The VERY Messed Up Origins™ of Donkey Skin | Folklore Explained - Jon Solo

[@saragirl1465]

Honestly, the moral I was getting was, you gotta do what you gotta do to save yourself because no one else will.

[@LuznoLindo]

It seems that way considering not even the fairy godmother in the primary version does practically nothing to help Donkeyskin.

[@tiffanymichaels2429]

And also doing what you need to do and sacrificing a prominent and prosperous life isn't always easy but it pays off in the end.

[@laliclaudesol2350]

I always thought the "three impossible dresses thing" meant that it was impossible for a fabric to match the natural changes of the sky, the moon and the sun: -The sky is ever changing, it's not always blue (sunset, dawn, stormy days, night skies, cloudy days...) -The Moon is constantly changing in her different phases and different colours like the Red moon or a lunar eclipse even. -Likewise, the Sun shifts its light during the day, it can appear golden or pearly or orange/red, and its light can shine differently... That's why I thought it would be impossible to make just a dress with each of these natural elements.

[@blackeyedsusan727]

No. It's really as simple as what he's described: textile making in the original era of these stories. Context is important.

[@saskialolita]

Same, in fact the versions I’ve read basically said as much (ie, _a dress woven out of yarn that sparkles as brilliantly as the stars, that glimmers and glistens as pearly/silver as the moon, that glows as bright & golden as the sun,_ etc….)

[@QueenBoadicea]

This impossibility as you describe is shown in the French film "Donkey Skin" with Delphine Seyreig and Catherine Deneuve. (I'm probably misspelling those names.) The dresses are displayed with startling special effects that stand up rather well to the test of time.

[@The1Dragonprincess]

That actually is in an interesting theory. I always thought it was due to the material and the construction for such color. Like the amount of silk, or even using actual gems, gold, or silver.

[@florencepierce1864]

Maybe not ... But I ❤ Love ❤ that & now, whenever I hear this story, or even the title - that's what I'm going to picture!

[@ABCD-rm5vo]

13:39 - "I'm pretty sure we just discovered the messed up origins of furries." *Zeus has entered the chat*

[@kibasorata5680]

Insert *And Along Came Zeus* meme

[@Shadowstar_Art]

Furries are around because of anime

[@Katsi7]

@@Shadowstar_Art not really

[@gonernotloner]

*women left the chat*

[@victorious.y5887]

To be honest when he said that it,kinda hurt.

[@taekwongurl]

"This last story is the most messed up one of the bunch." WHAT DO YOU MEAN WASN'T THE FIRST ONE AND THE BEAR STORY BAD ENOUGH?!?!?!?

[@fandomcake5158]

IDK man atleast nobody else died (except the animal dress). Last version, infanticide and an entire war was included.

[@MaggieOBrien-u1p]

Bear Version: 7/10 (Should have been more bear attacks)

[@Wolfbane382]

The Wolf Among us anyone? That's where I first heard about this story. Honestly had no idea it was a real fable though.

[@dejaypage1575]

Almost everything in Fables/Wolf Among Us are real fairy tales

[@Wolfbane382]

@@dejaypage1575 Ah. Very cool. ^^

[@KatieLHall-fy1hw]

Fables is a spectacular comic! It goes even farther than the game!

[@kryptid_mustard]

Same, I thought that was just in the game, guess I was wrong.

[@tijanamilenkovic3425]

@@dejaypage1575 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of these for Anime Explained series Code Geass Soul Eater Bleach Inuyasha My Bride Is A Mermaid Yu Yu Hakusho Ranma ½ Dragon Ball Naruto Shippuden Overlord Sword Art Online My Hero Academia Attack On Titan Tokyo Ghoul Shaman King Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba Jo Jo's Bizzare Adventures Sarazanmai Roses Of Versaille Sailor Moon Puella Magi Magica Madoka Yuki Yuna Is The Hero Pichi Pichi Mermaid Melody Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid Nadia The Secrets Of Blue Water Death Note Samurai Champloo Rosario + Vampire Kanokon Highschool D x D Senran Kagura Pom Poko My Neighbour Totoro Spirited Away Princess Mononoke So I Am A Spider, So What? Heaven's Design Team Petshop Of Horrors Beyblade Yu Gi Oh Digimon Pokemon Yo Kai Watch Bakugan Temtem Nexomon

[@1lobster]

Well, incest is a major taboo fore obvious reasons, so it makes sense that people have made lot’s of dark stories about how horrible it is.

[@thestarsburnedmysoul8575]

Idk, back in those times, incest was pretty common, especially among the royalty. Tho even then parents/children sexual relationships weren't most people's idea of happily ever after, I imagine.

[@1lobster]

@@thestarsburnedmysoul8575 the royals yes. They also did lodes of other things that peasants would get killed for. The church and the judges in the Middle Ages weren’t allowed to prosecute the royal family.

[@mymyhi9921]

@@1lobster just wow still the same as today

[@little_dandelion]

@@1lobster It hasn't changed. But it's gonna. These scumbags are gonna suffer the wrath of the Creator for their crimes against us!

[@Codeman22]

I don’t see anything wrong with it.

[@hanananah]

How is the moral not "don't try to commit incest". This one really deserves the VERY!

[@davidtucker9498]

Because anyone who WOULD commit incest will not be stopped by a fable. Better to focus on warning potential victims.

[@Linkfan88]

Another s tier would defiantly have to be 'The Children Who Played Slaughter.' It's an Brother's Grimm tale, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was based off a true event.

[@Griot-Guild]

That one was so fd up, but the juniper tree was worse imo

[@g.s.651]

Huh, and I thought Donkey Skin was an obscure tale, but I certainly knew about it before. Didn’t know about this one until now, though.

[@LostPeopleOfEarth158]

Huh, that one isn't in my copy of the complete collection. According to a quick google search since it was taken out for being too graphic. Funny considering Fitcher's Bird is still in there. The Juniper tree one was pretty messed up to.

[@dallasgrey4247]

I first read that story when I was 8 and that messed me up. I was afraid of playing with people, in fear we’d play butcher, and I’d be made the pig.

[@grapeshot]

I see that incest vibe, almost anime like. And even a little beastiality in the one-story. Yeah Disney would have a hard time with these ones.

[@fae69s]

naw, disney would just make her use a brown cloak with an animal friend on her back, and have the animal friend lead her to the prince in some way, before being killed off,. The dad would wanna kill her instead of screw her tho, and hed probably be taken in by gaurds at the end. never underestimate disney bro

[@gboi3500]

Heh, Anime had Beaststars, Disney has Zootopia

[@krisl6537]

If they can make stories like sun, moon and Talia aka sleeping beauty child friendly, I wouldn't be surprised if they could retell this story without traumatizing our kids 4 life!

[@TheMimiSard]

Meanwhile, Jim Henson already did it, though the impression I get from Wikipedia implies the Creature Shop was not part and parcel with the Muppets.

[@mistermack4987]

Whachoo mean? Their entire empire is built on these type of stories, they just whitewash/remix the facts to make them family friendly

[@YourFunkiness]

Having played Telltale Games' Fables story, I know where this one is going.

[@wendellcassio948]

Speaking of it, do you know if season 2 is going to happen and if yes, is there a date yet?

[@myafigs6065]

@@wendellcassio948 everything I heard makes it seems like it's in limbo . . . Especially with a show in the works 👀

[@marcmcdonnell6586]

I heard about that story from that video game too, give or take Fables that shows all of the European fairytale in our Mundane world.

[@4717-b7j]

A wolf among us?

[@tijanamilenkovic3425]

@@wendellcassio948 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of Puppy In My Pocket Adventures In Pocketville, Monster in my pocket or My Little Pony Friendship is Magic

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

This sounds more like the _exceedingly_ messed up origins of Donkey Skin.

[@swetuski]

I have a request for a story, when I was little my teacher told a story called (sorry if the title is wrong but from what I remember) ‘Flowers an Salamanders’ what I remember about the story was about two girls. Their mother spoiled one while abused the other. The abused one goes to fetch water and comes across a old woman begging for food. The girl gives her what little food she has and fetches the old woman water. The old woman was so taken by her kindness she said ‘Every time you speak may a beautiful flower or precious stone fall from your lips’ the girl doesn’t believe her at first but when she goes home to tell her story boom flowers and jewels fall from her mouth. The mother sends the spoiled one to get the same treatment but as you can guess that doesn’t happen. She insults and belittles the old lady and when she talks; salamanders and toads come out. That’s what I can remember, granted I learned this story in kindergarten, if your for it why not do this story? I just did a google search and found the story is called “Diamonds and Toads” well as I stated before I couldn’t remember the title just the plot

[@davidtucker9498]

The moral of the story: beat your children.

[@megancrager4397]

There's many versions from different cultures with the same teaching moment Edit: children encountering an old hag or something and depending in their treatment of her, determined what happened to each. Different stories and different endings, but the same moral

[@cherokeewolf6104]

Yeah. I've read one where instead of an old woman, it's a couple of dwarves. The nice girl has coins fall out of her mouth and her sister(s) has/have toads fall out of their mouth

[@swetuski]

@@cherokeewolf6104 so there are variations

[@AntediluvianRomance]

I know of two where the gifting being is some sort of a winter spirit and one where the being is a head. These are very wide-spread.

[@tigerqueen007]

This story was disturbing. Try doing The Red Shoes next!

[@jenniferschillig3768]

Yes, PLEASE. And Andersen's OTHER punish-a-girl-for-vanity-even-though-the-vainest-man-in-his-fairy-tales-gets-off-relatively-easily story, "The Girl Who Trod On A Loaf."

[@jennysomething3666]

The princes being depressed after seeing a pretty girl is a mood

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

They weren't depressed because of their beauty, they were depressed because they thought they'd never see them again.

[@sarahbellee.bradburn8760]

@@RedRoseSeptember22 understood, but to be fair, I get depressed looking at pretty girls too.

[@jeshuajacob5890]

@@sarahbellee.bradburn8760 that's a you problem mate

[@thiccmufffubberara-ara9834]

@@velocityraptor9270 maybe insecurity...?

[@WhitneyDahlin]

@@RedRoseSeptember22 I respectfully disagree. They were depressed because they could never have her. They were princes they could have any woman but the only woman they really wanted to marry was one they couldn't have. I think that's why that one guy mentioned in this comment section he gets depressed looking at pretty girls too because he knows he can never have them.

[@Weareone0518]

I wonder if we would ever get a “SoloPlays” so we can watch you play The Wolf Among Us

[@Lady_Chalk]

My mouth is stuck open in horror and disbelief.

[@virginiathomasakaicedragon6579]

Remember in The Co!or Purple when Oprah said what it was like to be the only girl in a house full of men and how she had to fight all the time.

[@taylors7061]

There’s an Egyptian folk tale called Juleidah that’s basically this story but with an anklet

[@EverythingEverywhereAllOver]

wgat are your resources? I feel this is very wrong. I have never heard of this.

[@m.z1256]

@@EverythingEverywhereAllOver In the middle of anywhere a king had a wife whom he loved and a daughter who was the light of his eyes. Before the princess reached womanhood, the queen grew ill and died. The king mourned for one year as he sat by her tomb. Eventually he called upon a matchmaker, and told her that he wished to marry again. He took the anklet from his deceased wife and told the matchmaker he would marry the foot the anklet fit. The matchmaker searched throughout the kingdom but found no single girl whom the anklet would fit. Finally, the anklet slipped onto a princess' foot. This princess agreed to marry the king without knowing who she was to marry.[2] The night before the wedding, the princess asked the minister's daughter why so much talk filled the palace. The princess bribed her with her golden bangle, so the minister's daughter told her that the bridegroom was her father. The princess turned pale then sent everyone away and escaped. She first went to the tanner's home and gave him a handful of gold. She requested him to make her a suit of leather from head to toe; she left when it was completed. In the morning to king entered the bridal chamber to find that the princess had left. Soldiers at every gate asked if she had seen the king's daughter and she replied: My name is Juleidah for my coat of skins My eyes are weak, my sight is dim My ears are deaf, I cannot hear I care for no one far or near Juleidah ran until she collapsed. She passed out and a slave girl noticed her. The slave girl called upon her queen to show her the great pile of leather outside of her palace. They asked her who she was and the princess said her refrain once more. She was invited to join the servants and slaves. The queen's son noticed her and wanted to ask her hand in marriage. He prince asked Juleidah where she was from and she replied that she was from the land of the paddles and the ladles so the prince decided to travel there. Without the prince noticing, Juleidah slipped his ring off his hand. At the palace, Juleidah wanted to help the cook but the cook was reluctant. Eventually she was given a piece of dough to shape and she placed the prince's ring inside of it. For the prince's trek, he was given the bread holding the ring. Once he discovered it he ordered everyone to turn back. The two wed shortly after. The king put the matchmaker in chains. He searched from city to city until he reached the city where Juleidah resided. When the king reached the palace, Juleidah invited them in. She gave them food and a place to stay. Juleidah revealed to her father that she was his daughter. After it was revealed that Juleidah was the princess, the matchmaker was thrown into a ravine. The king gifted Juleidah and the prince, half of the kingdom and they lived happily ever after.[3]

[@EverythingEverywhereAllOver]

@@m.z1256 yes, this is from Wikipedia. This is the only source I could find and I couldn't find a thing about the writer, and it's an American publication. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all nonsense and lies. This story doesn't have roots, and if it really exists, it definitely isn't Egyptian.

[@m.z1256]

@@EverythingEverywhereAllOver i kinda agree

[@celticpoet21]

There is an episode of Jim Henson's "The Storyteller" called "Sapsorrow" that mixes together and adapts elements of "All kinds of furs", "Doralice" and "Donkeyskin". How about the six swans/ravens story next?

[@TheMimiSard]

Word. That was where I heard the story there as well.

[@mizzstrawberryz123]

Me too, I was wondering if anybody else would have seen The Storyteller. As he talked, the scenes played in my head

[@jenniferschillig3768]

At least in that one, the king really isn't so keen on marrying his daughter, but the deathbed vow is sacred in his country and he feels bound by it. And by the end, he's kicked the bucket and isn't around to cause any more trouble.

[@plmitch]

I was just about to type it when I happened upon your comment...👍🏾

[@noelrobertson4968]

Same. I love Him Henson's 'Storyteller', and I love the story of Sapsorrow. That's why I was wondering if he was going to mention it, but this is better!

[@myriamcroteau7006]

Finally! You analysed Donkeyskin! I have the original Charles Perreault version. That story has been disturbing me since childhood. That and Blue beard. Not a lot of people know about Donkeyskin though... Wonder why that is? Ha ha ha!

[@develtedeltukeilachi]

There was a French movie about this tale with Catherine Deneuve, Peau d'Ane, I think is in KZbin with english subtitles. It's beautiful, I highly recommend it!

[@Hipsygirl]

"All Kinds of Fur" is also known as "Thousandfurs"

[@OkasiOtaku]

I would love to see more messed up origins of Japanese mythologies and Japanese urban legends because some of them are really messed up and tragic but are very intriguing. Also Donkeyskin's story sounds a lot like the real story of St Dymphna (patron saint of mental illness and incest victims). The difference between the two is that while Donkeyskin got a happy ending, Dymphna didn't.

[@georgetrevino3532]

No , let’s stay with Eastern Europe and Western European stories.

[@azraelwoods2029]

@@georgetrevino3532why not? asian folklore is so interesting and diverse with the amount of countries

[@tayloredwards4968]

I swear the first part of this fairytale it's absolutely creepy

[@aquaticcatfey]

I liked Deerskin, for reasons admittedly skewed heavily towards "sighthounds are awesome" and "Ossin is a cinnamon roll" and "Lissar is an iconic fictional survivor." That said: you are not wrong about it.

[@ItsHypnosXVI]

Haven't had a folklore explained in a minute

[@evelynnvernaz]

YAY! FINALLY! This has been the only tale I requested since you've covered already many stories so I'm so happy this video was made. I read this when I was a kid and always wondered how messed up it actually was since, you know, when I read it, it was part of a "children's book" so it was quite light XD

[@charlottesavage5966]

Donkey skin was my favourite short story as a kid lol, I remember preferring it over all the other fairy tales (It was one of the original stories too so idk if I just liked that it was dark / raw in comparison to the disney stuff I was exposed to)

[@tdfox4052]

Lol, same

[@JewishSeaslug7575]

He got me weak when he said “I know, no one skipped the ad right?”

[@omarjordan3357]

Yeah

[@sarahallegra6239]

Deerskin has been one of my two favorite books for two decades. I wouldn’t call it a snuff film fairytale, lol, but it certainly is dark. In fact, my dog, a sighthound, is named Lissar after the heroine. Thanks for covering it!! I was very excited to see it!

[@JenniferRodriquez]

When he said snuff film I immediately thought he's never read it because it is nowhere near that. Tragic and dark? Yes. Snuff film? No.

[@sarahallegra6239]

@@JenniferRodriquez Plus I’m pretty sure someone has to die and stay dead for it to even begin to qualify 😂 The dark tragedy in it is that it IS realistic. These things DO happen, which is why we’ve been writing stories about them since we could write. I’ve also heard some people describe it as a horror book, which I take issue with as well. It’s a book where some horrible things happen, but it’s ABOUT overcoming and healing from these very realistic scenarios. If you stripped away the fantasy setting, it’s a story far, far too common. The main “fantasy” element, I’ve always felt, is that she’s believed at the end, sigh.

[@aleiablake3377]

I somewhat knew this story as a kid by the title “Princess Furball”. More of a children’s version, she ran away because her father promised her hand to an ogre in exchange for wagons of silver. I think she hides the dresses in walnut shells. I loved the illustration.

[@jasperofthrones1310]

Ooh, a VERY messed up tale. This oughtta be good

[@RedDragon1175]

I’ve never heard of this tale…

[@greyworld6242]

Please do a messed up origins of the wizard of Oz!

[@pamelamays4186]

Suggestion: The messed up origin of Triton. I've seen him as an under sea king and the son of King Neptune on Spongebob Squarepants. He's also the official mascot of the University Of San Diego, located, of all places, San Diego, CA.

[@shannond1511]

I went to triton high school in runnemede, nj...

[@SlapstickGenius23]

There’s a Tezuka character who’s also called Triton.

[@literallybertram7786]

Read this one briefly for my College English class, Glad to see you offer some clarity because my stressed out brain could barely focus on how weird it was amidst the mass of other things I was doing 🤣

[@hodonyassin9760]

This has to be one of the most disturbing fairy tales ever!!

[@gwencote957]

Um... I know worse. :)

[@hodonyassin9760]

@@gwencote957 Really? Which ones?

[@gwencote957]

@@hodonyassin9760 They are Grimm's... emm... one with the evil goat, one with the cut-off hands, one with bad child, who was annoying, then dies, then was annoying in grave, so his mother must dig him off, punish him and take him back to the grave. And also grimm's Rampunzel is also worse then donkeyskin. (sorry for errors, my english is bad)

[@NoxAtlas]

@@gwencote957 The most disturbing for me is Sleeping Beauty. I mean the original tale. The princess was basically raped and impregnated while she was sleeping and when she woke up and searched for the father, the king's wife gets jealous, cooks the children and makes her husband eat them. And I think Sleeping Beauty was accused of being a witch and was sentenced to be burnt at the stake. European fairytales are just medieval torture porn

[@gwencote957]

@@NoxAtlas Oh I forgot her :) Yes. And blood, violence, death and another interesting thinks. Welcome to the fairytale! Don't step over path and make your weapons ready!

[@gabbyn978]

There is a french movie with Catherine Deneuve starring as Peau d' âne - Donkey Skin. Other names of this movies are Once Upon a Time or The Magic Donkey.

[@Foreverchris01]

Hi @Jon Solo. Can you do a messed up origins on the Greco-Roman history of Helen of Troy. We want to know the actual history since a lot say the movie was very inaccurate. Thank you

[@RedaDoodles]

What film are you referring to ? The one with Brad Pitt or the one with Rossana Podesta ?

[@Foreverchris01]

@@RedaDoodles Both. Though people said the latter was worse than the first.

[@princesszeldaprincess447]

Hi @ Jon-solo could you please do a video on a story called the princess and the goblins it was mine and my older sister’s favourite movie

[@blackeyedsusan727]

But we dont have a history. All we know is what was included in the poem of the Iliad and later interpretations of the same.

[@grapeshot]

Sounds like Rodger from American Dad, if he eats Mexican food he drops golden....

[@DniAngel3982]

I love your content. Keep slaving away sir. You brighten my meaningless existence.

[@crocodileranger8404]

Donkey: *poops gold* Kingdom: *see! the market regulates itself!*

[@MissLadyLupa]

I was introduced to Donkey Skin through the underrated Telltale Games The Wolf Among US. A game that I absolutely love.

[@Aisyah-xh9iy]

I had never heard of this story before

[@changminmybeloved3280]

I have been obsessed with this story called " the boy who drew cats" since I was 5. It was pretty much the first book I read and I still can't figure it out. My phobia of large spaces most likely started bc of that.

[@mrs.major_joe101]

My Thursday is so good rn, thank you Jon

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

Oh. I thought the *”Sky Dress”* was a brilliant “impossible task,” because the sky is constantly changing and never the same (plus she didn’t specify day, night, dusk, etc.) But ya I guess *BLUE* works too.😒

[@victoriathevictoria.]

That’s what I thought 😂

[@od3910]

I saw this in French class and every single one of us thought we were in a fever dream. They made a movie of this! It was a musical. The fairy god mother sang about how girls shouldn't sleep with their dad's. You know just to clear it up for her

[@itsyahomiescott3742]

“And don’t let your dad take interest, that’s incest!”🗣️🗣️🎶🎶🎶

[@stephanieleland8671]

Awesome video! The version of this story in Jim Henson’s Storyteller series was one of my favorites to watch as a kid. I had idea there were so many versions of it.

[@meghangrochow6353]

I don't know how I got here but 8 hours and an entire workday under my belt I can honestly say I'm glad! Your channel is so interesting through the variety of old lore.. thank you for all of your hard work sir!

[@pamelamays4186]

I'd like to see Disney try to clean up this story.

[@Mattiethekorbat]

I honestly don't think it would be that hard. They'd just turn the king into her godfather or a visiting king to tone down the incest... Without that, this could be a hundred other fairy tales.

[@RedaDoodles]

There’s already an animated film based on this. The king is bewitched by an evil sorceress and he becomes obsessed with his daughter.

[@4li3n.t.p]

A messed up origins to a story i never heard of. This is why i love this channel.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Fairy tales...every story is so messed up and Jon makes each more entertaining for us

[@weirdkitty07]

Last one seems like inspiration for Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Yeah, but I’ve read that the White Witch was based on the Snow Queen.

[@codybrewer9560]

I will never not love everytime Jon calls out people that skip his sponsored ads

[@itsthemackpack3784]

I just wanted to say that I had a semi bad day, and watching your videos instantly make me feel better. Pls keep doing what you are doing. Never think that you don’t help people. Besides, it’s educational, so that’s a plus.

[@theoryquery]

"Means it happened a lot in the past." Sadly it STILL happens a lot... (Estimations based on memory) 1/4 women will be assualted / abused in their life, 75% of the time it is a family member or friend of the family.

[@jenniferschillig3768]

That's interesting on why the dresses would have been so unusual/rare/expensive. The versions I've read have the dresses as: golden as the sun, silver as the moon, glittering as the stars. So I could imagine that dresses entirely out of cloth-of-gold or cloth-of-silver would be expensive to the point of impossibility, or one covered entirely in diamonds.

[@DoubleDealingDisarray]

I grew up on Grimm's Fairy Tales, so...yeah, Donkeyskin isn't a shock. ¬_¬

[@gwencote957]

Yes! I think we are practically immune to any fairytale shock :)

[@DoubleDealingDisarray]

@@gwencote957 I agree. X)

[@weebmerchdestroyedwallet-k1283]

One of the best part about your videos is the in-depth look into the details. Like how blue dye was uncommon and how these stories are so relatable at the time.

[@LuckyStone888]

10:22 who knew this theme was so common there is an actual category for it? ATU-510B is awful and I needed to pause to get myself ready for this. 13:50 Jon discusses the messed-up origin of Furries. Now that is a winning title.

[@Tribalfan88x]

One of the few creators where you just KNOW you will get a good educational video

[@Xebelan]

I think these stories were the Jerry Springer show of their day-- not beloved because they were common and relatable-- but because they were outrageous and made real problems feel smaller.

[@schaddly]

i first learned of Donkey-sking from playing the game, The Wolf Among Us, which is pretty awesome!

[@yungprodigy3371]

Earliest Iv ever been…keep it up Brodie🔥🔥

[@anib8863]

The version I grew up with was 'The princess with the golden star on her forehead'. It was pretty much 'All kinds of fur' except the king wanted to marry his daughter because she had a golden star on her forehead like her dead mother and she had a cloak made of mouse skins.

[@user-ey9uj6vp9s]

The french movie Peau D'ane is a cinematic masterpiece.

[@gwencote957]

Yes! Including helicopter! And, of course, Jean Marais.

[@my_little_danish_corner]

Jon as a mediaval reenactor, that show's how to make historical plantdye, i have to correct you. The blue wasn't so hard to get, there was a plant, woad or in latin Isatis tinctoria, in most of Europe that gives blue, but not the dark royal blue as many royals and virgin Mary is shown in, that came from indigo, that was imported.

[@nouridottcom]

JON IS DOING DONKEY SKIN, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!

[@mistydemorrow4955]

I remember reading a story similar to this about a princess being forced into an arranged marriage, so she requested four bridal gifts: A dress as shining as the sun, a dress as gleaming as the moon, and a dress as glittering as the stars, and a coat made from a thousand different animal furs. The rest of the story goes kind of similar too

[@sorawisteria5850]

There's actually a movie adaptation of Donkeyskin created by Jacques Demy, the same guy who made The Umbrellas of Cherbourg. ☂️🌂

[@candiigurl7893]

I missed Messed Up Folklore. Glad we got a new one this week!

[@firepoet6926]

This one is quite dark, but that’s something interesting about your content. It’s interesting how dark fairy tales were. Definitely an s tier.

[@jenniferschillig3768]

Well, the thing is...fairy tales weren't originally meant for children. They were entertainment in fashionable salons, which is where Perrault's and other French fairy tales got their start. And even by the time of the Grimms, when they were labeled as "children's and household tales," these were stories from a harsher time where illness and early death were common, so the stories often reflected this much harsher world. Stories reflect their tellers and the times they're told in, after all.

[@cricluexd4698]

"thanks for patience for that add since i know no one skipped it" *when u actually didn't cuz u were tired and/or doing something*

[@happyelvine]

I've never really deep-analyzed that story. I remember there was a film on it too and it didn't click at the time that it was a really bad story - I was too young. So for kids, there's the dresses, the prince, etc. For others, there's the immoral father that we all want to beat the s. out of, the condition of women that can be differently interpreted according to the time we're in. I think it's a very sad story and for nowadays if people read it, it might get them disgusted by it and maybe refrain from such behavior... Although I may be too wishful here.

[@MsMissme90]

YAAASSSS TO THE JON SHOT FIRST SHIRT!!!! It’s exactly what I asked for lol

[@dahliaharris311]

Random comment....Everytime i see the word "Donkey" I have to say it in Shrek's voice lol

[@nipslop]

I have a suggestion... game origins. Like video games, games like resident evil, hell even Minecraft. Where like u explain the games “motive” and story, and where the idea for it came from. I feel like that would be cool :)

[@richewilson6394]

They called this story sapsorrow in the Storyteller by Jim Henson Productions, they didn't have donkeyskin they had Feathers & Fur I guess. Then there was the Grimm's Fairy Tale classics by Sabon that had one that was called the coat with many colors which was kind of dark but it was good.

[@blabloojabun]

Tbh John I never skip your adds I’m always busy whilst this is on in my headphones keep up the good work always learning 👌👍🏻

[@andrejpopovic9732]

God am i the only one who had a cartoon of this on a CD. My childhood was destroyed when prince almoust died 😱

[@RosaliaMartinezRM]

As a kid I had a really good LP collection of fairytales...and this story was included in one of them, along with Bluebeard. Even then I felt those stories were way too dark, but as a child, I couldn't really grasp exactly how dark it really is. I think the watered down the incest part, but the killing of the donkey was quite gruesome.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

I read a more ‘kid-friendly’ version of DonkeySkin at like 7, I can’t remember the name of it - where, instead of it being her dad who wanted to marry her, he wanted to make some marriage alliance with an older neighbouring king- & she asks for various unusually made gowns, she gets all of them, & is kind of despairing- then asks for a cloak made from every kind of fur- & uses that to sneak out (with her fancy dresses- hidden in a case shaped like a golden walnut shell). She gets work at the kitchens of yet another neighbouring king- & learns he’s to throw a succession of balls for the noble maidens of the land, to find his bride. She goes to the ball, they dance, he’s attracted, blah, blah, blah. She leaves a short time later. Next day, she drops an earring in his food. There’s another ball- lather, rinse, repeat with another dress. His attraction has apparently increased, but she still returns to ‘that peasant life’... Next day, same deal. The other earring, this time. Third & final ball- she pulls out the finest of the dresses- & this third night, he’s apparently madly in love with her- yet she still goes back to the kitchens. Next day, the king goes to the kitchens, & sees her about to drop a ring into his meal- he proposes on the spot... I was only 12 when I read the **real** & uncensored version- I gotta say, I prefer the kid-friendly version of this tale...

[@blackeyedsusan727]

Thanks Jon for using your platform to highlight the very important topic of misogyny in yet another of its guises. Was really impressed with your conclusion for this video and thoughtful and erudite, and hopefully helping to open some minds.

[@josephcarvil9474]

Can you talk about Geryon form Greek Mythology next! 🙃

[@i_love_paganini]

Honestly at this point I’ve heard so much disgusting shit that I was like “yeah. This isn’t that bad”

[@theflash7688]

Do messed up origins of horror stories

[@saragirl1465]

I did not skip the ad. I simply let it play in the background while I texted and set my alarm for tmr.

[@tayloredwards4968]

The fur of a thousand coats there actually was an anime based on that version

[@gboi3500]

UwU???

[@tayloredwards4968]

Yeah there was actually an anime series that total lot of Brothers Grimm fairy tales and that's when I heard that version of the story

[@saphirefoxirl]

I remember reading this one as a kid but then I couldn't find it again no one else ever seemed to remember it. Thank you for reassuring me that I didn't just imagine it!

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

You can’t tell me Hansel and Gretel weren’t potheads

[@taekwongurl]

Nah, it was 2 desperate kids who were left abandoned in the woods. They did shrooms.

[@tijanamilenkovic3425]

@@taekwongurl what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of Gravity Falls

[@natalierocheleau1793]

You are my kid’s favorite you tube channel. Made him start checking out books about different myths. I really appreciate your content. Idk if that is your target audience but he is such a reader because of you! Thanks

[@JonSolo]

that makes me SO happy to hear! tell your son to keep on reading and learning new things and he'll be unstoppable! ᕦʕ •ᴥ•ʔᕤ

[@natalierocheleau1793]

@@JonSolo ok can’t wait to show him you replied!!! He will be in awe I’m sure!

[@grapeshot]

What after all that torture he didn't scream freedom???!!!!

[@sierrastanley3109]

I've only watched the Grimms Fairy Tale classics version; the coat of many colors

[@potato5413]

Wait a minute was it that bad I remember it being innocent.

[@Vivalarosa45]

This is my first time hearing about this fairytale. Interesting.

[@camillekcht8308]

I couldn't stop laughing when he said the messed up origines of furries 😂

[@leighfoulkes7297]

"Donkey Skin" was made into a movie by Jacques Demy (French). It's why I came across this video, I was looking it up (someone says it looks surreal and I've got to watch it).

[@cesarquijano94]

Disney made two movies about a girl falling in love with a beast. I'm sure incest in no problem

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

I guess not. The princess in this tale can be a Disney Princess.

[@cesarquijano94]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff definitely lol

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

@@cesarquijano94 Let’s go through her requirements: Is she human? Yes. Will she have a primary role in an animated film? Yes. Is she introduced in a sequel? No. Is she born royal? Yes. Does she MARRY royal? Yes. Does she perform an act of heroism? I’m not sure.

[@cesarquijano94]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff Well, technically she preforms an act of heroism by making the cake

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

@@cesarquijano94 Alright then. Since this day and age has MODERN fairy-tales, how would you modernise this fairy-tale for a Disney film?

[@BobRoss233]

Funny thing is, I've heard a variant of this fairytale by way of Jim Henson's The Storyteller. The tale was called Sapsarrow/Straggletag.