Chit Pull Games | Monthly Debrief S3E9 | September 2023 | The Players' Aid

[@hermannluttmann1637]

Thanks for the kind words, gents! Great video.

[@ThymeKeeper]

I used to do a lot of woodworking and could have made my own table, but I have had some injuries and can't use most power tools safely anymore. I'm also not going to spend thousands of dollars on a commercial game table. My table is a door blank sitting across two 2x2 Kallax units and that works VERY well for me :).

[@grantkleinhenz6789]

Whatever works! My table isn't nearly as large but works for me as well.

[@WargamesHobbyTime]

Thank you for a wonderful 2 hours. It was as if I were sitting with you at this beautiful new table :)

[@davidoduffy6168]

Wow! Am in awe of your table. A table that fits It Never Snows is just the dream. Basically will fit most games I'd want to play. Living the dream. Hats off to John.

[@robertmoffitt1336]

The TABLE! 9x5!!!!!!!!😮 Father-in-Law John, Hand Salute!!🫡 45 square feet of war gaming happiness!!! Father-in-Law John is now a war gaming legend. "If you build it, they will play a really big war game on it." There's war games, and then there's "Normie" games -> games for normal people.😄 Hermann Luttmann has the THREE Fs of war. Fog, friction & fortune. There is also the four Fs of combat. Find em', fix em', flank em' & finish em'.

[@coyi51]

Really enjoy the monthly reviews as time passes faster than normal. Glad you enjoyed your trip to NKG, as I enjoyed your uploads. Love chit pull games, especially when trying to bluff your way through a game with units you cannot activate during your turn. Many thanks.

[@strelnikoff1632]

You're gonna love On To Richmond

[@andrisimusmaximus5803]

Love your channel!

[@sawtoothbarbie9903]

An oldie, but a good one, is Across 5 Aprils (Victory Games, Eric Lee Smith, 1992).

[@cardboardconflicts]

Oh man At Any Cost Metz is SOOOOO good! After reading A Day of Battle, about Mars-La-Tour and Gravelotte/St Privat I think the system really catches a lot of crazy command issues of that battle/war. Underrated game and under appreciated conflict in the annuals of war history. PLAY IT NOW!!!!

[@bibleboardgames]

Thank you! A table video sounds interesting! I have space downstairs and thinking of putting my tavern-looking table down there. It is about 3x6 and I could build a larger table on top.

[@Khornishman]

Envious of that table.

[@alanshackelford6450]

Definitely do a table video.

[@FallenDominionStudiosLLC]

Jon here, thank you gentlemen! Look forward to the play through! Keep on rockin’ it!

[@cardboardconflicts]

A couple easy ones for newbies: Brave Little Belgium/White Eagle Defiant point to point very light but fun. Celles is a great Bulge game with lots of tank manuvering! Fantastic intro also!

[@BrianMarcus-nz7cs]

Wow enthusiasm,u have been enjoying yourself haven't u !?, Very Entertaining Video, was hoping u got some Heroes of Normandy kit to share with your thoughts!!!!!! I've realized there's an overwhelmingly amount of quality games out there, daunting, ta. 👍

[@michaelboyd38]

Great video! Totally envious of the table. You guys really should give By Iron and Blood a try! It's quite a gem and deserves the recognition!

[@ThePlayersAid]

We had the initial WDG edition but the printing and colours were a struggle to read. So hoping to play the new BP version.

[@michaelboyd38]

@@ThePlayersAid I had the original version too, liked it so much I actually bought a copy of the second edition. The color changes to the counter and slightly bigger map do make a big difference! Anyway, play it sometime! I'd love to see what you guys think.

[@RottenJeeves]

Another great video. It is hard not to buy every game you mention. You guys have a lot of love for a LOT of games. :)

[@ThePlayersAid]

Hopefully it comes across that you don't need everything, but there IS something *for* everyone, if that makes sense? [=

[@hughjoseph-hussain5800]

Always love the natural conversations between you two

[@paulsinn]

Love the chit pull mechanic. Bought Panzer Command , The Gateway to Stalingrad based on cover art and was floored by the mechanic, early on (80's) had almost no one to play wargames with and it really enabled solo at least for me. Will hold you to seeing Jaws of Victory on the table.

[@GrandPa_BBQer_Game_Cat]

Meant on shelf behind you now that I'm further into video.

[@bibleboardgames]

Probably going to add Chit Pull to one of my games. Here are some options that I can see so far. Any others? - Adds more Randomness other than just dice rolls - if the chits have people on them, it randomizes when they come into the game. - If the chits are types of units it randomizes what you get, but does not dictate when historical people come into the game. - Good for the bot in Solo or Cooperative - Fog of War as it hides what is coming before it comes - Continue Fog of War if chits have 1 side empty and are only revealed to opponents during the attack or if scouted. - Can randomize Supplies - Add Misc events - Add attributes that you could place on top of other chits - Can help new war gamers with having too many options.

[@j_atkinson]

I don't think I've ever played a "chit pull" game in the way you've described. However, I enjoy tactical combat games that use chit pull to apply combat results to units like Conflict of Heroes or Thunderbolt Apache Leader/Sherman Leader.

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

Yes, red box and a victory cuz games do have you draw a supply chit and it makes a difference!

[@brucewachtler9093]

I’m basically a solo gamer and agree that chit pull can make a number of games solo friendly. I have Kaiserkrieg and enjoy that game. Just picked up Global war and will play that soon. Also picked up the new versions of both Hapsburg Eclipse and Ottoman Sunset. Both look and play great. So glad these out of print games have been redone and released again.

[@fredwmanzo8580]

For those interested in solitaire games I’d suggest “Crowbar: The Rangers at Pointe du Hoc”, which was designed by Hermann Luttmann and published by a Flying Pig games.

[@kenc9236]

Noble Knight games is an awesome company.

[@silentdibs]

As you may have seen elsewhere, chit pull games on Tunisia and Korea just came out in a magazine in Japan (as well as Sekigahara, a 17th c Sengoku battle!)

[@flaviusbelisarius3240]

Reds! from GMT / Ted Raicer has supply chits. Fun game.

[@schrankp]

Reds! is a great game.

[@Jackdaw5]

Great video. I've never played a chit pull game, although I've got GMT Hoplite on order, which has a chit pull activation instead of the more usual GBOH command system. Errata sheet: Hammer of the Scots should be English v Scots, not 'British'. Falklands War should be 1982 not 1988

[@grantkleinhenz6789]

Not bad to only have 2 errors in a 2 hour video! I am pleased with that.😂🤣

[@e-4airman124]

we love you Grant😄

[@Michel_Vanaken]

The deadly woods, when you live in the area, the map makes you run away 😕

[@ThePlayersAid]

As in, it's not geographically accurate?

[@Michel_Vanaken]

@@ThePlayersAid Yeah. Wrong names to start with. Berg Reuland? Seriously? I know it might look like small details, but for me it means that not even a basic check was made on this.

[@ThePlayersAid]

@@Michel_Vanaken Shame, because the system is excellent. I'll still play it at some point, but good to know. Did Ted ever give any justification for it?

[@Michel_Vanaken]

@@ThePlayersAid Exactly. I loved The Dark Summer.

[@Davenholm]

Watching this why playing 300 E@W on Rally the Troops !

[@ThymeKeeper]

I greatly prefer cards to chits. They are more practical. Cards can be sleeved. Chits get lost easier or often get worn out.

[@fredwmanzo8580]

“A Most Fearful Sacrifice” has cards and it won Game of the Year from bothe “The Players Aid” AND the Charles S Robert’s awards.

[@BroockPhilipp]

For now I'm only playing pax pamir on rally the troops, cause I'm too lazy to learn another rules. Hope to bump into you on Afghanistan fields :) Also they running pre-order campaign for localization of John Company in my country right now, really looking forward for this one.

[@davidhall9407]

Love your conversations! How do you remember so many rules? What's your secret?

[@ThePlayersAid]

Practice. Also, i don’t remember all games perfectly, and many games have commonality.

[@dr3putt62]

John Company sings @ 4-6 players!

[@grantkleinhenz6789]

We had a blast at 4 players. We are trying to get a 6 player game sometime in November.

[@dr3putt62]

@@grantkleinhenz6789 so cool…. Our local con has a 5 player JoCo game scheduled

[@ekted]

I fast forwarded a little. I didn't see you put up Cataclysm, and didn't hear you mention it in passing. It's chit-pull of actions and incoming units.

[@ThePlayersAid]

I did mention it in passing, but also, I no longer have it on my shelves.

[@silentdibs]

Thanks for the mention, I know the game didn’t suit you.

[@seanmulroy6897]

wasn't on the road trip to NKG Atlantic chase in the car ? now it's back on the shelf ?

[@ThePlayersAid]

Yes, we kept my copy and sold Grant's. We're trying to pare down what we have between us (to accommodate more XD )

[@seanmulroy6897]

knew had to be reason , cheers @@ThePlayersAid

[@timmeyspankey]

Blind Swords ACW is great! GMT needs to reprint At Any Cost! I don't feel like paying $100 for it second hand lol

[@ThymeKeeper]

Mons was picked up by Compass I believe.

[@jonclark299]

Would love a video of game table, I'm working on a table myself. Would love to see the features. GMT needs to reprint At Any Cost! I don't feel like paying $100 for it second hand !

[@daykz69]

A wee reminder, Falklands was 1982 not 1988.

[@782hrr]

I want to make A Time for Trumpets chit pull…any advise on research sources

[@richardzajic172]

Hm...Now I can see Heights of Courage in the shelf! My favourite SCS game! :)

[@ThePlayersAid]

Unplayed!

[@PatricksTacticsTutorials]

Thanks for the shout-out! If I can be of any assistance helping you learn the GCACW system, don't hesitate to ask. 🙂 Looking forward to your reactions.

[@charleslatora5750]

My first chit game: Across 5 Aprils. So great😀. Playing Konigsberg. Turn one in process...finally. Germans got first three chits. Soviets next 3. Second Soviet draw all German chits. Can't use. Limit 3 on 1st turn.

[@fredwmanzo8580]

I’m open to being corrected, but there are probably only three FOW.

[@fredwmanzo8580]

Of course I’m open to there being the “Fred of War.”

[@OroborusFMA]

They've been called too scripted ("Dark" series) and too chaotic ("Red" series) at the same time. It doesn't model fog of war accurately if you ask me.

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

I feel the red box/ A victory series is even easier than SCS

[@ThePlayersAid]

A fair assessment, absolutely.

[@karlfromthewargame_bootcam7733]

We just finished On to Richmond (I the Avalon Hill Ed.) it was great. The new one came out the session before we finished and the really streamlined it and made easier and a little more enjoyable. Our group is doing GCACW game in chronological order so we moved on from OtR which bummed me out cause I’m going to find someone else to play OtR II

[@kenhartlen3858]

What no La Bataille?

[@ThePlayersAid]

I’d have to have played it first!

[@kenhartlen3858]

That was 2 hours well spent by the way. Really want to get Metz now.@@ThePlayersAid

[@strelnikoff1632]

Although I would say On To Richmond is not low complexity, maybe 7 on a 20 scale

[@ThePlayersAid]

Whilst probably not "low", although that's what the box says, I'm just pleasantly surprised it isn't a 17/20 etc.

[@strelnikoff1632]

😂@@ThePlayersAid

[@ryanhuard7301]

The warfighter fantasy rules are really rough. I stumbled through a couple of adventures and I think I have the hang of it. I played a lot of modern and wwii so that helped. But I agree the battle board thing is super confusing and I can’t see a reason why they did not just keep the lanes. For things like splitting the party. A lot of people seem to get tripped up with the striking range but I think it’s like hand to hand in other versions just you can hit everyone not just your Hand to hand target. The NAM rules on bgg are very helpful. Warfighter never had the best rules but it’s such a fun system, I think fantasy it awesome but the rules are very rough still Another thing that really was confusing apparently the spell costs are you choose one of the comma. So it’s 1 mana or 2 discards or 1 action. Not all three. That is at least how I understand it from NAM rules. Rules are poorly written for sure and it is a bummer because it is an awesome series and seems awesome but out of box a lot of problems

[@GrandPa_BBQer_Game_Cat]

I'm only 10 min into vid. Am I seeing some games from your recent Noble Knights visit?

[@ThePlayersAid]

No, but the games have been rearranged because some left the collection. I only purchased one game from NKG on that trip.

[@alanshackelford6450]

Hey, did you mention any chit pull games that use chit pull for variable combat strength? Fall Blau anyone?

[@782hrr]

When will you review COMBAT! 2nd edition?been watching since 2020

[@ThePlayersAid]

At some point! I own 1st Ed and volume 2 2nd Ed, so we’ll get to it.

[@strelnikoff1632]

7 on a 10

[@landonbohinc8146]

No enemy action? Surprising people love that one. At least for solitaire. Jesus bless!

[@karlfromthewargame_bootcam7733]

I actually like the Grand Tactical System (GTS) better than the Company Scale System (CSS) they are very close but just different enough. Also GTS I think has better topics though CSS non Pacific games I do like.

[@mj846]

Alexander in Hammer of the Scots the other side is the English not the British! Don't drag the rest of us Brits into attacking the Scots!!

[@ThePlayersAid]

Fair, fair.

[@ThymeKeeper]

I gave up on Warfighter Fantasy because of the rulebook. I really wanted to like the game and just couldn't. It's on its way to Noble Knight actually.

[@ThePlayersAid]

Yeah a real shame, because it had potential, but it's something of a disaster.

[@davidoduffy6168]

Well interrupted, Grant re the art on Ardennes II. I honestly think the art is not good at all.

[@StonerMatt]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Metz is pronounced MESS in French!

[@ThePlayersAid]

We can't get it right 100% of the time! [=

[@StonerMatt]

@@ThePlayersAid no problem didn't meant to be rude at all on you 😉

[@ThePlayersAid]

@@StonerMatt Not rude, I just had no idea! I had not heard that one said in French before.

[@StonerMatt]

@@ThePlayersAid oh don't worry outside of France nobody knows that there is still old french lying here and there in city names. For example, in French Brussels is written Bruxelles even though the X is pronounced like a double S