YT's All-Rounder gets even Better! The New Jeffsy MK3

[@jx5012]

No headset cable routing, so a bike I would consider.

[@TheLoamWolf]

It's a good one!

[@barrakingbeatz7794]

💯

[@jorgenunez7608]

Love that yt has kept their pricing realistic and planted on the ground for the ordinary folks.

[@8654ZuluFoxtrot]

This MUST be sarcasm....because da'amn!

[@Alan-75]

Realistic pricing! Ha ha😂😂😂 Good one..

[@nseb5748]

@@Alan-75 yes it is very realistic in this day and age

[@DownHillgamer]

Yeah still not as reasonable as polygon, but way better than pivot and Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz is getting ridiculous having to pay that commifornia tax, even trek has better priced bikes

[@Phonophobia]

Robert has been a blessing to this channel. Love seeing this man on two wheels and talking about them.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you and we agree!!

[@mikesavicky503]

My first stop whenever a new bike drops. You guys give the best reviews 🤙

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you Mike, we appreciate the kind words!

[@BrandonWatkins614]

Best channel for bike reviews, always thorough without bogging down on the tech specs and keeping it digestible for the average MTBer thanks for the quality content guys :)

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you for watching Brandon, we appreciate the kind words!

[@mudkickerfiftyone3430]

Thank you for all the detailed sizing information. it was very helpful and appreciated.

[@blazelong3803]

Love the colorway on this bike. Wish they offered it on the lower Core models.

[@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862]

Very good review I’m a big Jeffsy fan Good to see they have kept the allrounderness and it’s still the classic trail bike of bikes I’m used to using the climb/firm switch and have gone for a firmer shock tune in rear and 10mm longer fork 🍴 Good bikes for long rides but still ok for shuttles and park days

[@Bikes_N_Adventure]

My 2022 Jeffsy is almost exclusively a park/downhill bike, insanely progressive geometry, lightweight and fantastic components for the price!

[@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862]

I love the gravity dna of yt and the bigger breaks. Next upgrade I’m looking at is 165mm cranks

[@Mstrgeez]

Good climber?

[@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862]

@@Mstrgeez yes but my set up is better with firmer shocks tune and climb 🧗 switch

[@Bikes_N_Adventure]

@@Mstrgeez a bit on the softer side, pedal bob is a real deal on the Jeffsy. With the flip chip in the high position it definitely helps! I’d say it’s 60% in favor of descending

[@vlbz]

Good tip, taking torso and arm length into acccount for sizing. Took me a while to figure that out on my own.

[@michaeldiamond7063]

Would love to see you guys compare this and the fezzari delano together.

[@NEmtb45]

Great Review, the model you reviewed, core 5, I think YT missed the mark on this one in terms of pricing, they put a $6.5K price on it, but the Capra uncaged is the same price and spec'd with flight attendant susp, carbon wheels and axs reverb dropper, it doesn't make sense for the Jeffsy to be priced in the Uncaged tier without being uncaged spec'd. YT should have just stopped at core 4 and then made a Jeffsy uncaged model for $6.5k and spec'd it accordingly.

[@johnb7090]

Great detailed review! Curious how tall the primary reviewer is, noting he started on an XL frame and decided he preferred the L. I'm in the awkward 6'1" category so between sizes but not at a skill/knar/balls level to always want full send playfullness.

[@ymckrgb]

He is 6'2", but has shorter than average torso and arms, usually prefers L over XL even tho sizing charts would put him on XL. I'm very similar size and after being on an XL Vitus Mythique that felt too big, I am tempted to now go for an L Jeffsy Core 2.

[@Tequila628]

Comments I was searching for.

[@JeepingNet]

It's a really nice bike - wish they had a bit of a nicer build on the aluminum build but that is fairly standard across the brands. I'm considering getting a new bike as I only have emtbs currently, and this is catching my eye. Also considering the Norco Fluid which seems like a direct competitor to this bike.

[@TheLoamWolf]

The Core 2 build isn't flashy, but looks solid at least!

[@Stefanoss]

If you're looking for a flashy all mountain aluminium bike why not go for the Stumpy Evo?

[@nikolaibohachevsky2301]

The industry is till pushing 29 wheels..? Nope

[@JeepingNet]

@@nikolaibohachevsky2301 - I just went from 29s to mullet and while I like the mullet there are trails in my area that the 29er was much better on. I still think I prefer the mullet for all mountain which I'm surprised the Jeffsy isn't but for a more trail bike I'm not mad at the 29er.

[@JeepingNet]

@@Stefanoss It is Certainly on my list since my main bike is the Turbo Levo but also goes a bit with bike shops and experiences. I'm not sold on my experience with the Specialized dealership or Specialized. I had quite a bit of problems just getting my bike after I stupidly paid in full and then not getting the bike I ordered (wrong colour showed up)

[@chriskrajewski6568]

I own a 2019 Jeffsy. I run it with a coil shock and Push coil converted pike 150/150 mm, -1° headset, MX/Mullet wheels, flip chip in high position, 165mm cranks for extra clearance. The head angle should be around 64.5° if Im correct. It feels super well balanced for me, very agile and playful while still being able to plow through tech. It's also very versatile, having fun on flowy trails but also being able to do bike park laps and enduro races. I think I will keep on shredding on it for a long time! :)

[@TheLoamWolf]

Right on, sounds great! Thanks for sharing

[@mitch_smith]

Fingers crossed they can get and keep them in stock!

[@michaelrieser9928]

Yeah on size in 6 foot, 76 inch wing span, and 34.5 inch in seem. Sometimes I feel larges are cramped for me. My Santa Cruz chameleon at 465 reach is just a bit short. Yes it’s playful and I don’t want to loose that but with the short chainstay it could stand to be a bit bigger. I’m liking the xl Capra at 485 reach. Something right in between the 465-500 we often see. The new high stack on some bikes like the Bronson and Capra feel pretty good too. It’s tuff when you move over to 40-40.2mm stem lengths you reach numbers kind of have to be in a good spot because you don’t want to go to a 50mm stem if you can.

[@joshstokmans5534]

I've got a Core 3 of the last gen on the way. Can't wait!!!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Awesome, enjoy it!

[@aaronburela432]

Would love to see an over stroked mx version just to 150 and 160 fork would be a ripper

[@TheLoamWolf]

Sounds like a fun time!

[@EthanRC_MTB]

Awesome!🤙

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you Ethan!

[@vlbz]

Not much changed. After the Capra I thought this will have a yoke shock as well. Luckily not the case. No headset cable routing. Still has a flip chip. Bit better geo. Seems like it will be great, as the previous version was.

[@Macca78]

Always like the look of this bike but the only thing holding me back is the warranty issues people have had with yt and canyon the same spoke to so many people and the vast majority have had a nightmare really puts me off

[@stevenroark6727]

Customer service goes a long way

[@sic1978]

I have found the YT mill in Surrey has been great! Crash replaced a 7 year old frame for me, that’s 2 years out of warranty/crash replacement.

[@howardjones8629]

I'm still running a mk1 Jeffsy, for allround trail and enduro (not race) use, with a 150mm fork. The two things that bother me on it are short reach and seattube thats too long. Is this better in these respects?

[@TheLoamWolf]

They have made slight improvements to both of these aspects, yes.

[@joemanly8386]

I am going to be ordering one of these here as soon as they are available again, but at 6'2" I am really struggling between the Large and XL. I'm probably closer to 6' 1 1/2" and I too have preferred not to have too much bike under me as I like to be nimble. It's been 5yrs since I've ridden and I am not sure which to size to purchase. My upper and lower torsos are proportional and I have a 33" inseam. Any advice out there?

[@TheLoamWolf]

Do you live near one of YT's showrooms? If so, we would recommend visiting one and demoing each size. If that's not an option, it very much sounds like you are in a similar boat as Rob (6'2") who also prefers a shorter, more nimble bike. Rob tested both L and XL and was uncomfortable on the XL, feeling much more at home on the size large. In fact, most of our crew, ranging from 5'11 - 6'2" would opt for a size large over the XL for the same reason.

[@joemanly8386]

@@TheLoamWolf wow! Ok that is great feedback. Thank you.🙏

[@Ry_Rides]

Seems like a solid bike for a bit of everything! If I didn’t have the new bird on pre-order I might have been looking at this. I know you have that in for review - any comparisons?

[@matthijsbreuer3515]

Doubting either get a Jeffsy, Hightower, Ripmo, Ripley or SC 5010. Any thoughts on the best pick for general trail/some enduro and occasional bikepark rides? Looking for most fun bike but capable enough to do steeps etc

[@MountainBikingTrips]

It looks amazing

[@TheLoamWolf]

It sure does.

[@curtrobertson6799]

I had the last version of the Jeffsy and sold it about a month after I got it. I thought it was a turd. Didn’t pedal very well and always had a weird creak or noise. Maybe it was just mine 🤷🤷

[@TheLoamWolf]

Sounds like you might have had a faulty bike or needed some maintenance, our MK2 Jeffsy didn’t suffer from the same!

[@lezhao-jx4fs]

Hello, at 175cm with 175cm wingspan, would you recommend size M or L for me? Thank you!

[@TheLoamWolf]

That will depend on your preferences. If you want a more stable bike at speed, go for the L, but if you want a more nimble and playful bike, go M.

[@Iggysport1]

Sweet vid Rob. Bike looks ace 🤘

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you Iggy!

[@jirivenhoda9620]

Thanks for yet another great review. I am in the market for new bike to replace my Cannondale Scalpel SE with something a little more trail-orientated and I'm torn between Jeffsy and IZZO. How would you compare the two - under what scenarios would you recommend picking IZZO over Jeffsy or vice-versa?

[@sim_dude]

would you put a 160mm fork on it to make it slighlty more downhill capable ?

[@TheLoamWolf]

It felt good in the stock configuration, so we probably wouldn’t bother!

[@paleh0rse]

at ~178cm, and coming from a bike with much different geometry, I'm completely lost trying to pick a size for the new Jeffsy... :(

[@cebubikebootcamp]

What is the Reach measurement on small size?

[@TheLoamWolf]

435mm

[@cebubikebootcamp]

@@TheLoamWolf thanks, I guess I will stick to YT Jeffsy Primus. YT used to have 393mm reach on Andreu's Tues, now I'm force to go to Junior sizes.

[@turntabillist]

Aren't storage compartments a tad overrated?? Plus, it looks like the rider was struggling to get the stuff outta there, 4:36 Geez, just use a bib inner liner with pockets on the back and put the spare stuff you need in the pockets. No need for a goofy hip pack, either. I put a spare tube, multi tool, tire repair kit, CO2 cartridges, energy bar and tire levers in the pockets and never even realize they're there during my rides! Not to take anything away from that awesome bike, lol! She's a beauty.

[@karma2745]

can we use 160mm fork on this bike ?

[@karma2745]

oc...

[@kiethpederson7558]

I like this bike but not sure if I need all this travel I ride mostly flat gravel road that has trails broken off on it which are rocky and Rudy to say the least I was thinking maybe the Izzo however I'm kind of hesitant as I bought a Vitus sentier in September 1923 my hadn't even had a couple months before they went out of business I've never heard of YT that wouldn't be the case also looking at some of the canyon spectral

[@jayr2615]

Great review! What kind of windbreaker are you wearing?

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you! It's the Velocio Ultralight Trail Hooded Jacket - a nice lightweight option, but not the most resilient for days as wet and wild as these were.

[@brandonreimer184]

I love my mk 2 jeffsy. The mk 3 seems like it addresses most of the dislikes i have of the mk 2.

[@TheLoamWolf]

It's a fun ride!

[@BlackFlag94]

Is this off piste FoD? I think I recognise some of the trails

[@TheLoamWolf]

Yes indeed, well spotted! And some Cwmcarn in there too.

[@psychonaut038]

The MK2 Jeffsy with coilshock changed the bike into a beast. Lot's of people did it. It's strange they did nothing with that information.

[@TheLoamWolf]

The air shocks seemed well suited to the character of the bike - they still offered plenty of capability.

[@psychonaut038]

@@TheLoamWolf Ah get it. 👍 It made me jump 10 times better. And plow down the rough stuff.

[@or-ian6973]

Coils rule!

[@kene8571]

Uncaged models dropping in 3…2…

[@flashfive23]

How tall are you?

[@geoffkoop]

he said 6'2

[@kozanostra84]

Song @7:19 ?

[@benky8874]

kinda late to the party but: Tell Me Something New (tigerblood remix) - instrumental version by Wellmess, Tigerblood Jewel

[@kozanostra84]

@@benky8874 found out 8 month ago, thanks anyway 😊

[@kozanostra84]

Found out 8 month ago, thanks anyway 😊

[@YanDoroshenko]

I doubt that neoprene the WETsuits are made from would really help with water resistance.

[@marm7335]

Have you ever worn a wetsuit lol...

[@mennowillems]

Do you think one could ride an enduro race on that bike?

[@TheLoamWolf]

It’s possible to ride it, but you likely won’t be quite as fast as a full enduro bike if it’s rough.

[@otisjordan5613]

These bikes are so nice, I just wish YT would stop speccing these Crankbrothers alloy wheels.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Why is that? We've enjoyed their performance so far.

[@otisjordan5613]

@@TheLoamWolf The same alloy wheels came on my Capra and they just were not stiff enough, in either direction. The hubs are draggy and the engagement is barely fine for a bike that costs 4k, or 5k in the case of the Jeffsy core 4. DT swiss has better offerings at a, at least for consumers, not a lot higher price point.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks for sharing, will keep an eye out for excess flex or drag on the long term test Jeffsy once it arrives.

[@elgeffe503]

Think that this build should come with carbon wheels other than that it's real solid

[@TheLoamWolf]

Carbon wheels would be sweet for sure. We expect an Uncaged build will bring some in the future.

[@HShaud]

My biggest hate with the Mk2 was that stupid water bottle….that thing was trash. This looks to be an improvement

[@GHinWI]

I’m not a big water bottle guy, but that’s a pretty pitiful space for a single bottle in there.

[@johnnnewmex]

As impressive as it is, Spez will release a new SJ in the coming months that will probably blow it away.

[@ssjj9584]

That’s disappointing. Thought the bike would be updated more. More geo adjustment, headset cups etc. pretty much the same bike just with storage

[@TheLoamWolf]

Small tweaks have combined to make a reasonable difference in feel. We understand the desire for more geometry adjustment, do you find yourself making use of it very often on bikes that have it?

[@dxp8668]

The only disappointment is the weight, too high for a all mountain 😮

[@brownzys]

Dont fix what isnt broken

[@ssjj9584]

@@TheLoamWolf yes I currently have a Stumpjumper Evo and have used all adjustments. Some adjustments I’ve even gone back to after riding previous adjustments. Because if I updated suspension, wheels, Cushcore, stem length etc. All these things effect playfulness or traction along geo adjustments to make so many different combos of balancing performance to pedal feel to dh feel. Some adjustments I didn’t really like at first once I kept riding for an extended period of time I ended up learning to like and start understanding more how they shine in different scenarios. You learn so much. It’s been about 2 years on the Evo now for me and have learned so much. Once you have these kind of options it’s hard to go back to 1 or 2 slight minimal change on a bike for myself.

[@DB-sd3cw]

​@@ssjj9584you sound super lame

[@R1chJC]

Nice review. My feedback would be to try and minimise 'filler words' like 'um / like ya know / so yeah / err /' .

[@mitchsargent5543]

Rather than yell spec numbers at us, maybe compare the differences to the older model...

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you for the feedback. Key differences are: Geo - slightly longer reach, slacker HTA (-1deg), steeper STA Suspension - slightly more pedal support, increased progression, -5mm travel (now 145mm) Frame - cleaner, sleeker lines; downtube storage compartment.

[@REB4444]

Where this channel lags compared to let's say, Biker's Edge, is that it doesn't tell us the nuances of pedal characteristics compared to other more well known bikes, what the differences are, and who the bike is most suited for.

[@chrism5768]

I think what you're looking for is the long-term review. These guys dont give you that after a few days of riding to pump out group think content.

[@TheLoamWolf]

As @chrism5768 says, those kind of points will be covered in the long term review. We’d rather hold out comparing with other bikes until we’ve exhausted different setups and terrain.

[@Oh_Sully23]

10 months on, how’s the long term review going?

[@johnnyweekend]

Young-Talent also referred to as YT: The German company that was first to go Direct to Consumer and made 5% profit off their bikes when they were first sold. Direct to Consumer kills local bike shops and with all the big box brands following suit, it will be the demise of MANY bike shops. 4 bike shops in my city closed their doors in 2023 as a result of their suppliers slashing prices and going consumer direct. Sad.

[@Alan-75]

Maybe manufacturers should stop being so greedy and lower their prices, plus stop the constant push on carbon frames and 29ers.. £2500 is now classed as budget with frankly a lot of below average parts on..£5/6k is mid range and 8/10k+ is just ridiculous. People go Direct to consumer as you tend to get a better specced bike at a lower price. If the so called big manufacturers specced their bikes better at respectable (ISH) prices they would get more customers and wouldn't be struggling like they are now, plus bike shops would get more custom through bike sales.. I mean Who doesn't want a better specced bike for a lot less money? Direct to consumer will only get bigger unless the industry stops being so greedy.

[@johnnyweekend]

@Alan-75 The funniest thing about Carbon frames is they're almost 3/4 less expensive to manufacture than aluminum, yet they charge twice as much as aluminum frames. Components are what's gotten so expensive, such as drivetrains, brakes, and suspension. Components are the main reason why bikes are so expensive. I'd rather get a bike at a shop that fits me correctly rather than a bike with better components that feels too small or too big.

[@stefan-ge]

no MX 😒

[@TheLoamWolf]

They just launched the Uncaged 13 with a MX setup. Looks sweet.

[@eugenux]

YTs are still making bikes and ppl are still buying them? (after all the shite shows of the last years with the QC and warranties); I'd consider owning one only if I would receive one for free. With my own money, no chance. The same now applies for nukeproof, for which ideas like warranty or crash replacement does not exist anymore. unfortunately, #brands to which you should stay away... as peace of mind is more important than a slight lower-ish price.

[@Robin887]

I got dilemma right now between new Jeffsy core 1 vs Spec status 140 vs giant trance x. I assume your advice is to better not going into YT? Best regards

[@sic1978]

@@Robin887I love YT, certainly the YT mill in Surrey have been great, you can email them for tech help, even though they make nothing from this (and I was asking really annoying questions about fork offsets.) they crash replaced a Tues frame for me at 7 years old so long as they could have the frame for examination. That’s 2years beyond their obligation!

[@aaronblonden6774]

​@Robin887 I owned a status 140 and sold it. Kind of awful pedaler, still managed. Would buy a jeffsy if it was between those two. I built a mullet 24 optic, kinematics and geo are actually almost completely unchanged between the wheel sizes. Just chainstay growth changes. It rides and climbs better in every way then the 140 did and only has 125 rear travel. I'm taking the alloy frame with a vivid to bike parks and shuttle zones. Phenomenally capable. When I want to be a bit more pedally I take my izzo. Which I love and have had two with different builds. It's a rocket ship climbing and my buddy has had one and a jeffsy and thinks he's not giving up much climbing his new jeffsy as his built out izzo.

[@Robin887]

@@aaronblonden6774 thanks a lot for very comprehensive and reliable answer. Cheers

[@topchoice1621]

I really like YT bikes and feel that they’re one of the best brands out right now and keep their prices pretty reasonable for what you get compared to other bike companies that give you shitty specked bikes at outrageous prices good job YT for doing a nice job for the consumers who love your bikes 🚲 and @theloamwolf thanks for bringing us the latest and best bikes for us to look at.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks for sharing and watching! They do a good job for sure.