This thing runs OFFICE and ADOBE APPS like they were NATIVE?

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There are plenty of use cases where people might need access to some specific windows apps, and running some of them on Linux can be a hassle. Wine has come a long way, but it still fails to run some of the most popular apps without a huge performance hit, like MS Office, or the Adobe Suite. Fortunately, there might be a solution to run these apps as if they were native to Linux.
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The Setup
Set up the KVM machine: github.com/Fmstrat/winapps/bl...
Set up Winapps: github.com/Fmstrat/winapps
Run this to start libvirt: sudo systemctl start libvirtd
Run this if the "default network" doesn't work for libvirt: sudo virsh net-start default
Add this to the ~/.local/bin/winapps script : export LIBVIRT_DEFAULT_URI=qemu:///system
Winapps is a script that will let you access windows applications, running on a windows virtual machine, right from your Linux desktop. It integrates a number of applications in your menu, so you can launch them like any native linux app, and they'll show up as "regular" Linux applications, in their own window, you won't need to use them in the VM's dedicated window.
I left the links to the install guides in the description below, they're going to be way more detailed than what I could fit in a 10 minute video.
My goal here is to try this out, see how well that works, and see if it's a viable alternative to other solutions, like dual booting.
Still, just to sum up the steps, you have to create a KVM virtual machine using Virt Manager, edit a few parameters of the VM, add to it a second disk drive for the necessary drivers, install Windows 10 PRO on it, and then create a user account, install required drivers, add some registry entries through a file, rename the computer and enable RDP, and then install the apps you want to use inside of that VM.
Then, you reboot the VM, and run a check to see if Winapps can connect to that virtual machine through that remote desktop protocol. Finally, you run the Winapps installer to detect the apps, and it will add them to your menu.
So, how does it run?
Well, it's really kinda nice. I only gave 2CPU threads to the VM, and 1GB of RAM, with the ability to go up to 4Gb, and still, every app started blazingly fast.
By default, Winapps only autodetects a handful of applications, including the whole Adobe Creative Cloud suite, the whole MS office suite.
In use, the apps showed up in my dock, I could resize the windows, move them around, minimize them, and interact with them as if they were native, although they don't use your window manager to display their window borders.
I could also copy paste text from my Linux desktop to the windows apps themselves. Winapps also seems to bind these applications to the right file types, so you can open a spreadsheet using Excel through Winapps, and it will work just fine, and you'll be able to save it in place, without any issues.
I tried running Word, Excel, and powerpoint, which all worked great. All features are accessible, the interface is snappy and responsive, it just works exactly as it would in windows.
I had to remove a small argument in the start command for outlook to work, but after that it launched and operated as intended, with a weird tendency to maximize itself even when I told it not to.
I also installed adobe Creative cloud, with more mixed results.
Photoshop opened after a really long loading time, and it took even more time displaying anything and letting me create a new document. After that, it worked alright, although there was a noticeable delay when using a brush to draw my masterpiece on the screen.
I'm pretty sure more advanced uses of this app, if they exist, will meet with a bit more friction and delays, but it's definitely usable once it's started.
InDesign flat out refused to work, launching with a weird overlay on top of it, and never responding to any action I tried.
Illustrator worked fine, I could open a blank template and play around with my incredible Illustrator skills. The "New documetn" window though, was trying to escape from my screen and not displaying anything apart from a cryptic title.
In general, for the Adobe CC suite, it's a bit hit or miss

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@ES-cf4ph
@ES-cf4ph 3 жыл бұрын
Windows: "Let's create a Linux VM in Windows to run Linux Software." The Linux community: "Let's create a Windows VM and integrate it into our better OS."
@crapphone7744
@crapphone7744 21 сағат бұрын
Linux needs to get real. LibreOffice is good but the spreadsheet is nowhere near at the Xcel level and does not fully compatible with Excel functions and macros. That's just not going to work for most people sorry.
@rathv964
@rathv964 3 жыл бұрын
the reason why I haven't fully switch yet because my job requires these applications.
@thexavier666
@thexavier666 3 жыл бұрын
The actual and technically correct "windows subsystem for linux"
@dikahadipriyanto1418
@dikahadipriyanto1418 2 жыл бұрын
sigh
@jonck2go94
@jonck2go94 3 жыл бұрын
Really funny those running windows... "we really don't belong here. Let's get away as fast as possible!" Nice.
@AbdelaliAbdallah
@AbdelaliAbdallah 3 жыл бұрын
I never understand why Adobe not making their apps available natively in Linux, did they know it's even exists? i love your content and you sense of humors too
@ashutoshbhushan6107
@ashutoshbhushan6107 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest. Libre office doesn't even compare to office. It's not even 10 percent
@prasaddd
@prasaddd 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a mess, better to dual boot
@totao007
@totao007 2 жыл бұрын
Linux to windows apps: take the blue pill and you will forget this conversation, take the red pill and she will free you and take you to the real world…. Windows apps: “ohh my god take me out of here, this is not real. Move, expand, explode, crash. Linux: daam bro i think its not the chosen one, look at him go.
@Speykious
@Speykious 3 жыл бұрын
"Just like today's sponsor!"
@TheNightquaker
@TheNightquaker 3 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting solution for sure. Thanks Nick!
@headrushindi
@headrushindi 3 жыл бұрын
I use Linux for many things, and have for a long time .
@WolfiiDog13
@WolfiiDog13 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to complicate more than just using a normal VM, and it doesn't add much in terms of functionality. Here's what you can do, alternatively: open your VM in full screen in one of your virtual desktops, it will work as a normal Windows machine, and you can get back to working on your Linux desktop in one click.
@HarukaJad3
@HarukaJad3 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really helpful tool, thank you Nick! I needed to help me move over to Linux full time! Especially when my school requires me to use Windows and Office for the course work.
@grxgghxrpxr
@grxgghxrpxr 3 жыл бұрын
"or maybe I'm just a lazy bastard", wasn't expecting that 😩😂😂😂
@DTechDive
@DTechDive 3 жыл бұрын
Man I'm new to Linux and I had to click this video instantly!
@perseusarkouda
@perseusarkouda 3 жыл бұрын
That solution might work well for Office or any low GPU dependent application but it will be a terrible solution for almost any Adobe application and other image/video editing software that require heavy use of GPU.
@uwu_peter
@uwu_peter 3 жыл бұрын
7:49
@Blaqw00D
@Blaqw00D 3 жыл бұрын
I was so exited when I saw this video...
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