Top 10 Worst Legendary Creatures to be your Commander

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@Oimfiel
@Oimfiel Жыл бұрын
My favourite bad commander has to be Isao, Enlightened Bushi A mono green samurai commander that lets you regenerate target samurai. Not counting changelings there are five green samurai in the game.
@InsanityBlitz
@InsanityBlitz Жыл бұрын
Made him a Voltron deck, it was terrible mid
@LadyTsunade777
@LadyTsunade777 Жыл бұрын
The same problem also happens with Kentaro, the Smiling Cat. He lets you cast Samurai spells for X, where X is their cmc; basically letting you ignore any colored mana in their mana costs. No need to worry about color fixing. _But_ he's mono-White.
@adriannaranjo4397
@adriannaranjo4397 Жыл бұрын
@@LadyTsunade777 That's hilarious
@juter1122
@juter1122 Жыл бұрын
​@@LadyTsunade777 put him in a 5c deck
@theodorereggiardo77
@theodorereggiardo77 Жыл бұрын
@@LadyTsunade777 Spice8rack did do an impressive Kentaro combo deck, and it looked interesting. So there's at least potential since that mana fixing ability of his can be abused
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE Жыл бұрын
I had to replay 6:46 to make sure I didn’t miss hear rivals of ixalan as rivals of izaelia
@samclark379
@samclark379 Ай бұрын
I was wondering about that, too.
@cax1175
@cax1175 Жыл бұрын
I run a deck with Chandler, from Homelands, as the commander. How many people can say they run a commander who shares their name?
@darthsnarf
@darthsnarf Жыл бұрын
my real name is K'rrik
@AwakenedAvocado
@AwakenedAvocado Жыл бұрын
I run a deck with Chandler from friends. Interestingly, a Chandler means maker of candles.
@cax1175
@cax1175 Жыл бұрын
​@@AwakenedAvocadoMy name comes from the meaning, not the TV show.
@rocksy7156
@rocksy7156 Жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Chandler
@GenesisAkaG
@GenesisAkaG Жыл бұрын
Having my name legally changed would be cheaper than some EDH decks tbh.
@lukasazdanovic6477
@lukasazdanovic6477 11 ай бұрын
Rivals of Izalia caught me off guard, saying Ordic 56 times had me dyyiinngg
@willwithanxbox
@willwithanxbox Жыл бұрын
It's hard to get past how he pronounces cards 😂. Adding an r to Odric is wild. Pronouncing it Or-dic instead of Od-ric
@anthonycobb4867
@anthonycobb4867 Жыл бұрын
He just saying ordic
@xxRaynedonxx
@xxRaynedonxx Жыл бұрын
And rivals of “izalan”
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood Жыл бұрын
not adding, transposing. but yeah the guy is really REALLY bad at reading. Honestly at this point I wonder if this is intentional to get engagement in the comments which figures into the youtube algorithm or if the guy really just has a grade school reading level or massive dyslexia.
@alexrowe9957
@alexrowe9957 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think he's a AI generated voice. Either that, or he does it on purpose to drive engagement
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood Жыл бұрын
@@alexrowe9957 definitely not ai generated, ai would mispronounce things, sure, but it would get the letters and their order right, it wouldn't replace the x with a z in Ixalan or swap the r and d in Odric.
@Oimfiel
@Oimfiel Жыл бұрын
6:46 YGO players really do have problems with names
@marc-antoinepepin8908
@marc-antoinepepin8908 3 күн бұрын
15:19 he constantly said Ordic instead of Odric
@Stinkoman87
@Stinkoman87 Жыл бұрын
How about Brothers Yamakazi? You can have two out at once and if you do get two they both get a decent bonus, but Commanders singleton rule still applies, so in order to turn it on you need a clone effect, which is preciously rare in mono red.
@Synavis
@Synavis Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to figure that one out since I have started playing commander. Cards with my family name are only uncommons :(
@marcusramirez8181
@marcusramirez8181 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually making a commander deck with Brothers and a bunch of red/colorless clone effects
@ReederMG
@ReederMG Жыл бұрын
I came to say the same thing. It's the first card that came to my head when I saw the video title.
@DigiTism
@DigiTism Жыл бұрын
It’s wild to think at some point in time card designers and players didn’t think, “People want to win so it’s a natural tendency for players to put cards in their deck which do the most for the least” and instead thought, “It’s inherently good because it’s duel color. Let’s nerf it!”
@Aliens1337
@Aliens1337 Жыл бұрын
Magic was thought to be an extremely casual game, like friends playing with each others on their kitchen table. The design team didn't balance around meta or card powers, they care more about making cool flavors or unique effects. That was why early Magic has insanely powerful cards like Black Lotus or Time Walk. The designers knew full well that those cards are broken, but they still printed them because they thought casual players would just be getting a random one or two copies in their decks and not getting 4x copies to optimize their chances of drawing those cards. Early early Magic was a lot more different than the modern day hyper competitive Magic.
@Its109TheGamer
@Its109TheGamer Жыл бұрын
6:46 ah yes, my favorite set. Rivals of Izalia How did you butcher Ixalan that hard?
@delathenleso5793
@delathenleso5793 Жыл бұрын
By not playing the game or knowing anything about it.
@Lcngopher
@Lcngopher Жыл бұрын
By not being told the official pronunciation when creating the episode
@Padilla1
@Padilla1 Жыл бұрын
By wanting you to comment about it
@delathenleso5793
@delathenleso5793 Жыл бұрын
@@Padilla1 *shrug* stupidity driving engagement is still stupidity, and the well of sympathy will dry up long before this loser's bills will.
@GizmosMonster
@GizmosMonster 3 ай бұрын
Well.. looking at how Lost Caverns of Ixalan told us that Ojer Axonil is "O-hair Ash-onil" (not perfect, but you get the idea), everyone has pronounced Ixalan incorrectly.
@charlieblocher7456
@charlieblocher7456 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Haakon didn't make the list. He's another commander that suffers for being in the Command Zone.
@Samagachi
@Samagachi Жыл бұрын
He looks like a good card otherwise
@Magnolius22
@Magnolius22 6 ай бұрын
Also iname as one
@Leevodevo
@Leevodevo Ай бұрын
Or phage ?
@marcusthompson3431
@marcusthompson3431 Жыл бұрын
No mention of Haakon, Stromgald Scourge. Who can never be cast if he's your commander and the amount of hoops to get him into your graveyard to cast.
@SergioGarsiaSolano
@SergioGarsiaSolano Жыл бұрын
They let out a lot of cards like the grandeur legends than need copies of themselves to be able to use they're better effects but let odric in f second place because "hE wAs A lEtDoWn" This list was a joke
@cartervaill3043
@cartervaill3043 Жыл бұрын
He was the first card that came to mind when I saw this video. When I first started playing magic I tried to design a haakon deck because a graveyard knight tribal would be so cool until I realized he couldn't be cast from the command zone
@Millardfunderburg
@Millardfunderburg Жыл бұрын
Ah, sad little Haakon, the commander with an interesting effect but has effectively banned himself from ever being a commander in Commander.
@raynmanshorts9275
@raynmanshorts9275 Жыл бұрын
When I played paper Magic, my play group was the rec room at Job Corps. The rec advisor that was the entire reason why there was a Magic play group in the first place had a Haakon deck (not EDH, just a standard 60 card deck). Because I didn't understand about discard or self-mill at the time, I didn't get how it was even possible to play him.
@Tealmaker
@Tealmaker Жыл бұрын
What does EDH mean?
@jameshonaker585
@jameshonaker585 6 ай бұрын
Omitting the legendary creature you literally are unable to cast from the command zone in Haakon, Stromgald Scourge is...an interesting decision. It's a strong card but a massive albatross in the Command zone.
@ASCP_Certified
@ASCP_Certified Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a list of potential commanders for my 2 power level groups.
@Dovirr
@Dovirr Жыл бұрын
Take a drink every time Odric's name gets butchered. 🥃💀⚰
@DatShepTho
@DatShepTho Жыл бұрын
Bleughhh
@kozad86
@kozad86 6 ай бұрын
Fuuuu... my bottle is empty now. :( Seriously, how someone gonna do an MTG channel and not even try to pronounce stuff? Dude also calls Slivers "silvers" instead, as if they're a purse of coins.
@josephrobertson5445
@josephrobertson5445 Жыл бұрын
Cho-Manno at least combos with Pariah and Pariah shield, both of which white can search. Haakon meanwhile definitely deserves a spot on this list, for being literally impossible to cast from the command zone, so you have to tutor out a card to add him to hand and then discard him to do literally anything.
@MegaGrip13
@MegaGrip13 Жыл бұрын
Was literally about to comment this. Cho-Manno has a few prison style soft locks you can do with him.
@ellieofthebeast7952
@ellieofthebeast7952 Жыл бұрын
Was gonna comment exactly this. I have a friend who built this deck, and it was busted.
@Narakiomal
@Narakiomal Жыл бұрын
Phage may be a super bizarre card but I have always loved her ever since I opened her up back in 10th edition so she has a soft spot in my heart (also the whole lore behind her as Jeska and Karona is so good) I just can't help but love her and have a super fucked up and trolly "gift away" deck o her XD.
@obliviouslich1722
@obliviouslich1722 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of those decks? Have the card list anywhere to see?
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood Жыл бұрын
Phage and endless whispers, with phyrexian reclamation to replay her and any sac outlet
@7ItalianStallion
@7ItalianStallion Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember when she first came out in Legions. I pulled Akroma and my friend pulled Phage. The story was really cool I had the books from the fat packs. Kamahl was badass too and how Akroma was created by Ixidor 😁
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood Жыл бұрын
@@7ItalianStallion i miss the books coming with the product.
@njmfff
@njmfff 9 ай бұрын
@@7ItalianStallion Phage was my first rare from Legions, and I used her in my reanimator deck. There was this enchantment that reanimated creatures from graveyard under next player's turn, so if you Entomb her she reanimates under their control next turn and this triggers her ability and they lose game because they didn't play her from hand. Also I use to have her red barb variant and Kamahl in both red and green variant. Green druid Kamahl was dope, he had built-in Overrun, which I used in my beast deck, but sometimes swap him into my joke squirrel deck. It's all fun and games till bunch of squirrel tokens Overrun you.
@UsaSatsui
@UsaSatsui Жыл бұрын
This list went from "cards that are bad in Commander because of the nature of the format" to "just bad cards" surprisingly quick. I mean, Nana Sengir is bad, yes, but you can play her and she does stuff. Haakon, on the other hand...
@SergioGarsiaSolano
@SergioGarsiaSolano Жыл бұрын
They didn't even mentioned all the commanders that lose effects because commander doesn't let you play copies of cards like the grandeur commanders, the old mishra or dragon lord kolaghan
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Жыл бұрын
The top three feel odd. Considering how most of them are cards that don't properly function in the command zone or on the battlefield, I expected Brothers Yamazaki; Haakon, Stromgald Scourge; or any of the Grandeur commanders.
@willmiller1179
@willmiller1179 Жыл бұрын
"Ordic" now lives rent free in my head
@ianford9221
@ianford9221 Жыл бұрын
ordic is my fave character from innistrad
@GCWeber
@GCWeber Жыл бұрын
I feel like framing this as a ranking instead of just "here's some bad commanders" was a bad idea. yeah yeah yeah top 10s are good in the algorithm I know but. like... realistically Barktooth and Cho-Manno are by far the worst cards on this list, but the top 10 format means that putting them at the top is anticlimactic so instead top 2 went to grandmother Sengir, which is pretty bad but definitely not the worst card on this list, and Odric, Blood-Cursed which... honestly why is he on this list? Yeah sure I get the disappointment factor but like... is that really enough to put him on a list of the worst of the worst? Also "blood tokens aren't good enough to build around unless you have some other way to make use of them"... that's... that's covered by "building around them", my guy. That's like saying Krenko is bad because a bunch of 1/1s that don't have haste are too slow unless you have some other way to use them by means of damage triggers like impact tremors or sac outlets like goblin bombardment. That's... that's the entire point.
@taylor3621
@taylor3621 Жыл бұрын
Surprised to not see the Myojin on this list. They're basically just overcosted spirits in the Command zone
@fyreaxis4938
@fyreaxis4938 Жыл бұрын
Isamaru, Hound of Konda could have been on this list. A 2/2 as a one drop is a great rate, but having this card take up your command zone is bad. Anything after the first cast is just a feelsbad.
@danielgreenwood793
@danielgreenwood793 Жыл бұрын
Isamaru could be voltroned, his low cost makes it easy to resummon and re equip when it gets blow up.
@WeatherWeasel66
@WeatherWeasel66 8 ай бұрын
he is mispronouncing OH...dricks name...for some reason he keeps calling him OR...dik
@oakforgeminiatures7862
@oakforgeminiatures7862 21 күн бұрын
Because its obviously Odd-Rick.
@jjmc4678
@jjmc4678 Ай бұрын
Kongming, "sleeping dragon", 2w and 2any for a 2/2 with a +1/+1 anthem, that's all
@MaestroAlvis
@MaestroAlvis Жыл бұрын
9:46 they really need an overcosted sorcery that puts a commander directly into your hand
@dyciefisk2535
@dyciefisk2535 Жыл бұрын
There are actually multiple cards that do so, most of them are permanents so they can be used multiple times. Edit: Those that I can see are Campfire, Command Beacon, Netherborn Altar, Road of Return. Although that last one is off-colour.
@ClockworkEngineer
@ClockworkEngineer Жыл бұрын
What kind of crazy pills are you on to say Grandma Sengir is worse than a card that literally makes you lose the game.
@vigortarnowski6614
@vigortarnowski6614 Жыл бұрын
....A cicle of elder dinos from rivals of.... WHAT? xD
@matteorossi1172
@matteorossi1172 Жыл бұрын
>be odric >be my favourite character >have 0 good cards
@MM-lv7iy
@MM-lv7iy Жыл бұрын
Video idea: The best lands in Commander… that are terrible in every other format. Honorable mentions to lands that are designed to work in Commander, obviously, but there are a few that aren’t specifically intended that way that could be considered.
@dylanvolckaert404
@dylanvolckaert404 Жыл бұрын
You actually can put plains, mountains and islands in a bortuk deck. The colored icon on basic land icons is in the reminder text, which is jot part of the card text. Thia is for the same reason you can use cards with extort in konowhite or black decks.
@Bubben246
@Bubben246 11 ай бұрын
Incorrect. The 5 basic land types each contribute to color identity.
@KnicKnac
@KnicKnac Жыл бұрын
“You can tap grandma” no thanks I’d rather not
@EmeraldCrowley
@EmeraldCrowley Жыл бұрын
6:46 I'm sorry, rivals of WHAT?
@Daniel-mo7bj
@Daniel-mo7bj Жыл бұрын
Top 10 Cards that contradict the story? There were a lot of those cards in MoM
@Stinkoman87
@Stinkoman87 Жыл бұрын
Angrath, Captain of Chaos. Has Amass, so you would think he's on Bolas' side, but hes still a good guy. (Angrath has this problem a lot; many of his cards make him seem kind of villainous, but he's always just wanted to get back to his family).
@erlanddrow7950
@erlanddrow7950 Жыл бұрын
While I disagree with Ordic being number 2, there is also the fact some of the keywords won't be in your deck. How many Hexproof, Reach and Deathtouch creatures are you running in a Red/White deck?
@tobyh.6713
@tobyh.6713 9 ай бұрын
Seeing Niambi, Faithful Healer on this list is hilarious, seeing as my Niambi deck is one of those 100 or so decks on EDHREC. And like, it's not THAT bad. It works pretty well for a Teferi Tribal deck comnander, which is kinda one of the main purposes of choosing Niambi for me at least.
@jessewinter5826
@jessewinter5826 Жыл бұрын
Hajar, Loyal Bodyguard should be on this list. Low mana cost aside, there are better ways to give creatures indestructible without having to worry about commander tax.
@Fangs-jo4bq
@Fangs-jo4bq Жыл бұрын
Top ten Voltron commander.
@adam122352
@adam122352 Жыл бұрын
When he said Izellia I was positive I stroked out
@Largeguuy
@Largeguuy Жыл бұрын
It’s ixilan omg 😂
@lilllithjaxxle
@lilllithjaxxle Жыл бұрын
A bad commander that I feel should have made this list is Dragonlord Kolaghan, the secondary ability to deal damage to an opponent to casted a card with the same name as something in their graveyard is 99% of the time not going to trigger since the commander format is singleton having two cards with the same name is almost impossible except for the small number of decks that can run multiple copies like Relentless Rats, Dragon’s Approach, Shadowborn Apostle, and Persistent Perstioners.
@theangrycolossal
@theangrycolossal Жыл бұрын
I had an idea for a joke deck where the idea was to get as much mana as possible as quickly as possible and 'win' by playing Phage on turn 1 (you'd need a very specific opening hand to make this work and 'winning' would be very inconsistent)
@torismegistos7111
@torismegistos7111 Жыл бұрын
I tried it with dark ritual, a 0 cost creature, myr moonvessel and culling the weak, play swamp, cast ritual, 3 mana, one for myr vessel, one for another ritual, 4 black mana, cast culling the weak, 3 mana, myr dies, 4 mana, culling resolves, , 8 mana, cast phage and you get 1 floating mana for those pesky tax counters! People.laugh when i can pull it off
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 Жыл бұрын
An "OTK" if you will
@solbradguy7628
@solbradguy7628 Жыл бұрын
Phage was one of the most fun commanders I ever built around. Not great if your objective is to win a lot of games but very fun. And you can definitely win some games occasionally (or at least get some cheesy kills a little more often).
@dyne313
@dyne313 Жыл бұрын
I love the puzzle of getting Phage into play without losing.
@NataliaNeeSama
@NataliaNeeSama Жыл бұрын
Phage is cluncky but I love her! Even if she is not that powerful, she is the scariest thing in a table when you somehow manage to pull her out and give her shroud or indestructable. It is so funny to see people nuking a whole table just because Phage is there. While she is not ideal, she is very fun to try to make her work.
@njmfff
@njmfff 9 ай бұрын
Back in the day I had mono-black deck, which had Phage, Visara, 4 black knights, unholy strength, 4 terrors, pestilence, Undead Gladiator, Corruption, Mutilation and Nightmare. It was super fun deck. Then Mirrodin came in and completely mess up the game (alto some might say it saved MTG by speeding it up), and bunch of people that use to play quit, including me, because power creep was insane, most previous sets couldn't keep up with Mirrodin.
@speedfactor
@speedfactor Жыл бұрын
No mention of Taniwha or Shimatsu, the Bloodcloaked?
@waffleiron3695
@waffleiron3695 3 ай бұрын
Taniwha Easily worse than anything on the list, its baffling
@ARage5
@ARage5 Жыл бұрын
My brother in Christ the person who scripted this vid needs to be fired, there are legends out there that do literally nothing since they need multiple copies of cards to exist. They also could have used all the two mana uncommon domain legends from dom unite, and good ol Ordick at the end shouldn't be higher than #10 on the list
@astuteanansi4935
@astuteanansi4935 21 күн бұрын
Every Myojin only enters with a divinity/indestructible counter if you played it *from your hand.* There are only two cards that give divinity counters (the colorless That Which Was Taken and the white Kindred Boon), and not that many cards that give indestructible counters either (Tyrite Sanctum, a scant few white cards and the black Daring Fiendbonder). They can also represent a cool deckbuilding challenge, since if you manage to get a Myojin *with* a counter into play it's hard to remove and you can then go ham with proliferation effects to spam the super powerful ability. But without that counter they are insanely overpriced vanilla creatures
@astuteanansi4935
@astuteanansi4935 20 күн бұрын
Cho-Manno is not great, but you actually missed the one thing he is normally used for. The decks that run him usually outfit him with Pariah or Pariah's Shield in order to redirect all damage to him and effectively become immune to damage. Then protect him from removal with auras and eventually just win with something like Approach of the Second Sun.
@ZionofSkullNationPPF
@ZionofSkullNationPPF 20 күн бұрын
my fav is Ramses Overdark, you pay 2UUBB for a 4/3 Legendary Human Assassin from Legends that Taps: Destroy Target Enchanted Creature. He is really bad but fun
@Turn140
@Turn140 6 ай бұрын
I've been getting into commander and I've been looking through all my old magic cards from the 90s. And the 2000s and I. Specifically remember picking up Grandma. I was like wow. She sounds like a funny name for commander and then I read her abilities and I was like wow. That just it's awful
@tylerantony7399
@tylerantony7399 10 күн бұрын
Allowing commanders to be lower ranked because of their "joke utility" makes a sort of paradox in ranking these lists. This is because, after everybody agrees that Grandmother Sengir is the new worst commander, then SHE gains "joke utility", thereby reducing her rank, so that then the #2 worst commander becomes the new #1 worst commander, but then THAT card gains "joke utility", etc. etc.
@Mississippi_Jack
@Mississippi_Jack 2 ай бұрын
Phage absolutely doesn't deserve to be on this list. Tarpor Orb, Platinum Angel, Campfire, Command Beacon, Stunning Reversal, Sundial of the Infinite, and Netherborn Altar can all stop you from losing the game with Phage ETB or let you put it directly into your hand instead of casting it from the command zone. Phage itself also definitely pays you off for getting it into play since it will pretty much always be a massive threat.
@georgeneuman488
@georgeneuman488 7 ай бұрын
I think we liked these underpowered cards like Barktooth back then because players were mostly a bunch of dorky kids who were like "COOL THESE CARDS ARE GOLD!!!" and that was as far as our thought process went.
@InquisitorSinCross
@InquisitorSinCross Жыл бұрын
Phage is amazing in the 99. Phage + Fractured Identity = gg
@dyne313
@dyne313 Жыл бұрын
Phage is fun as your commander. I know from experience.
@anotherrogue8371
@anotherrogue8371 2 ай бұрын
My bad commander of choice is Kentaro, the Smiling Cat. His effect makes samurai creatures cost their CMC in generic mana, which would be cool for mana fixing, except he's mono white. You can do some funny things with cost reduction and lands that make colourless though if you really want to build around him.
@GenocideHeart
@GenocideHeart 2 ай бұрын
Dakkon Blackblade and Gwendlyn di Corci were actually pretty good in Legends. Sol'kanar was decent as well. And these days, Livonya Silone (first strike, legendary landwalk) would also see use.
@Ryan98391
@Ryan98391 15 күн бұрын
Great! Now I want to make a "Phage the Untouchable" mono black commander deck that's built around never playing Phage...
@clementb6963
@clementb6963 3 ай бұрын
meh, would have been more intersting to take commanders that makes you want totry to play with, but just doesn't work. Phage ....... Is there any video that doesn't talk about her now ?
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 Жыл бұрын
You could run Granny Sengir in a Vhati Il-Dal deck I suppose. Vhati can get a creatures toughness to 1 so Granny here can actually kill it and green has LOTS of untappers. Still not GOOD by any means but... somewhat useable. I would argue that Veldrane is actually worse. You either have a 7 mana vanilla 5/5 OR a 10 mana unblocable 2/5. Without activating his ability he can be chumped by anything. WITH activating his ability you're only chipping someone for 2.
@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat
@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat 2 ай бұрын
From Top onwards this list is a mess. The Commander that looses you the game when you play it is number 5 and 4-1 is just filled with genericly bad creatures, where only 4 has a commanderspefic downside
@SeleenShadowpaw
@SeleenShadowpaw 6 ай бұрын
I have a tetzimoc aristocrats-y deck with a lot of the cheap return to hand reviva and sac outlets. The deck works very well on it's own, and tetzimoc is just a very reliable selective boardwipe that's only mildly clunky to get going the first time. It's far from competetively viable mind you, but it is pretty high power and more than pulls it's weight. I give you that he isn't a combo piece just living in the command zone, but i don't think he deserves a spot on worst commanders of all time :D
@Draqson
@Draqson 9 ай бұрын
Hmm I expected "Mishra, Artificer Prodigy" to make the list, his whole effect is about searching copies of artifacts you play, which is pointless in a Highlander-Deck.
@munchrai6396
@munchrai6396 Ай бұрын
Is Blood Cursed the only dual colored version of Odric. If so, it might be worth using simply to give the deck more options than just white spells because it does still fit the theme even if its weaker
@psych0CS2
@psych0CS2 2 ай бұрын
Running Phage as a commander is not only a flex but downright *Insulting* to everyone at the table. If you win with Phage, your opponent is going to have to get a new identity and leave the country due to the overwhelming embarrassment of losing to a card that when in the command zone, should have flavor text that says "skill issue" and nothing else
@delathenleso5793
@delathenleso5793 Жыл бұрын
@6:50 LMAO "Rivals of Izalia" Dude, do you even *play* the game? Or know anything about it? Yeah, I get it, Ixalan was a pretty bad block, but not even knowing how to pronounce it is a new low, even for you Commander series.
@408JMP
@408JMP Жыл бұрын
@Manalogs, I'm kind of disappointed with this one. There are at least 10 other creatures that could have fit between the best and worst on this list. The myojins, harkon, and a number of creatures that have either bad or no effects. Odric provides a little value for an ETB, but there is value to be had and a vanilla 3/3 for 3 is not a bad rate, compared to some of the 1994 legends. And Cho-man has a very unique ability. Is it over-costed? Yes? Is it worse than some of the 1994 legends? No. Same goes for the #1 spots on the list, there are much worse cards out there, even if people aren't building with the ones you put on your list. I do want to say thank you, as I appreciate and am entertained by these videos, and I've been watching since the Dual Logs days. Your videos are quite good, and usually quite informative, and I appreciate the content you put out.
@wurdulac923
@wurdulac923 Жыл бұрын
EDIT: Nevermind, I guess Wastes is a basic land, but does not count as a type of basic land. Ignore everything else in this post as it is incorrect; I will leave it up as a monument to my failure. It's not great, but you can also run Wastes in your Bortuk deck for a colorless basic land, letting you return a three drop alongside your (at first) six drop 4/4 Commander. So I guess that's an option?
@shinyflygon8883
@shinyflygon8883 2 ай бұрын
The combo to get out The Unspeakable doesn’t work if The Unspeakable is in the command zone as it gets it from the library.
@Axel9631
@Axel9631 3 ай бұрын
I lost it when he kept saying Ordic over and over again. I will never use his name right now My favorite commander is Gonti, it makes people mad but I don't play to win, gimme the salt!
@MageSkeleton
@MageSkeleton Жыл бұрын
Cho Manno and Odric i feel could had been up higher like be the 9th and 8th positions. Cho Manno is interesting because he cannot be damaged. This is not that insignificant. Odric blood cursed (and i disagree with him becoming a vampire WotC) while his ETB may seem underwhelming, your getting alot of "free" blood tokens depending on what different keywords you have on the field. When you find out how many reanimation spells there are and "flicker" spells in just white you can do some really interesting things with him creating blood tokens WHICH also upon paying one mana allow you to discard a card and draw a card. The problem when he was released was just that he didn't do much with the blood tokens.
@venkelos6996
@venkelos6996 Жыл бұрын
I was expecting to see the original Mishra, or maybe a stand in with a similarly limited effect, as EDH, being a singleton format, makes their effects moot, but oh well. I eas definitely expecting to see Phage, and I'm still sad she's there, though it's obvious why.
@Trip_Fontaine
@Trip_Fontaine Жыл бұрын
Phage is my vote for worst card ever printed, largely because of when it came out. This was before the days of Commander and Modern. Standard was the most popular format in those days. And the top deck in Standard when Phage was printed was a cycling deck based around Astral Slide and similar cards. If you cast Phage, and your opponent has an Astral Slide, you lose the game on the spot. And cycling decks by their very nature could easily cycle cards to find a copy of Astral Slide. "You can't cast this card if you are facing the most popular deck" is an absolutely insane drawback for something you are paying 7 mana for to have.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
Do best/worst Oathbreakers. And best/worst Commander pairings.
@phyrexian_dude4645
@phyrexian_dude4645 Жыл бұрын
You want bad, disapointing and screwed by commander rules? Brothers Yamazaki is the card for you. You can only play only 1 because it doesnt have any "mutiple copies of this card in you deck" clause, so 1/3 of the card is lost if you dont play copy creature effects. Because its red, most if not all copy effects wont stay for long. Because it was the Ye olde days, Partner was not a thing so you cant play them like that unless your table allows it. And finally it was terrible stats alone, so so with another Yamazaki and has Bushido, which most of the time its a pointless ability.
@jaceg810
@jaceg810 Жыл бұрын
While I do think all of these cards have problems, the legends commanders probably should be behind all the janky cards that can't use their gimmick, but still pass the vanilla test (like Tetzimoc) then again, being multi colored is an upside, so maybe they are better.
@hunterstrong3318
@hunterstrong3318 2 ай бұрын
Horobi was one of my favorite build around challenge commanders at how niche u gotta make ur deck to optimize him while playing around his double edged sword ability that makes opponents all to eager to waste a simple target ability on a crearure to kill him
@BioniDude
@BioniDude Жыл бұрын
Completely missed the mark on “O d r i c”. He’s built as a keyword flicker commander with cards like All That Glitters to reward for the absolute gaggle of near-useless artifacts he pumps out. Aether grid and other cards turn it from disappointment to a sneakily strong pile.
@vonmatrices
@vonmatrices Жыл бұрын
Odric at number 2 is wrong. Number 3 is a commander that literally does nothing. Just being 2 colors bumps Odric up a bit. And blood tokens can be better in the future. Its not a good commander but putting it at second worst over The Unspeakable and whatever the mono white commander was seems like a personal grief and not an objective rank.
@zackbonno3675
@zackbonno3675 Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked you didn't mention Baru, Fist of Krosia, Korlash Heir to Blackblade, OG mishra or Kotose, the silent spider, all cards that are literally useless in commander, the one minor exception being Kotose can hose rat colony style decks
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a Жыл бұрын
> green often struggles with fliers Uhhh, didn't green get removals of "creatures with flying" every now and then? And also spiders with reach? I'd say green, while not having many fliers itself, has more than enough answers to fliers.
@gremlinfriend6956
@gremlinfriend6956 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to build a “fuck your fliers” deck with Arashi, The Sky Asunder. Run creatures with reach, every single plummet effect, etc. a silly meme deck
@902496
@902496 Жыл бұрын
I don't think cho-manno deserved to be so high up. Its not a good card, but it has decent enough ability and there are ways to abuse it in mono white, namely, enchantments like Pariah that redirect all damage dealt to you to the enchanted creature. That way cho doesn't have to block to act as an "unkillable blocker" and he can effectively block infinite attackers as you just declare no blocks and redirect all the damage from all the creatures. Its still not good. There are still tons of better mono white commanders out there, but I'd say its better than the meme legends. It at least has an ability, and is pretty easy to cast even if it is still overcosted. Also, how did you miss Haakon Stromgald scourge, who literally can't be played from the command zone?
@SwedeRacerDC
@SwedeRacerDC Жыл бұрын
How is Phage not the worst on this list though? I mean, yeah, you can jump through hoops, but it's easy for your opponents to plan for that. Sure it's a deckbuilding challenge, but you're basically going to lose
@Danothyus1
@Danothyus1 Жыл бұрын
no Haakon stromgald scourge? The most convoluted commander in history to play. You need to send him from the command zone to your hand, so you can send him to the graveyard, and them you can finally put him in play. His effect is at best decent, and he still have a drawback of shocking you every time he dies.
@gamerofknowledgeandmore426
@gamerofknowledgeandmore426 22 күн бұрын
Bro, I thought you pronouncing Archfiend as Archafiend was bad but after hearing you pronounce Ixalan as Izalia and Odric as Ordic makes me glad I'm not subscribed
@TheDraakheated
@TheDraakheated 15 күн бұрын
boretuk bonerattle about to make a comeback with the ''everything'' lands!!!!!!
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood Жыл бұрын
5:39 Gonna hard disagree with you there. Green does get access to flying creatures least often, but it is one of the best colors at dealing with flying, mono green has hundreds of cards with reach, which each other mono and colorless has a couple dozen at most, green also has the most flying hate cards like Silklash Spider, Hurricane and plummet. While a lot of these aren't really going to see much play because people can' guarantee they will face flying, green does have by far the most non flyer options for dealing with flying creatures.
@SwedeRacerDC
@SwedeRacerDC Жыл бұрын
Ok, I run a mono white Odric deck, and this pronunciation is like nails on a chalkboard. Even if it's for the worst Odric, I tend to hear it pronounced like Odd-Rick. Or Oh-Drik.
@luciaphenn
@luciaphenn Жыл бұрын
This top just feels weird. Why putting all the « just bad creatures » at 10 but Sengir at 1 ? Haakon and other missing, and the order seems out of ground
@eXJonSnow
@eXJonSnow Ай бұрын
I actually run a Phage deck and, while definitely a bit janky, it can be pretty threatening. Using cards that prevent Phage’s ETB from killing you is really more of a plan B. I tend to try and get Phage into my hand from the command zone (Command Beacon, Campfire, etc), then cast her from hand. Black is the best tutoring color, so with that and some good card draw, you can pretty reliably find the cards you need to get Phage into your hand or prevent your death from casting her from the command zone. Haste enablers (namely the three sets of footwear) make it so that Phage is immediately threatening as soon as you play her, especially if you also have some evasion. Also, since it’s mono-black, you can run a good amount of edicts, wraths, and removal to hold other people back until you play Phage. Cards like K’rrik, Crypt Ghast, and Cabal Coffers also give you plenty of ramp, so it’s not like you’re actually waiting until turn 7 to play Phagealicious. I’ve goldfished it a bunch and it can threaten player kills as early as turns 3-4, though in practice, she usually drops around 5-6.
@SwedeRacerDC
@SwedeRacerDC Жыл бұрын
All of the Kamigawa Myojin that need to be cast from your hand to work should also be on this list. They are some of the worst commanders. I actually think this Odric, though he may be pretty bad, can be underrated and has uses. You can filter a ton with him to get through your deck if you build it right and even get to the Lumarch Marshal to make all your creatures have all the abilities out there. But the Myojin are even worse than a lot of the cards that want to be in your hand from this list because they cost so much
@henke37
@henke37 Жыл бұрын
Yes, explain basic concepts like Flying, but don't explain what Commander is.
@Jundsac
@Jundsac 2 ай бұрын
Spoilers! I almost feel like I'm watching the video in reverse. All of the worst ones at the end have abilities, and the list started with Vanillas that don't past the vanilla test
@matteorossi1172
@matteorossi1172 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe he said: "Rivals from Isalian" 6:46 Bro took 5 minutes to eplain why phage the untouchable is a bad commander
@noahandrulis9077
@noahandrulis9077 4 ай бұрын
16:17 preach! My favorite commander deck is still my Odric, Master Tactician deck.
@TheKingNaesala
@TheKingNaesala Жыл бұрын
"Ordic, Ordic, Ordic" It's ODRIC please slow down and proofread T_T
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Ай бұрын
Cho mano was my favourite card when I began Magic, and it had a synergy with Pariah which deals any damages inflited to you to one creature. It sounded very strong to 13 years old me, and it was generally a win con against badly constructed blue and green decks that my siblings played XD
@RockZerr
@RockZerr 4 ай бұрын
to be fair, in commander it is an upside to be multicolored. having more colors for a lower stats is easily worth in commander
@GellyVelly
@GellyVelly Жыл бұрын
I'd say Veldrane is WAY worse than Grandmother. I mean Grandmother is terrible but she at least does "something" and costs 2 less.
@magicalgirlanime
@magicalgirlanime Жыл бұрын
At least the Elder Dragon cycle is why we have Elder Dragon Highlander to begin with. And Nicol Bolas was sort of alright.
@armygamelover
@armygamelover 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn't Bortuk be able to get a 5 cost creature? You could run swamp, snow swamp, forest, snow forest, and waste.
@WIBYTIEDH
@WIBYTIEDH 6 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think Sengir deserved the #1 spot on this. Whether it's in order or not, the fact that she can work with Horobi, Death's Wail and the new Massacre Girl can enable her to draw you cards when she kills things isn't anything to sneeze at. There's also lots of cards that can let you untap her and black ramp is bananas. I've actually squeaked out wins with her because of how ignored she is. "There aren't that many ways to untap her in mono black" Thousand-Year Elixir, Puppet Strings, Staff of Domination, Magewright's Stone, Patriar's Seal, Thornbite Staff, and Umbral Mantle would all like to have a word 😉
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