This is Why you Need More Reverb: Early-Chain Reverb VS End-Of-Chain Reverb (Stereo-Use headphones)

[@jburdsinfuse]

This video assumes we all have multiple reverbs and effect pedals just laying around. And you would be correct.

[@thepedalzone]

Yay! Reverb!

[@paulborovay]

Such a great/funny comment :) because it’s so true

[@Wilbafarce]

😂

[@Wilbafarce]

😂

[@aangtonio5570]

I have both the MS-50G and the MS-70CDR. Done! 😎👌

[@CastToVoid]

ThePedalZone: "This is Why you Need More Reverb" Me: "Awesome! An enabler!"

[@theoryofthrash]

Sums up guitar related youtube content perfectly

[@lofijunky]

So true. I wouldn’t have it any other way

[@ericlayton8888]

A big sounding spring reverb into a compressor into a Big Muff sounds absolutely HUGE - compressor adds even more sustain to the reverb trails, added to even more by the Muff, which also distorts the trails and disguises the reverb as fuzzed out extra long sustain

[@DeusExAurum]

Finally somebody advocating putting Verb infront of distortion! Beautiful shoegaze sounds

[@thepedalzone]

Happy you enjoyed that sound. I love how the trails of the reverb gets more grainy from it.

[@thepedalzone]

It's good to be back, gang! I took some time to work on a video topic that I'm really stoked about. The magic you can achieve by running both a reverb at the front and the end of your signal chain. I hope you learn something from this video, or you at least enjoy the compositions in there. If you do, then please consider leaving a like, comment or share the video with your partners in tone. Endless gratitude to you all - Stefan

[@jonaseggen2230]

One thing that can be fun with a "boring" analogue synth is to put a reverb before distortion. So maybe put another reverb after that again? Yes, I'll try.

[@satherp5]

@ThePedalZone awesome video. I’ve come back to watch this a few times. Question: would you say there are any options for people that want an early chain reverb to do well in both categories “1 sustainer” and “2 shoegazer”? Need something for sustained modulation as well as that wall of heavy dirt that also adds sustain. Thanks again for the great demo videos and all the knowledge. Best pedal demo channel on KZbin.

[@thepedalzone]

@@satherp5 - Cheers! Really happy you liked the video. And yes, the answer to both of your needs is the EQD Afterneath. It's amazing for both tasks :)

[@jonaseggen2230]

@@satherp5 I put a comment here so I get notified on any reply to this.

[@jordandangelo180]

Hey bro! Just picked up the new CXM Chase Bliss - Meris CXM 1978 reverb collab and it made me think of you. I’ll check to see if you put out of demo for it yet but if you haven’t you should. If there was ever a reverb pedal made for your style of playing, it’s the CXM.

[@TheVolthause]

Before: I'm finally done with my pedalboard. I don't need any more pedals. After: WELL I GUESS I NEED ANOTHER REVERB NOW. Serious cool video. I never knew how to create some of those textures.

[@thepedalzone]

Haha! Raaaad! I'm honored that you found the video inspiring 🙏

[@victormotsekgaladua3178]

Just when I thought I am done with buying more pedals... ouch there is one more... guess the pedal will be 1 metre by 1 metre... Good enlightenment.

[@orryfishburne5326]

Hahahha. I was just thinking the same thing.

[@c0unterac342]

Same here

[@markferguson3745]

You'll be much happier if you abandon the concept of " done", or " finished".

[@JD15172]

Dude your videos have inspired me to take a completely different approach to my playing. I think my favorite pedal reviewer out there.

[@KodyXXVll]

out of the literal thousands of guitar effects and pedal videos i've watched over the past two decades.....this was one of the coolest, most interesting, varied, informative, fun, inspiring, and efficient videos I've ever seen. amazing

[@laydownmisere3674]

Stefan, another thing that makes this video so good is that a lot of us already have a substantial collection of pedals and are trying to wean ourselves off bad cases of GAS. This video, which highlights great use of existing pedals and is not simply a demo of the next "must have" pedals, breathes life into what we already have on our boards by providing inspiration to try new combinations of old favourites. I am not aware of anyone else doing this and I hope you find an expanded audience due to your efforts.

[@buckdancer421]

I've always kept 'verb strictly at the end of my chain. Was really cool to hear all these different tones, great as always man!

[@thepedalzone]

Happy to hear the video was able to give you a new perspective on how to use reverb :)

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

This guy is my new favorite pedal guy. He's not only knowledgeable, he's also got a great vibe amd personality.

[@thepedalzone]

Awwww, man! Thank you so much! Really means the world to me ❤

[@flaminx0r]

I come back to this video every few months. Usually when I'm curious about something reverb related and then I usually stay to listen to the whole showcase 😅

[@thepedalzone]

I'm super honored to hear that. Thank you for sticking around 😊

[@daveychainsaw961]

5:23 blew my mind! That is so cool. (Runs off to grab Dweller, Gravitas, and Fathom!) I'm sure I've said this before but i learn so much from how you combine pedals and techniques. I can't think of any one else who does this so well. Thanks Stefan.

[@silvioschmidt5346]

I think this is the most educational video on pedals I have ever watched.

[@thepedalzone]

Wow! That makes me so happy to hear ❤

[@PhoenixGuitars]

At first I was thinking oh boy... He just really likes reverb... But once you hit the early chain I immediately realized the usefulness and beauty of your point. Your playing of course illustrates it best. Rock on brother and thanks for your passion!

[@SquareWaveSymphonies]

Nothing beats a great 'Tonal-Teamwork'-episode! You inspired me to put my overdrive at the end of my signalchain, which has completely transformed my playing.

[@thisguy2973]

I’ve been a lifelong metalhead and experimental musician. The more I get into pedals, the more my style is changing. I’ve been looking to justify keeping my Avalanche Run while incorporating an additional verb in the chain. Thank you for this!

[@thepedalzone]

I'm happy to hear that the video gave you some new creative ideas to explore. There's always room for more reverb 😊

[@m3andzoloft]

I didn't realize I needed a new distortion pedal, but that KMA Wurm has me feeling things. So powerful!

[@thepedalzone]

It’s so insanely good! I’m excited to hear you enjoyed the sound. I think it’s a very underrated and versatile dirt box

[@DiscreteCircuitry]

Loved this Stefan. Tonal Teamwork is definitely my favourite series!

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you, my friend! Means a lot to me. I really enjoy making these tutorials. So it's awesome to hear that they are enjoyed on the other end of the screen as well 😊❤🙏

[@seank.2589]

11:06 That is so dang cool!!

[@umZedaesquina]

I should know by now that your videos should only be watched at the end of the day, and never ever on a lunch break while working from home...I mean I need to work and now all I want to do is go and play and try some of this out...thanks for the bucket-load of ideas and sounds to explore!!!!

[@ColoradoDreamin]

I wasn’t excited when I saw the title of this vid... but after watching it was actually one of my favs! I love the “step by step” on how to get those complex sounds! Inspired me big time! I just got done with a two hour creative ambient jam (by myself haha) to end my evening. Thanks man and job well done, again!!

[@vveld_]

I've long been running my Dark Star at the start of the chain, wedged between two drives. Bit of Keeley Caverns at the end of the chain for added sweetness.

[@thepedalzone]

Very nice! Dark Star is just so phenomenal early in the chain.

[@notandylincoln]

This is blowing my mind. Wow.

[@thepedalzone]

Really happy to hear you find the concept and ideas inspiring. Means a lot!

[@jameswilkins4motion]

Probably the most useful KZbin video I’ve ever watched. Your content is so amazing. Thank you

[@thepedalzone]

Oh wow! I'm speechless. Just... THANK YOU!

[@plaintigergrrr8496]

Don’t forget about reverse reverb full wet for that MBV glide 😎 cool vid !

[@thepedalzone]

Indeed! Reverse reverb is fun. Just used it in my Keeley Loomer demo

[@gonzalozech]

Man 11:40 jam blew me away to the other room

[@thepedalzone]

Dude! Thank you! ❤

[@needlenosemusic]

I recently found your channel and now I can’t stop watching your videos. It’s like you’re in my head and it’s awesome. It’s also your fault I now own an Afterneath and a Moog expression pedal. Thanks a lot!

[@rihraw]

this guy is a reverb specialist. Well done! I had no idea about all these options

[@thepedalzone]

Gosh! Thank you so much ❤

[@ClandestineCrystals]

You definitely taught me the way with the afterneath early in the chain... the softer decay is perfect for elongating that signal so you can phase, and cut and tremolo it up! I remember you doing a video about mods after the reverb a while back and it really has been a game changer!

[@mikkokelanen8000]

Oh yay, Tonal Teamwork is back! Not gonna lie, it’s one of my favs of yours my dear good mister.

[@Benjamin-qi1cx]

Man, I really love reverb (years of listening shoegaze and Devin Townsend), thanks for showing this clearly and so in depth

[@tommyrotts]

Stefan please make a patreon. I wanna throw money at you. You could do a more nerdy breakdown of pedals, showing what knobs you are turning and talk about why/what it is doing. I just got a Hedra and had extreme anxiety trying to figure out all the extra effects. I had to put it away in shame for another day. This happens a lot, so learning more about pedals and what the knobs are doing would be nice for complex pedals, or simpler ones for pedal newcomers. Or you could just put up little 1 minute clips of a pretty riff. It would be really nice to finally have some of your beautiful music. Or put up nothing and let me pay you because I think you're neat. I love what you do, please never stop

[@bobsondugnutt5688]

Great comment, couldn't agree more

[@universalelectricradio2373]

Haha haha....😜

[@FuzzyDancingBear]

Wish I was rich.

[@lordjamon]

This is really true. Stefan could also provide tabs for some of your demos and lots of people would give 5 bucks a month

[@PedalExperiments]

Perfect timing! I'm just about to reorganise my board and I've been thinking about putting a reverb pedal at the start of my chain!

[@thepedalzone]

I've never been known to have good timing, so I'm happy I nailed it for once 😂 Hope the video gave you some new ideas for you pedalboard makeover

[@PedalExperiments]

@@thepedalzone Ha ha! Absolutely. Great video as always, mate. Look after yourself and keep up the good work!

[@louderthangod]

Time and time again you make really beautiful music with your demos. This one really reminds me to simplify my setup. I’ve got multiple huge boards and I’m better off writing when I focus on just a couple of tones and pedals rather than stacking 10 different pedals and just making a mess (sometimes fun but always chaotic and only rarely useful).

[@ilgilgg]

Thank you for making me feel less bummed out about all the cool reverb offerings that are NOT available in stereo. Perhaps I can get a dark world after all :)

[@thepedalzone]

There's definitely nothing to be bummed out about when it comes to mono reverbs. They sound absolutely otherworldly huge when fed into a stereo delay or stere reverb. Dark World is really cool and unique, that's for sure.

[@marshalsea000]

So many gorgeous tones in here, and lovely walk through. Proving "you can never have too much reverb."

[@thepedalzone]

Awwww! Thank you!

[@marshalsea000]

I've come back 10 months later for more Reverb goodness.

[@ChorusHunter]

Man, the video is lovely, as yours always are. It definetely solved some of my doubts, signal chain wise, and I can't wait for some other contents like this. You keep fueling my love for pedals, but most important, justify my money spending haha. Which pickups are installed in your Tonfuchs? Your guitar sound at 11:06 is great even without pedals.

[@TheAmazingSnarf]

another home run, Stefan. thank you for all the effort you're putting into your channel. for those of us still stuck at home, these productions really can open up the rest of the Universe for us when we're sitting there, looking at our music gear and waiting for inspiration to arrive. whenever your productions air, the dust covers come off of my own personal gear, the pedals get powered up, and fun happens. gratitude. p/s: often i'll just close my eyes and listen, and then go back to view afterwards. the Procession Tremolo at 8:33 startled me so much, i needed to visually confirm that you weren't sampling a Rick Wright organ piece, accompanied by Gilmour's fluid guitar. amazing work, sir.

[@tonycarpenter-Makzimia]

Sounded excellent in my headphones. Thanks for sharing, I've never even thought of putting a before and after reverb inline... goes to show even after 50 years, you can still learn.

[@JasonCaringella]

Another great video! I run a Ghost Echo up front into my fuzz into the Ringworm into Rainbow Machine into a few delays then a T.C. Electronics Surfrider set at 80% wet into a Drone Rainger into Overdrive into the Tensor into the Obscura Delay into the HOF2 reverb into the Particle finally into the Kafka reverb. Never can have too many delay or reverb pedals! Awesome job, Stefan, keep it up 👍

[@AlexPriceMusician]

It's such a treat when you upload Stefan. Love your channel!

[@thepedalzone]

Awwwww! Thank you so much!

[@Relayer6a]

I'm glad you think it's so important. Personally I think reverb, the way it's used in this vid, is the most musically destructive effect I've ever heard.

[@russellkane9439]

That is really cool

[@thepedalzone]

Cheers! Happy you enjoyed the video and found it informative

[@SpiderStratagemVI]

Wow! Again, WOW! Much like other comments, I kept my reverb toward the mid to end. But now, I will go beginning and end with varied settings. Thanks for getting me out of my 'verb rut!

[@tcw8287]

All my hx stomp patches are now getting a new block of reverb at the front of each preset, thank you .

[@thepedalzone]

Awesome!

[@KitKalvert]

I think this is my best video on the internet. Thank you for sharing your experience knowledge and beautiful sounds mate!

[@greygardens81]

You have no right making these videos so good. No damn right!

[@thepedalzone]

Haha! I'm "sorry"! 😂❤

[@niallsinclair3159]

This is one of the best videos you've made! Tonnes of interesting combos & thinking outside of the box. Good job Stefan!

[@thepedalzone]

Wow, thanks! I'm super humbled and honored 🙏

[@serdar.saglam]

One of the best reverb videos. Thanks

[@thepedalzone]

Gosh! That's so sweet of you to say. Thank you!

[@gonzalozech]

Absolutely love this, despite the randomness of the Thermae it is still beautiful

[@thepedalzone]

It is an incredible pedal. Nothing else quite sounds like it. The repeats and shifts just have so much character.

[@gonzalozech]

@@thepedalzone I'm already waiting for mine, they are having a 6 months delay 🙃

[@orryfishburne5326]

I love putting chorus after reverb. Using a JC40's chorus with a reverb going into the front of the amp

[@thepedalzone]

Any modulation after reverb is killer, but yes, Chorus is indeed exceptionally great for it

[@SynMusique]

So, is this like the, "needs more cowbell" thing?

[@thepedalzone]

The only real cure is always more reverb!

[@marcusstrymon693]

I use the strymon nightsky, then the timeline and then the bigsky. How crazy this sounds together. Plus on the iridium you have room reverb

[@kevin6156]

Great to have you back! Reverb early in the chain is definitely cool, lately I've been using the Spring Reverb in the Koma Elektronik FieldKit FX first in line when playing with synths and everything else after that. Nice and spacey 👌

[@user-lu1pt2ud3y]

This is great stuff, seriously. I found myself just lost in those post rock tunes everytime, forgot that this was a demo/tutorial. On that note, a tutorial on some of your ideas, composing, chords, anything really, would be so great.

[@AndyAcker]

Seconded. I would love a tutorial or description video of composition and playing thoughts. That and a behind-the-scenes production of these videos, video, are on my wishlist. I'd honestly even subscribe to a Patreon feed if these were on there...

[@michaelcraig9449]

Post rock means nothing. Rock will last forever, and post means after... so call it something else, maybe Dreampop and SHoegaze..

[@TheSaniwaa]

Ooh boy, we're in for a treat ! 20 minutes of Stefan's playing, we've won the loto

[@thepedalzone]

Haha! Thank you ❤

[@travist.warren5824]

I mean the video instructions on reverb are cool but your playing is incredible. I love your ear man. Great melodies

[@thepedalzone]

Awww, man! Appreciate it. Thank you!

[@Acousticeg]

This is my go to channel for pedal inspiration...

[@thepedalzone]

Oh wow! I'm super honored to hear that!

[@christofyre]

Love love LOVE the sounds from 5:38 til 6:13! Afterneath is probably my all time favorite pedal. At least half my tones involve two reverbs, most often one between fuzz and modulation and another at the end of the chain. It’s also possible to do really neat things with stacked delays... the other day I fed my Space Spiral into a Disaster Transport SR and got unbelievable ambient drones out of it. A new favorite sound! Keep bringing the great content Stefan! You truly inspire us all to do more with the sound of our guitars!

[@kilgoretrout700]

Wow, nicely done my friend. Your enthusiasm is infectious.

[@jaricklosey4607]

I’m not a reverb guy but this was brilliant. Really creative. Well done.

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you so much!

[@thewatersofdream]

Love the quality and touch of humor. Great video Bro.

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you! Really appreciate that 🙏

[@Electr7st]

FINALLY ANOTHER VIDEO, ITS BEEN TOO LONG, IVE BEEN CHECKING DAILY!

[@thepedalzone]

Happy you're excited. I needed a tiny break from it all, but it's good to be back 😊

[@githondriel]

Time for another pedalboard rebuild! Great work on this video, truly enjoyed it!

[@thepedalzone]

Awesome to hear the video gave you some new inspiration and ideas to try out 🙏

[@WhiteWolf--]

Great stuff as always Stefan. Yeah I've always been a reverb at the end guy, but lately, with all the incredible options for different reverb types, there's no reason to not have one at the start of my chain also!

[@scottholder4790]

Once again, here I am handing over more money on more reverb pedals! Superb playing. Superb teamwork.

[@asktheidiotgaming539]

Love the Daughters shirt

[@aresniysolovev]

Perfect timing, was really curious about that topic this morning

[@thepedalzone]

Well if that isn't a crazy coincidence, then I don't know what is. Happy to be there with the expert timing for once 😊

[@SnitchScapes]

One of my fave from these setups has to be the bitcrushing reverb going through the aqueduct! This just give off that nostalgic lofi vibe going on and can be perfect to a cyberpunk film as well! Awesome vid about reverbs man!

[@thepedalzone]

Cheers! Probably my fave as well, alongside the Procession into Thermae. But yeah, Dark Star always adds the brooding lo-fi vibes, and some vibrato just makes it all move in a wonderfully nostalgic way.

[@SnitchScapes]

ThePedalZone Totally man! Thank you man for another tone exploration inducing episode! Cheers!🍻

[@TheTwangKings]

I love this! So inspiring! You don't need to be a keyboard player to produce beautiful ambient soundscapes.

[@thepedalzone]

Glad you like it! There's just a wonderful world of sounds at our disposal these days.

[@papersquares]

Always a pleasure to hear you play. So dreamy.

[@thepedalzone]

Awwwww! Thanks!

[@pa.guitar]

So. Good. Thank you for this. The beginning of chain, sustaining trick is brilliant.

[@thepedalzone]

Thanks, man! Happy you found that trick helpful. I use that a lot. So simple, but so effective and useful 😊

[@richardsaurusrex]

I’m about to re-do my pedalboard and I’m so glad I watched this for ideas first.

[@thepedalzone]

So great to hear it was able to give you some new ideas for your upcoming board build 😊

[@AlbusBand]

Ahhhhh floating away to the genius of Stefan...this will be a good day. Cheers bro, you’re amazing 😘.

[@brenthoskins8436]

wow this is awesome, right now i only have verb at the end of my board, but i agree with ya, it's the best effect of all. thanks for another amazing and informative video, man!

[@TonyHislop]

Very creative, you really have an ear and brain for getting these great ambient pieces going. Thanks man, enlightening.💥

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you! Honored to hear you found the video inspiring and helpful

[@batcaver]

When you introduced the last "Transformer" section you said it will be "synthetic" and i thought; oh scary ! i usually don't like it ! ... but the last part with the dark star pedal was pretty interesting i must say ! one thing is for sure you have great taste for ambient/shoegaze/postrock pedals

[@compucorder64]

Great demo. Just got an OBNE Dark Star. And was thinking to put it early in chain, like you do Procession. But my thinking was mainly that it's a mono reverb, and my delay is mono to stereo (Boss DM-101), second delay is Polymoon, and modulation is stereo (TC Electronic SCF+). I intend to use the Dark Star as my synth pedal, so this video helped clarify. I use either Surfy Bear in effects loop of one Vox AC30 amp, dry end of chain, the other. Or a UAFX Del-Verb on stereo Spring, or Mercury X on a huge lush reverb, when using stereo amps or wet/dry/wet (Vox AC15C1, Marshall ST20H JTM, Vox AC30S1). I'm thinkingthat the Dark Star will make a great Early Chain reverb. It can do bright sustain. and the Crush setting can do more 'granular' texture for that Shoegaze type effect too. And it can do the 100% slow attack, long release synth drone, especially with my other delay+mod, the Meris Polymoon. I like the idea of early 'lo-fi' reverb, and then 'hi-fi' end-of-chain reverb (e.g. UAFX or MercuryX)

[@johnlespaul2009]

Tried the ReV b4 and after! Excellent recommendation! The afterneath + big sky.....so cool! You’re the best Mr. Fast!

[@thepedalzone]

That's awesome, man! So happy you found the video helpful and inspiring 🙏

[@Oh.No.Brousseau]

Nice to have you back! Now I can just get cozy and enjoy your music!

[@JamonCam]

@17:35 ... what a sound

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you! 🙏

[@johnhubbs]

First thing im doing tomorrow is putting my Fathom to the front of my board. Thanks for the ideas.

[@thepedalzone]

Awesome! Hope you discover some cool uses for it there 😊👌

[@travisw912]

Excellent explanation of the early reverb. Given me some new ideas. And cool Daughters shirt 🖤

[@ndr475]

Yes, Verb is first on my board. Into the Son of Ben, and then DOD rubberneck.

[@thepedalzone]

Rad!!

[@ndr475]

@@thepedalzone What pedal do you recomend for random vibrato?

[@VikingWizard]

Such a great video! Good to have you back :)

[@thepedalzone]

Awwww! Thank you so much! It's good to be back 🙏

[@PearlJamaholic]

I only have 1 reverb pedal, but I have 3 delay pedals in my chain, i might put my short tape delay pedal in front and see what happens. This video really has me thinking about the placement of all my delays!

[@sandyturner1911]

I just got the Red Panda Particle V2. I put this in front of the effects loop chain. It seems to do a lot of what you're talking about. I have a Boss RV6 at the end. Your stuff is always so beautiful. Thanks!

[@kirabarsmith9353]

You never cease to amaze, Stefan, please keep up the great work!

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you so very much! Incredibly kind of you 🙏

[@sapphicquartz]

18:31 that guitartone just wow

[@thepedalzone]

Awww! Thank you!

[@theghostoferictheactor9808]

After watching this video I put a reverb in front of my wampler pantheon and I finally was able to match the Gilmour live early 70s tone from when Floyd would play Echoes. I encourage people to look up Pink Floyd live Boston 73 and listen to that metallic biting and eerie distortion tone from Echoes. It’s incredible.

[@teddyrock5677]

After I saw your vid I bought the mooer A7 and R7 to experiment. I guess I'll use the A7 for the early-chain. The Infinite tail function in it is perfect to use it as a sustain pedal too! Maybe the TC HOF2 pedal would work simillar. If I'm fixing my tone I would change the mooer into the TC.

[@davidbyourplanb]

I never though of putting the verb at the beginning - brilliant!

[@thepedalzone]

Stoked to hear the video presented you with some new ideas and concepts to try out 😊

[@heathermoder3723]

Heather Moder 1 second ago Good to see you back man! Your stuff is top notch and so inspiring and helpful to me musically. Great info and hope you feel refreshed!

[@apolloguitars]

Gorgeous sounds

[@thepedalzone]

Thank you so much!

[@alphanuevo]

Very nice. Thanks for sharing your tips. I'll try this with the limited pedals / gear that I have and possibly even in Ableton with VSTs as well.

[@michaelmattson3515]

I just did the double reverb with my iPad apps with modulations & reverse delay. Wow!

[@thepedalzone]

Awesome!! Sounds like you're having a lot of fun with these ideas and concepts 😊

[@garethcole8416]

Thank you again, that was super helpful. Going to put my Afterneath at the front of the chain now, makes perfect sense. This is the best of your videos so far though - because I have several of the pedals already lol and don't need to buy any more ;-) Cheap day out...

[@HeathWestmelodiousdesign]

So good brother. 12:35.. got lost in that one man, thank you.

[@nathaniellarson8]

I love this! I have a HOF on my board that I really don't use and now I will! I already tried it and it opens a whole new dimension. Thanks!