Salvage a Washing Machine Motor + Transmission from a Siemens Washing Machine

[@ThePostApocalypticInventor]

Hey guys. a followup video is now online! Learn more about the motors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaXYnYWnr9OVsKs

[@marvinmacon9673]

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[@petergarrigan7037]

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[@Petertronic]

Nice teardown! My 1999 Bosch machine has a similar Siemens motor, in fact the drum and a lot of the other parts look the same. I changed the brushes in 2014 and it is still running perfectly!

[@ThePostApocalypticInventor]

Sorry if I sounded tired and possibly "uninspired" at the end of the video, I had to keep down my voice because it's already technically Monday morning here and I didn't want to keep the neighbors awake with my loud voice. I had to whisper into the microphone. I'm commenting on it because I'm actually quied excited about building some of the stuff that I mentioned at the end of the video, now that I have the new shop and all. Have a nice rest of the weekend, Gerolf

[@janhanchenmichelsen2627]

TPAI whispering in the night. Brilliant!

[@Braeden123698745]

Didn't notice. Your voice overs are always great.

[@janhanchenmichelsen2627]

Agreed!

[@goncalogarcia3608]

The Post Apocalyptic Inventor make a eletric go kart with that motor! Salvage batteries from old laptop batteries computers, some of the cells still good!

[@DougHanchard]

"Sounds" like we need to find you some sound proof walls!

[@patriklindahl4991]

I once built a knife/axe sharpener from a setup like this. Took the motor and drum assembly from a 1970 top loaded drum style washing machine and a big (about 50cmx10cm) grinding wheel. Moving slowly with a small water reservoir at the bottom. Works great!

[@alanpartridge2140]

I liked the lab supply power build, please don't stop making some of the more technically advanced videos. It's why many of us love your channel

[@gower1973]

That three pronged casting is called a spider, used to disassemble hundreds of them every day due to a bad batch of faulty bearings in Hotpoint model, they had edge bolts that needed drilling out and then u had to pry bar it away from the drum, the hotpoint ones have a plastic outer drum made in two halves with a seal. What a back breaking job that was!

[@JohnRaschedian]

I have been playing with the idea of building an electric vehicle for a while now. I did not have the technical knowledge yet, working with motors, controlling them, working with metal, etc. Your videos are the best resources I have found so far to get new ideas and also as a source of information and learning what I need to learn to build the vehicle. I have been putting together some tools and collecting parts from the street (I live near Hamburg). It seems that completing the project might take me around 3 years at least but I'm very excited about it. Thank you for the invaluable videos!

[@oldman5250]

That inner drum with all the holes is good for camping for your camp fire. I had one sitting in my fire pit at a state park with a fire going one time. The wind came up quite strong and the park rangers were ordering every one to put out there campfires I was ok. I had placed a metal trash can lid that I had drilled 1/2 inch holes inon top of it and had coffee purking in the coffee pot. The head park ranger liked my set up. I did not have to put out my campfire because it was safely controlled.

[@maxwang2537]

I like the way you salvaged the drum shaft as an intact part.

[@fabiStgt]

so cool to see you are back to working on washing mashine motors again! would love to see applications for those.

[@andrewwilson8317]

The drum makes a very good garden burner. Sit it on a ring of bricks and it makes a really effective fire pit for chilly autumn evenings. A few bits of scrap wood provides hours of nice free heat.

[@Seegalgalguntijak]

The door of this washing machine makes a great dish, not only for salad, you could even make a casserole in it because it is really thick and heat resistant glass, so you can easily put it into the oven without damaging it.

[@LydellAaron]

Absolutely love your videos and the logic paths that you take. There are many discarded washing machines out there, so using their motors is a great idea. Thank you!

[@matschase]

Don't know why I'm excited for washing machine motor videos, but I am. Already collected one

[@joelaut12]

Nice breakdown of a scrapped machine, thanks!

[@rblubb]

Mit den großen Riemenrädern kann man bestimmt prima ne Bandsäge bauen :) Tolles Video!

[@ArthurCheesebag84]

Love having you back in the lab.

[@TheFurriestOne]

Great salvaging, I look forward to seeing what you build, gonna be fun!

[@gplechuckiii]

You are a very interesting individual. I've been watching your videos for awhile, and you seem to base your experiments on just seeing what you can make. Most people have specific practical purposes in mind when creating, but I like your ideas that seem driven more by curiosity. Also, I know most Germans speak English. But I must compliment yours because many Germans don't try to use idioms or phrases. Because you do it is much more comfortable to listen to you as a native English speaker.

[@marcse7en]

My Candy Washing Machine is 15 years old, has never broken down, and unlike that Sienens, it's not got a speck of rust or dirt on it!

[@vthrash7832]

You could build a metal cutting bandsaw with that transmission and motor!

[@HeyBirt]

About 10 years ago I bought a new washing machine and about 5 years later it started leaking (out of warranty). It is a top loading high efficiency washer and I was able to obtain a new drive shaft and seal kit. I was surprised that the machine used a very large brushless motor (about 300mm diameter) with the rotor (with magnets) directly mounted to the drive shaft. The stator coils were mounted to machine. This means no transmission or belt reduction at all. To reuse this type of motor would be more difficult as the motor is really part of machine frame so one would need to cut the frame down to just save the needed parts or to fabricate a new frame for the motor. This would be interesting to try and use in a project though.

[@agopo]

You could use the motor plus a heating device to make your own industry sized (simplified) Thermomix. Could be useful for partys, when you make like ten litres of Chili con Carne with it. It would require a programmable input method though, similiar to that of a microwave. Basic functions would be Spinning speed, Temperature, duration of spinning, duration of heating, intervals, Go, Stop, Pause, Reset.

[@jeffmccrea9347]

If you can independently control the stator and field windings, you could turn this into a regulated AC output alternator. I realize that the EU uses 240 VAC @ 50 Hz but by varying / regulating the voltage to the field / rotor windings, you could get a stable voltage from it. Maybe use a battery and charger circuit. Some people use capacitors to energize field windings but I don't know how stable this would be. If it sets for a while and the capacitors discharge, you'd need a voltage source to get it started anyway so you may as well go for batteries and avoid the extra parts. This would make a good project for a water wheel driven alternator too. I saw a video years ago where a guy in New Zealand used the tub and motor from a front loader that had the newer permanent magnet motor. He cut flaps in the tub to catch down hill flowing water to turn the tub and motor. The holes in the tub kept it from filling with water through the cut flaps. He funneled the water into a pipe with a valve in it. He took the handle off the valve. He then direct wired a home made control circuit to the motor of a battery powered electric drill. He mounted the drill body to the apparatus away from the water and then he put the shaft of the valve in the drill's chuck. If the water flow was such that the alternator put out 240 VAC, the drill's control circuit was in balance and the drill did nothing. If the water began to flow too fast and the voltage increased, the control circuit would be out of balance and input a forward voltage into the drill's motor and it turned the valve partly closed to slow the flow of water. If the water slowed and the voltage dropped, the control circuit went out of balance again and input a reverse voltage into the drill's motor to open the valve to bring the voltage back up to 240 VAC and bring the controller back into balance. It showed the drill in action as he affected the water flow with his hand. It was really ingenious. I wish I could say that I invented it but that would be lying.

[@johnpossum556]

A cargo trike would be a perfect match because in the center jackshaft you could connect the motor's reduced speed shaft assembly to it via bike chain. It'd be about pedal speed. Might be a little low in overall power but if you only wanted to do 10mph it'd work fine.

[@wadejensen4146]

An easy build for a handle bar control (thumb switches, twist grip??) will yield many salvaged washing machines. Nice old vise my friend. Love my PAI hoodie and your perspective on history. Cavalier, North Dakota, USA.

[@Ziraya0]

I'm definitely interested in a dedicated motor controller for the mode of operation you've displayed here, I'd like to use an assembly such as this to roll a barrel full of aggregate, but it needs to go fairly slow compared to what this motor is capable of. Also if you could get any numbers on what kind of torque curves different controller styles offer, I feel like that's come up in a past video, I should go rewatch them all.

[@iwancanobiRC]

Would also like to see a project using this to generate power, it would be easy to add turbine blades to the transmission and you have a quick wind turbine!

[@crocellian2972]

First actual video in how long? No, this is the revisionist history travel channel!

[@kbhasi]

1:23 It's called "eBay Classifieds", but in some places, it's known as "Gumtree". Also, I didn't know Siemens made home appliances, but they probably only did in some parts of Europe. 3:46 Wait... is that acrylic?

[@davewilliams355]

Nicely done.

[@TheyCallMeRobbie]

Would love to see this motor powering a vehicle!

[@HUANERGP]

Kart or similar?

[@lsswappedcessna]

MOTORIZED SHOPPING CART!

[@jsg8803]

Hi i am having an automatic washing machine the problem is after filling with water the washing machine doesnot go into its washing mode but the led indication on it shows it entered in to its washing operation the fault is found to be in its circuit board is there any way i could use this washing machine as the cicuit board cannot be found as this is a very old machine and the company doesnot exist anymore

[@Tetzuoe]

this would be a godsend to anyone trying to motorize a barley mill.

[@thewmonster]

Seems ready made for a small bandsaw, eh +Matthias Wandel?

[@qualle9257]

Wie wärs mit nem Waschmaschinen-Motor-angetriebenen Kart? Das wär mal ein geiles Projekt!

[@cal9987]

Is it hard to find the brushes for them motors

[@brians6791]

how EXACTLY do you connect to the windings to control it like a DC motor? You skimmed right over that VERY IMPORTANT part!

[@bborkzilla]

These days the outer drum is made of heavy glass reinforced plastic with the support bearings for the inner drum's shaft pressed in. The motor is just screws directly to that. Most older washing machines in the U.S. are vertical shaft.

[@johnbouttell5827]

Excellent work. PS I love your voice.

[@petergranheim5975]

Hi. Great video's. Very inspiring. For these washing machines, have you considered making a parts tumbler? You are always washing old bits and pieces. Years ago I used to use one with a bit of soapy water to wash small fasteners, nuts bolts and washers on a slow speed. A mild tumbling action cleans them up a treat. Google parts tumbler. You can also add some sort of media for polishing metals if you have an interchangable drum.

[@Henchman1977]

The perforated drums make good fire pits for camping and such.

[@alexpr0gressive]

when will you continue the work on your tig welder?

[@Samsung-WF-S1062]

R.I.P nice and rare Siemens washer :(

[@gregsgarage1465]

You should look for motors out of electric mowers as well. Most are really high quality! I find them for free once every once in awhile and if I cannot fix them (most of the time rectifier issues) then I take them apart and keep the motors. Try one out if you get a chance. Cheers!

[@mmckinley345]

I would love to see you turn this around and use a pto imput on the large pully and connect an old generator or old belt driven compressor to the small end. or make it so u can swap out tools.

[@ChrisdeHaan]

I’d love to see a electric bicycle. Been thinking about trying to build one but can’t find an old bike frame my size to use

[@wartoc3708]

Is there a 'hacker' way to test the torque output of a motor? I was thinking of using a fishing scale with a piece of string or rope attached and wrapping the other end around the shaft (giggity).

[@johnjude2677]

What is HP rating for most washers also dryers

[@jasonpatterson8091]

How much power does this setup put out? I'm unsure how to figure it from your supply's meters with multiple feeds going to the coils.

[@DonovanBryant92]

i tore apart this old washing machine a few months ago and i have the motor but im still deciding what to do with it

[@DownHolidayRoad]

Can you attach the transmission wheel to a permanent magnet motor and use it with a water wheel to create power?

[@jamierollinson9354]

The drum makes perfect fire pits... Or as we used to call Them Autofires..

[@OOICU812]

Jamie Rollinson I recently had a Maytag washer quit and was eagerly looking forward to salvaging the drum to use as a fire pit. You can imagine my disappointment when I disassembled it only to find that the drum was made of plastic. 😱

[@JodBronson]

I agree, that Stainless Steel Drum so so valuable!

[@NorthernScrub]

That zinc die-cast three-pronged part is called a "Spider" FYI

[@apistosig4173]

what you've salvaged from this old machine would be ideal to run a grinding mill for we Homebrewers ;-) Gonna' pick-up the next one I see LOL - thanks

[@richardnanis]

This motor would be great to make a clay modelling wheel (Töpferscheibe)! :-) You can control the speed and torque - wonderful! For a potters wheel you need up to 250 rpm and enough torque. So this could be your next project!

[@selmirikanovic]

Do you know the power of this motor (watts)? I have the same motor i salvaged from Siemens washing machine but there is no power output marked anywhere.

[@Jimunu]

Would that arduino thing you suggested be similar to a variable frequency drive?

[@michaelwebb8788]

Do you think this setup would work to build a DIY bandsaw for my woodshop?

[@yves2075]

The good thing is that a German-made washing machine is about as well-engineered as a BMW or a Mercedes, so getting the engine and transmission from an almost free salvage washer is like free lunch - to the engineer. The list of applications is endless and includes reversing the logic to generate power from a wind turbine, for example.

[@TheJavaSync]

for the other brands, is it the same construction ?

[@ImedSamti]

Hey, Good work :)

[@emanueleriva2733]

What's the hp that this motor can provide? Enough for a log splitter?

[@imaginarymask]

would be very excited to see electric cargo bike built from a washing machine!!!

[@outrageousjon]

I've taken apart a few of these in the US. They typically have a 3ph induction motor in them. Not sure how they're going about converting the single phase power. I'd love to be able to use one of these for my projects. Have you come up with anything for this yet?

[@rayford21]

You can power them with a "Rotophase". You can use a cheaper "Add-a-phase" that uses capacitors for a second phase to provide the rotation, but you will have 1/3 less torque and is designed for a specific horsepower motor. Probably more expensive than what it's worth unless you have the components to build one yourself.

[@utthanabharata3389]

Hey, I need help. I am looking for motor which can rotate clockwise and anticlockwise. for example in top loaded washing machine. It should rotate 10 round in clockwise and next 10 rounds anticlockwise. Can you help me for this?

[@PhilXavierSierraJones]

Hey, looks like you're good at motor projects. I'm trying to literally UPSCALE a servo motor for slightly more heavy-duty tasks, with the focus on speed over torque. How could I do that? I hate to use stepper motor because it's so expensive here (to ship/buy) and I have to use software tricks to get accurate feedback. The thing will be used in a turret so it's important it doesn't crash into the end stop or spin out of control. Could you lend me a hand? (p.s. Drill motor here is easy to find and I'm going to use either DC or SMPS)

[@Engineerd3d]

Add some bicycle inner tube and use those wheels to build a large bandsaw.

[@ronyerke9250]

I really like the wheel assemblies on your hand-truck (trolley?)! Are they sold separately, or only with a complete tool? Who manufactures that?

[@bergatube60]

I have a similar motor lyiing around, but it has the same problem : 7 leads into the motor. How do You deside which lead goes to 200 V and wich is going to neutral??You never came around to that in Your nice video

[@buder5116]

washing machine motor are they working on dc or ac ?

[@janhanchenmichelsen2627]

Both on universal motors.

[@rentzepopoulos]

Have you considered salvaging a TDA1085 from such a washing machine and use it to control the motor? It's an interesting IC.

[@SpaghettiEnterprises]

I would be very interested in the bicycle build. I've been wracking my brains on how to create something similar using multiple vacuum cleaner motors since they are easily obtainable for free where I live. Unfortunately I do not yet have the skills needed to move forward with this idea, so it would be cool to see someone more knowledgable do it

[@MiggyManMike]

The drum, firepit :)

[@RawPeanut99]

Miele still constructs the counterweights from cast iron.

[@jimmyfavereau]

once again, you exceed Awesome.. thanks

[@alexscarbro796]

Show about a vertical axis wind turbine? The zinc casting would have been perfect to support the bottom of the blades.

[@randommisshaps7]

Whats the name of that piece of equipment you used to control the speed?

[@rayford21]

He mentioned the speed control he used was a home brew of his own design but didn't go into detail about its construction or circuitry.

[@randommisshaps7]

rayford21 that's a shame. I'll just have to build on then

[@ianbiggs5268]

Could you build a lathe from scrap. Would this motor work for a lathe?

[@aserta]

Gorenje also has cast iron and concrete. Bullet proof machines, rebuilt mine from the ground up for half the original price, and i'm expecting another 20 years of use out of it.

[@aserta]

Borax can eat through that cast piece on the shaft quite easily. I tried to clean mine, and it ate the whole thing with pockets, had to buy a new one.

[@larrymercuri9120]

loved the vid , was wondering though all that effort, for what? I'm sure theres a use for the brushless motor maybe a water pump ??

[@dharmeshsolanki4354]

can you make hand crank washing machine. i seen one in kickstarter

[@rafasilva8666]

was thinking of making an ev bike with those motors, would love to see how you would do such thing

[@antoniomontana2186]

Hi do you think with a little effort you can use the heating element and repurpuse it for compact camper van showers??? a video about that will bring you millions of subscribers...

[@januszchrzanowski5096]

very good useful video!

[@robertlaudensack376]

Hast Du schon mal überlegt die Drehzahlregelung von einer Machine wie z.B. einem Bosch Winkelschleifer o.ä. zu verwenden? das sind doch eigentlich auch Universal motoren ...

[@johanponin1360]

what's the max power of this kind of motor ?

[@geekmystique]

Great videography and detail on your videos, your english is very good! A lithium ion bike using a washing machine motor would be (ghetto) awesome- however you would probably need a proper gearbox (even planetary gearing?). With a 48v setup you could get some nice RPM/torque out of such motor, seeing that it runs on 20v already?

[@hugoknapp]

Would love to see a DiWould love to see a Direct Drive washing machine motor!

[@bellerbusch]

i've heard of using the stainless steel tub as a live well.

[@tommyhanlon8012]

Excellent, Thanks.

[@twocvbloke]

Most washers over here in the UK tend to have plastic drums, making modification a bit difficult, and ones like Siemens and Miele still fetch high prices even when broken because of the name... :\

[@8BitParadise]

twocvbloke I've never seen a plastic one mate maybe your just looking at broke ass peoples washers ;P

[@twocvbloke]

Inner drums are metal, the outers are for the majority made of plastic, some washer-dryers have metal outer drums, but they're a pressed steel which if cut up are as flimsy as tinfoil, blame the manufacturers, not the end-users for the cheapness...

[@LordZonaxe]

Could you use the motors on a wind turbine?

[@rayford21]

You can if you want to make wind instead of using it.

[@jusb1066]

some germans cannot pronounce the W sounds, but you can just fine! does it depend on which part of germany/austria you are from?

[@r.t.5667]

Yesit is so

[@jusb1066]

thank you, appreciated.

[@Scott_C]

Make a vehicle. You were admiring the electric bike in the previous video. You now have a spare motor to work with... Make it happen. :)

[@derarty4290]

YES! Make it happen :)

[@derarty4290]

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[@jakobhilleskog6731]

Would love to see an electrical vehicle! Do you have any schematics for the motor? Have a very similar and do mot really understand it! Thank you fpr great content!!

[@darrencruz649]

TPAI can you use that as a electric bike motor

[@benvonjerry5136]

Top Video! Mehr davon ;)

[@TheChipmunk2008]

We have a siemens Extra-Klasse machine (think it's a bit more recent than this model tho, maybe 15 yrs old)... damned reliable machine :)

[@alanpartridge2140]

The build quality of the cast iron part looked superb.

[@SciPunk215]

Really? The inlet valves operate on line voltage ??

[@Braeden123698745]

They're probably solenoids, those always need some power to switch. Plus AFAIK they're not on for very long.