The Strange History of DEAD KENNEDYS

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@ThePunkRockMBA
@ThePunkRockMBA Жыл бұрын
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@dalelane1948
@dalelane1948 Жыл бұрын
should do one on how Henry Rollins' career so closely mimicked Jello's - like a budget dumb guy version
@TVsCHACHI
@TVsCHACHI Жыл бұрын
BAD BRAINS
@TVsCHACHI
@TVsCHACHI Жыл бұрын
FEAR
@JAMES-dv5ns
@JAMES-dv5ns Жыл бұрын
Hey I remember you asking what we wanted to see next and DK was one but please tell you’re gonna do a video on Coheed & Cambria
@dickystrike6966
@dickystrike6966 Жыл бұрын
@@dalelane1948 same CIA script
@aahzee69
@aahzee69 Жыл бұрын
The irony of "before we talk about the Dead Kenedys, let's hear from our sponsors". 😂
@toecutter
@toecutter 11 ай бұрын
Ironic, yes. But they real funny thing is it's an ad about trimming your junk.
@chryssoraidy9838
@chryssoraidy9838 11 ай бұрын
gotta pay the bills
@chryssoraidy9838
@chryssoraidy9838 11 ай бұрын
@@toecutter well, they gotta advertise something that appeals to the viewers.
@marysalisbury9270
@marysalisbury9270 11 ай бұрын
I noticed that.
@unbroken1010
@unbroken1010 11 ай бұрын
​@@chryssoraidy9838crusty punks need one
@enzoadimari2416
@enzoadimari2416 Жыл бұрын
Me at 15: The Dead Kennedys are right about everything. Me at 21: Actually these issues are way more complex. Me at 30: But really it comes down to larger systemic issues. Me at 50: The Dead Kennedys were right about everything.
@rabbithowls71
@rabbithowls71 11 ай бұрын
I am living this too!
@chibiangi
@chibiangi 11 ай бұрын
The fact that the songs still hit because as society haven't progressed is sad. Riot is an ever relevant song. So many others come to mind too.
@hiding_my_name
@hiding_my_name 11 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@JustJonny17
@JustJonny17 11 ай бұрын
Goofy
@davehoward22
@davehoward22 11 ай бұрын
I saw them on their last british tour,and saw jello do a spoken word gig a few years back and he spoke for hours..
@rocknrollnichole1071
@rocknrollnichole1071 11 ай бұрын
I accidentally found the Dead Kennedys by finding my deceased brother’s record collection. He passed in 1987. I found the record “bedtime for democracy “ around 93. I’m 43 now and still consider the Dead Kennedys the best punk band ever. Maybe it’s the emotional part or maybe it’s just the fact that they changed music in the punk/surf side of underground music forever.
@terrypussypower
@terrypussypower 11 ай бұрын
“Bedtime For Democracy” is awesome! ALL their albums are awesome! But especially “Plastic Surgery Disasters” and “In God We Trust” (even though that’s an EP!)
@rocknrollnichole1071
@rocknrollnichole1071 11 ай бұрын
@@terrypussypower the cd has both on it. It stays in rotation!
@somedude5951
@somedude5951 9 ай бұрын
I also love de Dead Kennedy's, but I find The Fall the best Punk band. Some say The Fall is post-punk though, I'm not sure about that.
@justme6591
@justme6591 8 ай бұрын
Crap way to find a great band
@justme6591
@justme6591 8 ай бұрын
But you're bro left you something great
@johntucci8826
@johntucci8826 5 ай бұрын
Was driving with my 18 yr old son, he was playing stuff on the radio, puts on Soup is good Food, I was so proud
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls Жыл бұрын
I think jello Biafra would get a kick out of the guy selling a ball trimming kit before starting a biography about the DKs
@contextspecific
@contextspecific 5 ай бұрын
Would have appreciated a demo 😂🤣😂
@hernanhenriquez6778
@hernanhenriquez6778 3 ай бұрын
Idk if he would considering this guy is making his own product in a capitalist country as much as DK did. I don't get the ideology that selling sponsors is selling out you choose who can sponsor you in a free country jello was angry they were selling out to a clothes manufacturer that uses probably Cambodian children to sew their clothes... If u ban comercialing yourself you are then living in a communist country
@HillarySmirkingClinton
@HillarySmirkingClinton 3 ай бұрын
Jello was a communist. In other news, REAL pumps don't trim, they SHAVE the balls...except a little strip down the center. Then ya bleach it THEN dye it neon green. Liz Vicious says so.
@mrjswain123
@mrjswain123 3 ай бұрын
Ok this guy just won the comment section haha!!!
@thenewchurch1191
@thenewchurch1191 2 ай бұрын
Seeing them play without Jello is not better than nothing. I declined to go to a so-called Dead Kennedy show recently just for that reason
@jacobprice8048
@jacobprice8048 Жыл бұрын
I live in the East Bay. Jello is super cool. He still goes to shows and never tries to make a spectacle of himself. He seems to be there to enjoy the show like anyone else. Despite his notoriety, he's a fan of live music. I respect that
@solearesoul
@solearesoul 11 ай бұрын
He never tries to enjoy the show?
@chryssoraidy9838
@chryssoraidy9838 11 ай бұрын
"He seems to be there to enjoy the show like anyone else. Despite his notoriety, he's a fan of live music." When punk was coming around, it wasn't about fame. It wasn't about being commercially viable, or radio-friendly. It was raw and authentic expression. A lot of people didn't know how to play music but wanted to, and learned on the fly. But it was about having something to say, or something to get out of their system, and being as overt, loud, openly creative, aggressive, and FREE as possible. Jello had a helluva lot to say, and he had some really killer musicians to back him up. It wasn't the same then - pay through the nose to see some famous, or soon-to-be-famous rock star. This was underground. It was raw. And the people who felt it were so few a first, you ended up knowing the folks at the gigs. (Unless you had the same social anxiety i did, lol). It was a community - even a family, and most of us just didn't fit in or want to fit in with society. I mean, being spoon-fed what you should feel or say just doesn't cut it. Punk kind of overcompensated for that, and it's become good and bad for society. The good was the freedom of expression. It was personal, cuz the hard messages came from kids who had hard lives. Then there are kids who have it all, but are just negative and need to lash out. ETC., ETC. Both were getting loaded, and sometimes the acting out was violence that went beyond a copesthetic slam pit. Things got ugly, especially when heroin and meth started changing everyone. But punk didn't completely implode. Punk is Dead was the saying early on because of all this. Gangs were forming. Punks were turning on punks. It was kinda like a mental hospital at times. But that's what the world has been coming to for the last 50 years anyway. Been watching it unfold, and it sucks. Internet made it worse, because now everyone thinks they're an expert on shit they've never been involved in, because they read about it. Like most things, you had to be there. It's what the elders have to say about their scenes, and it's what you younger people will be saying, if you aren't already. But what matters, and what a lot of people don't get, is that punk is more than music or a look, or just being snotty. It's a subculture that got popularized by the generations that followed it. And it's still music, and the early punks who are now famous because of it are just as passionate about music as ever. OF COURSE Jello was just there to enjoy the music. WHY WOULDN'T HE BE? Music is his medium for his freedom of speech. And if you love music as an expression, or just to listen to, you kind of never lose that. A lot of us old farts aren't tearing up pits anymore, but we still do shows, because there is nothing like the community of live gigs. That's how it started anyway. Everyone knew each other, cuz it was more about what was happening than setting up some stage show to get famous from. Sure, fame happened, but hell, some bands just have a sound, etc that appealed to a broader audience, like X and Social Distortion. No rock stars. Just people making the noise they love to make. When you see someone who influenced you, or who you feel is important to what you love, tell them. They're just humans. They like to know. They don't need you to interfere with whatever they're doing, cuz they're just like you - doing their own thing. I'm glad some of our punks are famous. It's weird to have to get expensive tickets and VIP passes to be able to say hi to folks you used to share sweat and beer with, but there isn't enough room to fit everyone backstage. But i get being starstruck. I mean, music is fucking magic, right? Look what it can do. A single song can take simple words and change people's lives. You'd be surprised who many people who created the subculture are walking among you, looking like they are on their way to Costco for groceries. Not everyone has "that look". We can grow out of attitudes and ideas, but our history is etched in stone. Listen to an old punk talk about life. It's amazing how diverse the ideas are that you'll hear. But it largely is just about not being led by trends. Like something because it speaks to you, not because it's popular. Popularity is what happens when everyone follows others with their eyes shut. Don't get me wrong - being popular doesn't make you lame - but how you got that way is key. We got people to see our bands by scribbling out some crazy art on a flyer, and running around handing them out, pasting them up, sticking them on news shelves and in places where potential interest was. Nobody was paying for likes. Punk wasn't about getting rich - it was about getting up and making shit happen. yada yada Get off my lawn
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 11 ай бұрын
Well yeah, that used to be how all punk gigs were. You’d almost always see members of the headlining band in the crowd watching the opening bands. There was no rock star bullshit. Band and audience were on equal footing, and would feed off of each other’s energy. Jello’s just doing what he’s always done.
@doobiousd5020
@doobiousd5020 10 ай бұрын
I grew up in the East Bay and DKs were formative for me like they were for many others. He went to a lot of shows and seeing him at Gilman as a kid being a relatively regular dude was super influential.
@NullStaticVoid
@NullStaticVoid 10 ай бұрын
frankly I'm surprised he goes to punk gigs at all after that disaster of a Gilman show where some crust punk broke his leg. I caught a lot of flack from the cool scene kids for saying Jello is actually a cool person. They just couldn't fathom that someone who is a famous punk rocker like Jello isn't a millionaire and just drives an old brown hatchback. Strangely Dick Lucas didn't get the same treatment when he lived in the bay area.
@dennismorgan2230
@dennismorgan2230 Жыл бұрын
Hi Fin,fat old punk guy here. In 1985 Jello was doing his spoken word tour because they were not allowed to play music,due to the lawsuit. I went to see him at my local coffee shop and he signed the passenger door of my 66 bug. Later that week I went to see the Butthole Surfers in SF and he was there next to me in the pit. DK was definitely a part of my youth. Good times ❤
@ProbablyOnLSD69
@ProbablyOnLSD69 Жыл бұрын
I would kill to be able to have seen the Surfers in the mid 80s
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
That was definitely the best time to see the Butthole Surfers. From roughly ‘84-‘87 nobody could touch them as a live band. As I’m sure you know, the intensity and insanity was off the charts back then. I’m 56, grew up in Texas, and saw the Surfers many, many times. Perhaps more than any other band I’ve seen. I watched them evolve over the years, and in that mid-to-late 80’s period they were just unbelievably good. Always an acid-drenched mind blowing experience. I also saw them with DK’s (and Circle Jerks) in ‘85, at a heavy metal club of all places in Southwest Houston, and it erupted into a full blown riot. They overbooked the show, had all these obnoxious roid-raging security goons antagonizing the punks, and then the a/c cut out right at the beginning of the DK’s set. This was summer in Texas. It was easily a hundred degrees with 60% humidity. The crowd just snapped. The cops were there in no time and were arresting anyone who left the building. I managed to sneak out the back and hop a fence into a drainage ditch without being seen. Insane night, great memories.
@davehoward22
@davehoward22 11 ай бұрын
Saw them loads of times,got smashed over the head by gibby with a microphone (he thought,wrongly,that I'd spat on him)
@sprig5173
@sprig5173 10 ай бұрын
They came to Australia (late 80s) and we're absolutely awesome.
@jlobiafra
@jlobiafra 10 ай бұрын
​@@Shikta-poobah67was that at Cardis?
@chrisnorman1902
@chrisnorman1902 Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing someone sing Holiday In Cambodia during a karaoke night, and they thought the lyrics were 'cold, hot' instead of Pol Pot
@DrMetPhD
@DrMetPhD Жыл бұрын
This is the funniest thing I've ever heard
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
@@DrMetPhD ikr 🤣🤣🤣
@chernobylcoleslaw6698
@chernobylcoleslaw6698 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 Жыл бұрын
We had a song called Coldcock and swear had never heard of them at the time but the ‘chorus’started out exactly the same.
@Shockabilly1956
@Shockabilly1956 Жыл бұрын
I'm guilty of that. Now I know😂😂
@comradecid
@comradecid 8 ай бұрын
@13:35 that kid with the green mohawk was my best friend, a truly kind and devoted person, and is missed to this day. thank you for that moment.
@TheSdrake1967
@TheSdrake1967 11 ай бұрын
The Goth Kids from South Park said it best when they said "If you want to be a non-conformist, all you have to do is dress like us and listen to the same music we do"
@austinwalker2000
@austinwalker2000 8 ай бұрын
In other words conform to not comforming lol
@blastradius7193
@blastradius7193 8 ай бұрын
I was a Goth kid for a while, we all wanted to be different just like everyone else.
@turferguson1219
@turferguson1219 8 ай бұрын
Per se
@TraciEaston-hs5xe
@TraciEaston-hs5xe 8 ай бұрын
I have said that for 30+ years!
@TheSdrake1967
@TheSdrake1967 8 ай бұрын
@@TraciEaston-hs5xe Greatest show ever, one of the best episodes. Incidentally, I have Easton in my family on my mothers side.
@papakilodelta5099
@papakilodelta5099 Жыл бұрын
I love the Dead Kennedys. The manscapped ad made this really hard to start.
@DarknessYT2010
@DarknessYT2010 11 ай бұрын
guess the dude got get paid ..he does pretty good job
@meth_user
@meth_user 11 ай бұрын
No one cares
@DonovanPresents
@DonovanPresents 10 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for KZbin chapters for that reason tbh!
@_c_y_p_3
@_c_y_p_3 8 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with keeping the nuts shaved though unless you trying to go natural 😂
@matthewdurkin9543
@matthewdurkin9543 7 ай бұрын
man's gotta pay his bills
@TrumpetsInMy4x12
@TrumpetsInMy4x12 Жыл бұрын
The Dead Kennedys were FANTASTIC. One of the most diverse punk bands that ever existed. Killer musicianship in their given style and song writing while still being RAW and punk af.
@Nemo71340
@Nemo71340 Жыл бұрын
I actually love the frankenchrist album. Its got a eerie psychidelic feel to it that fit really well for the time it was released.
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
Love Frankenchrist. It actually got a lot of hate at the time because it really didn’t fit with the direction punk had gone in up to that point. In ‘85 when it came out, the whole thrash/crossover thing was really taking off, with hyperspeed tempos, barked vocals, metallicized guitars, and songs clocking in at under a minute… and Frankenchrist kind of took it in the opposite direction. The songs were longer and more mid-tempo than they had been on previous DK’s releases, though like you said it had this sinister, psychedelic… almost gothic vibe to it, kind of like their version of The Damned’s Black Album. I thought it was really fuckin’ cool at the time, but I had friends who absolutely hated it. I personally thought “Chicken Farm” was one of their all time greatest songs. That one still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
@vitalsignscritical
@vitalsignscritical Жыл бұрын
What about the Give Me convinence or give me death Album? He didn't even mention it, I hoped he would talke about it and it's gory obscene looking cover.
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
@@vitalsignscritical Wasn’t a real album, was it? Just a compilation of singles, b-sides, compilation tracks, and outtakes. Don’t get me wrong, essential stuff, great thing to own snd great cover art, but an after the fact compilation nonetheless. He was probably just focusing on the real time albums, EP’s, singles. I don’t know, didn’t really watch the whole thing. Didn’t need to.
@monkeyballs512
@monkeyballs512 Жыл бұрын
@@vitalsignscriticalbecause it’s a compilation album. Love it, but you don’t count it among a band’s Original releases when counting
@TheZogsvengali
@TheZogsvengali Жыл бұрын
@@vitalsignscritical It's a compilation of unreleased and singles, not an official album of new stuff. That's probably why.
@erickjackson8118
@erickjackson8118 Жыл бұрын
Saw Jello play with the Melvins and the entire set was Dead Kennedys. I would say that's better than seeing the Dead Kennedy's play with a different singer.
@johntucci8826
@johntucci8826 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I saw that too, I was pretty fucked up for that show but I do remember it was fuckin great
@lars_g_sorensenswitzerfoot6677
@lars_g_sorensenswitzerfoot6677 5 ай бұрын
Whatever...
@jaylawrence5240
@jaylawrence5240 10 ай бұрын
So Jello Biafra did some great stuff later on that is definitely worth checking out. Best one Jello Biafra and DOA 'Last Scream of the Missing Neighbor'. The song 'Full Metal Jackoff' is just amazing.
@normanmacfarlane6724
@normanmacfarlane6724 3 ай бұрын
I hear you . That album and that track are sublime . Great album , great track ❤😂
@benweaver9151
@benweaver9151 2 ай бұрын
His collaborations with Mojo Nixon were great too
@TwinCitiesRailfan
@TwinCitiesRailfan 22 күн бұрын
Don’t forget Lard
@darreneffle4118
@darreneffle4118 Жыл бұрын
54 yrs old and still believe punk is a mental and social statement . its a way of viewing things. Love the band and all they did for a lot of people . thanks for the great vid.
@davidmarles8492
@davidmarles8492 Ай бұрын
Agreed, good hip hop is punk
@spinningindaffodils
@spinningindaffodils Жыл бұрын
I really like the fact it takes exactly one member to be missing to make it a tribute band. Really shows just how important Jello and the way he sees the world is what makes the band what is. There's always room for Jello.
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
It all depends on which member is missing. In the case of the DK’s, it *DEFINITELY* ceased to be the genuine article without Jello. I have nothing against, let’s say… Klaus, but if it had been him instead of Jello they could have carried on with a new bass player and would have still been able to call themselves “Dead Kennedys” and mean it. That’s just not possible in Jello’s absence. Plus, the guy they replaced him with? Brandon Cruz? Seriously? It felt at the time like we were being trolled.
@bassdaddy65
@bassdaddy65 Жыл бұрын
To me, it's not the Dead Kennedy's without Jello Biafra. Sorry, i'm just saying.
@4narchydigital
@4narchydigital Жыл бұрын
Jello and east bay ray and it would still be legit aka not a tribute band. But imagine op ivy or rancid trying to tour with out tim Armstrong.
@kevincostelloe4006
@kevincostelloe4006 Жыл бұрын
The proof of it not being the dk's without Jello is the fact that the remaining members haven't written any new material.
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
@@kevincostelloe4006 And even if they had, it still wouldn’t be the DK’s in my opinion. The only reason they didn’t change the name of the band was because there’s $$$ to be made off that name. That’s literally *ALL* it is. A money machine. A cash cow. I don’t mean to dismiss the others’ talents, which are/were definitely notable, but Jello was without question the heart and soul of the Dead Kennedys, love him or hate him. It’s really as simple as that. No Jello, no DK’s. End of.
@jckorn9148
@jckorn9148 Жыл бұрын
"Moon Over Marin" is one of my favorite songs, ever. Such a chill relaxing song about not a very relaxing topic. How we're destroying the only home we'll ever know.
@sociallypatterneddefect9580
@sociallypatterneddefect9580 9 ай бұрын
Lol😂. That's their worst song in my opinion
@mikecostine6521
@mikecostine6521 9 ай бұрын
Actually a really good song.
@crossr1984
@crossr1984 9 ай бұрын
I was scrolling specifically for this comment. It's one of my favorite songs... Ever. The post-apoco feel is subtle but really dark, the music is nostalgic and chill. In the video he didn't have much to say and I've never really hear anyone else talk about this song.
@bleduramstat8062
@bleduramstat8062 9 ай бұрын
I squish dead fish between my toes try not to pick up any bones I turn around go home on my beach at night bathe in my moonlight ❤ there will always be a moon over marin
@ososkid
@ososkid 8 ай бұрын
I grew up in SF graduating high school in 89. I went to a lot of shows back in the day and Moon Over Marin always stood out to me and I would have never guessed it back then, but I’m writing this comment from Marin. I can confirm the moon is still here
@MarkWilson-ij9jd
@MarkWilson-ij9jd 11 ай бұрын
I had a classic "never meet your heroes" moment when I spoke with Jello after a spoken word event.
@MaraJadeSkky
@MaraJadeSkky 11 ай бұрын
Do tell! Don't leave us hanging, man!
@sirapos6550
@sirapos6550 Жыл бұрын
The ad that the guitarist put on the newspaper ,read like "musicians wanted to form a band. Contact : address blah blah blah,East Bay,Ray",or something like this and this is how he got his stage name.
@lucaslouzada44
@lucaslouzada44 Жыл бұрын
Spot on! DK was beyond anarchism. It wasn’t even about counterculture. It was a sort of rebellious existentialism.
@teresathomley3703
@teresathomley3703 Жыл бұрын
Good call.
@oceanaxim
@oceanaxim Жыл бұрын
Well spoken my friend!
@thestrum71
@thestrum71 Жыл бұрын
True....
@chadwik4000
@chadwik4000 Жыл бұрын
Anarchy is only ever a power vacuum anyways.
@nospoon4799
@nospoon4799 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@locomike102
@locomike102 Жыл бұрын
As I get older (I'm 48) and my political views skew and shift with my life experiences, I realize more and more how incredible their songs were. The were not "political" per-se but rather anti-establishment and outrage at the status-quo of disenfranchisement of any opposition to the ruling class (regardless of who is ruling). Their songs fit with being dissatisfied, angry and frustrated with the world around us, and I think this is the punk ethos.
@frustrateduser9933
@frustrateduser9933 Жыл бұрын
You'd think it'd be more common, especially in bands whose identity is based on rebellion and nonconformity but 🤷🏻‍♀️
@noahpauley
@noahpauley Жыл бұрын
They were explicitly political. Sorry that you can't pick up on that type of shit.
@dp1381
@dp1381 Жыл бұрын
Too bad Jello become what he always hated once COVID came around and scared everyone. Suddenly he was in favor of pushing the jab on everyone in the name of “public safety.” He really lost me there. In that moment, the veil came down and it was clear that he wasn’t anti-establishment, just another power-hungry leftist who cries victim until he sees an opportunity to seize and wield power.
@tidmarshXC
@tidmarshXC Жыл бұрын
They were arguably the most political band until Rage
@locomike102
@locomike102 Жыл бұрын
@@noahpauley Political as in endorsing a specific ideology/political party. I understand things very well, but it is a pity people can't have a civil discussion without ad hominem tactics.
@ZachComa
@ZachComa Жыл бұрын
I saw Jello while he was on one of his spoken word tours in 2003. While he was on stage, someone from backstage came up to him and spoke in his ear. Jello informed all of us that the U.S. had officially invaded Iraq...again. Up to that moment, everyone in that room had been protesting and fighting against the invasion. The entire crowd collectively shared an inevitable horror that finally became real. That will stick with me forever.
@gossamerglenn6714
@gossamerglenn6714 Жыл бұрын
Sure Thst wasn’t George busy? lol
@truthhurts79
@truthhurts79 Жыл бұрын
Now jello sold out to the very establishment he was against
@countrytodd4614
@countrytodd4614 Жыл бұрын
Now he endorses Joe Biden, oh how the mighty have fallen
@jwigley3835
@jwigley3835 Жыл бұрын
@@Wheels36H3WM the left loves war now.
@wankertanker1813
@wankertanker1813 Жыл бұрын
There is no statute of limitations on war crimes. They will be remembered forever more as such, first and foremost.
@OrbVroomer
@OrbVroomer Жыл бұрын
RIP Darren Henley 1959 - 2022 ( D. H. Peligro )
@robertdegraaf8708
@robertdegraaf8708 11 ай бұрын
I had no idea. I met him at a meet and greet after a DK show in 2014 (from memory). Super nice guy, a true gentleman, absolutely gutted to hear, and cause of death just depressing.
@madhatte73
@madhatte73 8 ай бұрын
way underrated drummer, not enough said about him
@benweaver9151
@benweaver9151 2 ай бұрын
Such a powerhouse of a drummer
@mash2481
@mash2481 Жыл бұрын
Their lyrics just let you know this shit has been going on for decades. People pretending like all this is “new”, either don’t have a clue, or are part of the machine themselves.
@microchrist6122
@microchrist6122 Жыл бұрын
Skateboarding popped in the 90s and started gatekeeping super hard as well, hand in hand with what was happening with punk
@ThePunkRockMBA
@ThePunkRockMBA Жыл бұрын
Early 90s skateboarding was one of the most toxic, awful scenes I’ve ever been around
@nickmaatjes5611
@nickmaatjes5611 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePunkRockMBA late 90's and the beginning of the 2000's were also awful and elitist, gotta say that the best i ever felt in the subculture is now, happened a lot, and fore the better if you ask me
@seanmckelvey6618
@seanmckelvey6618 Жыл бұрын
@@nickmaatjes5611 Quite honestly, that shit survived in pockets into the later 2000s and 2010s. It's a much better scene now for sure, but you still get a handful of older guys who still feel the need to gatekeep the shit out of rolling around on a plank of wood with wheels because they know what "real" skating is.
@KnowOneNoWhere-86
@KnowOneNoWhere-86 Жыл бұрын
​@@ThePunkRockMBAyou're obviously meant to exploit scenes you shouldn't be a part of
@erroneous6947
@erroneous6947 Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@joninterglad
@joninterglad Жыл бұрын
I had a friend who has into DK back then and he had all the info on them. This was prior to the Internet and it was amazing that he knew so much about this band from California. The music was eye opening for sure and started me on my journey to punk music appreciation.
@oceanaxim
@oceanaxim Жыл бұрын
Back in the day of cassette tape exchanges and home made fanzines made on photocopiers.
@CasaNowhere
@CasaNowhere Жыл бұрын
The records came with an address where you could send I believe a dollar and they would mail you like a zine that had all sorts of additional information and context about the songs. Jello was a marketing genius before that was the norm.
@PollyHistor
@PollyHistor 6 ай бұрын
​@@CasaNowhereAlternative Tentacles 🖤☠️🖤
@georgehaas1774
@georgehaas1774 Жыл бұрын
So glad this vid is made, my dad was best friends with the drummer of the Dead Kennedys and he sadly passed away last year but it was such an honor to meet the guy cause he just had such finesse to punk drums! East bay ray was exactly what you would expect and claus just asked how my aunt was because that’s his ex 😂
@HotStrange
@HotStrange Жыл бұрын
DH was a machine.
@MrBlackHimself
@MrBlackHimself Жыл бұрын
HUGS
@thebeardsgarage
@thebeardsgarage Жыл бұрын
No better drummer in punk.
@btwells72
@btwells72 Жыл бұрын
RIP DH
@Mr.Steve-O
@Mr.Steve-O Жыл бұрын
Back when punk rock was anti - establishment and rebellious, 79-82 was the golden era
@Lekkah666
@Lekkah666 3 ай бұрын
I'd like to add 76,77 and 78😂
@dirkfromhein
@dirkfromhein 2 ай бұрын
I mean I think ‘83, ‘84, ‘85 and ‘86 also count … I mean those are the Rollins years for Black Flag. The Ramones were still very active till ‘87 with Somebody Put Something in my Drink , Humankind, all of Too Tough to Die was awesome! Who can forget Bonzo Goes to Bitburg. The Dead Kennedys were still going hard and caused quite a stir in ‘86 with Frankenchrist…
@sw4610
@sw4610 Жыл бұрын
Conformist was and is my favorite song by them. It stands out because it calls out the conformity that had become the norm in other bands, and it also becomes reflective at the end by including the Dead Kenendys themselves. He realizes that he was a part of the problem as part of the "punk leadership.'"
@a.fritoaxecheeto6052
@a.fritoaxecheeto6052 Жыл бұрын
You did a good job on this, gave a hard pill to swallow on the many gate keepers, punk is an elitist social club, DK took aim at hypocrisy, jello was often ridiculed in the scene and was beaten up couple times for those lyrics which cut too close to bone, good job thank you, many blessings
@LannieLord
@LannieLord Жыл бұрын
In the late 1980s I was sending my art samples to record companies to get album cover jobs. I got a nice hand written letter from Jello in the mail ! (even though I never got many art jobs -- I got nice letters , personal photos (Shonen Knife) and was put on the Meat Puppets guest list!). Some of them were my pen pals (Dead Milkmen) before the internet happened.
@claytonbouldin9381
@claytonbouldin9381 Жыл бұрын
I met the Dead Milkmen after they played a show and they are the most down to earth guys. No pretentiousness to be found. They signed what I had and even signed some stuff I brought with me for some friends who are fans, but couldn't make the show.
@thedude883
@thedude883 Жыл бұрын
Are you still active in your art?
@johnthebastard6283
@johnthebastard6283 Жыл бұрын
Cris is a character, I've had several interesting conversations with him, I had alot of questions usually regarding what was going on during writing or recording albums
@juliadixon8465
@juliadixon8465 11 ай бұрын
Yo
@JohnSmith-fq7hj
@JohnSmith-fq7hj 10 ай бұрын
Now that is a cool story so many on yt are bs and it's really obvious but this sounds like a real thing lol
@danaaxelson6200
@danaaxelson6200 Жыл бұрын
I am 70 year old retired drummer. In the late 70’s they stopped in Boulder, Colorado where I was student at music conservatory. They called my percussion prof at university and said they needed drummer. They were on the way to NYC. So I met with them and jammed for a while. I didn’t know who they were, but they were okay. They liked my playing and offered me gig. I turned them down and maybe have regrets. After they reached a certain amount of fame, that I was reading about them in rolling stone magazine. I thought, man I should have took that gig and would have maybe chance of hooking up with Debbie Harry. 😂 My teacher was pissed for turning down a job that could have been a paying gig. After all, that’s what I was there for. Making money playing drums. Oh well.
@matthewbecker7389
@matthewbecker7389 Жыл бұрын
Everything for a reason, sir. That's a great story, though. (And it is a shame Debbie missed out.)
@mr.donkey4069
@mr.donkey4069 Жыл бұрын
cool story bro except i'm not being sarcastic, that's actually a cool story
@jlrinc1420
@jlrinc1420 Жыл бұрын
I am pissed you turned down that gig and I don't even know you!
@Jeeiff
@Jeeiff Жыл бұрын
Wow...that's tragic. Why on earth would you pass that up...knowing them or not. Oh well.
@jlrinc1420
@jlrinc1420 Жыл бұрын
@Jeeiff My guess is that as a percussion major he looked down on a lowly punk rock band. I'm pretty sure if it had been a small jazz band of some repute he would have taken the gig. I have seen it before. When you are in music school you are a better musician than 95% of the other musicans in the world and you are constantly being told how good you are because you really are. When you are that young you dont have the experience to keep your head from inflating and when a bunch of punk rockers come into town they aren't good enough for you. His professor knew the value of paying gigs though because he has just been around longer. He knows you don't throw away good food you eat it. I had a gig once at a fraternity house one summer. Just a 3 piece rock band. The drummer couldn't make it and we didn't know what to do. We were walking through the music building and there practicing was an absolute drumming legend. He was a teaching assistant for the percussio section of the marching band and was working on a masters.in performance. I knew him pretty well and I figured there was no way he'd want to do a gig with my crappy little band. As soon as I mentioned $50 and free beer for 2 hours at a party he said Yeah I can do it. I didn't even want him to do a rehearsal with us but he insisted. I thought that an experienced musician. Not throwing shade I have just seen it before, it's a music schools syndrome that passes when you graduate and have to start earning money.
@l.salisbury1253
@l.salisbury1253 8 ай бұрын
"Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables" is, along with the Germs' "(GI)", the closest the US came to "Never Mind the Bollocks"...!
@twelvmnkys
@twelvmnkys 7 күн бұрын
My father was an S.F. lawyer for many decades. In the 1980s, he and his partner became lawyers for the Dead Kennedys. This really lit things up for the Christmas and Saint Patrick's Day office parties. In the past, all the people at the parties were straight-laced people in suits and dresses. But when the Dead Kennedys and their girlfriends (with mohawks and safety pins for ear and nose rings) would come, everything changed. The conservative folks stayed at one end of the office suite near the food table. The Kennedys and their friends were at the other end, at the liquor table. And my dad's partner would let everyone use his office as a coke room, where people would snort up and then walk out while rubbing the white dust off their nostrils. I always hung out in the Kennedys' section. Those parties were a blast!
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls 4 күн бұрын
Sounds like a nice daydream
@metropunKK
@metropunKK Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite artists of all time. I'd love to see you interview Jello Biafra or do a podcast with him.
@07plokoon
@07plokoon Жыл бұрын
R.I.P. D.H. Peligro
@RenegadeBeef
@RenegadeBeef 11 ай бұрын
I think it’s funny that you launched right into your Dead Kennedys‘s history punk rock right after a two minute ball shaving commercial….
@ChristofBernhart
@ChristofBernhart 25 күн бұрын
Fell in love with DK when I first heard Hellnation from Frankenchrist when I was about 15 back in 1988. Then I went straight back to the earlier albums.
@raypelino7713
@raypelino7713 7 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the Dead Kennedys, my all time favorite punk band
@jefferygreenacre7056
@jefferygreenacre7056 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap. A punk rock video on the Punk Rock MBA. It’s a Festivus miracle
@ThePunkRockMBA
@ThePunkRockMBA Жыл бұрын
I’ve made dozens of punk videos! Or are you one of the people whose definition of punk stops in 1983?
@jefferygreenacre7056
@jefferygreenacre7056 Жыл бұрын
I’m messing with you Finn. I absolutely love your videos and have been a subscriber for years. I find your videos to be very informative and entertaining. You are one of my favourite creators
@Danielson540
@Danielson540 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePunkRockMBAbru, it’s a joke.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePunkRockMBA Oof 😖
@jasonfuentz4282
@jasonfuentz4282 Жыл бұрын
🙄@@ThePunkRockMBA
@pinkskiesinmars
@pinkskiesinmars Жыл бұрын
Dead Kennedys were my introduction to the genre, when I was about 13 too, and what an introduction. And yet because I then wasn't fluent in English, I don't think I fully appreciated them until I was in my late 20s when I started looking at their lyrics closely, and they blew my mind. I love a lot of bands with meh lyrics, because good music is hard to deny, but damn when a band has a message and knows how to get it across, I appreciate that so much. Brilliant band. So relevant, such a legacy.
@timdavis4852
@timdavis4852 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of DK. I have them tattooed on me. They helped shape my politics at a young age. I discovered actual anarchist political theory as opposed to whatever lawless hellhole most punks think anarchism is. Their lyrics also inspired me to do activism and community outreach
@acescottking
@acescottking 10 ай бұрын
I was a high school senior in Orange County when California Uber Alles came out and I was amazed that there were other people who thought the state was becoming a horrible joke. The idea of suede denim secret police was the perfect description of the laid-back, be mellow lifestyle I couldn't stand. I'm not saying the Dead Kennedys changed my life, but they sure helped me understand what it was that I didn't like about my home state.
@clarkdissneyer8225
@clarkdissneyer8225 7 күн бұрын
A much better overview than I usually expect to get from youtube videos. Good job!
@jeffreyscott6074
@jeffreyscott6074 Жыл бұрын
I first saw the DKs in 1979, opening for Sham69 at the Whiskey in Hollywood. Jello joined the us in the pit for Sham after the DK's set. Great show, every DK show then was fantastic. In the early days of punk 75-80, anyone who into Punk was a misfit or outcast, with a wide variety of looks, perspectives and sounds. We were a small minority of the general culture at the time. Considered dangerous and weird by most. It kind of felt like being in a secret club, where only other punks truly understood.
@MrJmasfca
@MrJmasfca 11 ай бұрын
FACTS- Class of '77 here. You had to be there to grasp how musically revolutionary it was for rock music to go from a developed and matured art form, to something entirely new. The tones were different; the tempos and time were fresh- from an in the pocket classic rock time to one where the time (beat) was constantly falling forward- think Vibrators Pure Mania. Personally, I didn't give af about the fashion or politics originally- this was a new form and take, on Rock-N-Roll. What Duane Eddy would sound like had he been a '70's kid. I still recall how I did not understand the RAMONES, despite being in the Tri-State Area at the time and well aware of their presence. I've concluded yrs later that it must've been bc my brain was wired to a blues based 1-4-5 turnaround rock form, and of course that was the genius of the RAMONES- that they created an original song structure. Salute!
@bigmtnskier420
@bigmtnskier420 Жыл бұрын
"It definitely wasn't about just Slavishly emulating what other bands did 10,20, 30 years ago..." I have argued this point so many times, thanks for the great content Finn 🤘🏻
@robertcronin6603
@robertcronin6603 Жыл бұрын
Good vid - I'm 52 and I found the Kennedy's at 14 when I was a skater...I bought Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death at the local skate shop and it blew my mind....I had just begun playing guitar and writing poetry and Jello's lyrics were a *huge* influence on me...this guy is the real deal - his writing was about as truthful as it gets and lord knows we need some of that now...thanks for the video 👍
@ColeWheeler4Lyfe
@ColeWheeler4Lyfe Жыл бұрын
I’m a bit younger than you but same, bro same. ❤skating and DK on boombox.
@rabbithowls71
@rabbithowls71 11 ай бұрын
Same age, same story. Except I got Plastic Surgery Disasters.
@toddster596
@toddster596 3 ай бұрын
My cool punk rock story is that I met Jello at a record store in st pete Fla after his gig with his other band guantanamo school. He was super cool and hung out a lil bit. And then bout a week later i met the dead Kennedys with new lead singer before their show in Tampa! Always awesome meeting punk legends!
@tom33pr
@tom33pr 16 күн бұрын
Plastic Surgery Disasters is a truly exceptional album.
@orenom6704
@orenom6704 Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest bands of all time. No one sounds like them.
@octopoctapus9712
@octopoctapus9712 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this band and topic. The music scene has been overan by chickenshit conformists who’s sole identity is amplifying the message of the state and legacy media.
@chrispollard341
@chrispollard341 Жыл бұрын
Jello has gone on to do exactly this in recent years. As have most of his peers in punk rock.
@greasybumpkin1661
@greasybumpkin1661 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, even punk rock stars had to fill in their tax return, given they're self employed and all. A lot of your music faves are selling you a vision they don't live in.
@LeviBulger
@LeviBulger Жыл бұрын
I think you think that DK are right wing lol. They most definitely are not.
@RafitoOoO
@RafitoOoO Жыл бұрын
what's more punk than not leaving home because the government said so?
@matturner6890
@matturner6890 Жыл бұрын
@@LeviBulger still thinking in terms of "left/right" eh? Maybe time to not.
@SconnerStudios
@SconnerStudios Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest bands ever. It's sad they broke up in such a nasty way. I know everyone always thinks of Clash, Pistols, and Ramones as the 3 main punk bands, but I think Dead Kennedys should be grouped with those 3 as the original great punk bands. You make a good point on Where Do You Draw the Line, too. They really were the philosophers of punk rock.
@meowtherainbowx4163
@meowtherainbowx4163 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of philosophy, their implicit admission to not knowing where to draw the line is kinda like Socrates. He was the wisest man in Athens because he knew that he knew not. I sympathize with the leftist punk idea that there must be a better society than what we have now, perhaps a fundamentally different one, but no one really knows what that is, let alone some uneducated burnout. We can try different ideas, but that takes tolerance and compromise, which is incompatible with the self-righteousness that a lot of punks develop.
@DETSRC313
@DETSRC313 Жыл бұрын
Agreed They carried the torch for the genre during a time when there wasn't a main band truly representing punk at the time outside of specific geographical local scene for example.
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
I know I certainly never thought of the Clash, Pistols, and Ramones as “the main three”. Then again, I don’t think in terms of “the main punk bands” like it’s some end-all, be-all thing… with *ANY* band, or bands. It was never about that for me. There’s just some bands I love more than others, and it has nothing to do with popularity, notoriety, or some kind of perceived ‘importance’. The Clash got to headline big stadiums at one point in their career, while their peers were still struggling to fill small venues and clubs. So what? That didn’t make them any more (or less) important to punk than a band like The Ruts, who played a very similar style of punk but were never anywhere near as commercially successful or well known. The point is, it doesn’t really matter what the popular opinion of a band is. It’s what they mean to *YOU* personally. In that regard, the DK’s have always rated near the top for me.
@bisexualmajima
@bisexualmajima Жыл бұрын
I feel like the only people who still think anything of the Pistols are people who know nothing about punk.
@wankertanker1813
@wankertanker1813 Жыл бұрын
Herc
@Cmonthatisyournamehahaha
@Cmonthatisyournamehahaha 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@greglane334
@greglane334 Жыл бұрын
I will always love THPS for turning me on to these guys
@MosherBear
@MosherBear Жыл бұрын
DK is still hugely popular in Britain. Fresh Fruit and Give Me Convenience...are platinum certified here. I love the fact that Too Drunk to Fuck was a Top 40 hit here. But like many people, I caught up with them much later.
@Philliben1991
@Philliben1991 Жыл бұрын
Give Me Convenience and Strangelways Here We Come were the first two CDs I ever bought. Mostly I had their albums on cassette thought and probably still do in that drawer won't open! 😅
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
Probably the most popular (in the UK) of all the American punk bands. Possibly the Ramones as well, at least in the early days. The Dickies also seemed to do pretty well over there as I recall. Strange how certain bands do better overseas than others, and that works both ways. The Damned did fairly well for themselves in America, at least in terms of concert attendance (the radio won’t touch ‘em here).
@slayerofthebuzz1
@slayerofthebuzz1 11 ай бұрын
Isn't the alternate title of "Too Drunk to Fuck" in the UK "Just your Average Thursday"? ;)
@MosherBear
@MosherBear 11 ай бұрын
@@slayerofthebuzz1 nope but if it were written today and the band were based in some uni town in Blighty, yeah, I can imagine it would have an less offensive and very dull title.
@RonnieOwens-kv4oe
@RonnieOwens-kv4oe 11 ай бұрын
​@@MosherBearcan't imagine the BBC allowing that song on...😊
@sinisterminister3322
@sinisterminister3322 Жыл бұрын
I saw the Dead Kennedys at the Whiskey a Go Go back in the day. I do respect Jello for his integrity, and also originality, and not only because of his lyrics. As far as I know, no one has ever sounded like him in his vocals then or since.
@sinisterminister3322
@sinisterminister3322 Жыл бұрын
@son_of_dad I did and he does sound close to Jello, but not “spot on.” Anyway, thanks for the recommendation.
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
Nope. He’s a true original. I’ve heard many singers try to emulate him over the years, but none succeeded. There’s only one Jello.
@chestermarcol3831
@chestermarcol3831 11 ай бұрын
Always thought that Barney the Dinosaur modeled his voice after Jello, which is fantastic, if you think about it. LOL
@agomodern
@agomodern 10 ай бұрын
@@Shikta-poobah67 Isn't that the case 100% of the time? Isn't there only one you?
@jaydekay2613
@jaydekay2613 8 ай бұрын
I saw the Kennedy’s in Australia in 1984. It still is one of my all time favourite gigs.
@SoupA150
@SoupA150 11 ай бұрын
My older brother listened to the DK's non stop, and went to see them in their heyday. So I got to know all their music pretty well. We went together to see the recent line up. Still pretty cool. The music stands up.
@chrismickunas8130
@chrismickunas8130 Жыл бұрын
For me their influence definitely influenced my early interest in politics and causes. Course I was growing up on them in the 80’s when I was in high school. I also think you should have mentioned “Police Truck” since prior to rap, especially the West Coast rap scene, no one ever wanted to talk about police brutality and the seemingly limitless immunity law enforcement had.
@666Natalia
@666Natalia Жыл бұрын
Pleaaaase do a video on NoMeansNo, super underrated punk band that pioneered the sound, esp for mathy music and punk etc. They even have a whole album with Jello.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't already, go check out the newly released book on them called From Obscurity to Oblivions, by Jason Lamb & Paul Prescott. It's on PM Press. It's an oral history featuring literally hundreds of interviews plus tons from the band themselves. And photos from their entire existence (including some I took in the mid 2000s, which I'm thrilled are in print). and yes, this channel needs to cover them.
@ColeWheeler4Lyfe
@ColeWheeler4Lyfe Жыл бұрын
Yes please. Yes please. Yes please.
@MarkWilson-ij9jd
@MarkWilson-ij9jd 11 ай бұрын
Dead Bob on tour this March.
@666Natalia
@666Natalia 11 ай бұрын
@@MarkWilson-ij9jd wait fr
@williamgreer9482
@williamgreer9482 Жыл бұрын
I was 12 when Frankenchrist came out. It changed my life. I also saw them a couple of years ago with Ron "Skip" Greer (no relation) on vocals. It was surreal. East Bay Ray is one of my favorite guitar players, so it was just awesome to watch him play, but "Skip" is no Jello Biafra (to say the least).
@zeikerd
@zeikerd Жыл бұрын
that guy annoyed the hell out of me at their show
@Sean-fv4wi
@Sean-fv4wi 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic, visionary band. Of all his pears, Jello endeared himself to socio-political-minded metalheads too, writing lyrics & appearing on songs & albums for such bands as Ministry, Napalm Death & Sepultura, to think of a few.
@bobz5
@bobz5 11 ай бұрын
Growing up in the bay area involved in the skate and surf community was able to see them over a dozen times. Great band always a great show. The Mab maybe my favorite venue.
@scotts.3636
@scotts.3636 Жыл бұрын
One of the best punk bands ever, often overlooked.
@djdrack4681
@djdrack4681 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Up there with The Damned as OG punk that never really let go of their punk roots.
@nickcarroll5034
@nickcarroll5034 Жыл бұрын
overlooked they are not lol
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
How exactly are they “overlooked”? Ask anyone, punk or non-punk who the most important American punk bands of all time were/are, and I guarantee you they’ll mention Dead Kennedys in the first sentence, right alongside Ramones and Black Flag. They were also one of the only American punk bands to get into the charts in the UK. They were hardly “overlooked”. Maybe you meant “under appreciated”?
@michelgeneral
@michelgeneral Жыл бұрын
· It’s a Gold Album for Dead Kennedys! 43 years after its release on September 2, 1980, “Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables” has finally been certified Gold (yesterday, the 15th), by the RIAA! This is possibly the most influential independent album in American punk rock history, and this is long overdue. This is DKs second Gold Album, after “Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death,” awarded in 2007. This took years of work to put together, and we are honored to have had DKs on Manifesto for the past 22 years! - Dead Kennedys
@skeenj
@skeenj Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, @FinnMckentyPRMBA! I have to admit feeling a little vindication. :) So glad you came around on the philosophy behind the DKs. You were right, they didn't propose solutions as much - "I'm not telling you, i'm asking you!". Instead of force feeding their audience what they should think, their message was to get people thinking, and use the diverse thought of the many rebels to reform/remake a better world. Great video.
@joelbarish
@joelbarish 11 ай бұрын
Jello Biafra has become the enemy he once fought like so many other aging punks and artists. Where's the mention of that? Takes one to know one i guess.
@crimsonwolf9099
@crimsonwolf9099 7 күн бұрын
How so? I think you are blowin' smoke, pal.
@sir_i.p.freely3757
@sir_i.p.freely3757 10 ай бұрын
Man seeing that boy slam those skins in honor of his father made me tear up you can just see the raw emotion coming off him
@robwalsh9843
@robwalsh9843 Жыл бұрын
East Bay Ray is one of punk's best guitarists, bar none.
@rockydeangelis7024
@rockydeangelis7024 Жыл бұрын
I always read the lyrics to Holliday in Cambodia as a critique of naive, self proclaimed Marxists on college campuses . Almost a “you think communism is such a great idea? Why don’t you head on down there and check it out?” 🤷🏻‍♂️ but what do I know
@babyfatso6563
@babyfatso6563 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here. And the lyrics seem to suggest this as well : "Now you can go where people are one, now you can go where they get things done" Sounds like how a sympathizer would describe the regime.
@aprofondir
@aprofondir 8 ай бұрын
I think it's more complex, since Pol Pot denounced Marxism himself, and was supported by the west. It's more of a criticism of privileged kids who like the aesthetic of progressivism while living in the epicentre of imperialism and enjoying its benefits
@rockydeangelis7024
@rockydeangelis7024 8 ай бұрын
@@aprofondir nail on the head
@andybrinson3406
@andybrinson3406 6 ай бұрын
And also of Noam Chomsky and his followers, because he was an avid defender of the Khmer Rouge, downplaying the stories coming out of there as lies.
@cejannuzi
@cejannuzi Ай бұрын
@@andybrinson3406 1. Chomsky is not Marxist (just saying if anyone out there thinks he is, 2. I remember the debates about the Khmer Rouge and many got taken in. You have to remember much of the deep state defended the KR because they wanted revenge against Vietnam. That put them on the side of China and Mao.
@lupo3694
@lupo3694 Жыл бұрын
I love this band and their music so much. Jellos lyrics spoke to me as a 15 year old, and by then these songs where 20 years old. I love punk, but very early on I had a big appreciation for the artits that called out the bullshit in all camps, including their own. I couldn't even understand everything he said and how it could be interpreted, since English isn't my first language, but his delivery was so captivating, I wanted to find out as much as I could about it. Jello wasn't just influential to my taste of music, he was influential to my whole outlook on life and society.
@johnhritz4311
@johnhritz4311 4 ай бұрын
Dead K's was one of my top punk bands as a teen. I listened to them on Wayne State College Radio Station.
@sarag1158
@sarag1158 4 ай бұрын
youtube just jammed this in my recommended feeds. and boy am I glad I stuck around. we've got to be the same age. Your comment about getting into the punk scene in the '90s and how it was so cliquish. even in the early '90s, there was nothing punk about it. My kid loves epitaph records, and by extension so do I. I'm now listening to my kids music and I enjoy it as much as the stuff I grew up with. I'm not sure what the scene is like because I'm 20 years older than everybody else in that group. anyways, I'm rambling. subscribing to your podcast. It's definitely a time capsule listen for me.
@ChooseBrian
@ChooseBrian Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest of all time. Sad that some modern era punks don’t call out BS as often. They just fall in line. Jello included. Great video Finn.
@BelakorVenator
@BelakorVenator Жыл бұрын
Used to love punk rock in the 90s when I had no real responsibilities and virtually no life experience outside of opinions, criticism and angst. Definitely a soundtrack to biased ignorance, looking back. DK is one of the few bands I loved at the time and still dig to this day. They really were more cognizant than most others in the scene about the ideological hypocrisy and the slippery slope of things to come when the idealistic concepts being promoted as “progressive” play out in reality. Guess I’ll stop there.
@chrispollard341
@chrispollard341 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They WERE. Then along came a lil ol' thing called the passage of time.
@swfcocs1
@swfcocs1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting story, bit ironic when dude mentions it's about punk turning mainstream then immediately launches into a sponsor ad😅
@damianb2374
@damianb2374 4 ай бұрын
the ads are the point of this guy's thing: it's all clickbait for pennies: packaged up facts and images scammed from online under a grabby title.
@thebillroku
@thebillroku 3 ай бұрын
punk is when no money - karl marx
@gmashe
@gmashe 7 ай бұрын
Last 60 seconds of your commentary is brilliant!!! So well said. Thanks for a great piece.
@normanbaratelli4651
@normanbaratelli4651 3 ай бұрын
I lived in an anarchist community in Marin County- which, if you're from the Bay Area, you know how insane that sounds but I'm completely serious. I met Biafra when he spoke to my class in college in '78 then hung out with me and my friend just sitting in the California sun. He was so smart, so ahead of the times, and their shows were legendary and insane. Used to see them at the Mab or upstairs... Very good to see them again. Good show, man. Thanks for what you do. Spot on critique.
@chrisquinn9104
@chrisquinn9104 Жыл бұрын
They continued in the tradition of Mad Magazine and Frank Zappa for me, even though I listened to the DKs first. They let everyone have it and had the crazy visual art work that I go along with. Be into stuff like that meant entering a world and it was a world of critical thinking
@VinnytheSanchez
@VinnytheSanchez Жыл бұрын
punk has let itself become a tool of the government narrative. I wasn't a DK fan for whatever reason growing up, I honestly couldn't say why, but this video has given me reason to revisit and think about the lyrics through the lens of the last few years. thanks @thepunkrockmba!
@ryanjacobson2508
@ryanjacobson2508 Жыл бұрын
It happens all the time... The initial "counter-culture" gets swallowed by both mainstream fashion and big institutions (corporations, colleges, the government, churches etc.). It happened to bikers, to hippies, to rappers, to punks, to metalheads, etc.
@VinnytheSanchez
@VinnytheSanchez Жыл бұрын
@@ryanjacobson2508 I don’t disagree but I’m not sure any other 1st world subculture was more proudly anti conformist, and that was what drew me to it years ago. Imagine going back in time and telling some bands in their hey day that 20-30yrs from now they would ghost band members for not conforming?
@spddiesel
@spddiesel Жыл бұрын
First heard DK in '86 when I house sitting for my 8th grade art teacher over Christmas break. He and I always talked music, and he told me to leaf thru his album collection while I was there. I was already into Suicidal at the time, so he suggested I listen to the Kennedys. "Fresh Fruit" was the one I grabbed and I was in, lol. He also got me into DRI, so I should look the dude up and thank him 🤘
@zeikerd
@zeikerd Жыл бұрын
Shit dude! same thing with me! First thing I heard was Government flu and I was hooked. I went from all the skate bands like descendents, black flag to suicidal, slayer and the mighty DRI! Played with DRI two times so thats a highlight
@spddiesel
@spddiesel Жыл бұрын
@@zeikerd shit dude, that's awesome! What instrument do you play?
@zeikerd
@zeikerd Жыл бұрын
@@spddiesel I do vocals (pretty average) in two bands.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@zeikerd no worries about your vocals, people like Mick Jones, the late Joe Strummer (The Clash) the late Ian Curtis (Joy Division) and Johnny Rotten would have all been the first ones to tell they suck at singing.
@zeikerd
@zeikerd Жыл бұрын
@@sawtooth808 I still pumped out over a 100 songs on like, eight or nine albums and EPs, so shitty vocals are okay by me
@rjy8960
@rjy8960 3 күн бұрын
I discovered DK in about 2001/2 when one of my friends was playing it in the car. I was immediately hooked and downloaded the whole catalogue from Audiogalaxy so that I could listen to it. Obviously I did buy the whole catalogue on CD. I got the chance to see them live in Northampton a while later with Jeff Penalty on vocals. I got right to the front of the mosh-pit and the music was amazing. I turned round, met the eye of another guy he grinned at me like a Cheshire cat, I grinned back and the concert was outstanding. It took me two weeks to come down from the buzz. I managed to meet the band on this and another occasion when I saw them. Since I first heard them I've been a fan of their music - Whilst it was a shame I didn't get to see them with Jello, I heard Ray playing "Moon over Marin" live :)
@erichauser3042
@erichauser3042 11 ай бұрын
Saw the DKs in 1985 in Morgantown, WV. Still remember Jello at the beginning of the show asking people not to kick the mic into his face when they jumped off the stage. One of the best bands ever!
@GlynDwr-d4h
@GlynDwr-d4h Жыл бұрын
The Give Me Convenience record was a mainstay for me in high school. And later in my early and mid 20s, I remember really connecting to those lyrics in a personal way. When I was at university and studying history and international relations theory, it was really easy to take the view point that you thought your professors wanted to hear because you wanted to be a mainstream person who could have doors open to him in grad school and beyond. Your politics matters when you're studying that stuff because it's not like other social sciences where you're free to pretend you're a radical leftist and play weekend warrior. Sociology departments may have been dominated by middle class self styled communists and radicals (who are only ever in reality just liberals of various stripes) but that's not the case in economics and political science departments. Believe it or not, calling yourself a Marxist, for instance, in an economics program isn't actually going to open a lot of career doors for you. It's still that way today, but it was even more true when I was in school. I always used to think about that song Man With the Dogs, which I always interpreted as a song about the cognitive dissonance we feel when we're doing what's expected of us but sense that it's wrong. That music gave me confidence to not sell my soul and try to retain my intellectual (and moral) integrity, basically.
@ninjaskeleton6140
@ninjaskeleton6140 Жыл бұрын
Chickenshit conformist indeed. I’m in my 40s now and I’ve been involved in my local punk scene since I was teenager and I mostly stopped going to shows in the last few years. The SJWs started ruining my scene starting back around 2010, by 2016 it had become pretty damn unbearable. A lot of people were driven out or intimidated into complacency. Haven’t really bothered with the local scene at all since covid. I still go out when the big bands like Bad Religion or Pennywise come to town, but I stay clear of the small shows for the most part now because the culture is so poisonous.
@chrispollard341
@chrispollard341 Жыл бұрын
I hate to break it to you, but this new socio-cultural climate of woke identity politics and sjw virtue signalling (the religion of the modern left, btw), many of the founding fathers of alternative, metal, punk and hardcore have since themselves fallen in line with it's dictations, including jello biafra, henry rollins, fat mike from nofx, green day, offspring, bad religion, al jourgenson, napalm death, rage against the machine, flea from rhcp, eddie vedder, thurston moore, etc. have all "sold out" via the aforementioned sjw authoritarian agenda or encouraging and promoting the covid vax (and in some cases enforcing a such policy at their shows). It's a complete 180 from what the scene started out as.
@drinkinouttacups2665
@drinkinouttacups2665 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrispollard341 how are you going to say this and still call him rollins It's Henry Garfield
@danielpeters7859
@danielpeters7859 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they don't care. If you're looking for some kind of OG respect you should forget about it. It's by the kids for the kids
@lukaszzylik4437
@lukaszzylik4437 3 ай бұрын
Do you have a single original thought beyond SJWs suck? You sound like every single person bitching about SJWs, like a hivemind. Let me hear your original theories about wokeness please.
@carlzombie6722
@carlzombie6722 Жыл бұрын
Always a great day when Finn drops a new video! I appreciate you for teaching me so much about Alt. Music!
@christurnblom4825
@christurnblom4825 6 ай бұрын
I love it. Thank you for saying it. I've had my disagreements with Jello on some issues but there's just no doubt Jello is a deep thinker & the kind of lyricist that makes a young person think. What a great influence to have growing up. If I had to choose only one musician I could thank, it would be Jello. I also recommend his spoken word albums.
@nlpnick
@nlpnick 5 ай бұрын
When I was punk in early/mid 80s in London it was anarchy, squatting, drugs, parties and demonstrations. That was the life. Crass were our go to and still riles me up decades later
@rickjones8005
@rickjones8005 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine once drove Jello home after a show four hours in his Volkswagen beetle. We were so jealous of him the day after that he should have took me along too! Being critical of punk is the most punk of all. Love the Dead Kennedys.
@dr.shawnsoszka4438
@dr.shawnsoszka4438 Жыл бұрын
I grew up listening to DK and Jello's philosophy really influenced my world view. Even though they weren't Gen X, they really captured the spirit of my generation.
@Jeeiff
@Jeeiff Жыл бұрын
Same...his preaching wrenched me from being Reagan youth (not the band) to prog left. He told us shit that we would find to be true about our lying gov't years later. Jello moulded my political awareness...even if I may disagree with him today.
@dr.shawnsoszka4438
@dr.shawnsoszka4438 11 ай бұрын
@@Jeeiff Yes, ol' Jello is now quite the cranky old man!
@mjaief
@mjaief Жыл бұрын
My fave song and lyric off Frankenchrist is This Could Be Anywhere/Everywhere. Powerful social storytelling and uniquely poetic. "No amount of neon jazz could hide the oozing vibes of death"
@agrowax
@agrowax Жыл бұрын
Niiiiiiice. I need to check out the lyrics again as it's been a minute. Jello has GREAT lyrics on that album. A growing boy needs his lunch always stuck w me, but I have to check out that song again. I always loved that breakdown in This could be anywhere
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
@@agrowaxI’ve always loved that one line in “Growing Boy…” - “liquor filled statues of Elvis Presley, screw his head off and dtink like a vampire”. Just the imagery in that alone is so great. I love Frankenchrist. Great album.
@evenberg8499
@evenberg8499 4 ай бұрын
The "Moon over Marin" lyrics are timeless. I visualize the Exxon Valdez oil tanker environmental catastrophe in 1989.
@Paul-in-Viet-Nam
@Paul-in-Viet-Nam 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I remember getting introduced to this music by a guy in my platoon (I Co. 3/1) Pete Arnella when we got back from WestPac '87. Pete's from Northern California and I'm from dirtweed, Ohio. He turned me onto the Dead Kennedys, Suicidal Tendencies and a lot of stuff I never heard of. He still lives in Northern Cal, I don't, but we still talk on the phone a couple times a week. My wife and I went on a Holiday in Cambodia a couple months ago and had to share the photos with him - it's a cool place now. Reunion tours epitomize sadness, they're little more than a bunch of has-beens trying to relive their glory days and stay relevant.
@NoPrepFans
@NoPrepFans Жыл бұрын
Dead Kennedys have always been one of my favorite bands
@xnay3600
@xnay3600 Жыл бұрын
punks are more pretentious then the "popular kids" from what i remember when i used to be atleast semi part of the scene, is getting judged for the way i dress or my views even tho my taste in music etc. was simular or even the same as many of them... the case with me was i was a pretty normal kid who was into the harder music but at heart i was a skater so i dressed like that and boy that didnt stand with the hardcore scene atleast where i was form
@NorthStarKnifeReviews
@NorthStarKnifeReviews 12 күн бұрын
Jerry Brown was center-left at best.
@acmebombfactory
@acmebombfactory 9 ай бұрын
Dead Kennedys are my favorite country rock band
@castielsgranny4308
@castielsgranny4308 5 ай бұрын
Got to see the Dead Kennedys live in Houston about 1981-82. It was awesome.
@crimsonwolf9099
@crimsonwolf9099 7 күн бұрын
My band opened for them at the Island that night. It was 110+ degrees in there and the cops were lined up outside and hassled everyone as they left. I remember it well. A great night indeed!
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