The 5 Fists of Yang Style Taiji Quan (Part 1) | Sifu Liang De Hua | Season 2 Episode 05

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[@ragemydream]

Great video. It's always difficult to show what an internal Kung Fu can do, but Liang De Hua at least shows glimpses without having to feel it directly.

[@briansprock2248]

Thank You Sifu Liang and Kieren.

[@arc3075]

I don’t remember in what book I read this statement by Y.Cheng fu: “He was asked how is it that so many martial artists sought him out for instructions. Without trying to challenge him to a fight. He said the trick was to accept their challenge and only to push them. But push them in such a way as to have them exclaim; Shifu, could you do that again.” This was his way of spreading knowledge without harming anyone. Truly excellent comment as to Yang Chen Fu honorable character.

[@joshpickles9022]

He was a great man but you should know Shifu Liang doesn't come from that lineage :-)

[@Gieszkanne]

Actually Yang Cheng Fu was quite brutal. You can read it from Cheng Manching or rather inderectly from Lowenthal. Also he only get into his 50ies. He had great skill but isnt a good role model. His uncle Yang Banhou also only made it into his 50ies and was so brutal that he only had a few disciples.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

Yang Chen Fu was the worst of all the yang family masters, when his father died and he became the leniage holder many senior students of his father that were better then him left and whent their own way ,did not recognize Chen Fu as the grand master because they were better then him, Chen Man Ching his student sucked he had no real fajing he pushed using physical force not fajing, not a high level master at all

[@Gieszkanne]

@@jamesanagnos6123 I have read this also in Stuard Olsons book on Yang Taiji but how come that his son Yang Shou-chung was famous for very high skill and also his disciples like Chu Gin-soon and Ip Tai Tak. Some say also his daugter Mary is very good. What I have read from others Yang Chengfu had a very high skill. And Cheng Manching had internal power also.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@Gieszkanne ok let me say this, first famous does not mean someone is really good or correct in what he does, secondly it is not what the yang family tree instructors say about them selves and the praise they give them selves that matters ,it is what others say about them that matters most, master Wang Xiang Zhai founder of Yi Quan and the man that traveld the whole country of china north and south for 40 years fighting everyone in his path had this to say after 40 years i found only 2 real masters in China , one was a Xing I master the other was a Liu he ba fa master, as far as the Tai chi masters he said this, the Yang brothers are good friends of mine and the best of the tai chi practitioners in china but please dont try to use this art in combat for even a opponent with not much skill will defeat you, tai chi has lost its intuitive instinct for combat a long time ago, this is from the master who beat most everyone, and third about Chen Man Ching and if he had internal power or not, just look at some videos of him pushing people using what is supost to be fajing, he is using his legs and body pushing and bearly moving his student , videos are available of him on youtube take a look , and if you want to see Real fajing take a look at David Chan liu he ba fa fajing, his body never moves ,real internal force ging is throwing the student to a matress on the wall, look at both masters and you tell me who has internal force , you will see what im talking about

[@souvikmukherjee2349]

The things that Sifu showed here actually is taught and understood easily from Wing Chun form practices and just studying theories, concepts of various means.. But Tai Chi forms combine all that stuff and puch them together.. So In such haphazard practices, a good teacher is always needed to clean every single segment out much more than Wing Chun forms.. He is really teaching lifetime moves.. My standing ovation goes for him and of course you uncle-The Martial Man🙏🙏

[@jamesanagnos6123]

wing chun would lose to eveyrone in combat , accept for bruce lee movies ofcource lol

[@souvikmukherjee2349]

@@jamesanagnos6123 😮Thanks for saving lives of millions of Wing Chun people across the world that they are wasting their time. Your wisdom is so useful that it touched my heart. Your thoughts,wisdom,philosophy of fighting is probably superior to all arts of Asia specially Wing Chun right??Please express that here I would to glad to have that. Thanks for all your advice 🙏🙏

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@souvikmukherjee2349 My Art is Asian, Liu He Ba Fa, a style that has never lost to any chinese or other style , its suprerior in every way to anything you practice , your style is peasant kung fu for the masses , my style was only practiced by royalty and sages not open door to the public, live and learn lol

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@souvikmukherjee2349 as far as wing chun goes , just read what Wang Xiang Zhai had to say about all short hand and long hand systems lol enough said , he traveled the country of China for 40 years and kicked the living shit out of everyone accept for two master he called the only 2 real masters in China, wing chun was not one of them lol

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@@souvikmukherjee2349 Now let me really save your life, Olive leaf extract kills every virus know to man, take two capcles a day and stay safe from the corona virus Wuhan Flue , spread the word and stay well

[@HoangTruong-ij4sm]

Thank you very much Sifu. Student from Sydney, Australia.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Welcome!!

[@SI-ln6tc]

Thank you for the simplification. This is what is needed in tai chi.

[@Livingtree32]

Why?

[@fallingleaveskungfu]

Thanks for making the whole part one available. Definitely looks like a dude with some skill.

[@abdulshamte3325]

Nice program

[@jamespisano1164]

Thanks for sharing! Awesome sauce!

[@alfyfajing251]

Hello Martial Man! You got one of the best and most interesting Channels on KZbin!! Great! Thank you for that!

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Alfy FaJing Thank you for your feedback, I aspire to make to it even better in the future

[@dalename3233]

I would love to train some with Sifu, even though I'm old now. The real deal, thanks for your sharing.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Welcome!

[@TimeFactorTrader]

looks like taichi allows the practitioner to control the mass of an opponent and follow up with a punch.. nice combo

[@strangelaw6384]

or control the mass of an opponent on contact (if opponent likes to wrestle) and follow up with a punch when both are locked up together

[@DomenicDatti]

Well done. I'm glad to see someone talking about striking in Taijiquan too. If you're going to fight someone, you have to hurt them somehow... you can't just control their energy for hours hoping they give up!

[@thenecrons100]

Domenic Datti By controlling his energy correctly he is KO :) 'controlling enegrgy" does not mean only follow him and neutralize his attacks. What is taught in Tai chi in the beginning, and what you can see on youtube, is indeed, beginner matter

[@DomenicDatti]

Understood. A lot of what you see on youtube is push hands and connected practice, which is essential, yet only part of the picture. There are 3 ways to stop an attacker: knock them out, lock them out, or give them what they want. My comment about controlling vs. striking was meant to say that you can not rely on dumping energy and defending constantly to stop an attacker. You have to either knock them out or lock them out, or they're going to keep trying to get what they want and may eventually get it. So it's not so much about striking vs. controlling energy as it is about mindset. Defense vs. offense. There should be no defense, but merely counter offense.

[@TAOIST-SORCERY]

To me, The highest level is opponent know You can kill him if You want to.. but You just play him around like a toy without hurting him and he surrender himself.

[@alexi9108]

Same is true for Aikido, for example. 99.9999% of what you may find on yuotube is either the very early beginner matter or falsely understood aikido, practiced incorrectly. If fact the swooping circular movements of beginner level must be contracted into points. Applied aikido is offensive and aggressive.

[@joelfriedman8422]

Domenic Datti i

[@spinningdragontao]

We have two arms, two legs, elbows, knees, one head, This pretty much sums up the human beings weapons without any use of tools. there is no attack that one style can use that no other style (or no style) cannot use. It's not what you do nut how you do it that matters. Street fighters are just as dangerous as any long standing martial artist if not more so because they are combat experienced often more so than any of the martial artists and on the street it's always real if not always very good. I've been doing Tai Chi Chuan for 38 years and whilst I don't disagree with these five fists I would not agree that they are all that Tai Chi Chuan has or uses. I respect Liang De Hua, he is a man of skill. Obviously here he is speaking in a second language which will greatly hinder his communication and therefore he's probably not explaining everything as well as he would in his mother tongue. Respects to him for this exchange.

[@daymaker5460]

Excellent video! Is it possible to learn to move people across the room with little effort like this gentleman does? I have seen it before.

[@Napalm6b]

Find a tai chi teacher who is teaching at least push hands with a focus on applying and neutralizing techniques. Someone that is teaching tai chi chuan -- with the chuan/fist included, not just tai chi for health

[@blockmasterscott]

Some of these comments saying this is useless in real fighting are hilarious. For example his "fist and elbow" at 4:46 is basic boxing 101. You also see it in so many MMA fights, one hand in a fist with the lead open hand. The proof is right there in the open.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

hahaha the most usless art that is nothing but exercise for old people dont try to fight using the tai chi you have been taught or you will regret the day you started to learn it , siimple as that

[@francisconicolau4689]

Where is the adress of Master Sifu Liang De Hua? Is at Kuala Lumpur?

[@vanillaz]

Chiang Mai, Thailand.

[@tts626]

Very nice, thank you!

So a counter punch at the beginning. But wouldn't it be easier and far more effective using a palm strike instead? Less injury to the wrist and covering a wider area strike zone.

[@yangshen5540]

Great presentation!

[@gothicangel8917]

How can i activate the jin?

[@Livingtree32]

Find a good teacher,follow his instruction.

[@40JoCharles]

How is this 5 years ago? 🙂🙏🏼☯️

[@gosukiwi]

Nice, thanks a lot for sharing! :) What does he mean by "Na" in this context. Neutralizing? Seizing/grabbing?

[@codexdelux]

Pretty much yeah. Najin is "NA" controlling, "Jin" force or energy (as in kinetic energy, not voodoo:P) Fa is exploding or expanding energy Hwa is melting or absorbing

[@codexdelux]

Thanks :)

[@bluepussy]

How does one seize or freeze in this context?

[@fallingleaveskungfu]

Na is controlling. If you are precise enough on the point of contact you can create pressure that controls the opponent by connecting, or linking all the centers. Song by itself is not enough to control the opponent.

[@pascal0868]

ashe higgs is through a combination of intent and gravity? Song sound like use of gravity whilst being in a relaxed state. Sorry I don’t know what I’m talking about but trying to understand all of this from multiple sources

[@rigelberlingeri]

bravo!

[@Kazama0r]

This is what taichi fist is about. `chuan' means `fist'. Sifu Liang demonstrate the fist application very well, 'control' then 'strike', unfortunately not many people understand this is the way to apply taichi 'chuan'.

[@hmpf26]

i woud say : control and strike

[@Zz7722zZ]

Yes and No, 'Chuan/quan' means fist but it is also a catch-all term to denote martial skill in general. In Yang style, striking is more prevalent, but in Chen, it is more wrestling with some strikes thrown in, yet, thay are all tai chi chuan/taijiquan.

[@rigelberlingeri]

and... thank you MARTIAL MAN, for let us know this Kung Fu Master

[@luisantonio2034]

The Martial Man How are you?you recently posted a rare video on Facebook by master Huang Sheng Shyan demonstrating tai chi ground work is this tai chi the same as tai chi chuan? I refer to master Huang Sheng Shyan's Tai Chi.

[@wesleylammay4295]

I have never seen anyone that only does wing chun ever do anything remotely similar to this Yang Taiji is highly organized if you have been taught the entire system and the martial applications

[@jamesanagnos6123]

ai chi combat preparation is laughable at best , a palm to the left and a punch to the right a kick here and a kick there , please dont every try to fight using this useless art for old people ,you will get killed ,no joke stop waisting your time lol

[@wesleylammay4295]

It’s not what you don’t know that gets you hurt, it is what you don’t know you don’t know.

[@bitosdelaplaya]

08:01 we use it in wing tsun

[@ShredST]

I wish there's a serious discussion about boxing when talking about applications. Boxing is one of the most popular hand striking style, and yet it seems barely understood in the Chinese martial art world.

[@Livingtree32]

Because Chinese martial arts were created in a time and cultural context, where boxing was unknown.

[@doctormcgoveran2194]

thats odd as hell but very good. that elbow pivot punch is great.that push stuff is great as well. If you can shove them into the wall, and they get hurt, looks good in court.It looks like wing chun a little bit.

[@seanjohnson9817]

I sure hope to find a wing chun practionioner, thx for all the vids martialman

[@sonphan8174]

5 fists are enough if one fist can be applied to 100 situations.

[@HungVo-qn3lg]

According to my peronal knowledge, Tai chi is not just a martial art and it more special than other martial arts. Because Tai Chi simulates the working principle of the universe. Learning Tai Chi is not about trying to imitate actions, but about using its principle of translational rotation to suit ourself.

[@georgekondylis6723]

There is some value to this, but the return on investment is low, ie. Why not train Western boxing? Superior in every way.

[@Deaabaldeabdeab]

Did he have books

[@bidibum]

Looking at is posture, I'd never say he's a taijiquan pratictioner. Interesting though

[@mounirkm4531]

👏

[@funinglobe]

does one believe those seemingly reasonable and logical easily understandable complicated explanations and demonstrations is kungfu but not somewhat magic

[@jimmybutler1379]

With each defense is a attack as well !...

[@jamesanagnos6123]

try applying it hahaha

[@bilbobaggins5815]

This looks great if no one is actually fighting.

[@jbouse64]

Your right go fight him,

[@williamthomas4329]

🤦‍♂️ my Shifu shook his head when I showed him this video. His exact words are "Not real Taiji, fake, useless, taiji begins with a push and ends when the opponent ends. This guy couldn't couldn't end a book. " He can't stand fake Shifus. This guy and now Adam Mizner are people who he said are fake.

[@dbuck1964]

tell us the name of your seafood

[@kennyleung1017]

I see the guy want to tai chi man playing gor sau. If two man friendly ship playing exchange ,the wing chun man make sure win. Thank 21.07.2020

[@xxdummyfreshful]

Keep on dreaming

[@alekx58]

ausgeschlafene Sache das ganze

[@manusiapokpakk713]

Maybe in terms of health, Tai Chi is very good, but for actual combat, hahaha... see for yourself, Xu XiaoDong defeated The Tai Chi Master in China very easily. I don't mean to insult Tai Chi, it is very beautiful in movemnt, but in my layman's view, one of the functional Traditional Kungfu is Ngo Cho Kun (Sam Chien) and Pa Ji Kun, because they are much more simple, effective, efficient, powerful and straight to the point when used in actual combat.

[@oksureright]

Once you know how to fight you should find a new hobby. It's not a lifestyle contrary to popular notions.

[@dbuck1964]

@@oksureright no but fleecing the uneducated masses most certainly is! 😂💁🏼‍♂️

[@williamwright82164]

It looks like you are becoming interested in the Daoist forms of martial arts. May I suggest that you check out Ycgf.org it is Wang Peiseng's group. And may I suggest that you buy The Taijiquan Classics, it will be the best $100 that you spent. I have a lot to learn but what I understand the way that he is speaking it is more liangyi not Taijiquan. Bagua and Xingyi are liangyi arts not Taijiquan.

[@wygoda123]

just love watching this bullshit. Start sparring, isolate 1 technique and check whether and how often it works... Just check for yourself what bullshit it is. Myself I have trained bullshit wing tsun for 5 years. It is beautifully logically consistent with endless transitioning from a move to another. Unfortunate;y, most of these scenarios are totally unrealistic. A perfect example of bullshit is using backfist under an opponent's hand which is never there after a punch. A lot of techniques which are truly effective are used inn MMA. I admit a lot of techniques if practiced correctly could significantly enrich mma. Having said this, Chinese individual styles don't work... Perhaps, except for Shaolin monks who take body conditioning to another level. Guys, wake up, Chinese martial arts is mostly a part of their culture legacy.. nothing more then this...

[@Zz7722zZ]

Hubert Jaznicki He spars regularly

[@charlycharli5041]

@@Zz7722zZ who?

[@jamesanagnos6123]

its all peasant kung fu for the poor people , it just does not work in reality

[@hozeng1]

In real fight or competition, your structure will take impact and slow you down. Your opponent might also "press" in. It is difficult to use any complex skill unless you do lots of serious sparring. taichi is a great martial art. But don't test it on the street.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Hong Zeng very true. You must do “fight training” and sparring if you are training to fight.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@THEMARTIALMAN ai chi combat preparation is laughable at best , a palm to the left and a punch to the right a kick here and a kick there , please dont every try to fight using this useless art for old people ,you will get killed ,no joke, so just stop this shit already lol

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@THEMARTIALMAN would you like to try your luck with me? see how that works out for you lol

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

James Anagnos facebook.com/143659752717243/posts/939191493164061

[@hendipray1016]

@@jamesanagnos6123 so whats you gonna do james? Are you not going to challenge martial man again? Suddenly dissapeared james?

[@pranakhan]

Speaking on TCMA Internal combatives: Theres great material here. However, as a Baguazhang practitioner, I think its unfortunate how inactive the legs are in these drills. Each kind of strike is only talking about the movement of the hands (upper basin), and not the movement of the feet (lower basin). I know you're using your internal principles and Chi to control people at the higher levels, but not teaching integrated footwork positioning at the beginner & intermediate levels removes utility and dimensionality from the applications. Its another reason why you see these horrific encounters w/ TCMA practitioners where they are standing there & getting pummeled. They haven't embraced full body application. Understand how the force you are creating can apply to evasive footwork, sweeps & trapping.

[@Livingtree32]

Well, you don't know what and how he teaches.

[@Livingtree32]

@@dbuck1964 I agree and still my comment stands.

[@robertkuhndel1796]

🌹👍🌹 🔥☯️🔥 🙏🙏🙏

[@jamesanagnos6123]

This is what Wang Xiang Zhai the founder of Yi Quan, had to say about tai chi, Among the disciples by direct line of Tai Ji Quan, I think the most outstanding master-hands are the Yang brothers, Yang Shao Hou and Yang Chen Fu. As an intimate friend of theirs, I know there is indeed some genuine knowledge of mechanics in Tai Ji Quan. However, out of one hundred practitioners, less than one knows its essence. Even if one may happen to know some of it, he cannot have a thorough understanding of the whole, because the basic way of perceiving the skill has long been lost, and therefore there is no mechanism of force to speak of in its legwork and footwork. The boxing in question in its original form had only three movements and was thus called Lao San Dao (Old Three Cuts). It was changed by Mr. Wang Zong Yue and increased to 13 forms, which was further abused to as many as 150 forms. That is one of the main reasons why this boxing has lost its quintessence. If it is practiced for the purpose of preserving one’s health, it will only restrain one’s spirit and energy and bring discomfort to the practitioner. If practiced for actual combat, it will only do harm to the limbs. Its other functions, if any, are nothing more than idling away the practitioner’s time and confusing his mind. As to its method of practicing, which is characterized by disorderly blows of the fist and the palm or kicks of the foot and leg, I must say it is really ridiculous. In confrontation with a master-hand, such a practitioner of Tai Ji Quan is sure to fail. Even its master-hand I am afraid, can do nothing with a quite commonplace adversary so long as the latter is not very clumsy. In short, this boxing has been abused to such an extent that it might one day become a mere rigid form like a chess manual. In the last twenty years, most of its practitioners are not aware of its falseness. Even if someone is clear-headed he does not know what he should actually do. As to ordinary students, most of them believe in what they have heard without using their own eyes. Thus Tai Ji Quan is in fact being pushed towards its graveyard. What a great loss! I sincerely hope that those competent followers of that boxing will straighten it out and make it systematic with a view to developing it in the future. Here I take liberty to make comments on Tai Ji Quan, and I don’t know whether my comments are appropriate. Pardon me if I am too outspoken. I think that one day those learners of Tai Ji Quan who have really gained something would agree with me in this regard. Another words its a waste of time lol

[@ATMfromNJ]

99.99% true. Yang Sau Chung (eldest son of YCF) lineage still demonstrate the mostly lost art. Give folks like Chu Gin-Soon, Vincent Chu, Gordon Chu, and H. Won Gim a search. Powerful dudes.

[@Gieszkanne]

Interesting also his thoughts that Taiji can also harm the practioner. Yang Banhou and Yang Cheng Fu only get into their 50ies. Many Yang style masters only get around their 70ies. That is less than everage. Many masters from so called external Kung Fu styles get older and are in better shape.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@Gieszkanne Even though that is true in some cases, I know a master direct lineage to the Yang taichi style TT Liang who learned form Chen Man Ching a puple of Yang Chen Fu , TT lived to the age of one hundred , Chen Man Ching his teacher did not reach 70, why? the way you live has a lot to do with how long you live , also the geniology of your family is it long lived or short lived, it all matters , its not as clear cut to just say taichi does not live long lol ,some live very long, my grandfater lived to 110 my grandmother to 99 my father to 94 ,none of them knew taichi lol, if i live to 100 is it the internal kung fu that i practice or my family blood line?

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@ATMfromNJ Yang Chen Fu was by far the worst of the Yang family masters, his top student was Chen Man Ching and he SUCKED , enough said

[@Gieszkanne]

@@jamesanagnos6123 So you have your own examples in your family. Did you know that TT Liang started learning Tang Lang very late when he already practised Taiji. I think it was in his 80ies! Why he did that? Maybe he felt that Taiji alone dont give him enough exercise?! What I want to say that for the claim Taiji give you a long live, there is NO evidence. And maybe its even bad. I once read an artikel of a Kung Fu/Taiji master who wrote that Taiji alone dont give enough cardio and criticized that many Taiji masters and practioners are overweighted.

[@kennyleung1017]

THe tai chi form the push hand isnt work to Wing chun . Tai chi form is no central line empty the hand, See Thank.17.09.2020

[@peterkhew7414]

These 5 fists are the same as the 5 element fist in Xingyiquan, at least in terms of trajectory. The difference is in its expression. 1) Beng Quan. 2) Pao Quan. 3) Pi Quan. 4) Heng quan. 5) Zuan quan.

[@bebodhienterprises]

In all my years of Taijiquan, learning from a high level teacher who had very close connections to the Yang family, I never heard the term/phrase '5 fist'. The movements shown in this video are ok, but to say 5 fist....NO, sounds like Hung Gar. I'll just stop here. Peace.

[@Kazama0r]

The fist he showed are standard move from the from. He demonstrate the application very well.

[@DrunkenDarwin]

When he says 5 fists he's referring to in the form there's only 5 moves with fist in the name. Parry & Block, Punch to the Crotch, Under the Elbow, Torso-Flung Punch, and beyond these four there is also the Overturned Punch. He's trying to show no matter the transformation in the situation they are all derived from these moves from the form.

[@chilliwilly5708]

I like to See sifu liang vs xuxiaodong. ( i hope sifu wins the Match)

[@chilliwilly5708]

@Mei Jing I like Tai Chi, it gives me good health. Greetings from Chile (South America)

[@williamthomas4329]

He'd be destroyed. Xu is trained to fight, and that's all he focuses on. He started in Sanda. There is a philosophy: "You can only fight the way you train." This Shifu is just demonstrating. However, against a resisting opponent, he wouldn't fair well.

[@perrypelican9476]

This guy is good but too many words to explain. It gets hard to pay attention because you want him to get to the point.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

yea you can do this and that and step to the side lol buddy let me tell you something, in 3 seconds flat you will be running for your life if your even in a friendly sparing match with me, i hope you can run fast hahahaha

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@Mei Jing my style is Liu He Ba Fa, if he controls me? hahaha can a rabbit controll a leopard ? he will know he is being stocked by a predetor and his life is in danger, his only anser is to run for his life, simple as that,nothing that he has lerned from tai chi can save him, its pathetic to think they can fight

[@TaijiquanGaoshou]

"I can do this" and "I can do that" again . If you're not working on pads and bags, you only have "flower fists"

[@billymandalay9504]

'flower fists' are about pretty hands without power. It's not about exploring a variety of responses. Pads and bags are about meeting force with force....resistance. What if the returning force were redirected...control. They are complementary training processes.

[@TaijiquanGaoshou]

@@billymandalay9504 Can you punch someone without force ? What would you redirect when you're punching ? Better train a number of working techniques than endlessly "explore the varieties". Without practicing impact drills a "martial art" is just a pretty dance.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@billymandalay9504 what if our hands or legs clash ? you will start crying oh my arm oh my leg lol because you dont use something to strike agaist making your bones stronger each day, compared to you my bones are like Titanium , you will brake lol

[@ugandaknuckles6096]

I made up even better moves when I was 12 years old fighting with my 10 years old brother after watching Bruce Lee movie XD This is sooo Fake. Reported for scam.

[@robertdesmondwarner458]

Imma officially call all this bullshit... Ramblin' Fu. Soooo much talkie talkie

[@jbouse64]

I don't see ya taking time to find out. You talk to much.

[@robertdesmondwarner458]

@@jbouse64 I dont have to go to egypt to know it sandy.

[@robertdesmondwarner458]

@Jin ze in your bullshit included

[@255446161]

His student's reactions are fake.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

all fake masters have students that jump like a bunny when being pushed lol now a days thats normal to be a fraud and get away with it, back in the day it would cost you your life so fakes were few and far inbetween

[@jasonhelmes3015]

Always the same with these guys all talking without doing

[@Zz7722zZ]

@@longfeijiang2449 footage of sparring kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4fFpZ2bbJKbh80 kzbin.info/www/bejne/epSZo36EfLZ5htE

[@Zz7722zZ]

see the link above for Sifu Liang's old sparring footage

[@craigllacour649]

Don't mean a thing if you're not padded up and striking for real

[@bilbobaggins5815]

Exactly

[@Zz7722zZ]

@@bilbobaggins5815 kzbin.info/www/bejne/epSZo36EfLZ5htE

[@jamesanagnos6123]

tai chi combat preparation is laughable at best , a palm to the left and a punch to the right a kick here and a kick there , please dont every try to fight using this useless art for old people ,you will get killed ,no joke