The Top 10 Broken Moves in Tekken 7 - Fully Explained

[@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD]

Timestamps: #10. Fahkumram's df1 + strings 1:15 #9. Claudio's b1 3:47 #8. Leroy's b1+2 5:15 #7. Jin's f4 + zen cancels 6:53 #6. Steve's b1 + flicker cancel 10:00 #5. Marduk's Rage Drive 11:30 #4 Julia's ff1 14:15 #3 Paul's df2 16:13 #2 Akuma's d2 (including FADC) 18:02 #1 Kazuya's EWGF 21:36 Honorable Mentions: Kunimitsu's b2 (thank you Yaniser) 25:14 Hwoarang's RFF 3~4 (thank you N4VII) 26:25 King/Armor King Giant Swing 29:03 Lidia's Political Storm 30:45 Lee's b4 34:10 Devil Jins' Hell Sweep 35:25 Yoshimitsu's Flash 36:39

[@JunKazamaFan]

Thank you very much!

[@DHRP614]

Well where's the update? This isn't all of them

[@SShaBazzz]

Aye, you gonna update the rest of this here list?

[@fenggula7890]

you're the best

[@DHRP614]

@@fenggula7890 How? They didn't finish

[@eazypeezy4505]

Should be a series Top 10 Keepouts Top 10 CH tools Top 10 Homing Top 10 Throws

[@Moth590]

CH tool list would be listing Miguel, Steve and Leroy’s moveset XD

[@lololoji1844]

Top 10 power crash Top 10 mid, low, high Top 10 rage art Top 10 rage drive Top 10 stance

[@waserdert6259]

@@Moth590 nah keep out and ch would be full of Bryan

[@TheDocbach]

@@lololoji1844 Top 10 power crush? LOL. Hwoarang would just take up half that list.

[@MrJohn8apie]

Top 10 throws and half the list is king/ak

[@JubbaJ]

would like to see his reaction to the top 100 op moves, even if it would be over 2 hrs long, i would watch the whole thing still, such a well made video and one of the best tekken vids ever made

[@theden-o1728]

same idea

[@ДаниярЖахан-д6и]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r324n52ghpKCmac - though, it doesn't have him there

[@MrMisfortune]

Main man will probably throw a fit at 2D Jumps being as high as it is tho, especially with the reasoning given for it (even if that reasoning is justifiable)

[@maxmercurythemm827]

would watch anyway

[@happ0bapp0]

i did love that video lol

[@JPROP-vb7sv]

What about Pauls shoulder that teleports through EVERY move in the game.

[@JFSRtegrity]

😂😂😂

[@jaycha4983]

Not anymore. No deathfist follow up and it’s minus -14 right in front of you.

[@JPROP-vb7sv]

@@jaycha4983 It still evades everything. Hard to punish when Paul is behind you.

[@ergodeus]

And he has qfc1 that also defies all logic and is SUPER safe and a normal launcher. Paul's evasion is just there to trigger everyone.

[@jaycha4983]

@@JPROP-vb7sv They changed it, he’s hardly behind you on block. That’s cap. Occasionally it happens sure, but very rare. Stop mashing.

[@kwgtfg]

19:40 the best part about this is every time he fails to land to the combo, the stab in the music hits again, lmao

[@yurilopes420]

fuck that's crazy kinda sounds like the metal gear solid "!" noise like the song telling you "YA MISSED"

[@inujosha]

I remember playing Tekken 2 and Paul's burning fist was a 1 hit K.O.

[@Yellow-IV]

Heihachi ff2 is nutty the way it launches on wake up or just flips them

[@JunKazamaFan]

It also tracks a good bit, hits grounded, and has pushback. Definitely an overtuned move.

[@rifqiwibisono3991]

It is also -16 on block with a lot of pushback while most chars long range punishment move is 17 frames.

[@itachi1165]

Yea kinda broke and ppl do combos to off it lmao i play gigas happens a lot

[@gokublacktekken6166]

I would also include Xiaoyu's db2. You block the move, try to punish it and she can parry, except for elbows.

[@Guitar-Dog]

Yeah it's a top 5 move and was patched in. Why patch in a jack FCdb1

[@cocopuf97]

What move is that

[@JunKazamaFan]

Feather Fan, the low hand swipe that puts her in BT.

[@raidennc]

It's good. But not broken. There is enough counterplay for it (low parry, lowcrush, swr), combined with its low damage (its not very threatening outside of rage. Nothing to stop you from just eating 100 of them and backdashing) that it doesn't reach "broken status" (I would argue that it isn't even close, tbh). It's really good. But people use the word "broken" too loosely these days. Broken means very little to no counterplay, to the point where it "breaks the game". And that is no where close to being true. It just can't be block punished by conventional block punishes by most of the cast. But each of the options I mentioned are FAR more rewarding anyway (again, assuming you even choose to respond. It really isn't all that threatening outside of rage tbh. Just annoying).

[@jasonkennedy6844]

@@raidennc It is too good, broken or not. Tracks, has great range, ch effect, goes into mix-up stance with +5 oH, basically safe on oB and it high crushes lol. It's a bad joke of a move. For a character like Ling that is so "complex" this type of move is very fun to see. Just because it's a low and you can parry it, it doesn't mean it's not just stupidly overtuned.

[@TheDocbach]

Honorable mention: Josie`s uf3. It crushes lows, mids, highs, and it leads to a combo on counter hit. And it can be used as an oki tool for people who like to get up kick. Oh.. and its an obvious panic move that is still safe on block.

[@HoDoBoDo]

Claudio's B1 was even more broken in Vanilla...it launched on CH lol.

[@aakashmondal789]

I feel Leroy's B2 parry should have been added.That shit is ridiculous. Simple input,catches every high/mid attack,weapons..recovers seemingly quick

[@BryantJackson-t7b]

MAAAN who you telling. Leroy got Scrubs believing their THAT GOOD.. He parries Fengs Shoulder 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@christoffelsymbol1631]

what exactly makes you think that leroy's b+2 is better than jin's b+1+3 i'm not trying to make a point i'm just curious 16 people liked your comment so at least one should know

[@aakashmondal789]

brother i never even mentioned Jin. And Jin's parry is even more cracked​@@christoffelsymbol1631

[@RustemKonan]

​@@christoffelsymbol1631Jin's parry needs timing and it's not conpletely safe because you have to punish it few frames after parry animation. So if Jin misinputs parry on smthng like ff3 he will get launched. However Leroy could hold his parry there is no need for timing.

[@christoffelsymbol1631]

@@RustemKonan I still don't get it. Yes, Leroy's parry has a longer parry window but Jin has an autoguard so he'll never get hit when he mistimes his parry. Leroy seems to have a longer whiff recovery, but I can't find exact numbers anywhere.

[@BullC6]

I always say that Kazuya's electric is the most broken in the game to my friends. But yes, didn't see TMM admitting it. Kudos for not being biased TMM.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Kunimitsu's qcf+1 would be on my list. You constantly have to play around the fact that she can hit you from anywhere on the map without warning.

[@rb4916]

you can step it both directions

[@Xbox.4388]

Not true but ok

[@JunKazamaFan]

@@rb4916 Yes, it's steppable and -11 up close, but it's still a frustrating move in that it's always a threat and you always have to remember she can throw it out.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

@@JunKazamaFan Wait that's steppable? News to me lol. I'm guessing you have to be frame perfect or near enough to it.

[@christianhu8348]

I litteraly spend a whole round trying to step this move since the oponent only spammed thi and the low version. didn't step once.

[@Guitar-Dog]

20:40 the down 2 does allow 2Hado FADC d2 hado b1 But with good execution you can do another 2 or d3 if you hit 15 frames or at +10 you get 1dp1 or 1EXtatsu. His death combos don't come from d2 they come from FA 2hado, as you keep showing. Just weird to say Akuma can death combo becuase d2

[@Guitar-Dog]

Like you even say his d2 is busted with the execution but if your doing FADC combos your using standing 2 with great execution

[@corydawson5980]

Loved hearing the Aganos theme in the background good vid Tekken has changed so much since I was a kid .

[@GORO911]

That's the comment i was searching for. that theme in the beginning is superb. 😃👌

[@SaltedMallows]

20:10 The definition of an "Option Select"

[@nivyan]

Was about to comment the same. That's literally what an option select is. He later calls sidestepping in one direction to avoid follow-ups an option select. Like wut?

[@Bigbodybigbeefybody]

@@nivyan yea thats still an OS tho. If you have one option that avoids all followups (sidestep), OS brah.

[@nivyan]

@@Bigbodybigbeefybody No. Option Select means making some inputs that can lead to different things depending on what the opponent does.

[@Bigbodybigbeefybody]

@@nivyan i mean yea sure but people use OS pretty liberally now. as long as theres one action you can take to avoid multiple followups people just call that an OS.

[@nivyan]

@@Bigbodybigbeefybody Just because a lot of people misuse a word, doesn't mean the wrong way of using it is suddenly correct.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Honestly it's harder to think of a character that doesn't have a move that people don't consider "broken". People struggle to realize that a character having a busted move doesn't automatically make them good. See Yoshimitsu's flash and Lucky Chloe's *fucking everything*.

[@Guitar-Dog]

Yoshi has a couple broken moves but everything else sucks on block. I play him, my mentions are NSS 1,2 (2,1?) The 10f knockdown, it's a great 10f punish and NSS FCdf3 the superfast snake edge that Kuni has aswell

[@jasonkennedy6844]

Shaheen?

[@MrDxfusion]

@@Guitar-Dog His normal 1 1 is amazing as well. Sidestep 1 is a fantastic move, FC DF 4 is one of the best full crouch moves in the game CH Launch and one of the few FC moves you can do practically instantly. His CD 2 is a really good move as well but not top tier. Finally let's not forget his spin away, this one move if used properly can make yoshi practically untouchable, also get's him out of a lot of guaranteed punishes (Lee's punch parry for example) NSS Flash, man this makes his flash even stronger stg. Rage art flash hahahaha. It makes sense his shit sucks on block, he's a mixup character, but most people ain't gonna punish his shit correctly unless the yoshi is quite dreadful in their mixups. Yoshi has a lot of bullshit people just ignore because no one has the time to go through his entire move list looking at all the nuance and situational moves.

[@mr_0n10n5]

What will be broken with Lars? SE 2??

[@parry3439]

@@mr_0n10n5 the stupid 3 hit string that knocks down and wall splats on normal hit lol

[@sageofsparda3764]

I'm honestly shocked that Noctis's ub1 wasn't on the list, or at least right beside Steve's b1. They're pretty identical moves in the fact that they're both safe, high, counterhit launchers, and Noctis's version of the move recovers faster than Steve's, meaning you can usually spam it a second time catching your opponent if they block the first one, however Steve's version of the move allows him to go into flicker pressure. So both moves are very similar, but have different things over one another as well.

[@hubbles117]

I think it's because there's no stance transition if I remember correctly but I may be wrong, also transitioning into flicker is far scarier than just being safe because of the power crush for 40ish damage in flicker, also minus one so that power crush is uninteruptable and can be mixed up with flicker jabs and mids.

[@LeiChaobruh]

TMM didn't even mention that Claudio's b1 has high evasion as well 😂

[@shawnjenkins5908]

Don’t forget Claudio’s hop kick 😂🤣😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@thiagox0499]

What Claudio's move dont high crush?

[@martalallama7389]

finally!!! i´ve been waiting for this video for so long

[@ArcienPlaysGames]

Once again, KI music in the background, absolutely love it

[@jpVari]

I love watching your videos even tho I've never played tekken (besides maybe an hour total in practice mode)... I always hear something that makes me laugh about tekken complexities. 'you can't parry it because it's an elbow' killed me for some reason. Of course! It's an elbow!

[@ShadyBase]

And yet 2 players can parry a elbow

[@VarbuKoopix]

finally! talking about moves and/or characters or their tier listing and having game in the background to show them exactly, good shit TMM

[@AIRFGC]

loved this video MainMan, would love to see you breakdown good moves from other games to highlight how metas have shifted

[@lostboy2637]

20:00 this is a hit confirm on SFV

[@coooolibri]

marduk rage drive is so OP, especially his dmg is very high, and if you just get one launch beforehand into that rage drive, enemy cant even do anything at all... :D

[@chinchi7455]

50/50s at its finest

[@erykaldo2l270]

Marduk is an epitome of a braindead 50/50 character.

[@luisbenavides3610]

All you can do is guess 👍🏼

[@halcyon__r3289]

I love how at 21:39 the music drop in sync with the reveal

[@anjrooo1]

Mardook tackle is most op based on the tilting property alone

[@truffelsnuffler]

2:45 - “All you can do when he starts his tornado of shit” 😂😂😂

[@asimsaleem3868]

I think Steve Guard Break is one of the best move in the competitive tekken as world best Players even can’t cope with it

[@sebastienhahn_tk5171]

Honorable mention : Lei's Tiger stance.True 50/50

[@RandomGameClips27]

Song name @22:10 ?

[@devilman1757]

What about the 2D jumps from Akuma, Geese and Eliza?

[@rengoku8144]

Not broken. Just for +frames and you can interrupt it

[@ultimatestevepro7267]

Also quite linear

[@jimdino77]

Everyone has anti airs that lead into combos, jumping is risky

[@jammaj5426]

Nah, and even if you did mention the 2d jump, it would only be Akuma's demon flip. Eliza and Geese dont really get much from theres unless its a very delayed hit and they are much slower.

[@FuryLima]

Yea I agree those jumps are crazy, the jumps evade moves like crazy, it's like they're doing Feng's punch parry but safe

[@pretzel_aksmash353]

Idk for Lee I think it's pretty close between magic 4, b4 and ff4. Basically the 4 button is op for Lee lmao

[@thmistrapillay1811]

I'd say b4 cuz it can go into hitman with some evasive properties

[@pretzel_aksmash353]

@Thmistra Pillay doesn't really give it evasive properties, makes it safer on block. It's actually better to not go into hitman on whiff, allows you to block earlier

[@pretzel_aksmash353]

@@thmistrapillay1811 also if you delay the stance input it adds some tracking to the move, not a ton though

[@thmistrapillay1811]

@@pretzel_aksmash353 it does add an evasive property to the move because he takes a step back and lowers his hit box a bit when going into hitman. I often go into hitman to bait a whiff punish from my opponent

[@thmistrapillay1811]

@@pretzel_aksmash353 that's cool

[@meal-meelad8662]

you could say bryans taunt as well, i28 slow but cancel anytime unblockable launcher (on paper)

[@emre4619]

Devil Kazuya f4 should be on the list. Personally its the best move in the game

[@thmistrapillay1811]

And Devil Kazuya electric

[@Stockfish1511]

i agree that flash is very good. But contrary to other moves that you just can spam, it requires skill, knowledge, experience and timing. Its really good but much harder to use effectively than most people think.

[@awaisakram8573]

Nope, very braindead I agree

[@hyunchong02]

it does not require 1/10th of the brainpower to use flash as being the opponent who has to change their entire gameplan because of flash. The opponent does a spring kick->flash, the opponent is applying wall pressure->flash, you are waking up while the opponent is applying oki->flash. It requires zero skill and timing to input. You just need the knowledge to recognize one of the three very common situations I listed and then you mash the hell out of the input.

[@parry3439]

wdym skill lol. i use yoshi and the only indicator i need to use flash is when I get hit by a non launcher. everybody wants to keep going when they're + so go ahead and press flash

[@Stockfish1511]

@@parry3439 what you say works in low ranks because they dont know how to bait or punish flash. But spamming flash whenever you block is obv not the right way to use it. Whatever you say is just basically mash flash when minus and hope for the best lol

[@rabusmar]

@@Stockfish1511 That’s actually the main use of flash, when the opponent starts respecting you and trying to bait it out it’s your win because that means he won’t be taking his frames and you can do whatever the hell you want.

[@CaseOfBears]

I would say this is top 10: i15 high crush low. Launches on normal hit for 2/3 of your life. Plus on block.

[@Léopart_le_jaguar]

could've mention king's df2 it's basically a df1 but it's a counter hit launcher with huge damages against male characters

[@WeisenbergTKMrWhite]

Very nice Video , i absolutely agree on that number 1 spot

[@LeiChaobruh]

I would add to honorable mentions: feng punch parry, hwoarang d34, ganryu df2, josie b2, king df2, jin parry, heihachi rage drive, alisa chainsaws, marduk qcf2 and lings lows like db2, 3 and 4. Good list though 👍

[@MT.SYNTHAL]

which feng parry? he has 3

[@LeiChaobruh]

@@MT.SYNTHAL 1+2

[@ergodeus]

Josie b2? Her F1+2 is prob her best move. 14f safe "launcher"(full combo only with rage but still good damage) with huge range. What makes her b2 notable? She has a pretty good magic 4, does the same thing, faster and is more damaging.

[@LeiChaobruh]

@@ergodeus well magic 4 gives up your turn, b2 is +1 on block and great on whiff. Combine that with the evasive df2 and orbital and it's crazy good. But yes f1+2 is great. Also it can launch without rage against bigger characters right?

[@ergodeus]

@@LeiChaobruh I actually didn't know it was +1 ngl... The range is trash but still that makes me rethink the move, I'll have to try it in game.

[@maku3857]

I love theses kind of videos. Thank you

[@remington_acr1651]

Jin’s parry is number one no doubt imo. Parry is everything

[@GodKingIssei]

Bryan also has insane parry

[@songoku6067]

Wouldnt call claudios b1 broken its just a really good move but nothing that makes the character stand out

[@Quartzmage21]

B1,best hopkick in the game,evasive,dumb lows come on bro top tier

[@ergodeus]

Don't forget king's df2,1... Hit confirmable, delayable, safe, 80+damage combo, counter hit launcher. When a good king player is low hp you bet that's the move that will come out. Lil majin himself says it's king's best move and is what makes impossible for armour king to reach King

[@Itsoeasyafterall]

It’s not easy to hit confirm since it doesn’t tell you at all, you have to see very carefully or guess whether it’s a counter hit or not, if you use it randomly, good players would just duck launch you on the second hit

[@TekRavenger]

King df2,1 is only a launcher on certain characters

[@ergodeus]

@@Itsoeasyafterall yes I know that but we see how balancing based on challenge did to the game... You can do it and having the possibility to launch safely with a 13f mid that leads to huge damage will never not be crazy. And as I said one of the best king players in the world says it's busted

[@Itsoeasyafterall]

@@ergodeus I don’t think being ducked launch by opponents is safe …

[@ergodeus]

@@Itsoeasyafterall it's confirmable, might be hard to confirm but it's possible... and it's super delayable.

[@shisokuseku8634]

While i completely agree that Yoshi-Flash is arguably top 1-3 move (if used by an AI for example), it's also arguably harder to use than Electric. And like you said, especially if the opponent baits it out. Sometimes it wont connect cuz the opponent is slightly off to the right or left, you need to be pretty much inside the enemys feet's hitbox. Dashing in into flash sometimes works, and sometimes it doesnt even under the same conditions, cuz the enemies idle animation changed. theres so much to keep in mind and to study but if you know ALL the factors its top 1, if you know like 70% of the factors, its definitely top 10. At least i think so. :D EDIT: i even kinda prefer NSS-Flash, since its way more consistant and predictable for the yoshi player. I dont know, it just feels a LOT better. Love punishing certain moves with SS-Flash tho. They are always guaranteed and lock the opponent completely out of using them often times.

[@Wyrmixx]

Wait, is TMM's bg music from the stream or is it added post-edit? Because the timing on the #1 move reveal is epic

[@goriaguilohernandez5573]

Surprised not even Taunt, b4 (at the wall) or jet upper was mentioned.

[@Adam7180]

Taunt isn't there because due to consistency issues, range issues, and how slow it is, sure it gives +16 but it is incredibly tight and makes it very inconsistent.

[@ahmadezat7399]

Julia's ff1 high crushes too 👀 just saying cuz she high crushed my jabs many times

[@PinoyBoy76]

Jago's Theme excellent choice

[@thejoekage9499]

Bryan has a ws3 which is a 12 fr CH Mid launcher but - 12 on block

[@adamusso_tk]

Claudio B1 is perfect move, yes

[@RandalReid]

38:21 The nss version have more reach. It's not by much and you still have to be quite close though and whiffing would still prove painful especially against attentive players or if you were baited.

[@shiekastate]

That version is 8 frame startup iirc.

[@RandalReid]

@@shiekastate Yep. Longer range, slower startup. The sword version is 6 frames if I'm remembering correctly.

[@prosketch95]

Steve b+1 is in a tier of its own

[@yutubemerda]

He pays a really high price for that move

[@prosketch95]

@@yutubemerda no risk, high reward

[@chillskid]

You're right, because it requires a lot of skill, timing etc to place correctly. A lot of these other moves on the list are braindead broken.

[@tomio9]

As a guv main, hitting the opponent with b1 aways makes me smile, because I know how broken it is lmfao.

[@tomio9]

@clxxd999 You are absolutely right, but it doesn't make the move any less broken imo.

[@andrewmarchitto8461]

Fully expected Lars SE 3+4 to be an honorable mention. That move is broken for combos.

[@Lahmeinthehouse]

I love this channel !!

[@erykaldo2l270]

Im surprised Feng's B1 didnt make the list.

[@bluelion7342]

This should be a 2 parter. To p 10 broken moves offline and online.

[@thmistrapillay1811]

Online top 1 would probably be Yoshi fc df1, I know cuz I always use it😆

[@happ0bapp0]

18:18 this combos….. this combos in…… this combos into uhhh

[@Bozzy765]

So stupid how Leroy has a safe 12f mid CH launcher while Kazuya has a 14f mid CH launcher but it is not safe

[@1991jj]

Honourable mentions : Hei/Kaz f4 Bryan Taunt Lei Tiger Stance Yoshi flash (potentially most broken) Feng b1 Feng uf2 Maven db2 Ganryu df3 Asuka b3 Negan b1+2 and f1+2 (launch powercrush? Lol)

[@ametozukumazu6073]

F4 is in the game since T3 and no one had a problem with it. Yoshi's flash is hard to use but some players having problems even with Asuka's parry so you can just randomly press it Maven with nerfed db2 never gonna use backturned stance ever again. Negan doesn't have a magic 4 or other "get of/off me" moves so he needs pressure and f1+2. Also f1+2 is slow af and -15.

[@hyunchong02]

Hei's f4 may be top 10 material, but Kaz's isn't. They are in isolation the same move, but Hei uses it so much better that its like a normal person with a gun vs a blind man with a gun. It also helps Hei can do f, f4 if he wants to do it from a dash meanwhile Kaz has to do a f, f, f4.

[@SWORDU]

Yoshi’s flash also comes out faster and has an extended hit box from NSS

[@J0ulez5]

I'm surprised that akumas +7 low didn't appear, but the rest i more or less expected

[@imtakutho]

I've never liked mortal kombat as much because the take a guess factor. To see that in tekken from DLC it's not surprising

[@resurrectionx952]

What's the music when he was explaining about Claudio's b1??? It sounds sooooooo sick help please 🥺

[@mvpilly4142]

You forgot to mention Claudio’s B1 high crush’s beating all jabs at the least

[@itachi1165]

LOL U GET TRASHED BY ME BY GIGAS LOLOL

[@itachi1165]

Keep rage quitting

[@martalallama7389]

Could noctis ff 1+2 be considered top 10? I mean it's a counter hit luncher, mid, homing, long reach and safe on block.

[@mousedagapusa685]

The execution needed should also be considered for selecting some of these "Broken" moves. A high reward move that requires insane level of practice and mechanical skill to execute doesn't seem broken is it. Also note that from the video, a lot of characters (probably even more than 10) have bullshit moves, if every character is broken, no one is! I agree what the main man is saying here as they are all powerful moves, but I won't go as far as saying their broken. Still, quality content though, lets scrubs like us know what moves to watch out for (or spam if we use them)

[@just_smilez]

An execution requirement limits access to a move, but doesn't change the properties of the move itself. PEWGF is a top move because of what it can do; the fact that it requires a lot of practice doesn't change the fact the move is strong.

[@grandpulse7970]

So if a move instakills but has high execution its not broken?

[@mr.almezeini647]

@@grandpulse7970 you make the execution impossible then noone can do it so it will not be roken😅🤣

[@mousedagapusa685]

@@grandpulse7970 yup, high execution or crazy start up animation or any big drawback for that matter, otherwise one hit moves should have never be in the game (miguel’s laughing punch, jack’s windup, yoshi’s sword slash, etc)

[@nivyan]

If you play an execution-heavy character, you shouldn't automatically be better. If you play another player with the exact same skill-set, but has better execution, you're going to win. Tekken players get salty when they lose to someone with worse execution but better general- or matchup specific knowledge, spacing, stage awareness etc. Especially people in the comment section of a guy that mains Kazuya.

[@absurdhero6317]

As a brother of a yoshi player I can vouch how mind fucking the flash is. The flash instills a fear that gives even a devil nightmares

[@1990rable]

is it cool to get started with tekken 7 now? does it make any sense to learn it?

[@fr0wz]

2:43: "(..) when he starts his tornado of shit (..) loll

[@VermillionThaKid]

Jin is perfect because he can parry that Julia elbow😍💯

[@anmarsondemir121]

does anyone know the song that plays at 22:52 ? I can't find it anywhere and it sounds sooo goood

[@TwoFoldArmageddon]

Mick Gordon (feat. Omega Sparx) - I'm Back (to Rise)

[@anmarsondemir121]

@@TwoFoldArmageddon I hope that you win the lottery :D

[@abyssbf1139]

Aganos KI theme 👍🏾 👍🏾👍🏾

[@bradwashington420]

Thank you.

[@legendarynoob4689]

whats the song name after 22:20 in the backlground?

[@mizukumecasko1216]

Isnt julias elbow a staple in old tekken games Its called party crasher for a reason

[@kingmazzieri7043]

IIRC King B1 is also a 12f CH launcher

[@estoylaroca]

Idk why Diablo Jim's hellsweep not in the top 10. Ok maybe it's not solely because of the hellsweep, but the fucking huge dmg it does when you have a wall. Insane.

[@ibrahimDagoat786]

my favourite tekken character diablo jim

[@Mystic_Eddie]

Leo's season 1 orbital was pretty nuts

[@MrDxfusion]

Just going to say this again, in terms of Lee and his top tier moves, I think most would agree its b4, m4, d3, acid storm and acid rain. Acid rain and b4 are arguably the best versions of their moves, b4 being keepout and acid rain being a 10f punish, but I'd argue Mishima 112 is better than acid rain, b4 is a really good move I agree. but then look at the rest of his moves and you won't find anything compelling, no easy mode cheat move unless you have a lee spamming b4 which can be sidewalked. D3 and Acid storm are too unreliable in random whiffs to be considered top moves. Something to note about yoshi's flash is it's a mid but you cannot attack him, simple as. Highs, mids, lows even backturn you will be flashed if you attack him.

[@ergodeus]

Lee's while standing 4 into infinite bullsh*t is also pretty dumb. I see pros dying for it all the time. And Yoshi's flash isn't really all that. It depends on the character he's against. I bet Lee will never get hit by it when doing b4. Ofc comparing 2 busted moves is not fair but believe it, I used to play him a bunch and some characters can be pressing forward and not get hit by it. It does counter kaz's wave dash like nothing else. And some moves turn unsafe because of it which is also dumb. I wouldn't mind if they give him a magic 4 and a dickjab and make him less of a clown.

[@MrDxfusion]

@@ergodeus ws3 you mean, it’s actually really easy to deal with if you know how to, sidestep towards his back after the first 2 hits, you avoid all the hits. If it’s done in a corner where you can’t sidestep, it’s a 50/50 it has 0 tracking. What you’re saying about flash is emphatically not true, no offence but from what you said I just don’t think you had that move down. My mentor is a yoshi main that was TTG and how he uses flash is absolutely disgusting, also after WR moves pretty much most the cast can get flashed on block, moves that leave you too close to yoshi give him a free launch with flash. He doesn’t need a magic 4 😂😂 a dick jab I could agree but he’s a mixup character, you can go into IS to avoid most bs. Btw Lee does get flashed quite easily if you do b4.

[@FuryLima]

He just talked about Lee's b4 which is dumb to say the least, Im saying that as a Lee enthusiast, his b4 is kinda like EWGF, so hard to whiff punish even harder if the Lee decide to go in HMS

[@MrDxfusion]

@@FuryLima Look at his tier-list video, that's what I'm mainly referencing. Agreed with b4, awesome move with practically no flaws.

[@FuryLima]

@@MrDxfusion I saw his tier list video no worries, but I guess you could have write your comment on the tier list video :D

[@abdulmoied4649]

this was the video i wanted

[@mohamadrastpayman3120]

good list but i think law 3+4 or geese standing2 could be here too

[@DamageXcaling]

"Just block" Michael Murray

[@chillskid]

What's the Geese move where he launches you from a parry. That shit is stupid broken, needs to be on this list. It's more annoying than Yoshi's flash.

[@matthewtonna1]

How could you not mention bryan’s tju?

[@Xengard]

i think jin's parry, b1+4, is much better move than his f4 i can make otherwise unpunishable moves and strings mean death to your opponent

[@Kjernekar]

I gotta agree that on paper it is probably the best move in the game. Difference being that the moves on the list can be abused reliably way more.

[@Xengard]

@@Kjernekar i mean i was thinking about that, and it does take a great ammount of skil to know and execute the command when your opponent is doing strings or whatever, but at the same time it recovers so fast and you end up blocking in just a few frames, so it is also safe and spammable in certain situations

[@derrickbunch1142]

Asuka b 3 is another busted move u forgot to mention. That move is impossible to punish consistently. Plus it crushes everything and is hit confirmable

[@lordflashheart3741]

Only online. Offline it's perfectly and severely punishable. D3+4 is way better imo.

[@derrickbunch1142]

@@lordflashheart3741 u probably play one of the 3 characters in the game that can punish it consistently. Shaheen can’t even punish the move on block. Because there’s to much push back. Easy way to nerf the move is remove the hit confirm. That should b removed then it can’t b spammed. Go watch fergus vs super akuma match from about a year ago. He uses like 3, b3 each round and almost never punished and if he does get a punish is usually super low damage. The move recovers to fast on whiff move shouldn’t have push back. Asuka should b closer on block and remove the hit confirm. That move is busted

[@pivorsc]

What playlist do you use? I swear hashinshin from LoL uses exact same songs.

[@manligi9701]

It's pretty much the Killer instinct OST

[@thmistrapillay1811]

Did not expect electric to be No.1

[@Guitar-Dog]

14:25 no it doesn't come out at 12 frames with perfect execution it's 13? Forward neutral forward+1 2frames +forward+1

[@Guitar-Dog]

Like sure it is cheap, and her wall carry really comes from 1,2 f3

[@MrDamojak]

No, you can do the forward inputs frame after frame

[@km1985]

No it’s 14frames but if you block something you can get it at 12f Every ff move is like this f,n,f,f+1 .. you have to hold the last f for at least 1 frame and then press 1 (so it’s 11 animation + 3 frames input) it’s been like this since the beginning the command list also shows it like f,F+1 means hold f… That’s been tested with programmable sticks

[@MrDamojak]

@@km1985 WR moves work like this, not ff ones

[@FuryLima]

When you have to input double forward for doing a move, you don't have to forward neutral forward, they can connect without neutral, that being said, Julia's ff1 is i12 if done perfectly, combined with range, tracking and follow up makes it one of the best moves

[@BigSleepy985]

Thank you for reminding me about Polemos’ theme. This song is IMPOSING and MASSIVE

[@user-io1ex3cw2b]

Cladio's b1 is fine. Safe, homing mid is a strong but it doesn't do outrageous damage, is 17 frames, doesn't launch or counter launch, doesn't give any frame advantage on block and isn't amongst on already OP moveset. Claudio is borderline boring asf to use, he can have this move. Fahk's df1 whirlwind circus should be higher =P

[@FuryLima]

At least if the move wasnt a KND one and evasive it would be fine, it also wall splat, I bet you didnt face any good Claudio players who can space control you trying to move arround with this move

[@WarriorOfVale]

@@FuryLima b1 knocking you down is bad for claudio. It means he can't use the frame advantage on hit. Now if it had the hit properties of noctis ff1+2...

[@WarriorOfVale]

@F Fa how?

[@Lafius]

King has two 12f CH launchers :/ Edit: b1 and sorry I found out that df2,1 is 13 not 12 frames still pretty op

[@p.p6229]

b1 and whats the other one?

[@solame10101]

mids?

[@LeiChaobruh]

king's df2 absolutely has to be a contender for best move

[@gokublacktekken6166]

Steve's B1 is still better than his B1

[@Lafius]

@@LeiChaobruh this for half HP if he lands the guaranteed unblockable, and b1

[@sweatington8423]

Do a top 10 item moves next xD

[@mrastronomical67]

Lidia's hell sweep combo and Ground punch ..

[@happ0bapp0]

i’ve never played any other fighting game so akumas cancels are such strange sequences to input

[@liu3chan]

35:20 name of the song please 🥺

[@NatiPerPerdereNPP]

I'm gonna be that guy again but Jin's f4 is steppable in both directions even at +5 after an electric. Doesn't guarantee a followup unless you have godlike execution, CBM is basically the only human being capable of doing it consistently. Even if you manage to get it, it's very average damage. It's -8 on block and if you commit into zen stance... Well, it's the worst stance in the game. And no real advantage if you cancel it which is pretty hard too anyway. Again, super strong move because of the range but how can it be Top 10 and above Leroy's 12 frames mid bullshit? Come on.

[@FuryLima]

Theres alot of BS involving Jin's f4, lets start with Zen 1+2 which crushes highs and sometimes connect as a full "natural string" when f4 connects on hit

[@aziznoman2]

what music plays at 6:40?