Asus wins vs Core i9 Stability issues! Easy fixes for the i9-13900K and 14900K

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I should make it clear that when I say "Asus wins", I merely mean for making systems stable. Not for getting the best performance results or benchmark scores. It's just nice to play without crashing. I am also no expert on BIOS settings. If you know how best to improve performance while maintaining stability please feel free to suggest it

[@Solrac-Siul]

*******You should NOT set the vid behaviour to intel failsafe unless everything else was tried and the cpu continues to be unstable*****. Fail safe behaviour is intended as a last resort . SVID behavior influences AC load-line, which ties into Vcore. Setting it to fail-safe sets AC LL to the essentially the highest value possible, which in turn increases Vcore. This means that the vast majority of chips set at fail-safe are effectively overvolted, when that may not be necessary and can even be counterproductive. the changes to iccmax and pl1+pl2 and disabling multicore enhancements should normally resolve the problem.

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

JayzTwoCent made a video about this and ASUS' settings and he was pretty critical about ASUS. He had some recommendations of his own.

[@MrNDLES]

@@Solrac-Siul Yes, I had a max vcore @ 1.6 with Intel Failsafe SVID

[@Solrac-Siul]

@@MrNDLES that is why people should not use failsafe svid unless strickly needed.

[@highatyt]

The guys who put my PC together turned on fail safe mode. I’m having crashes. I need help. 14900k ASUS z790 plus wifi d4.

[@zlayo_cro]

Be aware that setting SVID Behaviour to Intel's Fail Safe might be a bad idea for your CPU's life expectancy, as it will grossly overvolt it to over 1.5V under load. I have seen it go as far as 1.57V while running Cinebench. Set it rather to auto or Typical.

[@aaron3713]

Noticed this to. Was hitting 1.5v constantly.

[@chillz315]

Thankyou!

[@Emily-Choii]

does the P-cores also need to be undervolted to 5.6 mhz rather than 5.8 ? i have heard this could also be an issue for instability so i have set mine at 5.6 and my VIDs are reaching 1.421V

[@theendurance]

1.5v is fine for intel 13th gen+. people are way too cautious with electronics

[@LorentGuimaraes]

These motherboard manufacturers need to be hit with a class action lawsuit. These crazy settings are likely responsible for CPU degradation

[@railshot888]

Intel: Please make sure your mobo gives us enough power so we can beat AMD. Also Intel: It's mobo mfr's fault to not give us the proper power.

[@LorentGuimaraes]

@@railshot888 Can you provide a source that shows Intel asked the board partners to do that? IIRC, for as long as the 14900K came out, the specs have always been PL1 125, PL2 253

[@railshot888]

@@LorentGuimaraes Can you site your source that Intel hasn't done it? They blacklisted TechYesCity not complying with their request. A company this bad will do anything so they could win. They paid a benchmark company to test Ryzen at half core count too. Are you that uninformed? Or just sheeping for Intel?

[@CYGAN19911]

I got Asus b760 f was ok but not best later z790 hero ...mess like hell now going back to old asrock I know it's Asus but it's better pcb is thin and band a bit but working good and bios setting clear and not trashed

[@PabloEsReal]

Bro, THANKS a LOT! On february I built a PC for a company and they demanded to have the 14900K. I was losing my mind because of Intel bullshit, but with this video I was able to set Performance mode and stabilize the built! Now everything works and they called me for another 2 PCs!

[@cemsengul16]

Well I tried these exact settings you showed on the video for my 14900k. I never had crashes in games but my pc heated my room like a furnace and stutters in game. These settings make my pc run hotter. For me I found I was happiest with just applying the Intel baseline profile and not adjusting anything. I know I am gimping the processor with 280 amps etc but now my pc runs ice cool even in games with my aio and my games run better. I will stick with the "incorrect" Asus Intel baseline with svid set to auto instead of Intel failsafe.

[@codenameenigma9922]

Same for me😊

[@jacobusstefanuspotgieter1332]

How does that affect your cpu performance. Did your game FPS increase or decrease?

[@cemsengul16]

@@jacobusstefanuspotgieter1332 My fps was the same but it would stutter. I now switched to bios defaults then ticked MCE Disabled Enforce Limits. I set SVID on Auto and LLC to 3.

[@whymaniacwhy6879]

Cem hocam merhabalar, anakartım MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI, işlemcim I9 14900K. BIOS arayüzüm farklı olduğu için bu ayarları bulamıyorum. Ben de işlemci ısınmasından dolayı oyunlardan atma sorunu yaşıyorum. Videodaki ayarlar yeterli mi yoksa ekstra ayarlar yapmam gerekli mi? Bilgi verebilir misin sana zahmet.

[@FrankBarnhill-n4t]

Hi, just wanted to take a moment to say that this video is the only one that helped me get my Asus z690 Maximus Extreme motherboard. It was so bad at first it wouldn't even download 7zip or Chrome. I was so angry at Windows 11 last night when I finally took a break that I thought twice about Linux again. I used it last in the 90s. LOL. This helped tremendously as my system is now very stable. My bios was different (3802) but using your suggestions, I found what i needed. Thanks so much for sharing. I have over 30 hours getting this thing stable. I've been doing this since 1987. Have build at least 1 of every generation of intel cps. Mentioning this as this has been the most difficult to get functioning better than the one it replaced.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Glad to help

[@paulhill4746]

This is the single most helpful video I’ve come across to help with my issues I’ve had on my system. Similar setup (msi z690 edge WiFi ddr4 + 4080 + 13900k), and I was getting ready to throw my pc through a wall with how unstable it was. This fix introduced a stable system, and one where I can just open games and not worrry about “will this start!?” Thank you and please update as you learn more!! THANK YOU!!!

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks Paul. There's a newer bios update which I need to check out and make a video on when I have time but it's meant to be even better

[@paulhill4746]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Awesome!! Looking forward to it! Thank you again for making amazing content; I always find myself returning to your channel when looking up reviews. Very similar taste/perspective on tech. Keep up the awesome work!

[@huseyinbehzetoglu4784]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Thank you for information. I have a question. Do you recommend us to use the settings in the video for the new BIOS update? (Asus 1302 and 13900k) Thank you

[@ZomgZomg007]

i could be wrong but i read ASUS "Intel Baseline" isn't setup right, and its running 253/253 or something like that instead of the actual base, so thats why your score was still better.

[@evan-du3vk]

It's extreme witch is still recommended by intel. You just need to have good mobo and good aio cooling

[@Hardsky5123]

@@evan-du3vk It's recommended but they also recommend the real base line settings which limits the CPU to 125-188w

[@evan-du3vk]

​​@@Hardsky5123 yea 3 are recommended baseline, performance and extreme. If you cpu runs cool and stable on extreme what's the point on keeping it down??

[@Hardsky5123]

@@evan-du3vk it’s stable for a while…

[@righteousone8454]

253 is fine, but I noticed that in benchmarks it will push past 253 just a bit and some E-Cores will clock down I undervolt and run 260 limit on long and short duration. Essentially it's based to give some room. I also turned off Multicore Enhancement that pushes chip past 300 watts easy

[@Emiilhansson]

Great video, this was exactly what I have been looking for after buying a i9 14900k with the Asus proart z790. Thank you very much

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Glad I could help!

[@SwingArmCity]

You really think it's fixed? You're in for a surprise.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@SwingArmCity if update is done early enough it might be. Intel has now said it's extending warranties to 5 years so there's that too. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@SwingArmCity]

@TheProvokedPrawn damage is already there regardless if intel says "micro code will fix." Intel hasn't been forthcoming with this problem, and I wouldn't trust their so-called extended warranty.

[@Kapono5150]

I still think 13th and 14th Gen CPU’s need to be reviewed again with the power limit set in BIOS

[@nadtz]

Quite a few outlets did benchmarks with power limit and without and no small number of 13th and 14th gen owners did as well. Searching "i9 power limit benchmark" will bring up results going back at least a few years.

[@interceptor001]

I RMAed a 14900k that was unstable at full power but stable at 253. They exchanged it without a problem.

[@Kapono5150]

@@interceptor001 Nice, I’m sure many are doing exactly what you did

[@the12gaugeshotty]

My 13600K runs at 6GHz rock stable using a Noctua NH-U12A air cooler. Runs hot but doesn't throttle and no issues. Perfectly stable.

[@mariodevita661]

​@@the12gaugeshotty Hello, I have the i7 12700k with the asus rog strix z690-a d4, I am cooling it with a 240 water cooler but I did not overclock it if it undervolt Vcore to 1.15V

[@jacktown005d9]

I think you saved my i9! Thank you. My settings were WAY above what was recommended and I did change them and surprisingly it did test higher then with the ASUS settings. Thanks again.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Glad I could help!

[@glennquagmire3258]

Enabling PMIC to treat each memory stick separately and not as an entire block, you will find additional stability especially if you are using 4 sticks of memory. As he said, the first re-boots after changing values train the system to your CPU and memory and storage devices. That first boot can take 5-10 minutes. Be patient, and then some, and then some more. It will finally boot to Windows or give you a BIOS message that says it doesn't like a setting you changed. (doesn't tell you which one, unfortunately.)

[@nadtz]

When I built my 13700k I was very disappointed Gigabyte's bios by default on a creator board was the same "Unlimited Everything" they use on gaming boards. Took a couple hours to track down all the bios settings I had to change to get things running at intel spec but it was worth it. Went from thermal throttling instantly when benchmarking to running at about 91c on air and like you mentioned Cinebench scores were a little higher because the CPU wasn't throttling. After also undervolting temps dropped to 89c and minimal change to benchmarking scores. I know most of the publicity has been around the 13900k/14900k but some 13700k owners have also reported problems so yeah. Also Asus's baseline spec isn't actually set properly, there are still some changes that need to be made to be properly in spec according to various reporting after Asus released the bios. That said it's better than it was so I guess it's a step in the right direction. Still waiting on Gigabyte to actually get it right, they released a bios that was still wonky so I didn't bother upgrading then they pulled it a few days later.

[@massoudwazir6389]

I have i7 13700k and gigabyte aorus z790 Elite AX Motherboard I don't see any crashes in games all settings is default

[@nadtz]

@@massoudwazir6389 Not surprising with a sample size of one. As far as I'm aware it seems to be luck whether a particular 13700 or 900 can handle the outrageous defaults motherboards were running and overall it seems the 13900/14900 were 'failing' more. That said the 13700k does seem to be affected and for my own peace of mind I'd rather run at spec.

[@hugheffo]

I now have a new bios for my ASU’s TUF Z790. It now defaults to Intel performance mode, but you can change it to extreme. I then used intel tool to boost p cores to 6.00ghz and so far no issues. Max temps around 82oC on my i9 13900K

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks for sharing

[@brupleal]

My main concern was about the performance, but as you showed, it will be better. I don't know if that will be the same case for every proc, but it is very promising at least. Update: lost about 15 fps after updating the bios and using intel specs. So yes, it degrades performance A LOT. I've tested it only in one game so far, Deadspace, and lost about 15 fps/average, the game was a stead 130 before, now there are times it even goes lower than 100. Talking about a i3 13100f. Gonna keep using Asus profile until it dies on me, then gonna jump to a 12900kf.

[@cheekster777]

I have an ASUS ProArt Creator WiFi 6E Z790 motherboard and had planned to pair it with an Intel i9-14900K but after learning about various issues with that CPU plus the imminent release of the LGA1851 platform, I’ve decided to hold off until the official announcement(s) and see what new features etc are on offer before going ahead with my new desktop PC build.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Probably sensible

[@cheekster777]

@@TheProvokedPrawn 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@cemsengul16]

Is Intel baseline profile safe? I heard it increases voltages. Does it make your pc run hotter? I just hear a lot of mixed information. Some people say Intel Failsafe Svid option is for CPU that are dying.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

As far as I know it's safer than the default motherboard settings.

[@cemsengul16]

Do I just click enabled on C States but leave enhanced C states off? I heard some people complain that enhanced c states causes coil whine. I noticed your video didn't show that option. My motherboard is a dark hero.​@@TheProvokedPrawn

[@upnext2511]

I got a 13600kf and asus tuf z790 pro wifi mb and before these intel default settings new bios my cpu temp was never going up to 60 degres and the performance was perfect and now with intel default settings plus intel fail safe my temps goes up to 75 degres in game lol and cinebench test 88 degrees watercooling at max lol what a joke i can't imagine the temp on i7 and i9 ...

[@obg3915]

Did the same settings now pc wont open thank you :)

[@Arixfishy]

Clear cmos

[@apex_chris]

The intel "baseline", "performance" or even "extreme" profiles will absolutely *destroy* performance in your Asus rig. Will your PC run cooler? Yeah. Will your cinebench drop to 30k, sometimes even 15k?! ...ummm YEAH, that too! lol.... Honestly it's better to go back to the Asus OC profiles, learn about each setting yourself in BIOS, along with some settings in XTU, and just try to strike a reasonable balance between daily performance vs. temperature. Games will never exert the load that benchmark apps do, thats why theres no need to worry about your system overheating during a gaming session provided youve also sorted out some of the extreme issues happening... and cooling solution is a big one too!

[@peterbroad6793]

Didn’t Intel come out with another list of after the Intel Baseline settings? This is getting very confusing.😮

[@righteousone8454]

I had 300 watt limit set since the beginning, but I think my Gigabyte motherboard still managed to degrade my first 13900k, because it still showed 511 amp limit, which I later changed to 400 after rma'ing first 13900k and getting new replacement Since then I have watt limits set to 260 on long duration and short duration. I run 5.5/4.3ghz Before I RMA'd my chip, I was already getting those "Out of video memory" warning with 1st 13900k. Boards really jacked up the watts for no reason. I should also mention, I run Multi-Core Enhancement as OFF, as it will drive the chip into 350 watt territory with ON, while hovering around 251 watts max with Multicore Enhancement OFF

[@labemolon5739]

I’m getting way too many CTD and BSODs with a 14900k and 14900ks…even though temps are relatively cool (40-58c). CPU stays at 6ghz (14900k) and 6.2ghz (14900ks) but when it drops to lower speeds (both CPU’s) *that* is when it crashes. I’ve purchased several memory sets thinking it was 4 dimms, then 2 dimms, xmp, no xmp. The only solution I’ve had work is to disable Cstates, disable speedstep, and lock speeds at 5.8ghz on all P cores, and 5.5ghz on e cores. Very frustrating with all the CTDs in PUBG and other games.

[@eliesercepeda686]

That’s a bad chip. RMA it. I have the same exact issue with my 14900KS. You shouldn’t down clock if you set the settings to default or per recommended by Intel.

[@Wowplayer345]

Any idea where tjmax offset is? Can’t find anything on p4 either. I also noticed no values with thermal velocity boost bins, just like yours. Though watching jaystwocents video it gives him values of 85 and 95 where it should drop 1 volt at each threshold. Thanks for the videos, they’ve been a great help over the years!

[@WhiteWolfTechGaming]

Appreciate the info on this subject

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Appreciate you watching

[@SkemeKOS]

My i913900k says it is Power Limit Throttling. Does anyone know what I can do to stop that?

[@peterneururer9398]

whre can u see this?

[@skullen2286]

very helpful, brother

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks Scott. Glad you think so.

[@adamtajhassam9188]

@@TheProvokedPrawn now what about ppl w out Asus board - we we all go buy this board now or did msi and other brands planning on following?

[@AncientDragonMusic]

if you want your cpu to be stable with 12th-13th-14th gen processors you should manually set your AC/DC LL and then your problems should go away if its set right

[@mordrynxds8759]

You save my life , thanks you

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Glad to help

[@s1nb4d59]

Always enjoy your videos hope to see some more AMD builds in the future!!!.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Sadly I've only got one AMD CPU 😂 but I will be making more content of course

[@s1nb4d59]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Bro ive been AMD since the early 2000's and never looked back,just so little content out there,we need some love

[@xxBladex3x]

IA TDC Current Limit when set to Intel’s Default seems to set current limit to 200A regardless of ICCMAX/PL1/PL2

[@wagagagaggag]

My computer was freezing when playing cs2 so I look into this. But even after enabling the intel base profile and changing the voltage to 400w and PL1 and PL2 to 253 (13900k), I’m still thermal throttling when testing with cinebench or XTU stress test. I wanted to know if your system still thermal throttled after enabling these settings, in the meanwhile, I will test if the game freeze still occurs or not after these settings.

[@r1dl3ygaming41]

any updates bro?

[@DustyCruz]

Don't enable AI Optimization on Asus motherboards if it has that feature. That crap will mess up your system as I was constantly getting clock watchdog timeout errors and had several app crashes and mozilla tabs would crash as well. Stuck with normal and I've had zero issues. my highest temps when under load or when playing a CPU heavy game was 80c. I'm using a ROG STRIX Z790-H.

[@amvcnt5079]

Hey! Thanks for your video! I recently built a pc with i9 14900k and asus z790i motherboard, and it works very well. I just hear a slight purring sound and that I think is from the processor. Im a music producer and I don’t need the full performance of this processor. It’s a really small noise but I would love to make it lower. Could you please tell me (if you have an idea) wich settings can I edit in the bios processor management in order to make this purring sound dissapear? Thank you very much

[@jp99575w]

At TS 6:44 you noticed a significant drop in CPU temps, did you also notice a drop in temps at idle? And if so how much of a drop?

[@adamsleath]

short and sweet. cheers.

[@Pandemonium088]

Asus was like lets just do 280A ICCMax and call it a day, lmao!

[@ricardobeltran2554]

Question I am about to build my PC with Asus mobo intel asus Z790-H gaming and an I7-13700K processor WITH A BASE MEMORY OF G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5600, I have to download The last bios the Intel Baseline Profile option, or with the simple function, disable enforce all limits on bios, or what do you recommend first, please and help thanks,

[@leborn7535]

На i7 это не повлияет, мое мнение

[@erikhendrickson59]

The "Intel Defaults" on my Z790 Prime reduced my 13900k Cinebench score from 40k~ down to 24k~ Fucking inexcusable.

[@reallove5677]

Great review.. yes Asus motherboarda are the best. From design to their software and bios its the best of the best...cant say that for that parts that goes in it....

[@MhillPlays]

Something is off with this new Bios, the 2 cores that boost to 6Ghz seems to be doing it in games now which results in some crazy temp spikes. I was playing BF2042 which does result in some hot spikes in the 80's for a moment, but those 2 cores spiked to 100c, yet actually gameplay is in the mid 60's. I do not understand that kind of spike. Has TVB been borked?

[@CarputingYT]

Derbauers direct die cooler is out I bought that and am putting in my new 14900ks build

[@ricardobeltran2554]

Hello bro I have i7 -13700k What would it be, how did you set it to 253-what would it be like on i7-13700k?

[@glennquagmire3258]

I wish Intel still made motherboards for retail/small OEM purchases. My bread and butter is machines for business use and are never going to be overclocked. There is no money in warranty service. Even worse when a lot of RMAs were done needlessly because of the default BIOS settings by ASUS and other manufacturers.

[@itsmrakira]

I mean I'm still getting the Current/EDP throttling even after tweaking and testing not only these settings but also trying to find a sweet spot

[@webkoros]

It’s the « intel default profile » that should be used. Not the « baseline » that can cause underpower issues.

[@nextlevelsimgaming]

Theres a new update TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI BIOS 1661 Version 1661 11.3 MB 2024/07/10 Can you please do an updated video for this?

[@elita2cents]

The biggest problem was, that all main-board manufacturers set the voltage regulators to produce too much voltage for the current being drawn. From high-school physics class we know, voltage * current results in something with watts. The watts are the thing that makes the CPU become hot. The current was less of a problem, but the more voltage you put on a current, the higher the watts will go too. I had up to 1.598V being shown in HWInfo, which is way too much for my taste. And even thought, you can find the maximum possible voltage you can put on a 13700 or 13900(F/K) and 14th Gen. is 1.7 volts. In my experience, no 360mm AIO will be able to cool that down to an acceptable level. After updating my bios, the voltages were much more down, resulting in much lower and easier to manage temperatures. One funny side note, with all the Intel default factory settings and manually setting both power limits to 253 Watts, my 13700K went from 29000 Cinebench23 points to 30900 Cinebench23 points with stock clocks and a max core temperature of 82°C, very far away from any throttling being done. That Intel "Thermal not very much velocity boost" will start to thermal throttle your CPU at 70° C, not matter what kind of cooling you are using. The Tmax temperature for the silicone is 100°C, so a temperature of 71°C will not kill your CPU, but anything above 100°C will.

[@ARandomPerson-lg5ih]

My 14900k works fine idk what he is talking about

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Good for you. See you in a year.

[@7MDv]

Intel solution is stupid imo , basically it cuts ur performance when it's surpasses the power limit, the problem is why is it reaching the power limit in the first place? , i think a better fix is to undervolt ur cpu , with undervolting u get lower power draws , lower temps and get this BETTER PERFORMANCE.

[@gusmlie]

You mentioned one game engine, so how is that not a culprit. We know UE has bad optimisation so how is it that all of a sudden cpus are blamed?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I don't think it's exclusively UE it's just prominent there.

[@hassanaslam6008]

The only should change is the Core CPU and long term and short term duration. With these settings my PC was idling at 88 degrees. Intel fail safe should not be turned on.

[@SwingArmCity]

@Emiilhansson Don't get too hopeful. I wouldn't trust intel at all. Also, asus says they can make it stable? I wouldn't trust them either. They've been in the news for all the wrong reasons too.

[@rahulmehra9513]

What did you decide to end up running ASUS intel baseline or intel guidelines I’m seeing quite a big improvement in performance with the intel guidelines over ASUs intel baseline but a lot higher temps when putting the amps up to 400

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

The easiest fix is obviously the Asus fix but tweaking for the Intel ones do seem to keep stability but result in thermal throttling more. However, the stability seems good with both and obviously thermal issues will differ from system to system as my test is with a small case and not mega airflow

[@frossstysan]

It's not Intel default, checkout specs

[@bryanennis1996]

I have a question. Every time I try updating bios it tells me to back up bitlocker key before updating it and I already did but it still tell me the same thing. Do I press yes?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yes

[@Shuttterbugg]

Never use intel fail safe even with this situstion...that is not recommended dudd

[@ohuskeyo]

Still having same issues yet downgrading to i7 14700k temps and crashing not a problem however having insanely bad 1% low fps drops anyone have a fix for this ?

[@elchancho8432]

I’m confused Jay2cents just uploaded a video saying how Asus fucked it up and it’s terrible settings for i9

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

because he's only looking at benchmarks and not testing gaming stability. Which I've spent this week doing. Make up your own mind. Yes, it's a downgrade for performance/benchmarks and yes, it doesn't tick Intel's boxes, but it sure does stop the crashes and that's what matters to me and probably others.

[@azilux]

No crashing or BSOD here But Here's the situation and computer i9 13900 4090 ROG Strix z790-a ii D4 3200 32gb ram Rocket league runs perfectly fine, as you'd expect but as soon as we stream via discord/obs the capped framerate of 360 drops completely to half and it becomes unplayable BIOS Version is the oldest one so that could be a issue, we've gone through all hardware accellerations, drives are empty, fresh install, motherboard + graphics drivers installed but can't find a solve for this specific problem, but seeing all this news about the 13th gen CPU's is worrying, anyone else experienced a similar thing and got any advice?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

you'll still want to get the latest bios

[@blockbuster9610]

new information says it's the oxidization process but all these things in the video will help your CPU last longer. I just actually wonder if it is the oxidization process that is causing the problem since intel has said nothing. Of course, when all this comes out is the time I decide to buy a i7-13700kf... so I'm probably going to monitor the voltages for a few days or see if intel says anything before my warranty runs out.

[@mariodevita661]

Hello crack! I ask you, I have the i7 12700k along with the Asus rog strix z690-a d4. I don't have the latest version of bios that Asus released, I do have the previous one 034. If I updated the latest one, will it give me problems or does it only happen with gen 13 and 14? greetings

[@madclone84]

I have an i9 14900k with an asus rog maximum z790 dark hero. Zero issues other than it does spike to 85 at the highest while playing helldivers 2 ultra settings. But other than that. Runs like champ. First pc I’ve ever built

[@devinmilazzo1888]

I'm not going to lie I'm about to build with this same motherboard and CPU, however I've heard horrible stories of updating bios and it makes me kinda nervous cause I'm not all that intelligent when it comes to bios settings

[@TheGadgetFreakk]

Dont be afraid about the bios update “If you are running the same motherboard as shown in the video”, you should have access to bios flashback incase things dont go well The motherboard has dual bios, so in the event that you experience something go south You will still be safe

[@Demiseiii]

Hello mr Prawn I updated my bios to the latest (ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO BIOS 2202) and did exactly as what was presented in the video. Now when I play games like Spider-man miles morales, high on life and etc it hits 100C constantly it only says 170-253 watts and my cooler is the Arctic Liquid Freezer II and had the cpu on a contact frame with an mx-4. I really don't understand the numbers being high and my fans just goes 100% just because the CPU is hitting 100C while playing games idk what the culprit is. I even exited all the background apps and software running in the background. Do you have any suggestions? My room temp is fine 24C with windows open. I even tried lowering the graphic settings to see if it'll impact the temp. It was still hitting 98C-100C. If there's something you can suggest lemme know. :D Love the informative video btw. Keep it up! Additional: I was just watching jayztwocents' video talking about asus mobo and settings. I COULD HEAR THE FAN RAMPING UP. THE CPU WAS REACHING 100C (especially the P-core 5)

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

This is goofy using the intel baseline profile? Was your system getting that hot before?

[@Demiseiii]

@TheProvokedPrawn not this often lol. Before it will go high temps but that's after a period of gaming. Now when I just open a game the fans ramps up because the temp goes wild. Update: Nvm fixed it lol. I just noticed i used 400a instead of 307a and it was reachibg 6Ghz lol.

[@TGameplay4k]

@@Demiseiii how is your temps and performance now with that fix?, also... you on 14900k?

[@Double_Flash96]

Ohh that reason my Fortnite was crashing, and sometimes I’ve shut down my pc ..I was thinking the problem was my motherboard nzxt n7 z790 now I have asus motherboard I love all new features there have

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

No issues?

[@dolareta8257]

asus apex encore (800$ mb) was frying my 14900k for months and now i cant even open discord on baseline settings with this cpu, i dont know who wins, but i definitely lost

[@BoomerCosmo]

Thanks for all the info. Lol i dont even have an i9 but this was a cool lesson

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks for watching!

[@coyote2029]

At 11900k is alsou high power limit over 4000W as Maximus XIII Extreme so i think not only 13 and 14th gen has that

[@1Unknown88]

I can't even boot up to BIOS when I install i9 14900k on prime z790-a and had MOBO bios updated with cpu i3 12th gen on

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Have you tried flashing the latest bios using bios flashback?

[@1Unknown88]

@@TheProvokedPrawn prime z790-a wifi don't have USB flashback if you meant that one back of the port🤔

[@SpaceItaly]

for me baseline profiles reaches 90 degrees temperature even idle.. not recommended

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

yikes

[@cemsengul16]

Yeah I went back to normal Asus settings without MCE. The baseline was a scorcher for me too.

[@SLICKOMODE]

You might want to check if your cooling is seated properly.

[@justanobody4983]

I dont know why mine acts differently(14600k). Asus settings, 1.2v cpu and temps are average 60c but when i click on the new intel settings it goes up to 1.4v cpu and 70c average while gaming. What should i go with? For the meantime i have it on asus settings coz of lower volt and temp.

[@NateFromIT]

MCE Disabled - PL1 PL2 253W 307A and set SVID to Typical Scenario and I have not had any issues and no over heating

[@HakunaMatata0054]

Never again team red from now on, bought 13900k its a scrap scrap cpu switched from 5800x3d to this piece of metal which is way worse than amd 5800x3d so with 7800x3d is not even comperable

[@zemotika]

My old ryzen 7 3600 is better than this crappy i9 14900kf.

[@emirmisel2446]

Thank you sir top legend 👊🏼

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks for watching!

[@emirmisel2446]

How can the boost clock itself to 6ghz when a game session or check that 6.0ghz is working and my current SP 95

[@NASSERQ8305]

I made the settings in the video and they are really good, but when testing the processor stress, the performance of the core drops to 4.6ghz. Is this normal? Can you do tests on the best among the settings of Zeus, for example, enabled - remove all limits 90 or disabled enforce all limit or baseline profile . thanks for helping me with the i9-14900k crash like 2 months problem.

[@MatthewSemones]

in my mind this was still a huge failure on behalf of motherboard manufacturers. no overclocking features should ever be "on" by default. it never should have happened. also, these fixes while seem quite simple to me are going to be VERY intimidating to users with less knowledge. not everyone who owns a PC is tech savvy. i hope that moving forward intel and the various companies that produce motherboards resolve this issue or oversight depending on how you view it. i know several people who have migrated to AMD as a result of this debocile. honestly, I don't blame them. we are talking about a lot of money when it comes to building a PC in today's financial climate.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

yup, you're not wrong. But at least the easiest fix is update bios then press "Intel Baseline Profile", but you're right that you shouldn't have to

[@JensHove]

Thanks.

[@YeahhDan]

okay, so i'm using Intel Baseline profile and all of my games are now stable, except for Valorant. No matter what I do, i can't get only that game to stop crashing. Is anyone else here experiencing this issue?

[@Anthony-fd8mh]

Can you also show us how to do this on MSI's Bios? I have an MSI MEG ACE Z790 and a 13900KS and not super comfortable with the Bios but I can find and change some stuff, but they way they name some things get a little confusing. Would really appreciate it if ya could.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Already have 👍🏼kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4HKfId_f9h-mJY

[@Anthony-fd8mh]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Thanks!

[@highatyt]

Will this fix tarkov crashing?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Should help, yes

[@highatyt]

@@TheProvokedPrawn help or fix? lol I’m so upset.

[@SuperDuDDe]

We are not supposed to mess so much with bios..it should be fixed before lauching and giving free...u are are intel fan and u should say dont buy before they fixed it...best regards from one who had hes i514600 kf for 2 days before it burned off.intel sucks atm.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

The latest bios updates are easier and just have default options to choose which do it for you but yeah.

[@sebastianmartin6504]

You are God!!!, This is exacly video I was looking for. Thank you so much!

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks! Hope it helps! :)

[@lihuan9634]

As Always,A Pc Saver ✌

[@andreadesiano561]

Doesn't work of course... no more Intel processors

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

hmmm. It does work? I tested it and saw marked improvement. Have you downloaded the latest bios.

[@Kingvoakahustla]

Yes Asus best motherboards maker

[@dennis.oosthuizen]

Great!!

[@jaymcs]

what are the recomended settings for I7 14700K?

[@neigebuttert]

I've put 1.26 vcore, runs stable, also pl1 pl2 253 W

[@Nerd-Freaki91]

13700k runs terrible with this. way better to disable all eco cores and turn higher llc on and increase watt and time and that to 384 and lock cpu on 5.1 ghz and 4.0 ring. way more stable way less stutter smoother gameplay and fine temps. yes cpu drops to arround 21-22k cinebench but way smoother gameplay is worth not to have e cores.

[@615f]

Eager for full gigabyte Aorus version

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I'm hoping to get to that when I can.

[@615f]

@@TheProvokedPrawn i understand, it's just that some of the names of the settings are not quite the same. So it's difficult. I was actually trying this all last night. I'm stable but I think with some of the other settings enabled I could move from 307 amps to 400. Fortnite crashed at 400a

[@Hardsky5123]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Gigabyte has actually implemented the real intel base line settings. Asus fucked up

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@Hardsky5123 I'll be interested to see. I've not checked.

[@Filmmaker809]

So, I should update it to the latest version now? I'm using the Asus Z790 Hero with my i9 13900k.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

If you're experiencing crashes and stability issues then yes.

[@Filmmaker809]

@@TheProvokedPrawn I'm not, but I was thinking it would bring the temperatures down. I'm using the bios before the Inte baseline profile version.

[@mariodevita661]

​@@Filmmaker809 version 35 of the bios gives problems. I have i7 12700k with rog strix z690-a d4 and I am using the previous version. I haven't updated it so far. If I do, will it give me problems?

[@Filmmaker809]

@@mariodevita661 Thanx for your feedback. Yes, I'm using the bios version just before the latest version and no issues as of yet.

[@TKbullet]

Please can you make the same video like this but for Gigabyte motherboard?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I am going to at some point

[@highatyt]

My core voltage is 1.439 on 14900k is that okay?

[@neigebuttert]

I put 1.26 on 14700k and it runs stable, the lower the voltage the lower the temperature

[@VictorBlanchard-cb1mv]

shame on intel . Now I will buy amd forever

[@TheGadgetFreakk]

Quick question: Im considering choosing the profile Running the 14900k with a Z790 Dark Hero No crashing/Temperature issues However, my frames are dropping and are unstable and 1% lows are dropping sometimes Do you reckon if the profile will help? Or is this targeting a different issue all together Also, if i just select the intel baseline profile without adjusting anything else, is that safe?

[@the_great_reaper]

good video but this is absolute cringe from asus, not only they cost more but also this? embarrassing

[@winstinwin7650]

So I’m worried about updating the bios to the new version so I just manually set everything from the Intel spread sheet, but with the Asus intel base like I’m this video it was set IA TDC to Intel baseline, any idea what IA TDC is? And any idea what it should manually be set to??

[@jacknash3365]

Thanks prawn very useful.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

You're welcome 😊

[@Bojcha76]

Aged well.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Still works to help with stability, so yeah.

[@Xm_gamerX]

​@@TheProvokedPrawnHey man for some reason i dont see the Intel baseline profile in my BIOs any idea why?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@Xm_gamerX you have the latest version of the bios?

[@MaxRobinson-ue1sy]

You are god

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Hope it helps

[@allcore5172]

Asus is trash

[@cheekster777]

Thank you my friend.