder if we should test run the engine before installing into the L8000
@hoskinslogging98582 жыл бұрын
That thing looks sweet
@crazyfarmer25642 жыл бұрын
I have the g660 for a few years now. The handle and fuel cap has been the only things that have broken on it. I keep a 32in bar on it. I think it took 6 or 7 pulls to get it running the 1st time. After that usually the 2nd pull it's running.
@JS-xp9ww2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video content. You're my new favorite old pirate.. 😂
@SOHN322 жыл бұрын
7 pulls ah ah ah . Been thinking abt getting one myself. Got one other one got get taken care of had built first. Hopefully get to building some myself some day.
@shawncourville4872 жыл бұрын
I want it nice looking ! I haven't had a brand new saw since I was 12
@nathanpanter46252 жыл бұрын
For being a knock off that saw doesn’t look half bad. Love the vids!!!
@mfsaws82402 жыл бұрын
That’s a good lookin saw!
@Farm_Boy772 жыл бұрын
It may be a walbro carb but not oem quality. I ordered one of the farmertec walbro carb for my g660 the unbranded carb that came with the saw worked better. I have done 2 g372xp blue saws since Christmas did a hyway big bore on one and new west big bore on the other both ported with a ironhorse style muffler. Running 8t sprocket and 24" bars. Both saws are beasts in the cut and so far have been 100% reliable. The big bore ported g660 I did is a beast now I am waiting on a g288 to arrive for the same treatment.
@floydbeard50732 жыл бұрын
Amsoil is good oil. I like run the Lucas 2 cycle oil.
@mattmaughan25392 жыл бұрын
Great looking saw! I’d love to own a monster like that!
@antoniomorgado53042 жыл бұрын
Nice lookin saw!!!!
@eastcoastozzy28842 жыл бұрын
Nice looking saw, been thinking about getting one so I look forward to your analysis 🧐
@stevengamsby53442 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Amsoil 2cycle for over 30 years falling in the west Coast on big Douglas firs pine Blackhawk never have I had a problem my other oil that I have used for the same 30 years when I couldn’t get Amsoil because they were out of stock I’d use optimal2 which I love also
@kingsaws2 жыл бұрын
I knew I'd see one of these on your channel soon
@stephenbonawitz27512 жыл бұрын
I would like also to see a neo tech saw on your shop
@mikahakkinen56512 жыл бұрын
its going be intresting follow this build
@jmudd54492 жыл бұрын
This is the saw I need and want. I have a Pollaun 40cc and it's just not enough.
@ericholbrook30622 жыл бұрын
Brother Ironhorse , just sent that beauty on down here to Virginia and I'll work it like Bucking work an axe , been trying to get up with you to have you do some work for me
@jasonking48352 жыл бұрын
Hey Harvey what do you think of the neotec saws on Amazon I see they are coming out with a 372 also, they are orange and dark gray sharp looking unit
@codylapoint2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 066 pro version but it's coming the whole way from Taiwan or wherever via donky and dolphin I guess because it's been 5 weeks and I still haven't seen it yet.
@shawncourville4872 жыл бұрын
I have a Husqvarna 365 special , I Love it it's very fast !!
@darrelljohnson46582 жыл бұрын
I will buy that saw sawrus Trees-R-Us Oregon
@jayteaters17272 жыл бұрын
Hey Harvey how are you doing hope everyone is doing well that shure is a good looking clone something with potential when you do your thing to it
@mattsfirewoodvideos7382 жыл бұрын
That's gonna be a runner when he's done with it
@curtisnimmo21882 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to buy one of those but wanted an honest and professional opinion before I did. Now I've got it from this video. If you want to sale it, let me know where to send the money to.
@doodeeman1304 Жыл бұрын
Awesome saw man!!!!!
@Man-Time2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this build. Very good analysis on the high prices of beat up eBay saws. I’d much prefer to work on a new saw that needs a few upgrades vs a junk saw that needs everything. But I’ll choose the cheaper option all day. Maybe that’s the g372 pro?
@theironhorse66002 жыл бұрын
It sure is!
@kylepaluzzi41762 жыл бұрын
makes me want to give you my 888 with one start on it to make a nice work saw out of lol
@dannymcelyea25962 жыл бұрын
Hello there Ironhorse! Nice to meet ya Buckin sent me over!
@Ketis1985 Жыл бұрын
Harvey, i believe those things have legit Walbro carburetors since Walbro has factory in Tianjin in PRC(China) and manual said Tianjin Walbro carburetor. Im getting one of those g372pro soon to see how good they are.
@adamfurin99332 жыл бұрын
Iron horse! I’d love to buy this saw once you’ve finished! I’m not sure where to find your email, so I figured I’d try here. This would be a perfect machine to use here in Maine.
@timbarden45782 жыл бұрын
I ve had a long week in the woods.coil on 2188 shit the bed.mud to our knees..I'm more into 90 cc saws..maybe someday you can build me a big saw..lol...😎😎💪💪
@theironhorse66002 жыл бұрын
That I can do Tim!
@timbarden45782 жыл бұрын
@@theironhorse6600 your the best brother..
@docrw2 жыл бұрын
I can tell that the carb is NOT Walbro and the plug isn't NGK, and I'm 99% sure the cylinder, piston, and rings are also NOT. I know
@johnfurey65692 жыл бұрын
How are the Chinese Neo-TEC NS- 892 or it’s also called the G660 stihl knock off ?
@230e42 жыл бұрын
The prices for saws and everything has gotten way out of hand. Some of the prices on ebay are totally ridiculous, but with supply and demand for the old work horses being what it is folks are paying the price, I suspect many will end up with buyers remorse. I know I have watched several saws on ebay that were relisted multiple times after they were sold at a high price, including one supposed excellent running OE 372 that I purchased and returned to the seller with a bad oem cylinder and lots of chinesium, but he was an honest seller?Buyer beware! If we as consumers stop being so willing to pay the current prices they will go down right? Curios to hear your thoughts on this saw after tear down. I would really like to see a real comparison on these verses oem with a hardness tester used on the crank, cylinder, piston, cases and such. Time will tell how well the plastic holds up, I have seen the blue g372 plastic glue itself together with one day in the northern PA sun and need a heavy hand with a chisel or screw driver to separate the parts. Maybe I am throwing out sparks here, I see a sticker on the tank handle is that saw EPA compliant in the USA?
@sixoh_diesel56622 жыл бұрын
I might just pick one up off Amazon, be worth the risk considering you could buy 2 or 3 for the price that a 372 will cost you, hell even the redmax GZ7100 is damn near double the cost. I'd have to also order a can of Husqavarna Orange spray paint though, not a fan of fake carbon fiber. I'm nowhere near a logger still a weekend warrior but I have the redmax gz5000 and a 455 rancher that are not quite powerful enough for my 3 acres of southern yellow pine...
@theironhorse66002 жыл бұрын
You can get it in orange!
@jdspencer42972 жыл бұрын
I've got the 372xp 2 years ago and the only problem has been a carb
@evankibbe5902 жыл бұрын
Nice 👌 👋 👌
@MitchellsBackyardLogging2 жыл бұрын
I sent an email dont know if u received it but would definitely buy a ported saw from u know what makes them go so you could build it however i just need a work saw though i have had problems with the on kit saws
@dereksheaffer6082 жыл бұрын
Ive been looking at the new hydra dipped, im definitely in the market to get one..
@benbradshawjr28562 жыл бұрын
The original handle sucked on the 372.maybe my hands are too big but i use electrical rubber insulating tape on my handles to give me more grip..i use it on quite a few saws i use.
@jacobnelson91442 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure everyone would like to have an ironhorse saw.
@travisweldmaster78152 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah sounds like a deal!
@theironhorse66002 жыл бұрын
Travis!
@travisweldmaster78152 жыл бұрын
UNCLE HARVE!, I saw them on their sight there all polished up fancy lol, I cant believe the bottom end is holding in mine, hyway jug(bb) and pop up, caber, ported right it decent like...opened that little tiny exit hole it's a runner but I didn't touch the bottom and that was couple years ago now
@darrellepickering8433 Жыл бұрын
Poulan model 50/20 have problems with their fuel lines. They use a grommet in the bottom of the air box for the fuel line. 9 out of 10 times it'll deteriorate causing a leak especially if turned on it's side. You can't get just that grommet now. What you will get are fuel lines, filter, primer & carb. They seem to be a decent cheap saw. As for these knock-off saws I won't work on 'em. As you said there was a lot to fail on 'em at 1st & altho they may be better now I've not changed my mind. I've worked on saws for nigh 60 years & I think knock-offs don't need to be in my shop. Just stating an opinion.
@jackpinesavageadventures31422 жыл бұрын
👍
@mm88swrt2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for it to be a kit. I want to assemble it....
@ericnicol26162 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking I wanna get one of those. I’m not sure how long it would stay stock but they do look pretty cool.
@taskbig76642 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@darkcloud8852 жыл бұрын
Nice looking saw although I prefer orange or blue myself. I was torn between this and the ms660 so I got the 660 for the extra ccs to run 32" bar. I put meteor piston and caber rings in it. Was a little worried about the circlips that came with the meteor piston with the big double ears on them. They were easy to put in with snap ring pliers but I'm a little worried they might fly out of there. Any thoughts on those circlips? Also the meteor piston was 94 or 95g vs 85 or so for the farmertec. I remember what you said about the piston weight but felt like the meteor one was machined a little better, maybe stronger metal? The 660 runs great it was rich as all get out spewing oil out of the muffler which had me worried until I got it buried into some big oak it cleaned up just some soot after that. Started around 32:1 going 40:1 next gallon I mix up. Thanks for posting.
@DaveyBlue322 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are doing great buddy! The quality of the Meteor piston definitely is worth that little additional weight…it’s still a shag lighter then the OEM piston! The quality of material is definitely worth a little bit of additional weight. Sounds like you have been doing your homework! 40:1 is good if you run an hour at a time if you are really going at it for a couple hours at a time that little bit more of 32:1 like if you are milling a log into boards or slabs is really worth the additional oil. Remember that you only have a chain speed of 11k tops! I keep my saw’s tuned with no load at 11,800 or right at 12k… they are really rich! I’ll check my muffler port window in 6 months or a year… spinning super high rpm’s it’s needed the way I cut… keep your chain razor sharp…touching up when you need more fuel is way better than killing a chain and running it until it’s super dull… keep your fins blown off and clean and tap out your air filter after you run it all day… cleanliness makes saw’s live a long time… go around it on a rain day and retighten every single bolt… even if you need to pop your clutch to torque your case bolts…over it’s first year it’ll loosen some up…if you find one loose you want some blue lock tight on that one going back down to snug… 👍😁
@playingwivwood2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah totally agree holzfforma are the best for gearheads. Much cheaper to get and like you said you can build it to what you want and ive had really really good luck with there cylinders. Honestly seems to be stronger then hyway witch is kinda depressing for the price difference 😂
@dentondunn4346 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of buying one of those myself. They seem to be decent saws
@shawncourville4872 жыл бұрын
I was running an old home l 650 it's was huge only 24 in bar but it was giger than vw
@tomyousch7070 Жыл бұрын
I’d really love to have a holzforma 272 or288 built. By you with some improved parts for longevity and working saw performance. Please let me know how to qualify or price if we go that route. Thank you
@WarningHumanity9 ай бұрын
I just bought one 👍
@zakksrage2 жыл бұрын
449$ is a interesting price point for chineisum
@lucaslounsbury85152 жыл бұрын
Waldron has factories in us. China Thailand Japan and Mexico.
@garybennett3044 Жыл бұрын
Iron bourse can I just do a base gasket delete without checking the top of piston and top of cylinder I think it called squash it’s a brand new Holzfforma g372xp pro