We Finally Did it Properly - "Linux" Whonnock Upgrade

[@LinusTechTips]

Just a small clarification about the SMB Multichannel settings. We asked the TrueNAS folks about it, and they explained that in the current version of SMB/samba in TrueNAS core, SMB Multichannel is still considered "experimental" and is therefore not a recommended configuration. The Linux version of TrueNAS, "Scale", should support SMB Multichannel by default once it matures into a stable release.

[@novicemak]

ok

[@chickenman3495]

Almost slipped up, thanks for the info man!

[@tilde-tech]

Nothing good ever comes from combining the word “windows” and “server”

[@alexandthephoenix9154]

:)

[@thatguyalex2835]

So this is a Linux style server, noice. :) How many TeraFLOPS is this server, and the exact RAM amount to the nearest MB? I love technical specifications.

[@Hobbles_]

These server videos are always so incredibly interesting to me, even though they're some of the videos furthest from what I'll ever experience

[@20blog28]

I think that's what makes them interesting; seeing what's happening behind the scenes of tech companies and big online companies

[@vinzer72frie]

Dont be so sure of it, some years ago I thought 2 harddisk were enough for my stuff and now Im researching on how to set up a nas because i need a lot more space i have never been interested in servers

[@erenwayne]

@@vinzer72frie Same, I'm now more interested looking around on how to self host every service I use.

[@GreyBlackWolf]

Same

[@rkan2]

You can always run a cheap server box with Linux for home server :P

[@JeffGeerling]

Now run it on a Raspberry Pi.

[@izzieb]

This comment most definitely brought to you by Red Shirt Jeff.

[@GigantTech]

Oh god

[@nogoat]

Why don't you go plug that GTX 1050 into that Raspberry Pi.

[@j.m.rvlogs1578]

Omg I love your pi videos, I am in my 3rd year of electrical engineering and I am thinking about using a pi in my final year project because of being inspired by your videos.

[@JuryDutySummons]

Ohh you

[@NavySeal2k]

Linus, its like every engineer in racing has told: "If you give your driver 100hp more they mention not noticing it, but if you take 10 away they complain the car is undriveable!"

[@peterpain6625]

You mean "if you mention there is 10hp less they'll tell you it's undriveable" even it's still the same ;)

[@TimBoundy]

@@RandomUser2401 it's a combination of being a temporary setup, as well as a test bed for the configuration they'll be installing on New New New Whonnock.

[@wobblysauce]

Once you get to a certain point going faster is less noticeable, but you can feel when you don't go as fast.

[@BoogieSpiderman]

Tofu run without spilling

[@michaeljeacock]

@@wobblysauce like a lot of people don't notice if their new phone has 120hz until they try going back to 60hz?

[@JaccovanSchaik]

"We're going Linux baby!" - Goes BSD.

[@JordanLOL]

Ya. TrueNas Scale is Linux (they have BSD though as well) though. Still in beta, improving every day. Seems to work fine though.

[@FelipeFigueiredodeCampos]

In the end... Bsd likes. , 🆓

[@JordanLOL]

@@Fiberton maybe 10 years ago. Sorry, Linux more perrormant, secure these days ;)

[@houserouterhouserouter5808]

Honestly BSD is not even that bad and hard. Most linux apps work on BSD and when i say most that means 98% of them lol

[@joefish6091]

@@Fiberton Installation can be nasty, ditto Debian and wifi not working by default. artificial hurdles to dissuade people using them.

[@frostail5623]

I love how in the last couple of years the technical discussions in the videos have become much more advanced and in-depth

[@perow4029]

100% has do with hiring people that know this stuff. to push the content further.

[@Zawadmunshi]

@@perow4029 *cough* Anthony

[@AndrewB383]

@@Zawadmunshi Real heroes do things because they're right, not for recognition (nah but seriously that guy is a God among nerds)

[@gmourao]

I don't know... Seems like they are jumping some steps. It seems they just want to huild the server and than they think about filling something about it, there are lots of parts missing.

[@Vysair]

and im glad pc community have become more and more proficient in the technical jargon

[@harmvzon]

I really like it that Jake shines when he's knows his stuff. He's also good in explaining. And he tries to dumb it down (as far as it goes in this sort of videos)

[@coolinmac]

Nah he’s by far the most annoying member of the team.

[@FrostyDeagz]

He said doing it dirty and I swear to God I heard doing it nerdy

[@Konomi_io]

@@coolinmac you always this negative?

[@binarysneaker]

Jake's the real hero of the team.

[@SaitoGray]

Yeah, he know his stuff and it's awesome to see him in what he excell. Just like went we see Anthony.

[@HotLavaMachine]

Jake used to get ribbed by the comments all the time, but he seems to be super knowledgeable in this stuff. It's nice to see him be an expert in a field.

[@mickolesmana5899]

tbf his first video, about server i think? ,where he and anthony fixed the server. He did have some douchy/doesn't care altitude. But i like him changin' into chill and still a very knowledgeable dude.

[@CornRecords972]

@@mickolesmana5899 Cause he grew more mature at the job. It's been like 4 years since then I think

[@MacaDangDangDang]

I wasn’t watching back then but I like Jake. I’d be friends with a nerd like him for sure

[@LoopsFroott]

I didn’t get it back when Jake got hate. Always liked him.

[@Deebomc]

@@mickolesmana5899 anybody got a link to that vid? I think him and Anthony together would make for some *extra* big brain footage (theoretically).

[@ajhieb]

It never ceases to amaze me that Linus has mad a career out of documenting his career.

[@joshuasterling2144]

Its like rappers rapping about being rich to get rich.

[@cgme9535]

@@joshuasterling2144 true

[@Lianpe98]

xD

[@sagarchakraborty007]

All the og vloggers are also laughing 😂

[@thehighwayman78]

I must admit, "Post" Corona bearded Linus with that out of bed hairdo goes better with Linux. Also, looking forward to the inevitable Canadian wood axe reviews. To quote 2minutepapers. What a time to be alive!

[@vivareasonandfirstamendmen8390]

😀I love seeing a 2minutepapers reference here.

[@TheImmortalTruth]

Wish I could like this twice

[@Usernotknown21]

Post carona?

[@ShizGnat]

No idea why the dude ever stayed clean shaven. He looks way better with a beard.

[@rawdez_]

@@ShizGnat most likely it was his wifey and something about that number 69 reaction Linus has, if you know what I mean.

[@KangoV]

I used to work for a certain cinema sound company. We were setting up a real time rendering cluster for digital cinema. What we found is that by moving from SMB to NFS we got greater throughput. We also hit the same caching issue with Windows. Linux was used as we could not solve that issue. Also, the read/write latency of SMB is around 40% worse than NFS. Not sure that would make a difference in your use case. But would make a worthwhile test.

[@patiencelarson4128]

NFS compatible with windows ?

[@ryzenforce]

@@patiencelarson4128 Don't use Windows for editing is also a good way to ramp up speed.

[@ultrasonic3368]

@@ryzenforce Adobe kinda needs Windows to work, and LTT already made a video on trying to cut away from them

[@PlaceholderforBjorn]

I have the same experience as well, but just in a home environment. So I'm quite glad i have moved from windows

[@liranpiade4499]

I had a feeling SMB wouldn't be particularly impressive 🤔

[@redDevi1]

My heart skipped a beat when Linus nearly dropped the bloody server.

[@thatguyalex2835]

Like always. :) It's a given law of physics. Gravity and Linus don't mix

[@youkofoxy]

In a parallel universe he is the best DJ ever, the amazing drop skills are still there, just different application.

[@rushthezeppelin]

Yeah I bet he almost crapped himself.......that was a close one.

[@gh8447]

Linus looked like he'd just squeezed out a little bit of poo.

[@maybeanonymous6846]

linus should become a dj he'd drop the bass.

[@mikewilliams1576]

Jake: "I've done a little testing on this" Also Jake: *explains every single setting and how they differed between different states during testing* This is not a "little bit of testing" my man, this is proper testing.

[@francoisviljoen4002]

yeah I was wondering how many hours he spent on this.

[@kosajk]

@@francoisviljoen4002 its linux, the answer is only one "a lot" :)

[@PunakiviAddikti]

Well, when you're a professional your work becomes easy to you.

[@bigbay1159]

@@kosajk Its not linux, its a unix based system they went with TrueNas which is FreeBSD not linux

[@kosajk]

@@bigbay1159 idd thanks for the info never got that far into it actually, Doesn't look any better tho in time consuming department :]

[@Seicara]

I miss this style of video. this felt like a true to old LTT video

[@TheHuskers]

This video was filled with the level of Dorkiness that old LTT videos gave off often.

[@benjaminlynch9958]

You mean back when there were *actual* tech tips?

[@bigbodge]

was looking for this comment I get why the channel switched to something more gaming focused, it has a more bigger audience than people just interested in computers for computing sake, but for me these kind of videos are true LTT

[@jstavene]

you mean less, polish, finish, and more nerdly,,,yeah I like that also

[@nogoat]

TrueNAS : I fear no man. But that guy. *stares at Linus* He scares me.

[@Br-Shaft]

True NAS working with/for a lot of Multi-million dollar companies: It's ok. True NAS when they see Linus coming with a new Server: Oh god, why that Canadian again?

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@ShiroCh_ID]

@@Br-Shaft did you mean "oh god"? since its the possible way to said it and maybe you can rorrect the mistakes

[@missingno2401]

@@swadplan excuse me what the fuck

[@gjantonio]

@@swadplan what the fuck man... What the fuck

[@djrixxard]

Linus has really built an enterprise here. Haven't been watching him and I didn't realize what sort of operation he was running. Good for him!

[@thehoss338]

He made a tour of the place and how they run all of that pretty insane

[@kisspeteristvan]

he has like almost 40 people working for him . They manage like 5-6? channels

[@ovedurak]

No wonder there where advertisements all over the video... I haven't watched him in ages, but I guess he needs to pay the bills.

[@kisspeteristvan]

@@ovedurak i still watch him time to time , but the ads & lack of time killed it for me . There was a time (from 2011? to about 2017-2018 ) when i watched a lot of his videos .

[@NymezWoW]

A company with around 40 people hardly qualifies as an enterprise.

[@stevenjlovelace]

Linus: "As you can see, it's not the weekend." LTT: Drops video on a Sunday.

[@Tehn00bA]

He almost dropped the server too

[@wafflebell]

300th like

[@rhekman]

To be fair, it's not The Weeknd

[@danimayb]

He could have made the video middle of week gone

[@rambo64bit82]

It's never a weekend it's always a work day

[@Pratalax]

The heroic effort of making Linus audible over those servers also i love how long this "newnew whonnock/whonnock 3" thing has been going on good god what is that hat ed

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@karakuri002]

i think they should follow suit with intel in giving weird names of their new products

[@sebastianerivesmejia4474]

@@swadplan lmao

[@crt5866]

I love how there is still disagreement over whether to call it "new new whonnock" or "Whonnock 3"

[@KalebMarshallDulcimerPlayer]

*new new new

[@empire_of_lesun2088]

It should be whonnock 3, because Linus has ranted about horrible naming schemes.

[@DeadpoolPlayz]

@@KalebMarshallDulcimerPlayer no that would mean its the fourth

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

there is no disagreement, its new new whonnoc. linus says so.

[@CatsMeow_]

What disagreement? Jake is just wrong.

[@SuperNovaRider]

I'm amazed that you were actually running windows on your storage server all this time... That's true bravery right there!

[@NamesTesla]

@@homedecore1391 what

[@Teluric2]

Would have been worse to have a mac with beachballing

[@pufthemajicdragon]

Windows on a storage server is absolutely excellent - if it's a fully supported OEM storage server running the correct edition of Windows. Which this is not.

[@fruitycoconut]

Firzen is beast

[@bretl8130]

lol EMC SANs runs tons of F500 companies.... their VNX product runs Windows server ... sooo

[@yugoprowers]

I like how I use to feel bad for Linus when Jake first started showing up in video, but now Jake is the mature one. LOL I love LTT

[@6973chris2]

Remember the poll on the forums of whether to fire jake or not?

[@yugoprowers]

@@6973chris2 I never really got in to the LTT forums, but now I'm trying to find it, if they haven't deleted it. I always liked Jake but when he was first on here it looked like a father with his teen son trying to do something together.

[@6973chris2]

@@yugoprowers the poll was put up by a member not let themselves might be hard to find

[@BlockStah]

"Several Blue screens" And right there, you can see Linus's pure anger

[@Kono_Dio-Da]

@@agnes_______________5331 Go away

[@Prof.SchulzeSternberg]

Linus‘.

[@impolitedirector3595]

@@agnes_______________5331 So many fucking bots.

[@-l485]

Tbf, Find me a person who would not have pure anger at even one bsod

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@CGEproductions1]

I literally Love when Linus even feels like he can't fix it so he just yells " JAKEEEEE " Makes my day hahaha

[@2024-t7t]

Jake funny as

[@johnfran3218]

When things were at their very worst: 2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy. Scientists will say it was a global illusion. Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again. After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way. Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet - will seem to rise from the dead - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one. One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist. Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent. "The time for the schism in the Church is almost here and you must get prepared now" "Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out" The Book of Truth

[@gagelink2457]

Literally??

[@StellarJay77]

"I don't know why TrueNAS doesn't work the way I want it to" - proceeds to hard power down and unplug power mid startup then slaps the top of the case repeatedly. *shrug*

[@nomore6167]

Exactly. It's disappointing and aggravating to see someone who should know better behaving in such an idiotic, irresponsible way. Sure, it's his own equipment and his own money he's putting at risk, but a lot of people watch his videos and may think "well it can't be that bad if Linus does it".

[@bigblockchevy427]

@@nomore6167 boo hoo

[@pranamd1]

@@nomore6167 No one who is paid to administer a server is looking to Linus as a role model. If they are, fire them.

[@dinosauriojacinto]

this is a show, he knows to do wreid stuff so people get mad and comment more.

[@genericdave8420]

@@dinosauriojacinto Yep - Which is why I'm not screaming ESD at him whilst he's juggling components. ;-)

[@amshermansen]

It's kind of funny to see how Jake and Linus roles have completely reversed since the earlier server videos. Jake used to be all over the place, a true joker. Now he's the serious one sighing at Linus.

[@barefeg]

The apprentice became the master

[@ShiroKage009]

I'm pretty sure Jake used to overplay it for the camera until he was told to tone it down.

[@DiZZiEntertainment]

@@ShiroKage009 he still needs to tone it down, I don’t know how to say it but dude is annoying I skip a lot of videos because he’s in them. Lol

[@justinedzard]

@@DiZZiEntertainment eh, he's pretty toned down already personally, nothing from him strikes me as annoying anymore

[@AndiKola]

Well he has to be serious if he wants to have any success in luring kids in his van.

[@abysspegasusgaming]

Jake: "There's a bunch of hard drives in there, stop slapping it!" Linus: "Who owns it?" Jake: "..."

[@danielstellmon5330]

True, but Jake's job is at stake and does not have Linus levels of savings an investments to carry him through.

[@DoctorWhom]

@@danielstellmon5330 Sounds like they got backup somewhat good these days. I have seen a video where yelling at a server rack basically slowed the drives right down.

[@denniswier]

@@DoctorWhom wait? 4 real? Any links? 😁

[@boombeepboomboop]

@@denniswier yep for real ik it too, here is the link : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnXElJ2oiKiYp5Y . I hope the comment doesn't get deleted or hidden lol

[@dingdong2103]

That and yanking the power repeatedly. Gee, I wonder why he has inexplicable problems with his OS install.

[@Shaonia]

Aww, I've been eagerly waiting for the "LTT switches to daily driving Linux" challenge and first I thought this was the video 😅

[@googleuser9422]

Where are they going to post that challenge? Here in this channel?

[@mhatretush]

same

[@samuelwilks5873]

saaaaaaame

[@Radi0he4d1]

YES WHERE THE IN THE FLYING FUСК IS IT

[@wintrywind]

lmao same

[@awlabrador]

As someone who came from BSD, I must say that BSD pre-dates Linux by a whole hell of a lot. It’s more correct to say that Linux is Unix-like.

[@preflex3502]

Indeed. Not being true UNIX was the whole point of Stallman's grand quest. GNU's Not Unix. It's a shame that HURD never worked out and we got stuck with Torvalds' kernel, which gets all the attention instead of the rest of the system.

[@LinuxIsNotAnOperatingSystem]

@Clinton Reisig What do you mean by "practically invented Linux"? He indeed invented it, he is the creator of Linux.

[@SockyNoob]

That's correct. GNU stands for GNU's Not Unix after all

[@nigratruo]

"Linux is Unix like?"No, it is going away further and further from Unix and with good reason: Unix is outdated and obsolete, that is why it died. It refused to adjust to new realities of computing today, to be useful, run on as many systems as possible and progress with more automatisms and a special new feature called U-S-E-R--F-R-I-E-N-D-L-Y-N-E-S-S :-D When people talk about Unix, they actually mean Linux with it, Linux is the reason that anybody still remembers Unix at all.

[@hyretech]

@@nigratruo There's a few BSD folks who would probably disagree with you. The PROPRIETARY Unix systems (Ultrix, HP-UX, AIX, Solaris) all went away because the companies that produced them had a vested interest in commercializing their operating systems - this meant selling them for a profit. Linux had no such constraints, and it was freely available as a result. This led to consumers choosing the "free" OS option, vs. spending extra thousands for the operating systems (as was the case with HP-UX, for example)

[@TheAverageJoystick]

I remember watching LTT after school back when the storage "server" was in the bathroom -_-

[@harrisonjr98]

I still remember the bare 3.5” drives stacked on the toilet lid lmao. Wish they would do more truly chaotic and diy projects again like whole room water cooling

[@christopherjc54]

@@harrisonjr98 the idea of stacking conductive hard drives on top of each other gives me chills, please tell me they were at least powered off

[@tams805]

@@christopherjc54 It's all here on KZbin. You can see the glorious horror that it was for yourself.

[@bowiemtl]

hahaha no way, they actually did that?

[@Hewitt_himself]

and moving them to the top of the stairs due to all room water cooling

[@PiyushNikam]

16:51 I love how Mark organises his icons on the vertical display

[@ElSenorEls]

Nice catch

[@PiyushNikam]

@@Kyber417 yeah it looks like a USB icon

[@gamebrigada2]

For optimal ssd performance you want ashift size * (number of drives - parity) to be as close as possible to your record size or could be multiplied to be close to the record size evenly. This decreases fragmentation and pushes to disk faster. For nvme pools this is hugely helpful. Don't forget to figure out your ashift properly and set it correctly. This is a huge performance suck in systems like this. I spent a fair amount of time testing 10x nvme systems on zfs for VM workloads.

[@bronekkozicki6356]

From my experience, ashift does not matter as much as does recordsize. This is because basically cannot get ashift past 16 i.e. 64KB, but you *can* get recordsize all the way to 1MB (it's a different question if you should). My experience is running some 12 NVMEs in a single RAID0 vdev (temporary files, when chia was still a thing)

[@gamebrigada2]

@@bronekkozicki6356 ashift needs to match the drives native block size. Don't change it to match that formula. However setting record size to match that formula really does help. If you're mismatched on the ashift vs drives, you'll rely on the drive cache to fix fragmentation which drives are really good at. However if you're not matching the formula, you're relying on zfs to fix fragmentation, which increases write caching before data can be flushed to disk for no reason other than to fix fragmented blocks.

[@shukterhousejive]

and don't forget to spell "ashift" correctly, your server is working too hard to deal with that kind of language

[@johnlocke9609]

Same, had 20 4U servers with zfs and iscsi pools full of images and another mega pool full of VM's, ashift benchmarks and in every way could be imagined and possible. Is very addictive and entertaining!

[@geraldellis6506]

@@johnlocke9609 WAT? You *Lost* me there... :-/

[@preflex3502]

"We could [turn compression on] later because we have stuff like Word files" Those are already compressed. .docx is just a .zip with a bunch of xml in it.

[@vlamnire]

Deduplication would be best in that scenario

[@preflex3502]

@@vlamnire Deduplication is only useful if the files are mostly the same. Unfortunately, changing a single letter in a .docx file results in an entirely different binary stream, as it's zipped.

[@jamesbaskerville9800]

I get the feeling these guys never were that great at Windows software in the first place. Figures.

[@bengrant7654]

10:15 Word files (at least new ones in the docx format) are actually just zip files, so they probably wouldn't compress either.

[@lukasg4807]

Also it's insignificant compared to 8k+ 60fps raw videos.

[@macicoinc9363]

@@lukasg4807 One would hope lmao.

[@rednassie1101]

Yes indeed, I didn't know this either. At our company we've moved to Asciidoc for this exact reason

[@docferringer]

Dunno how they are storyboarding their content (if they even are?) but Office docs use a medium Zip compression, so you can throw them at 7zip and compress the ever-loving hell out of them. It usually gets another 25% of space.

[@ContraVsGigi]

@@docferringer I have a feeling that activating system wide (storage) compression would just use more CPU for no real benefit. Movies will not get smaller and .docx/.odt files are much, much smaller to make a difference.

[@CrocodileDendi]

I really love to see Jake advance from his beginning at LTT to now. You have become a well prepared and wise man, learned alot about server tech. It seems you follow Anthony's presenting style and its lovely! Keep it up :)

[@GoldSrc_]

Nah, Jake comes off as that annoying cousin that nobody wants around. Anthony has charm, Jake is just annoying and that pedostache doesn't do him any good.

[@furryking8723]

@@GoldSrc_ Jealous much? Projecting your own insecurities much?

[@GoldSrc_]

@@furryking8723 No. I have those annoying cousins that want to be part of everything, and Jake behaves the same, using the same forced laugh that my annoying cousins use. It helps if you are not a fanboy so you can see what I mean. Anthony always comes off as charming and wholesome, Jake is just annoying, hell, even the other editors that LMG has don't come off as annoying as him.

[@corygolobish3299]

Linus secretly praying that the CPU isn't enough so he can put a 64 core CPU in his home NAS

[@todortodorov940]

Electricity must be cheap in Canada. In Germany, I try to put as small (power efficient) CPU as possible in my NAS or Server to save money.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

@@todortodorov940 innit bruv, like: Mining: exists RWE & Co: "But it won't profit you even slightly!"

[@vdoxsamp7283]

@@todortodorov940 You can thank the green energy scam for that. Just look at France, electricity is way more affordable.

[@todortodorov940]

@@vdoxsamp7283 I am 100% aware of this. I lived in Sweden before moving here, and having 85% of your electricity generated by cheap and reliable nuclear and hydroelectric power was a different story. In Germany you pay around 2-2½ times more. But as you said, the scam is here, and no matter how I vote for each election, my single vote is cancelled by the vote of the many greens and the scam lives on.

[@_TbT_]

@@todortodorov940 nuclear is NOT cheap!

[@Chukijay]

From opening boxes of mediocre PC parts outside NCIX to overhauling your company's server. Pretty cool to witness this journey along the way.

[@calzord]

I love when Linus makes a joke and he waits for a reaction. Nobody gives him one.

[@thehighwayman78]

Story of my life... Becoming a dad didn't help ;p

[@4hmadreza]

remind me of office tv show

[@NZobservatory]

These videos are completely rehearsed.

[@sunsei643]

@@NZobservatory you rehearsed writing these comments before posting them

[@TimTheTiredMan]

what if that's the reaction he's looking for?...

[@FloridaMann123]

"Is our one and only production network editing server." That had the network engineer in me internally screaming about a single point of failure in the prod environment.

[@AC-cg4be]

As a network guy, most of what LTT does has me wondering "WTF, mate?" These people would work well in government with the mentality of "throw more hardware at the problem". I mean, halfway decent monitoring and administration would root out most of these problems before they became problems. But hey, whatever. Entertainment for the masses.

[@christopherjc54]

They're probably in a position where they could get a replacement server going in a day or two and the effort required to have redundancy isn't worth the one-off instance where a single point of failure happens

[@christopherjc54]

Also imma counter my own argument by saying that it would be costly for that many editors to take a day off, but as A C said, "Entertainment for the masses".

[@ChrisJones-gd2no]

they have both a seperate onsite and offsite backup server

[@LidellFrasier]

@@ChrisJones-gd2no Data backup and redundant production servers aren't the same thing. The backups keep them from losing any work if something breaks, but they would still lose the ability to do new work if New New Whonnock failed.

[@bograham6221]

Very big brained move doing stuff like this onprem at LMG, since you get to make content about stuff you're gonna do already. Good vid. Great to see some BSD stuff and realistic IT-related content.

[@michaelkrelwitz6203]

ah yes, the end result of all networking projects,. You start out thinking you're gonna make everything way faster, spend an entire day setting things up, and then find out things are largely the same but maybe more stable. I've never felt like the job is 100% "done" when doing networking...

[@user-ut9ln4vd5m]

If it's not a broken network, then it's just OK

[@tomrecane6366]

Back in the dark ages when I was getting my CS degree there was a “computer room” on campus that held 2 IBM mainframes. Only one was in use. I asked why and they said the other one was dropped bringing it in.

[@andrewyong3389]

What college was it at?

[@calmeilles]

Irish Times, back in the early 80s, took delivery of six Atex modified PDP-11 units. They had to be hoisted by crane through a second floor window. Only five made it. The sixth dropped to the street below, a very expensive 3-D jigsaw puzzle.

[@tomrecane6366]

@@andrewyong3389 Old Dominion U. According to the techs they used it for spares.

[@highintlowwis6580]

"Our chunks are pretty big." Jake might have not gotten it, Linus, but I did, and I chuckled.

[@r3act-]

I think Linus was expecting a reaction on this but he quickly realised that Jake didn't get it and moved on :D

[@bbqR0ADK1LL]

The next Whonnok will be Whonnok One. Electronics companies have taught me how to count.

[@nickwallette6201]

Whonnok Series SSD

[@conkerconk3]

i like it how someone put "0:00 intro" in the description. would've been lost without it, thanks

[@JamezMartinez]

They have to for chapters to work

[@Lambda_Ovine]

It's always the same in this kind of videos, Linus and his team work very hard to improve the server, they do it, they test it, they see measurable improvements, they deploy it, they ask their editors, their editors: "Is not worst, I can work with this."

[@jhunnebug42]

“Let’s just give it a sec here” *Server turns into a 737 Max*

[@Greitone]

Nah, it didn't crash

[@elextroblaze]

@@SimonBauer7 Water submerged servers: Am I a joke to you?

[@fynnstechkanal]

@@SimonBauer7 working in data centers for my company is always much fun with headphones ^^

[@chefjamesmacinnis]

I can't believe how many people work their editing videos that are all about the equipment they use to edit the videos. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy

[@iamhero25]

So true!

[@JivanPal]

Caption corrections: Zetta-FS => ZFS (appears quite a few times) parody => parity (appears a couple times) qDevs => queue depths 18 gigabytes => 18 gibibytes

[@ryan1696]

16:35 Linus' dropping powers have become so strong that he doesn't even have to touch the stuff anymore.

[@IamYuto]

It's contagious

[@CoasterMan13Official]

He's clumsy. Just like me and my mom.

[@strehlow]

"Abuse the force, Linus."

[@pierrandre]

Regardless of video topic, I'm just really amazed by the amount of staff Linus Media Group now employs... when you think that all of that came from videos to review things. Congrats Linus !

[@thzzzt]

Well, you know the old saying: "The screens are always bluer on your side."

[@comicsansgreenkirby]

That’s a good one. Ima save that xD

[@SimotheSniper]

This was the funniest LTT that I have watched in a while! Jake was the perfect "straight man" (meaning deadpan NOT preference) and Linus being Linus. very entertaining and informative!

[@teknoman117]

14:10 - one of the only times I noticed high queue depth from a "consumer" application was actually running DOOM 2016 and Eternal via proton on Linux. Level loading had an average queue depth of ~30.

[@SianaGearz]

That's interesting and pretty good actually. More games could be a lot less IO choked on loading if they used NCQ, async IO and MT this well. Including on spinny bois. That being said the IO requirements of games aren't that... hot anyway so far. Oh i know a thing. Second Life client. It shreds pretty hard. I should measure someday. On the other hand, it has... software inefficiencies, which are pretty horrid. Yeah i'm not assuming it will turn out one way or another, really need to measure.

[@SkigBiggler]

Doom 2016 is really well optimised, they did a great job with it.

[@0xEmmy]

5:22 Honestly, two things, but TL;DR FreeBSD has my respect just as much as anything Linux-based 1. always use the right tool for the job. Linux-based operating systems tend to be pretty good (at least, more often than Windows), but that's not strictly guaranteed. 2. FreeBSD (and anything derived therefrom) is a sensible choice. Makes some design decisions that make it comparable to Linux if not better, plus ZFS is a native FreeBSD project so it'll always be a pretty good match. Heck, it has a built-in Linux binary compatibility layer (plus solid virtualization support). When my Framework gets here, I might switch to it. (Currently on Gentoo - basically a BSD-style OS but with Linux for a kernel - for the better driver support on my existing systems.) Heck, most Linux users will probably respect FreeBSD.

[@Yuk3yN4g4t0]

>ZFS is a native FreeBSD project Was not true, (the native one was illumos (as ZFS originated on Solaris and illumos is OpenSolaris successor) and it was ported to freebsd), double not true anymore. OpenZFS 2.0 is native to Linux since it basically grewup from ZFS on Linux. Well, current codebase is unified with both Linux and FreeBSD so they should have parity with features, so no problem with that.

[@bograham6221]

ZFS would work great on Linux and not be module jank if Oracle would just relicense the project ffs. It has the CDDL SPECIFICALLY to be incompatible with Linux.

[@tralphstreet]

I respect FreeBSD, sure, but I'd never use it as my desktop OS. Linux is far better suited for that.

[@classicrockonly]

I’m looking forward to the day I need a laptop upgrade. I’m very interested in the Framework laptop. Right now I have FreeBSD 13.0 running on my Thinkpad T480 right now and it’s great. It’s also been a beast for 4 years on my server

[@classicrockonly]

@@tralphstreet Linux really does have a great desktop experience. All the GUI knobs work and it has all the electron apps you want. I switched to FreeBSD for my desktop bc I really like administering to FreeBSD better than Linux and I got so tired of distro hopping, trying to find the “right” distro for me. FreeBSD you have to spend time in the command line to do stuff that just works in the GUI on Linux, but that’s something that doesn’t bother me at all. I still put my family on Linux computers lol. Makes my life way easier

[@OnzaRob]

There have been many times have I've spent weeks upgrading servers, to then survey the users to get "It's about the same, maybe slower!" welcome to server IT Linus!....but the ultimate goal is that the data is always avaiable ;-)

[@TheNasaDude]

Integrity Availability Performance You go to servers if you want them in this order. You can configure a server to be performance first, but there will be other servers and systems in the background taking care of the other 2 points

[@walllable]

I love how giggly Jake got whenever the speed of the drives was mentioned. It's a great feeling having the coolness of something that you like acknowledged like that.

[@jlebrech]

The first thing I was gonna ask is "why not BSD?" Ended up being BSD I love that.

[@peterpain6625]

TrueNAS will go Linux in the long run though i suppose. They want to wedge themselves into the object storage market.

[@jlebrech]

@@peterpain6625 I don't know, BSD is 100% free. Linux is kinda corrupted

[@peterpain6625]

@@jlebrech True. I made a "fudge-you-torvalds" patch for our internal kernel rpms with included openzfs to make it even work ;)

[@jlebrech]

@@peterpain6625 Linus was kinda me too'd and was forced to allow corporate patches to the kernel via community weirdos

[@crash1985]

Hehe same for me. I was like: "Linux? Why not *BSD with ZFS?"

[@ChrisTitusTech]

Quite entertaining 😁 I'd love to see a reaction video from an EMC technician.

[@SoyFilipo]

One drive failure? They should have gone with a vsan solution

[@UnhingedNW]

The Linux lord himself in the house 🤘

[@miles8718]

Yooo Chris over here! Hi Chris, your channel's awesome!

[@vasocreta]

@Dermot McCann don't fuckin' start, dude 😂😂

[@ashutoshmourya4748]

@Dermot McCann Oh s*it! HERE WE GO AGAIN -_-

[@ShoelessJP]

The data hoarder/archivist in me loves all these server videos so much. Please keep doing similar videos, they're awesome

[@InventorZahran]

An archivist is just a data hoarder with a purpose.

[@calmeilles]

@@InventorZahran And a catalogue.

[@captmulch1]

Well done - I woke up to that conclusion 15 years ago, and have been exclusively running Linux since then!

[@tokimcbongrip8751]

"there's a bunch of hard drives under there. stop slapping it!" lmfao literally kept rewinding it over and over again. thank you for the laugh

[@IntangirVoluntaryist]

LOL i did the same thing, the first time he slapped it thats what i was thinking, then he does it again and the dude says that lol, i rewinded it like 4 times

[@baylinkdashyt]

Particularly funny since they're all SSDs what don't *care*...

[@Dowent]

@@baylinkdashyt There are 2 4U servers right under it. Since I have experience swapping heads on a HDD, I'm always on my toes when near a running one.

[@nixon2tube]

@@baylinkdashyt That was my first thought: SSDs, so what about slapping it? Could probably throw it across the room if it didn't have the systemboard and PS in there to get hurt.

[@christopheroliver148]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnXElJ2oiKiYp5Y

[@marjoe32]

I hope we eventually get a jumbo cut of every time Linus ended up wrong, then a smile from the producer who said it was a bad idea lol

[@CraftMine1000]

2:35 that's some fast preemptive reflexes there, Not to jab on Linus but it's probably from experience

[@larryzip890]

4:11 the way you flip the screwdriver is epic

[@fawzanfawzi9993]

I thought this is going to be about Linus completely switched to Linux after the challenge.

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

In order to to Do It Properly at home, he'd have to get rid of his Windows VR Machine

[@Mojkanal1234]

I doubt Linus will switch to Linux, Luke on the other hand perhaps.

[@Driftwood420]

@@Mojkanal1234 yeah Linus won't manage to do it. He's got far too many weird peripherals and he doesn't have the same level of patience that Luke has

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@tonyburzio4107]

Blackmagic says DaVinci Resolve now runs up to five times faster on the new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro, even when editing 8K video.

[@Maggerrzz]

Linus talking to the editors about pretending to edit... everything from his awkward cool boss jokes to the cinematography was just The Office...

[@christopherjc54]

Best part it was an actual working office XD

[@Mystical_Zeus]

"As you can see it's not the weekend" *Meanwhile it's Sunday here*

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@reduxith]

@@swadplan Please, kindly, shut up.

[@ronsmith4325]

@@swadplan seriously, how many times are you going to spam this garbage? Get lost.

[@alexusman]

"We are going Linux baby!" - Parents of Linus, probably.

[@awwkaw9996]

That near drop though. I think it's the first time I've been able to spot panic in Linus' eyes over dropping something.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Yup. Even _his_ wallet would've felt the hit of replacing that thing.

[@jasontti]

That Athlon XP has been working well for many years, thank you very much.

[@PabzRoz]

Will Linus ever have a server that runs exactly the way he intended? Find out next time on new new new new new whonnock.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Jake: *"IT'S WHONNOCK 6!"*

[@fl2rms]

The series never ends

[@marxmaiale9981]

Not until he or one of his employees takes the time to throughly read the documentation, take the time to configure the OS decently and do maintenance.

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

@@marxmaiale9981 don't forget proper research, planning, design and fine tuning. But paying thousand of dollars in data recovery or general server downtime because, for instance, they make decisions like "yeah this HBA does RAID already, let's rely on that" makes things more interesting when the whole thing crashes and burns.

[@wta1518]

@@bufordmaddogtannen Yeah, but they can make those thousands back from the videos about the disaster.

[@djmystery7235]

2:38 Linus never stopped dropping stuff, he just got better at catching 😂

[@Ben-on3me]

Linus losing his video voice when the server almost fell had me gasping

[@scottdotjazzman]

@@LoganT547 it's a bot. Report it and move on

[@RebrandSoon0000]

@@scottdotjazzman I report them as child abuse/terrorism since Google ignores them as "spam". Maybe that will wake them up.

[@kiong]

“We finally did it properly” and linus continues to segue to his sponsor smoothly regardless edit: spelt segue wrongly

[@toon908]

i use yt ad block that auto skips ads or merch stuff

[@EssenceofPureFlavor]

Segue. Segways are the wheeled walking machines.

[@kiong]

@@EssenceofPureFlavor HAHA, i’ll change it, thanjs

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@brett1234]

Love how Linus is just tech support for his own company

[@abbasrizvi2488]

The tech support, the inventory manager, the studio designer, THE BOSS

[@H60Ninja]

you mean jake

[@instcake]

Yo dawg, i herd you like tech tips. So we put tech tips inside your company who makes tech tips.

[@ug333]

Linus knows enough to be dangerous. But he hires well Jake gets shit done :D

[@8draco8]

That's the worst about knowing stuff about tech, at some point there's no one to ask for help, you have to figure it out yourself

[@AlynnaTrypnotk]

Congrats on moving to the best solution. We used to have softraid and hardraid solutions here, including Windows dynamic disks. But once you go ZFS, you never go back.

[@eng3d]

Who uses zfs?

[@ichmeiner6358]

@@eng3d We do in our datacenter, and we don't wanna go back, honestly. I use it at home as well, and i don't wanna have anything else, this thing is so absolutely stable and easy to use.

[@thejdi]

I'd like to be talked through how these decisions are made in the LMG way. Who is involved, is it a meeting or a 1 vs 1 mudwrestling competition? Etc.

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@ToXXeRR]

This hurts me a little, when you built the first one I kept saying you need to stick to freenas... now you finally got there. We have been there for years. Funny enough - because of your reviews! :) thanks

[@陳秉軒-c9b]

It's been a while since I have watched a video featuring Jake, and I am pleasantly surprised at how much he has improved.

[@imei2006]

Linus: “I can’t understand why these servers don’t work while tinkering with them.” Also Linus: *proceeds to not use proper power cycling on their server.”

[@blueoak5262]

Those 5 words I'm not used to saying when dealing with technology lol

[@raracool6531]

@@agnes_______________5331 shut up

[@swadplan]

Linus is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 25k subscribers!! She definitely buy me a professional poop plug!! begging you GUYS alot literally begging..

[@Celcious]

@@kanza8374 stfu

[@swapnilpatidar7522]

man i hate these bots been bugging me everywhere

[@enzog1078]

@@swapnilpatidar7522 thought it was just me. Google needs to fix their shit

[@theondono]

Those editors man. You give them massive beasts and they’re like “well, it’s okay, it kinda works”. What were they using before? Computers from the next decade? 😂

[@Suklaa]

The thing is they will notice it when doing "extreme" projects, or better said, not notice it ... cause the old system would've failed doing those big projects.

[@DoctorWhom]

Two things of note: They've probably all had experience of working with the fileserver when its less loaded, light load of Whonnock 2 vs heavy loaded Whonnock 3. The other thing of note is that they've been slowly raising resolutions of what they're working on. 12k footage. Proxies (lower resolution copies that stand in during editing) would help with performance. But then you need to wait for those to get processed.

[@andoletube]

@@Suklaa True, which is why Linus shouldn't ask them if it feels so much better - at least not with the expectation that they will answer with a dramatic positive.

[@Suklaa]

@@andoletube I don't think he expected anything tbh... And if he wouldn't be happy with the answer, he wouldn't have put it in the video soo it's not that big of a deal

[@sjwright3533]

ill be totally honest ive watched your stuff for years, and yeah i could build a pc now, but holy hell all these abbreviations completely blow over my head but damn i still love watching every damn video

[@shogun5599]

I've literally worked in network administration and some of the abbreviations went over my head don't worry mate 90% of tech is googling shit you should know

[@christopherjc54]

A lot of the stuff they said will be a common occurrence if you like networking stuff, so looking it up will pay dividends

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

@@christopherjc54 Not being a network guy but rather the head Jack of All Trades guy it can be challenging to keep up with the specialists when they get going. Usually it's been some months or even a year or two since I had to deep dive into network software and hardware configurations when a customer calls and starts spurting abbreviations in my ear. And while I thought I had a pretty good grasp on the realities of it back then there's usually several new three or four letter abbreviations, or at leas I'm hoping they are abbreviations, sprinkled with version numbers and a lot of claims about performance numbers thrown in there. And so begins the uphill battle to make sense of just what has changed and WTF all those new abbreviations mean and if the "problem" is a problem, and if so if it's hardware, firmware, software or a configuration problem. And also if the "problem" is on the server side, client side, network topology side or a mad mix of two or even all three of these. People who have intimate knowledge of all of these parts are few and can be hard to find. Most techs tend to specialize in one or two areas, and just skim the other parts. It's easy to stare too hard on the things you do know something about and come to a partly erroneous conclusion about where the "problem" has it's origin. Me I'm struggling through every time and just have to try to take everything in fresh as in a year things sometimes change drastically. Also I can't keep on top of the change logs every software package on every OS and so on. There's simply not enough time in the day nor is my memory anywhere near good enough to retain much useful details. And as things are bound to keep changing I tend to concentrate on the basics and accept that if things get desperate enough that people think I can have any kind of useful input then it's time to hit up Google for a day or two to get some feeling for what is happening and where to go for useful information. After that I usually can keep a conversation with the customer without sounding totally retarded and perhaps even ask some questions that could get someone not me to actually start zooming in on the source of the problem. After one of those situations have been resolved I walks away with just enough knowledge to be dangerous. Fortunately the details then fade away and a month or so later I couldn't really tell you what we did to get things working, other than the very general "there were some packages that had to be upgraded or down graded and configurations that were changed..." Some times I hate my field of work, but other times I just revel in how much it changes and how much I have to learn just to keep a big picture of what is possible. Still I feel I'm a part of a dying breed. The Jack of All Trades is not what you want to be if you are trying to make a career as a computer technician. For sanity's sake you better specialize and make sure you are the best you can be in a small and well defined field. You will sleep better, have a better chance of getting a good salary and still have time over for a life outside of the computer industry.

[@sjwright3533]

@@christopherjc54 I'm checking regularly when I hear something I'm unaware of, which then leads me down arabbit hole of videos on such topics, till an hour goes by and I realise I still haven't watched the whole LTT video yet cause I stopped to check on an abbreviation 😂

[@SmartMoveGraphics]

Well done LTT, your content is always fresh, entertainmenting and educational. You have built quite the team.

[@LethalBB]

Wendel, thinking to himself: Thank f@ck he finally saw sense.

[@IM2awsme]

I love how Linus basically just hired a babysitter for himself that also helps with homework😂 watching them work together brings out flashbacks of doing science and math homework with my brother. Wholesome and productive tomfoolery. Love it.

[@kiyopon2091]

18:58 I love how he says he's "editing" and tabs out of KZbin when Linus come in 😆

[@recklesflam1ngo968]

I mean, he *could've* been watching something relevant to editing (e.g finding out the solution to a editing problem) but yeah XD

[@kleen13]

I grew up in Whonnock. Really neat to see a server name constantly revived that reflects where I grew up.

[@mdd1963]

Wth does ‘whonnock’ even mean?

[@mdd1963]

(Meaning, why call a storage server, ‘whonnock’?)

[@harryweij]

It is like a scripted show where characters go through their arc. I think it is f-in cool how Jake's arc is evolving!!

[@dolfinmicro]

It's hard to imagine why TrueNAS doesn't work for Linus when he's unplugging shit left and right

[@mnnptl]

2:37 Adding yet another video to the list where Linus almost gave me a heart attack

[@nomore6167]

Mark @19:14 - "It's good, it's acceptable, it's not worse" and then finally "I could edit with this". I'm wondering where it would have ended up if he kept talking.

[@KiguRoomie]

This video reminded me that Linus off script is just as charismatic and clever as on script- but impressively also his crew

[@MaverickBlue42]

Love how the oven is being used as a storage cabinet....

[@bunkerbros]

For what looks like a ton of oven mitts.

[@TheTechAdmin]

7:15 I told an employee to load the OS, drivers and software on 20 IBM T40's back in the day. And i come in 2 hours later to see he only completed 2 total. He nearly shit bricks when I showed him how to network cast to 10 laptops all at once. GhostCast is such a useful tool.

[@Solkre82]

We use FOG to image a few thousand machines every summer.

[@chaos.corner]

@@Solkre82 Just get the manufacturer to pre-image the machines for you.

[@georgevantuyl5837]

Good for you welcome to Linux you will enjoy the community. Great people ready and willing to help.

[@xnetpc]

As an Enterprise IT Server Engineer, it is always interesting watching people who have primarily worked on consumer/gaming computers delving into core infrastructure like servers and routers/switches. The solutions they go with are so different that what I would implement at my organization. Linus needs a SAN configured to handle a small number of large files at a time, where I typically deal with thousands of users accessing relatively small files simultaneously. Each scenario requires a different configuration and deployment strategy.

[@hiddeninthewires2308]

Sans are too expensive, costly, and can be difficult to scale hencd why they are dying. Lots of people are using hyperconverged with software defined storage.

[@hiddeninthewires2308]

There is nothing wrong with using servers for storage. San is on decline where hci is growing, clearly software defined storage is the future. Its though not done on single nodes using community editions. Its probably shear cost and him wanting to do it on his own. You dont need all the performance in one server buy a four node cluster of nutanix and offer file services if needed.

[@TomatePerita]

I'd appreciate the "grab an old athlon and turn it into a home NAS" video you mentioned in passing. Maybe showing 2-3 different ways of doing it (windows, truenas, linux) with advantages

[@Drive-n-Vibe]

there's very few OS options. windows server would have performance issues, so that would be out. truenas is fairly demanding on memory, so also not the best choice. that would leave you with openmediavault, which is your best option on ancient hardware like that.

[@caffeinesippingman]

@@Drive-n-Vibe I want to make sure I understand, OMV is if you want to repurpose old gear, TrueNAS is for when you have modern hardware? I am running OMV and started wondering if I had made a mistake because I keep seeting TrueNAS everywere I go .

[@Drive-n-Vibe]

@@caffeinesippingman yep. it's not really truenas that's the issue, it's ZFS and its big memory requirements. 1GB of memory per TB.

[@caffeinesippingman]

@@Drive-n-Vibe OMV has a plug-in that allows for ZFS. If I understand you correctly I most definitely should not install the plug-in on my old hardware unless, I meet the 1gb for every 1 tb requirement.

[@exactlylbs]

I never know what he’s talking about. Like ever. I just enjoy watching

[@rmoog1019]

7:51 hey Linus. This is called a software RAID. Linux and FreeBSD are very well familiar with installing themselves sans the /boot partition on those. I thought you should know that the only downside of RAID is that RAID is always vendor-specific, no matter if your SATA/SAS controller offers quasi-hardware RAID, or you got a real hardware RAID, or software-defined RAID as with ZFS, btrfs or mdadm. No matter which way you go, when you migrate to a new RAID, you must make sure that the computer that migrates the data supports both types of RAIDs. Bare HDDs have vendor-specific headers written to them so that they actually are recognized by their RAID controller as members of an array. It's not something to worry about for tomorrow or even next year, but 10 years from now you might want to know that kind of stuff! I'm glad to see your presentation improved. Please keep up the good work.