Not particularly interested in MG but watched from start to finish. Jonny is hands down the best car reviewer on KZbin or any medium for that matter 👌🏽
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
Jonny paid Raymond £6, a tub of ice cream and a ticket to Retro Rides Gathering to say this.
@raymondpritchard2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow you had me at “tub of ice cream” 🍦
@mikebreen28902 жыл бұрын
I wasn't interested in MG, just happened to pass the dealer after test driving Tesla's. I ended up with an MG5. Now I know that it's no Tesla and it's ugly, but it's not half the car either but it was half the price. If I had water in light fittings on my £24,000 MG I would take it back to the dealer, Tesla put their £50,000 car out as a demo. Really fancy an MG4 with the dual motors, what a street sleeper and how many embarrassed super car owners!
@raymondpritchard2 жыл бұрын
@@BRI535D Fully Charged is excellent too but not as in depth or as engaging IMHO and that’s what matters
@watcher246012 жыл бұрын
@@BRI535D must have changed then, Robert used to know nothing about cars and just rant about fossil and price during his reviews.
@williamarmstrong71992 жыл бұрын
I run an MG5 as a taxi 73000 miles in 20 months fault free still same range. Brake pads worn about 10% from new. Customers absulutly love it.
@T16MGJ2 жыл бұрын
That is praise indeed for the MG5. Until the MG4 appeared, the MG5 would be at the top of my shopping list if I ever go full EV. Chinese MGs are used as Taxis for years. One even appeared frequently as a Taxi on the popular TV Series Doc Martin. That being an MG6 1.8 Petrol Turbo. According to some reports, MG6s used as taxis 200,000 miles is not unusual. The MG 6 is a far better car than many would have you believe for some reason when they first appeared on these shores. The Chinese having bought the IPRs of the MG Marque for relatively buttons, made an excellent job of their version of Rover's 1.8 turbocharged K-Series. Johnnie's enthusiasm comes over strongly for the MG4. Looks like I shall have to see for myself, ideally with actual "hands on" experience rather than the opinions of others who sometimes allow their bias and prejudice to distort and mislead.
@riskinhos2 жыл бұрын
not true whatsoever. that would violate the laws of physics. it's completely impossible that the batteries haven't degraded. they do. it's just your shitty on board computer that doesn't tell you the truth. you DO NOT have the same range.
@T16MGJ2 жыл бұрын
@@riskinhos All on board computers speaketh with forked tongue occasionally. His "same range" experience could be ca. hundred miles per day subject to use. .
@djwarren50812 жыл бұрын
Great feedback. Thanks.
@Jamessansome2 жыл бұрын
@@riskinhos I have heard the batteries are slightly larger than their stated capacity so the degradation that does happen is not shown by the on-board computer......
@alandavies10542 жыл бұрын
Johnnie is the best motoring journalist by far…no waffle or unnecessary numbers…talks to you as an equal and keeps it interesting…top man 👍
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
Cheers 👍🏻
@jeffjames31112 жыл бұрын
Yeah completely agree.
@garethsaunders12602 жыл бұрын
We've had two Leaf's a MG ZS EV and a Tesla Model 3. We currently have the Model 3 and the ZS EV. With the exception of handling the MG is the best EV we've had. Yes, the Tesla is fast and handles well, but, for what it is and how much it cost the MG is an absolutely cracking EV. Ours is 2.5 years old and has been faultless and brilliantly built, better built than the Model 3. The ZS will.be replaced by the MG4, legacy manufacturers need to keep a close eye on MG.
@howardwologritz23552 жыл бұрын
What do you think @gareth Saunders, would you upgrade to this from a 40kwh leaf?
@Fritsvrolijk Жыл бұрын
Free charging with the Tesla is a great option
@derykhawkins2199 Жыл бұрын
Go live in china then !!!
@xXturbo86Xx6 ай бұрын
So you've made a habit out of buying cars?
@mikematthews2k1812 жыл бұрын
As an MG Rover Mechanic. I love the brand owning many cars from this brand last being the MG Maestro Turbo. Really good to see the brand bouncing back 👌 Alan Partridge 🤣
@zacash252 жыл бұрын
chinese communist party owns it
@NS_Miata2 жыл бұрын
You know it has nothing to do with the original brand beside the name only
@forsdykemontague1017 Жыл бұрын
@@NS_Miata Did you know Rolls Royce has nothing to do with the original brand and is now a VW, similar for Bentley 😂
@derykhawkins2199 Жыл бұрын
Go live in china then !!!
@cjmillsnun6 ай бұрын
@@forsdykemontague1017 RR is BMW. Bentley is VW.
@simonyapp2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2nd hand ZSEV expecting some oddities and little issues. Non! It’s 2 years old, 20K, drive superbly, saves us £100+ a month in fuel, has lots of tech and the kids love the glass roof. The thing I added was a spare wheel and tint to the rear glass. Funnily enough we had a opportunity to hire a ID4 on hols and we were all pleased to be back in the ZSEV after, funny software in the VW and far more plasticity surfaces than a VW £50k should have. I a big fan now of SAIC (MG) 👍
@PJ-om2wq2 жыл бұрын
How much does a two year old one cost?
@insomniavfx2 жыл бұрын
Felt the same about an ID3 I had a go in. Overly complicated software and disappointingly plasticky for the money. Glad I’ve got the ZSEV
@mmarwood82 жыл бұрын
No comparison between the id4 and szev the zs is one of the worst cars I’ve ever drove my ev van is better to drive. I agree the tech is decent level but the quality ect is not good and the range is awful
@T16MGJ2 жыл бұрын
That is some impressive praise.
@GeoffSteeleAU2 жыл бұрын
FWIW with our (great!) ZSEV ownership experience, and non-stellar time friends have had with VW, SAIC are on our future consideration list and VW just aren't.
@deansh85062 жыл бұрын
This is how you review the car. Fair play Johnny you are the No.1 car reviewer in my eyes 👍👍👍
@tocreatee35852 жыл бұрын
its a rebadged chinese EV. Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation orSAIC owns MG brand. Dont be fooled.
@kindface2 жыл бұрын
@@tocreatee3585 Great sloganeering. Basic intelligence, not so much. The Chinese have sent machines to the dark side of the moon and rovers on Mars - all without any glitches. And here you are belittling their abilities to build EVs, which are positively low-tech stuff compared to those things they build for the moon and Mars. You need to rewire your head, dude.
@daddymulk2 жыл бұрын
@@tocreatee3585 Everything is now being made in China thats why everything is So Poor now, I get sent to Customers Machine yesterday, They Complained They Struggle to Open Door, I had No Solution For Them, All I Could Say is Cheap Chinese Locks and Keys Unless There Replaced With Good Quality You'll have to Put up with it. Have same issue on Arcade Machine Locks
@daddymulk2 жыл бұрын
@@kindface yeah of course they have, wake up its all bullshit, no one has been to the moon, stop being fooled by fools called nasa
@geoffmorris1769 Жыл бұрын
@@tocreatee3585 it is not rebadged. It is a straight forward Chinese car. They bought the MG/Rover logo when it went bankrupt. These cars are nothing whatsoever to do with the old MG company. They are purely Chinese with a retained UK design base in Birmingham. Also, they are super, value for money motors. Probably like the telephone/computer you are using to post your comments. 😂
@TimmmmmyD2 жыл бұрын
Never thought i would ever say i like MG cars. But i have been driving an MG5 EV since June as a company vehicle. I have covered 6k miles without any issues and i would even consider owning one as a my own private vehicle. I'm impressed with MGs so far
@tobyhall76172 жыл бұрын
It's not an mg they've went bankrupt with rover years ago they 100% Chinese
@phuketexplorer2 жыл бұрын
@@tobyhall7617 It's still an MG by name. Your comment makes as much sense as saying Jaguar, Rolls Royce or Bentley, went bankrupt years ago.
@Neojhun2 жыл бұрын
@@tobyhall7617 Not realy, the Chinese models which they are based on is slightly different. The Design house in Longbridge, Birmingham does customize it for Europe.
@Neojhun2 жыл бұрын
@@tobyhall7617 FYI back then Rover was owned by BMW.
@T16MGJ2 жыл бұрын
@@tobyhall7617 Had MG-Rover been a Public Sector Bottomless Money pit Organ, taxpayer rescue and sustaining funds would have been provided. The then UK Government called in the receivers and unless news of the fake variety, acted to torpedo any chnace of a joint venture with a far Eastern manufacture on the lines of the previous and successful Honda~ Austin Rover Group Partnership . MG-Rover was a Private Company then and thus did not align with their ideology... A harmful to the Nation one and ongoing. I voted for that shower three times! Never again. Mug Brits sold the remnant IPRs of the much asset stripped former massively asset rich Rover Group then known as MG-Rover for peanuts to the Chinese owners of the marque. Who have used it well Worldwide with increasing sales even here in the UK.. Yes, Rover group asset stripped by the Bavarian outfit ( Foreign owners of the once massively asset rich Rover Group ) who needed TWO small cars in their otherwise Gas Guzzler Model line up or be penalised heavily by the EU constraints and guidelines. Soon after acquiring Rover Group for relatively little, they sold off the JLR assets. JLR sold to FOMOCO for more than they paid for the whole sheebang unless those figures quoted were fake news. The huge R&D costs of those two small cars BMW set against the Rover accounts to demonstrate what they called, here I use their words. "The English Patient.. " Millions of Brits bought into that Bovine Excrement and still do to this day! Then if that was not enough, sold off the remnants which became known as MG-Rover for a tenner so escaping the massive redundancy costs had the company been wound up then. Mug UK Governments still see foreign ownership of so many aspects of the UK and its various assets as "Foreign Investment" .. often given massive under the table taxpayer financial inducements to set up here with access to greenfield sites denied to many "In House" British concerns. Most like Honda warned when it suited them, not the UK, they will up sticks and leave. Give credit to Honda company, well before any mention of an IN-OUT EU Referendum, they told us that, Yet cue some of the more poisonous sectors of UK Main Stream Media blaming the OUT voters for that. FAKE NEWS since denied by the honourable Honda Motor Company of Japan. As a Nation we seem determined to fall for the three card trick time and again. Many Brits form queues still to pay over the odds for BMWs and other foreign built Automotive product. That adds to the UK impressive increases in exports. Yes exports of many worthwhile UK careers and jobs straight out of the country ... The USA is not the only place having "Rust Belts" Still they come in their thousands daily to treat the UK Taxpayers as mugs. It's now twenty years since I ordered and bought the last MG new, one of several over the decades. In so doing sustaining good jobs and careers for the good folks of the Midlands at Longbridge. Still have the last MG I bought new and the new Rover Metro in the family fleet bought twenty nine years ago. I can no longer have the pleasure of doing that ever again. I can of course buy a nice new MG tomorrow like several folks down my street have done. All tell me they are delighted with their new MGs when I ask them. Nothing wrong with that except, those nice new MGs should have been built and manufactured by the folks of the UK's Midlands as was once the case many years ago! Only in the UK .. :sigh: If having read so far, you get the impression I have strong feelings about so many of the wrong decisions those we entrust to this Nation's well being have failed us by, you'd be quite correct. Worse still, it's ongoing. I am far from alone in having these strong views and those who feel the same way or rapidly increasing in number. Many here could learn from those folks across the other side of the Atlantic. Make a start with the following Mission Statement. UK FIRST.
@Richardincancale2 жыл бұрын
24:26 I picked up a new style MG5 here in France this week…. It’s so good! No new car glitches, good panel fit, no rattles etc. The touch screen navigation and entertainment screen is very responsive. I made a point of not reading the user manual - everything is just evident - no surprises. And it goes well - the long range luxury version has all the toys and is certainly fast enough. Just back from the DIY store with 2.4m lengths of wood no problem!
@Lokkee9292 жыл бұрын
You mean the 2022 MG5 already on the market?
@Richardincancale2 жыл бұрын
@@Lokkee929 Yes
@Teribus132 жыл бұрын
@@Lokkee929 it went on sale in Europe earlier than it was coming to the UK
@badboy2509842 жыл бұрын
I been keeping my eye on this since they announced it. For 28k for the mid trim with decent range and 7 years warranty. You can’t go wrong. Is nice looking as well. I’m certainly will buy one of these.
@VYM Жыл бұрын
and after warranty is finished prepare to burn your car, because not a single idiot on this planet will buy second hand EV car with semi dead battery. And price for new battery=price for new car, lol.
@badboy250984 Жыл бұрын
@@VYM Who would keep a EV? Usually buy with pcp for 4 years and just chance it for something else lol.
@undecided25 Жыл бұрын
@@VYM The standard range LFP battery has a charge cycle rate of 3,000 - 10,0000 cycles so even charging twice per week means the battery should be good for the life of the car. MG offer 7 years warranty on the whole car. Yes, the long range NMC battery only has a charge cycle rate of approx 1500 cycles but this would still be 14 years at 2 charges per week. More reviews should talk about the LFP/NMC battery difference. Even Tesla Model 3 & Model Y are moving over to LFP batteries.
@VYM Жыл бұрын
@@undecided25 it's all theory, nothing else. And in my opinion gram of practice is worth tons of theory. So please enjoy your beta testing of these Chinese carts for your money and I will watch.
@bitet1 Жыл бұрын
@VYM's Playpen stay undecided waiting for inflation eating your savings 🤣
@James_Dilkes2 жыл бұрын
I think we lost you for a moment there, Jonny. Full on '80s flashback going on. Love it! I absolutely would drive one of these. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a Tesla Model S, but there's no way I'm forking out £700 a month. I'm very much looking forward to test driving an MG4!
@craigo26562 жыл бұрын
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp_QkoyGmtyseJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5qreoeHe9mHh9E The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fNgHyniNqbhZo China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnrclqGHYtOdorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXOeXSVYt2lr80
@Travs872 жыл бұрын
Another honest, unbiased review Jonny. I like the finer details you get into, the level of finish within the boot area. No one else would pick up on these things. Top man!
@stepheng87792 жыл бұрын
Shame Kia aren't still doing what they were doing 4-5 years ago. Still making great cars but the prices now are just as astronomical as everyone else. MG4 & Dacia look to be on a roll, good luck to em.
@DraganBakema2 жыл бұрын
one of the best car reviews ever..this was a journey. From nanny's clock to brand snobbery to eating your own words..this was great.
@andyfaulkner6432 жыл бұрын
Great video Johnny, you’re so right about the MG! We’ve had an MG5 for the last 6 months or so, and I really can’t fault it. I’m a petrol head at heart too, and was initially reluctant but this is honestly one of the best cars in terms of value, drive-ability and spec I’ve ever owned.
@Littlegreenlightweight2 жыл бұрын
As many in the comments here had my ZS EV for a year now. Can't fault it. Did 13500 miles on £216 of electric according to my charger app. It's brilliant. Highly recommend any doubters to try one.
@WilliamStevens0072 жыл бұрын
Really, Wow thats some cheap motoring, What are the other costs involved??
@phuketexplorer2 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamStevens007 The cost of buying still far outweighs the savings made on fuel.
@noggintube2 жыл бұрын
@@phuketexplorer that's the rub with these. To 'upgrade' I'd probably have to spend over 15 grand after part-ex. Unless changing anyway, saves money to actually stick with the current petrol/diesel car.
@sandpiperuk2 жыл бұрын
That's under 2p per mile! I wish I could find electricity that cheap.
@jeremymanson17812 жыл бұрын
@@phuketexplorer not if you take into account the reduction in maintenance costs and the much greater resale value.
@darrencox1502 жыл бұрын
We've had a MG5 for 18 months, it's fantastic. Love the look of the MG4!
@derykhawkins2199 Жыл бұрын
Go live in china then !!!
@thesalopgardener2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely considering an MG. As a traditional country dweller, I think the EV5 is the one I'd have. Absolutely not a badge snob, but will always buy the vehicle that suits what I need. More over, why the hell hasn't Jonny been put on the telly box with a motoring show??? His presentation style is absolutely on point, a joy to watch and listen to.
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
Been there, done the TV Nick. One day I might do it again...
@craigo26562 жыл бұрын
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp_QkoyGmtyseJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5qreoeHe9mHh9E The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fNgHyniNqbhZo China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnrclqGHYtOdorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXOeXSVYt2lr80
@pauliboo22 жыл бұрын
Fifth Gear? You can probably watch reruns on Dave. I have been following Jonny’s career ever since he started on Max Power all those years ago!
@beachamgroup24822 жыл бұрын
Mainstream tv is finished. KZbin etc best thing that has happened in year's and I am nearly 60.
@thesalopgardener2 жыл бұрын
@@beachamgroup2482 you could very well be right.
@dfishpool70522 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonny, thanks for the presentation. I bought an ex demo MG5 Exclusive last October - my previous vehicle was a 2004 Range Rover with LPG conversion - lovely vehicle but began costing lots of money at each successive MOT. The MG5 has, so far proved to be faultless - the air conditioning is the best that I've experienced in any vehicle that I've owned in the past. Its completely unobtrusive in operation. I generally drive in 'economy' mode and max 'regen' mode. Recently, in the hot weather. it was returning 4.6 miles per kwh - I pay 21p per kWh on economy 7 so circa 4.7 pence per mile. The 12 month service cost £70 and that included cleaning inside and out and took about an hour. Have been thoroughly impressed with the car.
@derykhawkins2199 Жыл бұрын
Go live in china then !!!
@simoncanfer50302 жыл бұрын
Really good review, great to see cars like this that Hyundai used to offer. 5 years on from our Ioniq, this offers twice the range, faster acceleration and twice the charging speed for the same money. What's not to like?
@alanbrad37272 жыл бұрын
Think i might be trading in my IoniQ 38kwh for this!
@simoncanfer50302 жыл бұрын
@@alanbrad3727 absolutely!
@robertsmart74842 жыл бұрын
@@alanbrad3727 Probably not quite as fuel efficient as the Iconiq 28 kWh, but still pretty good.
@alanbrad37272 жыл бұрын
@@robertsmart7484 Definitely not! But Battery size & charge speed make up for that.
@derykhawkins2199 Жыл бұрын
What's not to like? It's fucking chinese !!!!!!!!!!
@nitelite782 жыл бұрын
It's great the MG4 has V2L at this price because it will force pretty much all manufacturers into adding it. And I think that will make EVs in general just that bit more attractive compared with ICE vehicles especially for campers and people in areas that have frequent power cuts. I wonder what will happen with battery warranties for people who start using their vehicles every day as a home battery. Would reduce the lifespan of the battery but the warranties are based on mileage and time not number of charges/discharges.
@SDK2006b2 жыл бұрын
V2L just powers individual devices, via a 3-pin plug V2H is what you need to feed power from the car battery into a house, via a special charger.
@xiaoyang97582 жыл бұрын
mg4 51kwh model use LFP battery , that has longer lifespan then the mg4 64kwh model with Ternary lithium battery. lfp battery normaly had 2000 time charging cycle. so if you worry about it you can choose 51kwh model. battery warranties will ensure the degeneration of battery within 20% . if warranties out of date you can still use the rest 80%.
@nitelite782 жыл бұрын
@@xiaoyang9758 Interesting thanks. I did wonder about whether it was LFP or not as I was watching the video. Car reviewers tend not to mention it and I think it's a pretty important consideration.
@xiaoyang97582 жыл бұрын
@@nitelite78 lot of people are watting mg4 here in china ,in china mg4 call MG MULAN. there already over 40000 per-order. and the price in china are not release yet. 😂😂
@FieryToast12 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure there’s more to battery degradation than just charge discharge cycles. Those are just a quick ball park spec to give a rough idea of battery lifespan. The rate you charge and discharge the battery’s makes a huge difference. If you have a smart metre at home, you’ll probably see that most of the time your home is drawing 100s of watts, rather than a few kilowatt (a few thousand watts) which is what an EV consumes whilst cruising and even more when accelerating. Drawing power at a lower wattage general results in less heat. Roughly speaking, less heat = less degradation, so I can’t see people using there EV as a home battery make much difference to the lifespan of the pack. Especially considering you’d have to be trying really hard to drain the entire pack in a day just from your home. Like I say, I’m not an expert. Just a nerd whose been following EVs since 2014 😊 Edit: Just adding to my initial comment. For context on how much energy you use in a home,p vs an EV uses driving. Our Hyundai Kona takes about 12 hours to charge from empty to full drawing 7 kW most of the way. Again, roughly speaking (you need to account for losses in electricity transmission etc) that means to drain the entire 64 kWh battery in the Kona in a day, you’d need to sustain a 7 kW draw for around 9 hours. You are very unlikely to draw anything near that for half and hour, let alone 9.
@MacklandsMotors2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video again Jonny, watched it with my Dad who is seriously considering an MG4 to replace the horrible diesel evoque he’s got just now. I’ve got an MG3 and I just absolutely love it. I love that this isn’t a pretentious softroader, it’s a comfortable, well equipped, spacious and affordable family car with a superb range and it’s actually quite enjoyable to drive. Cheers again legend Jonny
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@JackPriddle2 жыл бұрын
As an owner of MG5 which is currently on 12k miles and I’ve owned a year to the date.. It’s still solid with no creaks or noises.. also to mention at its service last week the battery degradation was still at 100% which is great. Also to mention MG parent brand SAIC manufacture VW ID’s for Volkswagen for the Chinese market so they can’t be that bad!
@abraxastulammo99402 жыл бұрын
That must be why some copying has been going on. 😜
@watb86892 жыл бұрын
well they made it right and at the right price point. the idea from all China brands is that they want you to not be brand concious and save your money for some other things in life. It is a lifestyle not a brand.
@keithgreen90092 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best reviews of an ev or even a new car in general. I am going to have to seriously rethink what the brand actually means to me because I think sometimes we are nearly brainwashed into thinking certain brands mean More than they actually do mean
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Keith, look at the better known customer satisfaction surveys to see what brainwashing ( or clever marketing) does. The so-called "prestige" brands are nowhere near the top, and the lesser perceived brands (such as Dacia and Skoda) are often way higher up the scale than your head suggests they ought to be......
@winstoncat67852 жыл бұрын
I have a Polestar, and I like the centre console. But I'm old, so it doesn't count. And this car here, is really significant and exciting. It's a huge step up in value for EV's. It's the first time an EV with "full" functionality has come out with a price hugely undercutting its obvious competition. The warranty is incredible. The 64 kWh is interesting. Are theses all the same across the manufacturers? Is it all CATL? I have a 69 kWh Polestar, which first came out with 64 kWh. And there are all the Korean 64 kWh too.
@timallsopp86562 жыл бұрын
At last a great looking car from MG! Ultra competitive against its rivals and has all the ‘toys’ you would ever need when driving from A to B. It’s a no bargainer Jonny!
@vortexohm58302 жыл бұрын
True. The mg5 is ugly AF
@CastleKnight72 жыл бұрын
@@vortexohm5830 The new face-lifted version looks a lot better.
@shaunpraill58122 жыл бұрын
I see nothing wrong with this MG. It's a fuss free electric car at a good entry price. The styling is okay but miles better than the I.d3.
@maxmeier5322 жыл бұрын
This car is like a New Balance shoe. Decent fit, will completely kill your sexlife.
@golfbulldog2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is that if you buy it you are supporting the Chinese government... remember? The people who gave you the pandemic, the people who do social engineering like no other....the people who are helping to destroy your children's way of life....that price seem so reasonable now?
@CastleKnight72 жыл бұрын
@@golfbulldog I suggest you take a look at every device, appliance, piece of equipment, clothing, etc. you own and get back to us as to the country of manufacture.
@golfbulldog2 жыл бұрын
@@CastleKnight7 so the question really ought to be, how many have I purchased from China since the virus came out?
@andrewbannister45152 жыл бұрын
I tested an MG5 and thoroughly liked it. The MG4 may very well be my next car. Thanks for the great review!
@markmoore26252 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of MG evs about where I live, near the old Longbridge plant, and although a new ev is way out of my price bracket, this car looks good enough to tempt the badge snobs away from their go to marques. A very fair and unbiased review. Well done sir.
@carlstanland5333 Жыл бұрын
As someone from the U.S., I’ll never see most of the cars you review. I really love seeing the beautiful countryside as you drive! The B roads I can’t get over. So narrow and hedges really close to the pavement. The cars are a nice touch, and your reviews of them are great!
@tellmelullabies55522 жыл бұрын
Well done review of this MG, I just saw the Fully Charged review of the same car and this was miles better!
@Pionirish2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely would drive an MG. Looks good and most importantly great value. Hopefully other manufacturers who've been pushing prices up for EVs will have to respond. Like you I think a new MG5 estate with sharper looks will be just the ticket. Like an e-Niro, only more car-ish
@craigo26562 жыл бұрын
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp_QkoyGmtyseJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5qreoeHe9mHh9E The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fNgHyniNqbhZo China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnrclqGHYtOdorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXOeXSVYt2lr80
@andymccabe67122 жыл бұрын
You do know it's just a random metal box with a badge stuck on it that people have heard of..?! It has NOTHING to do with real MGs.....! That doesn't mean it can't be a great car, of course.......!!
@paddymuppy2 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 Real MGS were garbage like all British cars.. At least these will be reliable and won't rust immediately.
@Pionirish2 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 yes thanks
@WonkoTheSaneUK2 жыл бұрын
The facelifted MG5 is coming soon. They already have it on the continent.
@chris67702 жыл бұрын
The first good value family hatch EV I've seen - I see the BYD Atto 3 as it's natural competitor if and when that arrives. At that price/warranty it's hard to say anything against it. Plus they say for each 5k you drop in price, you double the number of prospective buyers. This should do well, the only real drawback is production numbers. How many rhd MG4s can they import, not nearly enough I imagine. Good review, Jonny.
@jonathantaylor19982 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that MG UK have secured around 2000 models for delivery before the end of 2022. 👍
@Hawky19912 жыл бұрын
We have had an ID.3 First edition for 1,5 years now and are so satisfied that we want to replace our remaining VW Golf VI GTD. After watching this video I have placed an order for the 64kWh Luxury edition of the MG4. I am so excited, especially for the V2L functionality!
@paulhann32882 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your unbiased appraisal of the MG4 Johny, and have to say that I was quite impressed which is very strange because I am not an EV fan! I know we responsible citizens should all be doing our bit for the environment, but from where I stand there are still too many obstacles and potential problems with buying and owning an EV! The biggest concern that most have, as I have learnt from friends is, 'charging', and how long it can take if a supercharger is not available! No matter, the MG4 is very nice and may have swayed me if it had been available in early 2022 when I traded in my old Jag for a newer one. Keep up the good work.
@eclecticcyclist2 жыл бұрын
Even in base spec a budget car with no serious downsides. The performance model coming out next year could be the genuine young person's EV hot hatch.
@steeltribe39672 жыл бұрын
Have had the ZS EV for nearly a year and everyone in the family uses it whenever they get the chance, an all-around favorite. Great car.
@Taylorjay992 жыл бұрын
I had a 2014 MG3 for 2 years and it definitely felt cheap but no more cheap than the likes of a Corsa for example. Definitely great "bang for your buck". My only complaint was that it needed a new clutch at 40k miles which seemed premature to me... People like to slate them still because "they're not a real MG" and they're made in china but the "real" MGs had their faults and Volvo are chinese these days so I really don't see the issue. Great review
@ca63602 жыл бұрын
Tell me if put A. a small petro engine that could charge EV instead of plugging in would that not be better? B. Put a row or several rows of turbines on the roof that turn from the wind that would charge the car? Possibly magnetically accellerated faster than the wind but wind gets them moving
@jimmys65662 жыл бұрын
@@ca6360 good questions. I'll answer you if you tell me how old you are
@CaiSpidox2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had a 2017mg3 for about 2 years, was going to need a new clutch too, but everything else was spot on. I swapped it to a micra even though it was a better quality car and better mpg while being faster having a turbo...I missed the mg3 compared too. It was a bargain as well! I really do think it is the..'its Chinese' So I'm gonna hate it with every review being biased. I even test drove an mg6 and loved that too, handled well while being as comfy as my rover 75
@michaelgates46412 жыл бұрын
I would honestly have no problem buying an MG and don’t see the badge as any less than a Kia, Hyundai or Renault and I’d certainly rather this than a Peugeot or a Vauxhall. If you’re buying a car - for the purpose of being a car, why not? Different matter if you want performance or a toy perhaps, but st that money it’s no more than an equivalent spec ICE family hatch. Looks smart, well equipped and if it drives well enough, I see this as a decent family car/commuter if you can have a toy for the driving you actually want to do.
@mr.pac.46142 жыл бұрын
I’ll be waiting for the performance model. I owned one of the last MGZS 2.5 V6 for 8 years and clocked 100k miles with no problems. A lovely car and was proud driving the MG. I wish I still had it.
@trev85912 жыл бұрын
Absolutely I'd drive that. But I'll stick with my 13 year old diesel Volvo that does 65mpg until it goes to the big scrapheap in the sky.
@EcceJack2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as long as there's decent mpg, the most environmentally friendly car is the one you already have, so I'll be doing the same (although my Ford's mpg is definitely rather less than 65!), but it's good to see what the future holds in store! I look forward to seeing this car on the roads, and eventually the 2nd hand market, and what it will hopefully do to the competition
@therealjpster2 жыл бұрын
@@EcceJack that’s not strictly true though. You can burn through enough fuel to match the CO2 of building a new car in 10,000 to 30,000 miles so it depends on how much you drive. Engineering Explained has run the numbers and made a good video on it.
@WilliamStevens0072 жыл бұрын
I am in the same boat with my Fiat Stilo JTD.
@garethlandy58452 жыл бұрын
If you want the ultimate smug face then convert your current ICE car to an EV.
@Neojhun2 жыл бұрын
@@EcceJack "most environmentally friendly car is the one you already" Not relevant anymore. The number of cars being manufactured has collapsed. You have no real way to effect the number of cars being scrapped and replaced. It is entirely up to the supply of cars available. Just because a singular person keeps their old car has negligible effect to all registered cars on the road. The less cars that are being manufactured, the longer old cars are kept.
@NeilBlanchard2 жыл бұрын
I love the 17" wheels - VW needs to take a hint on this. Slightly smaller wheels let you go farther on a charge, all else being equal. RWD is awesome! If it had a volume knob and a slightly shallower "plinth" for the shift knob - it was pretty close to your left knee. Having the space for your leg is a god-send for us taller folks - I am 6'-4"/~173cm and center consoles are the bane of too many cars.
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
You are right, tall people don't want big consoles - let's celebrate the flat floor car chassis with more open cabin design.
@Brinta32 жыл бұрын
6’-4”/173? Did you mean 193?
@NeilBlanchard2 жыл бұрын
@@Brinta3 Yes, I didn't convert correctly. Thanks!
@stormmy662 жыл бұрын
I currently drive a 40kw Leaf and really like it but would absolutely drive the MG4. I would also choose it over an ID3. The Leaf was not compared in this video, not a surprise because first impressions, its better in almost every way, and for less money.
@davidpereira92382 жыл бұрын
Finally an EV with practical motorway range (able to go for almost 3h at 70mph after a quick rest stop) at a decent price. And it's not a SUV!!! Hurray!
@richardhargrave60822 жыл бұрын
Another great review! I think this is a game changer, proving just how overpriced the VWs and Cupras are, even Kia I think people want a range of 300 miles for a reasonable price I don't know if I want one, but I'm interested in what the rest of the industry will do in response. At least there are some interestig EVs coming out, for a reasonable price without a load of silly gimmicks
@PaddyWV2 жыл бұрын
Often thought of Kia and Hyundai when I read of the early sneery reviews of MGs. People laughed at the Kia Pride and Hyundai Pony years ago. Now look at those two. MG seems to have done this "brand growing" in an nth of the time.
@mickmcc21582 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual. I’m so apprehensive about the EV jump but your essential videos will always guide the way.
@Draigthedragon2 жыл бұрын
Good review. Plenty of information. Personally, I'd never pay more for a badge. Reliability and build quality yes, but I'd always go for the value option. The likes of VW should be getting very nervous.
@dougonutube2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered an MG4 Trophy after a fun test drive, to replace our 3yr old MG ZS EV. The ZS EV has been a brilliant car, and at the time it was best in class, but the MG4 is a big step up again! So, I'm really pleased with MG as a brand, good build quality (after 3 years the ZS EV shows no rattles or other aging signs), good reliability, good support from dealers - but now we can get excellent range and great styling too - and for the price, an absolute no brainer!!
@lesliemarsh67292 жыл бұрын
I have put a deposit on the mg4 se lr. Today but I got to wait till January 2023 till estimates delivery So I have instructed MG to give me a 2023 23 plate when I receive it in march 2023. That’s a long wait. But it gives me time to get an ev charging box attached to the garage. Good entertaining informative thoughtful programmes. Thanks
@111msw2 жыл бұрын
Currently driving a Toyota Hybrid which is great but, I would seriously consider this if moving over to full electric….interested in the seating position as I prefer at my age a higher position for ease of getting in and out…..GREAT REVIEW 👍
@FieryToast12 жыл бұрын
Initial reaction, I’d pick this over an ID.3, Zoe, e corsa, e208 etc in a heartbeat. Why spend the extra when you don’t have to? Brand loyalty = Consumer stupidity IMO. I think this could be the most important car to launch in Europe this year. Will wait for some more reviews to say for sure though. I’m particularly looking forward to Bjorn Nyland putting it through its paces 😊
@aye36782 жыл бұрын
Amazing EV imo. And at a reasonable price! Really considering getting the top spec model!
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain2 жыл бұрын
I can actually see myself driving this, quite a fan of the ID3 and was at the time the only EV I would have considered but the MG4 looks so much better, the interior is quite familiar to my C4 Cactus very minimalist, I think MG are going to be the king's of EV very soon, another great review Mr Smith.
@69jomen Жыл бұрын
Jonny Smith must be the best Motoring Journalist on KZbin. He really goes into total detail and anybody interested gets to see and hear all the answers customers normally ask for. Recently I watched another critic describing the Hyundai IONIQ 5 but at the same time comparing and running it down whilst comparing it to some BMW. Please...... I wouldnt be watching if i was (heaven help me) interested in that BMW. Before closing he actually chose the BMW ahead of the Hyundai......What a joke....
@catmandoodoo79032 жыл бұрын
I think I now know what our next car will be. Even the charge point is in the right place for when reversed up the drive. Brilliant!
@noahderrington51562 жыл бұрын
Great review, this is exactly the car I have been waiting for. I love the Ioniq5 but it’s too expensive. I have a Golf and that form factor is so practical, this MG does look like an great EV option.
@DrMatthewhannah2 жыл бұрын
Got one on order, beyond excited! Thanks Jonny
@undecided25 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonny. Just about to order a white SE standard range so your excellent review helped a lot. One thing that reviewers are missing though is the battery chemistry for the standard range (LFP) and long range (NMC). As most EV users actually do relatively short journeys, the standard range LFP that can happily charge from 0% to 100% all day long would generally be sufficient for every day use. Even using fake WLTP figures, 100% of 218 miles is 218 !!. However where the long range NMC battery should only be charged to 80% on a routine basis, you end up with a similar "actual" WLTP figure of 224 miles (281 X 80% = 224 miles).Charging an NMC battery to 100% on a regular basis apparently damages the cells. Also the LFP battery has a far greater charge cycle count than the NMC battery. When I fist test drove the MG4 I too thought that a long range SE was the sweet spot but now i'm not so sure. Unless you are regularly going to do road trip level miles, I can't see any reason why the standard range SE would't be the sweet spot for most peoples daily needs. The fake WLTP situation has just replaced the fake MPG figures for ICE cars and i think manufactures dealers and indeed reviewers are missing the opportunity to finally inject some true clarity into the actual mileage that EVs will do and in fact what EV drivers are doing on a daily basis. Unless that is i'm completely missing something. Anyhooo, thanks for a great informative video.
@geoffmorris1769 Жыл бұрын
I do tend to agree with you. I’ve had an MG5 for two years and it was a wonderful car. I’ve traded in for an MG4 SE standard range. It’s a lovely vehicle. Totally different from the MG5. However, so far my miles per KWH in the cold weather have been a bit disappointing at 2.8. I’m sure this will improve massively as temperatures rise. For most people, the standard range car is more than enough. It is very rare that I do a trip of 200 miles. When I have done, rapid charging hasn’t been a problem using reliable chargers like Instavolt. I’m not sure that for most people, it’s worth paying £3.5K more for a long range battery. I may be wrong, but, not for me.
@daedalusrho Жыл бұрын
Really interesting. I might have opted for the long range battery had I not known this, but it sounds like the NMC would be the way to go for my kind of mileage.
@RBcymru2 жыл бұрын
Cupra born is bigger inside than the MG or the Kia E Niro. Cupra infotainment is a bit laggy on start up but works well. The MG does look very different "taking" design ideas from other cars. If you want a large family EV the ID3 and Cupra Born beat all other cars but cost a bit more. Pity the KIA wasn't bigger inside as I like the look and KIA's are built very well. I bought a Cupra Born V2 62kwh as it suited my family needs. MG would have been in the running if I didn't need the interior leg room.
@iwanjones56572 жыл бұрын
Great video once again! As an MG enthusiast it’s great to see some great interest in the MG brand once again. This looks like a great car and I’m very much looking forward to the next MGs using this platform.
@darrenball46202 жыл бұрын
I love my MGs (ZT and TF) also owned a SAIC MG6 previously, all great cars. My son also has an MG ZT, his girlfriend has an MG3 and her dad has just bought a facelift MG3 too as he was so impressed with the value they offer. Looking forward to something sporty from them in future - even though the new cars are all way out of my price range!
@kindface2 жыл бұрын
If SAIC is going to accord the same respect to the MG brand as Geely has the Volvo badge, and there's every reason to think SAIC will, MG's second wind is probably going to be a long, successful one.
@fepatton2 жыл бұрын
I like it! I wish they were available in the US. Sounds like a great set of features and excellent range. As a multiple electric car owner, I agree with your assessment about the range here being ideal.
@michalandrejmolnar37152 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can thank Trump for that that no Chinese car ever will come to the US
@kimsong46592 жыл бұрын
@@michalandrejmolnar3715 Except for Polestar 1 probably? But other polestars would be built in North Carolina afterwards... Good for US jobs anyways I guess
@pault12892 жыл бұрын
As Jonny says, MG feels like a value brand to me. But that's a hell of a discount compared to its competitors. Kudos to Jonny for being frank about his own prejudices, I think I'm with him on this one. With a challenging financial mess ahead for the next couple of years, I think more people will forego the brand snobbery, especially as those brands often fail to earn our custom. Is MG the new Skoda or Kia? 🤔
@iantill2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all the comments here, what an excellent, well thought through and well executed review. Not only did I enjoy it, but Jonny, you tapped into many of my feelings about the new SAIC incarnation of MG. The biggest point is that you gave it a fair chance, judged it purely on what it is and does and didn't just pigeon hole it and spend the rest of the review trying to find fault or abusing it. I'm absolutely intrigued by these cars and am coming around to the idea that when our old 53 plate CR-V finally gives up (or I give up maintaining it) that a ZSEV might be an option, or better still, downsize to one of these. I'm really impressed and now I feel I should be asking for a test drive myself.
@MrMannakin2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, this is the first convincing EV from any manufacturer. Well done MG and nice review Johnny as always.
@johnsmith-cw3wo2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a Tesla ! comes with farting noises ! Tesla Model 3: £51,090. Tesla Model 3 Long Range: £60,090. Tesla Model 3 Performance: £62,590.Aug 16, 2022
@malcolmstagg702 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review. Most comprehensive one of the MG4 that I've seen so far. Got my MG4 SE Long Range on order, going to seem a very long wait ! :-)
@TomCamies2 жыл бұрын
How long are the wait times?
@Paulo-ov4yo2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I remember when Japanese cars were looked down on; Chinese cars are only getting better, especially EV.
@JonathanPorterfield2 жыл бұрын
The best review yet of the MG4 👏👏 no faff , just honest observation, as always , top draw sir ! Yes we brits are badge snobs , but this is on the change in these cash tight times. I too dont 'get' the ID3 , looks and feel cheep inside , and bland outside.
@NealMcQuaid2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and a good insight. Couple of items you missed: - the Trophy gets a raised floor in the boot as an extra option. Why you'd want to lose the extra space is beyond me, but hey, whatever you're into! - the Trophy also gets storage slots on the back of each front seat for rear passengers. Minor item but useful. - tow rating of 500kg across the range: excellent! - no roof rack: the one item that stops it from becoming a direct competitor to the Niro EV. Lastly, and related to the last statement: the new Niro EV is €11,000 MORE than the Trophy MG4 in Ireland. Wow...... Personally, I'd love all the spec of the Trophy model, but in the long-range SE body so allow the maximum range........ Deposit is down and still time to decide
@Lazydonkey_2 жыл бұрын
I think the comparison with the early Japanese and Korean cars is valid. Ignore MG at your peril. Great review. And good pheasant and grandfather clock content... something sadly missing from the yoof reviewers 😅
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
If I can I always pop a pheasant and G'father clock ref into my MG reviews.
@jd_992 жыл бұрын
Except this is the start of subscription washing machines, or disposable washing machines
@ForeverNeverwhere12 жыл бұрын
@@jd_99 probably both, but we all need washing machines.
@CaptainHoratioPugwash2 жыл бұрын
Except early Japanese and Korean cars weren't rebranded to weaponise British nostalgia from an authoritarian country. Do. Not. Support. China.
@Lazydonkey_2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainHoratioPugwash I'm sure you don't buy anything made in china. Good for you.
@scottishfanta2 жыл бұрын
I can totally see myself owning one of those, if they age well and finance options are good in a few years, this might be my first electric car
@petere81292 жыл бұрын
Another stellar and in-depth review which I really appreciate, you always cover what any prospective buyer would want to know and the ones we forget to ask. Totally would buy an MG, build and components look mid range in comparison to other manufactures but what swings it for me is the spec being so good for something that price especially with the future proofing.
@derykhawkins2199 Жыл бұрын
Go live in china then !!!
@CutdarthvaderWOT Жыл бұрын
I sell these and love them. I have come from Volvo and a decent spec Volvo EV is over £50k. The trophy is about £31k. I love Volvo but I would buy an MG4 great car!!! Great video.
@MrAdopado2 жыл бұрын
In the middle of the analysis comes the grandfather clock, eating my soup moment! Delightful ... same in my grandparents house! I did chuckle because you are spot on. Not just amusing but representing the comfort that the car style evokes. Magical bit of observation and editing. Maybe it's time for driver selectable indicator sounds! I would definitely consider this car.
@henrybeazely29082 жыл бұрын
Air conditioning on Jonny? You OK?
@DavidJones-dq7iu2 жыл бұрын
Really great review. These MGs are making me really consider one for the next car. I am still concerned that I many do motorway driving and over 400 miles per week but I have a drive and home every night.
@asdreww2 жыл бұрын
Honestly sounds like a brilliant car for the price. Vehicle to load is the key thing that most are missing & I think the big differentiator over the next few years. Get this, you don't need a £10k home battery.
@bluemountain4181 Жыл бұрын
On EV-database it says it's vehicle-to-load but not vehcile-to-home, so not quite replacing home batteries yet. I.e. with an adaptor you can run a three pin socket from the car's charging port but you can't plug it in to your home charger and run the whole house. But hopefully V2H will come soon.
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Shop around, and you'll find that £10k home battery is probably nearer £6k
@dansmith69092 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not calling it "affordable" or "cheap" Jonny, You're the only one not doing that, too. Reviews which do that for £25,000+ (and more, even approaching £40,000) cars incense me.. Our last new car was less than £10,000. I've done the numbers on the lower running costs but all that does is prove once again that you need money to make or save money. I like Robert Llewellyn because he used to be Kryten but You're my favourite reviewer of EVs.
@gohumberto Жыл бұрын
I think this is a great car review channel. It hits a sweet-spot of what I actually want to know about a car (and that doesn't involve how quickly it goes round the Nurburgring). The MG4 looks great, I have a 5 year old 30KWHr Nissan Leaf. It's perfect except for 2 things .... range, and the crazy Chademo charger. That mean I have 2 cars. This and the MG5 look like cars will replace my 2 cars. I think they both accept towbars.... because I need to pull a 500kg trailer.
@trzarector2 жыл бұрын
MG have been making silent but great moves lately and I believe this is the start of the brands revival in Europe. I'm glad to see the MG brand back, such a great marque that was squandered and as now as an EV it brand couldn't be more perfect.
@rjhandley5562 жыл бұрын
Great review Jonny as ever. In answer to your question in the video, i would much prefer to drive something like this vs an ID3 at the price point. If i was going down the EV route (which i will be in about 18 months), MG is a brand i'd give serious consideration to. It's great value for money by the looks of it, decent design and the interior really does it for me. As someone who has a few other cars for my weekend fun, i could well see myself in this as a daily. Like you mention at the end, me 8 years ago would have gone for a badge that looks cool (Audi, BMW), but i'm just not convinced by those brands when it comes to EVs or quality anymore. I think i'd now prefer a top spec "lesser" badge than a rubbish spec "top" badge.
@derykhawkins2199 Жыл бұрын
Go live in china then !!!
@andrewp3648 Жыл бұрын
Had my mg5 for a couple of years now. Saved thousands compared to petrol, had no problems and not noticing any drop in range. Been really good value so far.
@martinatkinson4427 Жыл бұрын
The important thing about the Standard Range model is that it has LFP battery chemistry which can be cycled 10 times more than the usual NMC batteries. They are less energy dense but can be packed more tightly as they are not so thermally delicate. Recent Standard Range Tesla Model 3s use them. That is why the MG4 Standard Range SE does not need the cooling slats at the front. They are safer and generally preferred by the Chinese manufacturers. As they are heavier they are suited to buses and stationary batteries. They are a bit cheaper and less dependent on geopolitical problem areas for the ingredients. Ford are investing heavily in LFP going forward with their large scale committment to EVs
@Dreador.2 жыл бұрын
Jonny pretty much spot on review my only comment would be Im not convinced on the range argument. Why buy a car that costs 2k more if you simply don't need that range day to day, especially if you factor in its a family car then a long run with kids means stopping at services etc for food mid journey so just charge then for those one offs. With the above it then comes down to economics how many years would it be that you would pay more for fast charging over home charging the bigger battery remembering that the fast charge would be to top up not be the whole journey, minus the additional wear on tyres etc carry the extra weight. Same argument could be why buy a golf, get a golf estate for the 2-3 skip runs you do a year.
@alexmckenna11712 жыл бұрын
A worthy successor to the MG Magnette. Should sell extremely well..
@scottjones17152 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, cheers Jonny. Love your level of detail and knowledge of the actual competition, and how honest you always are.
@appkazooio15012 жыл бұрын
That looks a really great option. If they can make MG4s for that price range then hopefully we can have smaller, compact, lower range cars for under £20K
@AirsoftAbominations2 жыл бұрын
@markyes can you read? said smaller and shorter range. think eUp size
@AirsoftAbominations2 жыл бұрын
@markyes find something cheaper with as many features you don't need to put Dino juice in
@AirsoftAbominations2 жыл бұрын
@markyes my 'petrol' bill last month was £20 to do 2000 miles... It's not avoiding fossil fuels. It's just straight cheaper
@AirsoftAbominations2 жыл бұрын
@markyes brand new fix started this month. 2.45p per mile. Be an idiot not to be on an ev tariff with an ev. Battery will last longer than you'll likely own the car 15 years to 80% typically. Still far cheaper than petrol at 30-40p/mile and I spend less leasing my 'shit' mg than I'd be paying on petrol on any non electric and it's a fraction the monthly cost of a tesla
@appkazooio15012 жыл бұрын
@markyes Sorry I don't debate with morons!
@fredgaine13302 жыл бұрын
I'd happily have the top spec of this instead of a base model i.d3 thanks Johnny. Yeah I am cheap like that. I think we are paying way too much for a badge sometimes. Currently driving a good ol' Kia e Niro FE. 😊
@kenizzard2 жыл бұрын
Very tempting. I currently have a 2012 BMW 118d coupe. Bought it new and now it’s 10 would love to get a new one. Unfortunately not only is it’s replacement (218 coupe) not available as an EV but it’s now front wheel drive. The 118 coupe has 50/50 front rear distribution and 0-100km of about 8 seconds. This looks like a great replacement as long as I put my brand blinkers on!
@roblake33502 жыл бұрын
MG have really had an amazing rise over the last few years and the current product is great and gets better with every launch. They are also positioning themselves to grab a sizeable share of the market in coming years. It may not be the MG of old, but it’s great to see the brand doing well and leading the way in affordable EV’s for the masses. Proof that you can offer the consumer value and be successful - something most car manufacturers have forgotten in the pursuit of ever higher margins.
@leopold75622 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at a BEV ever since I was able to join the fleet scheme at work. Sadly, the prices have all gone up since I started six months ago and even the ID.3 has gone from doable to too expensive. But the MG4 is definitely on the fringes of affordable. I've got to say, the Chinese have done a good job on this one, I like how it looks, it has useful levels of kit and it seems it'll be the ideal commuter car. I've booked a test drive, I'm keen to see just how nice it is for myself.
@thirdofherne92322 жыл бұрын
That's the first EV I've seen that I actually like the look of. I think when it has the mentioned switchable battery pack it'll clean up on the volume EV market.
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
It's unlikely there will be any "switchable" battery packs. There are two big issues. 1. What happens to your 8 year battery warranty if you have it "switched"? 2. After the switch, how could you be sure you didn't end up with someone else's abused battery? Battery swapping stations would be unviable to operate. They would need to be open 24/7, and be at least double manned for H & S reasons. They would need to keep dozens of different types and capacities of battery packs, fully charged, and in stock to cater for the different models of EV..... It's not happening anytime soon. Tesla dropped the concept of battery swapping in 2013, in favour of their Supercharger network, which can add 75 miles of range for every 5 minutes the car is hooked up to the charger. Increased charging infrastructure and faster charging times will render battery swapping pointless.
@thirdofherne9232 Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh I wasn't talking about "battery swapping stations", we're talking having user swappable 'suitcase' batteries that you swap out at home, have one set charging on a wall charger in your home whilst the other set is in the car. No need for a driveway or garage or for cables trailing out into the street. You underestimate how many (city) drivers don't have these things.
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
Since getting my Renault Zoe in 2020, I’ve not had much trouble with finding charging points. By the way, Tesco at Brookfield Shopping Centre has new 75KwH charging points in the car park.
@recumbentrocks29292 жыл бұрын
Best review of the MG4 I have seen so far. Johnny knows his stuff.
@steveholderness14502 жыл бұрын
Swapping my Peugeot e-208 GT for a Long Range SE. I prefer the looks of the Peugeot inside and out, but it appears that the MG4 betters it in every other measurable way (and for less money!) Fantastic detail in your review as ever 👏🏻
@nolansdavid2 жыл бұрын
Would I like the Pug if I was younger or is it a sign of my age? Who cares, they are making nice looking cars IMO.
@VolkerHett2 жыл бұрын
I might swap my Corsa-e for a MG4 next year. I'm unsure if Stellantis can beat the MG4.
@PerdixDesignLtd2 жыл бұрын
As always, loving Jonny's honesty. I guess most people felt the same about MG originally. Brand snobbery is still a thing, but that's changing with the dynamics of the Pacific rim manufacturers. Traditional Western producers are going to have to change quickly, or they'll go to the wall.
@wabudo2 жыл бұрын
Great video and great car! Thank you Jonny for giving us your unbiased opinion once again.
@keithskelton55962 жыл бұрын
Sounds brilliant Can you please set out a 12 month retrospective cost reconciliation Include lease purchase costs Insurance Service cost Total running costs How long is the warranty ( extendable at what cost to ten years) Thanks a great deal
@johnlumb10782 жыл бұрын
I am seriously considering getting the Citroen EC4 (maybe EC4x) mainly due to the fact that I have multiple spinal injuries and the comfort is amazing, but, this has really tweaked my interest.
@CyclicPilot2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, and this car has piqued my interest! One thing seems odd - the standard range model appears to have a slightly lower miles/kWh efficiency compared to the long range. I'd expect standard range to do the same or slightly better, as it's lighter. I'd be interested to know how the real world range and efficiency of the two battery sizes compare.
@alxgu1982 жыл бұрын
11:40 It’s because of the aerodynamics 👍 Good spot though.