The VERY Messed Up Origins™ of Sweeney Todd (Part 1 of 3)

[@JonSolo]

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[@jenueledwards8786]

Pls do some Caribbean folklore

[@zionleach3001]

Can you do a video on samurai who fought Yokai. Like Watanabe no tsuna.

[@KenwrathKDK]

Hey jon just wanted to say i love your channel and have been a long time sub you are one of my inspirations an i always say" jon shot first" when i meet other johns lol

[@silvercrystalrose28]

Oh yes finally someone doesn't mess up origin of Sweeney Todd! I've seen a review of this from dead meat doing a kill count and it was amazing. And I'm not going to lie but one of my favorite songs is actually the worst guys in London song and the The Little Priest song. Those are the ones from the Johnny Depp version of the musical.

[@cheyenneherrera5]

I literally watched Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd yesterday. 👀

[@mistingwolf]

"Tim Burton'ed all over it" is such a great line.

[@qwertylool3349]

My favorite part was when he said "It's Timming time!" And then he Burton'ed all over the set.

[@multiverseman4017]

That really doesn't sound right

[@jazzinikki01]

😂😂😂

[@Heybudwatsurproblem]

Tim burtond = bloody evacuation of his nuts

[@xpkareem]

I'm totally okay with an hours long episode that covers every side story and detail of sweeny todd. Don't hold back bro.

[@magsyilden670]

Seconded wanna get this higher in the comment section

[@elizabethashley4490]

I would 10/10 watch that

[@jasminmchingy4539]

My thoughts too, like Go for it!

[@gwendellaugello7372]

Well you never got your wish :( I waited till all 3 parts were uploaded to get the experience you wanted

[@babydoes30]

If you speed up to 2x it’s only 30 minutes😂

[@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115]

I love the look that Gunther gives Jon when he kisses him. It is like Gunther is thinking, "I know that you feed and love me and all, but MUST you do that?" 😂🤣

[@swootyswaaty]

"How dare you kiss me mortal!"

[@TheMichaelStott]

In Burton's version Benjamin Barker was falsely convicted and sent to Australia. If he spent 15 years there he arrived in 1831 which meant he went to Port Jackson or to Western Australia. Besides convict gang work he might have been "employed" to work in a home but that was mostly reserved for female convicts. Punishment was usually 50 lashes with a cat o nine tails and many received 100, enough to leave no skin on a person's back. One Convict was recorded getting 300 lashes. No wonder his hair got that grey streak and he came back on Beast mode!

[@tiffanyscarborough2391]

right

[@josephwhittakeriii5462]

He went to Botany Bay

[@JonSolo]

To everyone commenting to tell me that Johnny Depp is a musician and plays guitar… I NEVER SAID OTHERWISE! 😂 I simply stated he is not a SINGER, which he’s not! Before Sweeney Todd he had never provided his own vocals for a performance. Look it up if you don’t believe me (like I did before writing this episode). The sheer number of people hearing what they want to just so they can comment “um akshully” is a bit disappointing… 🫥

[@TitanScream]

Well bro we got dumb dumbs in all walks of life. But providing these great critiques and comparisons to source material is a "higher" form of engagement. You make these for those who appreciate art examination. Not for those who just need mindless entertainment...is it harsh? Is it alienating? Jeez uz I hope so

[@bvillebikelady3651]

Unfortunately, the human race has become very bad at the art of listening. I didn't know Depp was a musician, but I'm not surprised.

[@mikeyfn-a6684]

It's all in the details...some seem to need them laid out . Another great vid sister..just like they all are. Honestly I feel like you and James A. Janisse (of YT Dead Meat fame) could totally pass for brothers. 💯👌

[@DEV-gz2eu]

Very good and spooky video. I was caught off guard by the whole "Tim Burton hates musicals" thing because he is associated with a few. I know that he did not make A Nightmare before Christmas, but he is always going to be associated with it and it's a musical, and so is Corpse Bride. Maybe he only hates live-action musicals? But why was he picked to direct the Dumbo remake and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Man his career has been almost as weird as his style, but it's hard not to like him.

[@Oturan20]

While Burton didn't make the movie "The Nightmare Before Christmas", he did write and illustrate the poem/picture-book that the movie was based on, so it being called "Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas" is more in line with adaptations of books that throw the author's name into the title like "Bram Stoker's Dracula" or "Mary Shelly's Frankenstein".

[@marmalade8915]

That's funny as hell cause i also always say i hate musicals but i love this one 😭

[@Aeonoftherift]

I feel this is one of Depp's best roles aside from his usual of Captain Jack. He covers as a monster and yet a villain, a tragic one at that. I find his singing charming and yet eerie, no silly nonsense and drunken stupor. True that Burton kinda did that on purpose, but despite him hating musicals, this actually worked.

[@tiffanyscarborough2391]

I agree. I love the music of Sweeny Todd. I love all the performances

[@anialutz9165]

This is the fast I’ve every clicked on a video. Thank you for doing Sweeney Todd. First Sondheim musical I ever listened to and my personal favorite. Can’t wait to learn more about the origins.

[@hnybee113]

BEST SONDHEIM MUSICAL. I've been in this production twice. Loved it!!!

[@anialutz9165]

@@hnybee113 who did you play?

[@worhtog]

Lmfao same I clicked IMMEDIATELY

[@TheGreenbaygurl]

You didn't see my happy clap or hear the squeal....

[@jenniferedwards4874]

Johnny Depp's first love is music. He fell into acting as a way to help pay bills while being in a band. He has always been a singer and guitarist.

[@brittanyschulman2609]

I was literally coming here to say the same thing. In fact, he still performs in a band with Alice Cooper called Hollywood Vampires.

[@JonSolo]

I never said he wasn’t a musician - I said he wasn’t a singer and he’s not. This was the first movie he sang in where his vocals weren’t dubbed over by a professional singer.

[@antonakesson]

"...when neither of them have ever sang before." That is what you said with no more info. So from your own words that doesn't sound like they never sang in a musical before, but that they have never sung before. You never said he wasn't a singer, you said he has never sung before.

[@aylawells921]

@@antonakesson yes because singing in a band is way different from singing in musical theatre so yes they haven’t sung before is correct because neither have backgrounds in musical theater

[@antonakesson]

@@aylawells921 "they haven’t sung before is correct" Is not correct. 'They never sang in a musical before' would have been correct. Those two sentences doesn't even a little mean the same thing. It feel like you are twisting a sentence with some intense backwards logic in order for it to make sense.

[@ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC]

The original version of the Stephen Sondheim music was meant more as a dark comedy than merely a story about somebody on a murderous rampage and seeking revenge. I remember watching the "Behind the Scenes" documentary about it from HBO (before greed consumed them via their streaming service), and Sondheim himself noticed right away that Tim Burton's film adaptation took advantage of graphically showing lots of blood.

[@Rabid.Jess.]

I actually liked the Burton version. The imagery and how color is used to demonstrate wealth and happiness was done really well. I'm gonna have to look up the Songhiem because I haven't heard of that until now

[@britanyhayes85]

That one is better in my opinion. Angela Lansbury kills it!

[@americaroleplayer]

Stephen Sondheim is a super famous composer known for fast, detailed lyrics.

[@samuelaugust4530]

sweeney todd is literally the best musical I have ever had the privalage of acting in during my school years and having one of my favorite KZbinrs covering it is amazing, absolutely cant wait for pt 2 !

[@CleoHarperReturns]

I have a beagle named Cooper. He was a rescue named Copper but my mom really hated that...although Cooper looks exactly like the dog from the Fox & the Hound. So she changed it to Cooper (after Anderson/Sheldon -- I know, I know). STILL, even though he's sitting right next to me, delicately snoring, my heart pounded a little when you said he was in an oven. I confess I'm a helicopter parent and I constantly worry someone will steal him. Because he really is that cute. Stay the f*ck away from my dog, Jon.

[@OUTTA-TYME88]

My sister in laws parents had a hound dog named Sheldon

[@CleoHarperReturns]

@@OUTTA-TYME88Aww! That's actually so funny that hound dogs are the namesakes of all things Cooper☺As long as no one names their dogs after D.B. they should be okay.

[@leobeboop4944]

5:18 in the Burton musical Mrs lovett says his crime was foolishness but it was probably kept vague because he didn't actually commit a crime

[@thathorrorguy1974]

My dad used to be a barber and right next to his chair was a big poster for Sweeney Todd

[@winterwine460]

I am so excited for this! Sweeney Todd was my FIRST favourite musical, thanks to my mom. We’re seeing it on Broadway in March and I feel like it’s an underrated musical/story overall. So glad you’re doing something for it

[@KERRYPIKE]

Sweeney todd himself is a very scary villain. And in the musical version of the Sweeney todd movie, it's very interesting that mrs lovett takes Toby in and tries to raise him as her own.

[@patriousthefallenknight3185]

Tim hated Musicals? why is the Nightmare before Christmas an instant classic though?!

[@Ethan_Blades]

Because while it was conceived and produced by Burton, it was actually directed by Henry Selick

[@shelbybayer200]

"but first sir, I think..... A shave." "The closest That I've ever gave !!" Famous lines in the musical

[@celticpoet21]

Awesome! Can't wait for part 2. There is a gothic horror show called "penny dreadful" that basically has all of your iconic figures of gothic/horror fiction (Dracula, Dr. Jekyll/Mr Hyde, the wolf man, Dorian Gray, witches, demons, Victor Frankenstein and his monster, etc). In one episode, there is a scene in a theater where they are rehearsing a play on Sweeney Todd.

[@a.t.m873]

RIP Stephen Sondheim and Angela Landsbury.

[@jenniferschillig3768]

"...how Tim Burton hates musicals..." I'm not surprised. The one thing that kept me from wholeheartedly enjoying the Burton version was the cuts to the script and score...namely, how all the choral parts were cut, which not only robbed us of "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd", but left "God, That's Good!" without any TITLE PHRASE. I've always thought that it seemed as if Burton was AFRAID of the fact that it's a musical...now this confirms it.

[@mohammadbashammakh]

Attend the tale of Sweeney Todd , his skin was pale and his eyes were odd, what happened next well that’s the tale , Jon wouldn’t want me to give it away

[@lucianonmarazzo436]

Not solo..not Jon Solo, the Demon youtube of Fleet Street!!!!!!!!

[@windywednesday4166]

It killed me that THE 'Sweeney Todd the Barber' song wasn't in the movie! I can't imagine what Tim Burton was thinking.

[@mohammadbashammakh]

@@windywednesday4166 it was at the beginning of the movie, but it was only instrumental without vocal performance

[@Justine-jp4fq]

Absolutely love it can't wait for part 2. Spooky season on the solo channel going hard.

[@breadcrumbhoarder]

Describing depp as burtons long lost son kills me

[@porcelina956]

I watched the musical on DVD RIP Angela Lansbury before the Tim Burton version. I appreciate them both as separate from each other

[@americaroleplayer]

The squeal of pure joy I gave out when learning you were covering this could not be replicated by a human.

[@jakenacinovich6947]

Great video as always! If you eventually cover jekyll and Hyde I'd love to hear you talk about the musical as well

[@Knight-of-Sarcasm]

Referring to Depp being able to sing--he had a band back when he was in 21 Jump Street. I had the cassette from the show and his song was amazing on the soundtrack.

[@MultiDani2020]

“He could have done the non musical version” 💀 interesting choice indeed

[@matchamelon330]

i’d also like to say that the “demon barber of fleet street,” was an actual duo in france. they worked together to both kill people and yes, put them in pies.

[@johntuttle2825]

Good and weird video, Jon. When I was younger, my parents would never let me see this movie or play either. Over the years, I realized why. I'm kind of glad they did not. Wild and bloody story! Thanks for explaining this story. I knew some things but not everything. Good grief! I thought Dracula and 13 Ghosts were wild. I'm glad no one does this these days. Good video. Happy Halloween, Jon! Take care.

[@Vampwatch1462]

There was also a film from the 30's with Sweeney Todd being played by an actor called Tod Slaughter.

[@windywednesday4166]

1936... thanks for the tip

[@bayonnetenor]

The first filmed version of the Sweeney Todd story was released in 1936 starring the appropriately named Todd Slaughter.

[@doorbox788]

my first thought when hearing the glasses maker Joana Oakley was the company

[@WeasleyGirl1767]

I have a Ph.D. in British Folklore, and "Sweeney Todd" is my favorite tale, HANDS DOWN! I'm delighted that you chose this subject for a video. Sondheim's musical rendition remains my second favorite Broadway musical of all time, and Angela Lansbury and Len Cariou were flawless. All I can say about the movie version is...Jesus, I wish Burton would give it a rest with Depp already.

[@windywednesday4166]

All I could say about the movie was how can you make Sweeney Todd the Barber... and leave out the Sweeney Todd the Barber song?

[@WeasleyGirl1767]

@@windywednesday4166, YES! I thought the same thing. They easily could have played it over the opening credits.

[@briansullivan5908]

always a pleasure seeing Gunther as a co-host.

[@Logged1n-i4p]

Okay, so just so you know Sweeney Todd, in the movie and musical adaptation, is actually an anti-villain. An anti-villain is a person with heroic goals or characteristics, but to achieve those goals they do very villainous things, the main difference between anti-villains and anti-heros is the moment when the end no longer justifies the means. If you want a classic example of an anti-villain is Magneto, his goal is to end the unfair treatment and horrible things done to mutants, but to get to this goal he does some extremely villainous things

[@jenueledwards8786]

Do some Caribbean folklore plssss

[@aprilwhitaker9806]

Also there is a non-musical version starring Ben Kingsley.

[@tegancory]

Can I just say, thank you, thank you, thank you, so much for making this video it’s made my month. Partly because Helena’s in it and you mentioned her witch made my excitement triple in one second because she’s my absolute favourite. Incredible video Jon I can’t wait for part 2.

[@johnson6099]

Now, my interest is through the roof! I've never seen nor heard of Sweeny Todd. The most surprising thing about this is character is there's no 2D Disney animated version. If the Hunchback of Notre Dame can exist, so can Sweeny Todd. Jon, shall we petition?

[@debymello4756]

Like they'd have guts to make a villian protag

[@grapeshot]

I remember going to see the movie and what I wasn't expecting that it was a musical. And I have a lot of trauma when it comes to musicals. Being young forced to watch The Sound of Music, South Pacific, Oklahoma etc. The only bright spot was Robin William's Popeye.

[@johnburnside7828]

Popeye is SO underrated!

[@grapeshot]

@@johnburnside7828 yes it is

[@aliddlebird]

...Trauma? 🤣

[@neonmajora8454]

​@@grapeshot I liked the sound of music but only watched it when I was 12. If I'd been younger could see being bored lol

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

Oh I feel your pain on South Pacific. I do love musicals, but that was a slug to get through.

[@countspankulots4024]

I love the look on people's face when I casually say "Do you know what my favourite musical is?" Then it all makes sense to them when I follow on with Sweeney Todd.

[@ElSings]

“The very messed up origins” uhhh but isn’t Sweeney Todd ALREADY about literally murdering people in the most visceral way ever💀

[@kelviannaepperson3677]

Jamie's singing of Johanna was beautiful

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

If this weren’t a musical, I don’t think I would like this film. I did not see the original performance on Broadway, but I did not find the performances bad on the film. They were pretty good. The actor who plays Anthony sends chills down my spine every time he sings Johanna. And Pretty Woman will always be my favorite song in it. I cannot talk badly about the singing in the film. I have seen way worse. And the film got me into the musical so that is not a bad thing.

[@gregwetzel2580]

My favorite song is "A Little Preist."

[@wintergoat6612]

Thank you so much for this ! Rest In Peace to Angela Lansbury 💖💖💖

[@vermiciousknid2456]

I remember on an episode of Mysteries at the Church they said in medieval times there was this meat pie shop across the street from the church where the priests would eat, but eventually it was discovered that the owners were making the pies with human flesh! Maybe that was the inspiration for the human pies?

[@austinminnick2764]

3 of your last 4 videos have been some of my favorites, I’ve been watching your channel since 17-18’ and it’s been awesome to see you keep growing 👍🏻

[@AnonYmous-ob7py]

Sweeney Todd is more like an anti-villain than an anti-hero. I don’t think anyone would consider him heroic

[@koivunen2489]

"He seldom laughed but he often smiled", a line from the stage musical explained (by Sweeney's scary laugh in the book).

[@lemoncherry2092]

I hoping this was going to be discussed because it's pretty dark and fitting for the spooky season.

[@justdanie7613]

I have never watched this movie, but now I need to

[@aprilchang1492]

Have you done a video on the Phantom of the Opera? I’d love to see it!

[@editating_2614]

He has

[@ultimateships]

This video series has gotten me to purchase the book, and having now finished it, what a masterpiece it was. It had me emotional at times, and so surprised and was even gasp worthy at the end of some chapters. Re-watching this video series, my, how good it feels to finish some details before you, as i now have finished the book, and know the story. An excellent read, indeed!

[@jeremyryan4085]

Dude I just went and seen a theater play of this today, got home and this notification popped up 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 so awesome seeing the play tonight

[@rebeccajean9634]

Not going to lie, I would love longer more in-depth videos. Getting to hear all your thoughts and the history of things like this would be awesome

[@jenniferschillig3768]

RIP to Dame Angela Lansbury, class act.

[@SoranotRoxas]

Oh look! Its the character that Johnny Depp should of got an Oscar for 😀. Seriously though, thanks for covering Sweeney Todd. I didn't know that much about the original Penny Dreadfuls until now.

[@theladyligeia1219]

Yes! I love Sweeney Todd! I even have The String of Pearls book! Thank you so much! 🌹

[@dylanking7785]

Johnny Depp does sing, when he first started his career he was trying to become a musician, and he is on tour right now performing with his band.

[@lucianonmarazzo436]

I love the Sweeney todd play so much I'm dressing up like him this year this video could not have come out at a more perfect time!!!!!!!!

[@paulaharrisbaca4851]

Best commentary I have found. I had no idea of the relationships between Carter and Burton. Honest to God.

[@DitaDike1993]

Time now -5:32 - morning. City near Baltic sea. 🔥👍 And best morning bell ever is ringing! Messed up origins. 🌞

[@JonSolo]

Gooood morning! Thanks for tuning in :D

[@DitaDike1993]

@@JonSolo 💪👏💯from 🇱🇻

[@ashartemis2126]

I've been requesting this for months!! Finally!

[@verybestandmilkyestcow4623]

I've been watching Jon for about a year-and a-half now but I haven't seen his videos in awhile. Coming back and seeing that his very messed up Origins title is trademarked now is crazy I'm so happy for him . He makes really good content and really deserves it.

[@yamisarkar91]

Loved the movie.... never know there was a book, so want to buy. Love to hear more stories like it.

[@benten2462]

When I was a wee, neurodivergent kid, I would fall asleep to the soundtrack of Sweeney Todd. It was the only thing I spent money on in the Apple store lol. The songs will always hold a special place in my heart; it was just right and beautifully dark enough when I needed it.

[@CeolDeamhan]

When HBC said there's no room to breathe the first Mrs. Lovett had asked about it, to which the reply was "I didn't write any place to breathe."

[@Athuwu]

Yess finally. We rewatched the movie recently in prep for this video and its finally here!!

[@Bisexualdragon4042]

For a moment I thought cooper was the saliors dog, and I was about to cry for the good boy.

[@alexandersean4708]

15:33 The fact that he didn’t say “popping people into pies” makes me sad. Great video, though!

[@cheesychi8317]

When you didn't even give him a name and just called him Peter Pettigrew I lost it. The second Harry Potter reference of the day

[@tonygoodwinjr9293]

Ok, you got me at the end with the dog named Copper part. I was like, WTF!

[@bgsenpai3737]

This is my favorite episode of all time

[@constipatedinsincity4424]

Don't forget that Sweeny Todd vest stage adaptation was led by the legendary Angela Lansbury 🌈🌈🌈🌠 The More You Know!

[@lifepawsandhoofbeats4080]

Yup RIP Dame Lansbury you will be missed, you wonderful actress that brought Mrs. Lovette to the stage, Jessica Fletcher to t.v. and was the og voice for Mrs. Potts

[@freedomcat]

Tim Burton and Johnny Depp are a dream pairing when it comes to working on movies: The Corpse Bride, Alice In Wonderland, Edward Scissorhands, Sleepy Hollow, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and Dark Shadows. AND BEETLEJUICE 2!

[@AngelinaNewbern2313]

I have to wait 7 DAYS?! Fine, I'll do it because I like you

[@erikarussell1142]

Dammit... you got us with a cliffhanger. **shakes hands at sky!!!**

[@glenjennett]

I remember watching the musical version on PBS years ago with Angela Lansbury as the female lead and I loved it. Yes, I'm old.

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

You’ve made my favorite stage play so much better, it’s cool to be able to glean context for the stories I’ve loved for years, thank you so much, this and the Thor video really guaranteed you’ve got a sub outta me

[@javodey]

"Attend the tale of Sweeney Todd... his skin was pale and his eye was odd... he shaved the faces of gentleman who never thereafter were heard of again... he trod a path that few have trod... did Sweeney Todd... the Demon Barber of Fleet Street."

[@Oceanstalker]

I feel your dog must really like hearing your stories, or just your voice. Either way it's very sweet.🥰

[@maryhigginsy]

Omg I love Sweeney Todd! I can’t wait to hear about the origin!

[@the_chubby_jedi9189]

That slow head turn that Gunther does will always bring a smile to my face

[@MsMestrella]

cliffhanger!!! Love it! I can't wait for part two!!

[@jmurphy95]

What a cliffhanger! Can't wait for part 2!

[@jessicajayes8326]

RIP to Angela Lansbury, the original Mrs. Lovett.

[@alexp.d3689]

I kinda find book Mr's Lovett kinda hot 🔥🤣 Also, wait,did Johanna In the book got locked up too ? What for ...? I just love how even Sweeney Todd,a dark as hell story has EVEN creepier origins ... I'm excited for part II

[@EstherHunt-p6d]

My attention was drifting because it's 3am and then I heard "com'mon up here" and immediately snapped to attention your cutiebug is doing his job

[@CantStayAway]

I love the Sweeney Todd music. Both the Angela Lansbury version and the Johnny Depp version. Once again, another fantastic analysis! Can't wait for part 2!!!!

[@G-mountain863]

You should do Spring Heeled Jack and it’s relation ship to Batman. Maybe next year or on Halloween… there’s still time

[@DoubleKay31]

Tim Burton did produce “The Nightmare Before Christmas” and that was a musical. Plus, in one of the featurettes, where Sondheim (R.I.P.) was interviewed, Burton had seen the musical.

[@lucasfleming9903]

Hey could you do a deep dive on Dia de los Muertos (Day of the Dead) soon. I always viewed it as a very fascinating holiday but I never knew it’s history 🤔

[@oniminikui]

I own and read the book (The Strings of Pearls). So very different from the play/film adaptation, and the play/film version is so much better.

[@jaqjynx]

Aw Hector is such a good boy. Hope he doesn’t end up in a pie.

[@EPShockley]

Terrific works! (All 3 vids on this subject.) BTW… I seem to recall seeing an English film version of the story, made in the early’30’s. (Sweeney played by the appropriately named, “Tod Slaughter”!) If memory serves, there were some pearls, but I just can’t recall exactly how, in the story. Keep up the great work!

[@scythe_shifter]

Im so glad people still remember these films, sometimes I feel like the only one.