The Messed Up Origins™ of The Princess and the Frog REVISITED! | Disney Explained - Jon Solo

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Jon Solo

Jon Solo

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@JonSolo
@JonSolo 2 жыл бұрын
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@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on a masterfully magnificent video, Jon! 👏🏾 Princess Tiana is one of my favorite Disney Princesses. I love learning about all of the behind-the-scenes facts about The Princess and the Frog animated film from 2009. 👸🏾🐸🐊🦗 I can’t wait to see the Baron Samedi video in a few weeks. 🤩 Your hard work definitely shows, keep it up! 👌🏾👏🏾👌🏾👏🏾
@alexiaivan7708
@alexiaivan7708 2 жыл бұрын
On Evangeline, there is also a Romanian poem by Mihai Eminescu, called “Luceafărul”, which is about a princess who falls in love with a star, but it has quite the sad ending, though I wouldn’t want to spoil it for you if you you want to read it.
@tylerojuri7296
@tylerojuri7296 2 жыл бұрын
Jon do some more Norse mythology please
@abbyravenclaw
@abbyravenclaw 2 жыл бұрын
Can you revisit Sleeping Beauty please
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 2 жыл бұрын
Trading a person for land sounds more she's a prize or soul partner
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think she *literally* _broke_ the curse by throwing the frog into the wall.
@mykaylacobb7303
@mykaylacobb7303 Жыл бұрын
Me too😂😂😂
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 Ай бұрын
Gyatt Dayum...😳☠️
@ainsleyharker2134
@ainsleyharker2134 2 жыл бұрын
For "Disney Explained" I've been patiently waiting for Jon to do "Robin Hood" and "The Sword in the Stone." They are two of my favorites, and I am really interested in their original stories.
@randomnick2641
@randomnick2641 2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in Cars bro
@CookinKirby
@CookinKirby 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomnick2641 car go vroom vroom
@Thomas_H._Smith
@Thomas_H._Smith 2 жыл бұрын
He said he was doing Robin Hood this year.
@ainsleyharker2134
@ainsleyharker2134 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thomas_H._Smith Oh did he? I didn't know that.
@Thomas_H._Smith
@Thomas_H._Smith 2 жыл бұрын
@@ainsleyharker2134 however that was replying to a comment I made about the same thing as well as Swan Lake which he told me was coming in December and didn't. So keep that in mind
@TryingForSomethingNew
@TryingForSomethingNew 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the princess and the frog is one of the LAST 2D animated films Disney ever released not including shorts.
@spiwolf6998
@spiwolf6998 2 жыл бұрын
Since "Home on the Range" was such a flop they were scared to try 2D for a while. Which is really sad because though I love the CGI animated films there is just something so endearing about hand drawn animation.
@IceQueen975
@IceQueen975 2 жыл бұрын
And I continue to mourn this because it was animated stunningly. 3D honestly looks plasticy and lame.
@Nick-dx2pt
@Nick-dx2pt 2 жыл бұрын
@@IceQueen975 it's just a drawing that's moving (oversimplified of what an animation is, both 2d and 3d) how does a moving drawing look "plasticy" and "lame" I mean don't you have a drawing as your pfp?????
@tiarahelaine3949
@tiarahelaine3949 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really miss 2d animation 🥲 3d is great too but I just associate 2d with nostalgia
@s0lar.ecl1pse83
@s0lar.ecl1pse83 2 жыл бұрын
@@IceQueen975 bro was your only exposure to 3D animation that dr*am music video?
@pandoravex4791
@pandoravex4791 2 жыл бұрын
Belle is my favorite Disney princess cause I grew up with her. But Tiana is a super close second just because of her work effort and determination. She’s such an honest person, I feel she’s the best role model out of all the Disney princesses. She really is underrated.
@micah459
@micah459 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Mulan was pretty cool and could also fight. Tiana was a hard worker but too desperate to the point that she kissed a frog lol
@krisl6537
@krisl6537 2 жыл бұрын
Tiana was actually based on very strong stereotypes. I really don't care for how dirty disney did her or the princess and the frog. However Mulan, Moana and Vanellope Von shweetz were pretty awesome.
@camrynbrewer2370
@camrynbrewer2370 2 жыл бұрын
Can I make a suggestion for Disney Explained? How about Roger Rabbit? It would most likely be a VERY messed up origin, because the original book, Who Censored Roger Rabbit, is almost completely different from the film. The movie is dark, but the book is downright cynical and mean spirited. Almost every single character is a complete a-hole (yes, even Roger).
@Lycan4
@Lycan4 2 жыл бұрын
Especially Roger.
@krisl6537
@krisl6537 2 жыл бұрын
I second this
@TiffLane
@TiffLane 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew this! I'm definitely going to look this up. Thanks for this info
@gillyvalenzuela1973
@gillyvalenzuela1973 2 жыл бұрын
I hate this You guys all support a a hole known as Wotsovideos
@jaybrittain2428
@jaybrittain2428 2 жыл бұрын
There was a lost in adaptation video on who framed roger rabbit. It was pretty good 👍
@QueenDeni
@QueenDeni 2 жыл бұрын
The first story with the golden ball was one of the first versions of the tale I ever read. I remember the prince's reasoning for it working was that the witch's curse specified that he had to make a princess lose her composure. To the point of actually throwing a fit and becoming violent. I thought that was hilarious, tbh.
@jessicajones1995
@jessicajones1995 2 жыл бұрын
But she threw him at wall and yet he still marries her after she threw him against a wall like wtf
@QueenDeni
@QueenDeni 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicajones1995 I don't k*nk shame.
@jessicajones1995
@jessicajones1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@QueenDeni what?
@garfeld625
@garfeld625 2 жыл бұрын
I would love if the story of the frog prince thrown at the wall instead ended either by: 1. He just dies (but still changes back) 2. He has his carriage pull up and is like "byeeeeeee" because she was mean and needed to be dumped
@WraythSkitzofrenik
@WraythSkitzofrenik 2 жыл бұрын
There's a delightfully morbid Graphic Novel that gives a similar ending.
@paltheporg7821
@paltheporg7821 2 жыл бұрын
The second one would be awesome and hilarious
@redraven_y2k
@redraven_y2k 2 жыл бұрын
Read Adam Gidwitz's In a Glass Grimmly. Actually, the whole Grimmly Series is very Dark but very Good.
@TheArtfulAddict
@TheArtfulAddict 2 жыл бұрын
The research done for each episode is amazing, regardless of the topic. I love Jon's format, as well. Consistently awesome videos!
@bowlman_
@bowlman_ 2 жыл бұрын
He's especially good at recognizing when he wasn't so good at that before. Even this video he's going over everything again just to add more details and get the whole picture
@nittarogers-mj6ut
@nittarogers-mj6ut 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this one but I thought Jon would have mentioned Tiana’s real life counterpart Leah Chase. She was a famous chef in New Orleans and owned her own restaurant. I suggest anyone reading this should look at her story because it’s an interesting one. Happy Black History month to all my fellow Black Jon Solo fans❤️
@jamieyoung9206
@jamieyoung9206 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would’ve been nice to mention who Tiana’s character was inspired by
@sarahprince2412
@sarahprince2412 2 жыл бұрын
But he is referring to the actual origin of the story. Not who Tiana is based on. It doesn’t make sense to talk about her inspiration because it has nothing to do with talking about the original fairytale and the different messed up versions. Why would he talk about who was her inspiration? That is the whole point of Messed Up Origins. It talks about these adaptations and the original stories they are based on. Princess and the Frog/Frog Prince(whatever people want to go by) is a fairytale. The Disney movie is based off of that. So it’s not a new story. Just saying.
@sarahprince2412
@sarahprince2412 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamieyoung9206 No it doesn’t make sense because Jon talks about messed up origins of these fairytales that we see in movies, tv shows, etc. Who Tiana’s character was inspired by has NOTHING to do with talking about the messed up origins of the fairytale. The original fairytale isn’t based on a black character btw. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but Disney did this movie because the black community was bitching and whining about how there is no representation or that all their movies only had white princesses which was total bullshit. Hello, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Kiva, hell Nala(even though she was in animal form) came out way before Princess and the Frog and were/are considered princesses and they are NOT white. We didn’t have a problem with it either. So they have no say to gripe about how there was no representation of nonwhite princesses. Also, hate to break it to people but most of these fairytales that Disney took from for their movies are from WHITE European countries and cultures so it makes sense that the princesses would be white. Also also, what the black community needs to understand is that the majority of people here in the states are WHITE people so it makes sense that there are going to be more white representation when it comes to the media and in the entertainment industry. That’s just a fact. If I went to different countries is Africa then it would be expected to see more black representation than white people in their media and entertainment industry. Forced representation is a detriment to everyone. You don’t FORCE representation just because people bitch and whine about it. It only isolates people and can make them mad too because you are forcing race into everything. It also means that people want to be seen because of their color. If the majority of a country is one race then don’t complain that you see more of that race. Just saying. Wasn’t trying to make this long but I could give 2 shits who Tiana’s character was based on because this video is referring to the ORIGINAL messed up fairytale of the movie AND the movie took a WHITE character and turned her black just for the sake of pleasing the black community who were bitching and whining. I would have preferred Disney to do an ORIGINAL story based on African fairytales(there are plenty I’m sure) instead of taking a WHITE fairytale that is clearly European inspired and making the character black. That’s what annoyed me with the movie. They were just pandering to the black community to appease them. And NO, my statement doesn’t mean I’m racist for pointing out the truth or a Karen. Wanted to get that out there before you come at me.
@sarahprince2412
@sarahprince2412 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I’m not trying to be mean but why is it you guys always have to bring up your own race when making comments? YOU guys are a detriment to yourselves when you constantly bring up your own race. To me it says that you ONLY want to be seen because of your skin color. Didn’t you guys learn anything from Martin Luther King Jr.’s speech? He said to be judged based on content of character and NOT on skin color but that is all the majority of the black community wants to be seen by. Then if there is a black person who refuses to play up the stereotypes or is a Republican/Conservative then they are called an Uncle Tom by YOUR own people because you guys think they aren’t black enough or they are traitors(which they aren’t btw). I’m just saying that when you guys make comments there’s no need to bring your own race saying my fellow black this or black that. Just say that you are a Jon Solo fan. White people don’t say they are fellow white Jon Solo fans. Asians don’t say Asian Jon Solo fans. So please, for the love of God, STOP bringing your race into comments. It has nothing to do with well you were oppressed as you people would say. Believe it or not, you guys are NOT oppressed. YOU guys have NEVER been enslaved. Slavery ended over 100 years ago so you guys never went through that. What IS happening is that you guys are being brainwashed by the Liberals into believing that you are being held down when in reality you aren’t. You are being brainwashed into thinking that you face racism and oppression. Statistically speaking, there is more black on black crime than white on black crime(that includes white cops). Also, the majority of problems that many of these people that are shown in the media face are because THEY caused the issues in the first place. Has nothing to do with race. Just saying. Wasn’t trying to go off topic but it’s time for you guys to stop making everything a race issue, bring your race into comments or say how everyone is out to get you. Everyone has faced oppression, been enslaved, faced bigotry and racism at one point. That includes white people. Time for you guys to move on already.
@nittarogers-mj6ut
@nittarogers-mj6ut 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahprince2412 Hello Sarah I’m going to keep this short and sweet because I don’t like to argue with people who have clearly never read a book or left the small town they live in but the truth of the matter is Tiana’s story (the driving force behind the movie) was 1:Tiana getting her restaurant 2: Tiana’s BLACK POOR BACKGROUND and 3: Prince Naveen overcoming his entitlement (Which had nothing to do with what I’m speaking on but it’s a major part of the film). I’m sorry that your neanderthal brain couldn’t understand a concept so complex as a story being contrived of multiple inspirations but it is possible and it is very true. The fact that it is widely acknowledged that both Pocahontas and Mulan are POC characters with their inspiration also coming from historical figures while the historical figure that inspired Tiana isn’t given any light doesn’t give the story justice. Also, until you get a sociological degree with a focus on Black issues you have NO business telling me ANYTHING about what we go through and how to fix it. I mean this with every once of disrespect I can muster, Have a blessed day.❤️
@Zubstep1315
@Zubstep1315 2 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend and I of 3 years just broke up amicably (which somehow feels worse than getting cheated on) and this video is literally the only thing keeping me from going off the deep end rn. Thanks Jon.
@tawnie9204
@tawnie9204 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Really sorry, that sucks! I’m happy things ended amicably, it’s still really hard. I hope you are comforted somehow and better days return soon.
@Zubstep1315
@Zubstep1315 2 жыл бұрын
@@tawnie9204 Thank you so much for that
@shaylagogobean417
@shaylagogobean417 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is hard and I'm probably late to this comment but what's for you is for you. It's coming towards you just hold on.
@Doog-xg3te
@Doog-xg3te 2 жыл бұрын
Khjjiuk
@DrDolan2000
@DrDolan2000 5 ай бұрын
Never would've thought an amicable seperation would feel worse Is it because the other party agrees that you both aren't right for each other? That does kind of make it sound like you both share blame, and that doesn't feel great
@HitchcockJohn
@HitchcockJohn 2 жыл бұрын
There was a really strange version of the Frog Prince by Jim Henson, I think from the 70's. It was when he was starting on the Muppets and might have been the first appearance of Kermit, Robin, and Sweetums but don't quote me on that. That one started off similarly but took a few unusual turns. It begins with the whole situation involving the Princess making a deal with the frog (played by Robin) for her ball except... she actually tries to keep her promise, only to be hindered by the same witch who cursed the frog. Also the witch put a curse on the Princess so she can only speak in anagrams, and is plotting a coup. It's a lot of fun if you get the chance.
@kelleyceccato7025
@kelleyceccato7025 2 жыл бұрын
Love, love, LOVE The Muppet Frog Prince. "Taunt Aminella! Taunt Aminella!"
@HitchcockJohn
@HitchcockJohn 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelleyceccato7025 "If only we can bake the hall in the candle of her brain."
@torababble3046
@torababble3046 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that when Ray joins Evangeline, she becomes the Second Star To The Right? Evangeline = Neverland
@WraythSkitzofrenik
@WraythSkitzofrenik 2 жыл бұрын
Waaaaaaahhhhh!
@grekoy
@grekoy 2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of the Frog Princess? This story involves a golden arrow, three princes, a king, some tests, and a princess curse to be a frog.
@sxatcychan1988
@sxatcychan1988 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of that, but I have heard of "The Frog Tsarevna". ... ... ... I don't have a troll face emoji to post.
@AdiiraKuro
@AdiiraKuro 2 жыл бұрын
You mean when the frog proves to be more capable wife than her sisters-in-law and later the most beautiful woman who can create a lake with swans only by swing of her sleeve filled with vine and baked swan bones?
@grekoy
@grekoy 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdiiraKuro That's the one. I was trying my best to be specific without giving too much away.
@spaghettiiboobz
@spaghettiiboobz 2 жыл бұрын
I actually told that story to my kids last night for bed. My daughter wasn't impressed 😂😂😂
@Hinatachan360
@Hinatachan360 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have heard of it.
@ThatGenericDude
@ThatGenericDude 2 жыл бұрын
I love the saying, everything isn't original. It must be a fact of life for Disney though at least they try to make it unique til this last decade...
@bowlman_
@bowlman_ 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Not til the last decade. They have never made a single story without ripping the main conflict and most of the characters from another one.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the Disney version and being disappointed that the princess was a frog nearly the whole movie.
@micah459
@micah459 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was disappointing and it honestly turned me off from the movie.
@Lady_Chalk
@Lady_Chalk 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Lord Mickey! Forbid a dark skinned protagonist!
@moondivine2288
@moondivine2288 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious why you would be disappointed. The alternative is Tiana having adventures and eventually falling in love with a frog as a human. I feel people would make fun of her for being some sort of furry. I know frogs don’t have fur. The US doesn’t have royalty hence why Tiana was simply a hard working girl until the end. It’s way better than a spoiled princess to me.
@micah459
@micah459 2 жыл бұрын
@@moondivine2288 Because she was the first official black princess but she's a frog for majority of the movie. Disney has a history of turning POC into some sort of creature and not turning them back into the end. Also let's be honest, her falling in love with an actual frog is just nasty. It's one thing if she saw him as a human first but she literally fell for him as a frog which is weird and still makes her a furry because she knows she's a human but doesn't 100% know he isn't just a talking frog. At least the prince saw her BEFORE she turned into a frog so it's not as nasty
@aceofspades9503
@aceofspades9503 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda hated that she wound up with Prince Naveen- he spent the entire movie as an entitled lay about and doesn't really learn much of anything by the end. Sure they imply that he is now going to be working beside her.....but my bet is that his good intentions last about six months, and that after that he would be blowing all their money on nights out with the boys at the bar and not bothering to help at the restaurant. She deserved better.
@nj6966
@nj6966 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of Jon's deadpan humour and thorough research
@tayloredwards4968
@tayloredwards4968 2 жыл бұрын
The most underrated Disney princess movie ever 👑
@xxjulia0xx341
@xxjulia0xx341 4 ай бұрын
but it is a fake movie
@souliewrld
@souliewrld 24 күн бұрын
@@xxjulia0xx341what?
@xxjulia0xx341
@xxjulia0xx341 24 күн бұрын
@@souliewrld it's a fake copy it's not the real story
@saradsilv305
@saradsilv305 2 жыл бұрын
The way penny just slowly looked at you at the end is hilarious 😂😂😂😂 I love it
@brianlevine871
@brianlevine871 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard about the whole 'being thrown to a wall' ending for the frog prince, but the others you mentioned are new to me. Also the fact that one of these stories was called "The Singing Frog" makes me want to see a frog prince version of "One Froggy Evening."
@valenciageode25
@valenciageode25 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being that king. A frog shows up, your daughter says she owes him a favor, you let him in the castle, next morning she’s gone with some dude.
@hippo1701
@hippo1701 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, the "princess" is the average person and the "frog prince" is something they want but it requires "bad things" (like kissing the frog or throwing it against the wall, etc.) and the "king" is they conscience (like Jimmy Cricket) to help us do the right thing to get the reward. Example: the average person wants to be educated. Some bad things are taking classes that don't have anything to do with the degree. Our conscience is there helping us succeed with the bad things and getting the degree.
@winteryuki_onna8172
@winteryuki_onna8172 2 жыл бұрын
The way he said "I want to sleep with you" made the Disney frog prince less of a creep than the real story frog prince.
@nynychrisamsp538
@nynychrisamsp538 2 жыл бұрын
But I know someone might try to rudely correct you about the pronunciation but it’s like Sam -Di but you did good🥰☺️
@davidfitzpatrick6992
@davidfitzpatrick6992 2 жыл бұрын
14:46 Yeah difference between Canadian history and American History eh Jon? Here in Canada we're taught about the Acadian expulsion in Grade 7 history while most other places tend to ignore that time period. The British were absolute brutes to the Acadians even though they were willing to become British Subjects despite being French.
@rhondawest6838
@rhondawest6838 2 жыл бұрын
And also, at no point in history was Acadia/Nova Scotia part of the United States. (Unless I totally misheard him saying it was in the north eastern U.S.)
@sandrasaunders8777
@sandrasaunders8777 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhondawest6838 no, you heard right. I came into the comments to see if anyone corrected him. As a Nova Scotian, I'm not letting that slide :)
@rhondawest6838
@rhondawest6838 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandrasaunders8777 Same here. With Acadian ancestry to boot. 😉
@blackeyedsusan727
@blackeyedsusan727 2 жыл бұрын
American here. I knew about Acadian history since I was a kid because I was a geek, a Francophile, and was generally interested having some French ancestry. U.S. public and religious-school education is a joke: U.S. students are not taught their own history, let alone that of Canada or México, even for bordering regions (like Nova Scotia).
@Rockieswoobie
@Rockieswoobie 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandrasaunders8777 same
@juliohernandez8892
@juliohernandez8892 2 жыл бұрын
To me the moral of the Disney version is very clear: it’s ok to have wishes and dreams but a star in the sky is not gonna make them come true, effort and resilience will. Tiana promised never to kiss a from in exchange for wealth and Ana as she broke that promise to herself and her father she got turned in to a frog until she could learn that lesson. Once she discovered that love was more important than wealth and got married regardless of the reward of being a princess, she got her wish.
@ivan_page
@ivan_page 2 жыл бұрын
"The Frog Princess" also as "Vasilisa, the Wise". Russian "Frog cursed" one.
@ellium1147
@ellium1147 2 жыл бұрын
At minute 12:44, in "The Curse" section, there is Penny Jack version from France - it's a perfect lead into mentioning the Russian fairytale with the same story elements, but I guess "Russian" is a bad word right now 🤫
@ivan_page
@ivan_page 2 жыл бұрын
А вот это обидно!😐
@OnePieceGuy55
@OnePieceGuy55 2 жыл бұрын
Dosent Doctor Facilier remind anyone else of Jafar or is it just me?
@pamelamays4186
@pamelamays4186 2 жыл бұрын
In the Disney film, Tia didn't throw Frog Naveen against a wall, but, she did hit and smash him with a book. Also, Lottie threw Naveen pretty hard on the ground in his frog form.
@classiest
@classiest 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this channel in a while, feels good to be back
@JonSolo
@JonSolo 2 жыл бұрын
welcome back!
@stonalisa3729
@stonalisa3729 2 жыл бұрын
same
@theanimeunderworld8338
@theanimeunderworld8338 2 жыл бұрын
This is always a good movie to watch around Mardi Gras
@warbingtonshauniese
@warbingtonshauniese 2 жыл бұрын
Another great and interesting video that definitely didn't ruin my childhood😆. Also, I read The Frog Princess many years ago, I had forgotten about it until I watched this video. Now I want to reread it.
@hollyzacharias7901
@hollyzacharias7901 2 жыл бұрын
In Shelly Duvall's Faire Tale Theatre, Terry Garr and Robin Williams do The Frog Prince
@RayGamingChannel10
@RayGamingChannel10 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos the information and the humor this channel is unmatched can't wait for Egypt mythology
@jacobshore5115
@jacobshore5115 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the Baron Samedi episode! He sounds like a cool figure.
@biancacrowder1028
@biancacrowder1028 2 жыл бұрын
This one is my favorite! I appreciate it every time you revise these. It shows your dedication to what you do, and your love of it makes it that mucb more authentic and brings me in more.
@parypearl382
@parypearl382 2 жыл бұрын
I once heard that the golden ball version of this story was an allegory. The ball represented the girl's greatest treasure, her virginity, and the frog represented, well, a dick. At first she thinks it's gross and scary, but she learns the value of carnal love in the end.
@howtubeable
@howtubeable 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Plus, there's the emotional maturity that comes with marriage and having children.
@bellablue5285
@bellablue5285 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fairly gross backstory for a children's story, hopefully that fades into obscurity (there are enough weirdos out there pushing the 'females are only as good as their bodies/purity' and it's frankly fricked up)
@KawaiiStars
@KawaiiStars 2 жыл бұрын
@@bellablue5285 no the more things fade into obscurity the less we learn about the people who came from those times
@bellablue5285
@bellablue5285 2 жыл бұрын
@@KawaiiStars agree to disagree, this is perfect support for the commoditization of virginity, which leads to abuse and unnecessary stigma
@KawaiiStars
@KawaiiStars 2 жыл бұрын
@@bellablue5285 but that's what i mean, if all records of misogyny were erased we'd have no records of our progress and wouldn't understand our ancestors, on that point most books from our libraries from fairytale to non-fiction literature would be gone, because standards were WAY different then Also you can judge a source objectively without agreeing with it. you just need to be taught critical thinking
@ameliaroseillustrations
@ameliaroseillustrations 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if anyone else has suggested this, but I would love to hear the origins of Barbie’s The Princess and the Pauper (aka the Prince and the Pauper). 😂😂 Also ‘Lucy Locket lost her pocket’, if that hasn’t already been done.
@sakilynn
@sakilynn Жыл бұрын
Lion King is my favorite Disney movie! How did I not catch that Easter Egg that was practically thrown at me?!
@kittyythecat
@kittyythecat 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please do the black cauldron?? I know Disney looks down on it but I hear there is differences in the book!
@vvsoftem3336
@vvsoftem3336 2 жыл бұрын
Wait Disney looks down on it? Why?
@Silencer796
@Silencer796 Жыл бұрын
@@vvsoftem3336apparently it’s dark
@vvsoftem3336
@vvsoftem3336 Жыл бұрын
@Silencer796 oh I thought they looked down on it because it's not as successful like the other movies
@alexiaivan7708
@alexiaivan7708 2 жыл бұрын
On Evangeline, there is also a Romanian poem by Mihai Eminescu, called “Luceafărul”, which is about a princess who falls in love with a star, but it has quite the sad ending, though I wouldn’t want to spoil it for you if you you want to read it.
@medo5417
@medo5417 2 жыл бұрын
A messed up origins of Cats would be hilarious :)
@wearawatch7352
@wearawatch7352 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you mentioned "The Frog Princess"! That was my all time favorite book growing up, and really doesn't get the credit it deserves for inspiring the beloved Disney movie. E.D. Baker is a great author and I highly recommend her books, especially if you like new spins on fairy tales. (Even though they're kids books, they still remain charming as an adult in my opinion.)
@kyanite4818
@kyanite4818 2 жыл бұрын
It was also my absolute favorite!! I reread it so many times as a kid and I could probably recite the entire plot from memory. I was so upset that it wasn’t super recognized when the movie came out. Seriously needs more credit.
@kyanite4818
@kyanite4818 2 жыл бұрын
Also wished there was a direct movie adaptation
@wearawatch7352
@wearawatch7352 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyanite4818 Absolutely agree to both! It would make such a cute movie!
@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! Penny’s (slow head turn) reaction to Jon’s kiss at the end of this video is the FUNNIEST thing that I have seen all day! All the scene needed is a thought bubble over Penny’s head saying, “What do you think you’re doing?” 😂🤣🐶😡
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
It's also a shame that this is a severely underrated Disney movie and we all know why.
@randomnick2641
@randomnick2641 2 жыл бұрын
cause they black?
@micah459
@micah459 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh the movie wasn't great and while she is a black princess, she was a frog for most of the movie which was a letdown
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 2 жыл бұрын
@@micah459 I thought making her a frog was a good twist on the tale frankly. They even almost pulled a Shrek and had the Disney couple STAY frogs but have a happy marriage nonetheless! I think Tiana still could have run a restaurant as a frog. Probably easier to find a property for that business as a frog than as a human.
@Sennodev
@Sennodev 2 жыл бұрын
They did that for the movie soul the main character was black and was a soul for most of the movie, same with this one, Disney don’t like to show the black representation
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sennodev I haven't seen that movie yet but yes what you said people that have seen it, have told me that.
@kegrimm4160
@kegrimm4160 2 жыл бұрын
idk if was what everyone else heard as a kid in the US, but I live in the southern states so it might be kinda different. For the most part it's the same at the start. The princess is playing with her ball near a well when it falls into the well and sinks. The frog sees this and offers to get it for her in return for a kiss. She promises and he gives her the ball but she ran before she could kiss him. She rushes home and tells her father about what happened. He basically lets her know he's disappointed for breaking a promise she made to someone who decided to help her, but he doesn't force her to fulfill it. Instead she takes some time to think about it before returning to the well. When she finds the frog she apologizes to him for breaking her promise and that she originally didn't want to kiss him because he was ugly. She then kisses him to keep her promise when he then turns into a prince. I can't remember if the got married right after or if it was much later though. The lessons I learned from that version was to keep your promises and not to judge someone based on their looks. Most of this was remembering from when I was a kid, which was a good while back since I'm 30 now. Not sure if it's any different from what most know today, but I thought I'd share it.
@vladtheimpala5532
@vladtheimpala5532 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the Acadians went to southern Louisiana (being French territory at the time) their descendants are now called Cajuns, a corruption of Acadians. The term Cajun is now applied to a lot of the people in that area even if they aren’t necessarily descendants of the original Acadians.
@zarinaa1135
@zarinaa1135 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the book by E D Baker. I commented about it on your first Princess and the Frog video, and not that i think my comment tipped the scales, and I'm really happy you're telling others about it and giving credit where its due.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 2 жыл бұрын
6:55 Mucus is a kind of slime. Saying "It is not slime. It is mucus." is like saying, "It is not a fish, it is a trout."
@michellecrocker2485
@michellecrocker2485 2 жыл бұрын
We need some more Asian folktales covered. There’s one I read that is all too similar to Shakespeare’s taming of the shrew
@shannonneil8327
@shannonneil8327 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Jon. Always fun and informative. Love from Jamaica 🇯🇲 and I love Penny 🙂
@pamelamays4186
@pamelamays4186 2 жыл бұрын
A few years ago on the internet I saw some artwork for The Princess And The Frog 2. The basic idea was the the romance between Ray his star love Evangeline was going to be delved into more.
@lashaunaanderson9412
@lashaunaanderson9412 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated Disney movie 🥰
@xxjulia0xx341
@xxjulia0xx341 4 ай бұрын
but it is a lie
@brittforbes6085
@brittforbes6085 2 жыл бұрын
Really thought you were sponsored by extra chewy for a minute there, watched the add just to make sure 😂
@carminecdinoproductions
@carminecdinoproductions 2 жыл бұрын
There’s some kind of story archetype where a cursed prince that was turned into a creature needs a beautiful maiden to turn back into a human and The Frog Prince isn’t the only story for the archetype!
@glorygloryholeallelujah
@glorygloryholeallelujah 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah-my dad would’ve totally made me honor my promise to the frog too. 🤣
@DoubleDealingDisarray
@DoubleDealingDisarray 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Celtic folklore! Are you going to start with the Tuatha dé Danann? It would be something that could probably point out several of the important figures then whittle it all down into individuals. Also, when Penny looked at you, I couldn't help laughing. That was awesome! X) Great work! I'm looking forward to the next one! :D
@JTuaim
@JTuaim 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see what John comes up with about Nuada too, and even more, something about the Tuatha na Anna.
@DoubleDealingDisarray
@DoubleDealingDisarray 2 жыл бұрын
@@JTuaim Nuada of the Silver Hand is awesome! I'm looking forward to a video of Gwyn ap Nudd or even of Herne the Hunter, but I think the latter is a bit too recent of a myth. But I haven't read that one in years. I've been reading a bunch of paranormal accounts of fairies, ghosts, and such of the British Isles and it tends to get similar to other accounts from around the world. My brain's in a muddle. X)
@WraythSkitzofrenik
@WraythSkitzofrenik 2 жыл бұрын
Give us the most heroically named hero: Fionn Mac Cuhaill
@DoubleDealingDisarray
@DoubleDealingDisarray 2 жыл бұрын
@@WraythSkitzofrenik Yes!
@JTuaim
@JTuaim 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoubleDealingDisarray Right? I have older books and yes, tales have morphed a bit.
@rociomiranda5684
@rociomiranda5684 2 жыл бұрын
The Princess in the old tale is a favorite character of mine. She's capricious, short tempered, not above breaking a promise she doesn't want to keep, capable of murderous rage, and yet she gets her Prince. Very un-Disney like.
@CrazyCartoonCat12
@CrazyCartoonCat12 2 жыл бұрын
So... The princess in the Korean story basically did what most people do in biology class. Also, Ray is precious and didn't deserve to be squished!
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
The princess aide better get that enlarged heart checked out,he could develop high blood pressure problems.
@brutusaq7276
@brutusaq7276 6 ай бұрын
I love Jon solo I’ve binged almost all of his videos I love the folklore stories especially the Native American ones Jon should do more videos on native deities from tribes in the southwest like the kachinas of the Hopi and Zuni it would be cool or he could also read and analyze old folktale books I have one and it talks about the creation of different creatures, the sun, water, stuff like that he should do more Native American stuuff
@grumpy_bait
@grumpy_bait 2 жыл бұрын
Parts of Eastern Canada were also part of Acadia
@crimson5163
@crimson5163 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, I've been waiting for this revisit 😩🙏
@serenityriver2701
@serenityriver2701 2 жыл бұрын
This video made me happy.
@VampyRagDoll
@VampyRagDoll 2 жыл бұрын
Jon you educate people.
@TheEmperorInferno
@TheEmperorInferno 2 жыл бұрын
"Jon shot first" HE DID, INDEED, MY MAN. HE REALLY DID
@robertstonejr6717
@robertstonejr6717 2 жыл бұрын
I hate buying merch but im about to buy that pink solo shirt tho 🤣😂
@PurelyCoincidental
@PurelyCoincidental 2 жыл бұрын
The French expelled from Acadia ended up in many places. In the 13 colonies it was limited to those that would accept Catholics...which wasn't many, maybe just the Carolinas and Rhode Island. Many of the Acadians ended up in what is now Louisiana, which is why the southern part of it is (still) called Acadiana, and where the term Cajun comes from. (There are also places there named Evangeline, after the poem.) Fyi, for those outside the US, I am Cajun but grew up in the northeast, and no, we learned pretty much squat about all this in school, so I don't blame Jon for getting some of the facts wrong. It's fine, it's a good video otherwise. :)
@Bbsgirl1023
@Bbsgirl1023 2 жыл бұрын
Many ended up here in Maine as well! The Acadian catholics were indentured with the Irish catholics up here. That is how my family settled here in Maine.
@PurelyCoincidental
@PurelyCoincidental 2 жыл бұрын
Reading your comment, I'm now remembering a couple friends who are descended from Acadians who snuck across the border and settled in northern Vermont. Probably similar story. Fyi, there are a number of Irish surnames in the Cajun community as well. I think there was a lot of, "But he's a nice Catholic boy," lol.
@Bbsgirl1023
@Bbsgirl1023 2 жыл бұрын
@Purely Coincidental Agreed. I definitely think the discrimination of catholics in the early years of the US caused these pockets to form. Discrimination of Irish and French candaian catholics was prevalent here in Maine until my grandparents time. My grandfather had to pretend to not understand French and hide his rosary at his first few jobs to avoid discrimination.
@nynychrisamsp538
@nynychrisamsp538 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not like a month late for the first time and early😭
@katieh.1084
@katieh.1084 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish you would do video on Hans Christian Andersen's The Red Shoes. It a VERY messed up fairytale, I'm surprised you haven't done it yet.
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh!!! I'm kind of shocked you actually mentioned the Ed Baker novel I didn't think anybody else knew about it
@DoubleKay31
@DoubleKay31 Жыл бұрын
In “The Frog Princess”, the princess’s full name was Emeralda. Emma was just her nickname.
@megdelany5688
@megdelany5688 2 жыл бұрын
Are You Ready? is probably my favorite song/scene!
@mickeychick6903
@mickeychick6903 2 жыл бұрын
Love that Mickey shirt!! Always love the videos!
@hospitalgal101
@hospitalgal101 2 жыл бұрын
Dude. I had convinced myself that The Frog Princess was a book I had fever dreamed reading
@micah459
@micah459 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even like the Disney movie but Jon Solo can make anything entertaining and intriguing.
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 2 жыл бұрын
I would really recommend the Ed Baker series they are amazing books well the first four are the second floor get kind of weird
@wearawatch7352
@wearawatch7352 2 жыл бұрын
@@lahlybird895 I second this! Though I agree the latter half of the series got a little weird (though still enjoyable) and the last one was just a trainwreck lol
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 2 жыл бұрын
@@wearawatch7352 yeah... It was kind of cute but also why did it need to be a thing
@ari-yl2yn
@ari-yl2yn 2 жыл бұрын
why didn’t u like it?
@ashleymurphy7614
@ashleymurphy7614 2 жыл бұрын
Messed up origins of American horror story would be amazing by you 😍😍🙃
@maritsa7381
@maritsa7381 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the Frog Princess and Rapunzel's Revenge, and I always thought they were the inspirations for Princess and the Frog and Tangled.
@1anastudent
@1anastudent 2 жыл бұрын
There was a 30 minute version of the frog prince made for children in the 80s. It stared Teri Garr and Robin Williams. If you can find it, I recommend watching
@kataw0404
@kataw0404 2 жыл бұрын
Faerie Tale Theater with Shelley Duvall
@6193derek
@6193derek 2 жыл бұрын
Acadia was not in the north eastern united States. Acadia is the former name of Present day Nova Scotia, the name was changed after the expulsion
@miralcalugcugan7960
@miralcalugcugan7960 2 жыл бұрын
I see it as an allegory for entitled men. Or people in general. But mostly men. I thinknit shows how men think they are entitled to a woman's love and affection just because they helped them. The "nice guys" as they say. And the princess's constant refusal stripped that entitlement away and so he became a prince.
@Bellaxoxo1
@Bellaxoxo1 2 жыл бұрын
Omg your vids are so good..... I used to love princess and the frog....😢🙁😯
@angelofdudes
@angelofdudes 2 жыл бұрын
The Evangeline poem reminds me of Devdas, I won't spoil the ending, but it's a bit sadder than Evangeline
@galaxypaintbrush9310
@galaxypaintbrush9310 2 жыл бұрын
It would be funny if you were at school and had to dissect a frog and it just turned into your new husband
@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on a masterfully magnificent video, Jon! 👏🏾 Princess Tiana is one of my favorite Disney Princesses. I love learning about all of the behind-the-scenes facts about The Princess and the Frog animated film from 2009. 👸🏾🐸🐊🦗 I can’t wait to see the Baron Samedi video in a few weeks. 🤩 Your hard work definitely shows, keep it up! 👌🏾👏🏾👌🏾👏🏾
@tdfox4052
@tdfox4052 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else know the book East of the Sun West of the Moon? There's a pretty nice frog prince version in that
@nyellwilliams8476
@nyellwilliams8476 2 жыл бұрын
Do the Amazons
@lavinialadlass9432
@lavinialadlass9432 2 жыл бұрын
Wow kid stories used to be a lot more interesting. I doubt you find much of those today.
@zarinaa1135
@zarinaa1135 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I read a retelling of this story that had a mural on the princesses wall and when thrown against the wall the curse reversed, turning the frog into a prince, because the wall was magic. Thought it was quiet clever.
@chummy707
@chummy707 2 жыл бұрын
Finally hearing the story about Evangeline is amazing as an Acadian
@ladykoiwolfe
@ladykoiwolfe 2 жыл бұрын
I admit to dreading this episode, but that Baron Samedi episode sounds very cool. The Princess and the frog has always been my least favorite story because that frog would be out of luck with me. I'm not getting anywhere near him. I admit I really like Tiana though. She's a very cool young lady.
@m1chelle593
@m1chelle593 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon! Happy to see you! I’ve been watching ur videos the past couple of days, mostly Disney explained and fables. I’ve been a solo fam since 2018 lol. Good to see your doing well!
@ISeeWhatYouDidThere
@ISeeWhatYouDidThere 2 жыл бұрын
Yes new video! Love to watch/listen to your incredibly interesting videos while I cook dinner. Tonight were having burritos! 🌯🍨
@tonyjohnson8752
@tonyjohnson8752 3 ай бұрын
Just remember kids no matter how many frogs you kiss they will never turn into a prince.
@bboops23
@bboops23 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully with Celtic Folklore we can get the Goddess Brigid, my favorite mythological figure as she has my name.
@WraythSkitzofrenik
@WraythSkitzofrenik 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I would love that
@Akrialgaliarept
@Akrialgaliarept 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE LINKED THIS BOOK TO THIS MOVIE! I read it years ago and was surprised to see how close the plot lines were!
@robynsegg
@robynsegg 2 жыл бұрын
6:42... The frog 🐸 with the lipstick! 👄🤣🤣🤣 7:57 - 8:00... *Shudders Hard* 🤢
@LuckyStone888
@LuckyStone888 2 жыл бұрын
I like frogs, never kissed one, but I've heard all the stories previous to this video. This comment is not a critique, it's that I like to write a comment to support the channels I enjoy,
@justanotherlazytrashpanda
@justanotherlazytrashpanda 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly would love to hear about the Korean variant of the story that was briefly mentioned, or just koren folktales in general tbh
@alexcampbell7057
@alexcampbell7057 2 жыл бұрын
Chan you do some Japanese Messed Up Origins?😍😍 Like Claymore, Neon Genesis Evangelion.😍😍😍😍
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