Kings of Columbus Sunday Sound Off: What Ohio State showed in its loss to Oregon

Ohio State took its first loss of the season on Saturday night, 32-31 at Oregon. Doug Lesmerises and Bill Landis dissect the loss and what we learned about the Buckeyes, along with thoughts, comments and questions from our text subscribers on Kings of Columbus.
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[@TomH-s4p]

Three straight losses to Michigan, two straight losses to Oregon.

[@rj_nbk]

More to come under this current coaching staff!

[@swordfish1487]

OSU was 9-1 against the ducks before this game. stupid

[@glinks48182]

By far the best 2 guys on the beat. Tell it like it is without standing on the bridge. Thanks for all the “deep dive” stuff which clearly shows you are putting in the work. Thanks

[@andrewmueller9986]

yeah this is way more realtalk than THE Podcast.

[@jameyb3545]

The problem isn't that they lost, it is HOW they lost and what they lost. The defensive incompetence and disjointed play will continue to carry over, worst of all is what we lost on the oline

[@timc8442]

Can someone ask Day why the dl coach gets to dictate how the DC runs their defense? This is just crazy and seems like it has been well known for years.

[@ricks7990]

Amen.

[@bradmurray7362]

Yeah, crazy at this point. Larry is a good recruiter but what’s the point if those recruits aren’t performing? If Larry was still producing guys like the Bosa bros and Chase Young by all means let him dictate it but it’s been 5 years since Chase Young played here. Move on from LJ.

[@dreamtimerelaxation8761]

I usually agree with Bill on almost everything . But Caleb Downs getting hit by a kickoff that was probably coming at him 70 mph , putting that on Coach Day is a little far fetched. Oregon never showed that on tape , directly kicking it at someone very hard. I can be prepared for rain , but not a lightning strike. This game Oregon got all the breaks and the ball bouncing their way. And yet still OSU was 1 second away from kicking a potential winning FG. CALM DOWN the sky is not falling. If this game was played in Columbus ,OSU wins by double digits. Also Will Howard is NOT a good deep ball thrower. He is constantly under throwing Jeremiah Smith on deep throws.

[@drewpinniger3378]

Oregon got all the breaks???

[@ricks7990]

How about putting a backup QB in for 4 or 5 plays a game to try a couple of deep throws? If the defense doubles deep, then let the backup hit the intermediate stuff or throw a screen pass to a RB. We see backup QBs sent in all the time to run the ball, but why not use our backups to throw a few?

[@oregonstacker2878]

Oregon got all the breaks? What about that major miss call on first drive?

[@TheGolferguy71]

@@drewpinniger3378 All but one, yes. All the calls/non calls but the one, all the bounces went their way, a miracle play and even help from our coaches on last drive and were able to keep the one point win. Only positive is that no way could it all be tilted one way again like it was last night, so I'd have extreme confidence OSU would handle Oregon fairly easily in Indy if the Bucks make it. Not sure they'll make it with this hot garbage D however.

[@ckbook]

@@ricks7990 That may be the stupidest idea I have ever heard.

[@TheAferguson381]

44:15 Ryan Day used to do those kinds of things. Remember 2019 Maryland game, he had the kicker pop the ball up to Chris Olave who was running down the sideline. The more he losses the more conservative he gets. He was handed a Lamborghini and all he had to do was not wreck the damn thing and all he had done is wreck the damn thing. Urban gifted him a culture of being mean and physical and he takes it and changes it to love conquers all. Then he wonders why people call(ed) Ohio State soft for the last 3 years because they got out physicalled on the line. Denzel Burke got taken for a 20 yard ride by a WR who was smaller than him. He put limits on Coach Micks workouts and here we are dealing with the same thing.

[@travisshuttleworth630]

I might be in the vast minority, but ive never felt this confident after a loss in my life! We lost by 1 point in the other side of the country to the current #2 team in the nation. We only dropped to #4 and that tells us what the non-biased observers think. Losing sucks, but every goal is still within reach. Lock in, win out, avenge this loss in Indy.

[@taxisquad11]

In this 18 team Big Ten, winning road games after traveling 2500 miles will be a rarity

[@aaronfromohio8895]

You might be right, but my mood is too crappy to acknowledge it. Plus the loss of Simmons probably means we’re cooked.

[@jordygamesbad]

@@travisshuttleworth630 yea I agree to an extent. This coaching staff has to figure out how to scheme stuff up and hold players accountable or we're not going to beat good teams in the playoffs.

[@travisshuttleworth630]

@@aaronfromohio8895 when we won the nati with our 3rd string QB, our Tackles were probably the worst we've had , Zach Smith has talked about that and if Ryan Day and Chip Kelly are as great of offensive minds as we think they are... They can scheme around an average LT!

[@hundenstihl]

The game management in last 2 minutes was pretty Special Ed. That can follow this team into any game.

[@briangentry6408]

I’ve been skeptical of Will Howard since he arrived on campus. Now I definitely think we can win a title with him. He played very well.

[@pioneersbuckeyes885]

First, loss of Simmonds is catastrophic. Second, I am of the belief that our defense needs to make big plays in order to win big games so I ran some numbers on Urban Meyer against top 5 opponents and Ryan Day against top 5 opponents. Used sports reference for my numbers. Urban 6-2 Ryan Day 2-7. In 8 games Urbans teams forced 15 turnovers an average of 1.87 per game, they had 19 sacks an average of 2.37 per game, and they had 54 tackles for loss an average of 6.75 per game. In contrast in 9 games (counting 2021 Michigan who at the time was ranked number 6 but would finish top 5) Ryan Day's teams have forced 5 turnovers an average of .55 per game, they have 14 sacks an average of 1.55 per game and they have 34 tackles for loss an average of 3.77 per game. These numbers are drastically different and the big game results follow suit.

[@jimwilliams3674]

Just want to say I appreciate the commentary and analysis from both Doug and Bill. Always incisive and insightful. Unique perspectives on OSU games that I don't get from other pods. That said, I think I feel worse now about OSU's chances going forward this season. Maybe they'll make the playoffs but they aren't winning it all this year.

[@dirtyace1668]

I'm an Ohio State alumn, however, I'm a big fan but not a fanatical one. I also prefer to look at things with sober objectivity and reading through the comments here just made me roll my eyes over and over and over again. People trying so hard, practically crawling out of their skin, to defend this performance in some way. To somehow make it into some sort of moral victory. Well if only this or that happened. Please, just stop. Just stop. This is all on Day first and foremost, after that it's all on the rest of coaching staff. Day has also established a pattern at this point of laying eggs against any opponent worth their salt, while blowing out weaker teams. It all smells of a certain John Cooper of days gone by. Yes, there's still at least half of the season left to play and we will see where it all ends, but at this point, my confidence in Day is pretty shot. And again, it's because he has established a pattern of failure against actual good, important opponents.

[@rj_nbk]

Very well said!

[@steveskuras2515]

I'm just trying to wrap my head around an Ohio State alumni sober😂

[@dirtyace1668]

@@steveskuras2515 anything is possible ;)

[@briancrawford69]

The refs decided to get involved on the last drive

[@robertjulieannanalett1691]

Yeah that was very strange the first drive Ohio state was gifted seven points it was an obvious interception not even a review.

[@lindzbreezyoh]

We also had a call go our way that shouldn't have gone our way in the beginning though so....

[@michaelkurywchak9409]

OSU was gifted a TD. Save the ref excuses

[@waterboy417]

True they should have showed up on the first drive when there was an obvious interception

[@thomasorzack5795]

Why would they-they cheated OR of early Pass Interception

[@dml5121]

This defense stinks man. No pressure all game and got cooked by the passing game. Looked sluggish all game

[@Peruvian.Lama74]

Ohio state wins if Jermaine Mathews plays instead of Denzel Burke.

[@daviddownie3431]

Couldn’t have been any worse

[@andrewmueller9986]

but you cant bench the guy thats older and came back (sarc)

[@azbuckeyegirl9523]

Interesting take. I need to learn more about that. Not sure how many snaps Burke played, but what made in on the screen didn't look good.

[@woodybear8298]

This is what you have to expect with a Ryan Day-coached team, he's been in over his head since day one. When you resign yourself that more than likely OSU is going to lose big games, it's not so bad when it happens. Low expectations are the answer.

[@rj_nbk]

And for some reason the vast majority of buckeye fans are ok with beating up MAC teams and bad B1G teams without ever winning any meaningful games. It’s so tiresome.

[@dariusp257]

18:20 Howard got them to field goal range by going 4/4 and getting them to the 28 with .34 seconds left. Why did Day decide to keep passing the ball? You run two plays to get 5 yards, you still have a time out and then you kick a 35 yrd field goal for the win with no time left. Why did he keep throwing the ball like if he needed a TD to win the game? The loss is no the coaches. It is not on Howard. He should have never been in that position.

[@l.sueszabo9618]

Doug, staying up til 5am. Going the extra mile.😮

[@whodat4u22]

On that last drive. U get a completion to EE at the 28 . There’s what 20 seconds left with a time out in pocket. Why not do a T formation sweep to get maybe another 3-5 yds. Call time and do the FG chance?

[@briancrawford69]

That corner was mugging Smith that whole drive with no cLl but they suddenly call offensive PI in a critical moment. Complete BS

[@robschaller9061]

Officiating was putrid but that isnt why we lost

[@bailey7915]

trying to come up with excuses on why your freshman diddnt turn into randy moss against one of the best teams in the nation is complete BS

[@jordygamesbad]

@@bailey7915he was incredible the whole game. Wtf u on about lol

[@bailey7915]

@@jordygamesbad he had 4 catches for 19 yards until the 4th quarter lmao took Jabar off of him and he started catching shit I believe he made 1 single play on jabar that was a 30 yard gain

[@jordygamesbad]

@@bailey7915 holy shit u are not smart

[@daviddownie3431]

After the 2021 loss to Oregon, Ryan Day got rid of Combs calling plays after giving up 35 points and 507 yards of offense. 236 rushing and 268 passing. Last night, Knowles Defense gave up 32 points, 496 yards of offense. 341 passing and 155 rushing.

[@msmith837]

Frye lack of recruiting ability starting to show

[@Kajh2583]

For a team with this much fan support (financial), they deserve the #1 head coach, and Day is not that coach.

[@taxisquad11]

Ignoramus, those who say stupid things about firing coaches NEVER say who would do better. They can't they are clueless

[@jordygamesbad]

Who is the no. 1 coach. If u wanna go after saban I'm all for it. Otherwise day is better than everyone else. Spare me the Kirby smart shit. He has a terribly disciplined team and gets the most fertile home state to recruit from.

[@andrewmueller9986]

@@jordygamesbad he has 2 nasties. Spare you?

[@jordygamesbad]

@@andrewmueller9986 yes spare me. Kirby smart would absolutely not fit here.

[@andrewmueller9986]

@@jordygamesbad in what way? At least he wins playoff games

[@Beaumo66]

I feel that the last drive was managed so good! until after the Emeka catch @ the 28.. that's when we Run with the best RB duo in the country.. after Emeka catches that ball and we are in great shape for a field goal.. we have 20 plus seconds and that was a fresh set of downs.. so we can run it and run Oregon out of timeouts.. using Judkins and Trey Now these boys.. this coaching staff.. Better use this like 2014 did their loss. Fuel this offense and defense to be the biggest monsters in college football and Ryan needs to stop relying on perfect execution and all the talent in the world. If he plays like Urban and Tressel did with the talent they paved the way for Ryan to have, it's 7-2 not 2-7. We run away with this game and teams are scared of Ohio State again. no fear man, no fear and that's on the coaching But we can't be firing people haha.. the future is bright and shining @ Ohio State there is more to a loss than anger. don't let Anger fuel your words is all I am saying :3 Day still has to beat ttun, still has to win the b1g title and run the playoffs. That's still probably going to happen this season.. I love Tress but he didn't have to coach in the Era Urban or Day is and coached in.. A Saban Led bama! that was the only thing keeping him from a title in 2020.. Or before that, The clemson with Trevor Lawrence.. he could had 2 titled back to back in year 1 and 2. while beating ttun 2 times in a row as well, without a white flag.. Thing unfold how they do and there are just more fine lines to look @ here.. once covid lifted I feel like that's when Ryan really got to take control of this team and make it his. Not Urbans left overs, but his and he has a crazy roster.. he isn't out! he can still have a record year with a W against Oregon and a title in both the B1G and Nationally. most importantly ! the W over ttun

[@markstandohar5977]

Nobody is talking about Ryan Day NOT ARGUING that 10 seconds should have been left on clock not 6 seconds bc Oregon penalty for illegal substitution‼️

[@thespot5722]

I agree

[@robschaller9061]

No one is seemingly spending any time on how badly the defense played allowing 496 yards is UNACCEPTABLE.

[@ricks7990]

It's only a penalty after the ball is snapped and the play is run. The offense can accept the results of the play or the 5 yard penalty. A rule change is needed to reset the clock back to it's starting point when the penalty is accepted. Otherwise, the team committing the illegal substitution penalty has an incentive to add players to the field to prevent a big play knowing it only costs them 5 yards and they can force the clock to run down by doing so.

[@bailey7915]

tell me you know nothing about the rules of football without actually telling me.... its a live ball free shot penalty time comes off the clock because your coach cant recognize there's 12 guys on the field at one time

[@ninefingerjack]

It's a trick called the Polish defense

[@briangentry6408]

I love Burke but agree with Doug that this one is on him. Ohio state could’ve easily won by two scores.

[@MegaSlowe]

I've gotten used to Ryan Day losing big games. I'm just assuming at this point he'll lose the next one, too. Except for Penn State, because James Franklin is even more inept than him in basic football competencies like clock management.

[@taxisquad11]

HOW THE F**K is Denzel Burke playing horribly that Day's fault???

[@Salty_Balls]

​@@taxisquad11a good coaching staff would have either made adjustments after seeing how Burke was playing or pulled him altogether and tried someone else. Just doing nothing was worse then trying something new.

[@taxisquad11]

@@Salty_Balls Ignorance....the next guy would not be as good as Burke

[@taxisquad11]

@@Salty_Balls ALSO an entre "coaching staff" NEVER makes a decision about a single player. in a game or during a week of practice. Only the position group coach and the coordinator

[@taxisquad11]

You MUST save that last time out to use to get the field goal team in. It was up to the offensive team and QB to realize the clock was still running and hurry to the line of scrimmage. Do you know for a FACT that Day was trying to scream over the crowd noise for them to do that?

[@Plunkshots]

Thank you Doug for the context, this fan base needs a reality check at times.

[@johnmuehlheim6090]

Doug Football is a sport that requires REQUIRES emotion from those who play and watch it. You and Bill sound scolding of us for not being as robotic as you. God you need to watch and listen to yourself from my recliner.

[@ethanmaxfield4709]

2019 Clemson was stolen by the refs. Michigan had a very elaborate cheating system. 2022 Georgia refs blew a targeting call as marv is snoring unconscious in the end zone. I agree ryan needs to do more, but we are in ALL of these games except 2020 Bama. Devonta Smith is still open vs tuff borland lol

[@ironmantran]

GREAT SHOW. It shows OSU is repeating in 2024, as in 2023, and 2022, as 2021, . . .

[@rj_nbk]

Absolutely zero improvement since day took over.

[@cleveranwitty811]

Bottom line - The D couldn't get off the field when it needed to. Oregon did almost whatever they wanted offensively. The trenches are a problem on both sides. Typical Ryan Day team.

[@ChuckmanFilms]

One of you mentioned Ryan Day relying on out muscling or being more physical than any other team. I don’t think he has that mentality himself. If he did, he’d run the ball more and be more committed to the run. He definitely prefers passing and drawing up offensive passing plays. If they had Tressel and Meyer mindset on running the ball, OSU would be winning these big games.

[@rj_nbk]

So true!

[@ChuckmanFilms]

I blame coaching for that last play more than will howard. Howard hasn’t had these big game and game winning situations at OSU yet. They had a timeout right before the final play. Ryan Day or another coach should have reminded him, you only have time for a very quick throw (if you’re going for a field goal.)

[@JamesPetroff]

It took 13 seasons to get rid of John Cooper. So we have another seven years of lost seasons with Day. Only after the program goes 6 and 6 because of recruiting declines and they lose most of the football revenue does he go.

[@lancewimberly5954]

Thanks for the fan therapy 😁👌🏾

[@profoundgreetingsfromneptune]

All Day had to do after reaching the ORE 28 on that fateful final drive was run the ball. Get Judkins and/or Henderson in there, bring out your big-boy package, and tell your O-linesmen to push the ORE D-line back like their lives depended on it: run, run, run the ball; bleed clock; and kick the ball. Game over. Game won. Job done. Fly back to Columbus. End of.

[@mybrotherkeeper1484]

Day’s afraid.

[@Melrose51653]

Any decent team can run on them and shred the secondary. Have to score a lot of points to make up for that.

[@rj_nbk]

Yup any team with a pulse

[@LanceGreene888]

Ryan day doesn't realize yet that he has to run the ball more in key situations in these games he loses when he loses the rushing battle you would think he would understand to control the clock more with the rushing and force the defenses hand Ryan day isn't learning from his mistakes.

[@mybrotherkeeper1484]

Not surprised. He never takes accountability, so he’s more concerned with being a friend than a head coach.

[@redmoon004]

Larry Johnson needs to go. And day needs to bring in a young fired up dline coach

[@taxisquad11]

WHO IS that "young fired up" coach?? Big mouths like you never know

[@chrisscheuermann450]

Any former Buckeye lineman available?

[@taxisquad11]

@@chrisscheuermann450 DUMB!!!

[@chrisscheuermann450]

@@taxisquad11 what’s “dumb”? LJ should have been gone a couple years ago.

[@redmoon004]

@@taxisquad11 okay keyboard warrior get out of your mom’s basement

[@cauchy1104]

If they did the 12 men on purpose then it's unsportsmanlike penalty and should not be allowed.

[@rebeccacampbell5662]

I think when defense does it inside of 2 minutes there should be a 5 second clock add.

[@mudddge]

That would be illegal participation which is a 15 yd penalty

[@rj_nbk]

@@cauchy1104 Lanning wanted the win more props to him. He knows how to coach and prepare a team unlike day.

[@cauchy1104]

@@rj_nbk he won by 1 at home

[@rj_nbk]

@@cauchy1104 don’t care he walked out of the stadium with a W. Something day can’t and will never say.

[@jordygamesbad]

Good stuff from Doug on day at the end. I think Day has an issue with equal talent. I agree nd and Penn state are big wins, but osu was obviously more talented in those matchups. He fails when he needs to scheme things up. Exactly what you touched on early on.

[@ACDCluva10]

Doug you’re a little off about the coverages. Every deep shot that was hit was against off-man. Burke did give up a TD in press man and that was the only play where he was in position to make a play on the ball. He just didn’t make the play.

[@jeff_crater]

Agree, Day hired Knowles as head coach of D, then doesn't let him run hid D? Told we have no jack guys? Think we have 4, Styles, Hicks, Reese, and Melton

[@aaronbux1]

Appreciate these deeper dives, Doug and Bill.

[@sterlingwhite1179]

Doug i love the press man point that you made. Fans were begging Jim Knowles to play more press man and Less soft coverage and look how that played out 😂😂 I’ll take the soft coverage everyday if it doesn’t give up multiple 50 yard plays

[@briancrawford69]

If Oregon did the 12 man thing on purpose thats some borderline chicken shit stuff. Gimmicks to win

[@andrewmueller9986]

Day should have demanded clock reset to 10

[@waterboy417]

@@andrewmueller9986he’d still be standing there demanding it cause that’s not how it works 🤣🤣🤣

[@hopefulelectoftheng2819]

You ohio st fans are sore losers lmao I know you guys been salty because you haven't won a big game in 5 years 😂😂😂😂

[@rj_nbk]

@@hopefulelectoftheng2819 as a diehard osu fan I can say buckeye fans are insufferable

[@LanceGreene888]

With 30 seconds left to go inside the 30 yard line why didn't Ryan day and chip kelly just run the ball more to setup the field goal to just end the game.

[@bdtn342]

Because day is a shitty head coach

[@briancrawford69]

I thought it was CJ Hicks that it hit on the kick?

[@dacorny]

I think Ryan Day won't try trick plays just because he's stubborn. No specific argument against them - it's just a personal prejudice. It might make him look dumb if they poorly execute it. And he's sensitive to looking dumb.

[@MrIbates]

The more I think about All the seniors returning I’ve come to the conclusion it wasn’t necessarily a great thing. Burke, JTT, Sawyer are not the best at their respective positions. Matthews, Curry, & Jackson are better imo. Because of their seniority the coaches cannot be afraid to make a change. This was unacceptable by the aforementioned seniors. A changed needed to made in game and wasn’t because of the kumbaya shit RD has going on in our program. Also, WTF isnJalani Thurman? He would’ve been a complete mismatch against those small as DB and linebackers. This coaching staff has to quit overthinking and start playing the best players. Period. When Knowles said, Arvalle Reese can’t start because of the “specialized track to greatness” he’s on, I knew something was up. This staff is not playing the best & most deserving players and this Oregon game made is obvious.

[@MegaSlowe]

I'm tending to agree. These returning players have done nothing but lose big games since they were freshmen. That's all they know how to do. I guess the defense is more the case. The offensive guys were fine. But Burke, Sawyer, Tuimoloau, Hancock, Ransom, Hamilton were all outclassed from one degree to another, especially Burke, who was so horrible they had to go almost exclusively zone to hide him.

[@taxisquad11]

LOLOLOL.....SO the back ups to those players would be better??? Just another know nothing nobody that never played OR coached at a high level

[@MrIbates]

@@taxisquad11Matthews I whole heartedly believe is better than Burke, Caden Curry & Kenyata Jackson are better than Sawyer & JT. Any other questions?

[@taxisquad11]

Because YOU, a know nothing nobody, says so?? Apply for the job and see if you get hired. LOLOL

[@mikewhitaker8496]

I hope Ryan Day can take that time out with him to his next job. Just terrible clock management-was at the 28. Run the ball -call the timeout-kick the FG-win the game.

[@chrisscheuermann450]

He only gets fired this year if he loses 3 times.

[@taxisquad11]

@@chrisscheuermann450 It's only an urban legend that John Cooper got fired for losing to Michigan. He was ACTUALLY fired for going 14-10 his last 2 seasons. Let me know when Day goes 14-10 in back to back seasons

[@taxisquad11]

Total ignorance on your part. The ball was not at the 28. It was at the 38. 56 yard field goals are rare

[@ACDCluva10]

@@taxisquad11 It was indeed 1st and 10 at the 28 after an Egbuka reception.

[@thomasorzack5795]

What makes you think he would have made it.

[@joshr2280]

Run the ball when ur on the 28 and need a fg to win. They got to cute and it cost them. That's why professional coaches run to avoid errors

[@RoofDoctorsJoanne]

Ryan Day has no games manship or moxey! Can't manage a game clock. Conner Stallions beat us 3 years in row! The first year, ok , Can't change our signs up after the 1st year? By the way everyone in the Nation knows when we run or pass bro....its the Offensive Lines stance. Its like a pitcher tipping his pitches.

[@briangentry6408]

Fair criticism from Doug that we need more special plays to dial up. Saban did the same thing as Lanning on a kickoff in the natty against Clemson. Unfair criticism of clock management IMO. It’s easy to go back when looking for one second, but we were at the 20 yd line with 20+ seconds left before the penalty. We would’ve kicked the ball to end the game and Oregon would’ve never touch the ball again. Seems like perfect clock management to me.

[@ricks7990]

We were never at the 20 yard line on that last drive. We were at the 28 yard line, not the 20. After the offensive pass interference penalty, we were pushed back to the 43 yard line and out of field goal range. We never got back in good field goal range. With 6 seconds left, we were at the 38 yard line, which would have been a 55 yard kick and that is a low, low percentage kick for our kicker.

[@briangentry6408]

Still an unfair criticism of clock management, but appreciate the insight where seconds could’ve been saved

[@cberan14]

Still g🅾️ bucks…long season ahead of us…take the bye regroup get better

[@connormortimer3264]

1000% agree in saying day doesn’t try to steal anything with “trick” plays or scenarios. You never see it. They tried it as a fake punt and didn’t work and that’s it.

[@Arkbuck]

The drop snapped was worse then the last playoff the game…..

[@cauchy1104]

Why doesn't the facemask penalty just either get enforced replay the down or declined and take the td. Why would it be going like 3 plays into the future somehow

[@cauchy1104]

I'm gonna lobby for being able to just hold a 15 yard penalty in your back pocket to apply to any future play where you need it. If Dan can say "🤔 I think I'll use this for the next drive" and gets to do so then why not us too?

[@ethanmaxfield4709]

The kickoff directly to Chris Olave vs. Maryland 2019? In regard to Ryan Day, "stealing a possession, bringing more to a game."

[@joncooper107]

Hard to believe how bad Burke and Ransom were 🤷‍♂️

[@rj_nbk]

What else would you expect under this coaching staff? Knowles defense is awful against anyone above average.

[@KlayItCool]

Also, I would take Dan Lanning in a millisecond. Never been more sure of a decision in my life.

[@chrisscheuermann450]

No chance. He’s terrible. He’s lost every big game before this one bc of his terrible decisions. He’s liked bc he’s a cocky sob with quick whit. He’s only succeeding bc of Papa Knights money.

[@pnwadventurer802]

​@chrisscheuermann450 you can say the same thing about Day....

[@chrisscheuermann450]

@@pnwadventurer802 Day is 8-8 against the top 10 teams. 2-7 in top 5. 3 of those are against a UM team we all know have cheated their way to those wins. 1 to Saban in a Natty, 1 to Kirby in the semi final and 1 to Dabo when the refs picked Clemson in 2019. Those aren’t all bad losses. That’s 4 losses in the playoffs.

[@rj_nbk]

@@KlayItCool I’ve been saying this for 2 years. Lanning is the man. Young and hungry with a defensive mindset. Day is none of that. Day thinks he’s some offensive wizard it’s actually hilarious.

[@msmith837]

And Knowles Defensive schemes suck

[@rj_nbk]

They always have

[@aaronbux1]

Excellent points by Doug at the end of the pod (1:18:00) in pointing out facts of Day's record vs top 5 and top 10. And to Doug's point .. some fans want Day fired .. but who do those fans want to replace Day?

[@darthgallion]

People seem to want Mike Vrabel, who a) has said he doesn’t like coaching college b) who doesn’t like recruiting and c) who doesn’t like NIL. Firing day would cause us to become Nebraska

[@caseytannreuther4498]

Pretty sure there are plenty of guys that have never been head coaches before who can beat Akron and lose big games, just like Day.

[@aaronbux1]

@@caseytannreuther4498 Then why aren't they head coaches already? Goofy.

[@unreconstructed9172]

​@@aaronbux1because they haven't received a chance to OJT at The Ohio State University. Anybody can lose in the fashion Day teams do. He's done jack and beating up on sub top 25 doesn't count. He will end up turning the chokeyes into the Blue jackets

[@rickymorgan4748]

There a lot to learn for Will Howard and the team playing cupcake teams played a factor. The Oregon team was ready and made critical plays. Lets learn from this game new season Buckeyes coaching staff get it right now. If we do not make the Big10 Championship it's time for a change somewhere.

[@msmith837]

Oregon did a couple dirty tricks

[@rj_nbk]

@@msmith837 they won that’s all that matters. Lanning is leagues ahead of day.

[@andrewmueller9986]

When they blasted the ball right out our guy on kickoff coverage needed to get out of the way. The coaches admitted that Oregon has done that before.

[@taxisquad11]

They showed that ALMOST they were only the 2nd Big Ten team to win on the road after a 2500+ mile trip, making Ohio state the better team. When Oregon and Ohio State meet for a Big Ten Title game IN Indianapolis, Oregon makes the long trip. The new Big Ten(18) is a league where those losses are common

[@thomasorzack5795]

Oregon shredded OSU D all nifgt

[@andrewmueller9986]

good thing you said almost because psu did win

[@andrewmueller9986]

why do you assume osu will be in the championship? pretty cocky and disrespectful to PSU. Every win has to be earned.

[@taxisquad11]

@@andrewmueller9986 Ohio State plays PSU. Look at the record of the games since Day has been the head coach. It will not be a a 2500 mile trip. NOT cocky, logical

[@rj_nbk]

@@taxisquad11 1-7 vs top 5 teams. OSU can kiss meaningful wins away until day is gone. Penn state will most likely beat the bucks.

[@golfbuddy1969]

To blame Howard for this loss is the same as the fans who blamed McCord for the Michigan loss. The reason for both losses is the same, but it isn’t the QBs. It is the poor defensive planning, and a lack of willingness to change the defensive plan. Bad defense- bad coaching. And how were they not ready for an onside kick, when it is at the 50, and the kicker was not more than 5 feet from the ball.

[@cauchy1104]

@@golfbuddy1969 blaming Howard for this and McCord for Michigan are worlds apart. Mccords 2 picks were easily the difference in the game. This game the blame is more on Burke than Howard.

[@ricks7990]

​@@cauchy1104I don't blame Howard for this loss, and I really don't blame McCord for last year's loss either. Interceptions happen sometimes. What I do know, is our defense didn't stop Michigan from scoring in the 2nd half, and the defense was bad again yesterday. We were lucky Oregon didn't score more points than what they did.

[@nickj230]

Ya’ll are really downplaying things that didn’t go oregon’s way to make it seem like they played almost a perfect game. The missed interception resulting in an OSU touchdown, Stewart getting mugged his entire route and not getting called on 3rd down in the redzone, the botched PAT, the missed two point conversion, the fact that they also had guys in the backfield and couldn’t bring howard down multiple times, missed field goal. 3 bad plays for oregon? Lol

[@rj_nbk]

Oregon easily could’ve had 13 more points from missed field goal, 2 point conversions and a stop on the goal line.

[@ssbc123abc]

Aren’t they supposed to blow a play dead if the defense has 12 on the field and the snap is imminent? And Day was yelling at the ref they have 12 plus they eventually threw the flag so why didn’t they blow the play dead? That’s a crazy advantage to give a defense in that situation.

[@Buckeyeforlife-z9f]

Ohio State will never get over the hump with Ryan Day at the helm . He doesn't have that dog in him

[@andrewmueller9986]

youth pastor vibes

[@rj_nbk]

⁠@@andrewmueller9986so true😂😂 that’s a good one

[@mybrotherkeeper1484]

Notice the postgame interview? He didn’t seem too upset. I guess we should lower our expectations. He seems to have

[@kurtlouis858]

My confidence has decreased by 30%. I honestly didn't think we had a chance of losing a game until the semifinals. I still dont believe we should have a chance of losing until the semifinals. O-H

[@rj_nbk]

We will lose in the first round. It’s be considered a big game right? Day can’t win big games.

[@andrewmueller9986]

You were delusional lol

[@foxbodyblues6709]

Another thing to consider: Undefeated Natty champs is NOT the norm in this era. Most champs have had one loss.

[@jackbrunk3907]

I did not like the way Quinshon ran last night either.

[@taxisquad11]

He didn't get nearly as many carries as Henderson

[@jackbrunk3907]

@@taxisquad11 yeah cuz Trey (surprisingly) ran way more decisively.

[@briancrawford69]

Howard played great until the last play

[@ialexander032275]

He underthrows constantly and drops a snap when it counted.

[@aaronporterjr.9515]

If you can see the exact reason they called that on Smith, then that’s why they called it

[@ricks7990]

Sounds a bit like Jim Knowles has reached Doug's "Brian Ferentz level of continued competence (?)" albeit not on offense but on the defensive end. Lol

[@danielrezek6941]

as a buckeye fan i feel like Sisyphus

[@greghammer4000]

Ryan day is not a national championship caliber coach

[@Myname77778]

No big plays from the defense and the defense gave up too many big plays. Offense overall did good

[@Rivs5117]

Ryan Day gotta tell Jim Knowles and Larry Johnson to fix the damn defensive line or both gotta go asap. 2019 Clemson, 2021 Oregon and Michigan, 2022 Georgia, 2022 Michigan, 2023 Michigan and now 2024 Oregon. All these games were winnable but poor clock management, poor mid game adjustments and poor execution keep costing us time after time after time

[@RKA91]

Coach Day has a Knowles/Johnson NOT on the same page PROBLEM 💯

[@douglasberry4891]

Why haven’t these guys mentioned anything about why they didn’t go for 2 on at least a couple of touchdown drives. We would be talking about an overtime game then a 1 point loss

[@MassillonObie]

It’s not the reason we lost, but can someone explain the rules to me as it applies to the 12 men penalty? If you can load up your players to commit a penalty to run clock, why wouldn’t everyone do it? In that scenario any defense would trade five seconds for five yards. I don’t care if it’s discovered pre snap or post snap by the officials. That shouldn’t matter. We keep focusing on Knowles and his defense (when not that long ago he was the solution to our prior DC problem). That’s fine, but you hired a guy from the Big 12, where no defense is played. Lots of high level problems, but can someone tell me why that clock ran off? I wonder if Will thought they put time back on the clock.

[@taxisquad11]

you would be VERY STUPID to give up on Howard

[@Bucks-By-Fiddy]

Love yalls take. Heartbreaking game but I think the buckeyes win against that team 8/10 times and we will get them in the big10 championship!

[@A-Train23]

Nah…Oregon won the trenches. OSU isn’t physical enough to compete with Oregon

[@robschoenung9543]

Why wouldn't the Ohio State media have picked OSU to win? They are the better team and were favored. I don't think their predictions have anything to do with fan expectations.

[@alta58043]

Day 0-2 vs Ducks. Need to get over the Michigan and Oregon hump.

[@kurtlouis858]

Dougs rant around 1:25 is facts

[@TheAferguson381]

Would you rather have Urban who won the big games but about every one game a year you would drop to an inferior team or are you ok with beating up lesser talented teams and when it comes time to play the big boys you get knocked around.

[@andrewmueller9986]

def UM. 7-0.

[@Yoooowesshum]

Great show Bucks will regroup and improve Bill great cap. Go Army

[@swordfish1487]

People who understand football must realize how difficult it is to play in that environment cross country and only losing by 1 point tells you something about OSU. Yes, they lost and it hurts, but you pick yourself back up, make adjustments, and learn from it. 6 games left and still goals are in place.

[@rj_nbk]

@@swordfish1487 the funny thing is that 0 adjustments will be made.

[@RoofDoctorsJoanne]

Kyle McCord was the Scapegoat last year.....now its Will Howard? Just stop it!

[@cauchy1104]

Kyle McCord was bad will Howard is not.

[@RoofDoctorsJoanne]

Ryan Day was born 3rd base & stole 2nd base.

[@jordygamesbad]

Hilarious

[@rj_nbk]

@@RoofDoctorsJoanne lmfaooo actually made me laugh

[@mybrotherkeeper1484]

Verbal Gold

[@jedediahwalker7616]

Doug to hit the nail on the head fans are delusional to think every big game we have to dominate and win by 2 scores. Tressel or urban didn’t do this stats and records can be deceiving!

[@rj_nbk]

Problem is we DONT WIN any big games. We haven’t won a big game in 4+ seasons.

[@jedediahwalker7616]

@@rj_nbk if you listened to Doug he stated we do it’s just fans and a false sense of reality. I remember in the tressel era I was happy just to not get blown out in big games we are a play away from winning. Maybe we will be on the right side soon!🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mybrotherkeeper1484]

It starts with Day. Get rid of him first. Don’t people realize “the buck stops at the top?” We’re just wasting time blaming the other people, first. The problem is Day wants to be Head Friend, not Head Coach, and he doesn’t accept accountability.

[@joe_anthony8419]

12 men on the field is a dead ball foul. Why was the clock still running?

[@mudddge]

It's live because the refs can't know when the ball will be snapped, that's why it's a free play penalty

[@rj_nbk]

Lanning wanted to win more. Good on him, it wasn’t against the rules other than the penalty. Day should take notes.

[@RoofDoctorsJoanne]

Stop with the nonsense! The defense sucked, the special teams suck, thd the running game sucked except 2 runs.

[@ianw.9185]

Almost. Just like Clemson in 2019, UGA 2022, Michigan last year. We almost beat an elite team and actually accomplished something. I'm so fucking tired of almost.

[@rj_nbk]

@@ianw.9185 get used to it so long as day is HC

[@bobwoodssr.4683]

hi Guys, Most of the time, I don't agree with Doug---especially when he was leaning towards TCUN this past spring-. This podcast I'm agreeing with most of what he said. I'm not sure if that's good or bad or what it means for the future. God help us all...

[@zdecker05]

4 dpi on Ohio State.. 0 on Oregon.. and why the hell did we not go for 2 once to even the score??? Doesn't make sense to me.. Ryan Day is becoming more and more less popular to this fan base. He's one Michigan loss away from losing his job.