5 Reasons to Choose 357 SIG

[@103959770979]

Im agree in most points, im a former Air Force MP and I been trained with handguns, my personal carry gun is a Sig Sauer P229 in 357 Sig caliber.

[@salg.5153]

Same here. It's so flat shooting and at astounding distances

[@offthewallhobbyman6978]

I carry a Sig 229 Legion .357 sig as well. I dont have any complaints. I agree with information provided in this video. I dont always carry the same firearm, I also carry glock 43 9mm at times. I like all calibers for different reasons.

[@klk1900]

So I bought the Glock 32 gen 4 just upgraded awhile back! I got into the 357sig a few years ago. I’m a CRNA I put people out for surgery. I do the same thing as an anesthesiologist does just not a MD. So we had a patient that was shot 1x in the upper left quadrant of the abdominal cavity with a 65gr 2100FPS round and the reason I changed from a 9mil is this poor guy had his insides tore apart. He had multiple liver and kidney injuries on the right side when he was shot on the left abdominal quad. My buddy the surgeon he’s a big gun dude we are in Texas so grew up with them. He found absolutely no fragments or anything but had severe damage. Surgery was 11hrs of non-stop repairs and we ended up not closing just took him to ICU and left him open, with packing of course. But the surgeon finally came to the conclusion the injuries were from the supersonic shockwave. That 65gr round did way more damage than 140gr or higher gr rounds do because the lighter round was moving so fast. So the speeds to send it home. At 2100FPS=1,431MPH/MACH 1.86. Anyway the damage we saw, keep in mind this surgeon has operated on 3500+gun shot victims and he said the only time he’s seen damage like that was with a .223 and higher rifle round. The guy was dropped to the ground because the shockwave hit his liver and sent him into orbit! That was the first symptom then obviously a few seconds later all the other damage kicked in. So literally the next day the surgeon and I went to our gun store and got us the 357 sig with tons of ammo but we got light fast rounds for self defense and still use them years later. I’m using some 1850FPS ammo for self defense. But had y’all seen the damage y’all would switch over. If you don’t have good pistol skills then you probably wouldn’t like it. I’ve replaced everything in my Glock. I have a threaded barrel with a brake so the recoil is non existent. Suppresor is smooth on it also. I’ve had a reloading press forever for my 30 guns just because it’s easy and cheap so I can save money to buy more guns I don’t need haha so i do my own load of a 2100FPS round. I use for my carry mag. The mag I keep in the weapon I have 1850s and then my backup mag I have the 2100 +/- 30FPS.

[@mathewashley06]

Making a public statement on your choice of carry round being fully dependent on first hand experience in the devastation conducted on a human target sure wouldnt look good for your self-defense claims in court after shooting someone Einstein.... Use your brains bud

[@FatalError501]

As a G31 owner , I thought you explained the analogy of this " PARTICULAR " handgun beautifully . Thank you for the time you put into the research and review , very educational , much appreciated .

[@johnstockton8138]

I have a 40 sw glock 22, picked up a 357 sig 10 inch barrel and put it in a pdw conversion kit recover tactical. Got myself a rifle like gun. The 357 sig benefits a lot more from a longer barrel than other semi-auto rounds. The underwood 65 grain 357 sig gets 2100 fps 637 foot pounds out of a 4 inch, but at 16 inch it reaches 1000 foot pounds 2700 fps. at 10 in it is like 800 to 900 foot pounds at around 2500 fps, these are like 60 -70% of the ballistics of a .223 of similar grain size. I use 40 sw as a short range handgun, but when I want more accuracy and power out at longer range Im going with my 10 incn 357 sig barrel setup.

[@yassitsjustin9617]

I own a glock 33 and it's my primary carry. If you're looking for stopping power, comfort and reliability. This is the way to go. Costly but you can't put a price on your own life.

[@andyamysarizonaadventures5450]

I disagreed last year about the 357sig being better and boasted the .40 I since shot a Sig at a steel tank and at different objects at over a 100 yards. Not only was a 357 Sig far more accurate but the sound that it made and the deeper dents that it put in the empty steel tank made the 40 seem like a weak little pop gun I since sold both of my 40s.Also the Paul Harrell video where he compares the 2 loads in different meat targets Etc he used the weaker side of 357 Sig by hornaday I use the Underwood and gold Load very very powerful major difference.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

yup, one heck of a round.

[@pissedoff689]

I have the Glock 32c (357 sig) I have the ports cut in the barrel and the slide to lessen recoil, you should see the fire (verticle) jump out of that thing, I draw a crowd at the range every time.

[@robpelick7460]

357 sig is a fine round, no doubt. But it is more expensive, the mags hold less rounds and in penetration tests I've seen, does not perform any better than comparable 9mm ammo. So like you, I'm quite satisfied with my choice and see no reason to change.

[@CassinoG]

Well Done Video!!! I still am surprised that people are on the fence about the venerable 357 SIG load. You've laid out all the major points very well. The Glock 31 is one of the best platforms for this round too! Make sure to try it out in a SIG P226 as well!!

[@rocky66]

My glock 32 gen 4 is my conceal carry over the many .45 glocks and 1911's i own for the power, the slim design and accuracy. 45 acp, 10mm and .357 sig are my favorite handgun calibers, my time in the us army made me throughly dislike the 9mm, not saying there is anything wrong with that caliber by any means. Excellent video with lots of good information.

[@RoosterEastwood]

I'm with you on 9's. They make dents where other rounds make entrance and exit holes.

[@cowboysruntheeast8603]

.357 Sig is the best handgun, hands down.

[@Lanlawns]

.357sig is a caliber not a handgun, If you said a Sig Sauer P229 chambered in .357 sig I would agree

[@Itsallnyermind4]

Some good points made in this vid. Practice with your 9mm for the cost factor and carry the .357sig. Also by having a full-size 9mm pistol and a compact size .40 in the same gun/format....all you need to do is swap out the .40 barrel to a .357 sig, two guns in one- very practice and you have multiple guns in case of ammo shortage, and you can still use whatever you find on the shelf. 25% more increase is substantial especially when you have recorded incidents of attack dogs taking multiple shots of 9mm but being stopped dead in their tracks after just 1 or two shots of .357sig. There's a reason why the US president's secret service and air Marshall's are carrying .357 sig. Not to mention several LEO's who have been happy with the results. That alone convinces me.

[@fedjamocibob2901]

Congrats'man!! Excellent explanation for everyone to understand -not like ballistics warriors of KZbin... Btw. I agree with you 100%. Keep the good work!!!

[@johnthomas6405]

Nice easy to understand stats and info regarding those calibers, and associated info. Nice job!

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

The Glock 31 is a 357 SIG gun that runs PERFECT just with a 40S&W barrel, same mags, same everything. With a 9mm barrel (and for better reliability 9mm mags too) you can shoot 9mm as well evne if it would be more reliable with the 40S&W/357SIG setup.

[@rondalewhite6459]

Check out the underwood 357 sig

[@nathanhnathanh7460]

Just picked up a Glock 33 yesterday.. Great info...

[@robertstonebreaker8394]

yes I do agree .357 Sig is one hot chili pepper.

[@LateNightCable]

9mm can be found everywhere, until there's none left because everybody with a nine bought it all up. Sometimes it's easier to find the less common ammo because it is less common. Very high demand for more conventional rounds.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

You wont regret it. You want the best, thats exactly what you'll get. Hope you enjoy my book!

[@jimh4949]

use the 357sig for home defense and carry ammo, and use the 40s&w for range, Why?, because 357sig ammo is more than the 40s&w.

[@nateo200]

Its a good tactic. .357SIG is simply a .40S&W necked down and thus the only real difference is the barrel. Extractor, firing pin, mags, etc. are the same. For a Glock you don't even need a dedicated conversion barrel like you would going .40 to 9mm, just buy a much cheaper factory barrel in .357 of proper equal size to your .40 barrel and your good or do it the other way around. Although KKM makes excellent barrels and I would consider that in a heart beat if I was running .40/.357SIG.

[@Banshee365]

nateo200 357 Sig is NOT simply a necked for 40 S&W necked down to a 9mm....

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

Cheaper to load though. All my brass is free pick-ups from the local LE range and .355” projectiles are usually cheaper than .400” projectiles.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

The problem with .necked down 45 or 10mm cases for that matter is that it requires a bigger gun. A 10mm necked down to 9mm would make a super 357 SIG, but then its a bigger gun and may be just too powerful for fast follow up shots.

[@MrZonacat1]

I totally agree. Get all the edge you can get. I practice with my Glock 19 most of the time to save money but also practice enough with my Glock 32 in 357 Sig to be good with it if that day we all dread ever arrives.

[@johnnyappleseed4386]

I love the 357sig. I've got the Glock 31 compensated, this thing is a beast !

[@elmoprince6669]

Im on my 3rd glock 31 in 357 sig and i love the 357 sig round. It has plenty of stopping power and enough velocity. I will stick with my 357 sig and my secret service friends agree with me!!

[@HebroKeevin]

I have found that shooting a bonded JHP through steel with a 357 sig works as well as a flat point, the nose compresses into a ball and goes all the way through with no fragmentation and same penetration. Seen it with my own eyes swear to it. btw I was shooting through numerous saw blades comparing it to other calibers.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Thanks. It is true that if you want the versatility of the 357 magnum, then the 357 SIG is not going to work for you. But keep in mind that the load the 357 SIG is trying to replicate (and does very well) is the 125gr bullet at 1400 fps. Thats the 357 magnum load that has the best stoping power track record. Heaveir bullets with greater penetration are better for hunting, as in LSWC 158gr. 1200fps for a 9mm 147gr sounds like pushing it, what manufacturer makes that load? Buffalo Bore ?

[@paulhurley3612]

I really like the .357 SIG but I keep a G20 Gen4 for the woods and a G19 Gen3 for the hoods Lol... Great video man!!! #StaySafe & #StayBlessed 😎👍

[@probey76227]

From the geek in me its simple to work out, KE produced is 1/2mv(sq) = half the mass times the (velocity squared) very simple, the faster, the better, and a small increase in velocity (speed) makes a huge difference in force :) and we are not going to talk about force over area that is pushing the projectile, bottom line, .357 sig is made to hit people hard at close range, which is ideal for a handgun.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

45 GAP in Corbons DPX has Bullet Wt.: 160gr DPX Velocity: 1075fps Energy: 411ftlbs I dont see how its better.

[@UncleSiam]

They're referring to having to take the ammunition from others or from someones storage and its not as likely to find .357 sig ammo. Although because most won't use it, they will possibly leave them although they could still salvage the bullet, gunpowder etc so they'll probably take them as well.

[@yaahme]

Great points made there Fernando, cept I like my SIG 226 converted to 357 Sig. It came as a 40 cal framed P226 and I picked up a Bar Sto barrel for the conversion and now I have 40 cal and 357 sig cal in the same fine handgun - sweet and highly recommended. It's as easy as pie to switch barrels too.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Hey BBKnls, as Materferguson pointed out, you can play that same game with 357 SIG. Whenever people bring up a hot rodded 9mm, they seem to miss the point that you can ALWAYS put more powder in a bigger case, so a hot 357 SIG will still beat a hot 9mm by 200 fps. Underwoods 357 SIG clocks 1511 fps out of a G32. Out of a G31 it will be at least 1550fps!! placing the 357SIG in a different world of energy than 9mm.

[@celticwarrior916]

Short from ordering it only online it is nearly impossible, most gun stores anywhere in northern California do not carry any selection of 357 sig. I dont like to be limited to only buying my preps online and depending on that to be my source.

[@jeffdonner1912]

I own a Glock 22 Gen 3. But I also have a .357 Sig barrel, for the main reason that I see .357 Sig on the shelf when the .40 S&W is not there. I think people shy away from .357 Sig due to the cost. I agree will your analisys of the .357 Sig. I have 4 boxes of .357 Sig in my gunsafe in case I cannot find .40 S&W.

[@CassinoG]

As long as you chose the proper load, (i.e.- Double Tap, Underwood) you will get that punishing massive energy and speed that will exceed an equal weighted 357 MAG. BUT- Like I always say- don't look at the stats and tests- look at who carries it and the reported performance from LEO's and Feds- And it is Outstanding!!!!!

[@Sergi762]

What handgun can be used between those calibers? Are you referring to a particular make or brand? the idea of multiple calibers is a very appealing one.

[@1789000]

whaere have you seen a 147 gr 9mm going anywhere over 1050 fps? 9mm +p leo rounds top out at 1050 fps and the brass i've seen shows that it's about at it's limit....a 147 gr loaded in .357 sig can do 1200 fps - did you get it mixed up? .357 sig 125 gr underwood doing 1500 fps - i don't know of any 9mm even coming close. i shoot the 127 gr 9mm +p+ and it's getting 1250 fps...but it's not touching a sig round

[@T-DsGaming]

357Sig Underwood 125gr Bonded JHP at 1475fps with 604 ft.lbs. of energy, enough said.

[@boedude8496]

KingLT82 40 cal underwood 135gr JHP 1442fps and 623fpe ... wasn't quite enough said

[@buttnaked]

boedude how deep does it generally penetrate tho?!

[@boedude8496]

roughly the same. the little it gives up in velocity and bc is equalized with the little extra mass and energy

[@T-DsGaming]

Underwood's site lists it at 1400fps with 588ft.lbs. of energy, where are you getting your numbers from lol?

[@boedude8496]

KingLT82 as of 10 seconds ago underwood lists 124gr and 125gr @ 1475fps and 604fpe, just as mentioned

[@TheArmedGreek]

Given the current ammo situation I am giving this caliber some serious consideration. I carry a Sig P226 in 40 S&W and am having a hard time consistently finding ammo (I work at Gander Mountain at the gun counter so that says something. However, 357 Sig has been easy to find and it isn't any more expensive than it was. Now it costs the same as everything else and the switch doesn't necessarily require a new gun (if you have a 40). So then it's not a matter of why but why not?

[@dionpiazza4672]

I shot Speer gold dot 124 grain 9mm +p Out of my SIG P 226 and crono 1317fps avg. I have never shot 357 sig. I can't imagine it be faster than that, and if so I am going to run out and get a 357 barrel for my Glock 22. Thank you man!

[@patrickslevin6424]

To Dion: That's good velocity out of your 9mm and you probably don't need any more power to get the job done. But if you bought a 357 SIG barrel for your Glock 22 you would be able to get around 1500 ft/sec. with certain powder bullet combinations. Since you mentioned getting another barrel for your SIG I am assuming you are a reloader, maybe not, but reloading this cartridge is where it's at.

[@patrickslevin6424]

Patrick Slevin I need to say something else: 357 SIG isn't my favorite cartridge, I'm much more fond of the 9mm. That's just me, I like the selection of 9mm's I've acquired over the years and I find that when I look at the different caliber I always buy more reloading components for the 9mm just because I like shooting it best. I'm just saying I've got some time with a 357 SIG and it's truly a great cartridge it has more recoil and flash that 9mm doesn't so I mainly stick with 9. I've got everything from 25acp, 38-357 mags, 40-45 calibers but like my 9mm

[@FitPhysioTherapy]

Dion Piazza I shot Speer gold dot 124 grain 9mm +p Out of my SIG P 226 and crono 1317fps avg. I have never shot 357 sig. I can't imagine it be faster than that, and if so I am going to run out and get a 357 barrel for my Glock 22. Thank you man! Your crono is most likely way off by at least 100 fps - Speer gold dot 124 +p 9mm will not go that fast from a 4.5 inch barrel - maybe from a carbine. Also the 357 sig has untapped potential that really pops from a longer barrel and 1300 fps for 147 grain is quite achievable from 5 or so inches and 1500 fps for 125 from 5 inches.

[@patrickslevin6424]

It isn't with factory ammo thats for sure. You need to load your own to get maximum performance out of it. Factory loads them to (suppose to be) 1350 ft/sec. They do it because too many people, not familiar with guns, like cops, can't shoot them well at higher velocities. They can't shoot them will at reduced velocities either which is whey FBI is floating the 9mm again.

[@FitPhysioTherapy]

EABOY2600 These 357 calibers are not well suited for comparison to each other. The sig is a far far far far better choice as CCW and the mag (in the correct configuration) is better suited as hunting handgun or woods protection from medium size four legged threats. From comfortable CCWs with barrels of 4 inches or less ( total barrel chamber continuum = 4 inch pistol barrel and 2.25 revolver barrel) the 357sig factory ammo will generally EASILY out preform the 357 mag factory ammo using 125 grain bullets maybe even up to 147 grain bullets (with more massive bullets fired from long barrels the 357 mag will out power the sig. The sig is not designed to employ heavy bullets and the magnum is an AWFUL design as a self-defense round in general and particularly when employed from a comfortable short barrel revolver well suited as CCW.

[@strocat25]

I have a full size Sig Sauer P320 in .357 Sig... I love it more than anything. .357 sig is my favorite to shoot. people may not know but you CAN get .357 sig ammo cheap, you just gotta know where to find it. Tomorrow I'm gonna put 50 rounds through my P320.. .357 sig is super fun to shoot at night, it has muzzle flash like no other handgun round.

[@strocat25]

alot of people HATE .357 sig. you know who thats good for?? me and you brother, more to go around!

[@adrianrubi5012]

Be sure to put a light on your gun so the blinding flash won't matter indoors.

[@patrickslevin6424]

Adrian Rubi The flash isn't any worse than any other gun, reference TNOUTDOORS9. He had some night time shoots featuring the SIG

[@DCopp]

+strocat25 tell us where to find it....I just bought some UltraMax reloads for sub $16/50 shipped. I need some cheap hollowpoints though for carry

[@Corysfortunes]

its a great ballance of flat trajectory, good magazine capacity, hard barrier penetration like car doors and walls, long distance shots that are flat out to 55 yards, manageable recoil, great feed, good stopping power, great accuracy, energy as good as a .40 and .45 and sub .357 mag, expansion as good as a .40, .45, awesome penetration, only price could be a factor in why many dont go for it, but hopefully that will change as more people see the valuable round for all its great characteristics

[@Economics70]

How do you respond to James Yeager? He states that you should never use high pressure rounds. He says stick with 9 or 45 instead of .40 and .357 sig.

[@pmorin313]

Proud owner of an XD 357 sig love the performance! Not my EDC however ,it is my home defender take great comfort knowing it will punch through wet plaster walls if god forbid someone enters my home with bad intent...

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Hi! Just get a good set of night sights, I like Meprolights with a front green dot and orange in the back. Others like all green or just the green dot upfront, but do get metal nightsights and get ones that have a square back saight for easier single handed gun operation.

[@jimh4949]

Just remember the chamber pressure is more in the 357sig than the 40 s&w, after time the frame will brake down, its better to down size than go up, for example G31 357sig to 40s&w, rather than G22 40s&w to 357sig. check the to chamber pressure first. I'm not saying it is going to happen right away but though the course of time it will.

[@T-DsGaming]

jim harbin True but it's only a difference of 5kpsi (35k for 40 vs 40k for 357). The people on here spouting to use the 9mm +p and +p+ are upping the standard 9mm frame (35kpsi) to 38.5k for +p and 40k or more for the +p+.

[@TheRustydog42]

A heavier, but a little slower bullet, will penetrate more than a lighter bullet at the same velocity. Modern bullet design has helped to solve this conundrum. The .357 Sig was designed to mimic the ballistics of the 125g .357 Magnum, traveling at about 1300 fps. This it has done remarkably well. If you want to shoot through barriers, like car doors, a solid, non-JHP bullet will do the job, but not have the terminal ballistics in flesh as JHP designs.

[@IamKemosabe]

I have and carry a .357 Sig and I love it I also have a .40 Barrel so I can shoot .40 S&W from the same weapon. My question is how are you going to get .357 Sig after an Economic Collapse? They are hard to find now.

[@CaptainShuffles]

Buy bulk and keep stored in a safe or stashed away in hidey-holes.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

You have more space in the SIG so if you want to push a 9mm you'll always have space for more power than in a 9mm case, generally you'll get100-200 pfs. more. Double Tap makes some hot stuff, they have a 357 SIG in 125gr that goes at 1525fps. Id' still stick to CorBon, Gold Dot or Federal for defense loads.

[@ashleyhill5824]

I have Sig Sauer X5 Mastershop in 357 sig for IPSC in standard division shooting 174 major power factor loads and I love it so much boom for your money and a bloody accurate round to

[@tthomp57]

I'm an instructor too, and have concluded from all my research that the G32 is the best balance of power to capacity in a concealable side arm for "me". I can't really tell much difference in recoil between it and the G19 with the hottest +P+. Also, the Gold Dot 357 sig bullet performs consistently the same, regardless of the velocity.

[@DonCrowleyAzRealtor]

Excellent Video! Although many folks think it is a hard round to find to buy, in reality, you can find it all over the internet. I just purchased 500 rounds of Winchester Bonded Ranger 165 grains for $260.00 plus $32.00 delivery. I also bought 1,000 rounds of high quality reloads for $330.00. I have several Sig 226 ( 9mm, 40 S&W, and .357 SIG ) with extra barrels. The penetration and long range qualities of this round can not be oeverstated

[@steveh2956]

I love the .40 round, .357sig has close ballistics to a .45. (not quite the hitting force or dia.) gotta ask a question, 1425fps or 850-900fps? Thats why iam planning an XD .357 for home defense to go along with my other .40's. Oh ya, .40/.357sig take the same mags!

[@ssstealth]

Accessibility of most calibers is at an all time low :-( I have a G23 with a Lone Wolf 9mm conversion barrel. I'm considering getting the 357sig one too. I bought the G23 and the 9mm barrel at the same time but it took me over a week to get G19 mags. I put a 100rd box of 9mm through the G23 factory magazines and had zero failures. Regardless, I've since acquired G19 mags. The 357sig rounds will feed from the G23 mags no problem. One gun, three chamberings. Accessibility is less of an issue ;-)

[@funshootin1]

underwood gold dot 357 sig is pumping out 1500 fps 125 grain..pretty compelling

[@20cameron1]

It's always amusing that people argue when given the facts. The .357 sig is more lethal and has a more deadly effect on a target. It's just depends on which gives you the most confidence in a self defense situation. I'm sticking with .357 magnum. Either the S&W 640 or S&W 327 Performance. Issues with semis are reliability-could jam and, even though it rarely happens, there is a chance it could go off-bad spring.

[@TheJakobLott]

i went glock 32..... mainly because i already had a g23 and i just bought a 32 barrel.... ferfal is correct....

[@pystolwhip]

I see, I have been wanting to try .357 sig for a while now. Getting a conversion barrel has been hard, it seems everywhere I shop is out of stock, at least the storm lake extended for a full sized m&p. What do you think of .40 tho? I personally would choose a .40 load just because its a wider diameter bullet causing more expansion while have adequate expansion. I see why people would choose the .357 sig (basically a hot 9mm) for penetration and the trajectory thing but to me .40 is enough.

[@faksen13]

Can you fire a .357sig in a .40sw barrel ? The .40sw round stopps in the chamber on the case mouth, the .357sig will continue in the chamber and the striker wount rech it.

[@factsoftheconfederacy7151]

In all my studies, my goal is to hit it 600 foot pounds of energy with anything under .45 caliber. If you’re in that 580-600 foot pounds of energy mark in a .35 caliber round, it does horrific things to the body. I prefer the Liberty civil defense .357 SIG round, because it dumps that 600 foot pounds into the target at 2300 FPS. Plus, it fragments. The hydraulic pressure is absolutely terrifying.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Not when using JHP, at least no more than 9mm, 357 magnum and such.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Indeed, when the ammo craze goes "ballistic" (jejeje) the more common calibers dissapear and the more uncommon ones are still around. Having said that. fi ammo manufacturers have to cut down, or if dealers take a hit, the caliber to stay in production and in shelves are the more common ones, the ones in highest demand. Have guns that fire BOTH!!!! a 357 SIG with a 40S&W and 9mm barrel will keep your gun running.

[@mustangkrillin]

850 fps gets the job done just fine IMO I also carry 9mm but that's mostly my range gun.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Thanks. If you're a 357 magnum guy you'll like the Glock 31. 357 SIG is a fantastic round. Very accurate, it cracks but it doesnt slow you down compared to 9mm unless you're really sensitive to recoil (to me I barely feel the difference, it feels like a "hot" 9mm). By most police department tests cops shoot better with 357 SIG than with 9mm and that has been my experience as well. The only real downside is cost of ammo but then again how much is your life worth to you? Regards,

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

No idea, I've lost count. I bought the Glock 31 as soon as it got out, then bought another one a few years later, then a Glock 17. All I can say is I never had a FTF, and if you read other people's experience you see that bottleneck cases feed more reliably. There's nothing wrong with a converison barrel really, my .40 barrel has always worked flawlessly. As I said, its the exact same gun, the barrel is the only difference so it converts from one to the other with no problem.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Comparing apples to apples, 9mm +P Corbon ammo to 357 SIG Corbon, 357 SIG has 25% more power. That's the fact. The question would be, Is it worth it? to me it is. Also, I happen to shoot better with 357 SIG than 40S&W, I can shoot faster and more accurate with 357 SIG, other people have that same experience.

[@BBKnls]

You missed the whole point, TMS was comparing 115gr 9mm against 125gr 357 Sigtp up his anty. I merely pointed out that compared 124gr vs that 125gr the specs didn't end up being widely stanced! Like i said, it's not the end all be all and certainly not THE best. To determin that, there need ALL possibilities taken in consideration. End of the day it boils all down to being proficient with the firearm you've chosen But very good for you that you're getting this 'n that and doing so 'n so.

[@robertstill1496]

Great video. I agree totally. I love my G-33

[@d993s]

Underwood 125gr from a Glock 31 is over 1600fps and over 700lb-ft energy. Penetration in gel tests show over 44" from the 125gr fmj...which is basically 3 people! (also slices through most body armour like a hot knife through butter) and 19" from the 125gr jhp. 10mm used to make the most sense for a readily available powerful caliber. But overall the 357sig is better (thanks to Underwood)

[@Robert-qm7yi]

.357 SIG is only marginally better than 9mm with traditional bullets, a little more expansion or penetration, not enough to justify a hotter cartridge. BUT, it really shines with light high velocity rounds (2000fps+) as that's the speed where hydrostatic shock starts to matter, any slower than 1800 or so and it's a liability rather than an advantage most of the time

[@cashotpb]

I cant buy 9mm at my dealer right now... But they have a stockpile of 357sig

[@johnnyappleseed4386]

I've got the Glock 31c 357Sig with the 40 conversion. I absolutely love this pistol more than any other I've everowned in the last 25 yrs.

[@FlyTour69]

I like the 10mm family of cartridges. 10mm is the parent, 9x25 Dillon and .40 S&W and the kids, and .357 Sig is the grandchild.

[@MrJamesLooks]

I honestly do appreciate your video but could you please write just a little smaller? My eyes are not quite bleeding yet from straining them so hard. Thanks.

[@247Combat]

Not dissing you but why not go 10mm then the most powerful semi auto handgun round?

[@247Combat]

G20 has Same dimensions as G21. Also G20 can fire 357sig and 40sw reliably as we'll. 4 guns in one

[@zenkaipower]

Not exactly...similar weight and diameter but it ends there. 38 special and .357 revolvers use the same bullet but aren't even close to the same round.

[@TheModernSurvivalist]

Instead of thinking in a you know what scenario think of a couple guys with guns wanting you dead scenario. Ultimately the purpose of a CCW is self defense, not barter in a post-apocaliptic world. In that case you want the most stopping power per round shot and that 357 SIG does nicely in a normal size gun without compromising fast follow up shot speed YMMV of course, but I find that it has a nice short snappy recoil.

[@paulscountry456]

90 gr grizzly 700lbs

[@ReaperToySupra]

Great video and information. Thank you sir.

[@pystolwhip]

You said youve never had a ftf with .357 sig. How many rounds have you actually fired of .357 sig? Also, saying its more reliable at this point really doesnt have much proof. Of course a smaller bullet going into a bigger hole but saying to practice with .40 and shoot .357 for hd i cannot argee with. I would not rely my life on a conversion barrel, its 5000 more psi than .40 so the recoil spring may not be tuned for a .357 sig. Personally, I like .357sig , who wouldn't? Its a hot 9mm round cont.

[@sonick808]

The BEST caliber for defense, is the one you shoot the best. PERIOD. Shot placement is KING, everything else is MOOT.

[@abortedlord]

Load is a huge factor. You have to pick the right bullet for your gun. There are .380 rounds out there that meet the FBI penetration criteria. The biggest point you have, to me, is feeding. I had never considered that, and that just might be the most important factor that there is. A gun that doesn't go bang does not get the job done period.

[@jr2dude7]

thankyou for this video. never looked at 357 sig round before, didn't know much about it and this video is very informative. i started looking at this round when i found out it's what the secret service carries to protect the prez. figure they must know something i don't. i'm going to continue researching and now that i've seen your video i can actually ask intelligent questions, thanks again!!

[@103959770979]

357Sig is a special purpose caliber, used for most state troopers for the penetration with bonded ammunition. Anyways shot placement is more important than caliber. the 9mm have over 100 years in duty have buried millions and millions far to any other calibers included 45ACP.

[@lrg863]

So is it fair to say that in 1990 10mm had a baby with 30 Remington and called it, 40S&W then in 1994 .40S&W had a baby with 9mm and called it 357Sig?"

[@MrBILLBO58]

Being old skool steal guy I thought I'd never like a Glock, However my mod.31 357 sig is what I carry now. I have to agree with all 5 talking points here. And now with the ammo shortage ;lately,the availability and cost of ammo is not an issues any longer. My 1911 sits and waits for target fun...

[@jonathannorman7356]

I prefer to carry a 9mm because head shots dont really care about balistics. However, witch that said I'm thinking about switching to a .357 sig and getting a 9 mm conversion barrel so that I can have a backwoods gun. Any thoughts?

[@T-DsGaming]

Jonathan Norman In order to convert a 357sig to a 9mm you'll have to get the conversion kit ( not just a barrel) the 9mm can't work right with the 357 spring. On the 357 as a back woods gun it will work great for protection against most things ( unless you have very large bear or something to that nature commonly around you, even then I doubt it'll keep coming at you as you empty a mag or 2 of 147gr xtp, etc. into it). The 357sig is pretty impressive when you take it out to shoot for the first time. It left me laughing at my 9mm power wise to be honest. I will be using it to hunt whitetail deer this season, I shall see how it really performs then.

[@SINESTERSERPENTSIXXX]

+Jonathan Norman keep in mind a 357 sig is ballistically better over range also .....aka less drop the further out you go.

[@patrickslevin6424]

+Jonathan Norman The 40 cal/357 SIG conversion works better than the 9mm conversion because the 9mm has a much smaller head than the 357 sig. But the sig and 40 are the same size head, hence the ease of swapping out barrels.

[@patrickslevin6424]

+KingLT82 The effects should be the same as the .357 mag with 125 grain bullets. May be a little lacking on penetration....or may be not.

[@l07smitty]

Good luck with that "head shot". People dont hold still so you can get your "shot placement". And you really cant get your mind/body in a "scared shitless im about to die" state. If you have perfect "shot placement", then you can run away and get out of that situation according to the court after you kill somebody. In real life a 9mm has capacity and low recoil going for it and the rest is "hope". In real life, you kinda just aim in the general direction of your attacker and pull. Hope the round that connects somewhere does enough to stop the threat really. Shot placement is key, but it's not something the shooter has real control over. Most people dont get that on the gun forums. Bullet setback is a real topic of why to stay away from 357sig if you dont pay attention to your chamberings and rotation but that's another topic and argument amongst us enthusiast, lol.

[@sherriw333]

I personally prefer a Glock 22/23/27 (.40 S&W) over the Glocks chambered in .357 SIG because you can get conversion barrel to shoot .357 SIG AND 9mm and have a lot more variety. Also the .357 SIG uses the same magazines as the .40 which is even more convenient and I have heard you can shoot 9mm out of your .40 magazine but I am not positive.

[@saintqueso6946]

Yeah I don’t know what your on, glock 22,23,27/31,32,33 respectively are built the exact same same dimensions different sized chamber that’s it

[@mrsquishyboots]

I have a compact sig p250 in 40 and 357s. I just found some one selling 357s at a gun show here in central Oregon. Bought 200 rounds from him because its hard to find around here. Paid 64 cents per round so Im happy. The only other option was a local store selling 20 round boxes at 38$.....fuck that.

[@patrickslevin6424]

If you reload the 357 SIG isn't any more expensive to load for than a 9mm and it's a hell of a lot less expensive than loading for the 357 magnum in th amount of powder you need to get velocity desired. Granted the SIG can't shoot the heavy bullets but it's great for the 124-125 grain round which is what the cops carried in their 357 mags and it was that weight that got the respect owed the 357 magnum. Usually at 1450 ft/sec and while the factory's don't load the SIG that hot a reloader can do it with no problem at all while keeping pressure within SAMMI levels.

[@jwpak1]

I use Federal HST 147gr Plus P 9mm Hollow point. To me, that is effective enough. I am a fan of .357sig, however the cost of ammo compared to 9mm even in HP, is not economical at all. I also do cary 357magnum when I am hiking or for when STHF.

[@T-DsGaming]

+James Pak Personal defense ammo is almost exactly the same for 9mm and 357sig. Only fmj is more expensive on the 357sig.

[@FMAStudent]

Very well done, sir. I don't debate the merits of your presentation. I am however concerned about the " accessibility " of this caliber in a survival situation wherein it is not one of the popular calibers on my continent. Otherwise, pretty snazzy presentation. I especially enjoyed the segment on accuracy vs. 9mm, penetration vs. the 45ACP.

[@ge45gecalled39]

very informative, using common sense and science, very good video, thanks

[@adamcoe8320]

try looking at a lonewolf 9mm barrel for you G31 might help bring down some of the cost of shooting when ammo comes back. great vid been looking at a sig p229 in .357sig. d:0)

[@stevenp.sparks2953]

Great job! Sparks in Daytona

[@madmax6181]

Hola Fernando. I just got my Glock 32 Gen 3 and I love it! Thanks for the recommendation. Are there any upgrades (night sights, grips, etc.) that you recommend?

[@henrychristopher9131]

I CARRY A GLOCK 31 357 SIG AND USE UNDERWOOD AMMO 125 GRAIN SPEER GOLD DOT BULLETS ADVERTIZE VELOCITY IS 1475 FPS BUT I CHRONOGRAPH THEM AVERAGING 1500 FPS WITH NO PRESSURE SIGNS.I ALSO HAVE A GLOCK 20 10MM THAT I USE UNDERWOOD AMMO 165 GRAIN GOLD DOTS AT 1450 FPS AND 180 GRAIN GOLD DOTS AT 1300 FPS.

[@codybennett9063]

.357 sig is an incredible round. Although I already have a G29 in 10mm. And from a ballistics standpoint I don't see any advantage of the 357 sig over the 10mm. Am I correct in this thinking? or am I missing something? My carry load is 135 grain nosler hollowpoint at 1600 fps.

[@norrisdillahuntjr4570]

I two have a Glock 20 in 10mm, but I like the shoot ability of the Glock 31 better. The only downside to owning 357 sig is ammo availability when being able to get the rounds you want