12 Bot Lane Duos I HATE playing against the most (Strongest Season 9)

[@Pwop_]

I never thought of Vayne and Veig that’s cheesy

[@taekwondoanalysishorts]

yeah they are pretty borng

[@guyzamdvais1357]

Same

[@Razon02]

Yeah never knew that you could use vayne e to slam the enemies into veigar e

[@Sekaro297]

@@Razon02 I figured it out some months ago when playing veigar mid and I just roamed bot.. It just came to me like a dream, this is an opportunity. The issue is that sometimes if you aren't premade and you are losing early because of some reason, the vayne/veigar doesn't understand to play safe since you scale like hell anyways.

[@Chunbar]

1. Xayah + Rakan 2. Cait + Morg 3. Kog + Lulu 4. Ezreal + Yummi 5. Ashe + Zyra 6. Kai'sa + Naut 7. Draven + Jana 8. Lucian + Braum 9. Cait + Karma 10. Vayne + Veigar 11. Garen + Yummi 12. Yas + Ali

[@juanmanrique451]

13. You + Me

[@Keizn]

@@juanmanrique451 That's hot

[@unphazd5137]

@@juanmanrique451 (You + Me) + 1. *wink* *wink*

[@xechidnax]

Thank you.

[@hmmmpathetic7662]

@@juanmanrique451 *blush*

[@nthetiteGHOST]

10:30 “Moo cow alistar brings the dings” Yes he does, yes he does.

[@yasserjlaidi5238]

The miss fortune and Leona combo

[@monsteralta]

Bro you are not alone, classic duo

[@BenevolentEye]

he mad disrespectful for just not saying ANYTHING about them

[@ДенисИванов-е3т]

better swap leona for morgana. her E can stop any CC to interupt MF R

[@monsteralta]

@@ДенисИванов-е3т Seriously, mf+ leona dont even need to wait for the ult to due damage

[@cyborgtemplar1989]

this, definately this. that lvl 6 pres r botlane . . . . mf zyra does something similar.

[@aarushkumar7052]

I feel sad no one mentioned my Nami or Sona :’-(

[@bren_yoo]

taric sona?

[@FenixPlateado]

Kalista Thresh should have been an honorable mention, I know she's not played much but it's still so good.

[@BenevolentEye]

i 100% agree. I also feel like leona and mf should have been mentioned.

[@bobaGogo]

Kalista used to be the most broken adc by far, riot nerfed her way too much. Many chinese players still use Kalista thresh as a boosting strategy

[@Sai69-n1m]

whos kalista?

[@markopusic8258]

@@Sai69-n1m Must have mispelled Kai'sa, happens

[@spookyspook]

Kalista's playrate is higher than Kog's one btw

[@andytran7768]

You mentioned it once in a video before, but MF Leona is super wild. The make it rain triggers all of Leona's applications of her passive, plus Leona's lockdown guarantees eating a whole MF ult

[@bananeproblem4215]

they dont know about the BardJhin combo

[@Doinken]

Miss fortune & Yuumi Ult combo: really annoying and a ton of dmg Miss fortune does a lot of damage but doesn’t have many escape routes, Yuumi helps with that. Miss fortune takes a lot of damage since she does so much, Yuumi can heal that. Miss fortunes E slows enemies, so does Yuumis Q, her E can also speed up miss fortune to get kills

[@lancetubig1866]

8:41 Why do I feel satisfied at that gragas ult

[@darkslayer7673]

4:38 is it just me or is thresh having lethal tempo

[@kazzardiusthetomato7968]

Malp+ Taric :) Shout out to my boi Rossboomsocks

[@RaffiTheQuokka]

that actually sounds really good

[@kebabgames420hehexd6]

Any adc + nautilus

[@DarkDodgers]

Nautilus+Nautilus

[@albyhere]

Nautilus can literally half HP an adc while going full tank and its ok w Riot

[@GameBreaker1055]

@@DarkDodgers Anything + Nautilus

[@eurocrem7030]

played naut rn, it s just not fair, i do like 50% hp to enemy adc in a few seconds, and my kaisa just clears it...he got nerfed but still too much cc

[@GameBreaker1055]

@@eurocrem7030 the "allied cc gives Kai'sa" a Stack thing needs to go. Nautilus should loose base HP and gain strength via buying health instead of having enough base damage to counter Morgana with it

[@geosspow]

Kalista Thresh, Yasuo Grag, and the most tilting, HEIMERDOG FIDDLE.

[@MineBoyChannel]

New Senna + Lucien combo. Very high burst and all-in damage

[@aeneyes4273]

Have you tried ganking a shaco heimerdinger :)))))? Literally a mine field, i dare you to get in the lane, and no support can engage on them

[@ericlin7775]

A local tournament in my city had one team doing that. Bot lane was basically never ganked but Shaco and Heimer's team in other lanes got obliterated.

[@Wohx_]

Aeneyes shaco support is bad

[@pekkapoutaseikkailee]

Zilean Orianna is a great botlane as long as the other lanes provide some consistent damage attack damage or in a case where the enemy doesn't have tanks. The early levels is basically farming/poking since both don't have that much mana to work with. After you get first back and lvl6 on both that is where the fun begins, you just Orianna ult the botlaner or the support if he is squishy, follow it with a Zilean double bomb and they die if they get hit by the shockwave. The lane can be prone to ganks before lvl6 and first back but it is still a really effective kill lane as soon as you get lvl 6 even if you fall behind because of an early mishap/gank since most of the time ppl won't flash the shockwave as they don't expect to be killed during the cc.

[@chiyaka867]

13. Jhin+Soraka Soraka's Q slows enemies for Jhin to root them, Soraka places E and they are rooted for an eternity = instant death. Soraka's heal is ridiculous, and there is no chance of Jhin dying (except when the Soraka is getting focused out). 14. Jhin+Yuumi This combo is basically the same as the one above.. xD

[@Vergburger]

Where is the Swain with any adc lol

[@Dutep]

What about Veigar + Syndra for the easy stun?

[@egpimp]

Pyke + Senna Huge sustain, pyke always has some stealth available to heal, hook combo into stun + root is very oppressive, near immunity to ganks due to cc and stealth

[@Rin-qj7zt]

swain and yuumi is really good. haven't met a matchup yet where you can proc yuumi's passive so often. also swain is usually limited by his ability to move and chase, which yuumi takes care of. and swain really doesn't need any more healing while using his ultimate either. it's kinda nuts when you get zekes, unholy grail, and redemption. throw in mikael's crucible if you need it. switch boots of pen with morellonomicon if you need it too. always get ludens. it helps charge unholy grail very quickly. q e w aa w q e r all day long.

[@RouletteKitten]

Yasuo and Zyra when they hit 6. Her ult does that knock up - I've used that tactic in ARAM when I've played Zyra and we have a Yasuo on our side. Even better if we have someone who can crowd slow or stun. Makes for a scary time for others.

[@dergerat9888]

jhin + swain is hilarious

[@Spider2B]

When I jhin I have the biggest grin when sup locks in swain

[@stjjnr980]

You cheese balls xd

[@KhadaJhin04]

Thresh too, once hooked you're dead but it's not too frustrating, insanely fun tho but that's just because I am a dedicated Jhin main and convinced myself he's good

[@slumberstudio4757]

did rioter that design yasuo, azir, and kaisa ever design a support champ?

[@94doodle]

I believe Yasuos designer also made Thresh, CertainlyT

[@Babigoldfish]

Akali remake

[@Cronovey]

The developer for Yasuo was CertainlyT, who made Thresh. He also helped make Zyra, who is more commonly played as a support than mid now. Azir's designer is the person who designed Tahm Kench. Kai'sa was designed by Jag, whose only other champion was Camille. Out of the three designers, two of them developed a champion meant for support with a third champion being shifted to that role later.

[@Moreganfreakman]

how i see the title : 12 bot lane duos you should play ! :D

[@dodoonice2636]

Draven and Nami have so a strong early pressure. ^^

[@sommertraum7473]

No matter the support, Draven always has high pressure in lane.

[@basvhout]

Xerath and Jhin is pretty fun @ level 6. You just get blased from under your turret. Also Xerath ult is a lot easier to hit when Jhin hits 1 shot of his ult.

[@stevengillet2770]

What about Jhin / Zyra ?

[@8BitNezu]

Me and my duo do Yuumi Ashe, constant poke and more damage then Ezeral. Plus Ashe can take barrier or tp as needed. While I take heal and ignite as Yuumi

[@jovanloncar1879]

You don't have Ezreal E to escape. Ez is far better then Ashe in this lane.

[@DjThaOwnage]

Swain Ashe, Swain Xerath, Yasuo Yuumi

[@devinjacquet5253]

I feel like someone already done this recently, I'm just not sure who...

[@Kassandru]

What about the best bot lane combo, Draven + Draven? Welcome to the League of Draven, baby!

[@leigh-jeanterblanche5833]

Draven and jhin , jhin hits them with q from minions , then he uses w and roots , draven goes in hard and both love themselves too much

[@XeroPrints]

Draven Nami is one I like playing and hate playing against. Nami E makes Draven hurt a lot, good sustain, CC from Nami Q for engage and disengage. Nami Yas is good too.

[@Mishigu]

How do you say yasuo + alistar is good when yasuo + gragas is a straight up better combo, so many people in grandmaster challenger are playing it, see it every day in soloq.

[@stjjnr980]

Kevin Kev ap + ad with 3 knock ups xdd

[@jovanloncar1879]

Yasuo Gragas now that just has no counterplay once they get rolling.

[@dr.strange5419]

Same with AP malphite, AP malphite is just broken. Literally impossible to dodge ult

[@Megaman-2407]

@@dr.strange5419 let play a game it call spot the bronze player and i have found it it was youuuuuu XD

[@dr.strange5419]

@@Megaman-2407 only way to dodge a malphite ult is with a flash and his ult AP ratios had to get nerfed for a reason. Looks like you're not just a bronze player but an illogical one too

[@tacopowervpg9946]

You should try Veigar ADC/Pyke Supp. More gold for Veigar so he gets to late game faster, try 600 ap at 20 minutes. Also, baby cage, then hook them into it.

[@MrPhilira]

Kinda off topic, but try to take a look at around 1:55 to 2:19 - watch how Morg can use Hourglass twice in that one fight, how the **** does she do that?

[@arthurerlandson4194]

zhonyas and bought a stopwatch

[@rubix4688]

I’m a morg main and the person I play with is a Caitlyn main and we duo bot lane and we are cancer

[@d0icheff]

Well,you basicly listed every bot lane duo above silver elo XD Great job

[@Aranisy]

Hey phy you shoul give ryze bot a try i usually play ryze blitz and it is op

[@Menotiom]

Heimer yuumi has to be the most tilting thing in diamond. I can literally never engage on them

[@schoric9034]

shaco + heimer :)))))))))))))

[@justhair17]

I just tried Garen Yuumi 2 days ago and its super fun

[@Vigilwake]

I have had trouble with is yumi + ashe slows for days making it hard to engage or disengage. and taric +sona

[@Megaman-2407]

really?ashe yummi of all thing you can pick any lock down champion and watch them ff 15

[@trantrung3931]

i really think kaisa leona or kaisa blitz is kinda better than nautilus. Especially the blitz, when u pull something back it easier for kaisa to do all kind of stuffs, especially having isolated q damage. Also, it is safer for a short range champ like kaisa.

[@xechidnax]

Morgana and Lux. Like, you’re dead. Dead.

[@dongkim5127]

Isnt yasuo plus gragas more frustrating than yas plus alistair?

[@triggeredtiger9905]

How about yasuo with rakan? I've played it, and it's disgusting

[@rzesz8107]

Kalista + Tresh/Alistar Triastana + Tresh/Alistar/Blitzcank Jhin + Vel'coz/Sion Yasuo + Gragas Yumi + Mundo/Nasus Ashe+ Fiddlestick

[@Gifted_Cow]

Jinx veigar is REALLY strong for reasons similar to vayne, jinx also has a better team fight

[@amirahani3196]

Be Up Vayne has a better team fight bro

[@marckruse1268]

@@amirahani3196 lol no xD vayne teamfighting is pretty much garbage level, her range and her unability to have aoe make her a shit teamfighter but her invisibility make her a far better duelist

[@amirahani3196]

Marc Kruse pls tell me ur trolling

[@amirahani3196]

Marc Kruse Vayne late game she pretty much 3 shots everyone cuz of her W true damage and her invisibility makes her so hard to focus

[@quintverkoeijen]

@@amirahani3196 Which is why she's a good duelist, not necessarily a good teamfighter.

[@deadman1823]

te other day i was playing with a friend who doesn't play support and we picked jhin and jarvan (he usually plays jarvan jg) and that was one of the best duos that you can imagine, good cc and stupid damage

[@Nickayyyy]

anyone realises he pronounces xayah and zyra the same way? i got so confused

[@juanpablorobayo9891]

Ah yes Married couples knock me off my groove!

[@drdrdtj6807]

Where is Leona? Leona beats up all those sups.

[@itsZiming]

I should definitely try the Vayne Veigar combo, it's gonna be nuts

[@dr.strange5419]

Draven Veigar is a better combo

[@Rep648]

Braum Tristana works similliar to Lucian she jumps Braum uses w shield. She gets free autos cuz she procs stun rly fast which works rly good with her e and jsut bursts everything

[@SentinelFRCE]

I've been playing Mordekaiser + Volibear with the all in lvl2 Voli flip into a guaranteed Morde grab.

[@pumpkinprincess3786]

nami draven, same idea as the jana draven one, the E gives extra dmg for 3aa, u get a heal and 2cc

[@TyalowX]

Xerath Jhin, this lane is pure terror

[@prtsn5]

I’m always playing asol on bot or supp really broken when u hit ur stun and u know to to position urself

[@shards8300]

Try playing vs ap malphite support and a blitz or thresh in preseason 10

[@kostasKazama]

good good good, but you forgot the best one mate MF + LEONA POGCHAMP

[@toastyanivia9044]

Yasuo + Any support who is tanky and has cc is annoying, played against a Yas Blitz lane recently as Ashe Naut, granted the Naut played poorly, but still I was unable to do anything in lane phase because of threat of being hooked and insta dying and Yas just wind walled all forms of egage, from my r to Nautilus hook and r

[@matteorighi4136]

I'd also like to mention 1. Ashe+Fiddle 2. Varus+Leona 3. Nautilus+ literally anything, damn rito take a look at that shit

[@BenBen-ks5ek]

How bout vayne + nami? Sivir + soraka?

[@kyousuke6902]

What about leona tristana?

[@nikolamilosavljevic9280]

Kalista thresh should be in here they are insanely safe and have good lane with a lot of kill pressure even from lv 1

[@forisekbalint]

u could put malphite and blitz next to yasou too almost the same.

[@n1ce608]

No ones going to talk about that lethal tempo thresh?

[@ConfettiBerg]

I see that thumbnail in my nightmares. also Vayne+Anivia

[@DemainaNyx]

Draven Veigar is pretty fun. At level 2 Veigar just puts a cage around the enemy ADC and Draven gets to basically free hit them. Enemy ADC is forced to fight which most of them will lose and the enemy support has to navigate around the cage to help with the fight. Draven can also use his E after to force the ADC to get pushed into the wall right behind the cage disappear for even more free hitting. It isn't as easy as Vayne's Condemn, but it works fairly well if the person playing Draven is good. Ashe Leona is another one I dread. With Ashe Volley, it basically sets up Leona's E every time. Leona just chain CC's and now you've won. When they are 6 the CC layering just increases and they can easily take out both enemy laners. As with Zyra, Leona's passive adds a ton of damage to their all in to make up for Ashe's lesser DPS, but Ashe makes it easy for Leona to stick to whoever she want so they'll dish out damage either way with the only option really being to try and fight them since you can't run away from all the slows and stuns. Jhin with a poke support is really good as well. I normally favor Karma or Morg but others can work like Zyra. Most of the mentioned supports have a large AOE ability they can use which Jhin can W off of. Once that W lands, it's easy for the support to chain the CC with their own, which is enough for Jhin to walk forward and finish off the kill. Obviously this type of lane can fall to an all in lane, but in most cases they have enough peel through slows and snares to escape.

[@trevorsreya8277]

It's already the day after this was uploaded, and no time stamps?

[@xinahliaofthefeywild8985]

My brother played Naut+Mordekaiser(adc)... it worked. (Penta's)

[@gasolina8223]

I have a few. Vayne ADC Anivia Support Twitch ADC Anivia Support. Anivia APC Karma Support. Notice how they all have Anivia.

[@eanmichael8898]

You uh, forgot kai'sa leona. Who with leona proccing all of her stuns, can give kai'sa 3 passive stacks along with kai'sa just auto attacking anyways.

[@mauer1]

Well Leona is like Nautilus just weaker on her own I guess.

[@Buddahmonk]

MF Leona is strong I think

[@mauer1]

@@Buddahmonk It is, because you can auto proc leonas passive with mf e which also slows so leona can hit e's easier. But it doesnt compare to Kaisa + Naut damage because it is too much synergy reliant. Naut is a strong dude on his own and so is kaisa. MF isnt that good on her own and Leona also.

[@quynguyenduy12]

the thresh sena combo

[@cuppleschristopher]

Love me some Syndra/Thresh

[@blanketman6470]

phy: OMFG!!! I HATE THIS.....Im gonna make a video about this so people know my suffering during bad games

[@stjjnr980]

Veigar support is pretty annoying... my adc got tilted and we lost the game

[@miguelmonteiro3899]

Karma is such an underated champ

[@Wuselchan]

love to play / hate to play against which wasn't mentioned: Ashe + Nauti, Pyke, Thresh, Leona, Morgana, Soraka Tristana + Yuumi, Leona, Nautilus Kai'Sa + Nauti, Nami MF + Leona, Nauti, Pyke Jinx + Blitz, Thresh, Nauti, Leona Twitch + Pyke, Shaco, Nauti, Veigar Xayah + Morgana, Karma, Nauti Kalista + Thresh Jhin + Swain Yasuo + Yuumi, Gragas, Malphite Shen + Yuumi Heimer + Blitz, Fiddle Syndra + Thresh currently spamming Ashe in Solo/Duo Queue and whenever I got a decent team (no feeder or afkler), it's usually a win unless objectives are ignored. Ashe is such a good champ at the moment, especially with an engaging champion, although with a poking support who actually knows what they do, it's a free lane too.

[@georgekourie4031]

Soooooo you hate bot lane?

[@Wuselchan]

@@georgekourie4031 I'm main ADC :3

[@LoLFirestorm]

As a vayne main seeing vayne veigar listed rather than vayne nami offends me. Vayne veigar is just pure cheese and has the fatal flaw in the fact that if the enemy walks into the veigar wall while condemn is midair condemn will override cage rather than the other way around, pushing that enemy far out of your range. Vayne nami on the other hand is very reliable and has a similar effect to what you pointed out in braum lucian - it turns vayne into a strong laner with an insane 3 auto trade. Nami also amplifies lucian's trading in the same way but you already had braum lucian listed.

[@giannis7977]

You forgot heima fiddle

[@marckruse1268]

yasuo gragas is actually WAY stronger than ali yasuo, cause tehy actually have insane killthread in lane, alistar offers pretty little, also gragas r is far mor reliable and does not need full commitment

[@eidbawalsah9305]

Swain Senna Alistar Kalista Pyke Draven Pyke Twitch Nami Vayne

[@TK-dc6fb]

As a Kog'Maw main, I wish more players played Lulu... :(

[@GameBreaker1055]

Kog'maw is dead if he gets hooked until Lulu has her ult and even than it's close with all the CC chains that inhabitate botlane. Not to mention how easy it is to poke Kog'Maw. So even if Lulu is the best support to buff Kog'Maw, she is hardly the one that keeps him in the game. (Though jungle presence might help, of course)

[@RaffiTheQuokka]

Morgana/Veigar and Anivia/Veigar ,are my hate lanes botlane, don't see it alot but so strong

[@perunajons]

heimer + blitz bot lane is impossible to lane against, pushes you under tower and hooks you into heimer turrets

[@CaptainTrashRat]

Better bring those dings boy

[@wee3ist]

Suprised that zyra jhin isn't mentioned

[@Colaschnittchen]

when you basicly play 1 vs 3 because your adc/support donated his brain to alcohol

[@thatturbonerd324]

Jhin Morgana lane is missing imo. The fighting power of that lane is kinda absurd

[@9yearoldarmy588]

I’m rlly offended there is no missfortune here, she can do well with supports like Leona or morgana or even Soraka, her only problem is escape routes if the jungler is ganking

[@MrRomanianTroller]

I see you follow ProGuides as well 😂😂

[@overpoweredsoap5906]

2:05 How did Morgana zhonyas twice? Is it urf or something?

[@Pyrrha_Nikos]

Zonhyas + Stopwatch

[@overpoweredsoap5906]

@@Pyrrha_Nikos Oh those don't share Cooldowns? Alright, thank you. I haven't played competitively in awhile.

[@Pyrrha_Nikos]

@@overpoweredsoap5906 Nope, Stopwatch is a one time use Zonhyas, so it has no cooldown

[@applejuicenpeach]

me and my friend have this very odd strat that we pretty much always do if we're duo bot. She goes Veigar, I go mf. We both take dark harvest. Veigar e+ mf ult=gaurented kill or their flash, however, ult isnt always needed since both are naturally very strong. I generally get fed, with veigar also doing well, possibly a few kills to his name. We have pretty much never lost lane. Interesting combo. If Veigar is banned/picked, nami and mf work too, just not as much kill pressure unless I have ult.

[@Stefan_693]

Miss fortune + leona is broken

[@James-cm1fh]

Xayah w was nerfed so much tho

[@IceIsak]

not the +20% dmg increase part.

[@savatarx99]

Do 12 top laners you hate playing against

[@Buddahmonk]

Morg and Jhin... W+W followed by Morg q