KTM 790 Duke - Long term review

KTM 790 Duke - Long term review: Having ridden “The Scalpel” for a few weeks now I’ve got a good feel for what the bike is all about. In this video I look at what the Duke 790 is like to live with and cover the pros and cons of the bike, the cost of ownership and my overall conclusions....stay tuned!
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[@davidt343]

The right angle vales on the rims, should be a standard in today modern bike age.

[@dbtrackz33]

David T first thing I do upon first tire change on any bike.

[@renynzea]

Should definitely be standard on the Kawasaki Z900RS. Had a bear of a time getting a straight chuck on my rims first time I checked the pressure. The spokes on the rims are on the small side. Had to order a right angle chuck for my air gauge.

[@MrLou8888]

Right angle valve extensions available from most bike parts suppliers for less than $10.00 U.S. REVZILLA or CYCLEGEAR.

[@scotteger6271]

This is why I bought a small electric air pump...has a bicycle tire pump type end on it and can get it in very small places, even scooter rims.

[@CreepyLemon25]

Prolly the best review ive watched in youtube so far. Very informative. Kudos!!!

[@stevenhill6214]

That's a great looking bike, they have got the styling just right. Great review as always.

[@TheSwissMotard]

"The quickshifter..." *zooms in on rear brake* :p

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

:0)

[@Quijibo13]

;D

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

Didn't go unnoticed

[@AndalusianPrince]

Pretty sure that's the quickshifter.

[@justgotafilthyname]

really one of the best reviews out there for that bike in my eyes :) Great job!

[@aukanmeister]

Great comprehensive review! I'm really looking forward to trying it on for size! Been riding my LC8 adv for the last 10 years, it seems about time to upgrade and downsize!

[@szymonchalupka]

I bought this bike after this review and couple others. After owning it for around 1,5 years I cannot be happier with it. It's so much fun, it is great for commuting, weekend trips and occasional track days. I was thinking what could be my next bike but I can see no competition for 790.

[@beans4269]

What about the new 890r?

[@xhale111]

Any reliability issues so far? Considering the 790 Duke or the MT-09 for my next bike but leaning towards the latter :-|

[@szymonchalupka]

@@xhale111 after two seasons I sold my 790 to my friend and bought Aprilia RS660. Never had any issues with KTM and it is still running fine. My RS60 died after 1600 kilometres and it has been waiting more than 3 months now for the exhaust valves replacement because there are no spare parts available. Before, I test rode 890R for couple of days and I really regret choosing RS660 over 890R. 890R is much more refined, it has more power and better handling. I just felt in love with the looks of Italian Supermodel... stupid :)

[@xhale111]

@@szymonchalupka sorry to hear about your decision... Appreciate the lengthy reply though... Just trying to get real feedback from people that actually owned the 790... So far it seems reliability is a lot better than others will make u think

[@szymonchalupka]

​@@xhale111 I think it is a matter of new bike. I was just lucky with 790 and quite unlucky with Aprilia but there are people riding RS660 without any issues. But 790 was great do it all bike. I could easily commute, do weekend trips and attend trackdays few times per year. Even do some gravel road on rare occasions :-) I compared it with my friend's MT09 which is also great package but I preferred the character of KTM.

[@brighthousechrome7079]

Top review TMF, very comprehensive, my hat's off to you especially for the night section

[@TOPSK2015]

Very practical long term review. Cheers mate!

[@stefanfrittiert1038]

Love your reviews, well done!

[@wltrlg]

I rented this one last week in Switzerland. Unbelievable fun, light and powerful bike!

[@mrt3976]

great review Mr Flyer, once again you give a proper real world test with unbiased opinion, well done, truly inspiring.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Inspiring? Wow....I'll take it!

[@JDoubleOP]

Thanks Mr. TMF for this clear story --> Best goodlooking mid naked at the moment.

[@zrkn1]

Excellent review and summary, Thank You and have a nice week ahead. ps. Nice picture of your bikes in the store front.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers!

[@jamess9162]

Brilliant TMF, I love mine and and agree with everything you've said about it.It is the best all round bike I've ever had and there have been many.

[@SantoshS1279]

Awesome! Never seen a complete review as this one. Keep up the good work! Love from India.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks!

[@CindyBallreich]

The seating position segment was really helpful! I hope you add this to all your reviews.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I’ll try and remember...

[@JanuzBerisha]

Wow this is one of the best completely detailed review i ever watched. Great video mate. Cheers

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Wow, thanks!

[@rookie9580]

Awesome video cheers. I was torn between the street triple and the ktm. Now I know which I’m going for. 😊😊😊

[@jtandy]

Thanks TMF! Great work; very informative; keep it up!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Will do and thanks....

[@splodge5714]

Great review of a nice bike. It would be the Triumph 765 Street Triple for me, bit more bang for bucks and I much prefer the looks.

[@NZbird]

Thanks so much for such a comprehensive review. I'm a 71 year old, same height as you. Currently riding a Suzuki GSX-S1000 in NZ. Looking for a lighter bike as I age and the 790 seems to tick all the boxes for what I need. Might need to fit slightly lower pegs on account of knee damage but that should be straightforward - did it on the Suzuki.

[@NZbird]

Have now bought one and adore it. 1500 km review here: geoffjames.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-scalpel-one-month-and-1500-km-down.html . Many thanks for putting me on the path to ownership!

[@tomquinn607]

@@NZbird Great blog! I'll be 70 in Oct. and am buying a new bike for my birthday. Was thinking GSXS 750 but now you have me thinking KTM 790.

[@meltonrobbo]

@@NZbird Great blog site. I also have seen you on the 790 forum. For a 71 yr old I applaud you... mind, I am fast catching you up and still I think I am 24.

[@NZbird]

@@meltonrobbo. Thanks for the kind words Robert. It's bikes like the Duke 790 that keep us young. My wife says it's like living with a 5 year old 😁. Safe riding!

[@NZbird]

@@tomquinn607 . Hi Tom - sorry, have only just seen your post. I hope that you ended up buying a 790 and love it to bits!

[@HaydenMills]

Awesome video, been waiting for this, thankyou !

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you for watching!

[@marscruz]

I like that you (try to) show and describe to us the night riding experience. Lighting is so important for safety... being able to see down the road and around curves as well as your visibility to other drivers. Most reviewers skip this important aspect and that really is critical for how confident I feel riding at night. I'm hoping you get a chance to ride the 790 Adventure soon. That's the bike I'm really interested in. Cheers from the NW USA.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Marscruz -- I try and show the things that would be important to me if I were buying the bike in these reviews, appreciate the kind comment!

[@ianyams]

Another great review, thanks TMF. 👍

[@jojishirokawa6752]

Love your video... definitely gonna buy it in future=)

[@pistolpete6321]

Seems like KTM have hit a home run with this bike! Awesome review as always, love this format!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad about that Pete - cheers!

[@nathanf1934]

Except for the average suspension and brakes.

[@doylee469]

Nathan F yeah he doesnt talk about that does he? I’d never buy a ktm, no matter how many guys like this say it’s worth the money

[@scotteger6271]

@@doylee469 he mentioned the KTM branded brakes in his first ride review. He mentions the WP suspension as well. To be fair though most regular riders probably have no idea how to correctly set preload/compression/rebound, so conventional parts work for the majority of riders. Not a KTM fan but I don't think they did anything wrong here by using what they did...I mean, would Bybre brakes really improve it that much...and you know you're not going to see legit Brembo's on these kind of bikes.

[@wave2k]

Love the old speckled hen in the garage. Great review too

[@eduardosilva7304]

Great full description of this bike! From far the best and the only one to watch, if you're up to buy one of these. And you convinced me, totally! I've been thinking on buying either a used Ducati Streetfighter, a Z1000sx, a Ducati Monster 1200, a BMW S1000r, or a Kawasaki 2014 Z1000...but this one beats them all! (For me...) Thanks again for enlighten me :). The looks of this KTM are great, too.

[@destroyerxd4499]

You do great work! One of the best, if not the best, when it comes to practical reviews. Hello from Seattle, bro! #SafeRides 🤙🤙🤙

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You're too kind sir!

[@SineOccasu]

God bless you sir! You always do a great job reviewing bikes. Gotta throw you a like!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you!

[@czuczups]

Im about to buy one, thx TMF for in depth review, it helped me a lot!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to be of service!

[@czuczups]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah, took delivery today, same black one as on the vid. Unfortunately still waiting to take the first ride as the keys and papers went in a separate package which wasnt delivered yet. Disappointing.

[@jayuk686]

Reviews don’t come much more comprehensive that’s this. Excellent job.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you!

[@paolo4002]

Love these long term reviews! You really do, do a fantastic job on them !! As far as riding position and a cramped position, KTM does offer 3 ergo seat replacement options. 20mm higher, 20mm lower, and stock height. All 3 are more comfortable, so They say. KTM also offer, an adjustable footpeg system as well. So finding a comfortable position is very achievable.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Paolo....

[@dynamotightstar3472]

Lovely looking bike and dream to tick most of the boxes. I hear a lot of bad press about faults with the bikes those being fluid leaks. I'm test riding Monday and will hopefully be as impressed with it as I am with my 390 Duke. Thanks for the great video.

[@love4steel]

maybe the best reviewer Ive seen. when I watch motorcycle videos as research before purchasing.. I've always wished they would show me the headlight at night. finally someone gets it.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to help!

[@jamesharvey1766]

Amazing video helps a lot!

[@patricktran9353]

Good thorough review! Thank you

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you for watching and for stopping by!

[@imsunil6149]

A great review. This was my first visit on ur CHANNEL N ur presentation n coverage of all imp details made me subscribe ur channel. Keep uploading the videos in same manner

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Welcome aboard!

[@samiam8779]

24 minutes well spent. Thanks for another comprehensive review TMF! This bike is my top 3 to replace my Wee-Strom. Going to have to check out how bad the snatchy throttle response at low constant speeds is. (RJ reported the same problem.)

[@lkfldfadf]

Snatch throttle is easily solved when switched to rain mode. Better for low speed city commuting.

[@samiam8779]

Broseidon thanks for the tip. I'm going to try it out when I demo it. Cheers!

[@madcow71]

Just made up my mind for me, I was leaning towards a street triple but I'm sold now 👍🏻

[@gregwebb8141]

Really great in depth review. These are coming to north America at the end of the year and man am I tempted to get back into riding with this machine.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Greg

[@spenner3529]

Nicely done. Pertinent information. No extraneous nonsense.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Pietro!

[@calbrock6302]

As someone who is looking at buying one of these (Xmas treat) this video is invaluable

[@BRaff-hl4ip]

Yup, I'm getting one!

[@RideTheTrack]

Oooh someone’s rocking a splendid summer tan

[@rusty9501]

Great and very informative review. Thanks

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching Russell....

[@PlattLaneEnd]

Great review as ever Shakey...

[@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127]

This review sold this bike for me

[@Hangkab17]

Very good review! Well explained! Thanks a lot!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks or watching....

[@nickfry7705]

I have noticed the SW Motech have now launched some decent ABS panniers and racks for the 790 now which will make it a lot more capable for touring. Also I see that Puig are doing a good looking short screen that again should help with wind pressure when touring.

[@gezmason5067]

Fantastic review

[@FrederickCouch]

Great review! Lots of useful info.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Fred....

[@peterhatfield5632]

As usual, another great long term review from TMF - it's why I subscribe to the channel. I already have a 2009 Street Triple R, so I wouldn't buy the Duke 790 as they're too similar. However, I do have a 390 Duke, and that bike has the same snatchiness at small throttle openings. It is easily cured with a piggy-back ECU, and I installed a Coober item - this has cured the snatchy throttle. It seems that to conform to Euro 4, KTM has made the air/fuel ratio too lean, thereby causing the snatchy throttle.

[@kamilf9558]

Great video Very nice review Thumbs up 👍 Thanks for sharing Peace

[@wrkings]

Great review mate,luved it

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks - and appreciate the feedback....

[@staggabob]

@8:20 It's quite often Friday around where I live too. We seem to get at least one a week lately and, if anything, i'd say they're becoming more common...

[@nzmike7497]

Best review of the 790 I've seen - really clear, super informative, well produced and best of all not laden with stupid heavy metal or banging techno. I'm in the market for a new bike and trying to decide between the MT09 and the 790 but as much as I love the KTM they are very expensive where I live (Australia) so it may the be Yammie instead.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Mike, both great bikes, you won’t go far wrong with either....personally I prefer the Yam of the two....

[@mikewoodward3671]

You are kidding me right? The KTM is miles better than the Yamaha MT09. I've owned both - paid for with my own hard earned cash - and having had the MT09 for 12 months I part ex'd it for the KTM in July this year. MT09 is a fab motor ruined by a very average chassis with terrible suspension and no front end feel whatsoever. The worst bike I've ever taken on track. Frankly scary. The KTM is perfectly balanced, has loads of front end feel and is miles better on track. On the road the whole KTM package feels perfectly balanced. Great engine, just the fright amount of power, fantastic handling and amazing electronics. The up / down quick shifter is outstanding. One thing you did miss from the review is that the chain is a pain to adjust on the KTM as it is VERY sensitive to chain tension and even dealers tend to set them too tight which can damage the output shaft seal. I've had mine replaced already and it still weeps. You have to run the chain quite slack. Despite this niggle it's the best bike I've owned for a long time and THE perfect road tool.

[@MaxRay16]

@@mikewoodward3671 I was really considering the MT-09 since I had the FZ-07 (USA) which got totalled earlier this year. But I used to work at a KTM dealer and had a 450 EXC supermoto and loved everything with KTM and was interested in the 790 Duke but I have to wait another year to get it here. And of course theres another dealer near me that is doing a demo on the bike next week but to ride the 500cc+ bikes you have to be 25 years or older and I'm only 19.

[@hisaanhaq4116]

Good review as always 👍🏼, I have my eyes on the 890 duke r when it comes out, hope the oil leak issues I’ve read from reviews that this one had have been sorted

[@aimenalwan]

Great breakdown, thank you sir.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching!

[@hudsonrilke]

Top review. If I was in UK I’d be testing this

[@CasualFlyer]

Going to pick mine tomorrow! Great Review!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations!

[@kruisr7449]

Many thanks for the very nice video. I bought my Duke 790 in April 2018. Until now there is no Problem with this Machine. Only the workmanship and the plastic parts do not look as valuable as, for example, Yamaha. Still, this machine has character. The engine is raw and snotty - just right for a naked bike. Even the sound with the standard silencer is wonderful.

[@v.t.6890]

Love your detailed reviews, waiting for this bike in India. Love from India..

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Vivek...

[@Bobbyvw]

Great review! I bought one myself The Black Edition. Thanks

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cool!

[@nathanboeger9329]

Not a fan of naked bikes but I like this one. Great review.

[@Joe-co4sq]

Great video. I currently own a 2012 KTM 350excf and want to retire from trail riding and see more of Florida and I was looking at the 790 duke. Thank you for such an informative review.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You’re welcome

[@Showmetheevidence-]

KTM is awesome, street triple sounds mega... but think my money would end up going to the 790. Nice review!

[@villavangvieng5187]

I was test-riding it too at the weekend. The quick shifter is incredible smooth, the bike remains absolutely stable even when shifting up/down in a corner with a good lean angle. Breaking into a corner is easy too, requiring only minimal additional effort. I also tested breaking when leaning in a turn already (yep, guilty of that...), and the bike remained quite stable - only a bit of straightening, rather easy to control. Very tempted to trade-in one of my bikes for this little gem. Anyway, thank you for the review, sir. Well done ;-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching.....

[@robertengland9352]

Excellent vid bud 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers and thanks for watching!

[@brucekendall52]

Thks for the review.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You’re welcome as ever Bruce!

[@F4Effort]

I don’t know why I see so many complaints about the KTM styling, especially the headlights, personally I think they look great! Currently own a 2017 390 Duke, saving long term for a 1290 Super Adventure R. I love how they look like nothing else in the road, especially the split headlights.

[@ads4641]

These videos really epitomize how a motorcycle review should be done, I really can't think of anything to ask that you did not cover, nice job. Gotta say that insurance seems reasonable in the UK. I'm paying almost 1000$ per year for a 2017 F6B. I've been riding bikes for 40 years, and if anyone knows Ottawa then that year is basically 7 months of riding, if you're lucky. Although I did see a guy riding a Ural with the sidecar set up last winter (December) in -20C weather and it was snowing, brave man!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Andy - appreciate the kind comments....

[@thechilternturbo1185]

Congrats on the 80k!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers! (81k now!)

[@karlosh9286]

Finally had a test ride of one of these , it was very good. Looks would stop me from gettting one.

[@chipneal]

Really nice review!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks!

[@kevski6026]

Excellent review Sir 👊seems like a great bike !!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Kev...

[@johnward3490]

Great real review as always for me the triple takes some beating but .....

[@jonathanmellish4439]

Looks brilliant with sensible power. The front guard looks a bit short for protecting the engine.

[@darrendark4791]

Fantastic review, I’m slowly leaning towards the duke rather than the mt07 , I’m coming from a adv350 , you answered all the questions I wanted answering thank you 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad I could help!

[@Pomoz7]

Great review TMF. You didn't mention pillion, but it looks like a small seat. As for the snatchy throttle, I can tell you that my Duke 390 (2017) was the same at slow speeds. The engine used to "hunt' and was quite jerky in 1st and second gear. When you are filtering at walking pace, this could be a real issue making it hard to to smoothly manoeuvre. I just used to use the clutch and raise the revs, problem solved. In another blog, somebody suggested that it is making the engines run lean that causes this issue, presumably to improve mileage and improve emissions.

[@125conman]

Are still happy with your 390? I grew up riding dirt bikes and im wondering if i'd get boerd of the 390 too quickly. I'd would 100% LOVE to have a 790 but i think the cost is just too high for me. Should i get a new 390 or a used 650 kawi/yam/suzi naked? 5'11 155 23 y/o

[@paulwilson838]

Brilliant review

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Paul

[@paulwilson838]

Ordered one now

[@mfjets4]

Great review!!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you

[@m.rsteengrei3569]

man , , , you said it about the mirrors :) the first thing i did on my baby Duke 200 was to replace the mirrors with somthing prettier and more practical.

[@chalkphil]

Good review - I’m really tempted by a mid-size, jump on and go bike to share the garage with my Tiger 1200!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Sounds like a good plan to me!

[@johnDukemaster]

Went out for a testride on one of these today and I must say, it's one of the best bikes ever! Great power, handling, brakes, modes etc etc. Yep, it might push my BMW out of my garage...hmm...

[@johnDukemaster]

Well, I'm here again! And yes, the BMW went...but for a Honda CB650R! Which went after testing the 690 Duke! I love it! ...but must admit, the 790/890 lurching in the shadows. But are they better enough to justify the price? And now there's a new 790 coming in!

[@fazerjohn]

Great review.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks...

[@MACK13]

KTM and pilchards..... mmmmm what a combo 🦈... Fantastic review, thanks TMF - Maggie and Mack, Huddersfield

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching (and noticing the pilchards)....

[@sandeepsam1411]

Wish i had roads like these🤩

[@leftfourdead82]

Best review I've seen so far for the 790. I just ordered mine it's £7499.99 at the moment but I have to wait 3 weeks 😭

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations!

[@stableslayers3958]

Cracking review tmf as always See the lugging around no issue. Good job as it’s Ktm and need to be able to do this when put in recovery vehicle 🤔😂😤

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

:-) Cheeky!! (but gave me a smile)......

[@MrStr8den]

Zero your oddometer when you next fill her to the brim - ride at your leisure/pace then refuel - take note of how many litres until brimmed again, then convert to gallons by dividing the amount of litres by 4.546.... finally you can now divide your 'new gallons' figure into your new oddometer reading, this will give a true average mpg - if this method doesn't work for you just pass me those keys!

[@ctclothbagco]

I've got a spreadsheet and graph for mine, always brim it and reset the mileage. Over the course of 10k miles I've seen my mpg go from around 57 to 70ish on my CB650F

[@lukaszg74]

very good video mate

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you

[@sm400xr]

Great video Thankyou

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you for watching and for stopping by....

[@sm400xr]

Test driving one this weekend coming !!

[@Aiken47]

I have discovered cruise control would have been great - I'll be seeing if the 790 ADVs cruise control is installable.

[@xpersix9222]

wow great review fella : ) I got a ktm duke 390 and love it, but after owing it now for a few years plus 20,000 miles think its time to move on... looked at a Honda rebel 1st, then a cbrf 500, cbrx500, cbr500,xsr700 yam the Kawasaki z400, now I've came full circle back to ktm : ) wait a min has I write this just noticed another Kawasaki Z650 emmmmm I just don't know : (

[@neilwiddison6529]

Nice review flyer. But I will keep my vfr 750 lol.

[@erolgermannemmanuel5637]

Thanks mate ..!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You're welcome...

[@bastrix69]

Wow... didnt expect those prices for the services!

[@GIGABACHI]

I still think that muffler belongs in the rubbish can. Needs a tiny undertail mounted muffler so bad . . . I hope the cat's inside the steel bladder between the engine and rear wheel. Gas prices in your neck of the woods are HIGH (O . O) Great work, Mr. Flyer ! Look forward to more !

[@paulleggett9735]

JIGA BACHI like all ktms, before it. So you hit the power parts catalogue at the dealer.

[@eubikedude]

I actually like the stock can versus some of the aftermarket ones. It also works with the PP luggage ... which also hides it and is likely cheaper than an aftermarket can.

[@ProfTrout]

Yes, all exhausts should be neatly tucked away like an MT09's these days - big showy exhausts should of ended in the 80s along with pony tails 😁 That's the only thing I dislike about the bike.

[@mrsilbo6499]

You'll be wanting the AUSTIN Racing exhaust then...