Marcus "Swagu" Spears from NFL to Analyst Talks Cowboys, Celtics & Growth as a Man | Pivot Podcast

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Former Dallas Cowboys defensive lineman Marcus Spears a.k.a “Swagu” joins The Pivot Podcast for a candid conversation covering his faith in God to pressures experienced while playing for the Cowboys to the expectations faced by sports analysts and the challenges men encounter through temptation.
Ryan, Channing and Fred get right into it with Marcus, talking tough topics of late including the Brett Favre scandal, Ime Udoka suspension and current state of the Cowboys team.
Receiving negative feedback as ESPN analysts for not speaking on the Favre situation, Ryan explains how it’s not his job as a host on a football show to talk about a former player’s off the field business- agreeing with Marcus that as football analysts it’s their job to cover what’s going on with players and football teams who play on Sundays. Which brings them to cover the current state of his former team the Dallas Cowboys and the rare play of number 11, Micah Parsons who is on pace to be one of the best, if not the best defensive players the sport has ever seen.
Avoiding speculation and understanding that not all the details are public, the guys talk about the Boston Celtics troubling situation involving the head coach and the shadow or casts for the organization, players and fans. And as men of color in power and positions of success, Marcus struggles to understand how and why people fall into these situations to lose everything they’ve worked for over temptation. Channing, Ryan and Fred all agree but also aren’t naive to the actions that led to Udoka’s suspension and the effect it has on the black community, especially females who looked to his partner Nia Long as a queen in their world. The men dive into a deep conversation of infidelity and Marcus opens up about how he is now in a place that he would never go down that road again.
Working together currently as co hosts at ESPN, Ryan’s relationship with Marcus stems back to first meeting him during his time at LSU where he admired Marcus for being a stand out tight end and knew him as one of the best young basketball players in the nation too.
Although stardom was familiar to Marcus, transitioning from college to first round pick of the Dallas Cowboys was challenging on many levels. The guys talk about pressures faced by being drafted early and the environment created by high profile owners such as Jerry Jones and what it’s like to play with a star on your helmet. Marcus shares Joe being deeply rooted in his faith was the only thing that kept him afloat during his career. Admittedly, as a former player and now ESPN analyst- Marcus speaks truthfully that he feels Jerry Jones is intrusive and adds stress to his players.
Sharing his most pivotal moment and impact as a man, Marcus touches on his family. Self-aware of how he’s become successful, he pays homage to all those who have cared about him and believed in him along the journey such as his sister, Deidre Spears and how her emotional journey had inspired him the most.
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[@dalewatkins2453]

Shannon Sharpe on this would be a fire episode 🔥

[@lakesia7827]

I totally agree!!!!

[@wadesloan3251]

Unc shay shay n channing 🤣🤣

[@laurenp6818]

I wonder if he doesn't come on because he has his own podcast? I would love to see him on here too. Been asking.

[@cuSTEMJourneys]

Bruh, this is the episode we need next! Please, let’s make it happen

[@kidbuufatkid7287]

Shannon sharpe be watching the pivot too. Make it happen fosho.

[@MrOhioPlayer]

Channing Is evolving into an award winning host. The way he can be his authentic self and balance his sense of humor with thought provoking questions at the same damn time is top tier. The Pivot is next level

[@Justaguy397]

Yea man truly

[@pastorsalis2516]

Great point. I was just thinking this.

[@donaldprevost8826]

I agree totally with Channing on what’s better than the woman you with is new 🐱. That’s one of the 💯% truest statement he has said.

[@deejames5778]

I'M SOOOO GLAD YOU SAID IT SWAGU!!! The only thing that will make a man not cheat is HIMSELF!!!

[@bahamaduke]

That is the very heart of the matter. It is a hard core decision. Real men learn it early in the game and men seeking to be better mature to that knowledge. It is encouraging and reinforcing when the sisters chime in with the strong message endorsement. Be blessed fine woman.

[@kom072692]

Remember a married woman cheated with him as well… stop acting like women are anymore loyal than men lol

[@travonmanning-wc7lx]

😮🎉e

[@chuckstercam]

Ryan Clark just dropped an absolutely dime. "Everybody only identifies a person they disagree with, instead of identifying that they disagree, those things are different" let that settle in your heart and mind. This why I love this podcast. My boi swagu is awesome, I been watching him since he got on tv. Thats my guy, he hasnt changed and has always remained himself.

[@zacharymoss9993]

100%

[@algil820]

That was a great quote

[@TheJeffster86]

100 my boy!!!

[@fizzlepope]

The chemistry these dudes have is so unique, amazing role models

[@723taylorjharris]

They ain’t gonna fuck you

[@Adetokunbo03]

Amazing spoken models

[@mylaughingeffect3459]

“ how much did u keep away from me, that could’ve kill me” swagu. Man U are special man🐐. I love this dude!

[@taiwosogbesant5990]

Get Swagu on this show more often, all of them got real good chemistry

[@rearends79]

I wanna go on record, I’m only 43 and I love Freddy Flowers! I adore all y’all! I love when Chan just goes into full Chan mode! And Ryan keeps things flowing. Y’all are the Perfect balance of humor, wisdom and depth. I love positive black men who show utmost respect for each other and keep it real! We need the black men to keep showing us a different narrative!! 👏🏽

[@hull9181]

I feel the same big homie

[@sidneyhill7064]

100%

[@tyishawooten7655]

Right

[@nophilter]

Well said

[@hopemcgee1003]

Samee I’m 23 and love me some Freddy 👀🤣😜

[@bigboionabike5234]

The last 10 minutes is GOLD. “ I don’t cheat because I don’t want to”.

[@Unclekoze]

Man I didn’t think I would relate to Marcus like I did. This is why I watch the pivot man. Y’all always some of the most open conversations for people like me to relate to from afar && learn more about how to handle situations & becoming more understanding of other peoples situations we may never know. Positive energy always radiates from y’all man. Much appreciated for every episode🤝🏾

[@kernalbert4939]

Yo. Thanks for sharing, bro!

[@katrinawashington8176]

Loved it great interview totally agree with your comment

[@darkvder0311]

With the Ime Udoka situation. As my pops always told me "You don't $hit where you eat".

[@kevingeorge9727]

Swaggu had me cracking up laughing trying to stop Channing from using the derogatory anatomical term. It takes Ryan, Freddie and the guest to keep Channing on the rails.

[@Shemzinho]

Swagu spitting facts. Cheating is a choice and getting into a monogamous relationship/marriage isn't going to change that. You gotta make that decision to not entertain your options. It's either you get tired or you just enjoy peace.

[@ummof2167]

Nope Channing the young ladies love and appreciate Fred as well I’m 40 and it’s Freddie’s flowers swag and that calming voice ❤❤❤❤❤ and shout out to RC and Channing we love y’all too hands 🙌🏾 hands down this is the best damn podcast out here 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@EarthAngel215]

Tell 'em gurrl! Principles before personalities. Everyone ain't down with Channing's SHENANIGANS 😂🤣👀 FREDDY T ANY DAY!!!

[@candacebrown3014]

We love Fred! ...and I ain't 70! Thank you for your wisdom and for being unapologetically you! We are all going to cheer for you and your family when you make it into the HoF. RC and Channing, y’all better be nice to Fred.

[@thegasreport623]

The cross part in Marcus Spears beard ... ELITE!! 🔥

[@vittiriowashington5211]

I was just thinking this comment

[@Shemzinho]

Swagu is the realest analyst out there; can't wait to see what Channing says lol EDIT: he's started already ''your husband just died'' 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@evanjones593]

He needs to try doing stand up ASAP.

[@adgee5401]

😭

[@warrenwashington609]

Chan is a whole mess

[@chuckstercam]

I almost choked when he said that. Chan wildin, dude is too funny.

[@sterlt.2836]

💀💀💀 Chan funny as hell

[@bcpkccable]

“I’m just a reflection of the people that cared about me” Wow that’s was too real💯

[@DB__5]

This episode was a classic. Perfect amount of wisdom, knowledge of the Swagu career/life, and funny! 😂😂 we need part 2

[@JBthe3rd]

This right here is one of the best conversations I’ve ever seen! 👍🏽 Great example of successful black men! Gained a new level of respect for Swagu! This new black media wave of talent is insane! ❤

[@jrp7830]

I agree

[@shaunjax]

One of the realist conversations thus far! Salute. Swaggu never lets me down! Thank you

[@deadly1ceawoken926]

Swagu is a cool cat man. Love this dude. You can tell the way he commentates on sports and stuff, he’s a good dude. But this interview just pushes that more. I would get along real good with this man. Much respect!

[@deonpowe9259]

Swagu did a good job of speaking on Malika w/o really answering the question! Media savvy is on point.

[@rlove2244]

Channing is hilarious!. His timing on certain topics is pure gold.

[@BlackTrunksPodcast]

I See The Pivot Podcast, I Click. Simple! 💯

[@D_A_Marv]

I love how their guests give them their flowers in the beginning all the time. The camaraderie between these men during their episodes is so positive. They ask their questions and listen to their guest. It is refreshing!! Respect gentlemen 👏🏽👏🏽

[@kidbuufatkid7287]

“You start smoking crack and your path will be messed up”- Guru Channing Crowder. I have been blessed with this gem today

[@AdrianDJack]

This is a great episode! Swagu is walking in his purpose.

[@cornell5454]

Wow I literally just commented that y’all should have him last week. I guess Fred really does read all the comments 😂

[@harrisonmontgomery255]

I have watched this episode twice. The wisdom that Marcus speaks is priceless. Thank you RC, Channing and Fred for having the best show on all media platforms.

[@Bkfolson]

Refreshing to see Spears faith and being humble. Respect for him being an intern and starting at the bottom.

[@sirmiguel6331]

Another solid interview. Marcus "Swagu" Spears is a real. Mad respect to him and the entire Pivot team. You guys get better and better with each interview. 🙏🏾💯💯💪🏾

[@antoineprayer5438]

Yo, I was literally watching espn earlier and wondering when Marcus Spears will appear on The Pivot! Man, life is good

[@trvlpreneursportspodcast]

I miss Marcus on the SEC Network. This was a dope show

[@keljerel]

Straight up forgot that he started out there. He was so good with Tim Tebow.

[@jt3257]

Channing is crazy as hell. Love this dude!!!

[@DeeDee-ik9yg]

RC: If you can't say vagina, what can... Channing: COOHIE👀 Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That damn Channing!!😂😂 We can always count on Channing for a much needed burst of laughter!😆 OAN, GREAT sit-down!👏🏾 The honest conversations, transparency, different outlooks/thoughts/opinions that make the viewer respect and see things differently all make this a great. Then add in the chemistry with a dash of entertainment and laughs.... Maaan, thee best recipe ever!👏🏾👊🏾

[@tyclavin6356]

I just want to say thank you for the show. I listen to every one, and each person you have on I can't help but admire and respect moving forward. Freddy T, your calmness and perspective is absolutely appreciated. You lead by example; such a great trait. Channing, you got that spirit for life that the world needs; i'm just not going on vacation with you. And RC, you represent yourself, family, profession so well. Best show out there, not a podcast.

[@bahamaduke]

Extremely well said. Not ever going on a Channing kind of vacation either....too funny. These brothers got me every episode, and I am not a fan of podcasts.

[@chocolategirl443]

You summed it up well

[@keljerel]

Ooo…I knew Swagu was going to be on here eventually because he and RC are cool, but I wasn’t expecting him today. We starting the weekend off right!!!

[@kennethchalmers6559]

There both played at LSU that’s why there are cool

[@PastorRogerLane]

I love how open they were talking about Faith.

[@jerrellrevels5309]

Man I promise you in all my life and watching sports, sports shows, radio, and podcasts, you guys are the absolute Cream of the Crop. Man this episode has blessed me. RC, Freaky Fred, and Big Red Crowder y’all keep Grinding and Growing

[@layla2878]

Love how all 3 guy’s balance each other out

[@juliuscameron1010]

Channing is so funny man I swear 😂 😂😂

[@codew2467]

My name for him is FT. I love Fred Taylor. Channing, do not stop being you. A rare breed, you are. And RC, consummate professional. Collectively, you rock!!!

[@davidhicks7927]

This is real athlete. Sides we don’t ever see. It’s amazing how you open up when kicking with your boys.

[@michaelmay7145]

This is arguably the best show. Swagu was real especially when talk about his sister. Kept it real. Loved the show. Even Chan was calm.

[@ronwilliams5907]

I think we all have a genuine love for Marcus Spears. If I met him on the street, I would walk up to him and hug him. Unique analyst and great personality. Keep p your great work in all you do.

[@mr.worldfree3333]

I would like to see them Interview Alan Page. Former Minnesota Viking, and Hall of Famer. He went to law school while play football in the 70's and eventually became Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court. He retired in 2015, and in 2018 was awarded The Presidential Medal Of Honor

[@EarthAngel215]

The demographics would not support this. I've been a sports fan since the 60s. Unfortunately, nobody's interested. Minnesota Vikings? SMDH

[@Red-lu3ku]

The Pivot is my favorite podcast and I love the interactions with their guests.

[@MoneyClipsSports]

show gets better everytime another great at the table nothing wrong with showing love keep it going pivot 💯✊🏽

[@kbrown6819]

Man these brothers have captured lightning in a bottle. Damn this is good. ❤

[@MoneyClipsSports]

@@kbrown6819 🎯

[@aaronwalker9472]

We need a part 2! Swagu get DEEEEEP and gives of plenty of knowledge & drops gems. Love Swag

[@TreyCabble]

Channing a damn kid😂😂😂my boy couldn’t help himself but laugh

[@natashaharper601]

Channing NEVER let’s me down😂😂😂😂…. I love the Pivot!!!

[@sbaoriginalman]

Peace...Mr. Channing Crowder has no filter!!! He is a straight fool!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!

[@lawrencedaniels555]

With all the adults on the show, it really needs Channing and his mature immaturity.

[@ReelBlockpictures]

This show is one of my favorite shows I’m not a sports and never been but when I found the other show it made me tune in and then when the pivot happened I made my pivot thank you guys for keep pushing because you inspired me to do the same 3Kings of the pivot

[@bobbydigital8856]

Channing cracking up when RC said "vagina" was funny af.

[@richmonroe2930]

TheBig Swagu in the House on the pivot real talk 🎙🎙🎙🎙

[@lavondajohnson7554]

I SCREAMED DO LOUD when I saw Marcus was going to be on hear and this episode was 🔥🔥🔥🔥His Faith love for his Wife and family is Awesome loved this conversation 💪🏾👏🏾🌠😋

[@GB-bw2lq]

Chan and Swag’s interactions were hilarious lol. THIS pod is amazing.

[@stephengiese7549]

This man should preach. He has a distinctive voice and he truly believes. He found another career in something he knows about.

[@jordanlogan2354]

I wake up everyday to see if it’s a new episode…. Y’all boys don’t let me down!!!!! Anybody can podcast but Anybody can’t Pivot or whatever!!!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@LgndLex24]

I’ve always liked Swagu now I like him even more now! Great episode!!

[@Houstonera]

57:00 moral of the story “Don’t shit , where you eat”

[@laurenp6818]

Well Said

[@widelyhorace8533]

This is one really really solid interview. You guys get the right guests and have the right conversations about REAL topics. Y’all cover so much reality but also throw in some humor to make the show even more interesting is just an amazing thing. I love what you got are doing with it all, Freddy T, Channing and RC you guys are killin the game. Keep it up! 💯💪🏾

[@reneruiz5871]

That’s a fact when Marcus said internalizing others expectations causes the mental health issues. I know about that.

[@OptimisticKTV]

One of the best episodes yet! SWAGU has really come on here and dropped the gems. His FAITH is infectious! GOD is doing great work through this man!

[@thomasellebie8588]

I appreciate the way RC facilitates the discussion to make it inclusive.

[@makeHimknown3]

Unc is always on POINT when he said "They want to put the Shine before the Grind" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@lashun1901]

Happy Friday Pivot & Pivoters. Let's Get It Leggo'★☆★☆★

[@ShareeffDeLaCruz]

Literally that last part about people looking for them to bring joy and laughter. That’s me every morning. Not having a father, uncles around. I see those guys as my family. Lol true story. It brings joy! Thank you Pivot!

[@jemmaalsalaam6062]

Talk about Fred all y'all want....I love that man because he thinks first before he speaks 🤗

[@shantayjackson7509]

I love Swagu!! Glad y’all did this interview. Watch NFL Live because of Marcus Spears. Love the PIVOT! Channing is my fav and always keeps me laughing. Love You RC and Freddy T. Keep up the Good Work Guys. Y’all are the BEST!!!!!!!!!!

[@godbody9502]

Wow!!!Wow!!!Wow!!! Real People Do Real Things!!! Words can’t explain!!! Keep Being Youtiful Fellas!! 💯 💪🏾

[@cristianhernandez8667]

Channing I be listening to the pivot while working out, then all the sudden you say some wild shit, ruining my set and choking with my saliva cus you making me laugh

[@D_A_Marv]

You're not the only one. I've learned to not be eating or drinking while Channing goes off on a tangent with his freakiness, but I love him!!!

[@Rodnyet]

Not even 10 mins in and ya boy Channing got me rolling 🤣🤣. Another great interview fellas and Sawgu was definitely preaching facts. By the way his thoughts on Jerry Jones is on point and the Cowboys will never win again as long as he thinks he can be the owner, coach and GM.

[@kjyoung2314]

This show is so epic and true. Three real hosts with charisma and chemistry plus the immaculate guest list. New favorite of mine.

[@kimwiggins9655]

Love the faith conversation ❤🙌🏾

[@marcsydell8391]

Another amazing sit down with baby great dude. Everyone needs a Channing in they're life !! Dude is hilarious 😂

[@PeachCobblerGobbler]

Really never miss and i am so thankful

[@KenRawA]

The Pivot IS THE BEST. Chemistry is unreal! Love watching you guys.

[@thecookster23]

This podcast always starts with a bunch of people taking a nice smooth road trip and then Channing turning it into an F1 race

[@EarthAngel215]

Yesss! Channing's SHENANIGANS hey me every time.

[@nicolemoore746]

Man this one right here.. is my favorite out of all interviews.. I love Swagu.. He always keeps it 💯 I would have love sitting there in the room for this interview. This interview should have been 2 hours😂🤣 Keep it going .. I’m so glad y’all started this podcast.. I love it and I’m here for it all.. Thank You So Much!! Channing, omg… I can’t with you but I love it.. and by the way I’m 49 and I think Fred T is hot 😍😍😍..☺️

[@kayjay5143]

That Ryan can PIVOT a conversation so smoothly!!

[@aj2kj615]

Glad Swagu said laid this one out...."we" approach to many things with emotion rather than logic .....well said 👏🏾

[@cpeezy02]

This was fucking great. Swagu is the man. Love seeing him on espn. Brings a much needed vibe to any show he's on

[@snopek78]

There's so many hidden gems in this interview

[@wegotthis247]

We need to look at our family for our hero and example of keep going through all circumstances

[@undisputedtruth4954]

This might be y'alls best episode to date, and only a former COWBOYS player could come thru and deliver like that! Channing is f*n hilarious, RC is Mr. Professionalism, and Fred is the fulcrum upon which the scales balance.

[@jeremyisaac512]

Spears was DOPE ,great INTERVIEW.

[@bahamaduke]

Awesome, that was intense, deep, meaningful and transformative. "The Pivot" raises the bar. Totally next level relevant and timely content. This is great fine art 🎨. A platform where quality guests selection and conversation produce an insightful, inspiring, hilarious, and enriching work of wonderful art. You are totally killing it.

[@clevelandknight1094]

I like when Ryan just started shaking his head when Fred said Nia Long

[@jodykessly8696]

Nothing but RESPECT for Marcus Spears!!!!!

[@erniebyrd1244]

I watched all of your Podcast..well the Pivot. The pivot of life. I’m in the US Army and I must say your show is helping me pivot with the things I’m drastically going on life..Big ups to Freddy T, RC and Chan!! Most respect!!

[@DP-lx1jn]

Only three minutes in and I’m dyin laughin. Love this podcast. Easy to Tell y’all are genuinely good dudes and enjoy each other’s company.

[@muhfkajones]

Watching my fellow Louisiana brothers doing big things is truly a great thing to witness! Watching brothers come from Louisiana and go on to success is crazy bc this isn't a place that's easy to come out of. Most of us here work at the plants or work construction. So to show my son all these guys who come from this place and can be successful is a great great thing. Contine to pivot fellas 💪🏿

[@stockxchange5787]

The Movie was Troy RC! I’ve been waiting on this episode as well. The realist of the real in one setting! Keep pushing for the world! I can’t wait for my opportunity to join the set. See you all in the near future 💪🏾✊🏾❤️

[@xbrelawx1280]

Love what you guys doing!! Fred T , Channing and Rc and real role models. I'm from Duval so I already love Freddy but the life lessons and wisdom you guys drop on here is amazing!!! Thank you guys so much!! Your content gives hope and inspiration to people you don't even know. God Bless y'all 💯💯✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

[@pierreblack1214]

Another amazing episode The Pivot!! I really look forward to y’all every week I love y’all Ryan, Freddy & Channing! ❤️

[@quedadddy]

I'm watching this episode now as I type. First let me give y'all your flowers!!! Y'all are BLESSED!!!! Man y'all got Channing new teeth, leg crossed and now he asking thoughtful questions like Fred 😆 🤣 😂. He still got questionable bathing habits but hell some things you can't change 😆. R.C. FRED CHANNING Y'ALL KEEP SETTING THE BAR!!!

[@anthonybowie8965]

SWAGU IS A MAN'S MAN!!! BLESSINGS SWAGU!