Day 3 Verdict: Leroy Is Completely Broken, Basically A Boss Character

[@VanRukh]

Wang: That time I was reincarnated as a SS tier black guy

[@Brian-rx9sp]

Leroy DLC is the best isekai of our time.

[@TheNightofWalpurgis666]

Once he go black, he'll never go back

[@boitahaki]

Other than the clothes they are nothing alike

[@Brian-rx9sp]

@@boitahaki Old? White beard? Chinese martial arts? Parrying?

[@SuperSoNicX2000x]

😂😂😂This is the TRUE COMMENT!!!🤣

[@YoungPhenix]

Bruce...easy damage. Master Raven...easy wall carry and big damage. Leroy...godlike. Clearly Harada has a type. He's welcome to the cookout whenever he wants.

[@PanikDoctor]

Tag 2 Eddy

[@Roderickthegray]

Dawg😂

[@JazzBoiiFGC]

If it wasn't for the fact that Murray leads the balancement team lol

[@hirozzayz8164]

Lmfao

[@BoONeo]

Pretty much everyone has easy wall carry in season 3 tho

[@TooSweaty7]

Tekken cast: Who are you? Leroy: I'm you but better...

[@simpleclonetrooper2740]

Law: AAAAAUUUUGHUUUGHHH!!!

[@lukedeauxilium]

jin : yameteee leroy sarcasticly : kimochiiii

[@andybaker8775]

Xiayou: Motooo , mmmmmotooo

[@nehemiahdick3714]

That is good roast

[@belosneshkaaaa]

*someone far away in the background is hearing this *EEEUUUHHHH*

[@rilohoneu6030]

Yeah i could tell immedietely. Everything he does is either unseeable, safe, or the damage is through the roof. How is he DPS and power?

[@Stockfish1511]

They should have added yoshis flash aswell but with 3 frame instead of 6 to put the cherry on the cake lmao

[@spiritualopportunism4585]

@@Stockfish1511 lol

[@grandpanoogie2665]

@@Stockfish1511 why stop there? Make him flash with the pimp cane in one frame and give it pimp range. EZ life.

[@Stockfish1511]

@@grandpanoogie2665 lol maybe add akumas meter and d3 too haha

[@JothTheMan]

@@Stockfish1511 cane is close

[@kadavercade3597]

50 Years of Training made him OP

[@skillustrates]

@ShitpostingAtheist That's a damn good point- he's been training considerably longer than most of the cast has been alive.

[@Quran_eee]

ShitpostingAtheist lmaaaaao RIP Xiaoyu and Lili

[@Zadamanim]

leroy spent 50 years in training mode so you wont have to

[@mightykanohii]

Remember when Jin trained 3 years and has op in Tekken 4 ?

[@antoniogriffin7135]

💪💪

[@LifeWillChange]

Leroy would be top-tier in Tekken 5 and that's saying something

[@abirneji]

high but not top he might be broken here but in t5 he'd just be rather strong

[@ulurius]

Not top, he doesn't get a TOD off of a sidestep

[@fasoooli2751]

@@ulurius TOD?

[@BoxingTed]

@@fasoooli2751 short for '' touch of death''

[@aspreedacore]

@@fasoooli2751 A combo that literally kills off of one hit. We are not talking Just big dmg we here, we are talking full health to K.O. from one combo.

[@RabidMonkey2751]

Tekken community: Leroy is busted needs nerfs What namco will say: ok we've heard your feedback and think it's better to nerf Lili, Lee, Eliza and bears again

[@Showmatic]

As an Eliza main, I gotta agree. feelsbadman

[@rasaa7227]

And they will usually "buff" the Williams sisters by fixing the animation of Anna's left butt cheek when she goes into crouch and they'll go overboard with buffing Nina by adding 1 point of damage and half a positive frame to the 6th hit of her 3rd 10 hit string.

[@SoukaDeezNutz]

Panda? Really?

[@svenmeling6053]

You forgot to nerf Gigas.

[@magisterki3568]

eliza main. I JIST WANT WAIFU GOOD MAN XC

[@IAMOP]

Wish they focused more on parries and execution. His animations look cool but I'm only pressing 1 button.

[@bujinfujin9668]

All Sauce and No Substance... truly a shame.

[@Prince-Shogun]

As a Jin main parrying with Leroy Smith will be no problem!

[@trezayngounder558]

Bandai Namco haven't made a Tekken character that requires good execution in over ten years

[@Prince-Shogun]

@@trezayngounder558 it's honestly refreshing!

[@trezayngounder558]

@@Prince-Shogun what's refreshing?

[@blakereppert3425]

The Legendary Bruce Leroy, catching bullets with his teeth! CATCHES BULLETS WITH HIS TEETH!

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

N**** PLEASE KISS MY CONVERSE

[@DJ-wo9nd]

Hahaha Memories lol

[@JunKazamaFan]

Bitch, please! Heihachi caught a tomahawk in his teeth...and then he fucking ate it!

[@Prince-Shogun]

Barry Gordon's the last dragon!

[@Prince-Shogun]

@@JunKazamaFan he did not eat that tomahawk, he spit the remains out!

[@richigirinarami276]

That's just because they want everyone to buy him and then he will be nerfed on the level he was originally intended to be

[@fee68]

Damn you’re right

[@bogeyt15games55]

Happens in every single game.

[@ralphire77]

How much nerfing can they do? Remove some moves? He'll still be top tier 😂

[@Kisuke323]

yes, exactly like riot games... i will buy him after the nerf for a moral victory

[@Wutz_]

@@bogeyt15games55 cough smash 4 cough

[@4grammaton]

Leroy's orbital hits grounded btw. Not even rolling on the ground, just straight up lying still grounded.

[@allendesir9340]

You can get a hit confirm down back 2, 1+2 if you you use orbital as a combo ender. Talk about broken!

[@Fireaspider]

No fuckin way, your lying

[@joshuaxiong8377]

While they're releasing crazy characters; I would like to see Asura Omen Jin, Devil Kazumi, Devil Kazuya, and Ascended Heihachi.

[@jspears19]

Nice

[@emreasci8680]

Forest Law, Mokujin, Orge (any from), Bruce Irvin, Raven, Jun Kazama, Beak, Wang Jinrei, Christie Monteiro, Michelle Chang.

[@circleturtles]

Leroy almost feels like Namco trying to prove Tekken characters are better than 2D characters. Leroy is like an S tier from Tekken 5.

[@madicus4156]

He’s godly lol can’t wait for tekken world tour to come and see everyone playing Leroy lol

[@basbrush]

*Leeroy almost feels like Namco are applying a pay2win business model to Tekken.

[@quarohnholliday]

@@basbrush L

[@circleturtles]

@@basbrush this is what happens when everyone complains about dlc characters being weak

[@Quran_eee]

This comment made me happy instead of being angry thx 😝

[@cobalt9278]

jesus he's like the ace of all trades.

[@signorMentoOfficial]

He even has the N-word pass

[@kneevuna159]

The real reason why he is broken tier

[@scarvello]

KneeVuna19 ignorance at it’s finest

[@imblacksoimslow5731]

@@kneevuna159 a gay pass is actually more than a nigga pass!!!🤷🏿‍♂️

[@monmonph7197]

The best one so far hahahahaa

[@Iam1nsane]

@@scarvello He is just joking chillax bro. :)

[@JunKazamaFan]

Online the past few days in a nutshell: Leroys. Leroys everywhere.

[@undyingsoul3949]

Unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of facing one yet.

[@JunKazamaFan]

@@undyingsoul3949 Consider yourself lucky. Been trying out Ganryu, and it's like every other character got erased from the game.

[@NeoZero85]

Yup, I had to take a break lol.... everyone is playing him

[@TheRealKingTGP]

I only fought Leroys and Pauls, haven't seen anyone else.

[@JoCTekken7]

@@TheRealKingTGP And me Leroy and Bryan...

[@DaedricNZ]

I swear there's no way they didn't realise how OP he was while making him. Maybe it's some kind of ploy to generate more hype around the character and/or boost sales post release, with planned nerfs down the line. I mean does he really need a top tier hellsweep on top of all the other crazy shit he already has 🤦‍♂️

[@albertnicomedez]

Conspiracy theory: Leroy won't get nerfed. Leroy was intentional. Leroy was meant to be the anti Geese and Akuma.

[@tinhlaquoc2652]

He is pretty much an anti character to every character. Leroy is in broken tier.

[@mr.leroysmith7012]

@@tinhlaquoc2652 u can't nerf ip-man. Wing chun is supposed to be op

[@malcolmhoward77]

Nah I can dust akuma and geese with STEVE FOX

[@Time2GoHam1995]

I thought about this too. His orbital is great against akuma’s d3 and d2. Akuma’s fireball is -14 which Leroy can 1+2 because of that. He has an i12 counterhit mid launcher to stop Akuma mashing on d12. His d1+2 contest akuma’s neutral extremely well. Idk how his anti airs are but if they are good, he’s probably very strong against Akuma.

[@DombiliMaymun]

@@malcolmhoward77 XD

[@amircat1009]

Other main man videos “high tier but not broken” 3 days in THIS MAN IS INSANELY BROKEN

[@nicolicachero3432]

he explained that he thought he was not broken... And he just realized how broken leroy was after playing him for quite a while

[@amircat1009]

Nicoli Cachero just a joke man

[@syaredzaashrafi1101]

@@amircat1009 he said it in the video that he thought he wasnt broken. but after playing for a while, he change he's mind

[@overguy12]

@@amircat1009 Pretty shit joke, bro.

[@KatanaProtek]

TMM didn't even touch on a lot of things. For instance, after a parry on a big move you do b3, not orbital, for the launch due to it being faster. Combos with cane and ragedrive combined are legit broken also and cane breaks certain other aspects (ff3 into cane, df(4)3ch into cane etc). Fun being an Asuka and trying a parry and getting a 140dmg combo in your face on reaction etc. Community is also finding out how to cancel his stance faster than what was thought making guesses going in with it legit safe and so on.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Leroy is basically a reincarnation of Ogre at this point.

[@Wavy_Godd96]

No Wang from tekken 6

[@luiissmolina9354]

@@Wavy_Godd96 wang? Naaaah wang is very diferent , I dont understand why the people said things like that...

[@Wavy_Godd96]

Luiiss Molina There’s comparison videos that prove it to be true they literally have the same moves

[@luiissmolina9354]

@@Wavy_Godd96 yeah its true that they have similar moves but leroy is other level.... My special characters are law and kings but also played with the others for that reason I thing that leroy is most a combinacion of law (for the style of his hands ) a little of zafina negan and hworang for the poses and some moves and gesse (only for the counters xD) And honestly if somebady like knee or other máster play with leroy at point to do him his oficialy battle player ...fuck ... Realy FUCK!

[@LIFEFORCE-XX]

JKF 201726 TEKKENTAG1 true ogre

[@allanyang21]

top 8 evo, 8 leroys

[@gliath888]

Leroy mirror matches would actually be kinda hype. They both have the same broken stuff, but whoever can utilize his parry timings better will most likely be the victor. It would be sick.

[@tominis4444]

Close, EVO Japan ended up with 6

[@FGirao]

@@gliath888 they werent lol

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

Plautus egal buy eyes

[@Bigbodybigbeefybody]

@Plautus egal buy a brain

[@crosleybendix97]

I played a bunch of Leroy these past couple days vs. God Primes with my purple rank Gigas. You can imagine how the majority of the games went lmao.

[@BLACKM00NECLIPSE]

That must have been a headache

[@cmolodiets]

because you don't know the match up. You'll learn to play againt leeroy

[@crosleybendix97]

@@cmolodiets I'm getting the hang of his strings at least, he's not very complicated, but I fear his strengths lol

[@qweqweqwadcsc]

@@crosleybendix97 10 zillion years late but not only that, also the luxury of options he has

[@MaxxSeemov]

The OP'ness of Leroy is intentional as they want to end the "Akuma is the strongest Tekken character" meme. Guess what, Akuma is second place now.

[@Big_Human]

Plot twist They buff akuma and give him noctis execution

[@MEGASTRIX]

@@Big_Human FUCCCCC

[@damianhoangvan2032]

Fucc Akuma

[@shenelljohnson74]

@@damianhoangvan2032 love akuma

[@damianhoangvan2032]

@@shenelljohnson74 Akuma must return to Street Fighter. No for Akuma in Tekken.

[@bigbrowski410]

All of the people who said “he’s not op you just don’t know the matchup” don’t understand that goes both ways. No one is playing Leroy at his highest level. No one I’ve seen is incorporating proper parry usage, in hermit especially, no one is going nuts with hermit mixups, no one is doing super nutty mix ups in general. At his current level, a Leroy who is capable of doing all the shit he can with hermit, parry’s, and mix ups may as well be unbeatable. Just for some examples, who has anyone seen use Leroy’s baked in parry’s at the startup of of moves like uf1 and hmt 1. Who’s been using Leroy’s really good sidestep out of hmt? Who’s been using hmt low parry into 1+2 for a wall bounce combo? The fact you don’t even need to do this stuff to get good results with him shows just how amazing his tools are. It’s season 2 Jin all over again. He has godlike tools on top of having so many versatile options people don’t even need to use because his godlike tools are just that good. Except Leroy has such a low entry level compared to Jin. He’s stupid and needs nerfs, no question.

[@astro_1707]

DKing Damn right

[@07citychamp]

For alot of this I agree with you, especially his sheer number of tools and damage from said tools and relative safety. So the question is, what do you change about him without ruining the character?

[@shahbaz6741]

Finished?

[@miguelbueno774]

All the people who say that are the ones using him so obviously they're not gonna openly admit it

[@bigbrowski410]

07citychamp Id say just make all of his stuff way more unsafe to force people into parrying more. It’s clear from everything they’ve shown they really like the counter aspect of him. Half of all his advertising really emphasized just how evasive he can be. So emphasize that gameplay. Make him more advantageous on his parry follow up but make him more unsafe everywhere else.

[@Cherry91]

They probably got scared of another Negan bad gameplay on release scenario so there you go!

[@aviary__]

Negan was actually not too bad on release.. ppl relied on slow moves but his jab strings and his pushing mid was strong. The funny thing was that when pro players actually labbed Negan and discovered his potential he got buffed bc of his bad reputation on release, making him a very solid high tier character in the late season 2 scene.

[@blackrambo1]

The difference is people liked negan even tho he was low tier on release as he was fun, unique and charismatic. When people like a character enough to play them regardless of tier, they will surely get buffed to get more people playing them. That's exactly what happened to negan. Even though he was released low tier, people liked him so he was buffed and became more popular. Leroy however, was released broken and uninteresting. People immediately hated playing him and playing against him. No amount of nerfs will get people back on the leroy train as players will always be reminded of when he was broken. Compared to negan players who can cherish the fact that he got buffed. Namco should've released Leroy as an interesting, fun, low tier character and slowly buffed him with the community's blessing. Just as they did with negan, who is way more popular than leroy now.

[@i_dont_have_a_youtube_chan8584]

This video aged well

[@bludika]

It’s incredible that I’m losing to a bunch of low level ryujin Leroys when I’m a tgp, and I know for a fact they’d lose if they were using their usual mains

[@CALLMEARJ]

Every Tekken DLC Character is purposely released broken in order to make more people play him online, make more streamers make video with them, and so drive more purchases of the character. Over time they all become nerfed back down to be competitive. Namco are hesitant to completely nerf akuma as akuma is a major selling point of the game, so having akuma's at tourney is great for them

[@quasimodoultrakanake8938]

Negan lei anna

[@crazy911wman]

Armor king and marduk just got buffed later

[@LightDragon666]

they should be i think, but there are powerful characters in normal characters too

[@herokiryu2652]

Namco's balance in a nut shell. Mean while Gigas still doesnt have a new grab, and his lows keep getting nerfed.

[@callmefreeze]

He's definitely OP ive been fighting him alot and at times I've just been standing there wondering what to do because if you make a mistake you're basically dead. He has a bit too much keep the tech tone down the dmg.

[@Deatrockerz]

Also, leeroy can launch from F F+3. (when opponents legs going down do df3 , 1) its need to be practiced cos its hard to catch moment, but after it works consistently

[@TyshawnMaikonMillion]

I like how you went from "Leroy is top tier but not broken" to "Leroy is completely broken. Yeah no shit

[@crazy911wman]

Leroy mains: But no! We just need to wait 4 months before deciding what is op and what is not. Oh and just backdash bro

[@rilohoneu6030]

Just block his atttacks duh.

[@JunKazamaFan]

"Just don't get hit, bro!"

[@justachocolateman1623]

Strings beat his b2 parry. Sincerely A Leroy labbing. 😂😂

[@donvisione3634]

"just sidewalk left bro"

[@rilohoneu6030]

@@justachocolateman1623 we talking yarn or nylon?

[@eazypeezy4505]

He's like GT Goku in Fighterz. He has all the good stuff from everyone else. lol

[@tonyl9636]

So we've had our first big tournament since Leroy dropped. You know. Leroy Japan 2020.

[@DmadPs]

I think that this was their plan from the beginning, everyone will buy the character cos its really good, and then after they made a lot of money here come the nerfs Great business strategy to pay for a 3rd season.

[@LoneTaurus82]

Those were my exact thoughts about him. Makes sense.

[@zangana3052]

Same with Geese, Akuma

[@servantofcygnus]

Halsho Zangana akuma was a launch character you absolute dweeb

[@DmadPs]

Halsho Zangana i think that the point of akuma and geese was to attract people from 2d games, and since they didnt want to disrespect the characters and the other companies by making them weak, they made them pretty good, i think akuma was just bad design, they had no idea the character was this good even after the arcade nerf.

[@JazzBoiiFGC]

Nah man. If somebody is going to play Leroy because he's op it means he's at a high enough level, that means that he would have bought him anyways just to study the frame data.

[@Rabbitforce97]

6:37 he is so disgusted by leroy that he cant hide how swedish he is "plus seVEN"

[@mistashadow]

well, that's certainly interesting To be like a playable boss character... wew

[@JazzBoiiFGC]

Nah man, Leroy's surely op but this is just TMM emphasizing things lol don't be overdramatic

[@mouvessev244]

Yeah cause there's heihachi jin kazuya and devil

[@jetsettech8804]

@@JazzBoiiFGC nah, Leroy is busted. It's silly. Damage, frame data, tracking, mix ups. This guy does all of it amazingly well. He's completely busted. I understand if you use the character and you don't really want to admit that the wins you were getting were kind of fucked, not come on, he's ridiculous.

[@JazzBoiiFGC]

@@jetsettech8804 he's op, not like a boss character... probably you only played easy singleplayer games lol

[@jetsettech8804]

@@JazzBoiiFGC You laughed at your own joke. Good lord. He's OP, I don't care if he's a boss character, but OP is OP, doesn't matter the level of it. I literally do not even want to play ranked right now. I'll wait until hes finished.

[@DeadlyToothpick]

Glad people are saying this as he is nuts lol. I wanna play Leroy but I'd rather wait to really learn him til they're actually done with the character

[@zaeemtahir3132]

OK... Play style will be same still.

[@jetsettech8804]

@@zaeemtahir3132 lol no it won't. Right now, he does what he wants and gets away with it.

[@zaeemtahir3132]

@@jetsettech8804 i agree with you.I was thinking about it its better to wait.

[@TheLinkrules123]

Most ppl only get a 12f high ch launcher, which is usually - 9 on block, yet leeroy gets a 12f mid - 5 on block ch launcher

[@nixuniverse5240]

This honestly feels like one of those throw back videos where you review old broken Tekken characters.

[@JunKazamaFan]

It's Tekken Tag Tournament 1 True Ogre all over again. It's rather charming, I loved those videos.

[@francescocaruso9196]

Is tekken pay2win? Namco: let me introduce leroy

[@joycehayes1454]

Speaking of such you have to pay for a dlc character in order to do punishment training with them.

[@QMOne]

Devs:How strong u want Leroy to be? Harada:yes

[@francescocaruso9196]

And the fact that we have to play for the frame data?

[@francescocaruso9196]

@@thepcda27 yes but this is nearly pay2win

[@aspreedacore]

@Scream @scream and @PCDA that was harada's original goal I believe but he got fked by the board, also @PCDA this should be a thing for all fighting games imo, I shouldn't have to learn DLC chars from friends or trying to find them in game modes and get one match and then find them again.

[@Dajen_Tk]

Have you guys not seen the movies? You're just now realizing Ipman is Op? I guess seeing him take on 10 men at once wasnt convincing enough :D

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

He's not Ip man; he's Rza.

[@artofyam_yt2484]

@@exquisitecorpse4917 lol

[@Viewer13128]

haha, but then Bruce Lee (Law) is not OP in Tekken, and we know Bruce Lee surpassed his master in both real life and in movies. So Leroy should be weaker than Law in that sense. This means a huge balance (nerf) is mandatory for the proper lore. Leroy is pure Wing Chun, so he needs to be notably weaker than Law. Plus, in the 21st century, there is no way a black guy can find anyone to teach him anything authentic, so Leroy really should have some wacky, silly Hollywood kung fu.

[@Dajen_Tk]

@@Viewer13128 - I agreed with you until the last part. All the authentic Kung Fu is in China where Leroy spent the last 50 years of his life. There is no reason he should have "hollywood" kung fu, he would have found true masters to teach him in China.

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

@@Viewer13128 Bruce Lee is for kung fu movie noobs.....you run out of Bruce really quickly. You could watch a different Jackie Chan movie every week for four years.

[@yudcrazy4964]

Well it looks like Tekken starts applying Blizzard's business model. Release OP DLC. Everyone buys em, once the barrel is full of them cash, nerf the character. And bring out the new sugarcane (Fakhumram) and the loop goes on. Not too shabby

[@masajmahdiq2472]

Imagine if a player like Knee picks up Leroy I don't see anyone beating him ....

[@ojsojs6004]

Then they will also pick Leroy. Pakistani Leroy. Jdcr, lowhigh Leroy.

[@ntodek]

@@bigpoop6245 Lol

[@donvisione3634]

chikurin is already thinking about maining him lol

[@shenelljohnson74]

Jokes on you CBM just beat his Leroy tho

[@ojsojs6004]

Knee did pick up leroy against rangchu at ogn, but rangchu beat knee.

[@SomniaCE]

I think the sad part about having modern fighting games update so often is that you lose a lot of the legacy. I can't go and show anyone SFV when Ryu was broken tier season 1, or when Nash ruled the meta. I can't go and show anyone season 1 D. Jin in Tekken 7, or season 2 Akuma/Geese. Its a damn shame. I hope they come out with a Version Select similar to Ultra Street Fighter IV so we can always go back and relive those crazy characters at their highest highs and lowest lows

[@TheLinkrules123]

Everyone was talking about how paid framedata is p2w, but Leroy is another level of p2w, can't even lab him without paying money

[@bilalmajeed3282]

almost all major players are trying leroy right now, this alone tells us how overpowered he is

[@atuls55]

They made him broken on purpose to cash in on the hype and release him after the TWT so as not to affect the tournament scene. Fahkumram will come out in time for the start of the next TWT season so I expect him to be fair on release.

[@JoCTekken7]

Money Money !!

[@Reydriel]

We'll see about Fahkumram, he has those guard break moves lol (though they look quite slow, and are probably high, which would make them effectively snake edges)

[@atuls55]

@Angga Antonio I forgot about Evo Japan then as it's still a new tournament but I think they care the most about TWT tournaments which don't start till April.

[@Phantheman90]

imma wait it out buying him as i want to be able to adjust to the post nerfed Leroy rather than this.

[@IvanOrdell]

Before twt they are not nerfing him

[@gokublacktekken6166]

I'm pretty sure a lot of nerfs will be dismissed on purpose like what was done with Akuma and he will still be broken. Developers seem lost on how to balance the game.

[@sijcecilio]

Even if they nerf him, which they should, he still looks awesome and his moves look good. Maybe tone down the plus frames on those moves and make some of reductions on the combo damage and he'll be fine

[@crazy911wman]

The beauty of character is when its weak but player makes him look strong. Not the other way. If character is easy and strong then player looks like a spoiled bitch

[@sO_RoNerY]

You kids want to nerf everybody so you people don’t have to learn how to fight against a player using them. Grow up lol.

[@crazy911wman]

@@sO_RoNerY holy shit man do you live under the rock? Everyone already decided hes op and its obvious hes gonna get a nerf. Too late for "pls dont nerf my character" comments

[@Crimsongz]

I’m_Lonely You’re_Lonely Ok boomer

[@BoONeo]

@@sO_RoNerY Ah look the vindictator who speaks as if he could 10-0 Arslan shares his "100% fact" opinion

[@G-R-IE-IE-D]

Lol I’ve been trying to tell people but Nobody wants to hear it. Most are saying he’s to new to judge but the amount of tools and frames on them alone tells the whole story.

[@DeathsIntent96]

Everyone is saying he's broken lol

[@sosman747]

kato093 woah there chill man it’s alright he’ll be nerfed, in the mean time get some rest and calm tf down

[@iamnotglenn]

When people say he's too new to judge but the practice mode includes frame data, range readouts, and damage counter to let you know he really is that busted.

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

Me too man! I said a while back he looks broken and it makes me glad I dropped the game. I legit got called a bitch, scrub, etc. Funny how everyone agrees now

[@sathere4786]

I mean, basically Leroy is 60/70 year old Crow from Def Jam and he is top tier in that game too. Idk if it's just me, but the design of him seems a little similar to crow as well.

[@sathere4786]

Idk why I'm comparing both of these characters, I just love both of these games.

[@blackime6392]

95% are just playing on auto pilot with these broken ass moves plus the cancerous parry

[@1034486]

Exactly. Can’t do electrics? Can’t do TJU? No problem, just pay $6 to win

[@isaiahrevelles8029]

ehy boss what’s TJU 😂

[@JazzBoiiFGC]

@@1034486 wdym? So if you can't do ewgf and tju then you can't win? Poor other 95% of the roster...

[@JazzBoiiFGC]

That's why there are always plenty of Kazuya and Bryan players in top 8 lol

[@primitiveenergy8655]

@@JazzBoiiFGC shut up idiot ur probably a leroy player who plays him on autopilot, wait till leroy gets in tournament he will DESTROY everyone in this state

[@idlemindoo]

Awesome video! Leroy is the Truth💯

[@ralpicortexz6751]

This is why I have mad respect to TMM. He is just so honest. He doesn't use broken characters to his advantage, but instead exposes them for it to be balanced.

[@gamwpanagia]

He's honest unless it comes to mishimas, it's okay nobody's perfect

[@Esthoneal]

@@gamwpanagia I'd say he is half honest when it comes to mishimas he just very biased at times

[@170AndBeyond]

I said this on reddit. He is broken to the point where he's not even fun to play in actual matches (for me). I wanted him to be balanced out. This was the same reason why I dropped dragonov right away. Kind of a different story, but you get the point.

[@rb4916]

I was hype for Leroy because I thought he would take some amount of skill to play but now I just don't want to see him anymore lol. He's basically a scrub character

[@170AndBeyond]

@@rb4916 Right. I've thought about nerfing myself by not using pimp cane or certain moves. I'd rather just play other characters. I've been neglecting season 3 altogether anyway.

[@bludika]

Thank god you are one of the small minority of players with self respect and dignity, characters like dragunov just kill the fun out of everything

[@170AndBeyond]

:)

[@megadethfist]

They need to give a clean hit property to his Pimp Sweep so he can’t do it from so far away; make it knock down at range 0. That’s how Paul’s demo man is balanced because otherwise the rest of the string isn’t safe at all on block. Fix that 12f safe mid CH launcher. It makes Kazuya’s df2 look useless. It shouldn’t be just -5 on block. At the very least, -12. Maybe even more than that. Tone down the frames on his orbital. Everything else MainMan said I agree with too, but these are the main ones I want fixed for sure.

[@drunkengaming4782]

Even so he will still be broken, the hworang low is even better IMO and you can't SS the mix up at all, you need to guess. 11 frame mid that you can hit confirm or just do first hit? a parry option+his stance low parry option? and the 3,4 low? he's just insane. Nerfing him would require a full rework since everything he has is broken

[@megadethfist]

Drunkengaming yeah. Like, it’s a straight up guess because it requires no wavedash/movement and it’s got insane range. At least when Kazuya wavedashes in your face and you eat a ff+3, you were expecting a hellsweep and therefore you got mixed up. Leroy just presses one button and it’s either you are ducking (which is a dumb idea with all his strong mids) or you eat the hellsweep with huge pushback on hit. Edit: I agree on the rework. When they reworked Negan for season 3, it seemed much more complete. I just hope it doesn’t take an entire season to fix Leroy.

[@ghostbladevanguard514]

B1+2 is fine it has super shit range maybe make it 13 frames or something but not -12 or so alot of chars got safe ch tools

[@PedoGT]

Kazuya's 14f mid CH launcher tracks both sides and has 2-3x better range. Leroy's 12f CH mid is broken without a doubt even with the shitty range and poor tracking. Doesn't deserved to be unsafe but at least and most be -9, -5 is too broken for it's frame and CH property.

[@BoONeo]

@@PedoGT -9 makes it safe anyway, for a fast panic move that gives a full combo it definitley at least deserves to be -11 Kazuya doesnt have 10 other launch options like Leroy does

[@Simplegamemer]

Leroy basically parallels to Tekken 6 as Bob.. Bob Everywhere 9 years ago. Today, it's Leroy everywhere.

[@InboardLucas]

I have no idea how they're going to balance this. It's so powerful it's ridiculous. He almost needs a complete rework at this point

[@zakali4195]

Imagine if he had a Yoshi like flash too fuck the possibilities are stoopid

[@lixunis]

Went from *I'm not gonna do any tierlists* into *BROKEN*. In under 3 days.

[@AirLancer]

It doesn't take keen observational skills to determine that having huge damage output, tons of ways to get into that damage, huge punishes, dangerous lows, great poking, great distance closing attacks, strong panic moves, and an incredible parry add up to a very strong character. And that's all only surface level stuff.

[@effive7817]

Lists. Lists. *Lists.* ???

[@rossanderson4156]

@@effive7817 why get mad at lists?

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Something tells me just before recording this video he got more than a little shitmixed by a Leroy in ranked

[@zerotheunintended7513]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN yeah definitely

[@RP-bx7qy]

Thats how modern games are: they add new content that is so op just to raise the hipe. Nerf/bans follows. But people like it like this so... at least wing chun sucks in real life lol

[@zekiel2533]

It sucks how?

[@RP-bx7qy]

@@zekiel2533 thats what most people say based on videos of wing chun guys against other fighting style practicioner

[@gamwpanagia]

You'll never see wing chun in mma,for good reason

[@Viewer13128]

"toned down" is an understatement. his uniqueness is the wing chun parries. he cannot have signature moves from other characters. if he keeps them, they need to be clearly inferior. having equal versions would still make leroy a boss character. also, he should be a defensive oriented character. he is too good at offense. aside from that long range ch mid, he also has a super long range high ff3 like claudio's but leroy's is homing. the character is so strong you can literally play it however you want.

[@buddydabney2266]

Haters

[@Viewer13128]

@@buddydabney2266 give haters a reason to love lol. and my comment is 2 weeks old. more bs has come out regarding leroy, and you actually posted this 5 minutes ago? there are literally (legit) videos explaining in detail how broken leroy is that were recently uploaded.

[@Murkcity11207]

I was super excited for Leroy when he was announced, he's repping my home state New York. Mainman didnt even show the damage that can come from his Hmt auto parry low into his guaranteed wall bounce. AS IM WRITING THIS I JUST REALIZED... you have to be insanely careful with challenging his hmt stance. If you throw a mid or high, Leroy can cancel his hmt into b+2 for a parry. If you decide to throw a low, auto parry into guaranteed wall bounce... its just... insane. And I play him.

[@Gacho39]

I just realised that they released leroy near the release of Ip Man 4, nice move namco

[@x511100x]

They either need to make his parry manual like Jin's or vulnerable to elbows and knees like Asuka

[@Quran_eee]

His parry isn’t that big of a threat compared to the orbital -3 lmao that’s my df1

[@x511100x]

@@Quran_eee I sidewalked almost behind him and his orbital hit me. That's when I was done

[@jamessunderland1876]

It's times like these that make me wonder if the developers really do have a grasp on balancing.

[@TyrellYT]

To me it looks more like a genius marketing plan than a poor grasp on balancing

[@jays.6843]

Play literally any other fighting game right now and you'll love Tekken more. It's also easier to tune something down than up. An awful character can be broken with a small frame adjustment, but a broken character can only become awful if they overshoot it. That's why Akuma is getting slow incremental nerfs instead of getting dumpstered.

[@Denco12]

@@TyrellYT casuals ay?

[@robertfudge3746]

Except Blazblue central fiction,Kof ,skull girls and guilty

[@happycat4838]

They don't want that, just a grasp at people's wallets

[@Magiinemagiine]

but he has drip though

[@JonanTS]

Either they make a useless character on release, or an astonishingly powerful one lmao

[@jays.6843]

Ganryu.

[@BoONeo]

@@jays.6843 Ganryu is pretty strong tho, not broken tier however hes just a good char overall

[@alexmercer3499]

Isn't Ganryu supposed to be strong?

[@vaibhavthathola1850]

Using "an" before "useless" is bad English

[@JonanTS]

@@vaibhavthathola1850 How should I write It i really want to know!!

[@FinnDarius]

I did a few trials in practice mode, and his parry window is apparently roughly between the 2nd and 20th frame, it's literally more than double the length of Jin's parry window of between 2nd and 8th frame

[@Life1233_]

Those machin gun punches aren’t going to jail anymore. They are going to make orbital more unsafe. Pimp sweep is not going to be homing and they are going to slow it down by a couple frames. Just a few things I think they are going to change

[@ghostbladevanguard514]

Machine gun should jail shit its his wing chun identity

[@sadetwizelve]

Leroy is an snk boss without a projectile.

[@joejo6969]

I was hyped to try him but knowing he's brain dead broken with no execution required I lost my interest. Ganryu is cooler and let's see Fahkuman

[@flavioalbatrozz2557]

He is a good character. Just need a heavy nerf

[@joefran2814]

Right stupid casuals think there gonna be god like with him

[@jmhellison]

@Alex Vi Venezuela I can name plenty characters that require execution. Paul, Feng, Lei, Mishimas, Yoshi, Williams

[@ntodek]

@@jmhellisonPaul? Nah, maybe tag 2 Paul

[@JunKazamaFan]

Yeah, I'm sticking with Ganryu, as well. DOSUKOI!

[@hiverhythm]

Bryan's orbital heel actually recovers faster by three frames. Thus Leroy's orbital heel is much more easy to whiff punish. Not saying a lot but still. I've also heard that Bryan's is a bit evasive but supposedly so is leroy's but i haven't researched this myself.

[@lotghgits]

He is like a endless nightmare whenever i play with him or playing against to him...He is completely ridiculus...

[@skipfuego6339]

You just mad because he is another black character from another fighting game that is strong

[@1034486]

Skip Fuego what other fighting game is he from? Enlighten me

[@skipfuego6339]

@@1034486 you need to read...I never said that character was in another game.

[@1034486]

Skip Fuego “from another fighting game” learn how to type asshat

[@lagmaster12]

Skip Fuego you sir are dumb

[@Zayl1016]

Leroy's got the arms of gigas and the speed of Wang

[@OZcomingFRoo]

Before : "Leroy Full Breakdown, Top Tier But Not Broken ..." Now: "Leroy Is Completely Broken..." PIKACHU FACE

[@yeah5874]

Soon: Leroy has gained sentience and has deleted all other characters

[@MakeSense71]

Translation, day 1 assessment, vs day 4 assessment.

[@JumbaJumby]

Worth noting that if you duck his rapid punches, it doesn't matter if he does the final hit or not. It's not fast enough to interrupt a 15f while standing launcher. Duck after 1,1 on reaction. It's a launch every time if he commits to the 1+2. Kind of ruins the viability of the string tbh.

[@MansMan42069]

Bamco creates a DOA character by mistake.

[@neithan27yt60]

Fahkumram: *i am forgetten* Ganryu: *i feel you*

[@hugobuitendijk8653]

Just tone every strong move down a few frames and we're good to go i think

[@MastaKilla63]

FINALLY! Someone is talking sense about Leroy. I've lost to so many Leroy players in ranked and player matches because of the fact that they're acting like assholes with him. Leroy users basically limit themselves to about 6 moves. I don't have him so I don't know his commands, but I think we can all agree that his parry, orbital-like kick, the sweep kick to punch combo and his low-high natural combo are all moves that they abuse online, and his parry can get around shoulder attacks. Really? What made Leroy an exception to the rule regarding parries? He needs some serious nerfs, honest to God. I get really thick from playing online sometimes because of him.

[@GhostOfSpaarta]

This have a name: Money, cash, dinheiro '-' in the end of Generation! And our beloved Jun nanco?

[@hlscultivator6167]

LEROY meaning THE KING🤘. Good video 👌

[@misantrope6267]

TMM 3 days ago: "Leroy Full Breakdown, Top Tier But Not Broken | Sugar & Pimp Cane" TMM today: "Day 3 Verdict: Leroy Is Completely Broken, Basically A Boss Character"

[@Dylan321321]

Yeah TMM scrounging for them clicks

[@SolidSonicTH]

I've come to agree. His lockdown is insane and getting in on him is almost impossible. He hits you with a blockstring then just goes into a parry stance and waits you out. Getting him out of stance is also very difficult, I've found, and if he stays in stance he can get 50/50s for days and chip and chip away all the while.

[@user-rg7gz5ce5e]

So... they hiddenly added a better version of mokujin lol.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Check that one pre-fight animation of his. Leroy KILLED Mokujin!

[@Prince-Shogun]

For one it's combot actually because he have moves from other fighters, but better frames. Mokujin copies the entire movelist of all characters!

[@Wavy_Godd96]

The Legendary Shogun no he’s wang lol

[@DatBash]

At least he isnt as broken as noctis was at release. Surely they did more testing for this guy then for Noctis/Negan.

[@jetsettech8804]

Uh, I'm going to assume that your skill level in this game isn't too high.

[@DatBash]

@@jetsettech8804 dafuk do you mean... noctis needed 2 moves to win every matchup negan was trash

[@jetsettech8804]

@@DatBash noctis wasn't gonna beat you with two moves

[@DatBash]

@@jetsettech8804 oh yea the pfft ora mixup that was when spaced right unpunishable for half the cast was totally not broken ey?

[@jetsettech8804]

@@DatBash You actually ket noctis beat you with two moves?

[@giuseppegarrubba57]

Wait till he gets an i12 electric

[@Pianet]

Broken boss character maybe, but not quite broken SNK boss syndrome character. He should have a gimmick where the opponents inputs are listed in command history in match. Also He should have an AI that breaks throw and auto blocks lows. Also he might need even more invincibility frame on his genocide cutter. His damage is pretty much at nightmare geese, omega rugal level though.

[@seanblack5789]

He is broken on purpose. Namco want scrubs to buy him..."dominate",and then when all the money is in,will finally get nerfed. Absolutely pathetic.

[@ImArchiie]

So like every other game with buffs and nerfs. Calm down.

[@seanblack5789]

@@ImArchiie fuck of leroy mainer lol. He is broken as all mighty fuck. Quick get ur underserved rank while u can. After scamco gets all the available money from u scubs,he is nerfed

[@bastinelli443]

You sound like a salty Katarina main you stupid bitch

[@Games4Days912]

Also leroy has a 2 piece that the 2nd hit will launch you if you do press back twice while defending. It's crazy bullshit. It's the low kick followed by a wierd looking uppercut. But if you don't repress back to block after the low kick hits you, you're getting launched for 90 damage.

[@blockchainballer4542]

It took 3 whole days. But it seems TMM has finally fought AGAINST Leroy rather than being the one playing him lol.

[@nikmidclayton5933]

I just realized you can tell when Sugar is gonna sit and not attack. The first bark is delayed when she sits.

[@thelast0netillthend]

If i can recall i thoink his parries can block elbows also

[@GrownManPat]

He can parry EVERYTHING

[@maskidle]

if his parries didn’t parry elbows just like asuka’s, it would’ve been fine

[@Mandolin_AU]

Thats how it should be, hands and feet only

[@ADTribalChild]

Nice breakdown. I barely scratched the surface when trying him out yesterday. I haven't played Tekken 7 in a good while and started to get the feel of it again. Good thing I only play casually otherwise I'd be looking at an online losing streak lol

[@actuallystoked]

Earlier: "Top tier but not broken" Now: "Completely broken, basically a boss character"

[@radicalratretro]

i would also add combo after almost every launcher - f+3,1+2,4 b+4 f+f+3 uf+3+4,1+2 to that list, because it has ridiculous wall carry and does like 71 dmg itself after jumping orbital