Peter Doig & Karl Ove Knausgård On Edvard Munch

[@revrevreviews]

As someone who reviews Art for a living and often struggles to find a way to make it interesting, it's wonderful to see these three try.

[@andrewbellavie795]

Would you be able to share your review platform, I'd like to read some of your writings

[@Eudaimonia88]

Karl Ove - the writer - appears to be struggling to express himself here and also has some unexpected difficulty with the English language. A surprising observation for me. In a way this three-way conversation is as much a struggle with expression and language and the anxiety surrounding that process on the part of BOTH interviewees (and also the interviewer) as it was a struggle for Munch to express emotion and internal language in paint. Yet he, Munch, succeeded to paint what he wished to convey very eloquently. It's a special, anxious interview. The possibilities of language to explain something important have not been tapped into, this conversation fills the viewer with a lot of anxiety, mainly because these two artists are unable to use language in a way that conveys something in an elegant manner and they thus fail to include us in their respective worlds. Instead this is a heavy, lurching conversation between (mainly) two people who are moving outside of the world of language - not only the painter but, inexplicably, also the writer (whom we would like to rely upon to use language in a sophisticated way - but who doesn't). It's depressing to listen to while also strangely enjoyable since it is about Munch after all.

[@garymac8229]

Wonderful interview xxx Thanks. ❤

[@Kolobkova]

Wow,,how can you say that there is only one good painter in Norway,,,looks like Peter Doig was surprised to hear that also,,,he is true master so he is not so judgemental and much more humble to make such a statement

[@cameronkrause4712]

I think he means that there is only one internationally recognized painter in Norway, but I also wondered if I heard that right until I thought about it.

[@anthonylopez9594]

The matisse painting with the bathers and the turtle. Incredibly interesting that he depicts three figures looking very vulnerable and insecure in their nakedness, and in the middle woth one of them reaching out is a creature that has a shell or a sort of evolutionary armor so to speak.

[@freiburgluft6720]

Well obviously Doig is in this round the one who is not `a man of words`. But his painting work is just amazing. There are not so many amazing painters nowadays...

[@loriscunado3607]

Wonderful!

[@andrewbellavie795]

32:00 Friday the 13th ending is pure art, well done Peter

[@suttonallen7214]

wow! excellent

[@donovanvprose]

Doig may not say much but when you have a painter's perspective next to a writer, viewer etc, you have experience vs speculation, which is obvious here. Doig is just as iconic as Munch, he's just still alive.

[@Vatche-o7g]

Doig and Munch are nothing alike .. all because one paints in the style of Bacon doesn't make one Bacon ..

[@jeandupas-q2k]

we all know Doig works is derivative ( in a pejorative way) from Munch art, but what can you do unless reproduce what you love in painting now that figurative painting used all possible motifs...

[@erlendevensen531]

As much as i admire Knausgård, i disagree completely with his statement that we don't have more than one good painter from Norway. I'm so sick of this idea, there are sooo many both from Munchs own time and also today. Kai Fjell, Ludvig Karsten, Gerhard Munthe, Harriet Backer, Knut Rose, Håkon Bleken, the list goes on...

[@Delta888ful]

Thank you for saying this. Though Im no a entirely acquainted with Norway's history of art, I thought his comment was quite impossible to believe. Not sure what criteria his comment was based on, but again, as I was watching I said to myself "that has to be impossible". Anyway Thank you for posting your thoughts and particularly listing a few artists.

[@erlendevensen531]

@@Delta888ful It’s actually a bit of a terrible trend which has been going on for a long time in the mainstream art scene in Norway, putting Munch on a piedestal and making him so huge that other equally (or even better) painters fall in this monsters giant shadow. Although i do admire a great deal of Munchs works, it is the kind of ignorant comments made by Knausgård that keeps this myth alive. If you’re ever in Norway you will see what exceptionally high level of painters besides Munch have worked here in the last 150 years. Knausgård states rightly that when Munch entered the scene, national romanticism (like Tidemann & Gude) and social realism (Christian Krogh) were in vogue, but Munch was far from the only artist with radical ideas, it’s an ignorant statement. Cheers for reply

[@Delta888ful]

@@erlendevensen531 In a twisted way, some of that is going on in the U.S. as well. Many think there's no one better than the great, most popular, American and European artists. Those artists placed on pedestals are brilliant, but there have been others during the years and currently. You should see the dissapointment on some artist's faces when they realize or are told they can never reach those famous artists levels -- and, that whatever has been created is finite, that nothing knew can be created. In other words, don't bother, its all been done. It's a trend that has been perpetrated and perpetuated by museums and galleries, along with the exorbitent prices of art. The other problem is educational institutions, who are happy to take your money and leave you in debt, while sometimes not truly teaching the history of art or technical techniques -- and once they get you in the door, it's off to moulding you into the kind of artist that will sell extremely well and represent the institution well. It's a hard enough life being an artist without being confronted by these challenges and erroneous, ridiculous trends. It's a miracle people still want to be artists. But, the world needs artists... like it needs poets.

[@enrutuu6052]

you believe they have the same quality and status of Munch??? The artist you mention are very good......not on the level of Munch. IMO. There is a reason history remembers some artist and most get forgotten. Munch will not be forgotten

[@erlendevensen531]

@@enrutuu6052 Well as i say, i do think Munch is great, or much of his works are. I love the frieze of life, his portarit of Hans Jeger etc.. Of course he wont be forgotten. My point is not that he is not great, but that people have a tendency to over glorify him and it seems to put a shadow on other great artists, maybe there is a myth which even overshadows himself. The list i made was from the top of my head, i could keep going and I certainly don’t think those painters are any lesser than munch, less iconic maybe, but their paintings are of same quality as Munch, although maybe not same status, but thats cultural. Many other Norwegian painters give me more (and i am a painter myself)

[@Delta888ful]

Does anyone know the book Knausbgard refers to about Munch repeating an image and why he did so, copying himself? Thank you.

[@Delta888ful]

I found it, I think.... Poul Erik Tojner -- Munch: In His Own Words

[@Delta888ful]

@@thelouisianachannel Thank you very much for confirming it!!

[@andreacvecic]

''I get nervous when, (...), I rely on what I discovered, - , that makes sense;...'': thumb up.-)

[@tamarrozenblat]

Until when is the exposition of Munch? And where exactly?

[@tamarrozenblat]

Louisiana Channel thanks a lot for the information 🙏

[@CarlEuegene]

i am lost. I am uncertain of what the artist is saying. . .

[@heekyungkim8147]

🖤 karl ove Knausgard.

[@icjburke]

i bought a book by knausgard back in the spring but never read it. ironically, i've rented a few books on doig and read them all. always felt like doigs artwork was so similar to munchs, especially with the recurring images, expressionistic style etc. doig is too humble and not very good at talking about his art, which is probably the best thing an artist can be

[@philiphammar]

[@mojiri]

Bad painting contest : Picasso, Munch, Duchamp participated???

[@Vatche-o7g]

The real Munch's are in obscurity

[@grebenshyo]

lmao at "representational painter". no wonder munch's still so relevant to you

[@johncastle8254]

Artists like munch and Van Gogh will never come again because they lived very hard lives compared to the pampered luxury of artists today .Look at those three paunches .

[@calc2323]

swing and a miss

[@ricpic1]

Doig ruins it with his wandering all over the place maunderings.

[@vancouveruzbekistan5350]

Doig has no place anywhere near any masters such as Munch. His work is of an entirely different category

[@vancouveruzbekistan5350]

28:15 this painting is OBJECTIVELY trash