@@AFE_07 I would love to see that as well. I'm imagining it might end up having to be a multi-part series because there were a few different groups of ships fighting each other in different places during the battle.
@NefariousKoel Жыл бұрын
Leyte would be nice. An interesting engagement which has had almost nothing done on it would be the battle of Empress Augusta Bay. Another one of those confused night surface gun battles defending a beachhead, but a later one in which lessons had been learned.. to some extent.
@tyramirez6628 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite moments from this battle was after the night battle. The USS Enterprise somehow only had one missing pilot who never landed on a carrier or was picked up that night. Their top pilot, William R. "KILLER" Kane (or just Killer Kane, which is such a badass name). Two days into the search, a destroyer speeds up along the Enterprise frantically flashing its signal light in a message that read "How much ice cream for Killer Kane?" (This was a customary reward for rescuing pilots). This then turned into an old-fashioned haggling match (partly because there is a rivalry between the different ship classes, even now). The destroyer crew argued that they deserved more because he was a unit commander and an ace so surely he is worth the 25 gallons they requested (it would be 30 gallons because its packaged in 10 gallon containers and in my heart i know they knew that and just wanted to swindle more from the Enterprise XD). So after holding Killer Kane for ransom they were rewarded their 25 gallons of ice cream, the Enterprise got her pilot, Kane learned he was worth exactly 25 gallons of ice cream to his unit (lol), and the day was saved.
@LiamConway-i4v Жыл бұрын
reminds me of the one pilot in the cactus air force at guadelcanal who was given back to the americans by locals in an exchange. His best quote was "Some men never know their worth, but mine is a 10 pound sack of rice"
@ivantheteribul Жыл бұрын
How does that compare with Jeff DeBlanc being worth a 10-lb sack of rice?
@asteropax6469 Жыл бұрын
I remember the show Battle 360 mentioned this moment during their episode covering the Battle of the Philippine Sea. One of the other Grim Reaper pilots, Donald "Flash" Gordan, talked about it near the end of the episode. Wish they mentioned which destroyer made the rescue.
@ph89787 Жыл бұрын
@@asteropax6469 from what I’ve heard. The destroyer that found him was either USS Terry or USS Patterson.
@shironasama0445 Жыл бұрын
I love battle 360
@Vnx Жыл бұрын
"Turn on the lights" always gets me. They knew launching an attack too close to sundown was dangerous, and they gave those pilots the best chance to land safely even though it put the ships at risk.
@ph89787 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the pilots only had basic night training. With Enterprise being the only carrier at that point with any (albeit small) experience with night ops.
@oldfrend Жыл бұрын
that must've moved more than a few stout hearts that night aboard that fleet. the danger was real, but the cause was just and right so you do it because the men are worth saving.
@VosperCDN Жыл бұрын
Just imagine those guys, flying back from intense combat hoping to find the ships in the dark, and then everything lights up, starshells, searchlights .. must have been such an incredible feeling to see that.
@revon0521 Жыл бұрын
It’s long out of print but , “Mission Beyond Darkness” is a great and gripping retelling of this aspect of this historical naval battle.
@carloscabrera8510 Жыл бұрын
@@oldfrend Even sending out destroyers the next day to search for men. Risk hundreds of sailors in search of a few dozen pilots. Buts that’s the way to do it.
@runefjord8446 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it is a US victory despite Japan attacking first, US-bombers getting bored and attacking an airbase, and the japanese attacking second as well, is wild
@eodyn7 Жыл бұрын
Shows you how stacked the deck was against Japan.
@ihebyahyaoui5888 Жыл бұрын
It's because the Hellcat slaughtered the zero
@JacenHawk Жыл бұрын
@@ihebyahyaoui5888 Which was primarily facilitated by the use of radar to direct said fighters int advantageous positions.
@Chr1sBrown Жыл бұрын
The US was never going to lose this war in the long run. Even Japan understood that, they wanted to deal a couple decisive blows, then sue for peace.
@Daz912 Жыл бұрын
Yeah kinda boring reading about these one sided battles
@IrishEye Жыл бұрын
"We have enough fuel to reach and bomb the carriers but not to get back." "Launch anyway." War is brutal.
@PancakeBoi Жыл бұрын
War favors those who are daring
@rikk319 Жыл бұрын
Doing what must be done often takes sacrifice. As long as they rescued the pilots, they'd have more planes from mainland factories soon enough.
@Corristo89 Жыл бұрын
@@rikk319 That's exactly what set the Americans apart. They valued their pilots more and took care to rotate them home, so they could pass on their experience to new trainees. The Japanese kept theirs at their station until they were killed, which is exactly what happened. A plane can be replaced, an experienced pilot not so much. And Japan had almost no trained pilots left, courtesy of having to cut back training more and more due to aviation fuel becoming more and more scarce because of the relentless sinking of their transport ships heading back to Japan.
@tiagodecastro2929 Жыл бұрын
@@rikk319 That's what I hear a lot about the philosophy of following orders vs thinking for oneself. I never served, so I'm speaking from a civilian/outsider perspective here, but what I understand about the importance of following orders is that the individual soldier needs to understand that his superior officers have access to information that isn't available to him, and so he therefore must trust them to do whatever he cannot. This is why a soldier is willing to sacrifice his life for the mission- he believes that it will contribute to a greater good. This is also why it's so bad for a military when the soldiers have no trust in their superior officers.
@rikk319 Жыл бұрын
@@tiagodecastro2929 My father, uncles, and grandfathers served in different branches in Vietnam, Korea, and World War 2. Trust, unity, brotherhood, and honor were stressed a lot in my family. A worthy officer deserves respect not because of his position, but because he puts his men first, and leads by example. Good men trust a good officer to guide them with integrity.
@hugmynutus Жыл бұрын
200+ planes launched in 11 minutes is an amazing feat of coordination.
@OverlordGrizzaka Жыл бұрын
Plane jockeying done right. A far cry from ops circa Midway.
@ramal5708 Жыл бұрын
You should see the logistical system to replenish and refuel the Fast Carrier Task Force, in anchorages like Majuro or Ulithi they would establish well protected and established floating dry dock and anchorage with ice cream barge, mail ships etc. While at sea there's this so called Task Force 50 which is at sea logistical train with 20 replenishment ships like store ships, fuel tankers etc plus 2 dozens of escort carriers to replenish the fleet and light aircraft carrier of TF58/38 when they had losses to their air groups these CVEs would replenish the loss aircraft. Also this group is escorted or screened by 30 or so combined Destroyers and destroyers escort plus 6 CVEs, whose air groups flies and provides close air patrol and anti submarine flights for the convoy. This is why RN later learned and either copy or adapted the logistical system for their future British Pacific Fleet operating late 1944 to VJ Day where they would learn side by side UNderway REPlenishment technique and also gathering available tankers and supply ship to accommodate their battle fleet in the vast Pacific Theatre.
@Yora21 Жыл бұрын
That's a plane every 3 seconds.
@xWarLegendx Жыл бұрын
@@ramal5708 escort carriers and escort destroyers never went along w/ fleet task forces Caz they were to slow and less maneuverable compared to fleet/light carriers and fleet destroyers and other BBS and cruisers
@ramal5708 Жыл бұрын
@@xWarLegendx did you read my whole comment? The CVEs, DEs etc were there as replenishment force or group, they were meant to steam alongside the slow tankers and replenishment ships, this particular group are given a position on the map by the Carrier Task Force to replenish them, replenishment doesn't require you to be at 25+ knots or so. They are separate group from Carrier Task Force, read about Nimitz secret weapon, the supply train fleet.
@andrewtaylor940 Жыл бұрын
One minor detail that got missed in the previous episode, but comes up right at the beginning here. One of the big reasons that Ozawa did not know the results of the previous days attacks was most of his attack squadrons were launched to do shuttle bombing runs. What that means is they were launched at greater than half the planes range, with the instructions to attack the Americans, land on one of the island airfields, and fly back to the carriers in the morning. There were two reasons for this. The first it allowed Ozawa to keep his carriers back further outside of expected American Carrier range. And second and more importantly, Ozawa’s team had some serious doubts about the barely trained Japanese pilots ability to land back on their carriers after an intense day of combat. He didn’t know the results because most of the Japanese pilots weren’t expected to return until morning. Above and beyond his communications difficulties.
@LordKelvinX2086 Жыл бұрын
I believe shuttle bombing was more about the aircraft landing at the island airfields after hitting the American carriers, refueling and re-arming and then immediately sortieing again to attack the Americans again, landing at another island airfield and repeating. Turn one carrier launch into two or three strikes on the enemy. The problem here was that (1) the Japanese bombers were shot down before they could reach an island base, and (2) those island bases were also hit by the Americans. I remember reading about this on Wikipedia some years ago, but it's apparently been removed since. Perhaps it was a misconception from earlier historians that's been corrected by more recent facts?
@trentvlak Жыл бұрын
Interesting, thank you. I do wonder about how Ozawa got that erroneous report of the land based planes attacking the Americans. Where did this piece of misinformation orginate?
@RipRLeeErmey Жыл бұрын
@@trentvlak Probably from a general that didn't want to be executed for telling the truth and saying they barely did anything against the Americans.
@mrgone658 Жыл бұрын
@@LordKelvinX2086 Wikipedia is not exactly a reliable source of information, historical or otherwise. It's a place to start, maybe, but deeper research would yield better results if what your after is historical truth.
@Caboosejaja Жыл бұрын
@@mrgone658 🤡
@BikeThrottleOfficial Жыл бұрын
The sheer balls needed to take off into the Pacific knowing you’ll probably not find your way back is hard to fathom.
@willarterberry3392 Жыл бұрын
well, they're not called called the greatest generation for nothing
@onlythewise1 Жыл бұрын
@@willarterberry3392 lol or dumbest my family fought in ww2 lost a uncle almost my dad , dying is dumb
@jacobmareels2461 Жыл бұрын
@@onlythewise1 are you dumb? Lmao
@kenneth9874 Жыл бұрын
@@onlythewise1 being a coward and slave to a dictator is dumber, I guess that you're pretty dumb
@kingmuddy5898 Жыл бұрын
@@onlythewise1 that's got to be the dumbest take I've ever heard
@littleferrhis Жыл бұрын
39 out of 450? So basically as a Japanese pilot in this battle you had an over 92% chance of being killed or at the very least losing your aircraft, with your chance of survival with your plane in tact being at only 8%
@Wolfeson28 Жыл бұрын
And for the Japanese pilots, losing their aircraft was much more likely to result in their death. Aside from the Japanese aircraft being more lightly built and more likely to catch fire, the USN did a MUCH better job of rescuing their downed aviators than the IJN did throughout the war. The massive combined air and surface rescue effort mentioned at the end of this battle was the norm for the USN, but was rarely seen on the IJN side.
@thelvadam2884 Жыл бұрын
that is why they switched over to Kamikaze attacks late in the war m since it doesn't require much training , and u save fuel and other logistics when its a one way trip. and when u are basically guaranteed to die against enemies , might aswell make sure that u go down and take as many with u as possible. the craziest thing about the kamikaze attacks is , when u really dig into it why they did it , it becomes less and less insane , and more and more a rational decision ...
@Noplayster13 Жыл бұрын
Given those numbers, it makes perfect logical sense for the IJN to start using kamikaze bombers instead. Get killed pointlessly in a hopeless battle or get killed doing something actually useful.
@dereenaldoambun9158 Жыл бұрын
@@thelvadam2884 Should have switching pilots instead of switching to kamikaze tactics. All of those experiences gone to waste instead passing them down to the rookies. I'm glad the US did the right thing (pilot rotation).
@Fronzel41 Жыл бұрын
@@dereenaldoambun9158 The Japanese were completely focused on winning as short a war as they could get away with because they knew they could not possibly win a long war with the United States. They had put plenty of study into the possibility of war with the US and always concluded that the industrial disparity would spell their doom if they couldn't get a peace deal quickly.
@HeisenbergFam Жыл бұрын
The animation is smooth, this man's educational commentary is on point
@beepboop204 Жыл бұрын
🙂🙂🙂
@highdesertutah Жыл бұрын
You’re godamn right.
@sebastiansellers5849 Жыл бұрын
The same background music for every video is getting abit samey though my only criticism.
@SpecterAGgaming Жыл бұрын
I wonder what animation is that he used. I've seen other videos do this similarly. Kinda wonder if its After Effects or not.
@adrielsebastian5216 Жыл бұрын
10:20 That animation of the planes colliding on the flight deck is the cherry on top. Such a superbly animated and produced video.
@stormlordeternal7663 Жыл бұрын
I know the situation was probably terrifying but seeing those little planes smash into eachother like a kid throwing their toys around makes it look funny.
@greg7120 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen a bad video by these guys.
@ashtonfrancis112 Жыл бұрын
I doubt we ever will.
@macwt Жыл бұрын
For real
@fauxbro1983 Жыл бұрын
Because it doesn't exist
@LibertysetsquareJack Жыл бұрын
Yes. This channel is consistently excellent.
@Khan-1738 Жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, the early videos are kind of rough only because the music is so loud, but everything else is on point
@tayzonday Жыл бұрын
This is the best battle history channel ✊🙏
@gropey_maurice471 Жыл бұрын
What in the fuck? This is like running into Taylor Swift at a Metallica concert.
@disbehaving9913 Жыл бұрын
wait wait wait. chocolate rain guy???? My childhood???
@RyanN777 Жыл бұрын
*I step away from the mic to voice my surprise*
@jermasus Жыл бұрын
Chocolate rain History quickly crashing through your veins Chocolate rain
@Rybo-Senpai Жыл бұрын
WELL! thats a name i haven't heard in a long time damn!
@ramal5708 Жыл бұрын
The audacity of Mitscher in turning on the lights on his carriers is one of the bravest move in Naval history, risking his carriers to be visible in the middle of night by IJN subs is rather ballsy move, but quite rewarding in saving the lives of his aviators, although some had to ditch they did in fact rescued those who did, unlike the IJN who didn't value their aviators much as the USN.
@ph89787 Жыл бұрын
Interesting story. Spruance and Mitscher did a similar thing 2 years earlier at Midway with Enterprise and Hornet (CV-8). They had sent a strike on the afternoon of 5 June 1942. Which attacked a destroyer ( i think it was Tanikaze). The destroyer escaped and shot down a Dauntless. To make matters worse, that strike was returning after dark. So Spruance ordered Enterprise and Hornet’s lights on. Resulting in all the surviving aircraft returning safely. Albeit Enterprise somehow getting 5 of Hornet’s SBDs.
@Nickname-ef9tv Жыл бұрын
To be fair, potentially losing a considerable part of your aircrew in the currently hottest part of the pacific warzone (there was no guarantee Japan would concede the field) would have also been quite dangerous.
@kevinwang7783 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Zuikaku managed to contain its damage, unlike other IJN CVs at Midway, showed how important it was to have a veteran DCP crew. It was sth the IJN could achieve, but trajically not on more ships.
@breakafreak Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much more different the Pacific Naval theater would have turned out if the Japanese had damage control training equal to the US
@garystu9878 Жыл бұрын
Also notably contrasts with Taiho’s more inexperienced damage control crew in this battle.
@spark5558 Жыл бұрын
Note the USN didn't just have better DCP crews but it trained everyone on board on basics of DCP
@CapricornEGO Жыл бұрын
After all she was the "Fortunate Crane".
@jefclark Жыл бұрын
@@garystu9878 that musta been a hell of an fucking explosion in that shaft
@Anthony-jo7up Жыл бұрын
Everyone always focuses on Midway, but the late-war battles make Midway look like a tiny skirmish.
@NorthKoreaUncovered Жыл бұрын
I agree. I don't necessarily consider Midway the turning point, yes it gave the Americans the initiative, but the war could still conceivably go either way. Philippine Sea however was game set match. The Pacific war was effectively decided at that point.
@asteropax6469 Жыл бұрын
@@NorthKoreaUncovered I agree that Midway was not exactly a turning point. The IJN had more carriers nearing completion and more pilots finishing training at that point in the war. It was the bloody battle of attrition at Guadalcanal that was the turning point in the war as the Americans gained the initiative at that campaign's end. Every notable naval battle afterwards was typically an IJN response to an American landing, including battles such as Empress Augusta Bay, Leyte Gulf and the one from this video. I can't ignore the fact the IJN was also expected to assist with the offensives happening at New Guinia at the same time as both Midway and Guadalcanal. Lots of their carrier pilots were sent to that front as the casualties mounted. In fact, more than HALF of the Japanese Aviators at Pearl Harbor were killed by the start of 1943.
@recoil53 Жыл бұрын
@@NorthKoreaUncovered Between the pilot training programs (17K for the Navy alone) and ship building, the US naval strength by 44 would have been overwhelming, if carriers were not just tossed away unecessarily. That is, as long as the US navy didn't get crushing losses, just the accumulation of material differences made the outcome inevitable. Losing those 4 carriers and those air crews must have shortened the war though. Plus winning at Midway allowed the US to take the initiative in the Solomons, which ground away much of the remaining pilots the IJN started the war with. By the end of '43 the Japanese committed trainers from their aviator program, which basically made it game over. But they did that because of the chain of losses starting at Midway.
@NorthKoreaUncovered Жыл бұрын
@@recoil53 I don't deny that Midway was a huge victory for the USA. I'm just saying that if Japan ever had one last chance to inflict the devastating defeat to the US Pacific Fleet it had hope to achieve early on in the war, it was at the Philippine Sea. Japan needed nothing short of a decisive victory if there was to be any chance of a negotiated settlement. After PS any window of opportunity had since slammed shut.
@recoil53 Жыл бұрын
@@NorthKoreaUncovered I'd say that at Leyte, the Japanese had a chance of a devastating victory if Kurita had been more aggressive. Halsey left the invasion force - the infantry open to attack by inexplicably taking his slower battleships with him to chase Ozawa and the remaining IJN carriers. The losses would have been huge. I also think there was no chance at a negotiated settlement. While DC may have been more concerned about the war in Europe, it was Japan with the sucker punch. That's why FDR had to be concerned about the public reaction to possible losses in Operation Torch, while the public would withstand the mess of Tarawa.
@jakepratt2604 Жыл бұрын
Top quality content mate! Sad to hear about KZbin being a prick demonetising your vids
@jacobno7400 Жыл бұрын
“Turn on the lights” gives me goosebumps every time I hear this story. I love it!
@Rawkit_Surgeon Жыл бұрын
That nighttime landing must have been an amazing sight.
@natowaveenjoyer9862 Жыл бұрын
Massive balls to pull that off with 1944 technology.
@jpjpjp6328 Жыл бұрын
If you want a first person account, read "Dauntless Helldivers: A Dive Bomber Pilot's Epic Story of the Carrier Battles" by Harold L Buell. He flew a Helldiver in that battle.
@felisknight8599 Жыл бұрын
@@natowaveenjoyer9862 Especially with the threat of a Japanese submarine attack, dunno how in the world those ships were afloat with all of those balls of steels weighing it down
@NotTheCIA1961 Жыл бұрын
Having a time machine to look back on moments like these would be absolutely stunning.
@mikes7446 Жыл бұрын
Sure was kiddo, I was their
@vince_cb Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids. Please keep making them!! Sorry about the yellow circle of death!
@davidpnewton Жыл бұрын
Those who criticised Spruance were utterly wrong. It's that simple. His primary mission was protection of the invasion forces. He achieved that mission gloriously. At Leyte Gulf by contrast the glory-hunter Halsey failed in his primary mission to protect the invasion shipping. It was only thanks to the miracle of Taffy 3 that Halsey didn't have massive shipping and personnel losses to deal with.
@45sticky Жыл бұрын
Raymond Spruance was always about the mission and never about glory hunting. In my opinion, Spruance was one of the best naval commanders in the Pacific. So much better than glory hunting Halsey, who made so many mistakes from the Philippines campaign to the typhoon cobra of 1944, and he always got a pass, remarkable. Halsey definitely had good connections in Washington and with Nimitz.
@davidvasquez08 Жыл бұрын
And not to mention Kurita basically back stabbing IJN as he either an American spy and/or being a IJA sympathizer, countering every move for his forces to win. And not to mention the USS Johnston
@davidvasquez08 Жыл бұрын
@@45sticky Halsey did manage to build an impressive reputation for the USN during the Pacific campaign, it was hard for anyone even Fleet Admiral King considering the backlash if they did pull Halsey out. But at the same time Halsey was erratic and going into 2 different typhoons(including Cobra) doesn’t help him
@legoeasycompany Жыл бұрын
@@45sticky Definitely, he removed some competent men from command for even less than his mistakes.
@Th3Shyguy Жыл бұрын
Yeah the prevailing view amongst the air admirals was that carriers couldn't possibly be end run. So much like Spruance got critised for Midway (where he made the correct decision) he also understood that carriers could indeed be end run. Which was proven in a battle that should never have happened the way it did off Samar.
@da4an1qu1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@darksam1212 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the content
@treyhelms5282 Жыл бұрын
For all the talk of the "Turkey Shoot", seems like USN subs were the MVPs in this battle.
@sjonnieplayfull5859 Жыл бұрын
Yes and no. During the next engagement, the carriers, as well as Ozawa, were used as bait. While they did have a full load of planes, they had recruit pilots and they even had a hard time drawing Halsey's attention... After this battle the remaining carriers were paper tigers, like tanks without the main gun
@treyhelms5282 Жыл бұрын
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Fair
@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 Жыл бұрын
"And Admiral Mitcher said: 'Let there be light' and there was light." Sorry. I couldn't resist.
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
Tibbets over Hiroshima.
@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 Жыл бұрын
@@Eric-kn4yn Has nothing to do with my comment.
@ph89787 Жыл бұрын
Interesting story. Spruance and Mitscher did a similar thing 2 years earlier at Midway with Enterprise and Hornet (CV-8). They had sent a strike on the afternoon of 5 June 1942. Which attacked a destroyer ( i think it was Tanikaze). The destroyer escaped and shot down a Dauntless. To make matters worse, that strike was returning after dark. So Spruance ordered Enterprise and Hornet’s lights on. Resulting in all the surviving aircraft returning safely. Albeit Enterprise somehow getting 5 of Hornet’s SBDs.
@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 Жыл бұрын
@@ph89787 I see. In hindsight, they needed that experience.
@thedyingmeme68 ай бұрын
@@ph89787 i mean,,,, a carriers' a carrier ??
@jwavy9985 Жыл бұрын
No bs, no jokes, no corny music, just straight to the point history.
@ph89787 Жыл бұрын
Another fun fact. All of TF 58's fleet carriers embarked 4-6 plane detachments of Night Fighters. Most of those were F6F-3E or 3N Hellcats with the exception of Enterprise carrying 4 F4U-2 Corsairs. During the "Mission beyond darkness" in addition to lighting the ships up. The fleet carriers launched these fighters to help shepherd the weary strike package back (or as close to) TF 58 as possible.
@Storm7289 Жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was commander of air group 1 aboard the Yorktown during this battle. Amazing to see this in video
@bohan9957 Жыл бұрын
This is simply the best military history channel available. Your channel puts the other "official" channel to shame, which has turned into a cesspool show of Ancient Aliens, Swamp People, and American Pickers.
@Yamato-tp2kf Жыл бұрын
Yeah... the former "history channel" only made three good series about WW2, the Battle 360 Enterprise and Patton and the dogfight series... That's all what they did good... Nothing else...
@noneofyourbusiness9489 Жыл бұрын
@@Yamato-tp2kf And Greatest Tank Battles.
@JacenHawk Жыл бұрын
Montemayor is also a very good channel, though they do not produce as much content.
@rook1196 Жыл бұрын
This was very good. Montemayor only posts once every few months but just dropped another banger proving he's still the king. www.youtube.com/@MontemayorChannel
@Yamato-tp2kf Жыл бұрын
@@JacenHawk I know... I love his videos!!!
@zam6877 Жыл бұрын
I still tear up everytime I hear about fleet lighting up their carriers... ... in hope of showing their pilots the way home
@thomasriley5830 Жыл бұрын
There’s a great seen in the series Battle 360 where an Enterprise Fighter Pilot tears up just thinking about the ships lighting up. It was an incredibly dangerous thing to do but saved all the pilots lives.
@Yamato-tp2kf Жыл бұрын
@@thomasriley5830 I remember one of the veterans called Don "flash" Gordon talking about this battle on Battle 360 Enterprise and coming in tears about his reaction when TF58 lighted all the lights of the ships... Like he said the "lights were telling me, home is that way" and he starts to cry... Man that hit me hard... Imagine yourself in the middle of the ocean without GPS at night, only with a compass and trying to find a group of ships that are moving... It's overwhelming...
@thomasriley5830 Жыл бұрын
@@Yamato-tp2kf yeah that’s the moment I was referencing! Imaging myself during any WW2 campaign is hard to do… these guys were different
@asteropax6469 Жыл бұрын
@@Yamato-tp2kf I remember that moment from Battle 360 Enterprise as well. Don "Flash" Gordon said he ended up landing on the Lexington, demonstrating how the flight groups got jumbled up in the night landing. I'm glad they included in this video at 10:52 and in the Battle 360 of how the Destroyers and search planes scoured the ocean for downed pilots. They mentioned in the Battle 360 show that the Enterprise was only missing one person from the night landings, "Killer" Kane, and he was later rescued by a destroyer. They had a light hearted moment, where the destroyer's crew was requesting ice cream in return for rescuing the Enterprise pilot.
@thedyingmeme68 ай бұрын
@asteropax6469 "requesting" more like "gimme ice cream or we keep the pilot !!!!"
@Teoras Жыл бұрын
I love finding history channels like this one and watching them slowly improve and become solid, popular channels. The Operations Room never fails to deliver a fun and interesting story :)
@CodeElement190 Жыл бұрын
6:50 I think it was supposed to be IJN Ryuho not Ryujo, IJN Ryujo was sunk during the Battle of Eastern Solomons
@TheOperationsRoom Жыл бұрын
You're right, my mistake
@gamedude412 Жыл бұрын
@@TheOperationsRoom mixing your ho's and Jo's lol
@VirgoShelter Жыл бұрын
@@TheOperationsRoom it a easy mistake to make, both are light carriers and have a single letter different in their names.
@saxon6 Жыл бұрын
Your channel makes complex and chaotic battles understandable. I impatiently waited for part 2. Thank you
@sasha_popov Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the demonetization. Here is some love, top notch video today.
@TJ-wg3ud Жыл бұрын
The immense scale of ww2 is almost hard to comprehend, its crazy to even imagine a battle today that resulted in multiple carriers sunk and hundreds of planes shot down.
@ApexPredatorWithSungGlasses Жыл бұрын
This has been a very great week for Naval engagements. Eastern Solomons from Montemaryor, and Philippine Sea from Operations Room. Keep up the good work guys!
@yeetericus1138 ай бұрын
HELLDIVER BOMBERS?!?!? "An eagle never misses!" "Liberty Dispensed!" "Got 'em!"
@Aredel5 ай бұрын
"Unleashing Democracy!"
@Nelsonisaacs1 Жыл бұрын
I think you guys should do the Battle off Samar. The Last stand of the tin can sailors is a really good book and this engagement would perfectly suit this channel's style
@oldfrend Жыл бұрын
almost certainly next in line of production.
@sjonnieplayfull5859 Жыл бұрын
Any time I pick up that book time fast forwards a fee hours...
@tracedibble674710 ай бұрын
The bird's eye view animation allows me a deeper understanding than I get from a simple reading of the history 👍
@KyleMiddleton7 Жыл бұрын
Sorry about the ad revenue. KZbin gonna KZbin. Keep up the great work!
@pirana6 Жыл бұрын
The animations seem to be getting quite a bit better. The gunfire from ships, foreground (higher altitude?) planes, and smoother movement, all look better! Keep up the good work
@ThomasShaw-x5d Жыл бұрын
The animation is smooth, this man's educational commentary is on point. This is the best battle history channel .
@phucvinh2883 Жыл бұрын
This battle finally sealed the fate of IJN. The katana is already broken. But their commanders said:”If your katana is broken, get a bamboo stick and keep fighting”.
@yosefvonhansom2921 Жыл бұрын
And that "bamboo stick" will be the Battle of Leyte Gulf
@phucvinh2883 Жыл бұрын
And 10-go operation
@yosefvonhansom2921 Жыл бұрын
@@phucvinh2883 Ten-go is more of "fighting with bare hands" at that point
@dereenaldoambun9158 Жыл бұрын
@@yosefvonhansom2921 Fighting hundreds of bee with only bare hands. 😨😨😨
@baconpwn9 ай бұрын
IJN died at Guadalcanal. This is garbage time. Taihou, Shoukaku, and Zuikaku had no chance against the oncoming storm. Philippine Sea was a Hail Mary.
@darkmagician4697 Жыл бұрын
What the battle of the Philippines taught me is that Japanese damage control got better throughout the war Edit: Also Between you and montemayor there is a lot of great animated WW2 carrier battles.
@NotTheCIA1961 Жыл бұрын
On one hand, it definitely got better On the other hand, the Zuiho basically sunk herself.
@Wolfeson28 Жыл бұрын
Japanese damage control got better in some cases, but not uniformly across the fleet. There was also the issue that, while the IJN learned some major lessons about damage control, they weren't always able to pass those on to the newly arriving sailors that they were rushing through abbreviated training. It's also important to note that Zuikaku, the star example of IJN damage control in this battle, was a veteran ship with two and a half years of combat under its belt by this point. Contrast that with the relative experience and damage control of Taiho.
@gamewizardks Жыл бұрын
Japanese damage control got better throughout the war and American flight-deck operations also got better throughout the war. :-)
@MrNicoJac Жыл бұрын
There was not really Japanese damage control - it wasn't _that_ standardized (partly due to ship designs). So, it was more of a ship-by-ship basis kinda thing. At least, if I remember Drachinifel's video about it correctly 🙃
@gamewizardks Жыл бұрын
@@MrNicoJac That they put of fires on a carrier would be classified as 'damage control', though regardless of standardization or (lack of) training.
@A407RAC Жыл бұрын
Awww yeah, love the lengths you go to for these animations - keep it up
@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын
They work wonderfully well don't they, one of the finest I've discovered and delighted for the opportunity to subscribe. 👍
@rudyyu5279 Жыл бұрын
one question that will never be answered is, if the Japanese aircrew of 1941 fought this battle instead of 1944, would it still be the turkey shoot it came to be known for? Fun fact: I live in the Philippines, on the province of Iloilo, next to the island of Guimaras. I once read that Ozawa, with his carriers and green aircrew, were practicing and training off the Guimaras Straits. They were spotted by guerillas, reported their presence to the American high command, who became aware of them before the battle.
@YoWhoDat Жыл бұрын
I’ve visited the Lexington several times. It’s an amazing ship and extremely humbling to hear about her exploits knowing I’ve stood on that same deck and been inside.
@josephesposito9414 Жыл бұрын
agree. Living here in Corpus Christi TX, where the Lady Lex lives, it is humbling to stand on her flight deck and look at the tally of plane shot down and ships sunk by her airgroups. But is amazing is how much damage to Japanese plane by the guys manning the deck guns. Someone needs to a show on them.
@colormedubious4747 Жыл бұрын
Even though I've never NOT cracked my skull on something overhead when visiting the Lady Lex, I'll never pass up a chance to go aboard her and discover something new. 😀
@vor_teckss Жыл бұрын
this channel is one of the few that i actually click on when they post new videos
@ProbablyFat Жыл бұрын
The Operations Room is what HIstory should be, direct yet entertaining and educational. Greato work, I love these breakdowns and animations.
@fredrikrenstroem1661 Жыл бұрын
Attention KZbin! This is entertaining and informative and compliant with your content guidelines, please stop demonetizing it. Thanks in advance.
@snapshotinhistory1367 Жыл бұрын
Leyte will need at least 4 parts: - Part I: Prelude and the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea (October 23-24) - American carrier planes sink Musashi, and Darter and Dace (two submarines) sink the 2 heavy cruisers Maya and Atago (Kurita's flagship, forcing him to go to Yamato) - Part II: Battle of Surigao Strait (October 24-25) - American battleships, cruisers and PT-boats under RAdm Jesse B. Oldendorf of 7th Fleet annihilate Admiral Nishimura's southern force, destroying all but 1 of his destroyers, both his battleships (killing him in the process), and his heavy cruiser. - Part III: Battle off Samar (October 25) - American 7th Fleet's Taffy 3 under RAdm Clifton "Ziggy" Sprague with 6 escort carriers, 3 destroyers, and 4 destroyer escorts faced the entire IJN center force under V.Adm. Takeo Kurita with 4 battleships including the monster Yamato, 6 heavy cruisers (four would be sunk), 2 light cruisers, and 11 destroyers; the Americans won with 2 DDs, 1 DE, and 2 CVEs sunk (one of the 2 CVEs was sunk via the first ever kamikaze: the St. Lo), and as I already stated the IJN lost 4 CA to a combination of scuttling due to damage and air attacks. Taffy 3 headed off the largest IJN fleet in the battle, a David vs. Goliath scenario. - Part IV: Battle of Cape Engano - The US 3rd fleet under Adm Halsey controversially went north just when the center force turned around to head back to Leyte. But they did find the carrier fleet, but... it was the northern decoy force under Adm. Ozawa, basically no threat. They did however sink the Zuikaku, the last Pearl Harbor carrier left after the disasters at Midway and Philippine Sea.
@oldfrend Жыл бұрын
engano should be part 3 cuz it happened first, and also samar would be a glorious finale.
@MrNicoJac Жыл бұрын
I learned more from this comment than the entire Wikipedia article. Thanks for being so succinct and clear, major chops!
@snapshotinhistory1367 Жыл бұрын
@@oldfrend Very true, but I was going off the fact that Engano lasted into the 26th, not much of the 26th but still, but I totally agree, that would be a glorious finale
@snapshotinhistory1367 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNicoJac Your welcome, I thought I accidently made it slightly unreadable due to length and some minor punctuation and grammar mistakes, I was thinking only I could understand what I wrote, you ever done that?
@thenumbah1birdman Жыл бұрын
I think Engano should be included in Part 3-it happened at the same time as Samar and juggling the two in the same video would highlight the SNAFUS committed by both sides on October the 25th 1944 better.
@geekyzebra91 Жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of documentaries about ww2, but none of them come close to what this channel puts out... I always learn something new and it's great
@douglasmcroberts9586 Жыл бұрын
Read some of samuel elliot morrisons books on the navy ww2.
@nikolailucyk Жыл бұрын
One of your best animations so far with so. much going on! Keep up the great work!
@joeschenk8400 Жыл бұрын
Another great one...parts 1 and 2 and the Intel report were all great. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos.
@alexandersloane7662 Жыл бұрын
This is the best channel ever. I love waking up and seeing a new video dropped.
@51tetra69 Жыл бұрын
God bless those brave naval aviators and sailors who sacrificed so much to protect our country and preserve the freedoms we enjoy today! God bless America!
@Weshopwizard Жыл бұрын
Taking off so late in the afternoon knowing that you will most likely have to ditch in the ocean. That is bravery.
@SnakeSalmon8izback Жыл бұрын
Japan wanted to "steal our freedoms"? The monsters!
@br0k3nman Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Kings and Generals. Their pacific series has been excellent.
@Weshopwizard Жыл бұрын
@@br0k3nman went and watched it. It is very good.
@Warmaster_24 Жыл бұрын
From the animations of Desert storm till now, the animation and commentary is still great as always.
@TeknoKseno Жыл бұрын
The fact that this got demotized really shows the state of KZbin.
@sudoFrank Жыл бұрын
Awesome content as always. My absolute favorite history channel. I'd love to see a series or even single video on the Korean War - It has a lot of relevance today! These battles in WWII against the Japanese set the stage for our current geopolitical climate in Asia :)
@theCoolLew Жыл бұрын
I'm a veteran and historian and I LOVE your videos. I'm always excited when you release one 🙂
@DanielSmith-ld9rq Жыл бұрын
I definitely think Spruance was right though, he was there to protect the landings in the Marianas and he did that brilliantly, look at what Haley does when we invade the Philippines, he chases the carriers and nearly gets our landings wiped out by a Japanese surface force off Samar
@DanielSmith-ld9rq Жыл бұрын
Halsey -
@brentmiller6414 Жыл бұрын
While you are right that Halsey messed up there and no excuses for that, the US 8th fleet, the same fleet who blew the southern force out of the water would've likely had the time to intercept the centre force even if taffy 3 would've been annihilated
@arbitrage2141 Жыл бұрын
Naval battle are my favorite. The aircraft carriers are the icing on the cake! Absolutely beautiful video, please, PLEASE do more naval and naval aviation battles. I love these ones
@mrjamesho Жыл бұрын
6:53 The CVL next to the Hiyo should be labeled the Ryuho. The Ryujo was sunk in the Battle of the Eastern Solomons.
@genericgamer2003 Жыл бұрын
I just finished binging all the videos on your channel over the past few days and was sad there weren't any more. Thanks for delivering more! :D
@jarredacheson8623 Жыл бұрын
Shame that such a talented content creator gets demonitized for such a silly reason. Great vid OR❤
@shinsenshogun900 Жыл бұрын
Operations Room being the absolute GOAT in KZbin here with these narrative visuals!
@stevecastro1325 Жыл бұрын
Great narration! Thanks for another good tale of heroism and sacrifice on both sides. I don’t know how the IJN pilots found the courage to face that aerial mob. They paid dearly for their bravery.
@modest_spice6083 Жыл бұрын
Eagerly waiting for the battles of Surigao Strait, Sibuyan Sea and the legendary Battle off Samar!
@markstott6689 Жыл бұрын
Samar deserves an episode of its own.
@jimcronin2043 Жыл бұрын
Although Adm. Spruance was criticized by some, he was supported by Adms Nimitz and King because he saw his mission as support of the Marianas invasion and he was proved correct. Even Adm. Mitscher later acknowledged it.
@kuyukimakuyo64675 ай бұрын
Two things i love: 1: that flight leader was smart to think to have the group land in close proximity to tie the rafts together 2: that photo with all the flak in the air made my jaw drop, I couldnt imagine what they were thinking, and i imagine the sound would be deafening to hear outside your cockpit
@bja009 Жыл бұрын
F KZbin's demonitization policy
@IMeanMachine101 Жыл бұрын
I have lost count the amount of times I have recommended this guy to people its very very good.
@anzyroadside2374 Жыл бұрын
When you lose more planes during landing operations than actual combat, you know there is a massive air dominance.
@718Insomniac Жыл бұрын
Big props on defending Vlogging Through History Channel. Keep up the amazing content.
@Obospeedo Жыл бұрын
9:40 must’ve been a beautiful sight seeing all those ships suddenly light up from the air.
@robertoroberto9798 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me when the Île de France lit up its lights to rescue the Andrea Doria.
@FrankPloegman Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your phenomenal content! It was already great and each successive video seems to have additional improvements.
@emwungarand Жыл бұрын
Damn, that Ryujo/Ryuho thing generates as many comments as "Did you know the actor of Aragorn actually broke his toe when he kicked that Orcs helmet?"
@lexprontera8325 Жыл бұрын
That comparison 😆 You are not wrong.
@Mr.Soggywaffleafagous Жыл бұрын
Yassss, keep ‘em comin. Always look forward to your uploads!!!
@preoximerianas Жыл бұрын
Imagine you were one of those pilots coming back to the carriers in pitch black. You’re tired from the battle, anxious and worried at your lack of fuel and whether you could land in pitch black. And then suddenly, the entire fleet lights up like a Christmas tree. All done to make sure you land safely even with the present danger of possible Japanese submarines. I would’ve remembered that moment for life.
@NVRAMboi Жыл бұрын
***THIS CHANNEL SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE MILLION SUBSCRIBERS! Thanks for this excellent episode.
@NotTheCIA1961 Жыл бұрын
>Resulting in one of the largest naval battles in history Leyte Gulf episode confirmed?
@Rick-Rarick Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy this channel's content!
@keithfarrell3370 Жыл бұрын
Unreal presentation. Best military history channel out there
@ModernNCRph Жыл бұрын
Another great series. Can't wait for the Battle of Leyte Gulf episodes
@usmc4eternitey Жыл бұрын
That’s the naval battle that he was saying happened after the great marianas turkey shoot right? Like the next battle ?
@nogisonoko5409 Жыл бұрын
@@usmc4eternitey Battle off Philippines sea which is this video are where the "great marianas turkey shoot occured". Battle of Leyte Gulf is the next major battle after this video battle as US invasion of Phillipines are underway.
@De_Wit Жыл бұрын
This channel as a whole just keeps getting better and better 😁👍🏻
@Atlas_Fortis Жыл бұрын
Rushed to click on this as soon as it notified me.
@aighti Жыл бұрын
Another masterpiece! You guys deliver gold
@PxThucydides Жыл бұрын
An example of the truth of a Ludendorff remark. "Strategic brilliance without tactical superiority is useless." So long as the Japanese air could not compete with the Hellcats they had zero chance.
@Macromental Жыл бұрын
LOVE these animations and explanations.. just amazing how much luck has to do with victory
@josephkiely6576 Жыл бұрын
What a treat seeing this video!!!
@daniellucas1494 Жыл бұрын
The Night The Lights Came On - excellent job sir. I anxiously await your next posting!
@knightwatchman Жыл бұрын
In the late afternoon attack, my wife's uncle, a gunner on a TBM Avenger from the USS Yorktown's VT-1, was shot down and lost while glide bombing a Japanese carrier. He was declared dead one year later.
@Zues120 Жыл бұрын
Weird how like 3 big military history channels all post high quality versions of this battle within a week of eachother is crazy lol
@Dylan-Jams Жыл бұрын
thanks for the great videos!
@p2kwolf Жыл бұрын
Holy heck I'm early...time to sit back and enjoy a great vid!
@Mr.Scootini Жыл бұрын
Please do Battle of Borneo 1945. My great grandfather was on the Japanese side. My grandpa said that he came home looking like a zombie. Skinny, weak and just exhausted. I’d love to know what happened.
@seanmyers4730 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the bs mate. Amazing video as always.
@Snarkbar Жыл бұрын
Wasp's group taking out those oilers was nearly as important as taking out the carriers. A carrier isn't much use without fuel.
@svgproductions72 Жыл бұрын
Great videos as usual sir! Love the ship animations!