Desktop Environments Have Made Me Lazy

Today I talk about my time with desktop environments and why they kinda made me lazier.
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[@TheLinuxCast]

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[@rc2276]

There's nothing wrong with a de just relax, get your work done, turn it off and get on with your day.

[@christosbinos8467]

@@rc2276 The problem with the Linux community at large is that people use things as a proxy for identity. They don't use them instrumentally, which is a problem, because they are instruments to a goal.

[@pamina6572]

To each their own. I find fiddling away my afternoons tinkering with my Linux rigs more satisfying than flushing the moments of my life down the toilet by gaming or letting my toddler fry in the car while I do the slots at the local casino.

[@zherka_pill]

i don`t use DE any more but understand why people use DE

[@Tired_Night_Owl_in_the_Woods]

​@@pamina6572 so it's your hobby. People have a lot other hobbies, which are not connected with computers, gaming or gambling, you know😅

[@no_name4796]

I personally install fedora kde spin, then install hyprland and enjoy hyprland with kde taking care of things like essential app, settings, themes and so on It's not being lazy, it's not wanting to dig through kilometer of internet text to understand how to force gtk to make app dark themed or solve similar problems lol

[@Flackon]

“A window is like a door” Zen advice, right there

[@danielescada6785]

@@Flackon A burglar would agree.

[@andreim4302]

Cosmic desktop has separate workspaces per monitor. It’s still in alpha and has lots of things to work on, but that’s one of the features I was also looking for and couldn’t find in any other desktop

[@whiskytangofoxtrot_]

Theres been an open github issue on kde since like version 3.1 or something crazy for this feature

[@Aoitori365]

why can't you just be happy?

[@TheLinuxCast]

being happy is overrated

[@HawaiianForgeStudios]

@@TheLinuxCast I know you're joking, but it really does sound like you're unhappy.

[@namoroke]

See 5 videos of this Channel and you'll find that he gets bored of about any single thing he installs on his computer in a blink of an eye.

[@thefablesfolly]

Linux users like pain

[@TheLinuxCast]

@@namoroke using openSUSE for over a year

[@maxreuv]

"I am a digitally organized person" - I'm printing that, framing in gold, and hanging proudly in my cubicle :)

[@programadorIgnoto]

If you pin your application in the task bar, all active windows stay in that icon and all is better organized.

[@Rbourk252]

When you get old, fussing around in a text file to get the dte to work will be the last thing you will want to do. I got a garden to grow and other stuff. I just need the computer to turn on, and let me do my stuff and get out. I learned a long time ago how much precious life can be spent staring into a monitor. Interesting though it is. That probably why I never went for WMs. Too much faff. Saying that I do enjoy time listening to your ramblings 😂.

[@TheLinuxCast]

@@Rbourk252 woah woah woah. Old? You take that back!😂

[@DarkVoiderFrom03]

It's why i went back to windows just works no fuss and im only 21 yrs old I don't wanna spend a huge amount of time on the computer when I just want to go outside to an event or something and when I come back home I turn on my computer and I just want it to work

[@Rbourk252]

@@TheLinuxCast 😂 you’ll get there one day.

[@Rbourk252]

@@DarkVoiderFrom03 Windows burned me decades ago. It wasn’t so stable then. I had a small business fixing it. Most of the fixes were done by accessing windows file systems via Linux live cd. I’d replace corrupted files and remove malicious files. Even then my preferred go to OS was Linux. I haven’t run Windows for decades. All the trust has gone. The big blue screen of death was all too common and I just couldn’t be done with it and all the dodgy registry fixers. Moreover, when I discovered that Windows had a protected memory mode design error that caused hell, I dropped it and wouldn’t throw good money at it again. I’m told Windows is okay these days but I’m too used to Linux now. I have an iPad Pro that I travel around with but besides that I use Linux Mint. I have a Windows virtual box that I use to update my old Garmin satnav but I don’t use it for anything else.

[@DarkVoiderFrom03]

@@Rbourk252 Windows has been stable & reliable since windows 7 ive used it for years and ive never seen BSODs unless it's a hardware problem or i broke the os in some way

[@NoMastersNoMistress]

As an OS/2 Warp enjoyer of Olde, I still appreciate XFCE the most.

[@marksulloway5669]

Mine was BeOS. Agree with XFCE.

[@gregcampwriter]

Desktop environments feel like a real desk with various objects at hand to be used. As much of a Trekkie as I am, I don't see that I could get used to an LCARS setup, and from what I've seen of window managers, I doubt that I'd be any more productive after many hours of learning the new system. But that's one of many good things about Linux. We have choices.

[@imaquackaholic]

That's why I run Pop! OS. If I want windows, I can use windows. If I want tiling, I can use tiling. I can't wait for Cosmic's full release.

[@sortof3337]

i was always the tiling guy. switched to kde with scripts for tiling. never looked back. kde is the rest step for wondering souls.

[@BonFromageTech]

I do like to tinker with window managers, but as far as desktop environments go, I've always felt most at home with XFCE. You did a video a while back about customizing XFCE, and while my setup doesn't go quite as far as you did, I do like the rounded borders in the panel, and have used that on my system. Thanks for that! Right now I have my desktop set up with 9 workspaces (borrowing the names from DT), and I actually don't mind the workspaces using both monitors, it helps me keep different tasks organized. I set up a keybinding for the application launcher so it functions like Rofi, and removed the application menu from the panel. I also use the 2nd panel for the action buttons, so I can power off or restart in 2 clicks. Now, here I am rambling. :) From one Linux nerd to another, ramble on my friend.

[@riseabove3082]

That's exactly what I hate about TWM is that I hate, cannot stand, full screen windows. Drives me nuts. It feels so noob to see. All my non-computer savvy users at work full screen everything, their web browser, chat window, email, it is so odd to me to look at. Nope, not for me. I do agree on the workspaces issue. That drives me nuts too. I have to say - OUT OF ALL THE LINUX KZbinRS - I REALLY ENJOY watching your videos because your opinions are so honest and real and thorough. Really enjoy your channel.

[@Martan404]

@@riseabove3082 Brodie Robertson also make great Linux content in my opinion. I watch him and Matt a lot

[@GoodGirlPeruru]

@@riseabove3082 It's the standard thing to do nowadays, even I'm guilty of it, but I'd really like not to be. Trying to be more mindful of things being bigger than they need to be :p

[@hey3814]

MATE is love, MATE is life

[@Tall_Order]

Even though I'm an XFCE guy, MATE is still my next favorite.

[@DBBravo]

I daily drive Cinnamon but MATE carried an old 2004 laptop I had so hard.

[@fredmckinney8933]

@@Tall_Order Ditto

[@guidovera9748]

Gnome doesn't use workspaces on every monitor for some time already, you can change it on the multitasking setting so it only changes workspaces on one monitor (the main one)

[@OrcsBR]

Yes but it doesnt really solves the issue.

[@telliott]

I love KDE! Coming from Windows, it's a good fit. I don't use multiple desktops. If you are using the mouse more, you should set up icons on the Vivaldi toolbar to switch workspaces. I have vision issues also. I have larger icons. One thing I love about KDE Wayland is how easy it is to quickly zoom in on things that are hard to see like details or text in an image. Just hold ctrl-start and move the mouse wheel. if I want to sit back and read a large amount of text, I just zoom till the text fills the screen left to right and scroll till I'm done. If you haven't tried that zoom shortcut, you will love it.

[@IndigoTeddy]

Have you considered swapping KWin or Mutter w/ a different WM when running KDE or GNOME? I heard ppl combine XFCE w/ i3 (for example) and enjoy it, so maybe combining the best of both worlds might scratch your tinkering itch for a bit longer Edit: continued watching and heard your stance on current Wayland WMs, so maybe this suggestion should be put onto the back burner

[@TActually]

Great video Matt. I use desktops the way you use workspaces, but even still, I wish I could do it on a per-monitor basis. You could utilize activities too, which allows you to group application together, on 1 screen, since that's your thing. Also, I beg to differ on your ricing is not as fun in DEs. A good theming in KDE includes making sure that your GTK theme lines up and kvantum -- which also requires configuration. I keep wanting to get into WMs, but the configuration is always just past my attention span when it comes to tinkering. I like that DEs will function OOB so that I can tinker in my spare time.

[@neusprach]

We all have to go through the WM phase. Then we need to do some actual work and end up with a DE.

[@trollerbladdering]

For me, KDE has always been the DE that almost nailed it, but somehow they brutally screwed up something minor in such a way that it becomes a major impairment. EDIT: Personally I love the DualUp. I was using it originally for chat/media on my second/streaming PC, but I moved it to the other side of the room where I have a second desk that's work focused, where I run a 14" MacBook Pro for software development. Being able to have that many lines of code on one screen and not be slim like a vertical display is such an amazing feeling.

[@hrfdude4234]

it really doesn't matter dude! I've learned playing different instruments and I've forgotten most of them! my motto is just enjoy something for what it is and move on! same goes for the tab hording mentality, been there before! also learn as many useless stuff as you can because in 10 years or so in our 40s we might not be interested in learning anything new, trust me! productivity does not always come when you are comfortable sometimes its the exact opposite, dont obsess over efficiency! in my home country theres an old tale about a master glass maker and his apprentice! the master tells him, go blow some glass! after a few minutes the apprentice asks if he could sit and blow instead of standing because he gets tired standing! the master says ok sit then! after another few minutes he asks again: can i lay down and blow? the master again says ok! again, after moments he asks can i be sleeping and blowing at the same time? and the master gets angry and says: if you can be dead and blowing glass, be dead for all i care, just blow! sorry for the rant! we linux users just love ranting! peace🤟

[@BytebroUK]

Hiya. I did about 12 years on Ubuntu, and then eventually swapped over to Garuda with KDE. In my 'hopping', of course, I did try some WMs, but the amount of effort needed to make them how I wanted them was pretty huge. Now on KDE, I can configure almost anything. I agree that one work-space should be separate from all other work-spaces so that I could configure them differently, but hey ho. I'm old, I'm lazy, and I'm not trying to monetise my experiences, just "get along". Of course, your mileage may differ, as they say. FWIW Matt, I like your vids because they make me *think* 🙂

[@FreshTattoo71]

i learn alot on your channel. thanks bro

[@rogueyun9613]

To me it's all about screen real-estate. If it doesn't need to be shown, don't show it. If you show it and I don't want it your desktop environment is stealing part of my screen.

[@delibirdempire4792]

You can disable whatever panels and window borders bother you in KDE. And most window manager users resort to using a bar anyways.

[@lucolesco]

You can disable all panes on Plasma and enable the right-click menu. It basically turns into Openbox visually.

[@nymusicman]

My compromise on the ease of DE and convenience of WM was Archcraft scripts. Really enjoying them. Currently running Hyprland Archcraft scripts/apps. Much easier to customize that starting base then to build from scratch and make sure all hardware/software worked.

[@MarkusHobelsberger]

Even though I'm a power user, I don't find appeal in tiling window managers at all. I like floating and overlapping windows and can work very productively with them. I also don't use too many workspaces. Usually things I don't need right away go on workspace 2, but everything else stays on workspace 1.

[@TrustJesusToday]

Hyprland has spoiled me. I have Budgie hanging around, but all of my PCs are Hyprland (v 0.39 on Fedora or CachyOS). 18 months in Linux taught me one thing: tiling window managers are best for workflow.

[@domsob92]

@@TrustJesusToday Exactly. Here and there I log in to KDE for some reason and it feels like there is so much effort to manage windows, moving, resizing, closing, while in Hyprland you just move your fingers and everying flies around with supersonic speed.

[@daddychan7]

This is why I wish you could run a tiling window manager inside your gnome or KDE session. Let the desktop environment manage the desktop and the window manager manage the windows. I know that the regolith Linux project does something like this but I wish it was just plug and play.

[@Nina-cd2eh]

I still use a barebones sway on my laptop to be productive, but I hate the WM experience on a desktop especially if you want to rice it and tailor it in a consistent manner. I hate that there isn't a WM that has a unified experience like a DE and you just have to rely on everything "third party" and written in a different language. All DEs drop the ball on tiling, and it's sad. I just want KDE with proper tiling/auto-tiling, or a proper WM with everything KDE has. Maybe Cosmic could one day be that. The constant need for every WM to be "minimalist", or DE to be "mouse first", is really holding the desktop experience back.

[@k.b.tidwell]

I never dreamed I'd have an acceptable place to rant about "this", but here you've given me one, Matt... Kitchen cabinets. My wife constantly gripes at me about the kitchen cabinets. "When you get something out of the cabinet, CLOSE THE CABINET DOOR!" It's much more efficient to just leave the doors open so that I can both see everything there and quickly get out what I need throughout the...throughout eternity. I get you, Matt.

[@OrcsBR]

Wow me too!!! I can see a pattern forming!!! I''m also a tab and window hoarder.

[@k.b.tidwell]

@@OrcsBR lol. I have a collection myself.

[@JohnMcChungus]

Honestly this is a really good video. It's like a perfect showcase of the value of convenience, and how convenience can degrade interest in "effort". I'm certainly not criticising you for choosing to stay with a DE, it's valid to do so, it's just really interesting to me.

[@PaulMrPKcom]

Agree on workspaces. I use eighter multiple monitors and one workspace, or single monitor and multiple workspaces

[@proletar-ian]

Programming doesn't have to be tied to a DE or WM! I tend to use near-vanilla DEs and work on programming other things. DEs generally stay out of my way and are, as you say, very easy to use and don't get in the way of what I'm doing as long as I go with the DE's path of least resistance

[@mattjax16]

@@proletar-ian it has nothing to do with programming lmao you can code shit up in any environment

[@gadzbi123]

Nerduxiry rant sounds good for me. I love most of your rants and I also love to use my chrome browser on linux, which waits 3 seconds before i start typing in a comment

[@ThePressurizer]

I really like your KDE theming. Can you tell me what you used? I'm somewhat of a noob when it comes to KDE, I'm an old XFCE- and Gnome user.

[@anthonybeyond]

At the time of posting, I am current using lxqt as my DE. This DE does not making me lazy at all. For anything, lxqt has been good for my desktop & laptop in the sense that I do not have to deal with too many dependences and other bloatware related problems that normal comes with modern day DEs like Gnome, KDE Plasma, & Cinnamon. Good thing lxqt, xfce, & MATE still exist as alternatives! :)

[@8lec_R]

I'm new to Linux I like how your kde looks, what are the main changes you made to make it look like that? Thanks

[@valandilvieneriff9229]

I honestly loved your take on KDE from the perspective of your personal workflow that you are comfortable with i do not see it as a rant but rather an interesting take :) i find my self wondering have you tried the tiling features in KDE with multi monitors setup that you have ? PS: i know its probably very limited compared to a full blown tiling manager but just wondering if it can alleviate the pain of the pile of windows issue

[@code8986]

Yeah, and maybe try one of the window tiling extensions for KDE like Bismuth or Polonium.

[@willi1978]

i looked at window managers but never cared enough to configure all that by hand. tiling is good for productivity so i installed cosmic next to my current desktop environment.

[@tonywalker8030]

Mate or gnome throw back is good enough for me

[@anthonybeyond]

MATE updates need to make it to Debian & Debian-based distros a lot sooner. That DE is still relevant.

[@tohur]

TBH window mangers are too much work and too much in the way for me. KDE just works for me. I have tried window managers but disliked it . Floating windows with good snapping is so much better to me

[@user-tw2kr6hg4r]

i really love river, its the most stable dynamic tiling window managers for wayland and generally nice to use. 18:16

[@dxplosiv1]

In Gnome, I for some reason can make workspaces only change on one of my two monitors. I think it's an option in the settings.

[@CD3WD-Project]

Yes but do you prefer curtains or blinds for your windows? That is the real question.

[@johanb.7869]

Vertical blinds slats.

[@ecasteluci]

Hey, man! Dropping by to appreciate your amazing work. Keep up! Cheers from Brazil!

[@code8986]

Luke, join the darKDE side!

[@zoovasoup]

the thing that i really miss in DE is scratchpad

[@code8986]

If you just use it for a terminal, you can get that with KDE Plasma and Yakuake.

[@Xizax41325]

I fully understand the digital organization, IRL complete chaos. I am like that too. I'm going to be switching to Linux here at some point by the end of the year. I am use to DE but was thinking I'd giving hyperland a go having never used a tile manager. That being said, I also hate workspaces. That's why I have 3 monitors.

[@dezmondwhitney1208]

I agree with much of what you have said. I have come to think that KDE and YAST have spoilt me in a way. Although I have often dabbled in the konsol, the point and click nature of openSUSE and YAST make it so easy. This has got to be a good thing for those coming to Linux though. As a committed explorer of the intricacies of the OS, you seem to be looking for your ideal set up and that is fine.

[@code8986]

+1 for openSUSE and KDE

[@ImChaotic1]

I enjoy these vids very entertaining.

[@afroceltduck]

Well, here's another Cosmic comment. This is why I'm excited for the Cosmic desktop. I can have the tiling I love, but I don't have to install a bunch of programs just to get things functioning the way they should. Wallpaper, launcher, compositor, bar -- it's all included in a DE. On the other hand, I like the minimalism of a window manager, and I like being able to simply clone my dotfiles repo and it's all ready to go. I suppose time will tell which solution I end up with long-term, but I like Cosmic's chances.

[@angeldude101]

I feel I should mention that COSMIC's configuration is entirely stored withing $XDG_DATA_HOME/cosmic (~/.local/share/cosmic on most systems) in the form of text files. It's a separate file for every option, but text files nonetheless. If I'm not mistaken, there are some configurations that are possible by editing said files, but aren't exposed in the GUI.

[@marcc5768]

I use Linux Mint 21.3 with Cinnamon, but I also use ICEwm. I find Cinnamon a bit heavy on system ram vs icewm. I also find icewm response time a bit snappier than Cinnamon. For some reason I can't launch Timeshift from the icewm menu, so I go to a Cinnamon session when I need to run Timeshift, I'm happy in icewm. I'm not overly picky on the aesthetics of my screen setup..I choose a simple theme and manually change wallpaper based on my mood with nitrogen when in ICEwm. Cinnamon I have some pre-chosen images for wallpaper in timed slideshow mode.

[@rkadowns]

What you want in workspaces is NOT the norm. I think you’re getting your wish, but then you’ll complain about how you switch between them and losing windows and workspaces. Human interface guidelines matter, are scientifically developed, and tend to cause UIs to end up being similar, because we are all human and interact with things is a similar way. Independent workspaces per monitor is, imo, not a good lead and if exists should be off by default.

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

Edit. Im adding this in front because i just cant not say anything. What is it with keeping this monitor setup? Sunk cost falacy? Stubborness, not wanting to give in because you have seen so many people at this point say, just get a normal monitor setuo? You have literally bought a windows pc, you've complained so much about how hard this monitor makes things for you, in idk how many videos and podcast. Just do the rational thing. And get a different montior set up. And smash that one into 1000 pieces for the catharsis (or sell it on ebay to get money back) I dont think i have ran into any bugs using hyprland at all. At least the current hyprland

[@tmendoza6]

I know that you need way more graphical software then I do but I use Hyperland on my secondary system on Arch and have had zero issues for over 6 months so far

[@soppaism]

A 41 inch monitor? Ok, I've always wondered who are the people buying such weird stuff :D

[@TheLinuxCast]

Amazon

[@markh.6687]

Got a buddy who has a netbook hooked up to a large wall-mounted TV. Nothing like reading something "over his shoulder" from across the room!

[@breadmoth6443]

honestly i think window managers are overrated. If people like setting it up and it works for them great, but I just cannot be bothered to figuring out all the keypresses necessary even for basic use.

[@rjawiygvozd]

When I used plasma, I was able to use window rules to make all of my apps open at the exact workspaces they should be at, and they would all autostart, so it was pretty similar to what I had in window managers or gnome. This didn't really affect the way I usually switch between most used apps in DEs, which is super+number keys, or even when I would click on stuff on the taskbar, but if I felt like opening an overview I would never see a giant pile of windows and they would be organized instead

[@rjawiygvozd]

actually I forgot that I now have one monitor. If you have multiple monitors, plasma workspaces are completely unusable

[@Ralphunreal]

cinnamon master race 💪

[@SilverSeleucid]

do you know how to get bluring to work on cinnamon? I prefer cinnamon over plasma but id like to have kitty and other ui elements be transparent with blur

[@FreshTattoo71]

lol

[@zherka_pill]

DWM on top

[@solehindie]

I love cinnamon. But for now kde on debian is comfy

[@kroan49]

Used cinnamon for 6 months. It's not great. One quirk in particular is dragging URL links to the desktop works like shit in cinnamon. Moved to Gnome until COSMIC is at least beta.

[@infinitivez]

So far (almost a year now) I've loved KDE. There's a few things like the emoji picker, that I hate, and haven't found a decent replacement for just yet. But otherwise, the fact it works so well, and I can set a keyboard shortcut to each window (to keep from alt-tabbing) is perfect. I tried hyperland, but indeed, it hated me too. And I refuse to touch anything that isn't Wayland; I'd sooner go back Windows.

[@ioagel]

The missing feature of independent virtual desktops per monitor in both Gnome and KDE, is a showstopper for me...

[@lairizzle]

omg a 24 minuter les go

[@UKprl]

Sounds a bit like you want some kind of hybrid of KDE for the System Settings including driving the monitors and audio with the convenience of the underlying integration of the frameworks and toolkits, while layering Window Manager features on top for all the tinkering aspects. Although this tends towards franken-systems. For the part on how just clicking themes and colour schemes is boring and instant, I suppose the task of creating a theme/scheme from scratch or by adapting a bunch of existing themes to create derivatives could be more of an analogue to ricing.

[@CandyCaneChris]

I only use a second workspace if I need to quickly hide all the windows I have open.

[@claybford]

You really should try the cosmic alpha, the workspace management is better and the DE is being developed in a way that sounds like it's going to lend itself well to tweaking

[@TheLinuxCast]

@@claybford when it’s out for real I will. I don’t test alpha software

[@claybford]

@@TheLinuxCast fair enough lol. Imho, I would still at least give it a quick look using the pattern that's up for tumbleweed and roll it back to get a sense of the vibe. Set it up yesterday with the pattern and was impressed

[@israeltandrade]

The workspace bind between monitors is my favourite thing on kde 😮 I searched for a wm that have that with no success.

[@thecarpaltunneler]

I'm just an alt tab spammer, a habit I picked up from my time on windows. I usually fullscreen most windows, but I don't keep a lot of windows open.

[@breadmoth6443]

"DE environments have made me lazy" -- no , it has made me not have to worry about every little thing - if some like that great, but i am still on the mindset that - i just need to use my computer , and can't be bothered to put in effort into rather pointless customizations

[@leopard3131]

I wrote a custom theme for gnome-shell years ago , works just fine, was faster than ricing window managers. I am not sure about kde themes. I concur relax and enjoy the de. Spend your time in more productive endeavors.

[@c.dgooec2230]

i love kde, ended up using a window manager because its easier to manage dotfiles and modify them. kde also constantly breaks for me on updates or becomes unstable if i tinker too much with the theming. But really would love to be able to just use it.

[@Book_Bird]

(Question made in good faith) What about the window manager experience, wherein you DO have to go through in depth configuring for all devices and services, is appealing? Is it needing (and enjoying) to understand all levels of your system and how it operates? When something unexpectedly borks and you have to troubleshoot services and configs for potentially a long time, does that feel rewarding or offer some good reinforcement? I think all people with expertise have quirks and eccentricities and things like that in their niche. No judgement. I’ve got it in mine. I’ve always just wondered what someone fully immersed in this stuff gets out of it

[@k.b.tidwell]

Window managers require effort and you forgot how much effort it required. That's me because I started with DE's and if it works why get deeper than that?

[@DylanMatthewTurner]

COSMIC has the chance to make me a DE guy. We'll see

[@stephenduff6877]

Wish i had the time to play with window managers etc! Quite a luxury 😊

[@Linuxdirk]

To me, all DEs are bloated because they contain software and features I do not use. I constantly feel the software getting in my way instead of helping me.

[@jeffreyjoshuarollin9554]

"I'm a digitally-organised person. In real life, I don't organise sh*t." ARE YOU ME?!?!

[@exotericidymnic3530]

The job of the operating system is to get out of your way

[@MrAlanCristhian]

13:12 I challenge myself to no to change my terminal font multiple times a day. I have been using go-mono for like 2 weeks. A new personal record.

[@averagetechnologyenojyer]

if they can you lazy then they can make anyone lazy lol i used the window managers but ended up switching to desktop environments because im too hooked on the defaults lol , also your kde setup looks beautiful if the subject ever interests you, do make a video on what laptops/pc you use, or what you'd recommend would be cool :))

[@wolfisraging]

What happened to Gnome home?

[@gizzmoguy.]

Hey Matt can you share your dot files please?

[@average-arch-enjoyer]

I'm too lazy to rice my windows manager qtile.

[@huljaxful]

I distro hopped a lot and i settled on 2 distros, 2 desktop environments :) linux mint and pop!_os. I think cinnamon is seriously underpreciated. All i know is kde is definitely not for me. I could live with GNOME but only with windows tilling extension. Currently i am using pop!_os cosmic alpha. And i think cosmic DE is great. No more tweaking gnome and yaving issue with updatin. Pop!_os introduced me to windows tilling and i know it sounds stupid but key bindings too. They were so logical to me. I think cosmic DE is gonna change the scenery in linux distros a bit.

[@theclassicalhomeopath]

Completely agree about workspaces. Its ludicrous. Is there anyone in the world who actually uses workspaces on multi monitors like the kde default?

[@istvantorok4819]

Cinnamon has some setting related to workspaces in multimonitor setup, I didn't try it, because for all monitors I have there is a PC attached to them :-)

[@gubasso]

Why do you have a lot of the same Breeze color themes around? It happened to me yesterday!!

[@TheLinuxCast]

Idk. Have no clue

[@cmh-yen]

Absolutely love the videos. Still baffles me that you don't feel the need to use something like tmux, it's essentially tabs and workspaces for a terminal. I have by bash profile always just open with tmux, so I can use any terminal emulator and maintain my workflow. It also lets me have peace of mind to just close my terminals every time knowing it's all still going. The fact that tmux is so scriptable is really nice too. The plugins are pretty nice as well.

[@TheLinuxCast]

@@cmh-yen I do use tmux. But mostly on the home lab

[@alexeiboukirev8357]

You can make custom resolution in XOrg with xrandr. Use cvt to generate a mode line for a given resolution and refresh rate.

[@TheLinuxCast]

The resolution of this monitor is so wonky there isn't a number that it will easily scal to

[@alexeiboukirev8357]

@@TheLinuxCast # 1.25 scale cvt 2048 2304 60 # 1.50 scale cvt 1707 1920 60

[@Ja.KooLit]

youre just not used to it.... WM especially if you full costumize it, will not act like a DE like plasma and gnome I use both (DE's and hyprland) and I just adjust accordingly

[@JessicaFEREM]

so basically, you want cosmic

[@IAmTheSlink]

I legit don't understand why having the same workspace on multiple monitors is such a bad thing. Not saying that people must compute this way, but I find it entirely reasonable that someone may want to interact with more windows than they can fit onto one monitor. What is the advantage of different workspaces on different monitors?

[@UKprl]

Alternative subtitle: Desktop Environments corrupted me (and I didn't even notice it happening until I tried to leave)

[@UKprl]

Someone watching my own workflow would probably think it was dominated by mashing Super, F11 and Esc keys combined with a few touchpad gestures, and there is some truth in that's mostly all I need to navigate Ubuntu's take on GNOME. That said I have found that so many of my tasks are based in a browser or terminal that I get by in any environment that behaves consistently, as long as it does not allow focus-stealing. (Windows never seemed to be able to fully prevent the odd rogue program raising themself over my foreground program while I was not looking at the screen though it depends what s/w you have installed. Lotus Notes - you know you're on the naughty list here).

[@ericodionneviglione9426]

IMAX-screen-sized monitor would solve everything. Heehee :)

[@harpskid]

No DE for me is better than XFCE. Something about xfce just feels like an alternate reality where windows kept the old workflow of Win9x/00 and continued improving on it. It isn't for everybody, but I think it is damn good.

[@YannBOYERDev]

XFCE is a really cool DE but with a big technical debt... They finished the GTK3 port not long ago(and we are far from seeing a GTK4 port), Wayland support still isn't there, they are trying to implement it but it takes a lot of time, they are a small team, way smaller than KDE or GNOME. This is why I never used XFCE in the recent years, KDE suits me better, but yeah if XFCE suits you better then use it, this is why I love Linux we have the choice to use whatever we want.

[@sitaroartworks]

Until you don't change mind after installed any skin theme different form the default and it looks modern. And worth mentioning: modules like snapping windows and expose like windows, a Plank dock and still using 5% of your hardware resources. :)

[@NeftisIsHere]

another video of linux man yells at cloud lets gooo (in a good way ofc)

[@jgsw563]

Why did you give up on i3?

[@schemage2210]

Dude, the same organisational skills it takes to get use to and use a TWM effectively CAN BE APPLIED to a DE to use it effectively. Point is this is a 24-minute rant that can be summarised by saying, "I need to close my windows" and "I really ought to apply those skills I have but am too lazy too"!!!

[@artemsmushkov766]

Did you try qtile on Wayland?

[@KyloNeko]

I love using cinnamon