My EV is Being RECALLED as it's a FIRE HAZARD so I drove my ELECTRIC CAR to a Man who Buys Cars!

[@homahak]

If ULEZ was really about air quality why am I allowed to buy the right to harm people for £12.50 a day?

[@frankelf3151]

And air quality in the underground is almost 20x worse than above ground. It's all a money grab.

[@Acemeistre]

The idea is to encourage people to either take public transport or buy an EV, however with the sales of new cars at around 28% EVs and the current fleet of EVs on our roads at just 3% ULEZ has been introduced way, way, way too early.

[@thechojiin]

It's ok, I'm going to use an escooter when ULEZ comes to my area, to avoid the charges and help reduce pollution and congestion...oh wait, they aren't legal and the government hasn't bothered to make them legal, even though this would help with the above. So is the government really concerned about pollution or is ULEZ just another way of taxing the people it's supposed to represent?

[@thechojiin]

@Lookup2Wakeup it’s good to know the government has our best interests at heart 😏

[@rbnhd1144]

@@thechojiin Who the hell really wants a scooter, we aren't all wanting just two wheels, a night mare getting a weeks shop on one too.

[@actualfacts1055]

Australia now has solar powered EV charging stations in the outback, with diesel backup, they keep running out of diesel fuel for some reason.

[@williamwingo4740]

So you really have diesel-by-proxy-EV's? That makes sense....

[@niclightfoot4329]

Hi Lee, The disparity in range estimation between your car (which reduced) and Jeff's (which increased) is because your range (the EV) is measured on power reserve in the battery, which is a reasonably accurate reflection of the actual power reserve. In an ICE, the estimated range is based on accumulated past driving performance, and is not very accurate: if previous driving performance used a lot of litres per mile (driving fast or in stop-start conditions) and current driving performance is more efficient using less litres per mile you can very often recover (increase) estimated range on the current tank of fuel - I see it all the time. So, in an ICE, if you did a lot of constant fast driving for 100 miles (chewing up a lot of fuel), your current range will be estimated on this. If you now do a further 100 miles at a constant 30 mph your range will be adjusted / increased to reflect this. This is simple engineering. Basically, the range estimate in an ICE is a poor guess, whilst in an EV it is a more accurate reflection of battery reserve, but it is still dependent on how you are now going to drive the car - even in the EV you will reduce the range as you increase the speed. That's why when EVs sense they are low on power they reduce your speed to extend the range. So, no mystery here!

[@theoneandyt]

Just wanted to say, great post 👍

[@kirkjohnson6638]

Wbat gou said makes little sense. An ICE vehicle measures fuel left in tank and some estimate of future mpg based on both past mpg and current fuel flow rate. An EV essentially does the same based on current battery charge and an estimate of charge depletion based on past usage and present measurement of electrical current flow. The only reason for the range estimate to be better on one type of vehicle vs. the other simply has to do with the accuracies of the sensors employed and the sophistication of the equation used to calculate the remaining range.

[@neilgodwin6531]

That makes a lot of sense, it's down to the sophistication of the algorithm

[@hoolahoop6360]

400,000 signatures in Wales objecting to Drakeford's 20 mph madness.

[@1960ARC]

I think the 40'000 people need to go round his house and let him know.

[@paulwilliams8725]

And let's not forget the child labour involved with these Battery's.

[@morganprice1930]

As sad as that situation is it's a poor argument against ev batteries. Think of the trainers you're wearing, the shirt you're wearing, the fruit from o foreign land you enjoy....chances are children or impoverished people are being exploited to produce them.

[@certificateofvaccinationi.d.19]

@@morganprice1930 so that makes cobalt mining ok now?

[@morganprice1930]

Cobalt mining is fine as long as children are not exploited getting it.

[@richardlewis5316]

Air quality is the 'Council speak' for 'give us money'...!!

[@hazrobson2305]

We are being forced back to "1984". The madness is glaring at us. Yet we still follow like sheep. Let the people decide not the government.

[@FabulousWanderers]

Everything you said is spot on Lee. You've got Porsche by the short & curlies, get a good result from them for letting you drive around when you'd already told them that there was issues with your vehicle 👍🧡

[@joa8227]

Has anyone noted the BBC news report today (4th Oct) on the EV in Scotland that had to be stopped by crashing it into a police van? The driver had no control of the car and called 999 for help. I will never buy an EV. It's a scam (in my opinion)...

[@steverushforth7009]

"Hello is that Porsche HQ?" Yes, "Can you tell me how often do your cars catch fire? "Just the once sir.

[@theoldman8877]

International climate summit, a fleet of private and commercial jets flying all over the entire planet just to talk about how to oppress the public in general.

[@johnnunn8688]

The politicians are travelling to summits by gas guzzling private aircraft, when Zoom calls exist.

[@tubewayarmy2]

Every country is being held to ransom, so that they toe the line, while the CM is implimented. We have to stand up and push back, whatever the consequences.

[@rbnhd1144]

I work on all types of cars EV's ICE etc, there is no doubt an electric motor has torque making the car faster on take off than any I.C.E.,Yes its a thrill and I like that too, but still you are limited by speed limits, speed camera's and other road users, so there are certain limitations, Once you are up to speed the only benefit is faster over taking, on a good long run that speed advantage goes in away as you sit charging while the ICE waves goodbye. I love Geoff and the deep thinking he does, he's a very intelligent and honest man, if only the people running the country were as smart and honest as Geoff, so thanks Lee for having Geoff on, that has to be the longest MacMaster I've ever watched and I loved it.

[@chrisaris8756]

If ULEZ was about air quality, how come it’s ok to pollute the air as long as you give Ghengis Kahn loadsamoney.

[@djtaylorutube]

Not even that, it's ok for me to drive my classic V8 without a catalytic converter. No issue at all and ULEZ exempt. I understand the idea behind ULEZ and the intention but if it's really only 10% of the vehicles that aren't compliant, that's really disproportionate, given that eventually, those will disappear to be replaced by compliant newer ones. Because it disproportionately affects the fewest cars of those on the lowest incomes, on that basis alone, it's somewhat unfair.

[@st200ol]

Would you prefer the Paris solution then? A total ban on older polluting petrol and diesel cars, no daily fine just scrap em? I don’t expect a reply BTW, in fact I don’t even want one. 😂

[@richardgelber2740]

I'm taking my car to the Saddiq and Ghengis Khan Garage.

[@animal355]

The mayor doesn’t understand the weather cycles either…the wind blows the ‘dirty-air’ back over the clean air zones.

[@ponderguy7724]

Everyone knows old EV batteries go to heaven and come back as fluffy kids toys.

[@dellingson4833]

When a container ship burns out of control for 2 weeks then this happens last March, "The cargo ship Felicity Ace carrying thousands of cars, has sunk due to the fire onboard which occurred in mid February. The ship carried a large amount of electric cars, and the burning lithium on board is thought to have made extinguishing efforts much worse".

[@15bit62]

This is actually a lot of misinformation. Earlier this summer I talked with the guy in charge of dealing with fires on a long distance car ferry. He said, very bluntly, it doesn't matter what kind of car catches fire - they have no really effective way to extinguish it. They have zoned water sprays, and in principle some guys can go onto the car deck with hoses. In practice he told me that they will just use the water sprays to suppress the fire long enough to get everyone off the boat and then let it burn out. The one fire he has seen was a diesel generator that overheated, and the fire spread to some cars and that was it. The ship was scrapped.

[@dellingson4833]

@@15bit62 Then why were tugs with water cannons circling it for 2 weeks for optics. Then it became a lithium-ion artificial reef. Go search it there is tons of video's from many sources. You ever been around a EV fire let alone hundreds, i have. It's a different beast.

[@15bit62]

@@dellingson4833 I'm not saying that battery fires are easy to put out, just that fires on a car deck are essentially impossible to put out irrespective of the type of "fuel" the car uses.

[@apassionfortangling3671]

I was taught to cross the road when I was 4 years old, 58 years later I still haven't been run over. Then the green cross code guy came along. Look left look right and listen. Now they encourage pedestrians to not even look because the driver of the car should stop and let them cross. FFS a recipe for disaster 🙄

[@davearmstrong2296]

'Cycle lanes' (paths really) in Spain are superb because they are totally separate from roads, go through nice scenery, are as wide as a road, and built with super smooth tarmac for racing cycles with thin tyres. If we had them, I would cycle 30 miles each way to where I work, but it is too dangerous to cycle on the roads here in the UK and the cycle paths are almost all rubbish.

[@graemebingham1936]

Enjoyed your video, just a little note, do you remember when the cop 26 was hosted in Scotland and they transported all the dignitaries in Teslas, they had to hire Aggrecco diesel powered generators to charge them I kid you not

[@harryturnbull1884]

Just built a £1m cycleway near us - unused because of so much glass. I use the cycle lanes on the road. £1m to tick a few green boxes then not promote the route or keep it clean. Cheshire West Council that's you.

[@thetruthwillwinoneday]

Need to stop buying these cars, i would be so angry to spent £70k plus to be told bring it back as it might catch fire! I would want every penny back.

[@tubewayarmy2]

Volvo saying, 'no more estate cars' is like Greggs saying, 'no more sausage rolls' it just doesn't make sense. When somebody tells them that EV batteries burn at 6x the temperature than a petrol car does they will realise people don't want ti risk having a crash and being trapped in one.

[@hcw199]

I like to keep the chances of me burning to death at a minimum. I'll stick to tried and tested regular cars. 😅

[@D1331D]

Just imagine a return to the 3 day week and power cuts of the 70s. Would they stop you charging your car?

[@barrymillar5341]

40 million drivers in the uk its time we started to be heard im fed up with being fleeced

[@aaron___6014]

Exactly, how can we fight back?

[@carloverzeletti6521]

I have put my whole house off Grid. Designed it all myself. I DO NOT used Lithium batteries because of the fire risk and extreme cost. I use only GEL Batteries which have proven to be reliable since the 80s. They power Fork Lifts and the like.

[@andrewb8548]

A Toyota Tacoma that sold for 38k and a Taycan that sold for 120k on the same day are the exact same residual value 18 months later.

[@70chevs]

You need to have Geoff on your channel more often, you guys talk so much sense. I remember what my mum use to say about politicians "they might have all these qualifications but no common sense"

[@terranceprice7006]

It`s all about "DO AS WE SAY NOT DO AS WE DO."

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

As a Dane, we just had a Tesla which burned to something not recognizable stuff on a road! And an electric car is hardly able to be extinguished, if it starts to burn!!!

[@johnnunn8688]

Batteries are not just inefficient in the cold, they also are protected from the cold by being heated. Depending on the charger and if it’s cold enough, you can end up having less charge in the battery, than when you started charging it. Ridiculous things.

[@GT380man]

Do you ideally need in winter for the ice-cold battery to be warmed up in order to maximise the charge it will then accept? I’ve no idea if it even could be done.

[@bshah4831]

Recent Swedish Government report shows EVs less likely to catch fire compared to ICE.

[@Bucharestguidedtours]

The fully "Charred" show will be having a fit with all these recalls, great video, best wishes.

[@lavrentizapadni747]

Even at the last WEF gathering at Davos, the vehicles used to ferry the delegates and members around were ICE vehicles. Electric vehicles were not deemed sufficiently reliable for WEF use.

[@tonygilbert3508]

20 mph will increase emissions in ICE cars due to being in lower gear.

[@peterwalker417]

I have doubts about 20 mph limits when 30 mph limits don't seem to be able to be policed. I live on an estate with a 30 limit but some driving round here would give Max Verstappen and the rest of the F1 contingent a run for their money. As for 20 mph, why stop there? Why not bring back the person walking in front of your car with a red flag? Surely a win-win situation, a reduction in accidents and injuries plus reduction of unemployment ☺ Enjoying the video.

[@johnnunn8688]

Please don’t give the dicks ideas.

[@johngaskins4700]

What is the point in the UK going over to Ev's when China, India, USA and Australia are not interested. Our contribution amounts to nothing as you say we are being conned.

[@theoneandyt]

Whatever you think of Joe Biden's inflation reduction act - it's fair to say that America is making HUGE investment into EVs, and people are moaning that China is making too many of our EVs, oh yes and Tesla is shifting loads of production to India. Which just leaves Australia, but why is that significant? Not meaning to rain on your parade but........

[@johnnunn8688]

Not this ‘we’.

[@ianshelton9615]

June last year walked into Mansfield Mazda I’d already done my homework and knew exactly what new car I wanted (CX-30), on making my future purchase know to the salesperson he immediately pointed to a MX-30 (all electric) and said how about that, well I nearly fell on the floor laughing and informed him “not never on your life I’d sooner walk” Keep up the vid’s 👍

[@colinfountain6150]

S K has been running diesel generators 24/7 in the centre of London for ever..... To charge the BUS BATTERIES.... WTF?

[@horstschoninger1265]

EV'S the biggest joke in car manufacturing. In 20 years, people have a big lough about the stupidness of today.

[@ghl3488]

EV's are the biggest scam in motoring history. Also, if anyone thought that they would get cheap motoring in an EV are living in cloud cuckoo land. Some people have bought EV's on the back of this and I'll bet they regret that now that the cost of electricity has risen so much and of course they are to be taxed before long. In terms of restrictions, it is definatey to get us off the roads and limit our freedom of movement. I have no doubt about that. I live in Wales and the 20mph restrictions are absurd. I was out in the early hours recently and did 20 in a restricted zone. No-one about, no cars and it was absolutely ridiculous. But no-one is taking any notice of it anyway and a recent report into the effects of the 20 zones found that although there was a slight drop in speeds initially, that has dropped off now so goes to show that it is being ignored.But we have the power Lee. We must be careful who we vote for.

[@mmmoroi]

I love the the line "Everybody says No and universally against it (and still Khan enforced ULEZ), what else can you do?" Sounds like the folks prepared to chop the head of a king behaving unreasonably. London Blade Runners are what this country is badly in need of.

[@David-fj5lz]

The Davos lot knew the electric car was a danger so “THEY” decided not to use them but were ok with their surfs to drive in them unsafely 😅

[@jerribee1]

Serfs.

[@davidhancock91]

My Audi A6 cost $12 per 100km in diesel. To charge a Taycan at home cost $10 per 100km. Why would you do it to yourself?

[@davidc564]

I live in Los Angeles and all the ev chargers have the cables cut It is impossible to keep up with it .

[@1i2cVision]

Interestingly, with trains, a diesel train is usually always used with an electric train breaks down. A diesel vehicle was used to tow away a ULEZ van with two punctured tyres.

[@barriewilliams4526]

Our local hospital has a car park below the hospital itself, just imagine the car park being full of battery powered cars🤔I think the current installed automatic sprinkler would be fighting a losing battle...... Anyone who charges their battery powered car in their garage, or next to their house overnight, seriously wants their bumps feeling🙃

[@FullFact548]

How many electric car fires have there been in the UK over the last year? An approximate number will do.

[@treacherousenemiescomrades8040]

They should let the market decide if we want Ev cars - then again they know they’ll be fully rejected by the general public hence the insane ban - bunch of lunatics - I absolutely despise them all now - I’ll stick with my diesel Volvo - great video btw

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

As a Dane I have lately seen the wreck (pictures) of a burned out EV, I think a Tesla? And it wasn't much of a problem, as it hardly left anything to be disposed of, but a black spot on the ground, maybe to be restored for fire damage at a time? Really a clean vehicle in every way! And an electric fire can't be stopped, so the one "Danish Rescue Service (Falck)" has lately bought 4 iron boxes for EVs to be pushed into, while burning out, without being a hazard to the surroundings as long as it may last. I do hope of course, that I will never be on a ferry with a burning EV (They are not able to extinguish a fire in an EV, even by cutting of the supply of oxygen on one of the decks)? Luckily the one major Ferry Operator in Denmark are soon to be replaced with a tunnel for cars and trains for 18 km, below the water (Hopefully an EV won't start to burn during the passing of that?). Finn. Denmark 🤨

[@houseofbaboshka6456]

I have three mobility scooters all lithium, the stress of them going on fire more so when I am on the ferry to the mainland is extreme and scary. I am in the process of chaning over to acid. Also the materials mined being by children is a No No for me.

[@bigmull]

There was an EV fire near the Control Tower of a main Australian Airport,4 or 5 EVs cooked off.Regarding ULEZ,khan should start with taking diesel busses off the road and cleaning up the Underground!

[@FullFact548]

There was a petrol car fire in a car park in Liverpool. 1,400 cars and the multistorey car were destroyed.

[@Karadauk]

Re; your comment about FUD. It was IBM's marketing for selling computers based on Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt about other brands to push IBM products. With regards to Geoff's comments about estate cars I preferred MPV. I bought one of the first Renault Espace in the country. I ordered one at the end of 1985 and took delivery on a D Plate in 1986. I finally got rid of it 16 years later after covering 336,000 miles of comparatively trouble free motoring. Replaced it with a late Phase 3 model which was a bit of a nightmare because it was a mix with lots of Phase IV parts fitted instead of Phase III, so trying to get parts was very hit or miss. My last one was the 3.0 litre V6 Grand Espace. If I get the chance I would love to get a good low mileage one. I believe that Renault still make the Espace but only in lhd but there are 4 different models made in India, two under the Dacia name.

[@handofkindness]

Bring back the Sinclair C5 the go anywhere vehicle ideal for those in parliament & could be adapted to be propelled by a lot of hot air which would be ideal especially for parliamentary ministers.

[@oxfamshop]

When put the radio on it brought to mind the coach fire on only fools and horses. As I watch this it reminded of something rare two days I saw a G WIZZ . A rare sight these days

[@davidwatson22]

Here's something else that's pissed me off ,if I'm understanding this correctly manufacturers now have a quota of ice cars that they can sell and once they reach it people who want an ice have to wait until next year's quota which is being reduced each year forcing people to buy EVs . This also falsifies the EV sales numbers once compared to ice sales due to this artificial number caping

[@GT380man]

It sounds ott but it’s actually tyrannical.

[@teatimetel174]

second hand car will continue to rise in value

[@robvoyage2024]

At roughly 52 minutes in, there is a car registration which reads LEE 55F. Great vid and Geoff is great too.

[@stevenwatson3963]

2 great lads !!!Cheers both ! you, are speaking how i, and many others feel.

[@Wolfman57]

Lee,there was no point of having the A/C on in the BMW,with the sun roof open !!!

[@happyharry7331]

we have as usual followed the Americans. About 30 years ago had to go to USA for work and every time I had a meal in the hotel, I had to answer a series of questions about each ingredient in the meal starting with the bread, I was so glad when I got home to Blighty and you could order a meal and that was the end of the conversation. Now its twenty questions for every thing, Aaaaaargh!!!

[@peterlewis3540]

A BIG question mark over what started the Luton Airport fire, All 1640 cars in the airports multistory have been written off. Their being very cagey at what started the fire in the first place. Was it an EV catching fire ?

[@tomwalmsley1149]

peter, the video i saw of the car that allegedly started the inferno had flames coming out of the left front passenger side with none of the black smoke you get from burning diesel . it looked to me like a battery fire in a plug in hybrid

[@gregorybolin4672]

Hybrid and on that model that's where the battery was at

[@GT380man]

Until I bought a breathed-on Audi S3, my favourite ever car was a 1998 MkIV VW Golf GTi Turbo, black metallic, black leather Recaros, 6 CD multichanger, heated seats, traction control, freezer level air con, nice wheels. Just loved in, especially at night. Brilliant music, like Oasis at their pomp. I didn’t know it then, but it was the best few years of my life. The garage that serviced it said ten years later that these were the pinnacle of reliability. They virtually never broke. Very few onboard computers and sensors.

[@stephensmith1553]

I do agree with you I went from Kent to Wigan a few weeks ago and on the M6 in the middle of the night speed reduced to 60mph all the way from the junction of the M5 for better air quality but there was no traffic whatsoever it’s all about control not air

[@stephengraham5099]

I saw a blue Porsche Taycan yesterday in Addiscombe road near Croydon. I was on my cycle and caught up with it at a roundabout wondering if you were the driver, but I was disappointed. 😃

[@chrisaris8756]

Talk about depreciation. My Jaguar dealer has 7 iPace for sale. Typical example a one year old EV400 black cost new at least £71000 (not including any extras) for sale today at £48,995. That’s £20,005 depreciation in a year and don’t forget that’s their selling price I expect the seller got about £40k so that’s £30k in one year and 6000 miles. It’s ok though because no one wants secondhand EVs.

[@stevezephyr]

I love all your videos, in particular the EV ones. I have a Kona Electric, I'm not an EVangelist by any stretch of the imagination, but an EV suits me, I charge at home the majority of the time with the exception of a couple of trips a year from near Manchester to visit my sister in Kent. Why did you buy an EV, I don't think you have ever told us. Keep going with the fish and chip reviews, onward my friend 😂😂😂😂

[@hazrobson2305]

Electricity is made from coal and gas and Electric cars last 10 years. So how are they ecologically friendly?

[@ianbentley-rb7hs]

They're not, and while they have lithium batteries they will never be anything more than a fire hazard.

[@conspiracytheorist1092]

Lee can I ask a couple of questions regarding the Net Zero , 1, Do you know how photosynthesis works? 2, If photosynthesis can’t occur how else will oxygen be produced?

[@johnnunn8688]

Your name is a giveaway, weirdo.

[@johnnunn8688]

‘It doesn’t instill you with confidence’? It doesn’t surprise me, one bit.

[@richardgetlevog3123]

Wish i knew you were at the NEC mate as i live 2 minutes around the corner in Solihull. Would have popped the kettle on☕. Great vlog buddy and good to see Geoff again👍

[@amandareynolds6311]

We love watching your electric car videos totally agree with your opinions what an absolute nightmare it will be if this does happen NO to electric cars

[@JamesHodgson-s1h]

I live in Leeds in a village 20 mph. People like you said never stick to it. Parish won't put up speedcameras.

[@70chevs]

In Australia I have a friend who works for a moving company who specialises in moving people's belongings interstate and overseas and they won't touch evs.

[@stevecohen8206]

I thought the NEC Birmingham had its own train station! It must have a car park for other cars and cars that don’t need charging! Also, trying to encourage us to use public transport! Needed a bit more on the NEC. Great video, your mate has good delivery.

[@amandabarrymore778]

its all about control....always has been x

[@davem9208]

I live in Walsall, not far from the town center, on the 13th the floor of a block of flats, in a complex of five blocks of flats in it, with an est 350 flats in them, with 123 parking spaces over three estate car parks. Locally, I know of only two, yes TWO, public charging points for EV's, them being at a Morrisons supermarket. So were you to consider the number of cars potentially in the flats. plus other local people needing to charge, there would be a system collapse, and I believe it could possibly lead to public disorder. This Sunday, I will be travelling to Hull on a day trip. At the moment my car, a hybrid, has 244 miles available, but I will just pop two mins down the road to my local garage, spend about another two minutes and put £30 in the tank, and that will probably give me a full tank, from which I will get over 500 miles. I agree that this EV drive is a form of traffic and social control, again from which i can see more public disorder.

[@expletivesnotdeleted6362]

Lee i was on that section of the M1 three weeks ago where it slows you to 50mph..driving from Liverpool to Whitby and that section added another 40 minutes on the journey..i believe they are going to be dualling the A64 to Scarborough with sections of 40mph speeds..

[@paulcrawley390]

Hi Lee, I think the comedian you were thinking of was Jimmy Tarbuck. A funny thing I spotted on the M25 the other day was a Tesler on the back of a break wagon and this wagon was a Diesel.

[@TheMacMaster]

That's Him!

[@dennisking1555]

I do believe the price of fossil fuels is still so high because we are subsidising the failure of E Vs the price of oil is way down, it’s just bonkers

[@TheSilverAfro]

This recall is for the same car that locks you in when the 12 volt dies? Brave man

[@dancooper2072]

A fast hybrid would give you instant talk as the battery kicks in first. I have a hybrid and from a stop the battery moves the car off and power is instant. Hopefully the future is efuels and hybrid or hydrogen. It's the lithium that's the issue.

[@steamsearcher]

Torque.

[@chewitt3654]

Yes Cupra tried to sell me a Hybrid due to wait times, i opted to wait for the petrol

[@Ultravox1981]

I understand the pros and cons of EV, sadly there has never been any joined up thinking when it comes to what is actually required to be in place. Firstly, our roads have been left to fall into ruin. There are potholes all over the place. EVs are vulnerable...UNDERNEATH. So, maybe a heavy investment in keeping the roads useable would have been a good start. But, that doesn't bring money in. Politicians only want things that bring money in for themselves, friends and family, (in my opinion.) One of the benefits that EV drivers will tell you is how cheap per mile their journey is. But, I have always worked on the fact that you will keep a vehicle for a number of years, so divide the purchase price, running costs (service, tax, insurance etc) by say 10 years. That will give you the real costs per mile (plus add the 20K needed to replace the battery pack). I usually buy a car at about 3 years old. But would NEVER buy an EV. Why, because I want car that I can maintain and keep on the road for a reasonable rate each year, I don't want to be waiting for the 20K battery change to suddenly hit me. Our PM is fine, 5M a year would make me confident in splashing out on a new EV...but need a 7 seater...and that's another problem. Keep up the good work, great to see you link with Geoff as he is sound as a pound too.

[@3222606]

A question for all EV owners; would you consider sitting directly above a bundle of sticks of gelignite when you drove your vehicle along public roads? Well, if you don't already know that is the scenario beneath the floor of your lovely EV. Beneath the carpeting, thebseating of these EVs, there is a floor void. Bolted within this void or space is a vast quantity of individual battery cells neatly tucked away, which is referred to as the battery pack. Should the occasion arise that a short-circuit should occur within this battery pack - leading to full-blown fire - no fire brigade or firefighter can so much as put such a fire out. This by reason there is no way of externally gaining access to this battery pack, not without the entire vehicle being lifted off the deck, that is. Because of the tremendous heat generated by such a shorted-out battery pack (this being in the order of some two thousand plus degrees Celsius). First, to ignite will be the floor carpeting this then followed by the seating; all of which are positioned directly above the inferno below being generated by the battery pack. This is the main reason firefighters find themselves helpless to assist with this sort of vehicle fire, plus the fact water cannot be under any cirrmstances be used on any electrical fires. I trust the no individual should find themselves trapped in such a given situation, I shall hold on to my twenty year old car or nag untill it or I go first.

[@neilgodwin6531]

I suggest you consider what would happen if you threw a lit match into your fuel tank 😂 What a load of hysterical baloney! You know, too, that firefighters have to deal with electrical fires all the time? I've been trained which fire extinguisher to use on electrical fires. Every care home, every hospital, every workplace has CO², foam and water extinguishers. You talk as though no one had ever encountered a fire in electrical equipment before EVs 😂

[@helmuthschultes9243]

Sadly EV batteries can burn, not just as common electrical fires. The real problem of Lithium Ion battery fires is they can not be extinguished like pure Electrical fires. The battery burns feeding it own oxygen. Conventional fire extinguishing smothers fire by water, foam, dry powder depending on fire type, EV battery fires CAN NOT extinguish by those methods as they feed fire own released oxygen. Presently an EV fire must burn out on its own producing very hazardous fumes, as battery after battery of the hundreds in a pack light up under heat of other burning cells. A EV can burn for over a day, with fire fighters at best keeping surroundings from catching fire. Many EV vehicles have destroyed road surfaces, other near cars, buildings. Another problem is EV cars lightup fires just standing not even while driven. Most ICE car fires are during driving and in accident circumstances, and able to be extinguished by existing fire services, and diesels DO NOT EXPLODE OUTWARDS like petrol.

[@Paul-li9hq]

I love the comment about how turning on the AC destroys the range... It really is ridiculous how they kit these Exploding Vehicles out with all these toys that you basically dare not use if you want to get to where you are going 😂😂😂

[@ArneSaeboe]

In Norway we have 330 toll stations on the roads.... road tax stations...

[@David-fj5lz]

Best thought. imagine if she bought an electric car now, just literal dead money which will soon be uninsurable

[@David-tt2mt]

Good one Lee and Geoff. The fact that battery cars are being pushed so hard on the motoring public can not be ignored. Ultimately (imho) it's about control over freedom of movement and financial control (u vill own nussing unt be heppy).

[@AllenBarclayAllen]

Unpushable uninsured uninsureable electric car. ! With Atonimous cars no human responsible for the lawsuit , lawsuits will stack from the tort lawyers desk to the moon ! Uninshuralbe PIPE DREAM . ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS BULLSHIT !

[@musicbruv]

The reason they bring out new phones every year is because some people need to have the latest device. they will sing its praises until next year when they will then say it is getting a bit slow so I need to replace it.

[@TheMacMaster]

Still kept my 14 Pro and 14 Pro Max to film with, just needed a new phone for calls as gave my Mini to my Daughter. All the same now.

[@martyn52]

Totally agree about them trying to restrict what we are able to do. Keep up the great videos.

[@terry13712]

Just a point Lee. You say that if you charge your EV up at home it’s much cheaper. However what your not considering is on the mileage that you must do that £12 a full charge is likely to be per day so that’s £60 a week. I’d put money on any petrol/diesel car would still be going the following week so it isn’t cheaper to run an EV.

[@theoneandyt]

Terry it's £s per mile though... So think of it as £12 gets you approximately 300 miles (just going from what was quoted). It doesn't really matter how far you drive. You won't get that with petrol/diesel.

[@tonyhodgkinson4586]

Agree about the VW UP, Skoda made a version of the Citigo ev but only made it for a short time and no longer make it, I think it was 21k at the time.

[@geoffwilson1784]

Yes it`s all about control for no good reason.

[@harryturnbull1884]

Think I've mentioned a friend is a Porsche mechanic and they still only have around THREE trained battery specialists in the entire country.

[@martinedingivan]

There was a lot more pollution back in the day with mills and nuclear power plants and other things it never was a major issue then so how can cars be the only pollutant

[@compostcorner5934]

Really enjoyed this video . Great bit of banter and humour with 2 like minded blokes 👍 Iv been a petrol head since i passed my test in 1978 .iv owned probably in excess of 100 cars over the years as i also like Geoff bought and sold cars back in the 80,s mostly. Iv owned most makes of cars including ford , vauxhall bmw audi triumph ,and even a daf lol .. I currently own a 26 year old vauxhall Calibra which are becoming extremely rare now ,and my trusted daily driver astra g van. Subscribed 😁👍 Ps ..I also am a terrible passenger .I hate not being in control especially when the driver is a bit keen on the loud pedal lol

[@steve3150]

No one is forcing you to buy them. If nobody bought an EV then they would have to stop the madness.

[@bendeleted9155]

I remember in the US when you saw people driving propane-powered vehicles for various reasons but none of them advocated to force others to drive them.

[@dellingson4833]

UPS ran the brown truck fleet for a long time. They worked great so they quit doing it.

[@bendeleted9155]

@@dellingson4833 🤣

[@Mariazellerbahn]

If the planet is warming up, that is a good thing. We won't have to put the heating on in winter, therefore cutting back on fossil fuels. Win - win.

[@kevinlloyd1088]

Lee Have you heard of the UK company that sell EV fire blankets to first responders? The material CONTAINS the flames and reduce needed water to put out the problem.

[@paulhillman400]

Another money making scam, initiated by flaky government rules.

[@johnsteel3217]

You are brilliant mate, Milk-Float 😂 keep saying it because it reminds everyone that having an EV is utterly pointless,