Is Metroid Prime really a Metroid?

[@TheOrpheon]

Before you decide to type in the obvious joke of "well its called METROID prime so yeah it is" please take a moment to watch the video since I discuss the origins of the name/title within the game's universe. ALSO do keep in mind that, as I said in the video, this theory is based on the lore of the NTSC version, since I grew up with it and didn't get a chance to play the PAL version much later (with the Trilogy version) Either way, I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching

[@HectorLopez-fq2jt]

Metroid Trainer did an episode on what is Metroid Prime. It made a lot of sense. He claims that prime is a metroid that mutated into one of those phasing metroids from MP3. That's how it got inside. Then mutated into those jumping metroid with the armor and thus grew huge from the phazon. Or something like that.

[@SSJ3MetaridleyXros]

i guess the base creature that mutated into metroid prime and the fission metroids is the same base creature that the sr388 chozo use to create the original "bioweapon" metroid against the X. probably the base creature species got long ago to the planet phaaze and mutated there into MPs and are sent in leviathans to other planets. also the chozo could discover this creature on another planet and modify it into the x-eating species. i guess this base creature/species has maybe also flying abilities and also "some sort" of energy absorbtion in his larva stage, so the chozo modified them to work against "anything", even the x-parasites. maybe there was some sort of "discovery race" long before the chozo, luminoth & co. and transport these base creature along the galaxy/universe. remember how other species on planet earth colonize the planet like cats or rats - through human exploration.

[@miguelnavejar4354]

The short answers is no, but the information you seek is on pirate log, weapons and all the habilites of MP. They said MP is similar to the metroid, every time They figth the creature, the creature adaptes to the weapons that are use, even the strong élite are not problem for creature, the pirate log said the creature adap the weapons to the body and use weapon, in the end of the game before explote MP absorb the phazon suit the information of samus inside for the creature is no more creature stronger than the hunter that's why creature looks similar. Mi inglés es malo casi no lo preactico escribiéndolo, I like the videos thanks

[@Eichro]

The changes in logbook in PAL were needed. If you read the logs carefully you would've, even if inconsciously, realized there's a glaring plot hole as Pirates managed to access the Core and study the Metroid Prime despite it being locked behind 12 artifacts when Samus arrives. I think we can assume the findings they describe are canon, but the fact that they managed to get to these findings was retconned. About the idea of Metroid Prime being a.. well, metroid, there is something you failed to mention: Metroid Prime spawns metroids in the second phase. There's only one explanation I can think for this that doesn't involve Prime being a metroid, and it's that it can somehow absorb other lifeforms' genetic information (or something), hence Dark Samus. The likeliest explanation is that Prime absorbed a Metroid's information - and, for that, it means it actually came into contact with metroids despite being locked up - and learned how to spawn them in the process. Or maybe we're overthinking and Metroid Prime is, as mentioned, part of a plothole that can't be covered.

[@ultraspinalki11]

The Chozo likely encountered the Leviathan Core worm when the meteor fell on Tallon IV. And then when the Pirates established their bases on Tallon IV, one of their Metroid specimens escaped and evolved into a Phazon Metroid from Prime 3. This allowed it to pass through the Impact crater shield, where it evolved into a Hopping Metroid and eventually into Metroid Prime. EDIT: Oh and the Metroid ate the Phazon Core, stealing its power of producing Phazon. Metroids are known to steal abilities in some games.

[@FrahdChikun]

Keep in mind in Prime 3, while exploring Phaaze you can find husks that belonged to other Metroid Primes. Considering Phaaze is full of Phazon Metroids (Tallon IV Metroids heavily corrupted by Phazon) and the fact that the Prime can breed Metroids might allude to the fact that a Metroid Prime is the Phazon Metroid equivalent to a Queen Metroid.

[@BlueAmpharos]

I didn't think of that, I suppose since the space pirates phazon experiments massively disrupting their "natural" life cycle there could be a corrupted variation of a metroid queen. In Metroid Prime 2 the log calls them not Metroids but "Tallon Metroids", and these mutations would also explain how the metroids could be killed without being frozen and shattered while brittle, a simple power beam is enough to kill them eventually even if cold is still the best solution.

[@mitchjames9350]

To my head cannon the Chozon got a Metroid in the hopes it will drain the life force of the Levitation to prevent future spread. But it caused it to mutate from Phazon exposure resulting in its ability to absorb dna and replacing the levitation as the source of Phazon on Tallon IV. To explain why it has a face like a Chozo it had attacked a Chozo and absorbed its dna

[@GarryDumblowski]

@@BlueAmpharos I think it's supposed to be implied that Tallon Metroids are normal Metroids that adapted to the environments of Tallon IV, but honestly now that I think on it I feel like the Metroids should have had another unique transformation on Aether. The only difference is that the Metroids on Aether have a unique membrane color, though, so...?

[@gsg04]

Ether way the metroid prime is still technically the final boss in all three games

[@TheOrpheon]

Well no, Aurora Unit 313 is the final boss of Prime 3 :,(

[@gsg04]

The Orpheon well yeah but I always thought dark samus was controlling the aurora unit from the inside of the unit. Also she does send out copies of her self too attack you during that boss fight. But in the end I guess it's just me wanting the final bosses too tie into the actual title of the games somehow.

[@FrostbiteB83]

@@TheShadowDragon777 in that case the Aurora unit would be more like an exo skeleton or armor or SUIT :P I also felt bat for killing AU 313 since she didn't choose to join the dark side but was forced to do so. I wonder what it feels like to be corrupted.

[@Yokai_Yuri]

@@TheOrpheon Aurora unit which Dark Samus biologically fused...I guess it is still the same?

[@luisrosado7050]

@@TheOrpheon controlled by dark samus

[@phantasm1234]

Might be a weak reason, but Phazon Metroids in Prime 3 can move through solid matter, so Fission Metroids got through the walls of the impact Crater in the same way!

[@murrayrystead4203]

Chozo probably sensed the worm (core) .... But it's possible the Chozo tried so many different ways to dispose of the phazon, maybe even using their trump card, a metroid. The core then chose the metroid to become the impact craters guardian thus becoming a fission Metroid and then evolving into a Metroid Prime.

[@Wileybot2004]

Murray Rystead the fission Metroid splitting could also be the reason we find multiple Metroids within the impact crater.

[@murrayrystead4203]

@@Wileybot2004 totally ... Also remember the Phaze Metroids from Metroid Prime 3 Corruption. Those ones cause Phaze in and out. Possibly could go through walls, including the impact crater.

[@MrHydra12]

I feel like I’m the only one remembering the eggs in the boss room. One of the floors you drop down to has eggs in it kind of like the room in other M, all scattered about like a xenomorph nest

[@georgebrown4796]

@@murrayrystead4203 The Metroids were not native to Tallon IV but instead were imported by the Space Pirates long after the Chozo created the containment field/the artifact temple over the crater.

[@eiriseven]

My headcanon is that one of the metroids the pirates brought to the planet was infected with phazon so much that it became a Phazon Metroid, capable of phazing (heh) through walls, escaped their lab and was lured inside the leviathan to become the guardian, only that this metroid decided to eat the core and take its place.

[@ragnell27]

Yeah, I am pretty sure of that too.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Then why are there Metroid Prime husks in 3?

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

​@@jesusramirezromo2037 At some point, Dark Samus brought some Metroids to Phaaze, as Phazon Metroids and Hopping Metroids (which look like mini versions of Metroid Prime's exoskeleton) are pretty common there. Presumably, some of them (ones that would have been Queen Metroids if not mutated maybe?) followed the same life cycle and development as Metroid Prime did

[@speedude0164]

I didn't like this theory at first since it implies what we fight is just something that took the place of the Worm that plagued the Chozo instead of the Worm itself, but after doing another playthrough where I fill out the logbook, it's grown on me. The Chozo never really refer to the Great Poison they're facing as any kind of creature, and since they can see into the future, the Worm could just be the form they foresaw the Phazon Core taking when facing the Entrusted One. The Pirates also state that the Impact Crater houses a massive creature absorbing large amounts of Phazon from the core. This creature is very evidently Metroid Prime, and that description really fits this theory. It seems it may have happened quite recently too, since Fission Metroids are born from Phazon and they only start showing up after you defeat the Omega Pirate. I love how Leviathans can effect planets differently based on what's on them; Tallon IV would become a Pirate base in the future and therefore the core was fused with a Metroid, and for Aether, the Leviathan seemingly fused with the Luminoth's light energy to create a dark reflection of the planet. This also means Dark Samus started out as just a Metroid, which is super cool.

[@phantasm1234]

I feel like Metroid Prime must be a metroid in some capacity since it can SPAWN metroids in the second phase of the battle. There really isn't a way around that that I can think of.

[@DropkickNation]

Good point!

[@MasterBuller]

Was thinking the same, I'm surprised he didn't mention that in the video

[@countlazuli8753]

That is definitely true. And the Tallon IV leviathan is filled with fission metroids prior to the battle as well.

[@florsch6781]

Jup, was thinking the same thing

[@IamCanadian3333]

My own theory and I've seen this is a generally accepted theory (not the accepted one but one many headcanon). Some time after the leviathan crashed on to Tallon IV when the Pirates had discovered the planet (shortly after their defeat at Zebes courtesy of Samus aka Zero Mission) and the phazon the meteor brought, and somewhat colonized the planet to mine this resource. They also brought some of their surviving metroids to the planet as well, and logbooks have stated that it wasn't uncommon for metroids to escape or wander off. It's also stated that when leviathan crashes, it attracts a native species which it mutates to become the leviathan's guardian. Now because the Chozo had set up the Cradle, a shield that contains the leviathan thus limiting it's spread and preventing any species from approaching the leviathan. Now we know that a metroid is capable of evolving into a phazon metroid (courtesy of the phazon), so one can assume that one of the metroids (or a Tallon Metroid) eventually was able to morph into a phazon metroid. Now phazon metroids have the ability to "phase" through objects and obstacles. So it's possible a phazon metroid was able to "phase" through the Cradle to the Impact Crater. It further mutated into a metroid hopper, which made it lose its ability to "phase" and thus was now contained in the Impact Crater. Eventually it was able to to further mutate thanks to the near-infinite phazon the leviathan was pouring. It was able to eventually morph into the Metroid Prime we know of and actually absorbed the leviathan's phazon core, thus gaining its ability to produce phazon...note the phazon core was probably long since dead since no guardian was able to come to it in time, courtesy of the Cradle shield. Thus Metroid Prime was able to become the "phazon core." My own 2 cents.

[@betchaos7383]

2:33 *insert obligatory "why does everything keep evolving into crabs?" joke here

[@The_Legend_Maybe]

All I know is Metroid Prime was enjoying a very nice, peaceful life when Samus came and screwed everything up. Clearly Samus is the bad guy, that's a correct theory

[@myleswelnetz6700]

But if the Chozo wanted it to live, they wouldn’t have created SAMUS!

[@knellycornnan5132]

Yea come to think about it, Metroid Prime wasn't really bothering Samus. It was hidden away in a sealed location. Samus could have just left it sealed.

[@AlphaCrucis]

@@knellycornnan5132 I think the seal wasn't perfect and was still leaking phazon into the world. Plus, she had to destroy it before the pirates got to it.

[@knellycornnan5132]

@@AlphaCrucis yeea good point. I've since reevaluated this thinking since I last wrote this anyway.

[@raitothetanuki]

I go by the PAL version since I couldn't beat the game until I was much older. Then I played the Trilogy. My theory is based on the PAL version and by what I've seen in Corruption. The worm is possibly the leviathan core. However, once Space Pirates came to the planet, one of the Metroids escaped from their labs and became a Phazon Metroid. The Phazon Metroid phased through the Chozo seal on the Artifact Temple and infiltrated the Impact Crater. Once inside it absorbed lots of Phazon to become a Hopping Metroid, then it ate the Leviathan's core and all the Phazon within to become Metroid Prime. The Metroid Primes in Phaaze are Phazon Metroids feeding on the Leviathan womb's Phazon and mutated into Primes. For Dark Samus to obtain power, she absorbed the life-force and Phazon from the Metroid Primes in the area, that's why there's only husks by the time Samus arrived.

[@stefanoponce6090]

I agree with almost all of this. The only thing that doesn't make much sense to me is how did the metroids got to Phaaze in the first place? I know Dark Samus kinda took over the pirates, so maybe this allowed them to take some metroids to Phaaze as well.

[@raitothetanuki]

@@stefanoponce6090 yup!

[@stardy316]

Also, Dark Samus canonically is a girlboss, don't gaslight us. (seriously, her log entry in Echoes refers to her with female pronouns)

[@raitothetanuki]

​@@stardy316 lol, it seems made a typo, since I always refer dark samus as she/it

[@myleswelnetz6700]

By “the worm”, the Chozo were talking about the Metroid Prime.

[@baylaust]

I doubt we'll ever know the truth behind what Metroid Prime really was, since the original log entries have been retconned, and the new ones really don't touch on Metroid Prime itself at all. But if we wanted to go with the idea that it WAS a legitimately mutated Metroid, Prime 3 can actually give us a clue as to how it came to be. Namely in their unique mutation: Phazon Metroids. First is their design. We know that they're Tallon Metroids that have been exposed to a LOT of Phazon, so already this is a breed of Metroid that could have originated on Tallon IV. Their physical appearance also appears drastically different than their main Tallon counterpart. Namely, their inner nucleus is far more developed and looks almost like a brain, and their fangs are MUCH longer... almost like they're turning into legs. You could almost view this as the first stage of a Metroid's mutation into a Prime. But more importantly is their unique abilities. Besides enhanced strength and the usual Metroid strappings, they gain one very unique ability: the ability to phase through solid matter for a period of time. This is key. So let's pose this theory: after the Leviathan hits Tallon IV and the core begins to spread its Phazon through the planet, the Space Pirates arrive to do their Space Pirate thing. They discover this Phazon substance, and do what they spend the rest of the game doing: shoving Phazon into anything they can find and seeing what happens. Including the Metroids they brought to Tallon IV to breed. Given the various Pirate Logs and terminal scans providing plenty of examples of their incompetence, along with COPIOUS warnings and punishments for mishandling Metroids, I don't think it'd be a stretch to assume some random Space Pirate happened to lose track of one of the Metroids they were experimenting on. It finds a nice puddle of Phazon somewhere (there's no shortage on the planet anymore, after all), and away from Pirate eyes, it mutates into a Phazon Metroid. This little Metroid wants to consume more Phazon, and as it wanders Tallon IV looking for more, it finds the site of the Impact Crater, and uses its new ability to casually phase right inside, past the Chozo structure built to contain it, and heads into the Leviathan Core to feed on as much Phazon as it can, growing and mutating all the while until it evolves into Metroid Prime, and having consumed so much within the seed, that it effectively becomes the Leviathan's new core. Hence why when Prime dies, the Leviathan dies with it. We also know that the Leviathans use Phazon Corruption to lure a member of the planets' species there to mutate them and turn them into a Guardian for the inner core, so that could have been the Leviathan's intention with this Metroid. But with the Metroid's ability to siphon the life energy of any living being, maybe this backfired on the core, and is what allowed the Metroid to become the Leviathan's new core, and the new source of Phazon. Are there some leaps in logic and holes in this theory? Definitely. But with how vague the game is on the origin of this creature, and the general inconsistencies and retcons regarding its origins, I think that's inevitable with ANY theory.

[@alexbridden1594]

Hey! I love your content as I'm huge into the Metroid lore. That being said, I think that the Metroid Prime is absolutely a Metroid. Or, at least it was. Here's why I think that: 1. I'm pretty certain that "the worm" is actually meant to refer to the leviathan seed itself rather than the Metroid Prime. -"born from parasites" Born from Phaaze since Phazon itself could be seen as parasitic in nature. -"nurtured in a poisoned womb" I'm certain that this references the "serpentine womb" found in the room called "genesis chamber" on Phaaze containing the infant Leviathan. Samus needed to destroy both the womb and the infant leviathan in order to reach the sanctum where Dark Samus was waiting. 2. It's theorized that the Metroid Prime merged with either the leviathan phazon core or it's remains at some point to get it's exoskeleton and phazon producing ability. -This theory could be supported by the fact that upon it's defeat, the Metroid Prime rips off Samus's phazon suit and merges with it to later become Dark Samus. -There is almost certainly some sort of connection between the Metroid Prime and the phazon cores since the Metroid Prime is seen hanging in a very similar fashion to the cores on the ceiling of it's lair. They also both produce phazon. (this point supports both your explanation, as well as mine) -The seed on Tallon IV did technically have a guardian, but that guardian was the Metroid Prime itself. It sort of functioned as the core and the guardian at the same time. 3. It's also explained that Metroids were brought to Phaaze by Dark Samus and the space pirates sometime before the events of Metroid Prime 3. Presumably between the events of Prime 2 and 3. -This could explain the husks found on Phaaze that are stated to be indentical to the exoskeleton of the original Metroid Prime. -Another thing to note about the husks is that while they are stated to be identical, they are much smaller than the original. This could imply that they weren't there as long as the Metroid Prime was on Tallon IV, or that they were the result of Metroids merging with leviathans that were not fully grown. The latter could be supported by the location of the husks being the genesis chamber which houses leviathans in a very early stage of their life cycle. 4. In regards to how the Metroid Prime entered the impact crater in the first place: To my knowledge, it's never fully explained. -A possible explanation that I've heard several times is that a particularly mutated Metroid that may have had more phazon exposure than usual became a Phazon Metroid(Similar or identical to the variant seen in Metroid Prime 3) and was able to use it's ability to pass through solid surfaces to reach the impact crater as it searched for more phazon. -The presence of another Metroid in the crater for some time could explain why Fission Metroids are found in the impact crater and are in fact, quite plentiful as well. -It's important to note that the Metroid Prime is capable of spawning Metroids in various forms, including: Standard Tallon Metroids, Hunter Metroids and even Fission Metroids, and does so during the final stage of it's boss fight. This indicates that there is likely at least some connection between the Metroid Prime and those various forms of Metroids. Particularly the Fission Metroids since the "Colour-coded" weaknesses are seen on the Metroid Prime during the first phase of it's bos fight as well. -I don't know whether this supports that theory much or not, but it should be noted that the Chozo's seal did not completely stop the spread of phazon from the impact crater outward. It did howeevr significantly slow it's spread, but phazon was still able to spread outward to other parts of the planet. Anyways, even though I don't agree with the theory, I really enjoyed the video. Cheers!

[@TheOrpheon]

Glad you enjoyed the video, its a silly idea I had since I was a kid that I was happy to make into a video. Either way thanks for watching

[@alexbridden1594]

@@TheOrpheon Thanks for the reply. Whether I agree with the theory or not, it was a cool video and an interesting theory! Anything Metroid lore related gets and keeps my attention quite well. I actually enjoy when people theorize about the Metroid universe in any way, it gets me thinking and creates interesting discussions.

[@alexbridden1594]

@Nick O That's cool that you had the same idea regarding the seed. After trying to find an explanation for quite some time, as to why the seed core wasn't there and the Metroid prime was in it's place and resembled it when in it's exo form, that was eventually the conclusion that I came to. I always thought that the Metroid prime had the ability(possibly through phazon based mutation) to absorb/merge with certain things or entities. I always figured that the seed core was at the receiving end of the same thing that happened to Samus's phazon suit. I love how Metroid lore gets us all thinking and talking!

[@alexbridden1594]

@Nick O The Aether seed is a weird case. I don't know if it even exists anymore after the formation of Dark Aether, I'm pretty sure that the leviathan is gone somehow, but the seed core itself must have existed in some form, or phazon wouldn't have spread across Dark Aether. Supposedly the Ing were born from the impact of the Aether seed, so maybe whatever happened in order for Dark Aether to be created, as well as the Ing, somehow transformed the seed into what would become Emperor Ing? Or, an even stranger possibility: Perhaps the seed core fell victim to darkling possession and mutated further at some point after that? It's interesting to think about.

[@EmeraldEdge72]

Think of the type of creature, monster, or villain that so long as there is a part of me there existing I can spawn myself there. If any of my power DNA has touched or copied a creature I can summon them or create them whether I am on the planet or not. If a part of me is in you I can manipulate you. This all happened Metroid prime 1-3 especially with Gandrayda, Ghor, and Rundas. There was even a whole story arc of how the race on Bryyo fell once the seed came, it is well documented in the lore as they too were being corrupted from the phazon.

[@svagglaorde4387]

Orpheon: Is Metroid Prime really a Metroid? Me: It's actually Pennywise's ultimate form.

[@TheOrpheon]

You thought it was Pennywise it was in fact, him, DIO

[@mr.shtinko983]

@@TheOrpheon ZA WARUDO!

[@TridentIISLBM]

@@mr.shtinko983 *time stops*

[@FuryMcpurey]

@@TridentIISLBM One second has passed. Two seconds have passed. Three seconds have passed. Four seconds have passed. (continue until time unfreezes)

[@GrizbyK72]

Old comment but I had played Metroid Prime before reading IT, so for me yes, I had mentally inserted Prime as the creature’s physical form.

[@Nic5Cyprus]

Don't question Bird Magic

[@ironmaniscool]

You said that Metroid Prime is the most powerful being given the Chozo's definition of Metroid being "ultimate warrior". After defeating Metroid Prime, it then views Samus as the this ultimate warrior. Proceeding to steal the Phazon suit from Samus and becoming a corrupted version of her. I find it pretty cool how the game leads up to Metroid Prime being the strongest enemy in the game, only for Metroid Prime to clone Samus by the end of the game.

[@GrizbyK72]

Chozo logs never refer to the creature as Metroid Prime, just as “the worm”. They could be referring to the leviathan itself or even its core. Also the red phazon could either be a result of the core death, or the substances inability to leak further into the planet, becoming highly concentrated.

[@mitchjames9350]

Good point on red Phazon, in my head cannon the Chozo tried using a Metroid to suck the levitations life force hoping to stop the spread but it ended up mutating the Metroid thanks to Phazon, it gained the ability to absorb dna resulting it absorbing the levitations dna and replacing it as the source of Phazon. To explain why it had a face like a Chozo it had attacked a Chozo and absorbed its dna.

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It’s like a worm in an apple.

[@matthewbrodbeck1523]

Me: sees new The Orpheon upload Also me: *insert Metroid fusion Ridley screech

[@RobertSeeJen]

I didn't actually hear it, but my ears are bleeding. Thanks for that lol.

[@mr.shtinko983]

Crime

[@epictetushasepictiddiez2615]

I wanna give this comment a like but its at 69 so I'll just comment instead lol ♡

[@tacticalnut528]

@@epictetushasepictiddiez2615 there ya go i ruined it

[@skakirask]

Pirate Data log that was in the NTSC version but removed from all subsequent versions of the game: “Test subject Z-d, hereafter referred to as Metroid Prime, was recently discovered in a cavern by mining crews. It quickly dispatched the miners, but was eventually contained by security units and drones. Once contained, we were able to begin studies upon Metroid Prime. The results have been astonishing. It is genetically similar to Metroids, albeit on a highly evolved level. It displays a limitless capacity for Phazon infusion and shows no Phazon-based degeneration whatsoever. It continues to grow in size, and while it has manifested some psychotic behavior, the cold fields we use to pacify remain effective. Authorization for advanced studies on Metroid Prime have been approved.”

[@skakirask]

And another: Subject Metroid Prime's breach has been contained. Reports indicate that it sensed a large batch of raw Phazon in the lab from within its stasis tank and broke through the glass, using previously unsuspected strength. Besides consuming all of the Phazon, Metroid Prime assimilated several weapons and defense systems from fallen security units. It has suffered no ill effects from said assimilation; indeed, it began to use its newly acquired weapons against us. Once we pacified it, we were unable to remove the assimilated gear without threat to Metroid Prime--the gear is now an integral part of its body. Command is intrigued by this newfound ability, and has ordered further study to commence at once.

[@Gran.Estratega]

This video is amazing! It's great how you just adressed a topic I had been wondering about since I played the game! Greetings from Spain!!

[@TheOrpheon]

Me alegro que el video te haya gustado. Espero poder entretenerte en el futuro. Saludos y espero que estes seguro (e visto las noticias de la situacion en Espana)

[@lautapinter]

@@TheOrpheon WOW, no sabía que hablabas español! Saludos desde Argentina

[@hailhydreigon2700]

I can see two theories. 1. Fission Metroids/Metroid Prime were the originals and they were used by the Chozo to create their own Metroids to fight the X on SR388. 2. The Chozo sent in Metroids to deal with the worm, only for it to corrupt them and possibly even absorb their power.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

I support the first version.

[@mophead1666]

I'm pretty sure the Chozo on Tallon IV did not have Metroids at all. They're basically the monk clan of Chozo that abandoned their technology to go back to nature. I see no reason to think they would have some, as they aren't stated to have any in logs, which seems intentional and would fit thematically. It far more likely came from the Space Pirates.

[@Aereto]

​@@mophead1666 And one of the Metroids brought by Space Pirates became dependent and severely mutated by Phazon before it infiltrated the Chozo Cradle. While the infiltration is a mystery, the Metroids themselves are created by a Chozo tribe to combat the X Parasites and feed on them through pure energy absorption. Phazon is a biohazardous and radioactive substance with extreme energy potential. While the Tallon IV Chozo focused on ascetic monkhood, they did not abandon technology as seen in their ruins.

[@mitchjames9350]

The second version sounds more reasonable, they could of used a Metroid in the hopes it would stop the spread of it absorbing the levithans life Force but the Phazon exposure mutated it and it gained the ability to absorb dna. This resulted in the Metroid replacing the leviathan as the source of Phazon on Tallon IV and to explain why it has a face it absorbed a Chozo shortly after.

[@mitchjames9350]

@@mophead1666 they could of easily made a Metroid.

[@JediMB]

Given that the MP Trilogy are practically in an alternate timeline, and takes place after the first game, I personally wouldn't use any lore from games more recent than Super Metroid. Going by the Leviathan Infant logbook entry in MP3--especially the final paragraph--I would conclude that: 1) Metroid Prime is a Metroid enthralled by the Tallon IV Leviathan and mutated by its phazon. Its true form is the one you fight in the final phase of the boss fight. 2) The crab-like exoskeleton you first encounter isn't actually a part of the Metroid. The logbook specifically states that the Leviathan leaves behind its armored shell when it dies after enthralling a guardian for the Phazon core. Metroid Prime has simply possessed that shell. 3) This whole thing just reminds me of the Sephiroth/Jenova situation in Final Fantasy VII now. Also, while I'm a PAL-player, I believe my assumption at the time of the original game may have been that the Chozo on Tallon IV had their own Metroid(s) for one reason or another, which (unbeknownst to them) got drawn to the impact crater shortly after the Leviathan arrived. I believe the games are a bit fuzzy (especially with all the logbook revisions) about how much time has passed since Tallon IV was hit, but I do suppose another option is that the Leviathan stayed alive (maybe hibernated) until the Space Pirates arrived and one of their Metroids ended up being the first create to make it past the Chozo's safeguards and come into direct contact with the Leviathan "worm".

[@StormsparkPegasus]

The lore from the US Gamecube release of Metroid Prime is not canon. The PAL version, and all subsequent releases like Trilogy have different lore that say that the pirates detected a lifeform in the crater but didn't know what it was. The US GC version is an unfinished beta. It has several outright broken things (the music for Flaahgra does not play, and Meta Ridley gets stuck in his charge cycle and never transitions to his "jump" phase, he also becomes invincible to anything but the wavebuster - that fight is SO BROKEN in the NTSC GC release it's not even funny). The lore in that is also an early unfinished version, when they had planned the story to go in a different direction than it ultimately did. I do think they ORIGINALLY intended for it to be a metroid, but plans obviously changed.

[@xyifer12]

It's authentic, official work done with the consent of Nintendo as a paid job. It's literally canon.

[@JEANS__]

@@xyifer12 hows your logic make any sense. both cant be canon, so you think the one with only one release compared to the updated version used in every copy after is the only canon one?

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@xyifer12 But it's not. The same developer released a new version that completely retconned everything and changed the lore. They even said that the original lore was bits and pieces of an earlier version, when they were planning on taking the story in a different direction than it actually ended up going. The PAL lore leads into Metroid Prime 2 and 3. The GC NTSC lore...leads into nothing because it was never continued.

[@Inferno144]

At the very start of the video he said he was not using the PAL version for this video.

[@Mabra51]

@@xyifer12 It's not canon.

[@ezrato]

It's possible that the Chozo visited Phaaze and actually created the first Metroid there to combat the threat of all the monsters that had mutated from the Phazon. Then maybe it backfired and the Metroid itself mutated into Metroid Prime. The Chozo's visit to Phaaze would also explain why Metroid Prime has Chozo armour - could've absorbed it from some Chozo on Phaaze. Phaaze is also described as being sentient, so it's possible that sending the seed to Tallon IV with Metroid Prime inside was a means of revenge to reek havoc among the Chozo.

[@garrettwilson8471]

It was because the space pirates found a way in the crater without the need of finding the artifacts, you can find the entries for that information in the space pirates bases!

[@StevoDesign]

That's a plothole and makes no sense. They were working extremely hard to unlock the crater, why would they keep doing that and looking for the artifacts if they just went around the lock? And for that matter why would Samus need them?

[@garrettwilson8471]

You just need to scan for lore.

[@StevoDesign]

@@garrettwilson8471 you're misunderstand me, I know the lore is there in the first release of the game, but the lore creates a plothole and they fixed it in later versions of the game.

[@philosopher51]

10:50 Did the Chozo not create the Metroids? Maybe they used some DNA from the Metroid Prime to create a new Creature like teh normal Metroid. That is why tehy called it the Metroid PRIME and the others simply Metroids. The Metroid Prime could be the Origin from the Metroids, after the Chozo made some Experinces with it. So they are related in some way and the Prime is not only the Source of Phazon, but also of the Metroids.

[@sergiopradosoria3785]

0_0 I think you could be onto something

[@megaplays2748]

Yoooooooo that could be it!

[@SciFiBrony]

I came here just to type a similar theory after watching the video. That the Metroid Prime might've been the "basis" for the Metroid research/experiments/creation that the Chozo conducted on SR-388. So Metroid Prime isn't a Metroid as we traditionally know them, but the Metroids we know could be (extreme) off-shoots of Prime.

[@juliocortez1993]

Your right that could also be a possibility and a great one too

[@R0-83-RT]

That would be a really cool explanation. It is less contrived than a random Metroid stumbling into the leviathan seed.

[@eggburger5978]

Two of my favorite youtubers uploading for the first time in a while within 30 min of each other this is awesome

[@Anu_Sol]

Who is other one?

[@Poker2735]

Ye whom

[@omichillian]

just commenting here to get notified when they say who the other one is

[@RobertSeeJen]

Please let us know :)

[@kraid4208]

Who is

[@LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto]

BTW, the beware Switch HD Remaster Prime is amazing. The controls options makes a world of difference. Either play it with a Gamecube controller with the old controls, or motion sensored like Wii Trilogy, and Dual for modern controllers.

[@DeepFriedOddish]

I remember some Pirate logs that mention Metroid Prime being discovered and at one point stealing and integrating Pirate weapons into its body. It even uses said weaponry in the fight (the missiles it fires, i believe). Not sure how that works out considering the barrier around the Impact Crater, though.

[@xyifer12]

Prime could pass through the barrier at that point.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Those where the original logs But they retconed them, as they make zero sence

[@mitchjames9350]

That is with the NTSC version, the other versions didn’t have that.

[@wytchlexgaming7413]

My personal theory is that phazon, showing its volatility through its impact on space and reality itself, also impacts time itself (relativity and what not). Therefore, if a metroid made its way to Phaaze at any point in time, then Metroid Prime being originally a metroid is more than likely the case.

[@haseaopk]

I'll be honest, when I read the title I thought he was saying that the game metroid prime wasn't a metroid game. Oops

[@aegrajag]

Same

[@rbaron6394]

me too

[@MRtecno98]

s a m e

[@SinisterSaintsExcellion]

Same, could have be slightly avoided if he used "The" Metroid Prime

[@ZulaCrash]

Same

[@Caluben]

I've done A LOT of research into the origins of Dark Samus and Metroid Prime. So here's what happened from everything I've gathered: A Leviathan crashed into Tallon IV and the creature inside that's from Prime 3 was "The Worm". Skip to the timeline of Zero Mission/Prime 1, a Tallon IV Metroid, brought by the Space Pirates, escaped. This wasn't logged because escaped Metroids meant death. The Tallon IV Metroid floated around and ate phazon, mutating itself into a Phazon Metroid. Though never appearing in Prime 1, phazon mutations are unique and doesn't guarantee a certain mutation for Metroids. Remember no Fission nor Hunter Metroids exist in Prime 2/3, doesn't mean they couldn't be there. The now Phazon Metroid, with its unique mutated ability to phase through objects, phased into the Impact Crater and feasted on the phazon inside. It evolved into a Metroid Hopper, which looks very similar to a Metroid Prime. Problem with the new mutation is it's now stuck in the Impact Crater with no way to escape. It kept feasting, eventually evolving into Metroid Prime. Prime then found The Worm, ate it, and thus became both the source of phazon and also the Guardian of the Leviathan. Dark Samus was born with Prime's essence fusing with Samus's Phazon Suit. A mix of genetics of phazon, Metroid, female human, and bird magic. Think just like in Metroid Fusion Samus is part female human, part bird people, part Metroid. So yes, Dark Samus would just eat up SA-X. She even tries to free imprisoned Metroids in Prime 2, because she herself is a Metroid. The dead Metroid Primes around Phazon were Metroids. Phazon Metroid evolved into Hopper evolved in Prime. They're not as large as Dark Samus was because they never ate a Worm. The smaller Primes are dead because Dark Samus killed them all. She was power hungry, wanted complete control, and feared competition. Phazon and the Leviathans were hers and hers alone. Now, the biggest problem with using the American version as canon, there's a logbook that originally states the Space Pirates captured Metroid Prime and gave it weapons, then it escaped containment and went inside the Impact Crater, which is literally impossible as nothing could get past the Chozo barrier. If the Worm was Prime, it had to eventually not only escape the Impact Crater but also get back in YEARS later.

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It’s a puddle of Phazon in the form of a Metroid, and then of Samus.

[@trentwebb521]

If it's not a metroid it's definitely what you said. Based on the ing themselves mimicking the same spider like body. Phazon behaviors and mutant shapshifting yes, I see you and I agree

[@KreshWC]

If Metroid Prime 4 Beyond does include time travel like people are speculating, maybe Sylux goes back in time with the metroid he stole at the end of Federation Force and plants it at the crash site thus setting up all the events of the Prime Series. It could be that the developers are trying to fix that one plot hole with time travel.

[@militantpacifist4087]

Samus is Metroid just like Link is Zelda.

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

That moment when you realize "Metroid" means "Ultimate Warrior" in Chozo, thereby making "Samus is Metroid" technically correct (the best kind of correct).

[@matthewbrodbeck1523]

ZELDA IS PRINCESS!!

[@Darth_Revan770]

I think it make it more official in Metroid Fusion when she is in fussed with Metroid DNA

[@totallyahuman5055]

@@matthewbrodbeck1523 ZELDA IS A BOY AND YOU PLAY AS HIM

[@BigHailFan]

samus IS a metroid.

[@wiffmastermase]

Just gonna post the obvious 'answer' and that is a single metroid managed to consume so much phazon that it mutated into a variant with more potential than any other metroid in the series. After absorbing Samus' DNA it transformed even further into something more akin to 'Sarah Kerrigan'. What I can agree that doesn't make it seem like a Metroid at all is that the only time it tried to absorb anything it had an actual metroid anatomy &/ look to it. It's desire to spread phazon rather than 'DBZ Cell' it's way to it's goals was simply a different kind of absorbsion as a virus instead. Prime/ Dark Samus was more of a Virus now instead of a parasite.

[@clemente5798]

Metroid Prime was a fan of the metroids so he took their name and he was just chilling in his crib the whole time then literally everyone in the galaxy had to come bother him >:(

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

and some metroids were hanging out and desided to help out metroid prime durring phase 2

[@IssueInTheShell]

My theory as to how metroids got into the impact crater is that they were sealed down there by the Chozo. Metroids may not be native to Tallon IV, but that clearly doesn't mean they can't be on the planet...y'know...since they are So it could be that the Chozo sealed metroids inside hoping they would harvest the energy created by the metroid prime in an attempt to slow down the spread of phazon to give their prophesized savior more time This could have sparked a symbiotic relationship between them, as seen by the fission mutation, which was exclusive to the crater in the original

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It sure doesn’t look like any Metroid I’ve ever seen before.

[@brendopls]

(Coming back to this after Remastered) The main thing that makes this confusing is that Metroids spawn from the walls and floors of the impact crater (and the impact crater also resembles a sort of hive), which, if the crater truly is inaccessible to everything, would imply that either those metroids aren't really metroids, or the metroid prime must be related in some way to the metroids. I think my guess is that the chozo based the bioengineering of the metroids we find on SR388 off of what they gathered from the impact crater on Tallon IV. I also think that even if I'm wrong, this is going to be explained in Prime 4.

[@MetroidTrainer]

Despite the North American and Pal version retcon issues, it's a pretty solid idea. I kinda like it more than just saying a metroid snuck into the impact crater

[@TheOrpheon]

Thanks Ed, happy to hear you enjoyed the video. I saw your video on the matter and wont lie that was inspired to share my theory (that ive had as a kid) that I have had for a while

[@crubexzero9283]

I can’t prove it as I no longer have my original copy, but I remember a log that the pirates talked about an experiment they had that seemed to absorb their technology into itself. They never named it directly and it’s near the fight with the Omega pirate, but I always thought they were teasing Metroid Prime. After it escaped, it simply jellyfished through whatever cracks in the seal the phazon was escaping from. But this tech absorption would explain its armored form as well as its inclination to consume and fuse with the Phazon Suit from Samus.

[@nathantylersturgill]

Here's a theory, Metroid Prime was the original metroid, and the Chozo created the more controllable Metroids using it's DNA but modifying it.

[@mitchjames9350]

The problem is how did it end up in the crater and why wasn’t there more like it? A better explanation would be the Chozo used a Metroid in order to stop the spread by having it absorb the leviathans life force but due to Phazon mutated the Metroid and it gained the ability to absorb DNA. The mutated Metroid absorbed the Leviathans dna and replaced it as the source of Phazon. This will also explain how it has a face resembling a Chozo as it could of shortly after absorbed a nearby Chozo. The Chozo than sealed this mutated Metroid to contain the spread and waited will Sami’s the warrior from there visions to arrive and finish what they started.

[@jackiesimplejake]

​@@mitchjames9350Thats actually an awesome theory. Most people go with the theory that a phazon metroid phased through the walls to get inside the leviathan. However no one ever thought maybe the Metroid made its way in before the leviathan was sealed. In fact the chozo don't even need to be directly involved, a tallon metroid in chozo captivity could have easily escaped and made its way into the cotr before the chozo sealed it off

[@clydefrosch]

metroid is an apex hunter/predator/warrior in chozo culture and the metroid prime does tick off those boxes and it just happens to be able to also create the creature previously called metroids

[@MrSecap]

What if the Metroid were Bioengineered in Talon IV, and then the final products were transported to SR388, so when the Leviatan crassehd, there were some metroid DNA samples, wich the worm used to become Metroid Prime

[@canmuller3437]

Maybe the Metroids were based on Metroid Prime, thus making it their origin. This way the name Metroid PRIME would make more sense.

[@F0ulimm]

@@canmuller3437 Interesting, but the Chozo doesn't talked about Metroids at all.

[@svagglaorde4387]

Could be another faction of Chozo that made those Metroids.

[@LittleAl016]

@@svagglaorde4387 It was. The group of Chozo that Old Bird and Grey Voice were a part of were separate from the group of their brethren that settled on Tallon IV.

[@mitchjames9350]

@@canmuller3437 yet how did it come to be? Better option would be the Chozo used a Metoird to kill the leviathan by absorbing its life force to stop the spread. The leviathan being the source of Phazon on Tallon IV and full of Phazon corrupted it when the Metroid latched on and mutated the Metroid to where it can absorb dna resulting it absorbing in the leviathans dna and replacing it as the source of Phazon. Also to explain why it has a face like a Chozo it shortly after absorbed a Chozo and it’s dna.

[@myleswelnetz6700]

Metroids were created by the Chozo to combat the X parasites on planet SR388, but they also somehow found their way to Tallon 4. The Metroid Prime doesn’t look like anything from SR388.

[@andrewplessas3516]

i always just thought a metroid evolved to become metroid prime, and took over a crab like creatures body. and then took over samus' "shell" to become dark samus. At the end you even fight the squishy evolved metroid prime squid thing.

[@Mannwhich]

They weren't originally engineered by the Chozo with metamorphosis in mind. Aeion energy initially is what caused them to mutate and become feral on their native world. Metroid Prime / Dark Samus could simply be a case of mistaken identity. Cool in concept, but story wise makes little sense. Is it a metroid, or would it be more appropriate to simply call it, "That Thing" ?

[@myleswelnetz6700]

Whatever it is, if the Chozo wanted it to live, they wouldn’t have created Samus!

[@ShawndaPrawn]

Here's an extra tidbit for your theory: It was the Space Pirates who named it Metroid Prime. The Chozo called it 'the Worm.' How it even left the Impact Crater long enough for the Pirates to capture, study and augment it before it escaped and went back is beyond me though. Perhaps the Chozo's containment measures were less effective than they hoped and Metroid Prime could have always left the Leviathan any time it pleased, but stayed because that was where the Phazon was.

[@mitchjames9350]

When does it state the Space Pirates outside of the NTSC version called it Metroid Prime.

[@isuperyoshix]

I think they may try to retcon metroid prime and phazon into being a failed and abandoned Mawkin experiment that went out of control. Just an idea, but could make an interesting story in prime 4.

[@raizen21ss56]

I do not believe prime came from phaaze. Every leviathan ends up corrupting and choosing a single creature to be it's guardian. Brryo leviathan corrupted the native mogenar, Elysia took the chozo robot, helios, and the pirate homework leviathan claimed ridley. Tallon IV claimed a Tallon metroid which I believe to be female mainly cause dark Samus is referred to as she, metroid prime is dark Samus, and metroid prime can give birth to metroids

[@alejandrolopezmacip272]

In the end as always: Bird magic v:

[@DKforever24]

The problem with this theory is that the Chozo lores call Metroid Prime "The Worm", so while your explanation of the word Metroid meaning "ultimate warrior" is nice, it conflicts with the Lore. There is a different theory that MP is a Hopper Metroid (from Prime 3 Corruption) that grew up into what we see in the game, but the problem with that theory is that it assumes Metroids existed on planet Phaaze before the Leviathan was sent to Tallon IV. In Samus Returns, the lore says that the Chozo who lived on SR388 genetically engineered the metroids to combat the X. The problem here is that its basically impossible to genetically engineer an entire species from scratch, so they had to have used an either a living or extinct (or multiple) species as a template to create them. This would now imply that the Metroids are a far older species than we know. Combine this with my personal theory that Phazon itself is sentient if gathered in a sufficient quantity, Phazons highly mutagenic properties, some Space Pirate tech, and some time to let it simmer in the pot, and when its done, you've got yourself a Metroid Prime.

[@ghostl3]

Your one of my favorite creators and is the only reasons I played super metroid, zero mission and fusion, which are now some of my favorite games. Thank you!

[@ghostl3]

Also shot in the dark theory's about how the metroids could have gotten into the crater after it was sealed; maybe they were already there or, maybe the metroid prime could be creating metroids and/or metroid eggs which could be another reason it's called the metroid prime It might not be a metroid but it can create them.

[@TheOrpheon]

I am honored to be one of your favorite creators and extremely happy I was able to get you into the Metroid series that I love so much. Thanks for watching, the support and I hope you enjoy the future videos

[@ohmygardner]

Watching this Video got me another couple of Ideas! 1. What if the Chozo of Tallon IV had some Metroids of their own? The Chozo were known to exchange their technology and knowledge with other species, so it wouldn't be too far fetched, to assume, that Chozo of different planets exchanged their creations.Tallon IVs Chozo could've tried to fight the cause of Phazon with their own "ultimate warrior", before sealing the Crater. There's no Chozo Scripts backing that idea up, but it would explain why there's Metroids in the Impact Crater. That would of course mean, that their plan had backfired, just like the creation of metroids had backfired in the first place, as Metroid Prime aka "the worm" learned to control/create them as seen in phase 2 of the battle. Spinning that idea even further (even further from anything backing these ideas up), Metroid Prime could thus be a Metroid absorbing the original "worm" or the "worm" absorbing a metroid - the backfiring would be even worse. Chozo are known for doing things that work against their favor. 2. What if the Chozo didn't create Metroids from scratch, but based it on another creature - the larval form of Metroid Prime. Makes even less sense, no Scripts to back that idea up, but that would make "the worm" the basis of metroids, thus tying it into the family of metroids - and it would be a plausible/causable reason why MP can create/control metroids. As Prime can take on the meaning of "the first", the name "Metroid Prime" would then imply, that it's the "first" metroid. The base larval form of MP could've been a rather harmless, innocent being, with the capability of absorbing energy - unless mutated by Chozo (regular Metroids), or Phazon (Metroid Prime). Both theories are not backed up at all by the games or lore, and they require a lot of assumptions... but they could at least explain why Metroid Prime has a connection to the 'regular metroids', that the Chozo created. Let's see if MP4 will answer some of our questions - or adress none of them.

[@saturn6784]

I thought the version that promptly imploded looked a lot like a Metroid, with orb-brain things and lots of gelatinous tendrils

[@EmeraldEdge72]

There are logs that state that the pirates were able to reach metroid prime inside the impact crater and that the creature itself attacked them and assimilated many of their weapons and defenses. They could not defeat it, but instead used/manipulated it for the source of phazon. You can assume that they somehow got in contact of metroids and did similar things. Much like the Gravemind or flood in halo it reaches a point to where the creature can just warp, change and construct itself into anything that it has assimilated or needs to be in the moment to protect itself or deal with a threat. This is further backed up in metroid prime 3 where you encounter Ing-lings as they had already been assimilated from Dark Aether in metroid prime 2 echoes. Also like how a story says an entire species was wiped out it could be true unless the writer makes it so. In mass effect we met Javik last prothean, in halo 4 we met Didact. I am somewhat of a writer so I am very skilled in these things, so when someone says they are the last of their kind I never believe it until I have proof as that can be a false narrative tool. Just because a door is sealed like how the chozo said they sealed it with the temple doesn't mean there wont be cracks in their defenses. The pirates most likely found some way to get to the core as stated in their logs upon finding the creature. I am going to say while I like that all of us fans are reading into this and trying our best to follow and establish proper canon this is one of those things that you are all reading into far too much or just missing the finer details. Also Nintendo themselves doesn't always know what the hell they're doing so I usually look to the fans, but at times even they get confused. One thing I'd like to state is that Ridley can't die, he can be defeated but he can't die. It has been years since I read the thing but somewhere he said that his cells fed on the dead cells of other dead beings. This makes him like Cell from dragonball Z. Making a story is like putting together a working engine and at times requires considerable mental fortitude as well as the ability to think for others and other characters. It literally is layers upon layers upon layers upon layers upon layers of information. Like metroid games where you are the mouse in the maze! I welcome any questions that are story related, but for the time being I have to get back to work.

[@anwenlokier2292]

Im not counting um "it" as a metroid the bastard was not made by the chozo

[@kenji6492]

With the Metroid Suit in Dread being designed to evoke Dark Samus, I think it’s safe to say Metroid Prime is a Metroid. It likely escaped from a Space Pirate lab, squeezed into the crater somehow and consumed the Leviathan, also absorbing Chozo artifacts present at the crash site which created its weapon systems.

[@Howellatthemoon25]

*insert oh yeah mr krabs meme*

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It’s a worm in an apple or a rotting book.

[@rosebarrett1267]

I should do a full scan run of trilogy then, I’ve only done full scan runs of the ntsc version, I had no idea scans were different. Great video! I absolutely agree with your theory and had similar ideas cooking in my head for years. I always assumed the metroids just kinda showed up into the core when the space pirates did, then realized the space pirates never got into the core. Maybe they just went up to the crater and asked nicely and prime just opened the door for the metroids, much to the disdain of the pirates.

[@TheOrpheon]

Yeah neither did I until much later when I wanted to read everything to have a basic knowledge before making videos for the channel

[@jamespeterson1630]

There's one main gripe with this theory I have. Metroid Prime literally can spawn other Metroids in the final phase of the boss fight with it.

[@Rydax]

I have a thought. However, it's been ages since I played Metroid Prime, and even then, I didn't have a fantastic grasp of the lore at the time. I never finished Metroid Prime 2, and so, I never got around to playing the third. So this is based just on what I do remember and the information presented in this video. Let me know if there's anything I'm missing that might conflict. That said, I wonder if it's possible you're reversing the order of events. Rather than trying to figure out how the Metroid Prime ended up in the crater after the Metroids were created by the Chozo on SR388, what if the Metroid Prime is the origin of the Metroids were know and love? You stated that the Chozo foresaw the arrival of the meteorite which contained the creature, and they built the facility to keep it there. The Chozo, being the inquisitive, scientific-minded birds we know they are, probably went about studying it, and it is there that they found the answer to their X problem. Upon discovering whatever properties the creature had, I think it's possible they used samples of its DNA, which they then took to their lab on SR388, to create their parasite-hunting weapon, the Metroids. Only this was a version of the ultimate warrior that they could control. The Chozo may have even brought their knowledge back to Talon IV to experiment on the original specimen, to see if they could develop a way to control that too. This manipulation may have resulted in the Prime's ability to spawn the engineered versions of the Metroids. So in this way, the Metroids we know originated on SR388, but it also explains how they, and the Prime, ended up on Talon IV, all wrapped up in a neat, little bow. Unless, of course, I'm missing something big, and you can let me know what that is.

[@mitchjames9350]

How did it end up on the planet and there are only one of them? It’s said in the scans in the first game that it’s a mutated Metroid from Phazon exposure. Also Phazon originated from a planet that sends Levithans that spread the Phazon. More likely the Chozo used a Metroid to absorb the leviathans life force in the hopes it would stop the spread by killing it but due to Phazon exposure the Metroid mutated and gained the ability to absorb dna. The Metroid absorbed the leviathans dna and replaced it as the source of Phazon and to explain why it has a face that resembles a Chozo absorbed a Chozo shortly after.

[@anastaziuskaejatidarjan4711]

One big thing that you didn't consider is the fact that in the actual room on Phaaze where you kill the baby leviathan, there are metroids constantly coming at you. Metroids not only exist on phaaze, but exist abundantly.

[@TheOrpheon]

Well the Metroids on Phaaze were brought there by Dark Samus and her Pirate Armada. Due to the high radiation, it allowed them to easily reproduce on the surface

[@anastaziuskaejatidarjan4711]

@@TheOrpheon Are you sure? Why would she bring them? I'm sure you did a video on this that I haven't seen yet or something.

[@AltairEgo1]

How could the pirates realistically enter the atmosphere without PED suits? They'd be vaporized.

[@wolfgod6443]

Just a quick PAL version tidbit: The "crab" form is an amalgamation of Pirate technology the metroid prime gathered around itself, not its natural exoskeleton. I believe the pirates knew about the creature and attempted to weaponize it, only for it to absorb their tech and become nearly unstoppable. It's also worth mentioning that Prime summons metroids in the 2nd phase.

[@BlueAmpharos]

What about the Metroid-Prime-like shed skin he pointed out in Metroid Prime 3? Also the space pirate encounter creates a huge plot hole because the space pirates were trying to breech the impact crater for a long time, you can see a massive area around the impact crater visible through some containment field from the phazon mines and I remember them making a big deal about not being able to get into the impact crater. Samus still needed all the artifact keys to get in there and there didn't appear to be any other entrance from underneath when viewed from the phazon mines, so did Metroid Prime somehow reseal the impact crater that the Chozo sealed it inside and then trap itself again? It doesn't make sense.

[@wolfgod6443]

​@@BlueAmpharos The shell can be explained in a few ways. 1) It's just a reference as you are about to fight Dark Samus (a.k.a. Metroid Prime herself). 2) Space Pirates are guarding the planet and their tech could be compacted into a similar form ideal to phazon, or 3) It is trying to create a new Metroid Prime...And it is, you're corrupted and can become a second Dark Samus, and they've got your stuff ready. Leviathan seeds make the strongest creature on the planet defend their core directly. If it was sealed this whole time, how does something from the planet enter to guard it? Why was phazon outside the impact crater? It seems like the containment was a complete failure and maybe helped the seed grow in safety. There is clearly some sort of leakage regardless. Space Pirates brought metroids to the planet, they experimented with phazon using said metroids. Metroid Prime, the title character, was the strongest and chosen guardian. I don't know if it stole or was given pirate technology, but regardless that's where it comes from. If nothing else, perhaps the biggest question is, where is the core guardian? Every other leviathan seed has one taken from the planet it lands on. If Prime is an evolved core, where is the guardian?

[@BlueAmpharos]

@@wolfgod6443 On further examination on the situation it seems the space pirates in future iterations of Metroid Prime never actually encountered the creature directly, as Retro Studios recognized that as a plot hole and retconned it. In the PAL version and Metroid Prime trilogy they use scan data to determine a creature inside the impact crater consuming phazon, which gives them two reasons to want to breech it but are unable to. This does give a new plot hole though however with "how does it have the space pirate technology?" then but Metroid Prime 3 answers this question with an exoskeleton suggesting Metroid Prime isn't the only one of its kind. How it can spawn metroids though, I have no idea. The more I think about it the more the theory of a phase metroid phasing through outside of its containment tank into the impact crater and merging with the core becomes plausible since the space pirates have had metroid specimens go missing in the past from their data logs.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

That's no longer cannon Those are from the original version of the game, and where later removed

[@Metroidkalib]

I know this video is 2 years old but yes, Metroid Prime IS a Metroid. Specifically it's a Metroid that was able to phase through the security of the temple. It then proceeded to feed on so much Phazon that it mutated and evolved into what would become Metroid Prime.

[@gerardoafw228]

What if they sent the Metroid to fight The Worm and then the Metroid took its place from the corruption? Maybe a little far fetch, dunno. Either way awesome video! I didn't know about the corpses in Phaaze because THOSE DAMN BASTARDS KEPT ATTACKING ME! LOL

[@mitchjames9350]

It’s not far fetch, it makes perfect sense. The Phazon mutating it and allowing the Metroid to absorb dna would explain a lot as to how it replaced the levitation as the source and it could explain why it has a face like a chozon as it could of absorbed one shortly after.

[@crabohato4954]

You kinda glossed over the existence of Hopping Metroids, which just look like smaller versions of Metroid Prime. Now, this may be a bit of a wild idea, but what if a Phazon Metroid not only phased itself inside the Impact Crater, but also somehow "bonded" and became one with a Phazon Core inside the Tallon meteor

[@mkcstealth7624]

My two cents: I think all of this is possible, but I believe it could be revealed later on that maybe something else brought the Metroids to Phaaze over Dark Samus and the Pirates, and the Federation and Samus only assume they brought them to Phaaze. We can see Metroids in Prime 3 mutate and evolve into Hopping Metroids which looks vastly different. It's possible something in the distant past brought the Metroids to Phaaze. Hell, maybe they can even tie it back to Raven Beak or some other malevolent Chozo out there.

[@jawstrock2215]

Depending on when they made the Metroid vs the asteroid crashing on Tallon IV. I thought they might have tried using the metroids to fight the Prime at first, and only sealed it after they saw it was not only failing, but the Metroid were mutating inside.

[@mitchjames9350]

Prime refers to the Metroid mutated by Phazon, it would make sense a metroid used by the Chozo to kill the leviathan by absorbing its life force only for it get mutated by the leviathans phazon and be able to absorb dna. This would explain how it became the source of Phazon as it absorbed the leviathans dna and replaced it. Also to explain why it has a face similar to a Chozo it could of absorbed a Chozo shortly after.

[@mitchjames9350]

To me I reckon the Chozo tried using a Metroid to drain the life force of the Phazon leviathan and it end up absorbing its dna through a mutation that occurred due to exposure to Phazon. And to explain why Metroid Prime has a face the Metroid had attacked a Chozo shortly after and also absorbed its dna.

[@camb06]

Since Metroid breaking containment is such a widely used trope in the series, and especially in Metroid Prime, I always figured that the pirates mining so close to the Chozo containment field gave some Metroids a chance to explore beyond what the pirates were aware of. There are many mishaps logged by the pirates, and I think one or two mention Metroids escaping, but not being recovered. With the way Metroids interact with different energies, it could be that a determined Metroid could pass through the Chozo barrier from a forgotten Pirate mineshaft or creature tunnel. I agree with Orpheon’s findings however, that Metroid Prime is not a Metroid. There just are Metroids in the sealed chambers.

[@adambrooks822]

Maybe planet Phaze is the origin of the metroid, and the Chozo used the leviathan worms as a base to engineer the metroids we know today. The new metroids that specifically have an ice weakness and no longer produce toxic radioactive material.

[@eddieram435]

The Metroid Prime went through all bio phases (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Omega) before further evolving into Prime. The chaotic nature of the phazon core is what caused further mutation. That's why the creature is located at the Infusion Chamber rather than in other places of Leviathan Phazon Core (stellar object) mentioned in the local Chozo Lore. A Space Pirate expedition team was the one who found it and thus labeling it (Metroid Prime). From the lore, it has been said this creature is not endemic to Tallon 4, but was either brought by the Pirates (possibly even escaped) and found it's way to the Impact Crater location. Access to the Impact Crater was blocked by the Chozo Cradle temple, which prompted the Space Pirates to find alternates routes via mining operations (Phazon Mines) to find a path that can be carved through the planet's crust to find access to the Phazon Infusion Chamber via the Mines. Other theory says the creature came with the stellar object meaning the planet Phazee has the capability of critical thinking by forcing local lifeforms to be ejected when Leviathan meteors are launched into the cosmos.

[@Sketch_XR]

Agreed, Prime isn't a member of the Metroid species. There's just a few points that I think should be added due to lore that could answer a few questions or clear up somethings: 1. I believe there is a log book entry/ Pirate data which states that Metroid Prime actually ate the core of the Leviathan on Tallon IV, which would imply IT was supposed to be the infant's guardian, but instead absorbed it's power, likely after being locked away by the Chozo with the Great Temple. 2. Pirate data also says the pirates mined into the Impact Crater and discovered Prime before the game began, and equipped it with weaponry to try and control it. However, Prime was able to escape the Pirates and make its way back to the Crater. To do so, it would have had to break through a lot of Pirate security, and burrow it's way out of the Mines. So it stands to reason that some Fission Metroid escaped too, following Prime's path of destruction back into the Crater.

[@Stormandreas]

I like the theory that a metroid had transformed onto a Phazon Metroid and phased through the Cradle and eventually transformed into a Hopper Metroid, thus getting trapped inside, and further mutated into Metroid Prime after absorbing the Leviathan Core (and thus being able to generate phazon) It's not that far fetched to think the Chozo on Talon may have a few metroids as pets (which the Chozo DID have)

[@Doughnuts]

Maybe, when first discovering the "worm" the Chozos on Tallen IV brought over Metroids to try and attack the creature, and when that didn't work, they sealed the Impact Crater. Explains why Metroids are found in there. And could lead to Metroid Prime actually being a Metroid. Maybe it mutated enough to beat the leviathan, but, eh.

[@LosN209]

0:57 Oh God.. may history not repeat itself with Switch.

[@TheOrpheon]

Well for a moment it kinda did

[@ShadeMeadows]

So... What if the Metroid Prime was the inspiration FOR the Metroids? thus the name "Prime"? They got the inspiration by studyin' the "Worm" that crash landed, and then created a creature to save 'em from a crisis (The X-parasite)

[@mitchjames9350]

That makes no sense also it’s stated the worm was born from the metroids hence a Phazon mutated Metroid.

[@Artik_RSAATS_H]

My idea for why there are metroids in the impact crater is that, since the chozo are the ones engineering the metroids, and the metroid prime assimilated chozo tech to form its armor, it must've assimilated some of the machines used in the process of creating metroids. The Chozo weren't actually manufacturing metroids on Tallon though, and I don't really have a solution for that part

[@justingoble4980]

The "Ultimate Warrior" thing is incredibly fascinating. Really enjoyed your video

[@rocketmidbus6297]

What if... The Chozo went to Phaze and made experiments with the phazon using the metroids, but Phaze radiated so much Phazon that the metroids overmutaded, killed the Chozos in Phaze and one of those metroids entered a leviathan meteor and mutaded into the metroid prime?

[@Poker2735]

YES!!! Yet another new video. Good to see you yet again Orpheon

[@TheOrpheon]

I am already working on the new videos, hope you look forward to them

[@THEBEEGMAN]

Since Metroid translates to ultimate warrior in Chozo, re reading the titles of Metroid games is very interesting. Ultimate warrior could mean Samus herself. It really fits when re reading Metroid Dread's tilte as Ultimate Warrior Dread. It implies that even Samus isn't safe against the deadly EMMI. Whether the designers intended this is unknown, I think it's Nintendo knew what they were doing.

[@ArynBendah]

Looking back at 1986's rendition of Metroid, it does, indeed, make sense. On that same note, does that mean the WWE star is a Metroid?

[@MrHydra12]

She’s definitely an X cell that’s been mutated, it’s how she was able to mimic you from ripping off your phazon suit. It must have first come in contact with a prime Metroid It’s also able to explain how it was able to steal and over clock the space pirate gear and use it against you in the first game

[@MrHydra12]

Let’s not forget her unnatural resistance to ice compared to the rest of “her species” when it’s supposed to be the Metroids only weakness

[@MrHydra12]

OH and you asked how metroids (fission and ALSO IMMUNE TO ICE MOSTLY) got inside? The room where we fight Metroid prime gives it away; they were laid and hatched

[@tomdeneen4880]

My head cannon has always been that "the worm" is indeed the leviathan core. However it either corrupted or consumed a metroid from the pirates to take on its more durable form. So for me the reason there are Metroid Prime-like shells on Phaaze is that Dark Samus still is the Metroid Prime, again in another new form that it stole. So my guess is if she is directing phaaze that maybe her genetics are influencing it.

[@gatzdrummer]

The are logs in the game that outright tell you the pirates had contact/experimentation with Metroid Prime. I'd say they found their way into the impact crater and had been experimenting with Metroids before you got there or while you were going through the rest of the game.

[@mitchjames9350]

In the NTSC version, also how come in the logs it states they can’t penetrate the barrier.

[@BMW-sd6nn]

Alright hear me out. Let's say the Tallon 4 chozo are one of the oldest colonies, the leviathan lands, Metroid prime is inside. Later on a few Chozo leave Tallon 4 to explore, find Sr 388 and use the Metroid Prime as a blueprint genetically for the metroids. Thus coming full circle, it is the first Metroid. Idk maybe.

[@Jormungrandrserpent]

In the game manual, it mentions the space pirates did mining for phazon, whos to say they didn't mine into the impact crater and saw all the red phazon and thought "I wonder what this will do the metroids?".

[@miceltusav88]

I figured the Metroid Prime was like, a proto metroid. One that was the first, but because of its dangers it was re named and sealed away

[@ZiggyZ3]

Why is it called prime then? Is it referring to being the first of its kind? I thought the idea was that it was an enhanced metroid called “prime” because it’s better.

[@Chaos89P]

If I remember correctly, the Metroid Prime Trilogy bio for Metroids in Tallon IV, said that they are, somehow a native species. They're called "Tallon Metroids."

[@TheOrpheon]

Yes because they were born on Tallon IV, BUT those Metroids were born from the ones that were native to SR-388 that were brought to Tallon through the Frigate Orpheon, as I said in my video. It like saying that I was born on Tallon IV because my parents from SR-388 were taken there

[@epictetushasepictiddiez2615]

There was a peice of space pirate lore that was for some reason deleted from the trilogy version and in it, the space pirates explained that a mutated metroid escaped its confines. I like to think that somehow the metroid got into the impact crator and found the leviathan then mutated with it via phazon. Which would also explain why fission metroids are there, and why metroid prime can spawn metroids. I cant really find out how the damn metroid would be able to get inside impact crator though

[@Insurrector-jb3jb]

I speculated the barrier only blocked phazon or anything corrupted by it, hence how someone installed a save station in the impact crater while it still blocked the corruption from spreading.

[@aecholapis]

I'm not sure, if anyone will actually read this, but I really appreciate how much effort you guys put into your videos. They are informative, well edited and really nice to watch after an eventful (or boring) day. I just ordered four of your stickers (maybe one day I'll get myself some shirts or hoodies or a bunch of mugs) and I would like to thank you for sticking with us and providing us with wonderful content!

[@Jazzman4824]

I’ve always considered the Metroid primes to be a subspecies that was native to phase. Like how a bunch of the other species we find in the Metroid series have variations on every planet. So where the regular Metroid metamorphose through omega, the phazon preferred ones transition through prime. And can either become the worm like creatures or the leviathan like creatures, either through phaeton exposure quantities or perhaps a male/female variation. Or just a divergence at a specific point in metamorphosis

[@littlemonster7917]

other idea: The metroid found some phazon, ate it, turned into a phazon metroid, wanted more, entered the leviathan seed, ate a bunch of the phazon and absorbed the energy from the leviathan, became the Metroid Prime, [some blank spot of text about how the Metroid Prime got the exoskeleton, that I don't have an explanation for], and then couldn't leave

[@johnnydarling8021]

Everyone is entitled to their own theories, however I also want to point out that Retro really wasn’t too concerned with the established lore and largely let Nintendo try to correct it retroactively, even its place in the timeline. I also think it is also important to point out that a significant amount of Metroid’s elements were lifted from the Alien movies, which never stopped introducing new types of Xenomorphs and their mutations. Interesting video and theory nonetheless, especially the part that the creature was stated as being in the meteor that crashed and the origin of all the Phazon. But considering that it was able to fuse with Samus’s Phazon suit to become Dark Samus, already tells us that whatever this creature is, it has that ability. My theory is that the meteor creature fused with one of the metroids corrupted by its Phazon, like the ones we see in the Impact Site under the Temple, and gained some of their traits (like looking like a floating blue space octopus in its true form) as well as evolving an exoskeleton (like the metroids we see in Samus Returns) albeit in a more spider-crab like form. I think the fact that it transformed into Dark Samus, and inherited her traits, supports this theory, and also fits nicely into the theme, since Samus also becomes part Metroid later on in Fusion and Dread.

[@alejandrolopezmacip272]

How do i miss this? KZbin never notice me and its the video i been waiting for so long, great video by the way, i really enjoy your videos and how you putt your love for the freanchise

[@TheOrpheon]

Thanks, sadly KZbin's algorithm keeps changing and now I believe they just recommend you videos similar to what you recently watched instead of whats in your sub-box. Regardless I am happy to entertain you once more

[@MellorineKnight]

I got some Kingdom Hearts flashbacks... after like 8 games, I'm still not 100% sure what a kingdom hearts is.

[@RealJustinReed]

My personal theory is that the force field wasn't completed until after Metroid Prime escaped the Space Pirates. Some of the Chozo Lore found throughout the game was actually written by Chozo Ghosts who hadn't "turned," and they were also the ones who finished the Cradle and got the force field fully operational. This is based on a few facts I've gathered from the Chozo Lore. 1. Some of the Chozo Lore mentions the Space Pirates arriving on Tallon IV, meaning it was written after the Chozo were gone. 2. Lore that mentions Samus states that they didn't know whether they were witnessing past or future events, meaning that the timeline is unclear. They could have been watching her, and other events in real time as ghosts.