Brian Shaffer Is Missing and Someone Is Hiding The Truth

[@TheLoreLodge]

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[@yoredeerleader]

In the Preppy Handbook “tuna” is slang for “girlfriend.”

[@henkdachief]

your 1 liners before every intro of the episode are so bad they remind me of horatio caine from csi miami when he does it :D

[@Augfordpdoggie]

i hate you.....i was just getting ready to go to bed, and now i have to stay up and watch your greatness

[@captaincrazyhat]

I did try to warn you guys how corrupt Ridley cops are

[@kaptainkmann7808]

in your research did you come across the Sun Watch community? southwest Ohio. they have been studying the site for a long time and may have info your looking for .

[@kathryncumberland]

Brian's poor little brother! He lost his mom to cancer, then his brother disappeared, then his dad dies in a freak accident 😭

[@Dregaz]

I know. Feel so bad for that kid. I hope he's okay now.

[@cripbk2147]

Brian is most likely dead

[@kathryncumberland]

@@cripbk2147 And the sky is blue. No sh*t, lol.

[@cripbk2147]

@@kathryncumberland then why you say he disappeared when he dead

[@kathryncumberland]

@@cripbk2147 Because I was thinking of how his brother must feel and relatives rarely want to admit their loved one is dead without their body proving it.

[@odawe-wadabingie1830]

my father is a detective in scotland, i often watch channels like yours with him and he never appreciated the evidence they proposed nor their skill at factually gathering it. however he always praises the work done by yourself, saying that you explore every possibility (even supernatural though he doesn't pay any credence to such reasons) We now watch every video within an hour of release and is the highlight of our weeks sometimes, thank you

[@Swerv0.]

Random note but, I love your grammar and way of writing! Hard to find people who notice such things online but now but good job 👍

[@CryptidRenfri]

​​@@Swerv0.Not that I want to be critical, and I feel bad for pointing this out, but their grammar in that comment is terrible. The sentence structure is decent, but the grammar is terrible. Well, I say sentence structure because of the way I can tell it would flow if they were speaking, even though there's only one full stop and no capitalisation of the beginning of any potential sentences.

[@CryptidRenfri]

I'm sorry, I wouldn't normally make a point of anyone else's grammar (especially when mine isn't perfect) but in this case where it's being clearly incorrectly praised, I feel strangely compelled to. I'm sorry. I hope this comment isn't perceived as an attack at all.

[@TheChaz81]

​@@CryptidRenfridon't you attack me with your clothes on!

[@atmywhitson]

​@@Swerv0. I was just going to comment something along the same lines! Refreshing, huh? :)

[@PalmelaHanderson]

I don't think it's necessarily suspicious that Clint lawyered up and shut up. Any lawyer would tell him "there are signs that point to you whether you did it or not, your best move at this point is to keep your mouth shut." That doesn't mean he did anything, just that innocent people do get convicted because of circumstantial evidence, maybe he felt like he should consult a lawyer just in case, and any lawyer would tell him to shut up.

[@jamesknapp64]

Clint is doing what you should do if you're innocent. If there is any hint of suspicious from the cops Lawyers up and plead the 5th immediately.

[@mr.kittysavestheworld695]

Yeah. Even if someone is trying to help, if you're in any sort of way a suspect, talking about anything to anyone is one of the dumbest things you can do. I think a lot of people have the impression that the universal advice to "say absolutely nothing and get a lawyer" is some kind of stereotype, or even just paranoia, and that it couldn't possibly be that severe of a problem in any real-world situation, and they are just entirely wrong. The number of completely innocent people who've caused themselves massive headaches, or gotten themselves into big trouble, by opening their mouths is astonishing.

[@bloodyneptune]

Oh for sure, if a friend I went to a bar with disappeared, and Id just had a fight with them, Id have a lawyer _immediately._ Id know what theyd think of that

[@MelissaThompson432]

Rule # 1: ALWAYS GET A LAWYER. ESPECIALLY if you're innocent.

[@jeezycreezy4220]

Especially given Clint's somewhat rocky past with Brian. It would be way too easy for authorities to take some of the incidents that occured between the two and run to a conclusion that may be false.

[@emilyguerrero2557]

What you said about police not collaborating with outsiders, they even refuse Ken Mains, former police, former cold case detective, founder of a cold case association. He made a great comment to them once regarding a really old, famous case. They said they would not allow anyone to help out, and he asked, "And how's that working out for you? " As you can imagine, the detectives were not amused.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

Considering they were being clowns I can't imagine why.

[@megs4193]

That is so arrogant and crazy, when a life is at stake, and a father and brother and girlfriend are in such severe grief, I would have taken help from another country, and I would have put pressure on that alleged friend of his, you never leave a friend behind, he should have been concerned immediately, no matter what Brian was doing, you never leave a friend ever 🤷‍♀️😣🥺❤️‍🩹.

[@liljerseygirl249]

The l9cal police should not be permitted to refuse help, at least not from government agencies such as the FBI. They did that same thing in the Jon Bonet Ramsey case & what a mess the police made out of that. We need laws in place that prevent this type of police ego interference with investigations. Someone knows something and I bet more then one person has information they are withholding.

[@nancy2anne]

@@megs4193You’re right! And, as far as I can tell, Clint not Meredith called the next day to see in he got home a-ok. Also, the fact that Clint changed his name and moved away seems somewhat suspect to me, too.

[@megs4193]

@@nancy2anne it's all so awful isn't it. So many yong wasted lives, around the planet, or innocent people gone. Thank you nancy2anne, i appreciate that. The very least we can do as human beings, is the very least we can do, we can't be super heroes, but we can, look after friends and innocent strangers 🙂 I'm 54 now, my favourite weekends are when one or 2 of my grandchildren come and stay. And even here in Tasmania, i teach them with their parents, this is the world occasionally, better to be alway prepared than not. To many people have been lost. It has to stop. Thank you again for being kind in the comments, i appreciate little things like that. Because today, in this world, a kind word is huge, i agree with you too. About changing his name and moving away. If there's a crime, somewhere there will be evidence, if the get the chance to put resources on it.. it's so tragic, Nancy, it really is 👋🙂 ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹.

[@Haroldballard89]

Hey Lore Lodge , I have a case here in Ontario Canada . The lost boys of Pickering. Today marks 29 years of their disappearances. 6 teenage/young men party one night and decided to steal a boat and a big wheel water cycle and head into Lake Ontario never to be seen again . No trace of them or the boat . Quick briefing of the case . Would love to see your work on it , I think it's right up your alley.

[@nomdeplume2213]

Yea that's one weird ass case

[@userequaltoNull]

I mean, just on the surface, it seems like the boat may have sunk. There are still missing freighters under the lakes, I'm not surprised a boat and a water cycle couldn't be located :(

[@bananafruit6060]

Sunk boat, rich kids, drunk, water. Draw your own conclusions💀

[@PhoenicopterusR]

It's a huge lake, is it really a mystery?

[@PhoenicopterusR]

@DementiaDon they really don't. I'm pretty sure Lake Ontario itself is bigger than some entire US states.

[@robynwilde]

I'm a born Ohioan and my former roommate's mother was murdered in Columbus, possibly for the contents of her purse. Though the family is convinced they know the guilty party, the CPD refused to even interview the person. I know some truly awesome policemen, but they do NOT work in Columbus.

[@atmywhitson]

I'll drink to that! 🥂 #TPD ALSO suck!

[@leigha2814]

Remember when the columbus police shot Casey Goodson Jr for entering his house with a subway sandwich?

[@scottdavidson526]

I live in Newark, OH, and your statement about the CPD is accurate.

[@lakesidesusan6745]

My friends Mom was poisoned by her 2nd husband. Friend had Moms hair tested & positive for poison. Husband had Mom cremated within 2 days & claimed all of Moms inheritance, home, personal possessions, etc. Law Enforcement disregarded friends findings.

[@captmike1720]

You just described any police department in Louisiana unfortunately. We still have Napoleonic Law in the state. America’s own banana republic 🍌🫤.

[@Bleepins]

I was totally wrapped up in your native history lesson, you started talking about Brian again, was like woahh who tf is this guy? Totally forgot why I was here lol

[@bloodyneptune]

I swear I do that with every video lol

[@GalvMermaid50]

😂😂😂same...I had to go back and look at the title 😂😂😂.

[@merlinbotha363]

Lmao 2 minutes in I was like "Wait I'm not here for the history of Ohio" and skipped the history lesson😅

[@cube252002]

When does that eventually happen, 15 minutes in now and Brian’s name was at least mentioned…?

[@joselitop5402]

@@GalvMermaid50 Omg I did the same Thing 😂

[@VT_Writer]

@3:38 *Puts a finger on your lips and whispers in your ear* “Don’t you ever apologize for being you. Explain history to me now.”

[@Duckpajamas]

Bro….💀

[@Duneswalker]

Oh snap 😂😂 whew look out❤!!

[@13donstalos]

Ass tag?

[@atmywhitson]

​@@13donstalos That translated to: "Is it day" huh?🤔😅

[@atmywhitson]

Hopefully, my partner someday! 😊 I'd honestly really like to meet someone someday who is as much of a history buff as I am. Good stuff.

[@bungalowfeuhler1541]

Ever seen one of those videos where a car appears out of nowhere in a busy intersection? The car is just perfectly hidden from view, but it’s really spooky. That’s what happened here. He walked out the door and another person blocked the view of him.

[@TheMunchyelena]

Could yes but even so he still never made it home

[@indie8722]

i think that this is true; my theory is that he left with someone or caught a ride, and the person who drove him, possibly drunk, got into a car accident, maybe killing him; they then probably tried to bury him or dump him somewhere out of guilt and panic. edit: theres also always the possibility he stumbles into a back alleyway and onto a road, gets hit by a car, and is hidden out of guilt and panic.

[@Megnificent.]

You should look into the case of Thomas Brown from Canadian, TX. He was a teenager that went missing from a small rural town under very suspicious circumstances the night before Thanksgiving. Everyone suspected local law enforcement who had harassed Thomas in the past. Sure enough a year or two after he went missing, one of those suspicious officers found some of his remains in an area that had been searched many times before. This case needs more exposure and more eyes looking at it! I love your videos and respect all the work y'all put into them! Thank you!

[@deboracopeland4795]

I’d like to see them do that story too.

[@Megnificent.]

@deboracopeland4795 His mother deserves answers! Someone knows something and they need to speak up.

[@Skyfire-x]

Damn, you gotta feel for the brother: Lost mom to cancer, brother missing, dad died by falling tree branch. I'm only 40:00 in at this point so I don't know...😧

[@nikicrowe2768]

This is so true. I always think about Derek and what a tough road this has been for him. Brian was in my graduating class, I met him in first grade. He was a such a sweet soul, a generally nice, funny, smart, just cool guy. I saw him about 2 weeks before he went missing; his mom had just passed. It was just a random Wednesday and I had been eating lunch. In walked Brian-I can still see his huge smile. We talked for like a half hour. I think about the day often and I wonder where is he? Where did he go?! Anyway, I’m sorry this was so long! Did not mean to go on and on.. I wanted to let you know that I 2nd your sentiment-Derek lost his entire family in such a short amount of time.

[@davemccage7918]

Cursed, they’re cursed. Simple as that. Some great-great grandfather of Brian probably ripped off a Gypsy; they don’t take kindly to that.

[@teejae2065]

There is not a "limit" to how much sorrow or happiness we each get...like eeyore says "we can't all, and some of us dont"

[@ItsDesca]

I absolutely love how you go over the Native tribes that lived in the area before talking about whatever happened there in each video. Their history is always so fascinating to me!!

[@donseesyourshaydim7529]

If you were born, oh, 30 years earlier, you would have been an investigate journalist on the award winning show 20/20, next to Barbara Walters.You deserve more awards, dude.This is top notch.

[@ichangedmynameforyoutube]

Wow, that’s a bit of an insult, don’t you think? Dang.

[@LateNightRewrites]

​@@ichangedmynameforyoutubeyeah babs walters was a joke

[@ichangedmynameforyoutube]

@@LateNightRewrites 💯! And a terrible person to boot! Had he been born 30 yrs earlier, he would be way better than B. Walters.

[@TheSnowMan-cy9tu]

Damn. Why you hating on dude like that 😂

[@BSIII]

Polygraphs aren't admissable in court and are a psychological technique. They aren't arbiters of truth or guilt, whatsoever.

[@nickhartwell6889]

Aidan needing clarification on "burning one up with Bob Marley" is so adorably innocent. 😂

[@cjvaye99]

Penn State is supposed to be a party school. maybe party's in Pennsylvania are different. as in lame.

[@Bub009]

Hes full of sht.He knew.

[@tylerwhite4557]

@@cjvaye99some people go to college to graduate

[@PenskePC17]

I read somewhere that the media has overblown how much coverage the cameras actually had and there's a large blind spot, but Idk how true that is.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Depends where you are. He definitely can’t have gone out through the main entrance/exit. The emergency exit, however, didn’t have cameras; it did have a security guard.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

@@TheLoreLodge Who could easily have been slipped a $20 to let him go out? Was thinking about the Tijuana sighting too - and it appears that the FBI involvement was sometime in February 2020; given that (and I hate to excuse the FBI of anything!!) it may be that they literally couldn't go to Tijuana in March 2020 to investigate a 'random homeless guy'. Personally, I'd expect that finance may be a large part of the reason: If Brian had already racked up Medical Study debt and (potentially, according the the anecdotal arguments) been blowing through his Mom's life insurance money irresponsibly; finding himself needing to becme a doctor in order solely to pay off his student debts would be a massive amount of internalized pressure for a guy who just (perhaps) wants to play around and be a wandering minstrel / rock god. He would also not be letting down his parents, sadly, by that stage - and his brother would hopefully be well taken care of by inheriting everything. Surely if Brian deliberately did give away his phone that's a fairly major clue that he doesn't want to be traced - if that was his phone passed over. Could still be foul play of course, but seems less likely.

[@andrewmaximo4485]

I used to install and set up cctv cameras. The tech has gone a long way since 2007. I was in HS in '07 but I can only imagine that the best cctv cams at the time had maybe 240p. Plus I live a mile and a half away and there is a big padio that wraps around the front that you could perhaps slip out through without being on camera. Also 2007 would be pre-gentrification OSU. I wouldn't be walking around alone at night a block east from that area back then. It's safe now but then...big nope.

[@jamesbowman6925]

@@andrewmaximo4485 I think he probably exited through the construction area, mouthed off to someone or stood up to someone who mouthed off to him, got killed, and got tossed into a dumpster. He could have gotten stuck in a weird dead space within the building or between buildings, but you'd think that he would have been found by now. The idea that he ran off to start a new life is absolutely asinine.

[@TheMunchyelena]

Either way he never made it home

[@ChristineT314]

I just had my ACL repaired by a doctor named Brian Shaffer earlier this year. This title scared me so much for a second

[@goose33]

Was it him

[@AisurusLivingHell]

@@goose33 The truth is that his ghost repairs ACL's.

[@mouaviahamza4849]

Another girl also comment on this type of video that he met a doctor brian and he look similar to this missing guy

[@Ashleyvadnais88]

​@@mouaviahamza4849no way?? Where

[@Ashleyvadnais88]

Where was this??

[@catsabotage3362]

All lawyers say no to a polygraph.

[@dogdoggddog]

It is the only logical response.

[@catsabotage3362]

@@dogdoggddog all Vulcans also say no to polygraphs.

[@cyanidesmile7263]

Because they're incredibly unreliable (so unreliable that even courts won't allow them to be used for evidence), many things can effect the results, even if the person is telling the truth, such as medications, health conditions, the emotional state of the person, the environment, possibly even subconscious thoughts, and the administrator can misread the results. Even the American Psychological Association says there is no evidence that a pattern of physical responses, such as the ones that polygraphs test for, can confirm that someone is being deceptive. Polygraphs are junk, so it's no wonder lawyers and suspects would refuse to take one, especially since the general public don't know how unreliable they are and still think they're accurate

[@bb-mf6qh]

The polygraph was invented by a guy who also used them on plants and wrote a whole book about how plants can read minds and feel pain of things around them. It's actually so insane any police/investigators still use polygraph.

[@piro88]

Folks all courts say no to polygraphs, not just lawyers. Theyre inadmissible as evidence since they have been proven time and time again to be quack science. Cops love them just like they love all forms of fake criminal 'science'.. it gives them an excuse to hire another government employee/expand their budget etc/engage in more tactics to falsely imprison people in a for profit system.

[@bananafanafoferry6970]

The only people who claimed he was going to propose to Alexis are from her family and friends. Nobody on his side of things have backed this up. Brian was flirting with other women…..he was not that into Alexis. She was clearly way more interested in him.

[@Augfordpdoggie]

and it must have been still is, painful to always be associated with this case....of a guy that wasnt that into you

[@zxyn7]

She called him nearly every day for a year when he was most likely dead, there must’ve been a strong bond between them

[@JimMilton-ej6zi]

I absolutely believe that after a certain point in a case, they should be forced to release every single document tied to the case and have it be publicly viewable for anyone to see, since there have been many times where cases like this could've been solved had the information not been tucked away in some evidence locker that only the police could view.

[@herstoryanimated]

This would be an interesting concept. If, say, a case has been cold for 50 years, all files become public, public are able to form hypotheses and fund specifically approved private detectives (to stop vigilante crap/harassment etc.) to chase leads that come up from the public research.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

​@@herstoryanimatedtruly cold cases sure, but I'd say prior to that those files should be open to request like PI, and such. It feels weird to lock up a case so long until you are just hiding events, like in some coverups.

[@herstoryanimated]

@@ChaoticNeutralMatt I definitely think there's an interesting avenue to be explored here, just do think vigilantism and poor interpretation would mean strict rules would need to be in place. I wonder if forming an organisation to manage the release of information and arrange the PI work would be best?

[@markbalentine-w6d]

@@herstoryanimated yeah you could form an organization of like wikileaks version of public police cold cases that are not solve then have names date of incident possible suspects clues then have like a section where people give there imputs and clues and the best clue gets put at top then you created a file to pass it on to others to give there insights

[@seanheaney8303]

There is a major issue or risk with this....with these unsolved cases it is common they are foul play. They generally have shreds of evidence, possible suspects or even person of interest, unreleased pieces that if some one know they are involved.. If they release these it could result in a multitude of things, 1. The suspects ability to further hide or muddy the trail 2. It might result in vigilante justice against a suspect who was not actually the murderer. 3. It might tip people off that they know more then they are letting on. 4. The element of blindsiding a suspect is gone... There are many cases solveable in theory but when you have to prove them beyond a shadow of a doubt in court it is impossible. They will not try a case like that as the suspect is 100% going to walk. In the perfect world we could crowd source and solve crime but sadly it just isnt that easy.... him stating it just ego why they dont release stuff is clearly not true.

[@cannadaddoit7460]

The way this guy went missing reminds me of that story of the dude who got stuck in the grocery store he worked at. Either behind the shelving or on top of walk in or soemthing like that. They looked all over for him and only found him like 15 years later upon service or remodeling. Or that other dude that died in like baltimore or soemthing in a little square of unused space between a bunch of buildings

[@tfxreference8562]

this happens...

[@lynpatricia6854]

They tore down the original building eventually didn't they? So he would have been found at that point.

[@Boxman2.0]

@lynpatricia6854 No, the building is still there. The bar closed, though.

[@pdmullgirl]

Ewwww, I know that case!! Yeah he was found behind a freezer unit. They never heard his cries for help bc of the motors running and the fans. What a horrible way to go. I believe his arms were even up over his head. That’s how tight the space he was in was. How horrible. This case with Brian, not knowing is just awful. ❤️💜💚

[@jackiemyers2773]

There wasn't a door he could break? Or a phone? Anywhere?

[@recycledbag2410]

As a columbus resident, I live down the street from Ugly Tuna Saloona, I pass it multiple times a week and I never knew !

[@recycledbag2410]

It reopened a new location near the old location

[@whatsername101010]

There are still some Brain Shaffer billboards around the city too.

[@sneakyviewing4391]

The wildest stories are always right beneath our noses aren't they

[@CandiRhae00]

That's because Columbus doesn't like to put their failures on blast and generally sweeps them under the rug. There's a lot more where this came from.

[@Enoo-wynn]

Do tell. ​@@CandiRhae00

[@Scienzkid]

Right got it, don't name your kids Brian.

[@adenkyramud5005]

And here i thought life of brian already taught us that... 😅

[@laurelindoren4105]

I'm so happy you talked about the Indian mounds. I did a report on them in the third grade and I haven't been able to stop thinking about them since.

[@killing.killian]

I don't think you're supposed to call Native Americans ’Indians’.

[@CoyWolfManh]

On the night he disappeared, Brian had just taken final exams for medical school. How did he do on these exams? If, for example, he failed these exams and / or showed evidence of not having given a real effort, this could add to your theory that he disappeared on his own free will

[@creacher00]

That’s actually a really good point!! I’ve seen a few videos about this case, and for all the details it seems his scores have never been released. Yeah, he pulled all-nighters that week & historically got good grades, but that doesn’t mean he did this time around

[@BrookeaCookea]

The fact that just a few days before his disappearance, he told his girlfriend to find somebody else because she didn't want to RUN AWAY with him, ok because he knew he was going away. On his own free will, should tell you everything you need to know.

[@JackJones-fg1jx]

Nobody can stay hidden at that age. Not with social media, people can’t help themselves but post .

[@BrookeaCookea]

@@JackJones-fg1jx that is FALSE.

[@AzureRadio]

​@@JackJones-fg1jxYou are either a child or just dumb. People do it everyday, even today. It's MUCH more difficult than it was before the internet became what it is now, but it's nowhere near impossible.

[@kathryn653]

Aiden: this guy goes by a different name on LinkedIn now. Also Aiden: here's his whole work history.

[@anthonycastellaneta4956]

Yeah I really didn't like that. There was a lot of information given about him that wasn't relevant to the story, and could easily lead to people directly harassing him.

[@fronthal157]

@@anthonycastellaneta4956nah

[@Investigativeevents]

Seriously though.

[@TigerLily61811]

@@anthonycastellaneta4956 agree, not cool guys.

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

@@anthonycastellaneta4956 If The Lore Lodge can find him, anyone can find him. It's not like TLL are working with court orders or warrants or the power and overreach of the NSA or something.

[@Balrog-tf3bg]

Well, along with never lighting up a room with a smile, I now know not to change my name to Brian

[@blakeb9964]

Lmao

[@ufolandings]

Or Clint. Wouldn't want to be implicated by accident

[@sianbeecham2825]

Now come on Brian is marvellous name, take the risk. lol 😂😂😂

[@Wynneception]

I find these cases where someone disappears in an inhabited area (city, town, on a road) much more unsettling than national parks disappearances. There are exceptions of course, but the vast majority of national parks disappearances are ultimately explicable by some kind of variation on “they got lost and died from misadventure”, and that’s not exactly unexpected in the wilderness. Although it can and does happen that people in urban areas wander into some place they’re not supposed to and get stuck somewhere and die where their body isn’t found (eg people have died stuck behind refrigerators in supermarkets and not been found for years), it’s so much more of a freak occurrence compared to out in the woods. But in either case urban disappearances exist in this place where the explanation is either some kind of truly bizarre thing happened, or that something sinister happened. There’s no in between where the explanation is something totally normal.

[@gabriellebuis7370]

This is the first time I have heard this story be told and it actually make sense...thank you

[@theredmenace22]

I think this is one of the most in-depth dives into this case I've ever seen. Brian's disappearance is one of the first "we can't really call this a true crime case but it's heckin weird" cases I ever got interested in, and goddamn did y'all do it justice. I really appreciate that you gave equal credence to all potentials; I don't think I've ever seen a presenter make a good case for voluntary disappearance, but you did a great job with it.

[@sparklefairykitten]

Hmm. If I had to guess, I would speculate that Brian did decide to disappear and start over. I think he may have contacted Clint after the fact and told him, but begged him not to tell anyone. That's why Clint was cooperative at first and then clammed up suddenly. He contacted the lawyer to advise him how he could protect Brian's secret without incriminating himself.

[@brandondahlmeier4335]

Exactly my thought as well. Only thing time that really makes sense.

[@CurtisEarle-b7w]

A lot of people have come to that conclusion, what most people don't realize is that it is nearly impossible to cover your tracks to make it look like you just vanished.

[@AlienKissy]

@@CurtisEarle-b7w it was a lot easier back in 2006

[@thatguyharambe8757]

@@CurtisEarle-b7w Not really. There are whole underground industries for illegals coming in through mexico. Fake IDs, real socials under other names, etc. If you know the right people and have some cash, you CAN disappear.

[@krystalkasprzyk1789]

I had that thought as well

[@candicehiles729]

The problem I have is that I was 24 years old in 2006 and yes cameras were a thing but we didn't really know it. People didn't really have a concept that what you're doing in front of a camera is forever. So the idea he or someone else avoided the cameras is off to me

[@smm855]

That's one of the main reasons why I don't think he intentionally disappeared. I think he walked through the construction site cause he was drunk and didn't notice it wasn't the way he came in and something bad happened after he left

[@candicehiles729]

@@smm855I agree 100%. The level of consciousness about cameras just wasn't there enough for anyone to purposely bypass them

[@csolivais1979]

​@@smm855the construction area was inside the basement of the bar. There was no exit. Where did he or his body go?

[@forfoxsakemary]

@@candicehiles729 unless you DO want to disappear. I'm pretty sure (and of course I'm not assuming that it's what happened but if it is) that if he did want to disappear without a trace, he would think of the cameras. People still knew there were CCTV cameras. And it wasn't his first time there so he could have easily known where they were.

[@thisisgettingold]

Enemy of the State came out in 1998. Some of us were well aware of the surveillance state long before 2006.

[@ScotCinamon]

I was a student at Ohio State when this guy went missing (ironically I went to Ugly Tuna for my 21st birthday years later), I still remember flyers of him all over campus. My friends and family bring this case up every now and then, it's honestly nuts to think that essentially we're no closer than when I was there at the time. It's crazy to see the true crime/KZbin community so involved with this after such a long time, and surreal to be able to recall personal memories of news clips, the flyers, etc. I'd love to get some closure for everyone involved, here's hoping that day comes eventually, though I know this case is so popular because it is so unexplainable.

[@ErynRenee]

I was a student at the time and friends with security at ugly tuna...he didn't jump off the balcony. Staff did it often to retrieve phones. He would have been seen. There were cops always standing in that area below - and it was a high traffic area.

[@victory8928]

I think he just walked out of the main entrance with a crowd

[@LLJWLLLP999]

This is one of the most baffling cases that I've ever heard. I hope the club and it's workers were closely investigated.

[@ajnegro2052]

Exactly man. The cameras make it unlikely he was kidnapped. And no one heard any unusual noise. This case is pretty much unsolvable with the evridecne we have at the moment

[@kevinnguyen5042]

@eddyog3157and all those 2 ladies he was talking in the camera in front of the place.

[@herstoryanimated]

You'd also think people would remember a guy sliding down a roof!

[@herstoryanimated]

@eddyog3157 🤣 it's often the normal looking ones you have to worry about!

[@ZealotOfNothing]

His friend and the friend's GF killed him. That part is obvious.(Argument, both lied, both didn't search very well and weren't interested in looking for him).

[@randyp9491]

digging a little deeper I read that dogs traced Brians scent to a Wendy's located behind the Tuna and that was also where the girls from the bar had parked their car. I also read that there was one dumpster that didn't get checked before it was collected and sent to a landfill in Tennessee

[@StanCat4]

Nice addition; thx

[@susandyke7318]

Those two girls are suspicious. I think they more than they say

[@rockstarofredondo]

There were supposedly “private dumpsters” whatever that means, and they did not get checked before being collected.

[@imfulltimebroyoureparttime3610]

​@@rockstarofredondoprivate dumpsters almost certainly would have been locked

[@tylerwhite4557]

@@imfulltimebroyoureparttime3610no

[@RangerGucci]

I like when it cuts back to the dog getting pet lol

[@tomb2768]

Penn state🤔 I recall something in the sports department years ago , but don't follow Penn state.

[@TheNellehFox]

I don't know how you ended up in my recommended feed, but I sure am glad you did. Really loving your videos!

[@annageracoulis]

My heart goes out to Derek. I can’t imagine being so young and losing my parents AND brother in such tragic ways. Lord have mercy on him, that he should have a loving, supportive community around him

[@gEtar87]

That's why I'm naming my kid Notbrian

[@Reflect744]

Well it's 2024 I think he can use out imagination these days and steer away from the old basics😂

[@LateNightRewrites]

Notbrian you get in bed right this instant

[@bb-mf6qh]

​@@Reflect744 2024 it's Briwyn lol

[@ironsam2381]

thats just great. now what am i going to name my kid? TotallyNotBrian?

[@stellamariss3335]

@@ironsam2381Brian’t

[@cosmicalkitsune5998]

I have been fascinated with this particular case for years and love watching coverage of the case, and I have NEVER seen anyone cover it like you have. Everyone I have watched has ruled out the possibility that he could have left on his own so firmly that it was almost mind blowing hearing you fully dive in and cover everything! Thank you as always for the dedicated coverage (and the always loved history lessons!)

[@Trish.Norman]

This is weird. We were just talking about this case today. Weird! Very very odd.

[@DTfangirlJenn]

That kid in Nashville reminded me of this case

[@jevinday]

We were?

[@LateNightRewrites]

​@jevinday yeah man, come on you were there. Surely you couldn't have been drunk enough to not remember.

[@Brumsly]

Weird! Very weird. Very odd, but certainly very weird…

[@ajnegro2052]

It’s pretty much unsolvable with the evidence we have. Either freak accident or out the country tbh

[@angierankin7634]

Hey! I have heard this case on numerous podcasts abd other youtubers, BUT i will say i really like the way Aiden told this case,it really made me look at this in a different way! I was definitely thinking foul play,but after watching your theories, im leaning more towards he wanted to dissapear. The other youtubers didn't go into depth about brians relationship with his girlfriend, and your theory sounds very plausible! You did a great job covering this story! And btw my husband's name is Brian, so people commented on dont name your kid Brian,well thats just people bein sarcastic,its not cause of the name! Keep up the awesome work Lore Lodge!! Angela, from PA

[@xxthesarcasm]

I keep thinking of the case of Annie Le. Yale student who was murdered in her lab. CCTV never showed her leaving her work place, only for her body to be found stuffed inside a wall.

[@Carlieillustrations]

Ugh I’m so happy to see more videos covering him!!! This case has always been so interesting to me and I’m so glad the lore lodge is making vids about it😭

[@jamesknapp64]

Lazy Masquerade was my intro into it though I had heard of it before

[@okyep]

Not too interesting he's in the concrete behind the bar. Dig it up and give his family closure

[@daltonlucas5529]

There’s sooo many videos covering this case…

[@michellerutherford9551]

I'm with you!❤

[@michellerutherford9551]

​@@okyepyou think, I mean at this point anything is possible. This case fascinates me.

[@cjmchugh6917]

This is easily the best video on this case I’ve ever seen. I’ve been into true crime content for a long time. This is one of the ones that’s always stuck with me for some reason.

[@katwim9169]

14 minutes in, I completely forgot this was about a missing guy

[@raritania7581]

Average lore lodge experience

[@prowlprime]

That’s why I always fast forward to the actual focus of the video which is in the video title.

[@aw2633]

Same, I was enjoying some history and then he started talking about Brian again and realized.

[@quickredf0x143]

Happens to me in nearly every video. Of course that means it is enjoyable enough that I forget what I'm watching.

[@Trev-jz6yw]

I just read ur comment as I was checking the description on the video to see if I accidentally changed it to the next video or something. I was like WTF am I listening too!!!’

[@givingyoumyheartandsoul9564]

i find it quite weird that clint and meredith (?) just left without really looking for brian? isn't it kind of a universally accepted rule that you don't leave a night out without your friends or at last knowing what they're up to? and than even the next day, they just called him a couple of times but didn't even go to his apartment to check what's up. i think most people would never be this careless about their friend. based on just this, i'm pretty sure they knew what happened to him, whether foul play or disappearing on his own record.

[@colinrauch]

Or they are really not his friend. Not uncommon for the people you hang around to not give a fuck about you

[@Wtfzipcode]

been a while since i heard of this one, almost forgot about it, so im glad you made a video! cant watch the yuba county one, seen too much stuff about them and its so sad

[@njunderground82]

This reminds me of a case I saw a video on before, where a guy vanished inside a bar and ended up being found a long time after in a basement wall. He apparently crawled through a small hole and got suck in a void in the wall and died there.

[@hollynelson3883]

See Canadian news report in Winnipeg, story and link upthread.

[@kelleemerson9510]

Wasn't there one were they were remodeling and they found a missing guy behind the refrigerator/freezer in a restaurant and it looked like he was on top and fell head first behind it. Not sure how there was no smell???

[@katiegallardo1897]

This was in Omaha, NE! And they did recognize a smell... But couldn't figure out where it was coming from 🤮​@@kelleemerson9510

[@katiegallardo1897]

Sorry, Council Bluffs, IA. Same thing.

[@rockstarofredondo]

@@kelleemerson9510he was mummified so he did not decompose normally, and people actually did complain of a bad smell but chalked it up to rotting food because it was a grocery store after all.

[@tierneylogan5943]

The idea of someone just casually going to med school while they wait to get a band together makes no sense to me. I wonder if someone in his family pressured him to go to med school and after his mom died he said f it.

[@kcbarbo78]

I think too much is made of his wanting to get away and fantasizing about lounging on a beach somewhere playing his guitar. Getting a professional degree is hard, and that’s ESPECIALLY true if it’s a medical degree, and then to be dealing with his mother’s illness and eventual death at the same time … not surprising that he seemed like he wanted to escape for a while, that he seemed less than enthusiastic about medical school. You get grief mixed with overwork, stress, possible burnout (pulling all nighters for recent midterms). Many a graduate student feels this way, and you wish you were on a beach somewhere, but that’s just fantasy. You hop on a plane for spring break, get some sleep, return to school and get on with it. I remember feeling a similar way in law school while battling with untreated ADHD and personal problems, and I’m 100% sure if I disappeared by accident or misadventure and investigators read my diary they would have thought I decided to abandon my life and drink mojitos on an island somewhere. And that wasn’t anywhere as difficult or stressful as medical school, I’m sure. What Brian was going through only seems noteworthy to people who either never earned a doctorate-level degree or who have but are extremely talented and had it come easily to them. I really don’t find his attitude unusual at all. Some people are in medical school, etc, because they’re extremely driven, and it becomes their entire life and what they base their identity on; this guy had other stuff going on his life as well and other interests. Meh. Not a big enough deal to make me think he abandoned his entire life, including his grieving family, without even packing clean underwear and some extra money.

[@MummyBrown]

I totally believe he was thinking of leaving. People “disappear” for all the time for a multitude of reasons. He had many reasons to: didn’t want to be a Doctor and saw the opportunity to leave that life behind, the death of his mother could have easily kicked him into gear to make different choices in life, and depression. The tells for me are the things he said to his girlfriend; he basically asked her to come with him, effectively asking her to quit her own medical career to which she understandably declined, then he told her she should find someone else a couple of days before his disappearance. That could arguably be considered a form of planning on his part. I think people make a big deal about his friend’s involvement. He was rightly advised by his counsel, and NO ONE should be questioned without proper counsel. Another layer to this is that if Clint was on a scholarship, many schools will retract your scholarship if you get tied up with something that brings in the police. People want to argue this, but Clint did the right thing. It looks like everyone in his circle took their studies seriously and their lives since have proved this. I can't say I feel the same about him. That's not at all a judgement on my part, I'm just offering up some food for thought.

[@lakesidesusan6745]

My friends brother became a doctor so he could retire @ 50 and play on the Senior Golf Circuit!😆

[@MummyBrown]

@@lakesidesusan6745 , that's a good plan if there ever was one!

[@Lunch_Meat]

It's actually not a bad mix. My day job is as a medical massage therapist. My side hustle is as an artist (painter, primarily) Because of the work I do, I got time to do my side hustle stuff and I make enough between the two of them that I am comfortable in life. Now, granted, I didn't go for being a doctor or anything but that's because I never wanted to be rich, just comfortable.

[@chispitablanca]

I worked at the grocery store, Sunflower Market, the entire time it was open. It was part of an ill-fated “natural foods” grocery project by SuperValu Inc. and that particular location was only open for about a year and a half (it closed in early 2008 due to the economic recession as well as the company biting off more than it could chew by acquiring Albertson’s). I can’t speak for the particular time period in which Brian disappeared, but we had a gigantic trash compactor at the back of the store by the loading dock and it was accessible by the shared hallways. I don’t know what the refuse collection situation was before Sunflower opened, so I don’t know if that would be another avenue of exiting the building unseen. I can also echo the sentiments I saw elsewhere in the comments about the special degree of ineffectiveness of the CPD. The entire vice squad had to be disbanded due to rampant corruption. They had to bring in the FBI to do an investigation. I’m serious, google Columbus, Ohio vice squad and just read all the articles that pop up.

[@hannahgregor470]

I like the compactor theory (not that it’s a good thing, but just that it could be a decent explanation for it). It could also be why the dogs couldn’t find him in it. Garbage can throw dogs off.

[@ididntwantthischannel5538]

i miss the sunflower market.

[@daphne4983]

I just wrote a reply along the same lines.

[@Truth17John17]

The police had to be involved in this one. It's so obvious. The refusal to share any details or accept any help from other agencies says it all.

[@Ashleyvadnais88]

Wait was this a grocery store close to the bar? That shared this trash compactor or something

[@pommegrunge8398]

Hearing your history segments are always so fascinating. Personally, I live in Ohio, so I've been to the Serpent mounds and learned about the Hopewell in school. It's astonishing how different/misinformed the education was. I do recommend going to the mounds if you have the chance. It's a very relaxing walk if you go during a less popular month. They have places to look at the mounds from up higher, and it is such a lovely place. ♡

[@Da1Dez]

I find it so creepy when people who go missing in that something sinister happened but we have no solid idea and the person's soul is crying for someone to realise!...

[@stephenwhitlock3464]

This has nothing to do with the video but my 3 month old loves listening to this channel at bedtime. Never makes it more than 30 minutes in before she's asleep. Congrats Aiden, you're a master storyteller lol

[@dangerxbadger2300]

This is a great way to get your kids interested in history early! I remember I used to spend hours half asleep on the floor while my dad would be binging the history channel. I didn't know it then, but that was planting some very early seeds of the passion that would burst into full bloom come College. 😊

[@lakesidesusan6745]

😄😄😄

[@Truth17John17]

Something strikes me as off about playing a channel focused on murders and missing people, the evils in the world, to an infant.....so many more positive things you could be playing for one so young and innocent, maybe classical music or scriptural lullabies.... You play this channel for you, not her.

[@giftoffire4868]

I also find Aidens voice super relaxing. And there's something so comforting about the way he cares so much about the missing people, and the way he calls out the fuzz.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

I’m convinced he never disappeared himself, something untoward happened.

[@DoubleTailedDog]

Last time I was on campus, the spirit was so wavering, so the "We are Penn State!" call out is very appreciated.

[@LateNightRewrites]

Yeah wokeists have basically ruined most of the college experience, school spirit included

[@ayeshabrown7294]

I literally was just re reading about Brian the other day! Can’t wait to watch this for your take.

[@brstoffel]

Excellent work! Yours is the best researched report I’ve seen about this case. Yours is the only report that mentions the possibility of Brian exiting the bar out the window onto to the roof below.

[@joshuapatrick682]

This one defies speculation because if he was trying to “start fresh” why go out that night and be seen instead of quietly slipping off.

[@rpskaza]

I really love your channel! I live near Columbus, Ohio. My sister used to be a bartender at that bar, but it wasn’t during the time that Brian went missing. Such an interesting case! By the way, the Scioto River is pronounced “Sigh-Oh-Toe”.

[@baronvoncrags771]

It's actually Sigh-O-duh. Source: cbus born and raised.

[@rpskaza]

@@baronvoncrags771 Lol. Ok. I’m watching this for the first time although I’ve watched his channel before and he did pronounce it the way I typed it the second time he said it.

[@andrewmaximo4485]

​@@baronvoncrags771you should hear Google maps attempt to pronounce Olentangy.

[@justjordyn26]

Can you guys do a video on the Maura Murray case? Pretty please! Would love to hear your take on things 😊

[@tglake2894]

Ooh yes! I'd watch that video for sure!

[@bananafriel]

Omg yes

[@davidc4764]

He left with the band. Hidden in base drum case. He didn’t want to get married. He didn’t want to be a doctor. He wanted to be a musician.

[@NickyBlue99]

Did he become the bass drum for the band?! That sounds painful! Getting hit by sticks all night!

[@LateNightRewrites]

​@@NickyBlue99well if he was struggling with orientation it would follow that he might rather enjoy that 😆 🤣

[@scottsmanonahorse]

Why is this kick drum so heavy? I hope I don't... Drop the BASS...

[@LaLaLonna]

He was an adult though. He didn't need to be secretive and hurt the only family he had left. He could have moved away and started on his own without hiding and lying. Plus, to choose to do it on a night you've been drinking/prob drunk? He didn't have any warrants so why cause even more pain to your brother and dad when he didn't have to?

[@scottsmanonahorse]

@@LaLaLonna I think you're missing the joke

[@dennisdaniel1146]

Thank you. This was one of the best coverage of this case I have seen.

[@cynthiajohnson1458]

Great presentation. Awesome researching. Lamont, PA

[@ros7007]

Why would he give a girl his number if he intended to dissappear?

[@Clarice-e6g]

Cover?

[@gaynorhamilton4571]

Why would he give a girl.his number if he was intending to propose?

[@GothicPurple]

to make it appear as though he was not intending to dissapear

[@LaLaLonna]

​​@Black_Knight15why get drunk off your a$$ the night you're planning something so serious? That would take precise movements and thinking to pull off? He wasn't running from the law. He could have easily told his remaining family "this is to much, I want to start my life over and I'm leaving". Why be so secretive and hurt your brother and father who are also grieving? I don't believe he ran away and started a new life.

[@grilledleeks6514]

​@gaynorhamilton4571 why would we think he actually intended to propose if he told her to move on and find someone else?

[@chakroc]

Tip of the hat to the research you did in this case, and the awesome job you did explaining all the possibilities. I've watched many videos on this case, as i find it very intriguing and mysterious, yet almost all the other videos seemed to simply draw the conclusion that Brian is no longer with us, either from foul play, or an accident. Now that may be what ultimately happened, but thank you for providing thoughtful and insightful points that possibly lead to a different conclusion. We will never KNOW what happened until a body is found, or Brian himself is found alive...but props on doing the research needed to cover all possible angles. Much appreciated.

[@Robin-xg2hl]

Columbus resident here! it took me a moment to realize you meant the Olentangy river. it is pronounced ole (as in old without the d) en TAN gee. Hope this helps! (On a serious note, I don't blame your pronunciation, its not the worst I have heard. Also, thank you for covering a case in Ohio, it's nice for the state to be recognized as well as getting an Ohio history lesson!!)

[@pamelamorgan7354]

I would never take a lie detector test as they are so unreliable and can’t even be used as evidence in court. It’s possible Brian decided to walk away from his life. Thanks for another great video. I appreciate all the work you and the team put into each story.

[@lunaoak6741]

I feel like the roommate thing could be ignored. I love and adore my best friend but we could absolutely never live together

[@Ashleyvadnais88]

That's you personally🤷 id love living with my best friend

[@justsomeyoutubeaccount1047]

@@Ashleyvadnais88ok

[@freeman7079]

Listening to Schaffer’s MySpace description is like………are we sure this dude was going to be a doctor lol?

[@JE4-1]

“Brian Shaffer walks into a bar, and ..." -It’s like the worst joke of all time. On April Fools' Day too.🤣

[@mcperson8455]

Its not april fools day man

[@Ämyr2006]

Wtf are you on dawg its march

[@MadamFizzgig]

@@mcperson8455He went missing on April Fools Day

[@MadamFizzgig]

@@Ämyr2006He went missing on April Fools Day

[@chriskiefer7493]

🤡

[@josephcampbell9298]

I remember going down this rabbit hole back in the day. There is a theater nearby, or possibly in the same building, been awhile, that supposedly had an awful odor, like something decomposing, right after Brian disappeared.

[@sixonegfour2719]

Love your work! I’m glad to find this episode as I’m from Columbus.

[@kenthompson5723]

In all the videos I have watched on this case, the one thing missing from the discussions is a map of the interior of the Ugly Tuna, showing the exits. Without a map it's very hard to visualize the exits and where they lead. Further, if Brian had jumped over the "mad mex"? restaurant balcony (?), a nearby outside camera would surely have picked him up in its footage. My understanding is that no outside camera has Brian leaving the building wherein the Ugly Tuna was located in 2006.

[@lossless4129]

Been there 100+ times during my time. Here’s your map. 1. Rectangular floor plan - booths east wall, rectangular bar center east screwed. Larger open area west side. 2. One entrance/exit, south east corner - this unbelievably close to the escalator shown in videos. 3. Balcony is north wall - that drop was sketchy and would’ve made a scene. So many people around that time of night as well as bar staff on the balcony and behind band. 4. Bathrooms are close to entrance, south east corner. 5. Kitchen west of those bathrooms, south wall.

[@kenthompson5723]

@@lossless4129 Thanks much. If you could pinpoint all of the exists inside the bar, and describe where those exists lead, that would also help.

[@TheDespairbear]

I would watch these just for the historical sections, keep it up!

[@CryptidRenfri]

OH MY GOD I begged you guys to do some stuff with Roanoke on your community post as he is one of my favourite ever youtubers alongside ya'll. I saw a couple of other people mention him to you as well. I'm fucking stoked to hear that you're actually going to do it! It almost sounds like a trope I know, but it's genuinely my birthday today, and I don't really celebrate or do anything for it, but this is the best birthday gift I could ask for. Thank you so much! I definitely won't be missing ANY of the content you two collab on. You, him and Wendigoon all share a similar place in my heart lol

[@dangerxbadger2300]

Happy belated birthday fellow Lodge member! 🎉🎉🎉

[@alliejoniec]

Wendigoon shouted you guys out on the Red Thread for your extensive cover of the dyatlov pass ( know that prob spelled wrong, lol) Hope some folks come your way!! U guys do great work. Keep it up!!

[@jiyu9277]

He’s friends with Wendigoon They have made a couple of videos together before

[@zahennifa]

I just discovered your channel not too long ago. I really like the research you do for your stories. I've heard of this story multiple times but I'm learning stuff I never even knew about. Much love and I hope you blow up even more! You deserve it

[@Jim-Mc]

Others have mentioned a large garbage compactor on site big enough to fall into. Did you find any evidence this was true? He could have been killed or injured by the fall and removed undetected to a landfill without anyone there knowing anything had happened

[@missmay713]

I'm a bit confused at how he would fall into a garbage compactor unless it was below a ledge? Those things are usually pretty closed up (for safety reasons). Someone would have had to leave the top open AND he'd have to be above it, climbing it, or crawling in the shoot for some reason.=

[@SaturnDreamingofMercury]

Are you sure this isn't a conflation of details with the later case of Corrie McKeague in England? His disappearance was equally vexing to many because he was last seen on CCTV walking around the corner of a cul-de-sac from which there were seemingly no viable means of him exiting without him walking back out of then cul-de-sac where he would've been picked up again on video. But he never was. However, it was noted that there were trash lorries servicing the bins in the cul-de-sac within a few hours of him entering the cul-de-sac. Ultimately, a 2022 inquest determined he had likely gotten into a trash bin where he fell unconscious (he was intoxicated and had been out drinking also), and when the lorry serviced the bin he had entered, his bodied would have been dumped into the rear of lorry and consequently crushed by its compactor.

[@DanksterPaws]

@@SaturnDreamingofMercurya lot of people are parroting it, so maybe, and maybe not?

[@BrookeaCookea]

His scent was traced outside of the bar, so that rules out any theory of him being in a dumpster or falling in a trash compactor

[@baronvoncrags771]

Notable that Scioto-Darby creek, wher Brians phone pinged, is right near a rather large river, the Scioto, and Griggs Reservoir.

[@DneilB007]

Don’t overthink the phone pings. If Brian gave the woman he chatted up his phone, the pings would have been showing her travel, not his.

[@donnaoklok9105]

And a quarry where Stephanie Hummer (who disappeared from the exact same block in 1994) was found.

[@baronvoncrags771]

@@donnaoklok9105 interesting. I'm not familiar with that case. In 94, magnolia thunderpussy and mean mister mustards would have been on that block, correct? And taco bell was on the east side of high?

[@donnaoklok9105]

⁠@@baronvoncrags771yes, Mags was across the street and MMM / The Pit were on the east side. They really went all in creating an “artificially upscale area” right where we had the most fun.

[@baronvoncrags771]

@@donnaoklok9105 yeah, I was a tween in 94 but would go to mags with my older brother. I recall going back years later thinking "wait, this doesn't look right " lol. High Street from King to Lane is so incredibly boring now. Even 10 years ago it had some character. I think Larry's closing marked the end lol. But we're getting off topic.

[@arabella296]

Hopewell National Park is just south of Columbus and has a lot of these mounds and artifacts you mentioned in the video in it! A friend of mine works for the park! Super great place with a lot of rich history!

[@tammyharris2642]

I believe that he was going to college to appease his parents, more so Mom. And after Mom passed, even though he loved his family, her death was the motivation he needed to go off and live life on his terms. I think his friend is in on it. He needed help to pull this off.

[@nicolewenzel3643]

Thank you for covering this case. I was a college student at a different school in Columbus when he disappeared and I remember it so well. I spent time in all of those bars and lived in Clintonville. Everyone looked for him at every bar or club for years. The general belief (at least in my experience at the time) was that he was buried in cement on the first floor after something happened to him upstairs, and his body was moved after close when the cameras were shut off. I certainly think your theory is the most likely though. Your pronunciation of Olentangy hurt my ears, ol-en-TAN-gee. We really pull out the lake accent for that one. And you said Scioto wrong during the history, but correctly towards the end of the video, so nice work. O-H! Edit to add: The entrance of the Tuna was very, very weird. But I don’t remember there being many options at the top of the escalator except to go into the bar.

[@Valerietorelli]

I have been watching Lore Lodge for awhile now I always learn something from you. I live in Southern New Jersey exit 5 on turnpike. My question is can you do a video on the Jersey Devil please? Thank you and I love the coffee.

[@Rattattack]

I lived right next to tuna during college… we were always perplexed by this case

[@austinhgat]

I was so hoping this case was gonna be covered!! It literally keeps me up at night.

[@BiaG10]

Me too

[@erikschultz6865]

Do you think it coukd be a sui?

[@austinhgat]

@@erikschultz6865 Occam's razor for me. A good few of these missing people cases it always ends up they do these huge elaborate searches land and air but then however many weeks or months or years later the person is found within the vicinity of the search so if he’s dead he is around that general area but when they say everyone who left on the CCTV is accounted for I’d have questions and secondly the other door that had the security guards I think there are ways he could have slipped out. Or he just decided to leave and went wherever. The stories which end in that are few and far between but to me that seems the most likely. Slipped away and decided to go and get away from it all

[@Nikki-n7z7z]

I heard that Brian had gotten into a fight with staff at the club and they threw him into the garbage compactor and was crushed to death and that’s why he was never seen again.

[@BrookeaCookea]

I wonder what time the dogs were brought into sniff for Brian and when they threw out the garbage (which was never checked by police). The dogs would have sniffed Brians scent in the trash if he had been in there, I'm guessing.

[@ericquiabazza2608]

28:30 THIS, case close. Human/Organ trafickers. Also, if the camera was overwrote by bar's staff then Security is on it too. Disgregar security. We have a door not look at by a manualy controled camera. It just fits tipical traficker operation. 1-Search for Targetz in social media. Boisterous, teens, with BIG DREAM, gulible and physically atletic. He fits them all, giving so much personal information and picture out in the public. 2-Get the target to an acomplice local, or one with bad security. 3-Aproach target with "Manager" or "Babes" using big promises. 4-Separate target from friend and witneses. 5-Get target isolated. 6-Kidnap. You can even see most of them in thefootage if you where able. Searching for similar cases and disapearnces around 3-6 months appart will confirm it. The police also keeping tings hidden implicate they may have been following the traficking ring, or internal corruption trying to sweep t under the rug.

[@1Adamrpg]

Great coverage. You made sure to include some details that other videos on the topic didn't. It would have been cool if you could reach out to someone to ask what had been taken in the burglary of Brian's place, and whether or not it was determined that the person had actually broken in versus used a key. It might be a coincidence but I would have loved more details to think about that myself

[@crimsonnemesis3511]

I’d be curious… what his bank accounts looked like for the year prior to disappearing.

[@mushroom.momma13]

And after

[@emitutorials]

Not trying to be stupid, but what about his college transcripts? Maybe it coild show that he graduated after 2006?

[@aisling7244]

Imagine being just a random homeless man in Tijuana and multiple law enforcement agencies in two different countries start harassing you and accusing you of being a missing American guy. I can kind of see why they didn’t aggressively interrogate that angle when the tech told them “not a match.”

[@megapint1626]

That’s him. They should do their job.

[@benitopepolini1249]

@@megapint1626how do you know its him? 😂

[@jeffnicholas6342]

I lived in Columbus for years and worked at the Gateway Film Center across from Ugly Tuna. This was a frequent topic of local lore and speculation. The CPD sealing their case files only fueled suspicions of fowl play, and botched investigation. But without a body, it still remains a baffling case that haunts Columbus to this day

[@madisonlovell1853]

I lived right near the area where he disappeared, right near campus. This story is still talked about and theories are still thrown around. One is he was buried in the walls

[@unclewatermelons5376]

Grew up in Ohio and very much appreciate the ancient history of Ohio.

[@ajjohnson3497]

If you haven’t read “That Dark And Bloody River” you should, it’s about settling the Ohio River Valley. Might sound a little boring but I assure you that it’s far from it.

[@rpskaza]

@@ajjohnson3497Think I will check that out!

[@aw2633]

Is Ohio really just corn or is that a stereotype

[@sheiks65]

​@@aw2633it's highways... and mostly corn

[@megapint1626]

@@aw2633that’s Indiana you’re thinking of. Ohio is the one that has rivers that burn. 🔥

[@theenderqueen3062]

3:41 !!!!! My partner and I visited the Grave Creek mound today and read all about this!! We started watching your channel recently and realized that neither of us really know anything about the Native American tribes that used to inhabit our different regions, so we went to the museum for the Grave Creek Mound to learn more. It was extremely enjoyable, and now I’m nerding out at hearing what I learned there today on this channel. (Btw, the mound you showed when mentioning the possibility of them being used militarily is the Grave Creek Mound, and those features were added later by settlers. It was used as high ground during the Civil War, and there was even a bar atop it at one point. Also the settler who originally discovered it, purchased it and refused to let anyone disturb it because he was sure it was a burial ground for Native Americans and didn’t want to disturb their grave. Unfortunately his son didn’t share his views, and allowed excavation. It was in fact a burial mound, hence the name of the nearby creek as Grave Creek.)

[@letsdothis9063]

Several mounds seem to have had bars on top at some point. Here in the South, some people would build their houses on them, because it was high ground when the area flooded. Now with the levee systems, most of these places don't flood near as much, but there are still a few old homes on mounds in MS and LA that I know of.

[@dangerxbadger2300]

One of my favorite parts of this channel is that Aidan always devotes a segment to Regional indigenous history. Sadly, even though it's an enormous part of the history of the land we live on, so much of our early education as Americans glosses over, or omits entirely, the rich and complex history of these nations of people. Which is supremely unfair, considering we took everything from them and then completely erased them from our history books to add insult to injury. I think the fact that he does this is what sets him apart from a lot of other True Crime channels!

[@jordy6327]

obviously this is strictly speculation but i wonder if the brief mention of Brian possibly questioning his sexuality wasn’t completely unsubstantiated and something happened between he and Clint? he got a girl’s phone number, he and Clint argued that night-whether it was before or after Brighton (idk if this was said) doesn’t rly change my hypothesis that he could’ve been doing it to hurt Clint’s feelings or some other adjacent performative reasoning. The gf mention in Brian’s myspace bio does read as kind of silly, which could just be a boy intentionally being goofy, or maybe he put it in there just to add further proof to his straightness. there was also Clint’s post on Brian’s myspace, maybe the allusion to him being a player was actually because *he* felt played by Brian if something romantic occurred between them. that would also explain Brian trying to goad Alexis into breaking up with him, not wanting to do it himself for whatever reason. this still doesn’t rly implicate Clint as a perpetrator in my opinion because the attorney could be due to paranoia of any given thing; being outed, getting caught being involved in illegal activity but not being Brian’s killer, etc. as for Brian’s cod/whereabouts, i don’t really believe he was avoiding cameras when leaving so under that assumption his body still being in the building makes the most sense to me; combining those two ideas perhaps he and Clint snuck off somewhere they shouldn’t have, arguing or otherwise, and Clint somehow knows what happened to him, or knows where his body is. i’ve heard this case so many times at this point but this theory never really crossed my mind until this time. i’m just speculating and am here for respectful and pleasant discussion only 😭😭

[@Delana27]

Yes I think something was definitely going on with him and Clint. That comment from Clint on his page saying "Don't be fooled ladies, he likes ass tags" ... I kinda took that as Clint low key pointing out that Brian was gay. I don't see how that could be interpreted as being a player at all. He was clearly saying Brian likes *butt stuff*

[@florence.5088]

To add to this theory: 1. Meredith described her relationship with Clint as if they were dating, but Clint claimed they were just friends. Their relationship status seems murky. 2. Brian's brother seems convinced that Clint was involved. I'm assuming his brother would know more about the case and about Brian's life than the public ever could.

[@victory8928]

I do wonder why Clint wouldn’t just say what happened but lie a bit if that was the case. He had to watch Brain’s family suffer with his lose for so long and never said anything?

[@meganelyse8173]

As someone who relatively recently went through medical school, I think suicide is an idea that should be at least entertained. Physician and medical student suicide is a huge issue, and second year is when you study for and take Step One - the BIG one- and the stress is so intense. My school had so many suicides that they had a therapist and psychiatrist on retainer. Combine that with grief, and alcohol, leading to poor judgement… I hope it’s not the case but it could be. That may also explain why the friend won’t talk about the case- perhaps Brian said something and he feels guilty for not trying harder to stop him. Also, when applying to residency, every program looks you up- the friend may have wanted to avoid that being the only thing talked about on interviews and/or keeping him from getting interviews.

[@jc6800]

Thanks for looking at all the possibilities. I was always under the impression there's only one entrance. And I didn't know there was a band playing or that Clint and Brian were roommates at some point. I learned some new details about this case, stuff that wasn't covered in other videos or documentaries about Brian.