4 years of Honkai's meta DPS compiled into a bar race - What did you miss?

After watching this done from another game I felt that I wanted to do it for Honkai since I'm familiar with how everything played out since the beginning. (Actually just since the release of SEA but they had temperature abyss from the start I believe). The chart is made with flourish if you want to make one yourself. flourish.studio/
If you're wondering how I decided the numbers, from the beginning the numbers were actually based on videos based on a 5-7ish second damage window, considered that abyss had multiple mobs to fight you can multiply that by around 6. The thing is, due to the temperature system mobs will also get stronger, and eventually when you consider things like MA, and the fact that mobbing is no longer an issue...
It's near impossible to actually do something like this with "accurate" numbers, so a lot of it after around CH release is scuffed and mostly symbolic. The point is to show what was found to be the best DPS valkyrie at that specific time/patch. It focuses much more on abyss, which is why you won't see dominance from valkyries such as VD, BB, or BN which would have topped the MA charts. But I put some consideration for MA so you could at least see them on there for a bit.
After the Superstring abyss came out, the valkyries rating/number is completely dependent on the amount of weathers they topped for that specific patch, with some bonuses based on the memorial bosses that showed up. We've reached a point in the game where Valkyries' strength can only determine so much - the strength of a valkyrie is moreso dependent on what weather Mihoyo delivers on that specific patch, so that's why you may see more drastic shifts there.
I decided to not include Haxxor Bunny's update since I haven't experienced it personally.
Most of the ancient clips are from the following bilibili channels:
1. space.bilibili.com/653768/video
2. space.bilibili.com/43222001/v...

[@haveagoodday7021]

Herrescher: Gets released Tier List: I AM SPEED

[@kyotheman69]

they all stayed up there except void who pretty much dropped off the map

[@Ghos1y]

@@kyotheman69 sadly bcz she is the oldest. Ohh well still waiting for her to be updated cz I love her

[@moonbyeol9130]

@@Ghos1y Same! I really love playstyle of Void. I'm playing HoR the most lately and I still don't know what I'm doing, but dmg is there so idc much. But I don't really enjoy playing this way. I want HoV back in the meta, she's my fav valk right after NS.

[@komi_san_luvcat2930]

@@kyotheman69 that because the drop rate for s rank valk at time was really horrible (although it not as bad as fgo)

[@DKOIsoul]

I still use hov so much regardless on what other people say. Idk what the meta is since I'm just playing who I enjoy. I'm officially a Bronie main now and instantly bought her outfit when it released. Hov's attacks look so cool anyway especially the snap.

[@godslayer5571]

Every Herrscher release- GAS GAS GAS!

[@kyotheman69]

except Void that basically bit the dust

[@Myanaa_Al-Ayman]

Bruh

[@rizkylazuardidarmawan2672]

@@kyotheman69 void takes the throne in her debut dude

[@lm1186]

@@kyotheman69 lol what?

[@pantydesigner]

@@kyotheman69 what do you mean?

[@eertikrux666]

Me *who never play honkai seriously and just spam random buttons* : interesting

[@ttt5205]

Let's be honest, you'd get quite far into the game by literally just doing that

[@eertikrux666]

@@ttt5205 true

[@tricellarrectangle8619]

Ah, someone I can relate to, cheers

[@bagusdoang1075]

random bullshit goo

[@OneFinalAutumn]

Yeah, I don't even read the skills. I just pick characters who look cool when they use their ult.

[@hershyijustshatmyself9253]

*Every DPS character introduction -* detailed and explained extremely well Dea Anchora:

[@CosmoOfTheKramers]

Fits in well with her bland personality lmao

[@TPixelAdventures]

BKE: *flops > MIHOYO WILL REMEMBER THIS Dea Anchora: ???????

[@ryanramadhan2116]

@@CosmoOfTheKramers basically a queen personality

[@TheHerrMan]

keeb hates DA for some reason, you can see it every time she comes up in his vids

[@sou.p]

@@TheHerrMan Because she's annoying, niche, Durandal has no personality to begin with, and people who don't want to waste their time on her's Rimestar scores are shit

[@maoriin7079]

I just love how when there's any herrecher character got released they're auto in first rank. 😂😂

[@arrowup8711]

To be fair, they're quite literally *gods*

[@chandrawardana6620]

Well if herrscher is not that good mihoyo wont get any money from us 😂😂😂

[@tastykimchiOFDOOM]

Mobage companies are able to control the meta to boost sales using whatever methods they can.

[@金獨子]

Lol same

[@naberu]

Isn't it that so you have to spend a lot, again, to build a fresh valkyrie to fit the new meta? It's a tried and true strategy to get more money, keep things fresh and add longevity to the game.

[@pakuro64]

The moment your favorite valk appear on the bottom of the list and you start "go little one, GOOOOOOO!" Then a new Herrscher is released and you never see your beloved valk again....

[@HienNguyen-in6rr]

that's hurt. I'm still love Sakura Memento a lot

[@pakuro64]

@BegissoR - Touhou Metal&EDM If I had to chose one thing I regret not doing on honkai, it is not leveling my asuka to SSS. She is so good and fun man :X

[@joshuamartin2069]

Unless you a Fu Hua fan, because Fu Hua will ALWAYS be meta

[@Narukami930]

Man, i remember when i started honkai on the 3.9 and when Durandal came out i struggled to get her, at the end of the day, i got her, all those crystal spent on her were so fucking worth.

[@pakuro64]

@BegissoR【東方Metal&EDM】 I "trashed" about 31k to get her full set, weapon and SS, so 12k for her SSS isnt that bad xD (It took a looong time to pull the stigma set :X)

[@chosan8250]

Everytime Mihoyo release new valk Mihoyo: i think i forgot something Player: if you forgot, then it wasn't important Mihoyo: yeah, you're right Kallen: *crying in the corner

[@butterflycheese8453]

Noo ;-;

[@Sakuramoch1__]

Liliya: wait, you guys have more than 1 battlesuit?

[@-qiqi-1579]

@@Sakuramoch1__ rozalya: wait, that exist?

[@cheesec4kecat]

Mihoyo gave ritual lmao kallen a buff

[@BrenoGF144]

@@-qiqi-1579 tbf it'd be hard to implement the twin's mechanics (combined combo/ult and their QTEs) while making new battlesuits for them

[@maoriin7079]

I have been playing honkai since the begining and I remember Yae was super popular character that time. And there's only Bronya, Kiana and Mei character that time. Wow time fly so fast.

[@hanekawayui5514]

I remember getting back to the game last year and was so lost because there was so much content that I missed.

[@TheHerrMan]

these characters are so 'spensive then 2 years later they give them out for free as new player rewards.

[@PanRobak.]

Wasn't there Himeko from the beginning as well?

[@feather563]

@@PanRobak. no but she was there for global when it released of china

[@succicucci]

Yeahhh Yae Miko with Void Blade + YA + Mjolnir. Also Missile stacking with VC with Schrodinger T and DXY M + SD was Meta too

[@ShiiTsuu]

Fuhua players: "ah yes, our girl is never disappointed us"

[@panjimartiandaru3081]

Yep, she never betray our trust ☺️👍🏼

[@icerink239]

true, our girl has never disappointed us.

[@charliezhang9815]

Have fun in Fuhua Impact 3rd, guys XD

[@solomu8772]

Fu Hua is not a girl. You guys are all confused.

[@rakafirmansyah1716]

Fu hua is f2p meta

[@vilongngo5529]

I miss those times when Gyakushinn Miko could solo clear the abyss

[@TheHerrMan]

holding my breath for her PRI and Augment to restore the glory. I still have her OG exclusive black outfit

[@referencepoint1042]

@@TheHerrMan She is getting pri and augment confirmed ?

[@witchluisamultifandom1212]

@@TheHerrMan So? Where augment

[@TheHerrMan]

@@witchluisamultifandom1212 I know right!!!

[@mayoofm6049]

one of my fav valk back then

[@Rasti__]

Did I just see Judah listed as it's own character? ... 10/10, clearly perfectly accurate list.

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

Judah is the strongest valkyrie there is after all o7

[@damn1580]

I mean Valkryie Pledge isn't even a Valk without Judah right?

[@superfuzzball]

I'm so used to it, I didn't even bat an eye until I saw your comment

[@Force200888]

Same here, I want to laugh at this joke but then I realize it is too accurate to laugh at...

[@blank3764]

@@damn1580 wym VP was the judah support lmao

[@anapaulapedro7025]

The way every Herrscher is meta except for HoV 😭 poor Kiana

[@anapaulapedro7025]

I guess now the new bonus for ranged characters give her a leg up

[@myatthu7165]

Well,after completely eating the entire game meta for half a year and making half of all f2p players completely rage quit the game,I think she pretty much deserves it.

[@ihavenoidea4317]

@@foreverunnoticed5351 bruh she's still op af wdym buff her up

[@SomsoKca]

Poor Himiko!

[@ihavenoidea4317]

@@farzbz987 Today's meta is pulverizing bosses in 0.1 seconds.

[@gilgameshlfx7006]

What we learn from this? Every OP character from new release will be nerfed to the point they are useless, in order to sell more gacha. The end?

[@SM-cq1mm]

And then a few months later they get buffed to the point where they become broken and then Mihoyo releases more power creep material that makes the newly broken characters, redundant

[@nurhariyanto5438]

@@SM-cq1mm : ehem.. abyss flower.. cough..

[@PanRobak.]

That's called powercreep. And gacha isn't the only area where it's prevalent.

[@mapmakerlich]

Or stay alive even after breaking half of his kit. *looks on Angra Mainyu in Dx2?

[@coolossooloc9358]

Really sad but they're not useless

[@valentinodelapena7699]

I miss that HoV supremacy. now we're second class citizens. they even gave her out for free knowing nothing would change

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

I still use my HoV a lot. I'm also keenly aware that I'll never retain in RL and have accepted that I usually stay in Agony2/3.

[@oblivion9584]

I love her design and personality almost as much as I love her playstyle so even if I might have better characters she is not getting put on the sidelines ever.

[@francis771]

ive been playing since theresa release, and i can tell you because of hov the game became so unbalanced where no hov requires good luck to avoid certain groups of people in red lotus. I hope mihoyo will never create such an unbalanced meta ever again, that was one of the worst experience.

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

@@oblivion9584 HoV is just so ridiculously simple, I love it. I don't need to remember an entire tekken combo unlike for Delta.

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

@@francis771 I think miHoYo will always fail to fairly balance the game. Look at Delta and HoT.

[@joestarjoestar1020]

Let us all appreciate the amount of effort that went into this video. All the research done and adding the correct music and audio clips at the appropriate time. Great work man. I really enjoyed this. I'm subscribing to this channel.

[@findingjapanartist9836]

It really is The music is so pair up with HK game itself and the char voice with cuts scene plus a lot of HK history written in less than 10 minutes Parfecto videou

[@reapervalentin9167]

So Much History In One Video...

[@zargonan]

Every good meta was a fu hua meta. The only valk that could knock ns out of the meta was an even stronger hua.

[@minhucpham1915]

Same go for Phoenix as a elemental supporter. At this moment the 2 most important valks are AE and HoS. Fu Hua impact going strong

[@raiden1889]

Well what did u expect she is a Chinese Theme Valk, if she were weaker than any Valks the CN players will riot.🤷🏻‍♂️ my opinion is based on the “current situation”

[@joshuamartin2069]

To be fair, Mihoyo's handling of Fu Hua's power in the game is great. She is a great example of how to handle a fan favoriete character. She's always meta, has her perks and can always be depended on in a pinch.

[@adielpratapahandoko6204]

@@raiden1889 ngl that statement is kinda racist.

[@xLycorus]

@@adielpratapahandoko6204 not when it's completely true, just look at the ridiculous drama the chinese players created on honkai and genshin

[@taihuynhanh1332]

This brought back a lot of memories actually...

[@dankerdoens8414]

Ahh.... that hard days :)

[@taihuynhanh1332]

Also so much fun~

[@hello_MeNutty]

I cant believe I actually havent missed that much since I started playing one patch before HoV's first release.

[@denzelgonzales3854]

I hope they bring back the bleed mechanic (like the very first abyss) Right now, the gameplay in lv 81+ is just about strong dps. Doesn't even require that much brain cells. You just need a very OP valk and then you good to go.

[@taihuynhanh1332]

@@denzelgonzales3854 i agree, but abyss is made based on meta, so f2p people have to find a way to survive, that's cost brain cells too~

[@Theetis]

the fact that the A-rank Seele has been always performing better than Stygian Nymph, a newer S-rank... shit's wild man

[@ئەنیمێ]

Might be because she's easier to obtain like crazily easier. But yes A rank Seele is insane.

[@Neji4230]

Kinda funny to see how SP was almost always over SN in the leaderbord

[@ultimate1450]

because this is mostly about abyss which means mobbing, SN is more bossing oriented, if it was MA she would be over SP by a huge margin

[@nagaito10]

It bis because SN is one shot valk made for mobs and MA SN needed rotations for abyss boss But now with PtA Pri arm she can handle RL physical/ quantum bosses

[@amplesstratleholm7609]

SP also has a ridiculous passive that is bonus damage if the target is impaired, on top of the impair itself, so as long as you can get past the SP requirement (Dirac B), it's gucci

[@Neji4230]

@@ultimate1450 Ah yeah, i forgot i wasn't able to read the text he left for like 20s at the beggining of the videos, silly me.... Dude, I know it was an Abyss oriented leaderboard lmao, I'm not the brightest guy on earth but I know at least how to read xD

[@aldyzero6676]

@@amplesstratleholm7609 yeah, full build SP is rediculously strong when she pop her burst mode

[@eccliasse9861]

Everyone: *supporting herrschers* Me: Go! Judah Go!

[@e.bthepirate9783]

And to this day, Herrscher of Sentience still haunts the meta

[@sentiiscoolthenyou5493]

Yet they will never buff hov again

[@mcccgsjhc]

Wait till new physical support and see what will happen to her

[@giunnie1206]

@@mcccgsjhc she still on top meta, Susannah can do nothing lmao Yatta always is the Meta

[@e-mk1fy]

@@mcccgsjhc SEELE IS NOW HERRSCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mcccgsjhc]

@@giunnie1206 i said a support not dps🗿

[@michaellim2509]

every choice you have made, has led you to this moment

[@chaule3076]

I think this game is not Honkai Impact anymore, is Fu Hua impact Our girl never disappointed us

[@justagoreinabox4434]

Agreed

[@silent_takedown8216]

I just love how Fu Hua punches those mobs

[@alextabrett267]

Fu Hua for life

[@water_elemental]

Ikr

[@littlelw319]

i think you mean nationalism impact.

[@heisamonster]

Wow, watching Vermillion Knight rise through the rank to challenge HotV was such a call back to the story. Great content, brought back nice memories. This game was and is fantastic.

[@gneuis]

never let you go

[@cacti5668]

@@gneuis PTSD intensifies

[@vorlun2594]

Me never caring about meta or even any mats since day 1 and just learned all the info from KZbin since mid 2020 Oh boy how wrong I've been playing the game

[@d1ac0de]

please i can relate to this so much. i've been playing honkai for almost 3 years now and it was only LAST YEAR i found out that just because it's a 5 star stigmata, it doesn't mean it's the right one for the valk-

[@1stDRAGonLINE]

Been there dude play from day 1 up until hov is out and DP still my main go to valk for support and heal.

[@MeiButterfly]

same, i just use my own combi/meta/gut feel to play this game. never looked up on meta or DPS unless i desperately need a method to clear a quest for event currency :(

[@IchCharacter]

You've been playing it the only right way, since this game is designed like a casino when it comes to the pvp stuff, drawing in poor sods that will become addicted and spend hundreds upon thousands of dollars, euros or whatever on it. The rewards for following the meta in terms of crystals for months can be earned in a few hours at work, but it takes a few hundred hours of work to pull all of the meta crap.

[@frozenyukimori]

It makes me happy to see Seele in the list lol, she's the main reason why I keep going back in the game and she carries me pretty much on the events. I quit a long time ago but came back after it was announced that she's coming in the game and she's given out for free. Now I came back again just a few days ago after I learnt Starcasm Nyx and chapter 23 which primarily focuses on Seele/Veliona will be released. SP is probably the valkyrie I put my most love and attention to and second is Yae's Miko But damn I was really happy when I somehow got HoR on the dorm supply thing when I returned in the game. SP is finally reunited with her Bronya-Onee-sama UwU

[@nobetaaa]

how do u feel about horb and the salt snow holy city arc that was centered on her and veliona

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

Man, remember when Mei was loved and Himeko was viable..

[@gesmonds2330]

I still use Bladestrike/Stygian Nymph(depends on enemy) as main dps and starlit and shadow dash(augment) for her support. Still love Mei!

[@gesmonds2330]

blood rose was too op that time,she was my first S unit

[@Sixon6845]

I'm still using BR and VK until now but holy hell, it's hard to sustain in the abyss with BR Good thing is BR still rocks in coop

[@TheHerrMan]

i was surprised af to see VT that high. was just mashing then

[@sparking023]

It was all nice and good until HoV appeared. Lore checks out

[@zeroreroneppudding402]

Even to this day, Herrschers of Tuna is still the longest standing Meta in Honkai. Nearly a whole year unequal

[@cyberpheonix1440]

That's a bit scary how everything improved and how often meta was changing...I think I would never keep up with others so I will stay with my hor until they add another story where put her in hopeless situation AGAIN;_;

[@aldyzero6676]

f2p and dolphins are always struggling to keep up with the meta, meta basically says "spend money or go die u freebies".

[@mrluthfians01]

tbh if you are comfy with agony and red lotus you should be fine, i skipped 10 patch cuz my phone cant handle it back then, now i cam still survive agony and rl

[@pugachan9928]

Wait until we get Herscher of Fire Himeko and everything gets fucked over again.

[@samuelelias5115]

I love Himeko so I would love that to happen, but I think Seele next herrshy

[@hanna-rb8nh]

@@samuelelias5115 that would be unlikely rn ig? since starcasm nyx will be release on 4.8

[@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904]

@@hanna-rb8nh who knows... chapter 24 implies that there's a chance that Seele would awaken as a Herrscher...

[@kaz7690]

As much as Himekos death was heartbreaking, I feel there’s little reason to bring her back. That would essentially reverse 99% of Kianas development as of so far. Kiana’s character has been brilliant so far, I hope Himeko’s death will continue being a motivation for her journey.

[@judgement7007]

Himeko will return as the Herscherr of Destruction/Decimation because her battle suit, Vermillion knight: Eclipse, is a Divine key equipped with the core of Destruction which is the core of the Herscherr of Destruction of the Previous Era. Himeko will somehow receive the memories of the Himeko of the previous Era and will let the New Era Himeko control her new Herscherr powers.

[@DashSlasher901]

great video, love how you putted all in and with the music

[@youyoumu]

It's very interesting because i started playing at SN patch and this video telling me what's happened in the past

[@Dragvon]

Now make a Support one and show CH's pinned at the top until HS hahaha

[@fabbae215]

Man I always chuckle when people are making tier lists placing CH in her own tier called "CH tier"

[@roissidiq672]

And then ch still usefull even hos comes, and she can duet with hos

[@IchCharacter]

You mean the Fu Hua/Bronya tier list, featuring CH and FR?

[@eiarsan]

You know you're an ancient player if you know how to execute Gyakushinn Miko's ulti properly.

[@gesmonds2330]

3 slash pause 3 slash pause am i right? Edit: realized you are otto,, and i still hate you for everything that has happened to the girls

[@eiarsan]

@@gesmonds2330 guess what? I still have the real Kiana in my basement.

[@gesmonds2330]

@@eiarsan i know damnit hahahaha

[@Jannat-hw3zu]

@@eiarsan Let her out you simp >:(

[@TheHerrMan]

@@gesmonds2330 you better get her Sak Blossom and do it in 2

[@RbNoLife]

I know this was meant for entertainment but it was super bittersweet for me. Seeing how much we’ve experienced as a player base really makes you appreciate these eras more. Something about hearing Edict of Twilight play for some reason hit my feels lmao I’m not sure why. Great video dude, this was a fun watch.

[@TheKeebster]

Yeah listening back to the song it really became my favorite song from all the trailers, v3.4 was a very good time.

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

honestly it's helped me appreciate miHoYo for their valkyrie designs. Some are downright broken, sure, but we've come such a long way since B rank Bronya, Mei and Kiana.

[@RbNoLife]

The entire 3.0-3.9 time in Honkai was awesome. It makes me wish I played even more when I remember I never finished some of those events. Personally, my favorite patch was 3.5 I remember being online constantly during that point

[@justpassingbye]

@@RbNoLife same. the kevin introduction era was so cool

[@kazunoee]

Starchasm and HoS: We are supreme Flame herrscher Kiana: Not so fast

[@noot_noot23467]

she might be the first herrscher to be able to fight airborne

[@903IDFOLEY]

"Mihoyo will remember this!" Coming over from GI Eula's new trailer video, I somehow find these words bloody hilarious.

[@arx48]

ikr. how long do you think she'll stay at the top of the lists?

[@adameddleman]

I saw this video before I broke through. Now a year and a half later I've seen you in Nirvana a handful of times and I knew every time you'd top the bracket, but I thought it was fucking awesome seeing you there. Keep it up dude.

[@florensyne]

This is a really cool insight into why some valks are in certain places in various suggestion threads or 'tier lists' based on time made. Thanks for the hard work!

[@PaeP3nguin]

Oh man, the memories. Great throwback video Keeby!

[@Albevibin]

Genshin impact players: *What are these?*

[@ranni9536]

Honkai Players: These were the old days...

[@Ken-df8cp]

Well duh, this is a completely different meta

[@butterflycheese8453]

Me who's now both users Ah yes, I now understand these 2 impacts

[@-qiqi-1579]

@@butterflycheese8453 X2 we are powerfull

[@ashy5808]

You mean Ganyu/Venti Impact players?? In genshin the only meta character who can never be powercreeped is BOUKEN DA BOUKEN

[@phanidaj3498]

The amount of efforts that were put into this video is insane! Thank you keebs we really appreciate it!

[@dorkily]

I have a real appreciation for these types of videos. It's so interesting to see how the meta of a game has evolved throughout its lifetime

[@rayyifrasya1100]

Keeb should make the newest video of this

[@Ikuruu]

Man the nostalgia in this is just... So nice

[@GiTWMe]

After HoT release , everything is become very crazy competitive 🙂

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

I began playing around the time Global was released (not on the actual release but a few months later) and honestly the pvp side of honkai has always been ridiculously competitive. In the days when Snowy was the king, it was almost a must to have her decked out just to retain in the lower parts of Agony because of the amount of people that couldn't retain RL on a weekly basis. Especially once you broke out of level 69 and into level 70. Like holy shit. But fond memories, nonetheless.

[@Chironexe]

Herrscher of Teeth

[@VanDungLe2510]

Did... Did he... Did you just... release like... 3 videos in the span of 24hours... after you've gone for almost a months??

[@Jyxero]

Fu Hua and Bronya always has been a great help for me... No wonder why they're among my top favorites (DB augment core soon?) As a cap that started on CH & Sakitama patch, I have to say the road has been long but joyful, even those times where I got killed by bleeding, cause even if it isn't a pleasant one, it will be one more memory for me of this outstanding game And thanks for those unexpected clears that I did cause of your guides, like Liliya or Base SS Bronya

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

crossing my fingers for more diverse Bronya and Fu Hua meta.

[@healiaquastar]

This is super interesting afhsjk I first started playing around the game release but quit some time in 2017. When I got back into the game this month I was so lost on where all these new characters/battlesuits came from lmaooo

[@Kodla]

WHOAA awesome vid! :D loved to see how the meta changed from the start of the game :3

[@nutella7644]

i only started playing hi3 in mid-2018 and its already so nostalgic to see the different eras and moments hi3 went through

[@fegito9206]

Mihoyo is like: "hey, you want stay competitive? purchase our new features" Oh yeah, v3.5 trailer bgm still banger

[@raidentatsunoko]

Dude that v3.5 theme is super good. V4.6 is also good

[@Narukami930]

Whats the one at 4:38?

[@haziq5943]

@@Narukami930 Theresa's theme for TP release

[@Narukami930]

@@haziq5943 thx m8

[@ok-ij8rk]

i fucking love this. thank you so much for making this video it made me so nostalgic ❤️

[@kwonza-gamingandanime5727]

Honestly, I was such a new player when HoS came out that I would have never rolled for her at the time if it wasn't for Keeb's video on her. Game has been easy mode ever since and I very much appreciate how I don't have to struggle against a lot of content that would otherwise be very difficult without a big main dps.

[@S4ND55]

Alright I came back on this video and damn the goosebumps on the beatdrops and perfect entries of the dialogue made this video so much better

[@hardstones17]

I hope to see something like this for genshins yearly marks! its always amusing seeing how the meta can shift and also the trend of when power creeps happen possibly.

[@jabermogwai5996]

Yeah, but maybe it will be dificult because genshin dont have any leaderboard, like in honkai we know what valk be in meta from top score on every boss, but in GI the only "competitive" content is abbys and it doesnt show how good that unit is because we dont even know the exact score, team comp, or even the clearing time, i hope mihoyo make any other end game content for player at ar55+ , because rightnow abbys is feels like a joke. Sorry my english is bad, i hope you understant what am i trying to say. Have a nice day.

[@louisaniathemagnificent8246]

I doubt we will have anything like that soon. Meta isn’t important in Genshin, nor is there a ranking system where you get better rewards with higher scores and you “compete” with other players. The spiral abyss is just extra content for you to basically see how strong your teams can be, but you won’t be rewarded for getting higher scores nor can you see other players' scores.

[@lumilight4242]

Well as for Genshin the abyss and viability shifts are not as prominent, Ganyu and Zhongli have never really gone up or down in usage. Genshin is a single player experience, so not much way to compare, so making something like this would be very hard (and also quite monotone)

[@jabermogwai5996]

@@lumilight4242 also it will get so much hate and controversies because genshin community doesnt really like tierlist or any form of character ranking

[@user-vr8qd4hk6y]

Even if Genshin is much different, still I would love to see a video about META changes, just adjusted to Genhin's nature.

[@sudozax7cdyuukishio305]

No matter what happen, Momento always be my dps since her release.

[@TheHerrMan]

grinding Meme to SSS since launch. 5 months left. my fav blue ele character

[@user-bx9fv3uw8m]

I started playing few months ago, and Memento was first who dropped from dorm wishes. Also Haxxor banner was in place + I got a lot of Meme pieces from beginner eggs.. so now she is SS and with Haxxor doing pretty fine for me. I guess real game starts at 80+ level and then it will be gg for her >< anyway, when ice is not in disfavored position, she keeps me in RedLotus/0.1%, absolutely love her. (level68 currently)

[@599ferrari]

OMG keebster, this is absolutely brilliant video. U outdid urself mate. *Standing ovation👏👏👏

[@LushyViper]

really great work. Nostalgia of 4 years of preparing and adjusting to the meta

[@okularnik125]

Interesting fact. Global server speed run first 2 years of Honkai CN in 8 months

[@zehel1058]

that's how western servers do business and then shutdown early. rather play at the main server

[@mangosi5181]

Oh man the nostalgia is heavy, I remember flexing my built DB and Snowy back in the day

[@vidmaniacz]

me to or the days of old armada boss with the three man coop

[@ldz771]

All your life has led you to this moment - Kindred btw you made a amazing mash-up of PV BGM for this video, I enjoyed it very much

[@akkoasakura445]

Awesome vid! Is very insteresting for a captain who start playing on 4.1 the progression of the game over the years

[@unknownx8164]

1:28 that entrance XD. Judah supremacy

[@r._.l]

HoV still has a special place in my heart even though she’s basically the only herrscher that isn’t fully in the meta 💔

[@panjimartiandaru3081]

So much feels... Thank you for the memory trips!

[@Skonces]

i’m a new player who just started a month ago. it’s good to see the history of the game like this. i hope that in a few years i can look back on the current meta with all of you and celebrate how far we’ve come.

[@redwindup]

i'm a new player (started at the end of 2020/2021), pretty much started when they gave out the free HoV. she's currently my strongest valk and the one i enjoy playing the most. i like the quick ranged hits, and the fact she can attack while moving. to hear that she was strongest at some point is mindblowing. i wish i was around for her prime

[@eytche9066]

Walking thru the memory lane is insane, came back from playing Honkai during HoV’s patch although started playing around Feb 2018. Wow, in a span of TEN months a lot has changed damn. Kudos to MiHoYo!

[@trietvo1915]

Bravo for a greatly invested work!

[@Adrian_888]

Awesome video! It's been a year and I'd love to see a follow-up of this bar race! =D

[@toninomatalone7323]

Looking at this video made me think a lot about genshin impact. I started playing when HoT got released so i missed a lot of these changes, yet i can see that valkyries go back and forth in the meta, i wonder if that would be the case in the future (because since the release of HoT everything seem to be gravitating just torward the new valks) and if that will happen to genshin too, contemplating the idea of new game modes and features that might be added/removed/modified/buffed/nerfed etc.

[@milhouseburns]

lmao, i remember getting Judah just when it became obsolete in the meta, like i just started playing HI3 when it still dominated MA and Abyss, but got it when its power was already gone

[@brianjroth27]

As a new player join HK3, I loved seeing the phases of the meta shift in this vid. Hope it gets an update in a years time or so! Well done!

[@TheLimD]

Thank you Keeb, amazing video

[@CrystalNova_HI]

Very great video.

[@scarredwitch9599]

And I'm still here waiting SS buff to dominate the meta again. My first day on hyperion was on gyakushin and goushinso release. And unfortunately I didn't get Memento but I get miko who was surprisingly good in abyss then I started to use ss and she brings me to another level ! Yamabuki and Ranger was my first support back in the time. Mihoyo must buff SS !!!

[@razgrizseele2171]

Been playing since day one on china and later global. What a trip down memory lane that one was. Thank you!

[@Abremoch]

Very high quality video and very informative!!!

[@angelignaciolaraquen4000]

veteran players: smells of history

[@kianaidioka8487]

Why do I feel old while watching this video

[@fenrysk]

great to learn the old meta from pre-3.5. I came back to the game at the end of 3.5 and didn't hit exalted till 3.8-3.9. what a crazy ride it's been since.

[@impera8776]

Man its crazy how things can change in 1 year I'll be interesting to see an updated version of this

[@DarkVortexSoul]

4.5 Acheron PRI release Mihoyo expect : SN rises Reality : SP rises and SN gone from chart SN : yeay my PRI, time to meta SP : "our" PRI

[@WindDevil1]

do you think using SP with acheron pri is better than the other scythe made for SP? if so, i might as well make a second copy and not gacha for the other one

[@DarkVortexSoul]

@@WindDevil1 for the other one do you mean undine? PRI acheron is better than undine because the attack gap between 6 star and 5 star is so huge, like +100 atk difference

[@WindDevil1]

@@DarkVortexSoul that makes sense ... now i'm imagining myself making a 2nd acheron and then there's a undine pri hahaha oh well, if i make a 2nd acheron i just won't bother gacha for undine, so that's a bonus

[@roissidiq672]

Hahaha you are right

[@joeharry1633]

@Vincent Helix Mind to enlighten me why SN is inferior to SP? I feel betrayed when I struggled so much just to get SN full set when SP is greater than her...

[@patrickmendoza3210]

We need a new video on this

[@kaijudozero]

I love this video. Please do one from the end of this video til now :)

[@herrscherkiller3432]

Any video would be nice.

[@bronyazaychik3921]

Omfg all the memories i had struggling as an f2p player through all these years. My first main dps valk was Gyakushin Miko with her sakura blossom sword. I was maulding not getting Memento that time. Oh boi having Celestial hymn was a life saver early. I also remember not having oath of judah that time, crystals are very hard to earned those days but now as a pure f2p player, I'm always retaining at redlotus and top 10% on MA. It was breath taking to see this vid, brings back all the pain and happy moments in gacha.

[@gabbbsworld]

I never expected to be early in a keeb vid

[@hieutruongxuan9995]

I still remember old abyss with bomb throwing and who dont have invisible will rank down :))

[@ihavenoidea4317]

yeah that was fun

[@ealy3545]

I loved the soundtracks. Amazing vid.

[@xLvsinq]

i would love an updated version of this i like these kinds of videos they're interesting

[@vfsberry7491]

Do HoV some justice giving her out for free is nice but disrespectful to the queens name Like just Give her all the buffs she needs

[@feijida8841]

[@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904]

Aka the Rise of Herrschers...

[@thongorshengar]

>powercreeping >SP and NS literally stays until the very end of video despite both of them have their S-rank counterpart. Do you even play the fucking game?

[@feijida8841]

@@thongorshengar I quit this fxcking game after I played it for about 1100 days, in CN LOL.

[@tanngominh9935]

tysm. This video is super interesting! Love it.

[@MrPanda_Cake]

As a Lv 85 now, I started playing during Phoenix's release; it's really interesting to see a time before mine, as well as all the things that caught me off guard. Like AK still seeing play is interesting, or how SN never actually became top 1 even though she felt like my strongest unit during that time. I only recently started learning about unit/skill rotations, cus before I have the gear and valks as people that top MA and Abyss, but I could never seem to reach those numbers. I realized how much more dps you get when you maximize stigmatas and abilities.

[@honkaiphantom3805]

Brings a lot of memory ugh... 🥲

[@argonph6180]

Ahh remember when memento is so op that when it comes to coop its auto MVP? ah I feel old. I started playing at Blood rose Himeko's era. And how can I forget the no "Pity" pulls back then.

[@Alexandragon1]

Thx for so much nostalgia and great history!

[@reed582]

It's crazy just to see how much different the game was just a year ago and how some of the most obscure valks today once dominated. It's also crazy to see just how much changed past this vid: HoF, PE, Mobius, just some of the great dps characters during this time