Ali's Toughest Fight Explained! - Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton | Fight Breakdown

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@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist 2 жыл бұрын
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@Imthatoneboy
@Imthatoneboy 2 жыл бұрын
Part 2 💯💯💯
@johndavidlayton779
@johndavidlayton779 3 жыл бұрын
George Forman called Norton “the fairest of them all” because he was such a good person also out of the ring. That’s big respect.
@moomaniac2932
@moomaniac2932 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregsworks8547 wut
@stephencurry8552
@stephencurry8552 2 жыл бұрын
And Norton was factually dumb as a stump. Could not even speak correctly.
@johnaustin209
@johnaustin209 2 жыл бұрын
*FOREMAN
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
Many people in the Marines with Norton said he was an a##hole. That's understandable knowing the Marines history. They got to be tough. Norton was a great guy.
@ComboSmooth
@ComboSmooth 3 жыл бұрын
My GF has me watching Big Brother right now and Frazier's son is on the show, and I pause often to tell my GF that Joe Frazier was a legend. I don't think she cares, but i'd rather rant about that than watch big brother
@zachleprieur2871
@zachleprieur2871 3 жыл бұрын
🤣same
@rubenaerts7284
@rubenaerts7284 3 жыл бұрын
Marvis Frazier? He was good boxer 2 though. Nothing like his father and he also had no business at heavyweight + he took on Fraziers style and that didn't suit him, Marvis was a boxer, not a pressure fighter.
@ScooBdont
@ScooBdont 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubenaerts7284 It’s Joe Frazier’s youngest son Derek Frazier. Unfortunately Marvis is probably most remembered from Larry Holmes’ and Mike Tyson’s knockout highlights that actually were his only 2 losses.
@lrockyfan5106
@lrockyfan5106 3 жыл бұрын
Big brother is pretty good though.
@quintingrant9285
@quintingrant9285 3 жыл бұрын
@A l p h e u s its like a show where people all live in a house and compete for money this year the money is up to 750,000 dollars
@lampini
@lampini 3 жыл бұрын
ken norton is probably the most underrated heavyweight in history. He fought every contender of his time, beat most of them, and was at the top of his division for almost the entire decade. I wish he fought joe frazier because I would've loved to see who would've won that fight
@b9479
@b9479 3 жыл бұрын
I think him and Joe had the same trainer, that's why they never fought
@michadebicki6534
@michadebicki6534 3 жыл бұрын
@@b9479 and they liked and respected each other.
@kelvinhouston4287
@kelvinhouston4287 3 жыл бұрын
Norton wanted to fight Joe. But Joe didn't want to fight him. Not because he was afraid of him ( so he says) but because they were friends.
@isaabdullahi9097
@isaabdullahi9097 3 жыл бұрын
Both were disciples of Eddie Futch; the most Highly underated trainer/boxing brain ever. Ali was the man to beat that era, so Futch always produced fighters that could counter Ali's style. That's why his fighters excelled against Ali but faltered against other top contenders. Norton was just a taller, less durable, right handed Frazier, with a better jab.
@kelvinhouston4287
@kelvinhouston4287 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell you right now who would have won a fight between Norton and Frazier. Joe Frazier would have won! He had more pedigree than Norton. More ring savvy between the two. And he hit just hard enough to freeze Norton like a deer in head lights! Everyone knows Norton couldn't deal with big hitters, as his record shows. But I still considered him to be a great fighter.
@ernestwest6861
@ernestwest6861 3 жыл бұрын
The craziest part is how easily George foreman ran through Norton, then still lost to Ali
@Robban.D.Jonsson.
@Robban.D.Jonsson. 3 жыл бұрын
Foreman was a nightmarish opponent style wise for fighters like Norton and Frazier.
@tremainehughes9342
@tremainehughes9342 3 жыл бұрын
@@Robban.D.Jonsson. because Norton and Frazier had low line head movement foreman style was built off framing the opponent into punches. Framing can hinder anybody with good head movement it keeps them stationary for a split second.
@juk1107
@juk1107 3 жыл бұрын
That's boxing for you
@michel0dy
@michel0dy 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the style matchups really affect the outcome of those fights
@levimiller5007
@levimiller5007 3 жыл бұрын
Styles make matches. Just look at the bouts involving the Ali, Frazier, and Foreman.. Ali lost to Frazier once, Frazier was beaten by Foreman (and later, Ali), and Foreman lost to Ali. Very rarely, a person can use sheer speed/strength to overwhelm a substantial degree of technique/tactics/experience.
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside 2 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes recently said Norton was the best fighter he ever fought. Said Norton had far more skill than people gave him credit for, and an ability to adapt his style, take away your strengiths and exploit your weaknesses as the fight went along.
@RustCole01
@RustCole01 3 жыл бұрын
That punch Norton threw at 01:02 was savage but his decision not to pummel a dazed opponent deserves respect. He had every right to light that dude up but he seemed to realize that the guy was losing his legs. Gotta respect Norton's restraint.... he saw the guy wobbling and just waited a few seconds for him to go down...
@Haircuthustler1
@Haircuthustler1 Жыл бұрын
Facts. Gained even more respect for him after I seen that
@Taima
@Taima Жыл бұрын
Yeah, compare to someone like Tyson who'd try to see if he could pop the dude's head off his shoulders before he went down first
@RustCole01
@RustCole01 Жыл бұрын
@@Taima kzbin.infofgtzQs82dgU?si=ML1iKww4wtPHLS3o More like Ray Mercer
@Craterfist
@Craterfist 3 жыл бұрын
Norton deserves his name written next to Ali, Frazier, and Foreman in the history books.
@butcherofntexas4966
@butcherofntexas4966 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. He fought 39 rounds with Ali.
@nihaad344
@nihaad344 3 жыл бұрын
so does Larry Holmes
@tcf2142
@tcf2142 3 жыл бұрын
@@nihaad344 he certainly does. But I think Holmes was from the next era.... dominated the era between Ali and Tyson
@nihaad344
@nihaad344 3 жыл бұрын
@@tcf2142 fair enough
@kcash6359
@kcash6359 3 жыл бұрын
It is right there with the others. The Mount Rushmore of 70s heavyweights is Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Norton.
@VinnieGer
@VinnieGer 3 жыл бұрын
If my jaw was broken I would bawl and leave. “You guys are too mean I’m going home!” Respect
@UBboxing
@UBboxing 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t we all 🤣
@357-swagnumultramagax9
@357-swagnumultramagax9 3 жыл бұрын
Like Cartman says : screw you guys ! I’m going home !
@raxtz2033
@raxtz2033 3 жыл бұрын
@@UBboxing tattyff to
@emmanouel8
@emmanouel8 3 жыл бұрын
@@UBboxing except all the KZbin warriors out there. You know who you are 🤣
@GuacJohnson
@GuacJohnson 3 жыл бұрын
I got two ribs fractured in a fight and was still freezing up and losing exchanges from the pain despite having experienced far worse: can only imagine how crazy and iron-willed you have to be to continue to fight at this level with a broken jaw
@nweike
@nweike 3 жыл бұрын
The intellect, knowledge, tactical breakdown and editing skills you put into these videos is world class. Bravo 👏🏿👏🏿
@izilgur
@izilgur 2 жыл бұрын
yeah fucking good... is like seeing a manga or something, like we could tell what the boxers were thinking at that moment.
@felicecancellara4524
@felicecancellara4524 3 жыл бұрын
“Every time I watched his chest i know he was coming and when the jab touched the glove fireback” Ken Norton one of the best of all time
@elwin38
@elwin38 3 жыл бұрын
My earliest memory of Muhammad Ali and the 1st fight i remember watching on TV(just turned 5yrs old). My oldest brother and his friends came over to my mom's house to watch. They fought 2 more times and Ali won in very close split decisions(some said Norton got robbed in the rubber match).
@yuu9258
@yuu9258 2 жыл бұрын
That last match was not a split decision. It was a unanimous decision. (edit spelling unanimous)
@kardiackids1435
@kardiackids1435 2 жыл бұрын
@@yuu9258 For which fighter in your opinion though? I haven't watched the 3rd fight yet.
@charliebates9098
@charliebates9098 2 жыл бұрын
Norton did get robbed
@handzofstone1152
@handzofstone1152 2 жыл бұрын
@@charliebates9098 No he didn't.
@charliebates9098
@charliebates9098 2 жыл бұрын
@@handzofstone1152 Norton beat him both times dude and the third he was robbed ... I boxed for almost 15 years and watched all of Ali and Frazier's fights at least 100 times trying to combine Frazier's head movement with Ali jab and foot work ... I was pretty good on the outside and knew how to get inside because of the head movement .... But either way I watched all their fights a ton of times and they were both my favorite fighters... Ali lost both fights to Norton! ... If I was a judge I would have given the second fight to Norton! He was the aggressor most the time, landed more punches ... I really don't know how they gave it to Ali! And this is coming from someone who Ali and Frazier was his hero!
@sebastiaankrul2403
@sebastiaankrul2403 3 жыл бұрын
This feels like the real Rocky story
@UBboxing
@UBboxing 3 жыл бұрын
The pfp you have fits this so well
@Confucius202
@Confucius202 3 жыл бұрын
That was the Chuck Wepner fight
@sebastiaankrul2403
@sebastiaankrul2403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Confucius202 I know, but for me this feels more like the rocky story than the fight the movie was based on
@RazorEdge2006
@RazorEdge2006 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Joe Frazier was the real Rocky? Frazier was from Philly, just like Rocky.
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 3 жыл бұрын
Ironicall the Rocky movie was based on a Rocky Fight. One of the white dudes he boxed made Ali trip and Sylvester Stallone thought the white guy knocked Rocky down. It inspired him to write Rocky.
@timephire
@timephire 3 жыл бұрын
0:02 George Foreman always looks so bored while beating his opponents up. Lol ;o)
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist 3 жыл бұрын
According to him he was terrified a lot of the time too. Great poker face haha
@jintheicesage3704
@jintheicesage3704 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tomgjgj
@tomgjgj 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people's faces go blank when inside they're basically trying really hard not to panic.
@user-kk2dw1eh5q
@user-kk2dw1eh5q 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheModernMartialArtist If you're interested I watched an Ali interview after this fight earlier and he said his jaw broke in the 2nd round. Idk really but I'd guess it's the punch that knocked him into the corner. That's why he came out dancing in the 3rd and why it got shut down so fast
@freddiereagan6705
@freddiereagan6705 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomgjgj and they success
@YandereGogeta
@YandereGogeta 3 жыл бұрын
As an amateur/casual boxing fan, these videos blow my mind. Thank you for the effort you put in!
@firstlast3674
@firstlast3674 3 жыл бұрын
When the Protagonist is gearing up for his big rematch with the Rival, but that new character shows up.
@Tom757
@Tom757 3 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@Mayaxeditz
@Mayaxeditz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom757 no
@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989
@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989 3 жыл бұрын
That's the situation with Ali frazier and foreman
@escre
@escre 3 жыл бұрын
Randy Boy Jr.
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 3 жыл бұрын
That's always happening in boxing, and unexpected things happen.
@genehauser3913
@genehauser3913 3 жыл бұрын
Like most heavyweight fights in those days, I was watching. I was a big Ali fan and I knew he'd been beaten. I was devastated, but I knew he'd be back. Another great video!
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 Жыл бұрын
That 70's HW era was freaking insane! Ali, Fraizer, Foreman, Norton, Holmes and I'll even throw Ron Lyle and Ernie Shavers in there. Even the contenders like Shavers and Lyle could have beaten the aforementioned champions on even given night if the champs weren't on there A game. Absolute golden age of Heavyweight boxing.
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 10 ай бұрын
@SteelerzReignSupremeII His era was 50's and 60's
@rm3869
@rm3869 3 жыл бұрын
RIP to both legends
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 3 жыл бұрын
Ali actually fought really well for having a broken jaw most of the fight.
@freddiereagan6705
@freddiereagan6705 3 жыл бұрын
Rocky with a broken nose still win a fight but Ali is better since he is faster
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 3 жыл бұрын
@@freddiereagan6705 Rocky fights ain't real dude 😂
@freddiereagan6705
@freddiereagan6705 3 жыл бұрын
@@youtoo2233 i meant real Rocky Marciano
@jayedwards1205
@jayedwards1205 3 жыл бұрын
Ali didn’t have a broken jaw thruout the fight ...it was broken in the final round, as Norton always said
@unknownjohnson6137
@unknownjohnson6137 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayedwards1205 were you there in the ring to check?
@AKoboldsAdventures
@AKoboldsAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
These fight breakdown videos are some of the best content on KZbin
@gavinhedleygreenslade8209
@gavinhedleygreenslade8209 2 жыл бұрын
They're among the most knowledgeable, certainly.
@ZergrushEddie
@ZergrushEddie 2 жыл бұрын
The fortitude of these legends is insane. Ali has a broken jaw, gets right back into the fight and still takes powerful blows to the face and hardly falters. A punch in the head hurts as is but with an already broken bone? Sheesh...
@ryand141
@ryand141 2 жыл бұрын
Ali doesn't get enough credit for how tough he was. Also, Ali dances. He's the greatest. Money dances, and he's a pussy not a fighter. Any fighter that looks to get punched in the face is a clown.
@datadavis
@datadavis 2 жыл бұрын
Adrenaline is one helluva drug
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
Smdh, can't even imagine the pain, and he fought Norton six months later, no fear.
@lancertheanswer6351
@lancertheanswer6351 3 жыл бұрын
Styles truly make fights. A well-earned victory for the "Jaw Breaker." On a side note, It's somewhat hard to watch 70's Ali compared to watching his pre-exile form.
@BruteStrength99
@BruteStrength99 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but judging from the Chuvalo fight I don't know how he would've fought the 70s heavyweights that way.
@HunchoHamza
@HunchoHamza 3 жыл бұрын
Ali not getting knocked out and fighting from round 2 on our w a broken jaw is truly legendary! He never been knocked out truly the goat!
@fwp502_-_3
@fwp502_-_3 3 жыл бұрын
Even harder to watch Ali post-Manila.
@rayreem3846
@rayreem3846 3 жыл бұрын
Now u talking boxing boss 🤜🏾🤛🏾
@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989
@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989 3 жыл бұрын
Nah some of alis best fights are post exile, maybe that because he became so much worse that it finally made fights actually fair on his opponents lmao
@EthnHayabusa
@EthnHayabusa 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a fight. I love Ali so much, I have always struggled to watch his defeats. Norton was so good. Thanks!
@anthonyminor3160
@anthonyminor3160 3 жыл бұрын
I am the same way. I don’t like watching him lose.
@68majortom
@68majortom Жыл бұрын
Me too, it's tough to take & his final 2 Fights v Holmes & Berbick I refuse to watch & I never will, as far as I'm concerned they shouldn't even be on his Record!!
@heisensperg9264
@heisensperg9264 3 жыл бұрын
Ken Norton is one of the most underappreciated boxers of all time especially underappreciated for the legendary heavyweight he was
@briang.7206
@briang.7206 2 жыл бұрын
Mr T on the show "A Team" beats Ken Norton it was fun to watch. Norton was,a bad guy so I guess Mr T had to be the winner.
@UBboxing
@UBboxing 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this fight. One of the best I’ve seen. Amazing video once again. Can’t wait for the next 2. These videos are very in-depth and any new boxing fan should watch these. Gives you an insight on what really happens in match’s rather then just savage swinging. This is the sweet science for a reason
@jimmaculate5
@jimmaculate5 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to watch Ali get beaten up so badly.
@ninjadad3769
@ninjadad3769 2 жыл бұрын
There’s just always been something about Ali’s fighting style that I love to watch, his head movement and foot work speed, he was before my time really, but it’s not just his fights and style of fighting but watching some of his interviews not just the flout like a butterfly sting like a bee either there’s a couple that would give me goosebumps because he was cocky and confident but I really believe he was a kind hearted soul there was one where he was saying he hope he would leave a cup of kindness a spoonful of caring that really gets you in your feels. And now with Tyson he was a straight up monster but hearing him talk in some of his interviews completely changed my pre conceived precession of him. Great content to man I really enjoy your breakdowns of these legendary fights and fighters.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
When fighting a title fight in Germany once Ali bought all the servicemen on base tickets to attend, a really good hearted person. After he retired he went to Syria and talked Assad into releasing 8 American hostages without any media fanfare, Ali is the GOAT
@Justin23908
@Justin23908 3 жыл бұрын
Great Job David, the 2nd one is my favorite Ali fight ever actually so looking forward to that one. He was in excellent shape for that fight
@mizofan
@mizofan 3 жыл бұрын
He showed his great will in that fight, the last round was crucial in his career, i remember it well, we had not long got a TV.
@Justin23908
@Justin23908 3 жыл бұрын
@@mizofan Your so right. He looked like that round was the decision maker round and he came out with his greatness. I would call it a reserve he was saving, but he was active every round before that.
@Head318Hunter
@Head318Hunter 3 жыл бұрын
7:10 Norton Jive walkin back to his corner. Meanwhile Ali walking back to his corner thinking "who IS this guy and WTF is going on right now??"
@MrBanks2024
@MrBanks2024 2 жыл бұрын
The fact Ali got people back in rematches is what keeps his record better than anyone's at the time. If he didn't come back, risking double losses, to put the record straight, and just cut to Foreman for example, there would be a lot more debate about who was very best of the era. So many other characters would opt for an easier route.
@johnrife7134
@johnrife7134 3 жыл бұрын
Watching these fights highlights the weakness of the fight game today. The guys today maybe twice as big but almost all of them are short on heart and character.
@Hearsticles
@Hearsticles 3 жыл бұрын
My man Usyk came out as a complete underdog and fought a brilliant fight full of heart and character today. There are guys who still have it.
@armbarsandstreettacos5485
@armbarsandstreettacos5485 3 жыл бұрын
This is an inaccurate statement.
@barrybarnes96
@barrybarnes96 3 жыл бұрын
Andy Ruiz got up off the canvas after taking a punch that would KO a horse and won the belt from Joshua...they're not all without character.
@cvance37
@cvance37 3 жыл бұрын
If you put the 70's fighters in todays weight lifting, strength training and diet, they would all have at least another 10-15 pounds of muscle. Prime in shape Ali of the 70's would have fought at a chiseled 230 (not puffy) and a puffy but still effective (250) Fraizer would easily be about Tyson size. chiseled 215 - 220. Foreman a good chiseled 245
@anuradhamalhotra6299
@anuradhamalhotra6299 3 жыл бұрын
No man they're just fat and short
@Robban.D.Jonsson.
@Robban.D.Jonsson. 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a Norton video, I've been waiting for ages for this one.
@brendonleary
@brendonleary 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so damned good. I truly hope you are getting a decent purse of all the work you put in, because it is stellar. I will be forever in your debt.
@CFOrigins
@CFOrigins 3 жыл бұрын
Another great narration David, Thanks
@whatahwatwhaat
@whatahwatwhaat 3 жыл бұрын
Pure brilliance, I love your Ali breakdowns, so we NEED Williams vs Ali next! Edit: OKAY STOP ARGUING! Maybe Zora Folley instead of Williams?
@UBboxing
@UBboxing 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a video that wylies boxing has done on it. Pretty good watch
@whatahwatwhaat
@whatahwatwhaat 3 жыл бұрын
@@UBboxing I’ll watch it! Thx
@Confucius202
@Confucius202 3 жыл бұрын
Williams was an half invalid when he fought Ali
@wonderfool1772
@wonderfool1772 3 жыл бұрын
Dont need a break down on that. Williams was past it and got dominated in every way physically possible
@crazykocounters4741
@crazykocounters4741 3 жыл бұрын
No, that's just comlete toture of a lifeless fighter. That's like asking Holmes vs Ali breakdown.
@DILFDylF
@DILFDylF 3 жыл бұрын
Aw yea bois, I've been waitin' for this, rubbin' my tiny little hands together and cackling
@jacobwilliams5271
@jacobwilliams5271 3 жыл бұрын
' The butterfly's wing's have been clipped. The bee has lost it's stinger. You're finished" My god the poetic savagery in those few lines.
@sebastianblackfyre
@sebastianblackfyre 3 жыл бұрын
Badass Norton
@sebastianblackfyre
@sebastianblackfyre 3 жыл бұрын
I think Ken Norton can learn one or two things from Ali and Young. Ali was best against big framing sluggers that used guard manipulations well like Foreman. Young was by far the top 5 best defensive heavyweight in the 70s in my my opinion and was probably also one of the most adaptable. Norton had a 80 inch reach, 6’3, and was shown to be able to cut rings in a literal movement and switch into Ali’s style when sparing Fraizer. I think he could have gone the distance with Foreman and possibly also win.
@Mindlabytinth
@Mindlabytinth 3 жыл бұрын
this fight is so good even the ref's footwork is on point
@Metromania2022
@Metromania2022 Жыл бұрын
Ali was given some gift decisions in his career, Norton was one of them.
@OscillatorCollective
@OscillatorCollective 2 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite classic fights. I’m such a mark for NORTON.
@C45-w4o
@C45-w4o 3 жыл бұрын
The 70s era was like was filled with legends. Like shark infested waters.
@ascendantking2178
@ascendantking2178 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A free for all
@Alexander1997T
@Alexander1997T 4 ай бұрын
Nostalgia... they were average
@LeahSpeno
@LeahSpeno 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant analysis. Very insightful. Please break down Ali-Norton 2 so we can see how Ali changed his tactics.
@aaronweigerber5313
@aaronweigerber5313 3 жыл бұрын
No mentioning of likes or subs! I'm getting so tired of these! Love it! Liked it right away
@Rumpole1000
@Rumpole1000 3 жыл бұрын
What a great fight this was and you've done excellent work in helping us re-live it.
@johnryan9626
@johnryan9626 2 жыл бұрын
I met Ken Norton a long time ago at St. John's Hospital in Springfield, Illinois. What a great guy ! He seen me looking at him and he stopped shook my hand and talked to me. Great Guy
@sgtgeneweenie
@sgtgeneweenie 2 жыл бұрын
Ali is the greatest for many reasons; the fact he fought the best array of competitors is one of them.
@kincaidnichols2517
@kincaidnichols2517 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yes, more Ali fights! I love these videos, along with all the golden age fights.
@fuyu5979
@fuyu5979 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis breakdown of the fight. Always learn something from watching ur videos. Kudos to u. Anticipating ur next one.
@BestWayKilla
@BestWayKilla 3 жыл бұрын
Eddie Futch really had Ali solved, it was two of his fighters who beat him decisively and gave him the toughest fights of his career.
@eddy-currents
@eddy-currents 3 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing fight and one of the best breakdowns for sure.
@GabelhelmSogarbraten
@GabelhelmSogarbraten 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this treat thank you so much you got me from not caring about boxing at all to being absolutely obsessed with it
@Th0ughtZ_
@Th0ughtZ_ 2 жыл бұрын
Norton was super underrated.
@rebeltvr6046
@rebeltvr6046 2 жыл бұрын
Ali broke his jaw in round 2, still went 12. Shows how tough he was. One of the toughest chins ever.
@dustinhellberg3606
@dustinhellberg3606 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a great channel. Thank you for the hard work. I think the first one I watched ages ago was on Willie Pep. Excellent breakdown of his footwork.
@niazkhawaja
@niazkhawaja 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing breakdown, specially the last note 📝 Thanks David..god bless
@jk_46
@jk_46 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown, love the content! Something I didn't think of initially was that Ali probably knew he couldn't dance every round because he didn't take this fight serious as mentioned and probably didn't train hard enough. Ken's body shots sapping the little energy he had left to dance by round 10 had just made everything worse for Ali. And the 8th round footage seems to indicate his jaw might have been broken and the 2nd round punch that wobbled him could very well have been the punch that caused it as Ali had said it was round 2 when it happened.
@QNoland
@QNoland 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic breakdown! You are a great combat sports mind.
@Anna-tl6oz
@Anna-tl6oz 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for so long, thanks David!
@Athalfuns
@Athalfuns 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are absolute gold! Thank you so much for all the work you put into them and sharing them with us. Much love from Portugal!
@blueterminal7495
@blueterminal7495 2 жыл бұрын
Both Norton and Ali were very scientific, smart, quick thinking fighters and came to mind to mind games when it was between them two. Specially the first and second fights. I would say the first one is an excellent display of mind games. Eddie Futch made a great analysis of Ali's fighting style. Ali on the other hand had thought Norton would go off as anybody else. Ali did a great effort though, pulling out all the tricks in his book. Norton won fair and square and 100% shown Ali was soundly beat, both physically and mentally. But it was awesome how the whole reverse would happen in their second fight. You should do an analysis of the second fight as well. This one was awesome!
@mscir
@mscir 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT analysis, the endurance and quick learning and adjustments Norton made were amazing. Looking fwd to the rematch analysis. Great work. Thank you.
@frankmorris2603
@frankmorris2603 3 жыл бұрын
Epic stuff. The ref needs some credit too. You don't see footwork from many refs like that now. And how old is he ???
@chunky9791
@chunky9791 2 жыл бұрын
How can you not love fights like this? Kudos to the person who had the balls to write Ali & say "The butterfly has been clipped, bee lost its stinger". Bet they never imagined 50 plus years later that paper would be showed on a phone app cause Ali used it as motivation!
@TheSmarq17
@TheSmarq17 3 жыл бұрын
I remember most of these great heavyweights, but mostly in their later days since I was so young. I truly enjoy all your vids, especially from the older eras, being a lifelong boxing fan. My "expertise" began in the 80s with the great welterweights and my favorite boxer of all-time will always be Alexis Arguello. I hope you can do more of his great fights some time soon. From one boxing fan to another: thank you for your great work and I look forward to more and more in the future.
@ayoubhamdi6922
@ayoubhamdi6922 2 жыл бұрын
2
@christopher19894
@christopher19894 2 жыл бұрын
This fight was like a slow, maneuvering chess game, with a closed center. A battle of patience and attrition.
@joeypierantonis7576
@joeypierantonis7576 2 жыл бұрын
Ali's worst deficiency, as was normally the case, was underestimating his opponent, which was followed by a lack of training & preparation...(also a lack of motivation) Norton was probably the 4th best HW at that time. Never underestimate Kenny.
@johnaustin209
@johnaustin209 Жыл бұрын
Ali is so overhyped and overrated (yes I say so) that people easily forget he got his ass whopped well a couple times.
@giovelazquez8872
@giovelazquez8872 Жыл бұрын
@@johnaustin209yeah but he never got knocked out
@mendelevium2768
@mendelevium2768 Жыл бұрын
*immediately collapsed at the Thrilla in Manila*
@giovelazquez8872
@giovelazquez8872 Жыл бұрын
@@mendelevium2768 when bruh
@rishikeshovhal2810
@rishikeshovhal2810 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Christian this was a great breakdown again. Please do the breakdown of 2nd and 3rd fight with Norton too. I searched them before too on your channel. You're a master at breaking down the fights. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
@STREETBEEFS_
@STREETBEEFS_ 3 жыл бұрын
amazing breakdown
@jimmyc1518
@jimmyc1518 2 жыл бұрын
You're the best in the bizz man, really enjoy these breakdowns and your vast knowledge and understanding of the sport and techniques etc always shows me the fight I didn't see in real time an always learn new stuff, keep up the great work 👍
@nagabilly
@nagabilly 3 жыл бұрын
Norton was the rare type of fighter who fared better against technicians and defensive fighters than brawlers
@719603
@719603 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an excellent video. I thought of Norton as just a hard hitter and you really showed his skills. Also showed that styles make the fight and how you struggle with one opponent easy clap another.
@jakemartin4305
@jakemartin4305 3 жыл бұрын
That's why Ali was the greatest not cause he never lost its cause he always came back and won and did in a way that showed everyone that he's better 👏👍
@fearlessartist3457
@fearlessartist3457 3 жыл бұрын
It's just crazy that in a third fight Ali was in bad shape and older yet somehow he managed to beat prime Ken Norton. Ali is The G.O.A.T.
@fatrobdouble
@fatrobdouble 3 жыл бұрын
@@fearlessartist3457 if you watch that third fight, that decision was an absolute joke. By any measurable objective, Norton won the third fight by a margin. (The second fight was incredibly close.) Those aren't judges that night; those were Ali's adoring fans.
@johnh8546
@johnh8546 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatrobdouble I agree Ali lost at least twice to Norton and would have lost twice to Frazier if he was allowed out for their 45th round. I also don't think he would have beat big George if they fought again.
@fatrobdouble
@fatrobdouble 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnh8546 i agree on all counts, and while i understand why Eddie threw in the towel, i kinda wish he hasn't bc i think Joe would've taken him out. Ali's defeat over George Foreman was incredibly impressive, but the ways he ducked George afterwards were shameful. I don't think he could have beat him a second time, and apparently, Ali didn't believe he could, either. I recognize Ali's greatness; it's clearly apparent. But equally apparent is the illusory nature of casual fans' perception of him. He was great, for sure, one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. But he was also flawed, as a boxer and as a human being.
@johnh8546
@johnh8546 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatrobdouble I agree don't take my comment to say that Ali wasn't a great boxer but he wasn't the greatest not in my mind.
@boyoffall5478
@boyoffall5478 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the rematch!!. Love your videos.
@MattanzaMafiaFedora
@MattanzaMafiaFedora 3 жыл бұрын
Great work as always, David! Also, for a future video, can you please break down Joe Calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins? I wonder who that note was from?
@MattanzaMafiaFedora
@MattanzaMafiaFedora 3 жыл бұрын
@A l p h e u s Maybe Frazier?
@MattanzaMafiaFedora
@MattanzaMafiaFedora 3 жыл бұрын
@A l p h e u s They certainly hated each other enough for it.
@MattanzaMafiaFedora
@MattanzaMafiaFedora 3 жыл бұрын
@A l p h e u s I still need to read some of that.
@williedesmond8201
@williedesmond8201 3 жыл бұрын
B hop was old and still gave joe a great fight
@Jake-pm3pz
@Jake-pm3pz 3 жыл бұрын
@@williedesmond8201 Yes he was old but he was the champion, top 3 p4p and won the wbc, wba and ibf world titles after losing against calzaghe. So he was still one of the best boxers in the world despite his age.
@Golden108
@Golden108 2 жыл бұрын
The best blow by blow boxing breakdowns and analysis of them all.
@frankhyland6333
@frankhyland6333 3 жыл бұрын
Norton was easily in the top five heavyweights of the era. Tough guy inside the ring, a nice guy outside.
@vistarecords4930
@vistarecords4930 3 жыл бұрын
As has been noted, boxing is all about the style matchups. Norton and Frazier gave Ali his toughest fights. Foreman CRUSHED Norton and Frazier. Ali dominated Foreman (it wasn't just 7 rounds of rope-a-dope and then the knockout - Ali dominated the fight, letting Foreman swing wildly doing no damage, and then Ali would counter once Foreman got winded and Ali was the MUCH more accurate puncher). Norton gave Larry Holmes a tough, tough fight, almost retaining his Heavyweight Title (Norton had been appointed champion when Ali vacated the title to rematch Leon Spinks). After that though, Norton was past his prime and couldn't avoid punches the way he had been able to in '74. But Norton owned Ali. He beat him soundly in the first fight, and should have gotten the decision in the third. Norton's style matched up really well against Ali.
@eyoulmein4506
@eyoulmein4506 3 жыл бұрын
Your vids are so great I rewatch them daily
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I have channels I do that with too, feels great to know some do the same with mine.
@adamsasso1
@adamsasso1 3 жыл бұрын
That was a really fantastic breakdown. Nicely done!
@erelfink8822
@erelfink8822 3 жыл бұрын
Could you go over the LaMotta Robinson saga?
@delphidelion
@delphidelion 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the others in this series. I honestly think you are the best at breaking down fights.
@luqmannajib5483
@luqmannajib5483 3 жыл бұрын
We need the rematch breakdown asap
@audriusa7005
@audriusa7005 2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable and insightful breakdown, can't wait for second part. I've fallen in love with your content and can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge
@jacobjorgenson9315
@jacobjorgenson9315 3 жыл бұрын
George Chuvalo deserves mentioning as well. Class act and an all time tough guy. To quote Mr. Chuvalo after his loss to ali "He went to the hospital, I went dancing with my wife."
@beneverett2392
@beneverett2392 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute stellar content. Your analysis is unmatched. Much love.
@markhulce6124
@markhulce6124 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I always liked Norton--as a fighter and as a man. . . In my opinion Norton didn't lose any of his fights with Ali.
@johnnypat0346
@johnnypat0346 3 жыл бұрын
Such a good breakdown. Good job. Waiting for the rematch
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 3 жыл бұрын
This series has taught me so much about boxing. I used to think Ali was fundamentally unsound and got away with it because of his speed -- I never knew there was so much going on behind the unorthodox tactics.
@vailima49aston99
@vailima49aston99 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful analysis loved it one of my all time favourite trilogies Ali v Norton thanks for your videos man 👍🏽
@TheAtheistRanger
@TheAtheistRanger 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Norton was robbed in his 3rd fight with Ali. No one can convince that Norton isnt the only man to beat Ali twice. I have and will always believe that.
@Robban.D.Jonsson.
@Robban.D.Jonsson. 3 жыл бұрын
I would consider Frazier the winner of their third match as well.
@victorianicolau9431
@victorianicolau9431 3 жыл бұрын
@@Robban.D.Jonsson. :/
@free2player553
@free2player553 3 жыл бұрын
"Robbed" is bad word for this. The fight was VERY close and either guy getting the nod would have made sense. I personally scored it for Ali, but I can easily see why someone would score it for Norton instead.
@ManiacMageetheG
@ManiacMageetheG 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown. You're the best in the biz.
@tcf2142
@tcf2142 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a breakdown of Cleveland Big Cat Williams Vs Ali .... As always great video
@crazykocounters4741
@crazykocounters4741 3 жыл бұрын
No, that's just like asking a breakdown of Ali vs Holmes. Williams deserves respect
@tcf2142
@tcf2142 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazykocounters4741 I agree... But ali was at his prime and the footage available of the fight is of comparatively better quality
@crazykocounters4741
@crazykocounters4741 3 жыл бұрын
@@tcf2142 At least Terrell vs Ali breakdown is better.
@active.7universal
@active.7universal 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazykocounters4741 not at all like Ali Holmes,, Ali was completely shot while cat Williams had 11 or more victories after losing to Ali ..
@crazykocounters4741
@crazykocounters4741 3 жыл бұрын
@@active.7universal kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWjFZYFvp7dkodE
@enigmaodell6806
@enigmaodell6806 3 жыл бұрын
Real wit and grit on display here. good to see.
@snm1michaelmma82
@snm1michaelmma82 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest era in Heavyweight boxing history, led by the greatest heavyweight of all time.
@UBboxing
@UBboxing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed buddy
@binewtv2214
@binewtv2214 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest athlete of all time
@SULTYAN23
@SULTYAN23 9 ай бұрын
I love the commentating breakdown. Awesome work brother!!!
@charlesfrazier9700
@charlesfrazier9700 3 жыл бұрын
People don’t talk enough about Ali’s sheer toughness.
@mysteryman480
@mysteryman480 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly tough (and very fit too). However, heavyweights were much smaller then than they are now. I think that rope-a-dope could not work nearly as well these days.
@johnaustin209
@johnaustin209 2 жыл бұрын
That "Toughness" would come back to haunt him later....Foreman's the one not shaking like Ali in his older age.
@SouthpawsRule217
@SouthpawsRule217 Жыл бұрын
@@johnaustin209 ali's parkinson was genetic
@johnaustin209
@johnaustin209 Жыл бұрын
@@SouthpawsRule217 Yeah right.
@esdrasmakumbi4438
@esdrasmakumbi4438 Жыл бұрын
@@johnaustin209yea many people who never boxed get Parkinson
@antony9630
@antony9630 3 жыл бұрын
More Muhammad Ali analysis videos pls, I cant wait for Ali vs Norton II !!!!
@lukegould873
@lukegould873 3 жыл бұрын
Must say, this is easily some of the best MMA/boxing content on KZbin, you’ve earned full respect and much love. Keep making excellent content man. I hope to see the day your subscriber count and views match the quality of content, as I have to give credit for you being the reason I took up training. Soon gonna purchase one of your books and I’m very excited!
@UBboxing
@UBboxing 3 жыл бұрын
Well said brother
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist 3 жыл бұрын
Man my channel is so niche I'm bigger than I have any right to be haha. Glad to hear I got you hooked on training!
@lukegould873
@lukegould873 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheModernMartialArtist and classy too. Keep it up man seriously I’m sure what your doing here is gonna get a lot of good people and young ones in the gym learning about discipline and showing them how fun and exciting exercise can be.
@xentakis
@xentakis 3 жыл бұрын
Really great breakdown, you’ve given me a new perspective on a classic. Looking forward to the breakdown of the rematch!
@LiteralmenteFadul
@LiteralmenteFadul 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the great underrated fights imo
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist 3 жыл бұрын
Like Ali vs Frazier 2, I think it was damaged over time by bad camera angles. I would love to see this fight with the angles they had for The Fight of the Century.
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