Beta Items and Abilities of Majora's Mask | Zelda Cut Content

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Been a bit since the last Zelda video, but here we are! Give the video a like if you enjoyed it. Assists alot with the algorithm

[@devonm042690]

Another fun fact related to cheat codes: if you use a code that disables item restriction, and equip and use the bow as Deku Link, he fires the arrows from his...snout?...like a blowgun. It's interesting that this was specifically programmed into the game but not used.

[@LilacMonarch]

It might just be general code for launching any projectile as Deku, still strange though

[@Nyxael5845]

In regards to Goron Link and the Megaton Hammer, there is actually a connection. The Goron Punch *is* the Megaton Hammer, but it was modified to fit with Goron Link's combat abilities, and the Goron Pound is the standard swing of said item. When Goron Link punches a wall, it uses the same impact texture and sound effects that that the Megaton Hammer used in Ocarina of Time. Aside from the Megaton Hammer, Goron Link also has the same properties of the Goron Tunic, giving him inmunity to lava and heat resistance (the latter is not used though).

[@nikorigaming7022]

My first thought when hearing that Child Link's mask was found among Skull Kid's belongings was that the Skull Kid likely used the Child Link mask for nefarious, pranking purposes. For example, the Skull Kid might wear the mask and commit crimes, making the townsfolk or other NPCs mad at him.

[@AS-fu1kd]

That sounds not too far off the mark

[@dwasp0247]

Like Mario Sunshine

[@rockk9753]

He could have used it to incriminate link making people dislike link

[@nikorigaming7022]

@@rockk9753 yes, that's another way of putting it

[@rockk9753]

@@nikorigaming7022 well its exactly the same thing you said just shorter haha

[@itskells7557]

Quick thought - the adult link mask might have been an answer to having to return to the temple of time everytime you need adult or young link, maybe seeing young and adult link puzzles in one dungeon … but thats just a theory!

[@keskes1338]

You don't swap between them in MM.

[@yalostmethere]

They may have considered reusing the adult/child mechanic for MM, even if it didn’t end up in the final game.

[@DawnLynnCat]

My theory is with the Skull Kid is that he might of wore that mask to cause blame Link for stuff.

[@itskells7557]

@@yalostmethere my thoughts exactly elizabeth!

[@itskells7557]

@@DawnLynnCat i like that one. Skull kid would definitely do that

[@devonm042690]

Fun fact: if you use cheat codes to give Fierce Deity Link any sword other than the Helix Blade, he'll start slashing away uncontrollably, and won't stop until you either reverse the transformation or give him back his sword. Also, if you put the Helix Blade on B with Link in his default Hylian form, pressing B causes him to draw the Great Fairy Sword.

[@Jxkenshi]

Yeah it happened to me once and btw I set my sword to guilded sword and I played as zora Link and I pressed b zora Link would take out a sword but he would still punch and when I went inside a building/House He puts his invisble sword away and when I got my sword stole I somehow the kokir sword

[@averyzielnicki7450]

Wait so if you give link helix sword he gets great fairy sword, so then that must mean if you give fd the gfs he’s get the helix sword?

[@devonm042690]

@@averyzielnicki7450 The Great fairy Sword is a C-item. Fierce Deity Link can't use C. Even if you use cheat codes to bypass that, Fierce Deity Link is programmed to pull out the Helix Sword if he's not holding it. Setting the Helix Sword to B using cheat codes gives base Link the Great Fairy Sword on B because the Great Fairy Sword is the 2-handed sword Link can use in his base form.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

That’s actually screwed up now that I think about it. Not only would Skull Kid stoop so low as to trap Link in the body of a Deku Scrub he drained of all vitality, turning it into a tree in the process, but he would also steal Link’s Hylian form presumably so he could run around causing trouble while Link got the blame? That’s some Face/Off levels of disturbingness, and without the unintentional hilarity of Nicolas Cage to offset said creepiness. 😱

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

ib4 Skullkid was directly based on Nic Cage in development :P

[@Jolis_Parsec]

@s92 That actually is a good question, now that you mention it. It would definitely make sense given the context, as even in the final game, you’re basically fixing whatever mischief the Skull Kid caused for a majority of the folks in the Bombers’ Notebook, so I could definitely see Link having to go around and clear his good name by helping the folks “he” caused trouble to beforehand.

[@RoseBleueDuRosierSec]

I never noticed the adult Link standing with civilians seems to be wearing different clothes to OoT Adult Link, and I own Hyrule Historia :o that's a detail I would have never caught if not for your video!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah guess they were considering a revamped Adult Link here that at least would look different. Would have been neat to see this verison

[@Tatjana_L.]

This was a great video! I love that the devs used the instrument icons later in MM3D, along with the fishing minigame. It's nice that some small features were brought back this way :) Also, I totally would've loved to use the Sun's Song and see time moving forward before your eyes! Very sad that it was removed :-(

[@jongameaddict]

The Sun's Song is actually an option you can choose to enable in the Randomizer, but it's a bit... volatile. You can see in the video just how fast time moves. You can interrupt it by entering a loading zone, but that can be hard to time lol. Wouldn't reccomend unless you're trying to skip like, 6+ hours.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah i've heard they implemented it. I imagine if they did decide to go this route for the final game, they would likely freeze Link in place until time finished passing 6 hours

[@jongameaddict]

@@TheObsessiveGamer it actually is a little bit inaccurate too, it'll always skip to roughly 6:05 or so

[@craftedinsanity406]

I think spitting deku nuts would have been a much better design As for what using magic would do, they should have had deku link charge the deku nut attack to make it more effective. I can just imagine deku link popping his head out of the flower and spitting a nut where ever you're aiming! I also just noticed fierce deity Link's sword beams looks just like the beta sword beams from oot.

[@Cooperal]

Deku Link firing deku nuts instead of bubbles does sound like it makes sense. I reckon they changed it to distance the ability from the function of deku nuts that Link uses in Hylian form, avoiding any possibility of confusing the two. After all, it would seem weird for Link to ever run out of nuts if he can just make them from his own body by putting on a mask.

[@SgtSega]

There might not have been time travel involved or even a moon coming down originally. Termina may have been an extension of Hyrule. It's possible with the oncoming millenium that they decided to go in a darker direction like the end of the world was coming soon. Add that to cutting the game down from a week to just 3 days to add tension as a giant moon slowly creeps in.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Possibly but as far as we know, Majora's Mask as conceived was made from the get go on the idea of a 7 day cycle of trying to prevent the moon to fall. Nothing so far suggests they had other ideas as a major consideration.

[@Shiny_Gaming]

came straight from ... somewhere i don't think i should mention on the Internet... and saw this was uploaded. and i needed this right now. Thank you for doing this kind of content, it's super Interesting!

[@lucastelfair7946]

Oh, I’m greatly glad that they reimplement the originally cut fishing and different instruments to the 3DS version

[@l0rd0ct0d0rk]

It would be funny if the whole stolen link mask was similar to mario sunshine's identity theft plot and link had to right wrongs he didn't do in the first place.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Heck that'd be neat. Makes me wonder if they had this idea but kept it for Mario Sunshine

[@l0rd0ct0d0rk]

@@TheObsessiveGamer seeing how both are first party, it's plausible.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@l0rd0ct0d0rk not just first party, but literally the same team lol

[@l0rd0ct0d0rk]

@@TheObsessiveGamer learn something new every day, I guess.

[@DawnLynnCat]

Most the leftover items from OoT defaults to the Pictobox on use.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yep, basically unusable at this point

[@SorandaGuitar]

I noticed recently that Fierce Deity Link is significantly bigger than Adult Link... I find it very curious.

[@diegomedina9637]

Also you can tell it's not the same model. There are some slightly but noticible differences in the model itself.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

Its not that he's bigger, its that the world was designed for child link so every feels smaller when using FD.

[@diegomedina9637]

@@AnAverageGoblin The bottom of the well and swamp spider house being in OOT kinda throws that theory out the window.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

@@diegomedina9637 oh yeah shit, literally forgot about those.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I do want to see a comparison of Adult Links model in MM next to it to see if there is any difference in size

[@TheHylianBatman]

I would love to see what Majora's Mask was supposed to be. It seems so interesting.

[@yuuh193]

I get what you mean by "supposed to be" but really MM is practically exactly how it was supposed to be; Nintendo started MM already knowing they had only a year to work on it, so they weren't planning on making something too large or full of content like OoT. I doubt that a lot of the cut items found in these files were going to be used at all (with the exception of the fishing mini game perhaps.) That Young Link Mask is super interesting, but I suppose it didn't work with the narrative that Nintendo eventually landed on with SkullKid and Majora's Mask, so it just got scrapped out of the story totally. An alternate plot line being included in the Hyrule History books would be such a gem to read about though!! I'm curious how dark or mischievous a Link Mask could really be. One thing I wish we got to see in the final game though is the animation of the Great Fairy teaching you how to do your spin attack and other physical conditioning to up your defense. Such a cool little idea! I guess they thought it was unnecessary.

[@TheHylianBatman]

@@yuuh193 Yeah, that's fair. I'd love to see that, too!

[@TheBreakingBenny]

The Conservatory Bomber and Jim both have Japanese lines that seem to be intended for the Adult form; the former would've told Link that the hideout's "for kids only" and that big kids like "Adult form" Link should play elsewhere. Jim in turn berates Link for picking on someone smaller than him. These don't appear in international versions, and thus softlock the game.

[@NoMercyFederation1]

My biggest question out of this video is why did they decide to make deku link shoot bubbles instead of deku nuts? Ya know?

[@Zeivusgaming]

Considering deku link drops the nuts like bombs in the air, it probably made it hard to balance the game. I mean, two mechanics eating into the same item count simultaneously? You would be looking for nuts all the time starting out. Plus, bubbles move a bit slower and might be more forgiving for the player and software

[@victorhale]

I think what i like about all this is the fact that this game was supposedly DLC for OOT, then its own game, and then reduced to what it is today. Considering the 7 day cycle, maybe the idea behind Majora was a fierce rivalry where Majora would make frequent appearances. Maybe it was gonna be more fleshed out in certain ways. Like gossip stones and folklore about a mysterious creature that lived in these lands. JPN version makes note of Majora calling the fierce deity as well as you creatures that run away and are considered evil to it. Maybe the enemies being hit by your swordbeam also gave more opportunities for you and Majora to fight in multiple locations. Being as spiteful as it is, maybe it toyed with you cuz it got no challenge from either you or the fierce deity.

[@victorhale]

After all Ganon did have a phantom, whats to say there wasn’t one for Majora?

[@anunthinkablemess1240]

All of these Zelda videos have been great! I always nee of the fishing minigame but everything else was new to me! Good work man

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Glad you enjoyed it and glad I could provide new info as well!

[@OcarinaOfJesus]

I like to think that Skullkid makes the Link mask as a wholesome gesture, since the ending has them being friendly

[@Cinder896]

I am loving these majoras mask videos nice work 👍

[@JessieEchidna]

Oh no... Anju goes out of her way to make sure grandma eats, and she was just gonna sneak you her soup in a bottle instead of actually eating it anyway? D: So sad!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Oof forgot that detail. Maybe in the beta she was more in the kitchen?

[@cjg8763]

IIRC she doesn't like Anju's cooking maybe she just wanted to get rid of it haha.

[@vapormermaid]

I adore how you sometimes talk about these games like Carl Sagan describing the universe. A lot of passion there.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Had to look him up. Heh, well glad then I can show that kinda energy

[@younghacker09]

I am OBSESSED with this channel

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Obsessed KZbinr, obsessed fans. it works :P

[@dr.metroid6119]

That skullkid with links face is just cursed! 😮

[@elio7610]

An interesting thing about the "child Link mask" is that it is seemingly programmed to be worn by the skullkid rather than Link, much like how skullkid wears Majora's mask.

[@chrisd6287]

Great work as always, thanks TOG

[@noahreese2455]

YES, another episode!!😄

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

eyy always plan to deliver

[@sheismymom]

I love Majora's Mask

[@lordenma4449]

I wish sarias song made it because you can play this to the skull kid and he says you're this kid from the woods now i remember you and a little alternative ending would happen and link finds Navi and returns to Hyrum

[@ocarinaholmes]

that young link mask is terrifying.

[@Jxkenshi]

Also fun fact: There's a kafie mod for mm and the Link mask is in it it gives kafie links voice

[@tattertot8259]

Cool, where is the item that let's you save Marin from being trapped as a seagull forever ?

[@ZeldaMaster285]

I need far more information about Zelda. I must have watched all your videos dozens of times each.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well I got more planned still! :) Thank you for enjoying them this much!

[@ZeldaMaster285]

@@TheObsessiveGamer i clear my schedule to watch new videos. You're the only subscription I have with notifications turned on. Even if it's mostly compilation, you still present many discoveries in new ways and with innovative ideas behind them, though you are usually the first I've seen in a good majority of these presentations to show the details listed in your videos. Looking forward to the next one!

[@ender7278]

The updated Gerudo symbol came way before the GameCube port, including later releases of the N64 version.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Not true. OOT 1.2 (the final verison) does not include that Gerudo symbol

[@lucastelfair7946]

The transformed instruments were later reused in Majorca mask 3D ya Know!

[@EmberedPaws]

I actually believe the megaton hammer was an early version of the goron pound where you fly into the air and smash the ground to make heavy switches go into the ground. Because the hammer filled that role in OoT. But even Zora and Deku had their abilities in B, being the nuts and longshot at the time. And they obviously still would have been able to attack like the final game. In beta OoT you used A to attack so maybe ability was B and attack was A. The way Deku Link spins with A in and Goron rolls in the final game supports this theory. Zora and Fierce are the only without a special A ability, reusing child Link's. The roll! But maybe the attack wasn't implemented yet and they just had it on B for whatever reason. There's even an unused animation in the game that looks like it could have been Goron Link swinging a hammer into the ground!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I think this theory alot. Quite very possible that this was the original intention but in the end whether from time constraints or just not wanting to do it, it didn't happen. Goron Link as such using a combo of Hammer plus punches while Zora Link using Fish-Man Karate + Hook Shot to zip across could have been real neat.

[@moeiscool]

Good tuber, found you yesterday

[@jamesbrotherton6799]

2:48 yup this is definitely the stuff of nightmares 😳

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Looks like my job was done well then as I was trying to portray exactly that here lol

[@Nephrite_Harmony]

the sun's song in mm is interesting because of that lack of transition

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I do like the effect since you actually see people zip across too as time passes

[@FedoraRose]

Man that’s really interesting, thank you

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@alundrajehuthy1801]

Is it me or can your very clearly see at 4.53 that the megaton hammer icon is in fact a square cutout of that image pasted over the original button? It seems a bit doctored, even though there are visual glitch artifacts in the other picture too, they are of a lesser degree.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I can confirm it most definitely is real. It's rather old and from a magazine

[@no3396]

I like the way you say ‘button’

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

How did I say it?

[@greatbigeyeball]

What about 'Equippted' :)

[@Reolin6]

Cant wait any longer

[@PrimeStarStudios]

I never knew about the cut items from Majora's Mask.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Amongst many things... like designs which I plan to hit up next :)

[@stevevalley2321]

My theory is that the child think mask is how you would originally play the bombers minigame to get to the observatory the first time before you transform into kid link

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

The question is how would Deku Link be getting a child link mask?

[@stevevalley2321]

That is a good question I have not figured that one out yet

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Actually, I could’ve sworn the 1.1 or 1.2 OoT revisions on the N64 had replaced the Islamic Moon and Star crest on both the Mirror Shield as well as the large movable blocks in dungeons with what we now know as the Gerudo symbol, though I could be misremembering since it’s been ages since I touched my N64.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

The Moon and Star stayed for 1.1 and 1.2 as I understand. It was the GameCube versions that changed it.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

@@TheObsessiveGamer Ah, my mistake. 🤗

[@gigadude]

This was my favorite Zelda of all time

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Amongst the best!

[@Tenetri]

great video, keep it up!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

oh damn, didn't expect you to be watching this! thank you! Your channels looking excellent! keep it up as well!

[@red5158077]

I really want to play it again. It comes out this month which is also my birth month and Tuesday is my birthday.

[@SullySadface]

0:31 You put that back where you find it or so help me

[@NativeWarrior081]

1:56 In the top left corner, Link looks like Yelena from Attack on Titan. 😂

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

>When Link gives the "Yelena face" to the bomber kids who keep dragging him around

[@NativeWarrior081]

@@TheObsessiveGamer 😂🤣😵

[@galaxyplatinum5533]

Another excellent video

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks!

[@tslodemi]

Great video! I wanted to let you know it isn't pronounced, "equip-ted" it is pronounced, "eq-qui-pt." Much love.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks! yeahhh my whole life i've been saying it like that and no one has tried to correct me rofl thanks will plan to keep that in mind

[@tslodemi]

@@TheObsessiveGamer You rock man, keep making badass videos!!

[@SIsReal]

Those link masks are nightmare fuel

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Very much, especially when Skullkid wears it

[@phoenixwright128]

Love the video keep it up

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I have no objections to that :)

[@EmanuelBonilla-rn4vv]

How was your *day?*

[@Geckc]

Great video! It would be good to see Link be able to use the Fierce Deity mask anywhere.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well if you do use that glitch..

[@skeleton316]

Would've been awesome if deku link would use fairy sling shot or shot deku nuts :D

[@bogchamp5627]

how do you do this

[@zigazav1]

"Equipping anything to B"? Sounds like the majority of Capcom-made Zelda games, as nearly all of them had button slots you could equip nearly anything to. Minish Cap comes to mind of Capcom Zelda games that doesn't have a sword forever fixed to one button while other slots are items. So maybe, Nintendo was taking a page from how Capcom made Zelda games when Nintendo hired them to do so?

[@tailsprowerfan2729]

it sucks that Goron link cant use the Megeton hammer

[@MERCHIODOS]

I'm guessing Adult Link mask was cut due to being to similar to Ocarina of Time.

[@papyruscrazy6761]

my first game was zelda ocarina of time, i think i have one of the rarest consoles, it is a dk edition console with all the characters in the game, and i didn't find the console on google.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Ooh I remember that console. The one with the banana controller right? It's a really neat of the special editions

[@papyruscrazy6761]

@@TheObsessiveGamer the controller is normal, only the console is different, in addition I think it's the pro version because the cartridge where you put the extra 64 mb is integrated in the iel and says don't touch

[@tourguideplays5477]

Sorry for being late watching ^^

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

No worries! Better late than never I say :)

[@tourguideplays5477]

@@TheObsessiveGamer you inspire me to start streaming and making content again even though I am really amateur at best lol

[@SgtSega]

Hylian Loach uses the name Hylian because Majora's Mask was originally gonna be an add on for Ocarina of Time. All the reused unused assets tie into this.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

False

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Majora's Mask never was going to be an Ocarina of Time expansion. It was always made as its own seperate game while Ura Zelda was made as the expansion. Some assets were taken from Ura to Majora's Mask, but Majora's Mask was its own solo disk game from the start

[@SilentVinyl]

Fascinating

[@silverherogoldsmith2661]

What sort of stinks is that they removed or didn't port the Japanese unused text to the English, Pal, or Gamecube versions of MM.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

yeah which is why people have used Japanese roms to showcase the beta text for it

[@silverherogoldsmith2661]

@@TheObsessiveGamer Yea, I think there is mod or patch that restores some of the unused Japanese text in English for the USA and Europe versions of MM but I'm unsure if the mod has all of them though.

[@phoenixdening6434]

never use cheats to make fierce deity link hold young links swords oh god no he will just keep swinging it and you cant move till its taken off

[@doliteair]

Link was majora all along! That's why young link mask is on the bad guy!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

The moon dropping was just Young Link's plan to make Skullkid look bad so he could come out a hero himself in Termina :P

[@doliteair]

@@TheObsessiveGamer all the townsfolk only have memories of link with the fierce deity, and majora does say we are the bad guy in the end, link might the Ganon of terminal as fierce deity 🤔

[@jacobj3933]

Alright, I'll need a exorcist, a bag of salt, a black cat, and blood of an innocent. Then we can banish link to the darkest pits of Utumno.

[@xSant17]

I Wonder if zelda could defeat majora if link failed

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Might need a Fierce Deity "Sheik" mask for that :P

[@randomizedartman00]

These items look better :/

[@BluShiGuy]

Hya

[@literaltrash2275]

So here’s what we want: •A OOT/ MM HD remake for Switch with cut content and more dungeons. •A direct sequel to OOT/ MM and Here’s what we don’t need •BOTW 2

[@jmjedi923]

Dont need, but I want botw 2

[@AnAverageGoblin]

Your speaking for yourself. a BOTW sequel could fix many problems the first had. Nintendo isn't going to remake two 64 games and use scrapped ideas, and we already got a sequel to OOT called Twilight Princess.

[@literaltrash2275]

@@AnAverageGoblin I am most definitely speaking for myself and a lot others whom agree :)

[@AnAverageGoblin]

@@literaltrash2275 your alt accounts don't count.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I just want all of the above :P

[@AlexTCGProYT]

Seventh