This is Why you Need More Reverb: Early-Chain Reverb VS End-Of-Chain Reverb (Stereo-Use headphones)

This video has sonic elements in stereo. So please wear headphones or use a proper monitor system to get the full experience
In this episode of Tonal Teamwork, we’re gonna be looking at the difference between an early chain reverb and an end of chain reverb and why you need both in your setup. It’s always good to have an excuse to add more reverb to your setup, right!? Right!
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Gear used:
Jennings Navigator
Tonfuchs Bulldog
Squier J.Mascis Jazzmaster
Pedals used:
Meris Mercury7 - thepedalzone.com/mercury7/
Old Blood Noise Endeavors Dark Star V2 - thepedalzone.com/dark-star/
Old Blood Noise Endeavors Procession V2 - thepedalzone.com/procession/
Old Blood Noise Endeavors Whitecap Tremolo - thepedalzone.com/whitecap/
EarthQuaker Devices Levitation
EarthQuaker Devices Afterneath V3 - thepedalzone.com/afterneath-v3/
EarthQuaker Devices Westwood - thepedalzone.com/westwood/
EarthQuaker Devices Aqueduct - thepedalzone.com/aqueduct/
EarthQuaker Devices Grand Orbiter - thepedalzone.com/grand-orbiter/
KMA Audio Machines Cirrus - thepedalzone.com/cirrus/
KMA Audio Machines Wurm Distortion - thepedalzone.com/wurm-2/
Mission Engineering VM-PRO - thepedalzone.com/vm-pro-bk/
Peterson StroboStomp HD - thepedalzone.com/strobostomp-hd/
SoldiGoldFX Counter Current
Chase Bliss Audio Thermae Delay/Pitch-Shifter
Chase Bliss Audio Dark World Reverb
Amps used:
REVV D20 and ENGL 112 cab mic'd with an Aston Stealth
Fender Deluxe Reverb 65 RI mic'd with an Aston Spirit

[@jburdsinfuse]

This video assumes we all have multiple reverbs and effect pedals just laying around. And you would be correct.

[@thepedalzone]

Yay! Reverb!

[@paulborovay]

Such a great/funny comment :) because it’s so true

[@Wilbafarce]

😂

[@Wilbafarce]

😂

[@aangtonio5570]

I have both the MS-50G and the MS-70CDR. Done! 😎👌

[@CastToVoid]

ThePedalZone: "This is Why you Need More Reverb" Me: "Awesome! An enabler!"

[@theoryofthrash]

Sums up guitar related youtube content perfectly

[@lofijunky]

So true. I wouldn’t have it any other way

[@ericlayton8888]

A big sounding spring reverb into a compressor into a Big Muff sounds absolutely HUGE - compressor adds even more sustain to the reverb trails, added to even more by the Muff, which also distorts the trails and disguises the reverb as fuzzed out extra long sustain

[@DeusExAurum]

Finally somebody advocating putting Verb infront of distortion! Beautiful shoegaze sounds

[@thepedalzone]

Happy you enjoyed that sound. I love how the trails of the reverb gets more grainy from it.

[@thepedalzone]

It's good to be back, gang! I took some time to work on a video topic that I'm really stoked about. The magic you can achieve by running both a reverb at the front and the end of your signal chain. I hope you learn something from this video, or you at least enjoy the compositions in there. If you do, then please consider leaving a like, comment or share the video with your partners in tone. Endless gratitude to you all - Stefan

[@jonaseggen2230]

One thing that can be fun with a "boring" analogue synth is to put a reverb before distortion. So maybe put another reverb after that again? Yes, I'll try.

[@satherp5]

@ThePedalZone awesome video. I’ve come back to watch this a few times. Question: would you say there are any options for people that want an early chain reverb to do well in both categories “1 sustainer” and “2 shoegazer”? Need something for sustained modulation as well as that wall of heavy dirt that also adds sustain. Thanks again for the great demo videos and all the knowledge. Best pedal demo channel on KZbin.

[@thepedalzone]

@@satherp5 - Cheers! Really happy you liked the video. And yes, the answer to both of your needs is the EQD Afterneath. It's amazing for both tasks :)

[@jonaseggen2230]

@@satherp5 I put a comment here so I get notified on any reply to this.

[@jordandangelo180]

Hey bro! Just picked up the new CXM Chase Bliss - Meris CXM 1978 reverb collab and it made me think of you. I’ll check to see if you put out of demo for it yet but if you haven’t you should. If there was ever a reverb pedal made for your style of playing, it’s the CXM.

[@TheVolthause]

Before: I'm finally done with my pedalboard. I don't need any more pedals. After: WELL I GUESS I NEED ANOTHER REVERB NOW. Serious cool video. I never knew how to create some of those textures.

[@thepedalzone]

Haha! Raaaad! I'm honored that you found the video inspiring 🙏

[@victormotsekgaladua3178]

Just when I thought I am done with buying more pedals... ouch there is one more... guess the pedal will be 1 metre by 1 metre... Good enlightenment.

[@orryfishburne5326]

Hahahha. I was just thinking the same thing.

[@c0unterac342]

Same here

[@markferguson3745]

You'll be much happier if you abandon the concept of " done", or " finished".

[@JD15172]

Dude your videos have inspired me to take a completely different approach to my playing. I think my favorite pedal reviewer out there.

[@flaminx0r]

I come back to this video every few months. Usually when I'm curious about something reverb related and then I usually stay to listen to the whole showcase 😅

[@thepedalzone]

I'm super honored to hear that. Thank you for sticking around 😊

[@KodyXXVll]

out of the literal thousands of guitar effects and pedal videos i've watched over the past two decades.....this was one of the coolest, most interesting, varied, informative, fun, inspiring, and efficient videos I've ever seen. amazing

[@laydownmisere3674]

Stefan, another thing that makes this video so good is that a lot of us already have a substantial collection of pedals and are trying to wean ourselves off bad cases of GAS. This video, which highlights great use of existing pedals and is not simply a demo of the next "must have" pedals, breathes life into what we already have on our boards by providing inspiration to try new combinations of old favourites. I am not aware of anyone else doing this and I hope you find an expanded audience due to your efforts.

[@buckdancer421]

I've always kept 'verb strictly at the end of my chain. Was really cool to hear all these different tones, great as always man!

[@thepedalzone]

Happy to hear the video was able to give you a new perspective on how to use reverb :)

[@plaintigergrrr8496]

Don’t forget about reverse reverb full wet for that MBV glide 😎 cool vid !

[@thepedalzone]

Indeed! Reverse reverb is fun. Just used it in my Keeley Loomer demo

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

This guy is my new favorite pedal guy. He's not only knowledgeable, he's also got a great vibe amd personality.

[@thepedalzone]

Awwww, man! Thank you so much! Really means the world to me ❤

[@m3andzoloft]

I didn't realize I needed a new distortion pedal, but that KMA Wurm has me feeling things. So powerful!

[@thepedalzone]

It’s so insanely good! I’m excited to hear you enjoyed the sound. I think it’s a very underrated and versatile dirt box

[@PhoenixGuitars]

At first I was thinking oh boy... He just really likes reverb... But once you hit the early chain I immediately realized the usefulness and beauty of your point. Your playing of course illustrates it best. Rock on brother and thanks for your passion!

[@silvioschmidt5346]

I think this is the most educational video on pedals I have ever watched.

[@thepedalzone]

Wow! That makes me so happy to hear ❤

[@MrSnakejaw]

Great stuff as always Stefan! Thank you for doing what you do!

[@thisguy2973]

I’ve been a lifelong metalhead and experimental musician. The more I get into pedals, the more my style is changing. I’ve been looking to justify keeping my Avalanche Run while incorporating an additional verb in the chain. Thank you for this!

[@thepedalzone]

I'm happy to hear that the video gave you some new creative ideas to explore. There's always room for more reverb 😊

[@tommyrotts]

Stefan please make a patreon. I wanna throw money at you. You could do a more nerdy breakdown of pedals, showing what knobs you are turning and talk about why/what it is doing. I just got a Hedra and had extreme anxiety trying to figure out all the extra effects. I had to put it away in shame for another day. This happens a lot, so learning more about pedals and what the knobs are doing would be nice for complex pedals, or simpler ones for pedal newcomers. Or you could just put up little 1 minute clips of a pretty riff. It would be really nice to finally have some of your beautiful music. Or put up nothing and let me pay you because I think you're neat. I love what you do, please never stop

[@bobsondugnutt5688]

Great comment, couldn't agree more

[@universalelectricradio2373]

Haha haha....😜

[@FuzzyDancingBear]

Wish I was rich.

[@lordjamon]

This is really true. Stefan could also provide tabs for some of your demos and lots of people would give 5 bucks a month

[@sunlounger29]

Awesome episode, Stefan! Thanks! 👍❤️🚀

[@Oh.No.Brousseau]

Nice to have you back! Now I can just get cozy and enjoy your music!

[@ilgilgg]

Thank you for making me feel less bummed out about all the cool reverb offerings that are NOT available in stereo. Perhaps I can get a dark world after all :)

[@thepedalzone]

There's definitely nothing to be bummed out about when it comes to mono reverbs. They sound absolutely otherworldly huge when fed into a stereo delay or stere reverb. Dark World is really cool and unique, that's for sure.

[@maximiliangreiner1653]

Wow, what a great video! This way of using reverb is actually very inspiring and creative. The playing was beautiful too! Thanks for the brilliant sound quality.

[@kilgoretrout700]

Wow, nicely done my friend. Your enthusiasm is infectious.

[@Haze763]

I could listen to you play all day long. Great demo Stefan.

[@rustyshacklefrench]

I've been waiting for someone to do this video, you nailed it!

[@ThePedalboardOrchestra]

I love reverb and this video is just so inspiring. Thank you, Stefan!

[@marcellopacifici]

Mange tak Stefan, your videos are always very interesting!

[@KitKalvert]

I think this is my best video on the internet. Thank you for sharing your experience knowledge and beautiful sounds mate!

[@SquareWaveSymphonies]

Nothing beats a great 'Tonal-Teamwork'-episode! You inspired me to put my overdrive at the end of my signalchain, which has completely transformed my playing.

[@travisw912]

Excellent explanation of the early reverb. Given me some new ideas. And cool Daughters shirt 🖤

[@brenthoskins8436]

wow this is awesome, right now i only have verb at the end of my board, but i agree with ya, it's the best effect of all. thanks for another amazing and informative video, man!

[@tonycarpenter-Makzimia]

Sounded excellent in my headphones. Thanks for sharing, I've never even thought of putting a before and after reverb inline... goes to show even after 50 years, you can still learn.

[@needlenose_]

I recently found your channel and now I can’t stop watching your videos. It’s like you’re in my head and it’s awesome. It’s also your fault I now own an Afterneath and a Moog expression pedal. Thanks a lot!

[@AlbusBand]

Ahhhhh floating away to the genius of Stefan...this will be a good day. Cheers bro, you’re amazing 😘.

[@mikkokelanen8000]

Oh yay, Tonal Teamwork is back! Not gonna lie, it’s one of my favs of yours my dear good mister.

[@RandomButtonPusher]

Superb demonstration of the variables and their results.

[@Thallishman]

You're videos are always so insightfull, thank you

[@nathaniellarson8]

I love this! I have a HOF on my board that I really don't use and now I will! I already tried it and it opens a whole new dimension. Thanks!

[@TheAmazingSnarf]

another home run, Stefan. thank you for all the effort you're putting into your channel. for those of us still stuck at home, these productions really can open up the rest of the Universe for us when we're sitting there, looking at our music gear and waiting for inspiration to arrive. whenever your productions air, the dust covers come off of my own personal gear, the pedals get powered up, and fun happens. gratitude. p/s: often i'll just close my eyes and listen, and then go back to view afterwards. the Procession Tremolo at 8:33 startled me so much, i needed to visually confirm that you weren't sampling a Rick Wright organ piece, accompanied by Gilmour's fluid guitar. amazing work, sir.

[@heathermoder3723]

Heather Moder 1 second ago Good to see you back man! Your stuff is top notch and so inspiring and helpful to me musically. Great info and hope you feel refreshed!

[@adammindykowski6984]

That was wonderful Stefan. This is such a good and instructive series. I love using early chain reverb to leverage more movement and percussion from tremolo and filter pedals. Now I'm going to experiment some more with drones, inspired, as always by your music Stefan. That was a masterclass in sound design and beautiful composition.

[@kevin6156]

Great to have you back! Reverb early in the chain is definitely cool, lately I've been using the Spring Reverb in the Koma Elektronik FieldKit FX first in line when playing with synths and everything else after that. Nice and spacey 👌

[@scottholder4790]

Once again, here I am handing over more money on more reverb pedals! Superb playing. Superb teamwork.

[@WhiteWolf--]

Great stuff as always Stefan. Yeah I've always been a reverb at the end guy, but lately, with all the incredible options for different reverb types, there's no reason to not have one at the start of my chain also!

[@lyndonscarfe9945]

Nice to see you back Stefan. I also run the Afterneath at the front and Meris M7 at the end, which you beautifully demonstrated. I recently added a Drolo Molecular Disruptor which is a wonderful pedal particularly for experimental tones, that also has a few interesting reverb algorithms. Would love to see you demonstrate it. All the best.

[@adamdavis106]

This was fantastic, truly magical sounds. Thanks Stefan.

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you! I'm really happy you enjoyed the tones

[@louderthangod]

Time and time again you make really beautiful music with your demos. This one really reminds me to simplify my setup. I’ve got multiple huge boards and I’m better off writing when I focus on just a couple of tones and pedals rather than stacking 10 different pedals and just making a mess (sometimes fun but always chaotic and only rarely useful).

[@ColoradoDreamin]

I wasn’t excited when I saw the title of this vid... but after watching it was actually one of my favs! I love the “step by step” on how to get those complex sounds! Inspired me big time! I just got done with a two hour creative ambient jam (by myself haha) to end my evening. Thanks man and job well done, again!!

[@arsenysolovyov7517]

Perfect timing, was really curious about that topic this morning

[@thepedalzone]

Well if that isn't a crazy coincidence, then I don't know what is. Happy to be there with the expert timing for once 😊

[@kirabarsmith9353]

You never cease to amaze, Stefan, please keep up the great work!

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you so very much! Incredibly kind of you 🙏

[@SpiderStratagemVI]

Wow! Again, WOW! Much like other comments, I kept my reverb toward the mid to end. But now, I will go beginning and end with varied settings. Thanks for getting me out of my 'verb rut!

[@niallsinclair3159]

This is one of the best videos you've made! Tonnes of interesting combos & thinking outside of the box. Good job Stefan!

[@thepedalzone]

Wow, thanks! I'm super humbled and honored 🙏

[@zacharyvaccaro5632]

What a cool video! Thanks for those great tips and ideas to add to my playing. Great to have you back man. Your Channel always has the most inspiring and creative sounds! 🤘🎸

[@thepedalzone]

Oh wow! I’m super honored and humbled, man. Thank you 🙏 Really thrilled to hear you find the videos inspiring.

[@christofyre]

Love love LOVE the sounds from 5:38 til 6:13! Afterneath is probably my all time favorite pedal. At least half my tones involve two reverbs, most often one between fuzz and modulation and another at the end of the chain. It’s also possible to do really neat things with stacked delays... the other day I fed my Space Spiral into a Disaster Transport SR and got unbelievable ambient drones out of it. A new favorite sound! Keep bringing the great content Stefan! You truly inspire us all to do more with the sound of our guitars!

[@michaelbreach5862]

You definitely taught me the way with the afterneath early in the chain... the softer decay is perfect for elongating that signal so you can phase, and cut and tremolo it up! I remember you doing a video about mods after the reverb a while back and it really has been a game changer!

[@Benjamin-qi1cx]

Man, I really love reverb (years of listening shoegaze and Devin Townsend), thanks for showing this clearly and so in depth

[@githondriel]

Time for another pedalboard rebuild! Great work on this video, truly enjoyed it!

[@thepedalzone]

Awesome to hear the video gave you some new inspiration and ideas to try out 🙏

[@umZedaesquina]

I should know by now that your videos should only be watched at the end of the day, and never ever on a lunch break while working from home...I mean I need to work and now all I want to do is go and play and try some of this out...thanks for the bucket-load of ideas and sounds to explore!!!!

[@DiscreteCircuitry]

Loved this Stefan. Tonal Teamwork is definitely my favourite series!

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you, my friend! Means a lot to me. I really enjoy making these tutorials. So it's awesome to hear that they are enjoyed on the other end of the screen as well 😊❤🙏

[@ST4RCLOUD]

Thank you for the beautiful soundscapes and excellent presentation

[@thepedalzone]

Cheers! I'm happy you found the video helpful and inspiring 🙏

[@mariossavvidis1396]

Wonderful demo of my favourite effect type! You know... I always watch your demos at least twice. First a quick look when you upload them and then when I have some relaxing time drinking some coffee or a beer I really enjoy them! For 100% wet, I always use the Avalanche run. For me it's the best reverb on this.

[@maciek_p]

Great video and great playing as always Stefan!

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you! Means a lot to me 🙏

[@the5chord]

Just beautiful man! Inspiring stuff.

[@VikingWizard]

Such a great video! Good to have you back :)

[@thepedalzone]

Awwww! Thank you so much! It's good to be back 🙏

[@digitlflesh]

So Helpful. Also it’s really relaxing hearing you play.

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you so much! Really happy to hear you found the video helpful and that it was able to provide you with moments of zen as well

[@walloffuzz3893]

Earned a sub, thank you so much for this information. More power to your channel!

[@rahzark]

I love this style of tips and tricks videos. I've been thinking a lot about pre-gain delays and you gave me some ideas on what to try :D

[@thepedalzone]

That's awesome, man! Early chain delays are cool to experiment with as well.

[@benjaminfowler4513]

Appreciate all the effort you put into these videos man... Always something to get inspired by here. Thanks!!

[@thepedalzone]

Awww, man! Thank you. A LOT of hours go into these videos, and this one in particular. So it's always great when all the time spent gets appreciated on the other end of the screen. Stoked that the video inspired you ❤

[@stevesmith3990]

Awesome sounds, thanks for the ideas Stefan!

[@davidc0812]

this was inspirational. i'm looking forward to moving some things around this weekend.

[@daveychainsaw961]

5:23 blew my mind! That is so cool. (Runs off to grab Dweller, Gravitas, and Fathom!) I'm sure I've said this before but i learn so much from how you combine pedals and techniques. I can't think of any one else who does this so well. Thanks Stefan.

[@TenisDimants]

Thank you, great video and amazing sounds! Now im off to experiment with my reverbs and drives.

[@alphanuevo]

Very nice. Thanks for sharing your tips. I'll try this with the limited pedals / gear that I have and possibly even in Ableton with VSTs as well.

[@jameswilkins4motion]

Probably the most useful KZbin video I’ve ever watched. Your content is so amazing. Thank you

[@thepedalzone]

Oh wow! I'm speechless. Just... THANK YOU!

[@AlexPriceMusician]

It's such a treat when you upload Stefan. Love your channel!

[@thepedalzone]

Awwwww! Thank you so much!

[@papersquares]

Always a pleasure to hear you play. So dreamy.

[@thepedalzone]

Awwwww! Thanks!

[@seank.2589]

11:06 That is so dang cool!!

[@JohnSmithiuyytw]

So now I know about Belton Brick reverbs and using multiple reverbs, nice one! Great video as ever, very inspiring, thanks for putting it out. Now I have to buy a Mercury 7 :)

[@serdar.saglam]

One of the best reverb videos. Thanks

[@thepedalzone]

Gosh! That's so sweet of you to say. Thank you!

[@TheSalinski]

Great video. Changed my way of thinking!

[@pa.guitar]

So. Good. Thank you for this. The beginning of chain, sustaining trick is brilliant.

[@thepedalzone]

Thanks, man! Happy you found that trick helpful. I use that a lot. So simple, but so effective and useful 😊

[@stndrdnz]

Really well done video! I learned a lot from it. Cheers for that!

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you! Really rad to hear you found the video inspiring and helpful in your own tone chasing endeavors ☺

[@guitarnoodles7576]

Awesome tips! Definitely gonna get some good mileage out of these ideas. Thanks man!

[@Xander_Dog_Frog]

This was great! I have so many new ideas to try out

[@thewatersofdream]

Love the quality and touch of humor. Great video Bro.

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you! Really appreciate that 🙏

[@johnlespaul2009]

Tried the ReV b4 and after! Excellent recommendation! The afterneath + big sky.....so cool! You’re the best Mr. Fast!

[@thepedalzone]

That's awesome, man! So happy you found the video helpful and inspiring 🙏

[@greygardens81]

You have no right making these videos so good. No damn right!

[@thepedalzone]

Haha! I'm "sorry"! 😂❤

[@Electr7st]

FINALLY ANOTHER VIDEO, ITS BEEN TOO LONG, IVE BEEN CHECKING DAILY!

[@thepedalzone]

Happy you're excited. I needed a tiny break from it all, but it's good to be back 😊

[@rihraw]

this guy is a reverb specialist. Well done! I had no idea about all these options

[@thepedalzone]

Gosh! Thank you so much ❤

[@post-man23]

Awesome and inspiring 🙏🏻 Thanks Stefan

[@MegaBrebis]

Very good and thorough analysis.

[@nathanschad8048]

Eyyyyye! Get my j Macsis Jazzmaster today. So excited. Great vid, love the tonal teamwork’s!

[@thepedalzone]

Sweeeet! It's a really great guitar. You're gonna love it. Happy you enjoyed the video!

[@colonialpimp]

Love it! Inspiring stuff. Keep it up!

[@thepedalzone]

Oh wow! Thank you 🙏

[@gph2193]

Definitively, Inspiring. Thank you Stephan.

[@thepedalzone]

So happy to hear you enjoyed the video and found it inspiring 🙏

[@Relayer6a]

I'm glad you think it's so important. Personally I think reverb, the way it's used in this vid, is the most musically destructive effect I've ever heard.

[@shyharmonic]

Fantastic! Awesome sounds

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you so much!

[@garethcole8416]

Thank you again, that was super helpful. Going to put my Afterneath at the front of the chain now, makes perfect sense. This is the best of your videos so far though - because I have several of the pedals already lol and don't need to buy any more ;-) Cheap day out...

[@dylanclay5267]

Great video as always! I always feel like I learn something or want to try something new! I like to run the CBA Dark world first fully wet for some Andy Othling style drones or in the spring mode into dirt for some Neil Young Dead Man soundtrack tones. The EAE Hypersleep is also fun up front as it feels like each note sits on its own pillow of verb.

[@marshalsea000]

So many gorgeous tones in here, and lovely walk through. Proving "you can never have too much reverb."

[@thepedalzone]

Awwww! Thank you!

[@marshalsea000]

I've come back 10 months later for more Reverb goodness.