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@eazypeezy45052 жыл бұрын
Should be a series Top 10 Keepouts Top 10 CH tools Top 10 Homing Top 10 Throws
@Moth5902 жыл бұрын
CH tool list would be listing Miguel, Steve and Leroy’s moveset XD
@lololoji18442 жыл бұрын
Top 10 power crash Top 10 mid, low, high Top 10 rage art Top 10 rage drive Top 10 stance
@waserdert62592 жыл бұрын
@@Moth590 nah keep out and ch would be full of Bryan
@TheDocbach Жыл бұрын
@@lololoji1844 Top 10 power crush? LOL. Hwoarang would just take up half that list.
@MrJohn8apie Жыл бұрын
Top 10 throws and half the list is king/ak
@JubbaJ2 жыл бұрын
would like to see his reaction to the top 100 op moves, even if it would be over 2 hrs long, i would watch the whole thing still, such a well made video and one of the best tekken vids ever made
@theden-o17282 жыл бұрын
same idea
@user-do1gm9qg7n2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r324n52ghpKCmac - though, it doesn't have him there
@MrMisfortune2 жыл бұрын
Main man will probably throw a fit at 2D Jumps being as high as it is tho, especially with the reasoning given for it (even if that reasoning is justifiable)
@maxmercurythemm8272 жыл бұрын
would watch anyway
@happ0bapp02 жыл бұрын
i did love that video lol
@kwgtfg2 жыл бұрын
19:40 the best part about this is every time he fails to land to the combo, the stab in the music hits again, lmao
@yurilopes420 Жыл бұрын
fuck that's crazy kinda sounds like the metal gear solid "!" noise like the song telling you "YA MISSED"
@zeeloterij81642 жыл бұрын
Heihachi ff2 is nutty the way it launches on wake up or just flips them
@JunKazamaFan2 жыл бұрын
It also tracks a good bit, hits grounded, and has pushback. Definitely an overtuned move.
@rifqiwibisono39912 жыл бұрын
It is also -16 on block with a lot of pushback while most chars long range punishment move is 17 frames.
@itachi11652 жыл бұрын
Yea kinda broke and ppl do combos to off it lmao i play gigas happens a lot
@inujosha Жыл бұрын
I remember playing Tekken 2 and Paul's burning fist was a 1 hit K.O.
@JPROP-vb7sv2 жыл бұрын
What about Pauls shoulder that teleports through EVERY move in the game.
@JFSRtegrity2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jaycha49832 жыл бұрын
Not anymore. No deathfist follow up and it’s minus -14 right in front of you.
@JPROP-vb7sv2 жыл бұрын
@@jaycha4983 It still evades everything. Hard to punish when Paul is behind you.
@ergodeus2 жыл бұрын
And he has qfc1 that also defies all logic and is SUPER safe and a normal launcher. Paul's evasion is just there to trigger everyone.
@jaycha49832 жыл бұрын
@@JPROP-vb7sv They changed it, he’s hardly behind you on block. That’s cap. Occasionally it happens sure, but very rare. Stop mashing.
@AIRFGC2 жыл бұрын
loved this video MainMan, would love to see you breakdown good moves from other games to highlight how metas have shifted
@VarbuKoopix2 жыл бұрын
finally! talking about moves and/or characters or their tier listing and having game in the background to show them exactly, good shit TMM
Claudio's B1 was even more broken in Vanilla...it launched on CH lol.
@gokublacktekken61662 жыл бұрын
I would also include Xiaoyu's db2. You block the move, try to punish it and she can parry, except for elbows.
@Guitar-Dog2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a top 5 move and was patched in. Why patch in a jack FCdb1
@cocopuf972 жыл бұрын
What move is that
@JunKazamaFan2 жыл бұрын
Feather Fan, the low hand swipe that puts her in BT.
@raidennc2 жыл бұрын
It's good. But not broken. There is enough counterplay for it (low parry, lowcrush, swr), combined with its low damage (its not very threatening outside of rage. Nothing to stop you from just eating 100 of them and backdashing) that it doesn't reach "broken status" (I would argue that it isn't even close, tbh). It's really good. But people use the word "broken" too loosely these days. Broken means very little to no counterplay, to the point where it "breaks the game". And that is no where close to being true. It just can't be block punished by conventional block punishes by most of the cast. But each of the options I mentioned are FAR more rewarding anyway (again, assuming you even choose to respond. It really isn't all that threatening outside of rage tbh. Just annoying).
@jasonkennedy68442 жыл бұрын
@@raidennc It is too good, broken or not. Tracks, has great range, ch effect, goes into mix-up stance with +5 oH, basically safe on oB and it high crushes lol. It's a bad joke of a move. For a character like Ling that is so "complex" this type of move is very fun to see. Just because it's a low and you can parry it, it doesn't mean it's not just stupidly overtuned.
@TheDocbach Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention: Josie`s uf3. It crushes lows, mids, highs, and it leads to a combo on counter hit. And it can be used as an oki tool for people who like to get up kick. Oh.. and its an obvious panic move that is still safe on block.
@corydawson59802 жыл бұрын
Loved hearing the Aganos theme in the background good vid Tekken has changed so much since I was a kid .
@GORO9112 жыл бұрын
That's the comment i was searching for. that theme in the beginning is superb. 😃👌
@aakashmondal7892 жыл бұрын
I feel Leroy's B2 parry should have been added.That shit is ridiculous. Simple input,catches every high/mid attack,weapons..recovers seemingly quick
@user-hs9vf2kb2s6 ай бұрын
MAAAN who you telling. Leroy got Scrubs believing their THAT GOOD.. He parries Fengs Shoulder 🤦🏿♂️
@christoffelsymbol16316 ай бұрын
what exactly makes you think that leroy's b+2 is better than jin's b+1+3 i'm not trying to make a point i'm just curious 16 people liked your comment so at least one should know
@aakashmondal7896 ай бұрын
brother i never even mentioned Jin. And Jin's parry is even more cracked@@christoffelsymbol1631
@user-yr4tk9vs7z5 ай бұрын
@@christoffelsymbol1631Jin's parry needs timing and it's not conpletely safe because you have to punish it few frames after parry animation. So if Jin misinputs parry on smthng like ff3 he will get launched. However Leroy could hold his parry there is no need for timing.
@christoffelsymbol16315 ай бұрын
@@user-yr4tk9vs7z I still don't get it. Yes, Leroy's parry has a longer parry window but Jin has an autoguard so he'll never get hit when he mistimes his parry. Leroy seems to have a longer whiff recovery, but I can't find exact numbers anywhere.
@BullC62 жыл бұрын
I always say that Kazuya's electric is the most broken in the game to my friends. But yes, didn't see TMM admitting it. Kudos for not being biased TMM.
@martalallama73892 жыл бұрын
finally!!! i´ve been waiting for this video for so long
@LeiChaobruh2 жыл бұрын
TMM didn't even mention that Claudio's b1 has high evasion as well 😂
@shawnjenkins59082 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Claudio’s hop kick 😂🤣😂🤦🏾♂️
@thiagox04992 жыл бұрын
What Claudio's move dont high crush?
@jpVari2 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos even tho I've never played tekken (besides maybe an hour total in practice mode)... I always hear something that makes me laugh about tekken complexities. 'you can't parry it because it's an elbow' killed me for some reason. Of course! It's an elbow!
@ShadyBase2 жыл бұрын
And yet 2 players can parry a elbow
@sageofsparda37642 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly shocked that Noctis's ub1 wasn't on the list, or at least right beside Steve's b1. They're pretty identical moves in the fact that they're both safe, high, counterhit launchers, and Noctis's version of the move recovers faster than Steve's, meaning you can usually spam it a second time catching your opponent if they block the first one, however Steve's version of the move allows him to go into flicker pressure. So both moves are very similar, but have different things over one another as well.
@hubbles11710 ай бұрын
I think it's because there's no stance transition if I remember correctly but I may be wrong, also transitioning into flicker is far scarier than just being safe because of the power crush for 40ish damage in flicker, also minus one so that power crush is uninteruptable and can be mixed up with flicker jabs and mids.
@WeisenbergTKMrWhite2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Video , i absolutely agree on that number 1 spot
@maku38572 жыл бұрын
I love theses kind of videos. Thank you
@SaltedMallows2 жыл бұрын
20:10 The definition of an "Option Select"
@nivyan2 жыл бұрын
Was about to comment the same. That's literally what an option select is. He later calls sidestepping in one direction to avoid follow-ups an option select. Like wut?
@bizzaremonkey7562 жыл бұрын
@@nivyan yea thats still an OS tho. If you have one option that avoids all followups (sidestep), OS brah.
@nivyan2 жыл бұрын
@@bizzaremonkey756 No. Option Select means making some inputs that can lead to different things depending on what the opponent does.
@bizzaremonkey7562 жыл бұрын
@@nivyan i mean yea sure but people use OS pretty liberally now. as long as theres one action you can take to avoid multiple followups people just call that an OS.
@nivyan2 жыл бұрын
@@bizzaremonkey756 Just because a lot of people misuse a word, doesn't mean the wrong way of using it is suddenly correct.
@halcyon__r32892 жыл бұрын
I love how at 21:39 the music drop in sync with the reveal
@Wyrmixx2 жыл бұрын
Wait, is TMM's bg music from the stream or is it added post-edit? Because the timing on the #1 move reveal is epic
@sebastienhahn_tk51712 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention : Lei's Tiger stance.True 50/50
@J0ulez52 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that akumas +7 low didn't appear, but the rest i more or less expected
@anjrooo1 Жыл бұрын
Mardook tackle is most op based on the tilting property alone
@meal-meelad86622 жыл бұрын
you could say bryans taunt as well, i28 slow but cancel anytime unblockable launcher (on paper)
@Lahmeinthehouse2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel !!
@leopart76002 жыл бұрын
could've mention king's df2 it's basically a df1 but it's a counter hit launcher with huge damages against male characters
@JunKazamaFan2 жыл бұрын
Kunimitsu's qcf+1 would be on my list. You constantly have to play around the fact that she can hit you from anywhere on the map without warning.
@rb49162 жыл бұрын
you can step it both directions
@Xbox.43882 жыл бұрын
Not true but ok
@JunKazamaFan2 жыл бұрын
@@rb4916 Yes, it's steppable and -11 up close, but it's still a frustrating move in that it's always a threat and you always have to remember she can throw it out.
@RJALEXANDER7772 жыл бұрын
@@JunKazamaFan Wait that's steppable? News to me lol. I'm guessing you have to be frame perfect or near enough to it.
@christianhu83482 жыл бұрын
I litteraly spend a whole round trying to step this move since the oponent only spammed thi and the low version. didn't step once.
@shisokuseku86342 жыл бұрын
While i completely agree that Yoshi-Flash is arguably top 1-3 move (if used by an AI for example), it's also arguably harder to use than Electric. And like you said, especially if the opponent baits it out. Sometimes it wont connect cuz the opponent is slightly off to the right or left, you need to be pretty much inside the enemys feet's hitbox. Dashing in into flash sometimes works, and sometimes it doesnt even under the same conditions, cuz the enemies idle animation changed. theres so much to keep in mind and to study but if you know ALL the factors its top 1, if you know like 70% of the factors, its definitely top 10. At least i think so. :D EDIT: i even kinda prefer NSS-Flash, since its way more consistant and predictable for the yoshi player. I dont know, it just feels a LOT better. Love punishing certain moves with SS-Flash tho. They are always guaranteed and lock the opponent completely out of using them often times.
@asimsaleem38682 жыл бұрын
I think Steve Guard Break is one of the best move in the competitive tekken as world best Players even can’t cope with it
@Guitar-Dog2 жыл бұрын
20:40 the down 2 does allow 2Hado FADC d2 hado b1 But with good execution you can do another 2 or d3 if you hit 15 frames or at +10 you get 1dp1 or 1EXtatsu. His death combos don't come from d2 they come from FA 2hado, as you keep showing. Just weird to say Akuma can death combo becuase d2
@Guitar-Dog2 жыл бұрын
Like you even say his d2 is busted with the execution but if your doing FADC combos your using standing 2 with great execution
@pinoy_boy61122 жыл бұрын
Jago's Theme excellent choice
@truffelsnuffler2 жыл бұрын
2:45 - “All you can do when he starts his tornado of shit” 😂😂😂
@coooolibri2 жыл бұрын
marduk rage drive is so OP, especially his dmg is very high, and if you just get one launch beforehand into that rage drive, enemy cant even do anything at all... :D
@chinchi74552 жыл бұрын
50/50s at its finest
@erykaldo2l2702 жыл бұрын
Marduk is an epitome of a braindead 50/50 character.
@luisbenavides36102 жыл бұрын
All you can do is guess 👍🏼
@CaseOfBears2 жыл бұрын
I would say this is top 10: i15 high crush low. Launches on normal hit for 2/3 of your life. Plus on block.
@Mystic_Eddie2 жыл бұрын
Leo's season 1 orbital was pretty nuts
@lostboy26372 жыл бұрын
20:00 this is a hit confirm on SFV
@abdulmoied46492 жыл бұрын
this was the video i wanted
@martalallama73892 жыл бұрын
Could noctis ff 1+2 be considered top 10? I mean it's a counter hit luncher, mid, homing, long reach and safe on block.
@1990rable2 жыл бұрын
is it cool to get started with tekken 7 now? does it make any sense to learn it?
@thejoekage94992 жыл бұрын
Bryan has a ws3 which is a 12 fr CH Mid launcher but - 12 on block
@gregoryromano22282 жыл бұрын
Ty man
@ahmadezat73992 жыл бұрын
Julia's ff1 high crushes too 👀 just saying cuz she high crushed my jabs many times
@sweatington84232 жыл бұрын
Do a top 10 item moves next xD
@resurrectionx9522 жыл бұрын
What's the music when he was explaining about Claudio's b1??? It sounds sooooooo sick help please 🥺
@legendarynoob46892 жыл бұрын
whats the song name after 22:20 in the backlground?
@erykaldo2l2702 жыл бұрын
Im surprised Feng's B1 didnt make the list.
@adamusso_tk2 жыл бұрын
Claudio B1 is perfect move, yes
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's harder to think of a character that doesn't have a move that people don't consider "broken". People struggle to realize that a character having a busted move doesn't automatically make them good. See Yoshimitsu's flash and Lucky Chloe's *fucking everything*.
@Guitar-Dog2 жыл бұрын
Yoshi has a couple broken moves but everything else sucks on block. I play him, my mentions are NSS 1,2 (2,1?) The 10f knockdown, it's a great 10f punish and NSS FCdf3 the superfast snake edge that Kuni has aswell
@jasonkennedy68442 жыл бұрын
Shaheen?
@MrDxfusion2 жыл бұрын
@@Guitar-Dog His normal 1 1 is amazing as well. Sidestep 1 is a fantastic move, FC DF 4 is one of the best full crouch moves in the game CH Launch and one of the few FC moves you can do practically instantly. His CD 2 is a really good move as well but not top tier. Finally let's not forget his spin away, this one move if used properly can make yoshi practically untouchable, also get's him out of a lot of guaranteed punishes (Lee's punch parry for example) NSS Flash, man this makes his flash even stronger stg. Rage art flash hahahaha. It makes sense his shit sucks on block, he's a mixup character, but most people ain't gonna punish his shit correctly unless the yoshi is quite dreadful in their mixups. Yoshi has a lot of bullshit people just ignore because no one has the time to go through his entire move list looking at all the nuance and situational moves.
@mr_0n10n52 жыл бұрын
What will be broken with Lars? SE 2??
@parry34392 жыл бұрын
@@mr_0n10n5 the stupid 3 hit string that knocks down and wall splats on normal hit lol
@kingmazzieri70432 жыл бұрын
IIRC King B1 is also a 12f CH launcher
@happ0bapp02 жыл бұрын
18:18 this combos….. this combos in…… this combos into uhhh
@goriaguilohernandez55732 жыл бұрын
Surprised not even Taunt, b4 (at the wall) or jet upper was mentioned.
@Adam71802 жыл бұрын
Taunt isn't there because due to consistency issues, range issues, and how slow it is, sure it gives +16 but it is incredibly tight and makes it very inconsistent.
@thmistrapillay18112 жыл бұрын
Did not expect electric to be No.1
@rsjinopgaming49682 жыл бұрын
Love you bro
@SWORDU8 ай бұрын
Yoshi’s flash also comes out faster and has an extended hit box from NSS
@VermillionThaKid2 жыл бұрын
Jin is perfect because he can parry that Julia elbow😍💯
@BigSleepy9852 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding me about Polemos’ theme. This song is IMPOSING and MASSIVE
@Bozzy765 Жыл бұрын
So stupid how Leroy has a safe 12f mid CH launcher while Kazuya has a 14f mid CH launcher but it is not safe
@anmarsondemir1214 ай бұрын
does anyone know the song that plays at 22:52 ? I can't find it anywhere and it sounds sooo goood
@TwoFoldArmageddon2 ай бұрын
Mick Gordon (feat. Omega Sparx) - I'm Back (to Rise)
@anmarsondemir1212 ай бұрын
@@TwoFoldArmageddon I hope that you win the lottery :D
@pretzel_aksmash3532 жыл бұрын
Idk for Lee I think it's pretty close between magic 4, b4 and ff4. Basically the 4 button is op for Lee lmao
@thmistrapillay18112 жыл бұрын
I'd say b4 cuz it can go into hitman with some evasive properties
@pretzel_aksmash3532 жыл бұрын
@Thmistra Pillay doesn't really give it evasive properties, makes it safer on block. It's actually better to not go into hitman on whiff, allows you to block earlier
@pretzel_aksmash3532 жыл бұрын
@@thmistrapillay1811 also if you delay the stance input it adds some tracking to the move, not a ton though
@thmistrapillay18112 жыл бұрын
@@pretzel_aksmash353 it does add an evasive property to the move because he takes a step back and lowers his hit box a bit when going into hitman. I often go into hitman to bait a whiff punish from my opponent
@thmistrapillay18112 жыл бұрын
@@pretzel_aksmash353 that's cool
@emre46192 жыл бұрын
Devil Kazuya f4 should be on the list. Personally its the best move in the game
@thmistrapillay18112 жыл бұрын
And Devil Kazuya electric
@imtakutho2 жыл бұрын
I've never liked mortal kombat as much because the take a guess factor. To see that in tekken from DLC it's not surprising
@BrokenNoah2 жыл бұрын
38:21 The nss version have more reach. It's not by much and you still have to be quite close though and whiffing would still prove painful especially against attentive players or if you were baited.
@shiekastate2 жыл бұрын
That version is 8 frame startup iirc.
@BrokenNoah2 жыл бұрын
@@shiekastate Yep. Longer range, slower startup. The sword version is 6 frames if I'm remembering correctly.
@remington_acr16512 жыл бұрын
Jin’s parry is number one no doubt imo. Parry is everything
@GodKingIssei2 жыл бұрын
Bryan also has insane parry
@Wsh4a2 жыл бұрын
When u changed into jin The first thing that came to my mind was the F4
@pyscho862 жыл бұрын
good video
@Sykboogie2 жыл бұрын
Yoshi's flash is super vulnerable to orbitals.
@georgecastanza67122 жыл бұрын
Marduks tackle Is unscaled cause the tackle mount can be broken
@andrewmarchitto84612 жыл бұрын
Fully expected Lars SE 3+4 to be an honorable mention. That move is broken for combos.
@RandomGameClips272 жыл бұрын
Song name @22:10 ?
@absurdhero63172 жыл бұрын
As a brother of a yoshi player I can vouch how mind fucking the flash is. The flash instills a fear that gives even a devil nightmares
@Tenz2202 жыл бұрын
When I play against my noob friends it's devil jins lazer all day and number 2 is 3-4 spams with Eddy
@mizukumecasko12162 жыл бұрын
Isnt julias elbow a staple in old tekken games Its called party crasher for a reason
@happ0bapp02 жыл бұрын
i’ve never played any other fighting game so akumas cancels are such strange sequences to input
@mrastronomical672 жыл бұрын
Lidia's hell sweep combo and Ground punch ..
@tomio92 жыл бұрын
As a guv main, hitting the opponent with b1 aways makes me smile, because I know how broken it is lmfao.
@tomio92 жыл бұрын
@clxxd999 You are absolutely right, but it doesn't make the move any less broken imo.
@bluelion73422 жыл бұрын
This should be a 2 parter. To p 10 broken moves offline and online.
@thmistrapillay18112 жыл бұрын
Online top 1 would probably be Yoshi fc df1, I know cuz I always use it😆
@aziznoman22 жыл бұрын
what music plays at 6:40?
@DamageXcaling2 жыл бұрын
"Just block" Michael Murray
@prosketch952 жыл бұрын
Steve b+1 is in a tier of its own
@yutubemerda2 жыл бұрын
He pays a really high price for that move
@prosketch952 жыл бұрын
@@yutubemerda no risk, high reward
@chillskid2 жыл бұрын
You're right, because it requires a lot of skill, timing etc to place correctly. A lot of these other moves on the list are braindead broken.
@fr0wz2 жыл бұрын
2:43: "(..) when he starts his tornado of shit (..) loll
@SOBGamimg2 жыл бұрын
I think Marduk forward forward 1+2 best throw in game.
@happ0bapp02 жыл бұрын
i should as least get a 10f punish on leroy’s b1+2
@ismael8926 Жыл бұрын
If i dont see Steve b1 im going to be pissed
@popgulp19372 жыл бұрын
what are the bgms?
@pivorsc2 жыл бұрын
What playlist do you use? I swear hashinshin from LoL uses exact same songs.
@manligi97012 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much the Killer instinct OST
@songoku60672 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt call claudios b1 broken its just a really good move but nothing that makes the character stand out
@meepboy4999 Жыл бұрын
B1,best hopkick in the game,evasive,dumb lows come on bro top tier
@fightinggamelad90842 жыл бұрын
I thought I would see Bryans taunt on here aha but its alg😅
@chillskid2 жыл бұрын
What's the Geese move where he launches you from a parry. That shit is stupid broken, needs to be on this list. It's more annoying than Yoshi's flash.
@LeiChaobruh2 жыл бұрын
I would add to honorable mentions: feng punch parry, hwoarang d34, ganryu df2, josie b2, king df2, jin parry, heihachi rage drive, alisa chainsaws, marduk qcf2 and lings lows like db2, 3 and 4. Good list though 👍
@MT.SYNTHAL2 жыл бұрын
which feng parry? he has 3
@LeiChaobruh2 жыл бұрын
@@MT.SYNTHAL 1+2
@ergodeus2 жыл бұрын
Josie b2? Her F1+2 is prob her best move. 14f safe "launcher"(full combo only with rage but still good damage) with huge range. What makes her b2 notable? She has a pretty good magic 4, does the same thing, faster and is more damaging.
@LeiChaobruh2 жыл бұрын
@@ergodeus well magic 4 gives up your turn, b2 is +1 on block and great on whiff. Combine that with the evasive df2 and orbital and it's crazy good. But yes f1+2 is great. Also it can launch without rage against bigger characters right?
@ergodeus2 жыл бұрын
@@LeiChaobruh I actually didn't know it was +1 ngl... The range is trash but still that makes me rethink the move, I'll have to try it in game.
@TheARTY502 жыл бұрын
jea like jozies df2 except more range and better recovery...i think?
@Red_Tiger09252 жыл бұрын
I better see jin in this video
@WhiteWlf-dy8fb2 жыл бұрын
No mention of King's ff1. I'm actually a little disappointed. But you did mention giant swing and Kuni's b2 so I'll let it slide
@abyssbf11392 жыл бұрын
Aganos KI theme 👍🏾 👍🏾👍🏾
@bradwashington4202 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@luisbenavides36102 жыл бұрын
Jin f4 definitely one of the best
@datfacepriceless34422 жыл бұрын
May I get song names for this whole video?
@bestscenes47592 жыл бұрын
For marduck, cant you just do an orbital to avoid the 50/50?
@FuryLima2 жыл бұрын
You avoid the low by doing so, if he presses 2 he's hitting you, at least if you're full life you can take that, but I bet that Marduk got easier time to get a good life lead or a comeback just by using his OP bs before his ragedrive to finish the round super easy