Batman Arkham Knight Vs Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League

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Batman Arkham Knight Vs Kill the Justice League #shorts

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@Lloyd_Florence
@Lloyd_Florence 7 ай бұрын
Graphics: Arkham Knight
@cortespo7683
@cortespo7683 7 ай бұрын
Nunca
@sakaiclips
@sakaiclips 7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@RastinImani-eb5yr
@RastinImani-eb5yr 7 ай бұрын
Yessss Arkham knight 11 _ 4 kill the justice league
@دولي-ش4م
@دولي-ش4م 7 ай бұрын
قنت٤ته٣٣❤😂🎉😢😂😮😅😊ثصثثيصصصصصصصص❤😂😅😊هثثهثه٣ه٣٨٣٨٣٨خ٣٣٨٣خ٨خ😅
@vicndungu
@vicndungu 7 ай бұрын
No kill the justice league
@fireblade696
@fireblade696 7 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight has better graphics even though it’s older.
@Crazinator
@Crazinator 7 ай бұрын
Fr bro
@Swhite336
@Swhite336 7 ай бұрын
I know right Arkham Knight has the best graphics of the Rocksteady games@@Crazinator
@HyperxTBT
@HyperxTBT 7 ай бұрын
No it doesn’t ssktjl graphics is way better than Arkhams
@Crazinator
@Crazinator 7 ай бұрын
@@HyperxTBT no tf it's not trust me when I'm saying this I have a PS5 and a 4K TV and believe it or not I actually bought the game when it came out and the graphics are okay but not as good as Arkham Knight )by the way I took back the game back because it was trash) and I noticed the difference because after I took it back I encourage myself to go and play Arkham Knight and finish the Riddler trophy Mission because I hate the Riddler trophy missions and I notice how better the graphics are
@HyperxTBT
@HyperxTBT 7 ай бұрын
@@Crazinator your just being biased like all the Arkham fanboys
@floopycoopy5041
@floopycoopy5041 7 ай бұрын
The boss fights were absolutely horrible in Suicide Squad
@JustCallMeMex
@JustCallMeMex 7 ай бұрын
They weren't great, but they were definitely better than the shit we got in Arkham Knight... Arkham Knight in a helicopter, Arkham Knight in an excavator, Arkham Knight passively looking into a predator room. Deathstroke in a tank, I could go on. Even if you hated the boss fight in SSKTJL, you have to admit they're better than the SINGLE GOOD BOSS FIGHT in the entirety of Arkham Knight.
@Furthernever
@Furthernever 7 ай бұрын
​​​@@JustCallMeMexkiller croc, jason todd and professor pyg >>>> every suicide squad boss imo.
@JustCallMeMex
@JustCallMeMex 7 ай бұрын
@@Furthernever I can respect that, and maybe say that the pyg boss fight was pretty good. But Croc was hardly anything new. An enemy you can't hit surrounded by enemies you can hit, and Nightwing. Do the team takedown 5 times, you win. And I'm not gonna sit here and act like the Suicide Squad got these really in-depth, layered fights with the Justice League. However I will say, on average, they were more engaging because you could actually fight them and not the infinite number of henchmen they have on hand.
@kaizen_1905
@kaizen_1905 6 ай бұрын
@@JustCallMeMex I agree. Arkham Knight is one of my favorite games of all time (the only ones that compete with it on my list are DMC5 and Spider-Man PS4) but its boss fights are not cool. Seriously, most of them are just a longer, more complicated version of standard stealth or Batmobile combat. The only fights I like are Batman and Robin vs Big Al, Nightwing and Batman vs Killer Croc, Batman and Catwoman vs Riddler and Batgirl vs Joker because they are really Boss fights with real combat. Arkham Knight has the best combat in the franchise but they wasted the chance to show this in one-on-one fights with enormous potential like Batman vs Deathstroke and even against Arkham Knight, which should have been the most complex and difficult boss fight in the game. As if it were an improved version of the Mr. Freeze fight from Arkham City. The Arkham Knight can even be hit by one of Batman's techniques but this technique becomes ineffective later as Jason knows how Bruce fights and can think of countermeasures using his militia's arsenal. And the second half of the fight could be like Batman's fight against DeathStroke in Origins, for example.
@wafflyllama1365
@wafflyllama1365 6 ай бұрын
The worst part is (I’ve heard) that they kill them all with bullets
@sakaiclips
@sakaiclips 7 ай бұрын
“Boss fights” - Suicide Squad That’s a surprise point. I can’t lie, the game had its moments of entertainment but it felt like it was a constant replay of the same strategy and attacks. Just shooting. Arkham Knight was more explorative and planned out in the fights in my opinion, even though they didn’t give a Deathstroke battle
@JustCallMeMex
@JustCallMeMex 7 ай бұрын
While somewhat true, the boss fights in Arkham Knight were awful for theost part. There were maybe two decent boss fights in that entire game and one of them is the Riddler 😭 If we were talking about City or Origins, they'd take the cake easily. But Knight, idk just doesn't have any standout boss fights besides Riddler in a mech suit.
@lukeplaysgames20
@lukeplaysgames20 7 ай бұрын
At least SSKTJL had boss fights that weren’t exclusively in a car
@timechanger6679
@timechanger6679 6 ай бұрын
@@lukeplaysgames20that’s what I’m saying, either that or that one predator section with Jason
@Decoy449
@Decoy449 7 ай бұрын
Icl the only thing that can save ssktjl is if they reveal that the Leaguers who were killed were just clones. It'll make sense, superman surviving kryptonite through the chest, flash's missing finger, batman's fall and why Green Lantern's ring didn't fly off when he died. It's either a massive plot twist or we've just witnessed one of the shittest writing in mankind.
@infiniteWorlds24
@infiniteWorlds24 7 ай бұрын
Even though the league is still probably alive, this game is still one the shittiest products from rocksteady, the gameplay is mind numbing, the boss fights suck, the game poorly explained how deadshot is different, but honestly the thing that gets me the most is how we didn't get a worlds finest duo game, or other league members, we got the suicide squad, who dc seems to love for some forsaken reason.
@Swhite336
@Swhite336 7 ай бұрын
I was scratching my head while playing SSKTJL@@infiniteWorlds24
@Decoy449
@Decoy449 7 ай бұрын
@@infiniteWorlds24 yea the Deadshot thing was just bullshit, the new joker sucks as well. Although Gotham knights sucks as well I'll give them credit for at least giving Batman an honourable death.
@infiniteWorlds24
@infiniteWorlds24 7 ай бұрын
@@Decoy449 I agree though, the league should come back, itll be predictable but at least the justice league with enourmous potential isnt dead in their first showing
@welpimf0cked654
@welpimf0cked654 5 ай бұрын
A some have pointed out, that would probably just make the story even worse plothole wise, and make Brainiac look even dumber.
@DominicLentz-e8c
@DominicLentz-e8c 7 ай бұрын
The song's name is The Perfect Girl
@Benji_1480
@Benji_1480 6 ай бұрын
We need more people like you in the world
@DominicLentz-e8c
@DominicLentz-e8c 6 ай бұрын
@@Benji_1480 Aww, thank you.
@Concept229
@Concept229 5 ай бұрын
@@DominicLentz-e8c Thx chad
@Staehlit
@Staehlit 4 ай бұрын
Boss Fights in Arkham Knights were way better than in suicide Squad well the car missions like death stroke wasn’t it but expect from that they were way better
@FlashMovies07
@FlashMovies07 7 ай бұрын
Boss Fights and Graphics to Arkham Knight
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
no way bruz when it rains in suicide squad the graphics are so much better than arkham knights but its mostly sunny and daytime, And Arkham knight boss fights were horrid, absolute shit
@FlashMovies07
@FlashMovies07 7 ай бұрын
@@heathclips4066 Suicide Squad boss fights were shit too
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
@@FlashMovies07 they good but weren't great and actually play a game before saying something about it
@FlashMovies07
@FlashMovies07 7 ай бұрын
@heathclips4066 You don't have to play a game to know it's bad. So many people haven't seen Madame Web, and they knew it was horrible, even when it hadn't come out yet.
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
@@FlashMovies07 madame web was shit suicide squad kill justice league is actual good though but its not great
@sakaiclips
@sakaiclips 7 ай бұрын
Dude graphics on Suicide Squad were weaker than Arkham Knight.
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
when it's night and rains in suicide squad it's so much better than Arkham Knights, but it's mainly in daylight so those moments don't come often
@sakaiclips
@sakaiclips 7 ай бұрын
@@heathclips4066 it rained in Suicide Squad? I don’t remember that
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
@@sakaiclips it looks phenomenal
@futureflash3479
@futureflash3479 5 ай бұрын
​@@heathclips4066 Is there s clip on YT that shows this...kinda wanna check it out
@goku_Editz2987
@goku_Editz2987 7 ай бұрын
Never thought id see batman lose strength over a literal child!
@ODEditz08
@ODEditz08 7 ай бұрын
What are you talking about?
@Tantris-Edits
@Tantris-Edits 7 ай бұрын
@@ODEditz08Uhhhh 💀
@ODEditz08
@ODEditz08 7 ай бұрын
@@Tantris-Edits is there something I’m missing?
@Breezyrennin
@Breezyrennin 7 ай бұрын
​@@ODEditz08No it's a bot from another vid
@craiggaskins
@craiggaskins 7 ай бұрын
@@ODEditz08Batman brutally dies and shot by Harley Quinn BUT there is talk that that JL was a clone
@FranciscoPetrucioJunior
@FranciscoPetrucioJunior 2 ай бұрын
I love that, while knowing Arkham Knight is way better, he is still fair. The boss fight one for example. Neither were good in this deoartment, but I agree Suicide Squad was a bit better
@MalcSimpkins-xv9ms
@MalcSimpkins-xv9ms 6 ай бұрын
Can’t Believe That Batman Arkham Knight is 8/9 years old now
@vito6197
@vito6197 Ай бұрын
You know what's crazy. A game that came out in 2015 looks 100x better than this dog shit game.
@Hollowollow
@Hollowollow 7 ай бұрын
Name of the song
@Sonbat34
@Sonbat34 6 ай бұрын
Perfect girl
@PunishedSnakeV
@PunishedSnakeV 7 ай бұрын
At least he gives the game some points what a chad
@MW3Loadies
@MW3Loadies 6 ай бұрын
Flash just casually charging up a kamehameha💀
@TrippTheKidd_
@TrippTheKidd_ 6 ай бұрын
arkham knight gets graphics. its graphics are a decade old and still better than 99% of games today including spiderman 2
@Dannny-o7t
@Dannny-o7t 2 ай бұрын
Faxx but graphics goes to AK They were visually stunning and realistic
@stefangaming2833
@stefangaming2833 5 ай бұрын
Even graphics go to Arkham Knight it looks better then some new triple A games even after 9 years, oh and boss fights to Arkham Knight aswell
@edwinmendez4920
@edwinmendez4920 4 ай бұрын
Who love Batman Arkham Knight?
@Decimator69420
@Decimator69420 7 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight takes boss fights
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
not at all the ssktjl boss fights where good but not great, but arkham knights boss fights were atrocious
@Furthernever
@Furthernever 7 ай бұрын
​@@heathclips4066ssktjl boss fights we're all the same repetitive trash especially batman. Only green lantern was mid.
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
@@Furthernever At least try to pretend you have played the game
@David.sanchez765
@David.sanchez765 6 ай бұрын
​@@Furtherneverand arkham knight was still worse almost every boss was just c a r
@Benji_1480
@Benji_1480 7 ай бұрын
Can you do Arkham batman vs ssktjl superman
@TheOrchastrator
@TheOrchastrator 7 ай бұрын
suicide squad mentioned rahhhhh wtf is plot armor 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@NightmareFoxy895
@NightmareFoxy895 7 ай бұрын
W edit the music is w
@Transformbeast6000
@Transformbeast6000 6 ай бұрын
This edit so good 👍👍👍
@UpgradedTitanCameraman7.0-v
@UpgradedTitanCameraman7.0-v 6 ай бұрын
Goku kakumei vs kratos pleas
@user-Muhammad111
@user-Muhammad111 7 ай бұрын
Can you pls do michael scofield vs wolter white, use pls the same letters and graphic that DCUHEDITZ used on he's most popular edit.
@FanficRJ1
@FanficRJ1 7 ай бұрын
Alternate video: Gotham Knights vs SSKTJL
@Furthernever
@Furthernever 7 ай бұрын
Gotham knights is better I kNoW CrAzYY
@DJMASTER5620
@DJMASTER5620 Ай бұрын
Did the flash try to do the kamehameha move
@gloxost
@gloxost 5 ай бұрын
Aint no way bro gave graphics to suicide squad
@genesismultiverse4896
@genesismultiverse4896 2 ай бұрын
Really what's the point who will say suicide squad is better than arkham knight
@Abyssal_void0
@Abyssal_void0 6 күн бұрын
Graphics and characters to Arkham knight
@omariwallace2916
@omariwallace2916 7 ай бұрын
I never played the Arkham games but I already know that it’s fire❤❤
@robedit149
@robedit149 5 ай бұрын
name of music bro?
@JonasBiebas
@JonasBiebas 7 ай бұрын
How can you even compare these two
@mydude8731
@mydude8731 7 ай бұрын
Bro do planet of the Apes edits, godzilla etc
@MiaSangold
@MiaSangold 6 ай бұрын
The fact that they gave KTJL the graphics hurts my soul. KTJL looks so flat and lifeless just like the soul of the developers of this damn game.
@amiralitaghizadeh113
@amiralitaghizadeh113 6 ай бұрын
bro just give 5 point to don't hurt suicide heart😂😂
@The_Reaper101
@The_Reaper101 5 ай бұрын
Graphic Arkham knight bro that game looks better than most AAA games
@JamWilliams-s8c
@JamWilliams-s8c 6 ай бұрын
I agree too💯💯
@bell5248
@bell5248 5 ай бұрын
i have so much fun with the characters in suicide squad
@Gamingandstuff1235
@Gamingandstuff1235 7 ай бұрын
It’s criminal to compare these games💀
@zenhyde..
@zenhyde.. 6 ай бұрын
Arkham knight takes all (2015 vs 2024) ☠️
@theriddler22
@theriddler22 3 ай бұрын
thats not even a battle.Its an execution
@Mcshorts_YT
@Mcshorts_YT 7 ай бұрын
I do not accept that SSKTJL is nothing compared to that masterpiece
@PepinoRick
@PepinoRick 7 ай бұрын
a ben 10 vs thanos please
@hairam462
@hairam462 5 ай бұрын
Arkham khnight still in 2024 looks better than Suicide squad 🔥
@ishmailmusa6080
@ishmailmusa6080 5 ай бұрын
Batman don’t need powers like superman
@Snighdha2006
@Snighdha2006 4 ай бұрын
Arkham knight is best DC game ever
@AalwaysbetonHAKARI
@AalwaysbetonHAKARI 6 ай бұрын
I just hated how much arkham knight relied on the batmobile.
@Mr_acorn_exe
@Mr_acorn_exe 6 ай бұрын
Bruh bro gave graphics to SSKTJL💀💀💀
@random-qj6ih
@random-qj6ih 6 ай бұрын
Ps5 game graphics > Ps4 game graphics
@Mr_acorn_exe
@Mr_acorn_exe 5 ай бұрын
​​@@random-qj6ih lol. I don't know what wrong with you watch compare graphic on the Internet before writing such a shame 👁👄👁
@JaredMcLean-y4n
@JaredMcLean-y4n Ай бұрын
Batman Arkham Knight 🎮🎮🎮🥀🌷🌷😁😁🥳👍😇😌❤️
@HaymakerTheBigBull
@HaymakerTheBigBull 5 ай бұрын
Anyone got the song link?
@Argi_sam
@Argi_sam 5 ай бұрын
I like both games
@jaydenbaez-q2j
@jaydenbaez-q2j 6 ай бұрын
You're not lying batman wins the suicide squad had so much plot armor that i have never seen before
@Toasted_perfectly
@Toasted_perfectly 6 ай бұрын
I’m his humble opinion 😊 THAT IS ABSOLUTE FACT!!!
@ZalkaaE099
@ZalkaaE099 7 ай бұрын
What about every marvel movie ranked
@EsYapimciRobin
@EsYapimciRobin 6 ай бұрын
I played both of them and I am in same opinion with you.
@cupdude._.
@cupdude._. 4 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight takes all and negs
@Rick_Sanchez_D-159
@Rick_Sanchez_D-159 5 ай бұрын
Pretty much everything goes to Arkham Knight
@zipnex5529
@zipnex5529 5 ай бұрын
agree with everything but the graphics. Somehow, a 9-year-old game looks better here.
@sildude9951
@sildude9951 3 ай бұрын
excuse me characters suicide squad WHAT THAT IS NOT TRUE NEVER!
@kuro-chita
@kuro-chita 7 ай бұрын
What humble those are fax
@Unknown-hb3id
@Unknown-hb3id 7 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight graphics >>>> SS:KtJL graphics
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
when it rains in suicide squad the graphics are so much better than Arkham knight
@Unknown-hb3id
@Unknown-hb3id 7 ай бұрын
@@heathclips4066 🧢
@PunishedSnakeV
@PunishedSnakeV 7 ай бұрын
Cap asf
@CasIsReal
@CasIsReal 7 ай бұрын
Plot ans writing are the same things and suicide squad isn't even over yet
@Ebutuoy151
@Ebutuoy151 4 ай бұрын
The Arkham games are the best ever made. Suicide squad belongs in the toilet since that game was crap.
@CarPar-i4w
@CarPar-i4w Ай бұрын
Batman
@Concept229
@Concept229 5 ай бұрын
W
@Lokiverse2024
@Lokiverse2024 6 ай бұрын
100% worst game suicide squad game
@RexFilmsOfficial
@RexFilmsOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Finally a video not shitting on KTJL
@sakaiclips
@sakaiclips 7 ай бұрын
Suicide Squad has its moments of entertainment but the writing is just shitty, how they did Batman so dirty was so unjust and dishonorable
@heathclips4066
@heathclips4066 7 ай бұрын
@@sakaiclips your playing as criminals, i thought of it as permanent Arkham death scene
@miguelcondadoolivar5149
@miguelcondadoolivar5149 7 ай бұрын
​​@@heathclips4066Even so. It was the perfect opportunity to show how horrifying superheroes are from a criminal's perspective, but Flash doesn't convey the incredible speed he does in other media, Superman doesn't seem like an unstoppable force of nature... Batman is the only one they got sort of right and only in the first encounter, as his actual bossfight is just... Bad. Also, the Squad members are incredibly obnoxious, especially Harley and Boomerang. They have no charm whatsoever, which doesn't help motivate the player in their crusade against the JL.
@DEBAYANBHOWMIK-rv6cg
@DEBAYANBHOWMIK-rv6cg 5 ай бұрын
Bruh comparing the best open world game to an absolute crap lol
@perranmorris5074
@perranmorris5074 6 ай бұрын
Batman arkham knight wins
@tracyrische8161
@tracyrische8161 7 ай бұрын
Cool
@TonEdits
@TonEdits 6 ай бұрын
Fax
@officialwyattthesans12345
@officialwyattthesans12345 7 ай бұрын
... Modding: Arkham Knight (for costumes in my opinion) Since modding in suicide squad is cheat
@SiD3_Echo
@SiD3_Echo 7 ай бұрын
You gave SS away too many points
@VenturesBoyToy
@VenturesBoyToy 5 ай бұрын
Nah, wrong
@TheUndertaker25-2
@TheUndertaker25-2 2 ай бұрын
15-0
@kubo8694
@kubo8694 4 ай бұрын
Boss fights in Arkham knight were garbage
@anti4107
@anti4107 3 ай бұрын
And yet weren't as bad as suicide squads boss fights which is crazy
@lil_puff4775
@lil_puff4775 5 ай бұрын
Suicide Squad has beautiful Graphics and visuals thats it everything else is bad but Arkham Knight was ahead of its time and you can play offline
@nickisnotgnarly
@nickisnotgnarly 7 ай бұрын
The multiplayer one isn’t fair Arkham knight doesn’t even have multiplayer
@huraice
@huraice 6 ай бұрын
Even asylum looks better
@cortespo7683
@cortespo7683 7 ай бұрын
Para cara o jogo do esquadrão suicida e muito melhor
@Marble-b8s
@Marble-b8s 7 ай бұрын
Actually gave a fair opinion that wasnt just "BATMAN DIED THIS SUCKS"
@Furthernever
@Furthernever 7 ай бұрын
Its not that he died It's HOW he died after 15 years and 4 games and no that's not the only reason the game sucks there are many reasons.
@marielleredon1602
@marielleredon1602 4 ай бұрын
Noooo
@Jkbluegamer
@Jkbluegamer 5 ай бұрын
I believe that suicide squad kill the justice league is better than Arkham Knight
@Meowtherfucker12
@Meowtherfucker12 6 ай бұрын
Bro I hated how they did ONE OF THE BEST BATMAN VOICE ACTORS IN RECENT HISTORY that dirty, like bruh. That sucked
@suckitgreenboi197
@suckitgreenboi197 7 ай бұрын
Graphics belongs to Arkham knight
@Swhite336
@Swhite336 7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but Arkham Knight was the best of Rocksteady graphics goes to Arkham Knight
@ThatAnimeFan-nt4pu
@ThatAnimeFan-nt4pu 5 ай бұрын
Graphics = Arkham Knight Boss Fights = Arkham Knight
@quintionbalfour9426
@quintionbalfour9426 Ай бұрын
Boss fights is not Arkham Knight you literally fighting the Arkham Batman that's better than any boss fight in the Arkham series and superman
@BatmanDCEU
@BatmanDCEU Ай бұрын
​@@quintionbalfour9426lmao that's mad cap
@HuongTran-yc6xc
@HuongTran-yc6xc Ай бұрын
​@@quintionbalfour9426okay dude 😂😂😂
@quintionbalfour9426
@quintionbalfour9426 Ай бұрын
@@BatmanDCEU yea it's not you fight the Arkham Batman what boss fight is better than that idiot
@quintionbalfour9426
@quintionbalfour9426 Ай бұрын
@@HuongTran-yc6xc like dawg wanna laugh like it's not true "okay dude 😂😂😂" tell me a boss fight that's better than fighting Arkham Batman and superman
@goku_Editz2987
@goku_Editz2987 7 ай бұрын
that "alive" point was a violation bruh💀
@ODEditz08
@ODEditz08 7 ай бұрын
What are you talking about?
@cauaricardo1595
@cauaricardo1595 7 ай бұрын
@@ODEditz08acho que é uma nova piada
@Hadeslovespoo
@Hadeslovespoo 7 ай бұрын
bot
@cantsuggestareasonablename9101
@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 6 ай бұрын
This guy posted the same thing over and over again
@cantsuggestareasonablename9101
@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 6 ай бұрын
Actually brains dead weeb
@Miguel-oc1re
@Miguel-oc1re 7 ай бұрын
Your edits evaluating films and games are very good. Keep doing them👏
@Joeyz-db7me
@Joeyz-db7me Ай бұрын
I love suicide squad ktjl but arkham knight is just unbeatable, definitely one of the best games I've ever played.
@HaloMan-813
@HaloMan-813 7 ай бұрын
Impressive SSKTJL got more than 2 pts
@fernandoanchundia3738
@fernandoanchundia3738 6 ай бұрын
Batman Arkham Night is better than Suicide Squad KTJL.
@zakariaabdous4108
@zakariaabdous4108 5 ай бұрын
Arkham knight 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤ Suicide squad kill the justice league 👎👎👎👎👎👎🤬🤬🤬🤬
@pritthisdas8779
@pritthisdas8779 Ай бұрын
Arkham knight's graphic still holds up
@senormilito3395
@senormilito3395 7 ай бұрын
No way this man give graphics and boss fight to suicide squad kill the justice league 💀☠
@xiuntchart2390
@xiuntchart2390 5 ай бұрын
Bro really gave Graphics to Suicide Squad💀 I'm going to die💀💀
@Divinefrogapex
@Divinefrogapex 2 ай бұрын
Bro everything in suicide squad looks like plastic
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