My theory on White's behavior is that he was doing a ton of "attack orange" communication with Black. I've seen some noobs completely lose track of the "how do I get myself in a position where I can win" and instead just want a buddy as soon as it's 3 player.
@joelwillems4081 Жыл бұрын
It is why I've stopped playing alliances on. Either I will be the one that thinks I have a buddy before being back-stabbed, or I will be the one two or three people take turns hitting. Prefer an honest game where no one really communicates except for trying to indicate attention.
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Yeah he was very obviously playing for second in which case I should have just killed him when I had the chance
@meanmugging Жыл бұрын
These types of games are the worst, where anyone could have still won the game, but some huge noob just plays for second and forces you into third.
@Orblets Жыл бұрын
Black feels like the kind of player that is only ranked "expert" because they play so many games where the other people let him win
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Hes so proud of himself for playing that way. Justifying not playing to win
@jayv3264 Жыл бұрын
It’s paradoxical how the worst players can bring down the best players in a game. Of course, Lady Luck muddies those waters (White had phenomenal dice and sets throughout almost the entire game).
@justinbates2057 Жыл бұрын
Ye good ol spoiler blocker
@boghy1996 Жыл бұрын
Seems unnecessary if pete spoils the whole video in the first 10 seconds
@3OBTPA Жыл бұрын
When I see spoilers at the beginning of a video, I kind of lose interest in watching. Like what's the point? Maybe I'll watch this later. I'm going to go find something else
@emptmedia Жыл бұрын
@@boghy1996what whole video, you can’t even see most of the board.
@paulmccarthy1444 Жыл бұрын
" the classic Australian pissing contest " 🤣🤣💀. What a funny guy you are sometimes peteman
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Isosceles8818 Жыл бұрын
Man 3 player end games can make your skin crawl sometimes. I played one last night that probably went 2 and half hours.
@LithmusEarth Жыл бұрын
23:13 what a wacky game it has been, and jeez, we just speeding through even your turn.
@jerrymason7887 Жыл бұрын
Instead of noob slamming white at the end, could you not have set up some kind of card block or kept him to just Australia so he was getting fewer troops?
@Ghost867 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this game. Good to see, that you have these kind of games too...
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
I think this dude been trolling the classic fixed scene a lot recently
@TreeCamper Жыл бұрын
GMs have been running into noob hate a lot lately. Vampire Chicken had three games posted in a row where someone was just targeting him exclusively for no apparent reason.
@trequor Жыл бұрын
Insane that red didnt pivot to a now-empty africa at 11:50
@CJ-fl5zn Жыл бұрын
Nothing like checking and seeing a Peteman vid out. Love the content! ❤
@jdlightsey Жыл бұрын
You fell for one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a no-Australia-no-win player when death is on the line! Great Fixed Friday video as always. I'm sure games like this are frustrating, but thanks for sharing it. Your plan to salvage a 2nd place finish from this game seemed very sound. The dice just weren't on your side.
@whitesnake2022 Жыл бұрын
I did not understand why orange attacked white. Maybe trying to get EU back was an option?!
@William_3DS Жыл бұрын
@@whitesnake2022in the endgame? Not really. Black wouldn't let him hold, neither white. Black made sense to do so, but white was just flopping around.
@RoyalJoker15 Жыл бұрын
Gg Pete. Another example why I always turtle in Europe, but I can see here why you thought guarding a bit would’ve been fine since it looked like everyone else hated each other, and wouldn’t sacrifice a big chunk of troops to break you.
@whitesnake2022 Жыл бұрын
Black played very defensive. Orange and white found no way to attack black together.
@LimitBreakr424 Жыл бұрын
High probability of white being a juggalo. GG!
@EvertfromNederland Жыл бұрын
Well, he was a clown alright
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Hanging in Australia sipping that faygo soda
@CarlosEduardo-vy9qs4 ай бұрын
They are all pros, @Pete, they know that the kill Pete Strategy is always the best move for them. :D :D :D :D
@TheCreoleSon897 ай бұрын
Dang the way you lost after being in such a great position lol 😂
@moriahcunningham12711 ай бұрын
At 29:50 I checked the title again…
@michaelweber7989 Жыл бұрын
I got all excited from your teaser, I thought it was game I played in, it's not. Look forward to meeting you the battlefield someday sir.
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
One day!
@DanielGutierrez-ko9ep Жыл бұрын
Pete: “and as player 4 magenta, general de balzac”.. What I hear: General Ballsack? This game seems like its going to be a bit “testy”.
@hustler3of4culture3 Жыл бұрын
Ooooooh😮
@awb95 Жыл бұрын
Question, around 25.15 you said that black should have won the game already. I'm guessing you say that based on troup count. I would understand if the biggest player had as many troups as the other players combined, however, here he had less. How do you know if you have enough to wipe out the rest of the board?
@DaTimmeh Жыл бұрын
He had enough to take one person out and still be in a strong advantage in a 1v1. It's a mix of troop count, board position, and some other stuff.
@99zxk Жыл бұрын
Pete's going for the Euro, NA, SA, Africa, Asia, Aus strategy. Well played.
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
it worked out!
@funnerbutter7423 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making this content! I have watched all of your fixed Friday videos over the past month, and my love for the game of risk has sparked. I started with 24 hours played in my first week, and after not playing for a few weeks after that, I have 7 wins and 20 losses. How good do you think I am based on that? Keep up the fantastic content!
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Solid! Keep going
@funnerbutter7423 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKillPeteStrategy you bet
@chadwickgrant4244 Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for you playing classic against such noobs HAHA I played a fixed classic game today and managed to win ONLY because the noobs were stupid enough to suicide into each other while I was the weakest player. Love the vids :)
@69Jackjones69 Жыл бұрын
One's victory always seems to depend upon a mixture of skill and luck. One minute you're in the lead stacking in Europe drawing cards and the next a noob ramdingles you and you end up in 3rd place
@Moorooten11 ай бұрын
I actually think it makes sense black was an expert player. You can go for Australia just to have a laugh. Then the way he prioritized surviving (putting stack all over the board) and then never taking NA or Africa was a good tell that he was a higher ranked player. His opening was probably not a GM opening but good enough for expert. Vampirechicken is a GM and he does those crazy Australian openings all the time so there is probably some meta there, everyone leaves him alone because they think he is a noob based on his opening?
@josephdahdouh2725 Жыл бұрын
I think this game showed that you really couldn't read the other players well. As a person who understands noobs, and sometimes used to play like ones, I can understand what they were doing and why they would attack you sometimes. You thought in some cases that they were targeting you when it wasn't the case most of the time. But, gg. I think playing against noobs is as difficult as playing against pros when all that noobs do is target you. But, this was fun to watch. I think you allowed black to gain such an edge against you, and white wasn't really suiciding more like asking for help. But, you weren't doing anything and so he had to attack you because if you aren't helping against the threat why would white fight this battle almost for you while you do nothing to help white against black and white wasn't into letting you gain the edge was most probably what white was thinking. I think you played this poorly Pete, and what led you here was your laughing: "Oh! They are suiciding into each other and are angry at each other, so they are letting me have the victory while I do nothing." Although this seems to work in many games, this mindset this time made you lose since you ended up not siding with anyone making in this case white slightly target you since it was really a fight between you and white for second place once you decided not to be involved in the fight against black. I am not hating on you or your gameplay, I am just criticizing this game particularly. I agree that white was trash, but he knew he was trash and that was why he wanted you to help him against black. It was clearly the case when he took down all of Europe so you could have as many routes against black as you pleased, but you not take that opportunity is what led him to attack you with a 17. I think if you tried teaming up with white instead of trying not to be involved then white would have not had to try and suicide you. In this game, I would say you played almost as bad as both white and black, and so it was a fair loss.
@joelwillems4081 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to hold Europe when there are noobs all around. They just see that plus five and want to hit anyone trying to hold that bonus. This is why most Pete games try for NA or upgrade to NA. But Pete not consolidating meant he couldn't easily do that after killing Pink. And he surprisingly wasn't aggressive against one player at a time to try to eliminate them in piecemeal. I agree that Pete played a very non-Pete style in this one.
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
"white wasn't really suiciding more like asking for help." You want my help you let me hold something so I can help you. White was playing for second as soon as he let black hold and kept hitting me. If I'm understanding your take here; white hitting all of my Europe was him trying to get me to hit black. You may be right, but if this is true than white is one of the dumbest people I've ever played against. I can't negotiate with you if you're below a certain minimum level of understanding, so I'll slam all my troops into you and move to the next game. Suggesting that I played this poorly because I wasn't able to get on the level of a moron is probably untrue. But it's also possible that I'm a moron
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
@joelwillems4081 I wasn't expecting white to play for second here instead of trying to win. When players play for second it opens up an entirely different extra subset of possible moves which advantaged white because I realized too late.
@josephdahdouh2725 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKillPeteStrategy You may be right that there was no way out since you realized it too late. Idk maybe the way I would have played it would have not won the game either. However, I don't think white was a total moron. Playing for a second isn't being a moron when you know there was no way out. Once black really doubled both your guy's troop count almost, you should have known that there was no way that white would keep hitting black since that would mean that black would kill him first. What whites did there was try to feed you to black since you were not of much help in the battle against the growing power. You let black hold all NA and kept saying that white is targeting all my ground when even white was moving into black's territory to try and stop black from occupying all of NA. This is what advantaged black-->White was wasting both troops trying to reach black to stop him from growing by crossing a path through you, and at some point, you admitted that white is a troop waster(over attacker) and that he is advantaging black, yet ironically you didn't expect that black would win that war, and expected white to be suiciding more and more troops for the sake of making it more even, yet you did nothing to make things even. In the end, black decided to kill you before he did white maybe it was because he thought that white was trying his best to win or at least balance the troop count even when it was;t the best way possible since he was a beginner and didn't a better strategy to do so, while black saw you doing nothing and let black become a dominator. Idk, to me white wasn't a complete moron, but I do admit he had bad plays. Again, however, he did what he could to try to balance things when he knew he had no way to beat black anymore(almost double his troop count), he found no other solution than to feed you. But, nice try Pete and you can't win them all. Also, It is not like I can read the player's minds, but I am trying to tell you how I view their thoughts. If I was right about their thoughts, then, I think you misunderstood both their intentions the whole time and instead were speculating that they were morons all along. Also, I disliked the play where instead of taking 2 spots to maintain Europe you did the noob play you typically refer to of placing troops at every corner of the Europe map. Maybe the other way would have made it less likely that they would attack or maybe a greater retaliation from you against the break that black did with consolidated troops would have evened the field more. Idk Tbh, I enjoy your winning games a tad more than the losing ones because I do see that sometimes you blame things that in most cases make sense, but in some cases like this one, I can't see eye to eye. But, overall it was a fun watch.
@danhoward699310 ай бұрын
Jesus, I felt your pain in that one. I was extremely frustrated watching those two plebs. Nothing worst than slime-brained noobs that don't respect true strategy.
@whitesnake2022 Жыл бұрын
I learned so much from your videos. Thank you
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@illuminatedstorm Жыл бұрын
Oof. Noobs like white are the only reason I struggle keeping rank up. Have 3-4 quality games of top 2 finishes and then BAM, 5 straight of a random noob slam out of nowhere knocking me out in 5th. It's not as bad since I started filtering Novices out, but there's plenty of Beginners that aren't any better. Still love the game tho, and as always love the Fixed Friday content Pete! 👍
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
It's funny eh
@illuminatedstorm Жыл бұрын
@@TheKillPeteStrategy LOL so frustratingly funny 😅
@Coolpawn Жыл бұрын
Same. I played the SA position but my large Asia stack was forced to coexist with the red player's lone stack. I avoided attacking him at all cost because all of us knew he would suicide into either of us. And it was of course me. Eventually, the Africa player took over my SA. My only comfort was that I avoided the long and boring stalemate that followed.
@Sputz032 Жыл бұрын
I got rocked in three straight games today by the noobliest noobs ever. Cost me roughly 4500 rank points. What bothers me more is that I finished 2nd in both games after and only got back 600 or so points, total.
@BeerfootBandit Жыл бұрын
I'm not doing well at all, but this helps alot. Much love brother
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Wishing you the best
@BeerfootBandit Жыл бұрын
@@TheKillPeteStrategy thanks man 🙏🏾
@mhreinhardt11 ай бұрын
Newb Question: You talk sometimes about a player taking revenge on another player, but shouldn't you simply analyze the board and find the best play in the moment regardless of what happened in previous turns, or are you just talking about what you expect OTHER players to commonly do based on emotions even if it's not the correct play? Or are you saying it's valid to take revenge sometimes even if it's not optimal just to send a message to the other players not to f@¢< with you or they'll pay the price? Thanks for these videos also! I stumbled across them recently and haven't played in years but it's rekindled my interest and I've started playing online.
@TheKillPeteStrategy11 ай бұрын
The key thing to take into account with revenge is: Are you ever going to play this person again? In public lobbies revenge makes sense in two cases: 1: If the player has made it so that you can't win; making them lose before you is your highest odds play to get the best possible outcome. 2: If the player has shown unwillingness or inability to work with you, making it necessary to remove them before hopefully stablizing the game and establishing an advantageous position for yourself. In community games and tournament revenge makes sense in different ways. Since we all bear a public reputational cost for our actions and I always play consistently I don't waste too much energy telling other people how I think they 'should' play and rather focus on reminding folks how I play in different circumstances. "shouldn't you simply analyze the board and find the best play in the moment regardless of what happened in previous turns" The best play depends on those two fundamental different types of games. Am I playing a single game in a vacuum with an opponent in isolation or am I playing a series of iterated games with the same people? Great question!
@mhreinhardt11 ай бұрын
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Thank you for the answer and the importance of the extra context. This gives me something new to chew on and enlightens me about a hole I need to fill. Appreciate you!
@coledurham5912 Жыл бұрын
What does “noob slam” even mean?
@sproge2142 Жыл бұрын
22:04 good lord the white player has god rolls, 6 attacks without losing a single troop 🤣 Saw the same thing earlier too
@Giuseppe1927 Жыл бұрын
general de balzac-> the ballsack is so funny
@CocoDave37 Жыл бұрын
Well that was deflating!
@VictoryNotVengeance Жыл бұрын
Idk if “General De Balzac” (pink) is a common randomly generated screen name but I swear I’ve played them before…. Multiple times…. I just always thought that name was funny. Cuz, well….”ball sac” LUL 🤦🏻♂️
@marcelintworski4338 Жыл бұрын
Balzac is a famous french writer.
@billhendrix3641 Жыл бұрын
this type of game is exactly why I deleted my account
@ali98bosalem Жыл бұрын
This time I think pete was the spoiler😞
@yeighseph1976 Жыл бұрын
That card skip at the end seemed a little suspicious. Maybe the noob slam at the beginning was all for show.
@trequor Жыл бұрын
That doesnt make sense. In a 2-v-1 collab they control who gets second. Whether white kills orange or black kills orange, the standings remain the same
@69Jackjones69 Жыл бұрын
Whine blocker against them that fixing to complain about the teaser trailer at the beginning of the vid 🛡️
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Lol
@judjudy7272 Жыл бұрын
No AUS no WIN 😂
@micwinnard370 Жыл бұрын
Play for 2nd, get 3rd 😂😂
@Mindown53835 ай бұрын
Seriously bros, Charlie power!!
@gustavesoucy-breton6841 Жыл бұрын
Hum... So hard to understand the play of black... I mean an expert? I don't believe that so much...
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Not playing to win opens up all sorts of strategic options that are normally closed
@DavidvanDeijk Жыл бұрын
Black played quite good, pete should learn a little bit from black's misdirection. Dont be too quick to judge, Pete.
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
He played great. If second place was a win
@DavidvanDeijk Жыл бұрын
@@TheKillPeteStrategyhe was not a noob slammer like you thought at first. His fake noobslam caught you off guard, not retaliating gave him whites loyalty, worth the few troops at the start he lost in aus. its all about psychology.
@gdgd5194 Жыл бұрын
This game is ruled by multi accounts
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
there's a lot for sure
@gamers_1 Жыл бұрын
Great game pete as always 👍🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
@jamesw71 Жыл бұрын
Can't stand watching these games....so much turtling and makes games last way too long...there needs to be rules on max army size for each territory and/or max number of armies allowed in play....I mean if you are playing on a regular board you only have so many pieces....the computer version of Risk is stupid in that it allows unlimited armies.
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
That would be a good option to have. Time limits for games too. more options are better than less
@disguisedbeer4122 Жыл бұрын
I just played a game of capital conq, i had NA nobody hit me as able to get cards all game, they all went after each other while my 1 cap just kept getting stronger and stronger, then it came down to me and magenta hes full suicided into my 1300 cap, and still had 1k left, and cap ran him lol 2 hour game btw lmao
@ItsThatVogue9 ай бұрын
Wtf was white doing here? Aint no way you can noob yourself out of that one
@Eboss82828 Жыл бұрын
Is anyone who attacks you a noob/sucks?
@TheKillPeteStrategy Жыл бұрын
Every single one
@PrinceCollinXXX Жыл бұрын
No it’s just white didn’t play to win and it made no sense to attack Pete, even when black was holding large swaths of board. That white player was a noob.
@trequor Жыл бұрын
No but white continuing to chase down bonusless Pete as black held +5 in bonuses is noob behaviour. White gave black the game
@schongemeldet1 Жыл бұрын
Algorithm boost 🔥
@timmcclymont3527 Жыл бұрын
He's just pete and he's on drugs, something anywhere else he'd be a 10 or whatever I didn't see the movie