Should My Fiancée Get Part Of My Wealth?

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@joelkaben
@joelkaben Жыл бұрын
Definitely get a prenup. If she doesn't agree, don't marry her. End the relationship.
@liciewhiteley7376
@liciewhiteley7376 2 ай бұрын
I broke up with him. If he couldn't trust me that much I didn't want to marry. It's hard though. Hubby now but he is a part of the top 1% in the USA. And it's generational wealth, so deep rooted. We got a financial plan. Married, or divorce, or death I get the same deal. He provides everything. House, utilities, transportation, medical etc. my allowance covers vacation, spa, clothes etc. but it's a small percentage of his income. And within reason.
@MrJimmy3459
@MrJimmy3459 Жыл бұрын
PPL say a man wanting a prenup is a red flag, I say a woman being mad or offended over the idea of a prenup is a BIGGER red flag
@silentknight7078
@silentknight7078 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree.
@avenj4659
@avenj4659 Жыл бұрын
Female here and fully agree
@smileygirl622
@smileygirl622 Жыл бұрын
The actual red flag is only understanding those things as buzzwords and not understanding your marriage contract or your prenup, both of you, fully. Don't be naive people can take advantage of eachother with either one, they are both just contracts.
@stephanieharries7746
@stephanieharries7746 Жыл бұрын
😊 I'll have to say I'd be totally okay and good with a prenup either way the reason being I'm going to have my husband get a prenup fry say I do not have a husband I never had one is that if I if he commits adultery I get everything and if I commit adultery he gets everything
@33ladyRAM
@33ladyRAM Жыл бұрын
I fully concur. No one is entitled to ANYONE hard earned money...man or woman!
@TheRealEdStoner
@TheRealEdStoner Жыл бұрын
I had a male friend getting married and his fiancée who was rich had to have a prenup to get married. When they went to do the paper work and she found out he had over 15 times her net worth she refused to sign. He definitely dodged a bullet.
@emmanuelkofyagyapong6382
@emmanuelkofyagyapong6382 Жыл бұрын
Damn, thanks for this story!
@eaglewings33
@eaglewings33 Жыл бұрын
Meaning he did NOT marry her, correct?
@fauxbro1983
@fauxbro1983 Жыл бұрын
Lol thats funny. She initiated the prenuptial until she found out he was worth alot more. Haha priceless
@TheRealEdStoner
@TheRealEdStoner Жыл бұрын
@@eaglewings33 yes
@tdaveniii
@tdaveniii Жыл бұрын
I agree he dodged a bullet. I don't think it shows great communication skills in your friend that he chose to spring that fact on her when the paper work was signed and hadn't discussed it previously.
@tinmanslickgreasy999
@tinmanslickgreasy999 Жыл бұрын
I have seen so many men build a business get married and then his wife decides nah I want to be with chad and they have to get divorced and he loses half or more of what he built up. This is asinine to even think about marriage without a prenup.
@governmentlard1617
@governmentlard1617 Жыл бұрын
Chad Thundercock has destroyed many a marriage.
@cassietheboss9211
@cassietheboss9211 Жыл бұрын
It's not usually for Chad they just quit
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Жыл бұрын
No man should be getting married, unless they leave the country and move overseas if they want a family.
@roolyfe
@roolyfe Жыл бұрын
Tyrone has BBC ! Destroyer of marriage! Hypergamy is real gentlemen!
@georgewagner7787
@georgewagner7787 Жыл бұрын
You're not listening to Dave. Marry but protect yourself. Marry to protect your family.
@striperkid
@striperkid Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with Dave on this one. Get the prenup and adjust down the road if needed.
@landshark7684
@landshark7684 Жыл бұрын
Simple test: run home and tell her you’ve realized your calling in life as a zookeeper and you’ve sold the business and given everything to charity and gauge her reaction.
@Sombra_Azul_
@Sombra_Azul_ Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rocqitmon
@rocqitmon Жыл бұрын
Why should she marry crazy/stupid? At that point, it's she who dodged the bullet. That's funny, but Not a useful test...
@themurderbotfeed7688
@themurderbotfeed7688 4 ай бұрын
I’d be pissed but not because he got rid of the money but because he did it behind my back without telling me about, he had an existential crisis and didnt let me in? That would be like I come home with new butt and boobs and an adopted child out of the blue and im like “hi honey!”, id anticipate a big reaction too, not necessarily cuz either of those things are bad, but because we didnt speak about it
@ShawnOfTheDead-v6o
@ShawnOfTheDead-v6o Ай бұрын
hahahahahaha, she will be dating the CEO of the zoo at that point.
@Silented1234
@Silented1234 Жыл бұрын
The writing is on the wall. She is considerably younger than he is, he has a lot of money and she knows this. She gives him a hard time about a prenup and gaslight him saying he loves his money more than her. This woman is a whole red flag.
@AlexPerazaTV
@AlexPerazaTV Жыл бұрын
A prenup has no relevance during a marriage. It only matters during a divorce. So unless she plans on divorcing him, the penup should not bother her at all.
@jenniferspisak
@jenniferspisak Жыл бұрын
She’s a red banner 😂
@chajones3368
@chajones3368 Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexPerazaTV Well said!
@kaydublin5164
@kaydublin5164 Жыл бұрын
Definitely, dump her.
@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive
@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive Жыл бұрын
@@AlexPerazaTV unless he plans on divorcing her then it shouldnt matter to him.. he is worried that when he is cheating with the 19 year old at work and she is done with him, she takes him to the cleaners.
@ryangardner7709
@ryangardner7709 Жыл бұрын
Don’t marry, don’t cohabitate . Her saying “ you love the money , more than her” is a 🚩right there. She’s already thinking of your money. Don’t do it!
@gmrrnracr
@gmrrnracr Жыл бұрын
@@delaslight there’s a level of trust but smart to leave a margin of doubt. The “what if” variable. You would be a fool and lying to yourself if you didn’t
@LoantakaBrook
@LoantakaBrook Жыл бұрын
She shouldn’t marry a guy who expects they will divorce 🚩
@wildcaptivation
@wildcaptivation Жыл бұрын
@@LoantakaBrookyup
@johnwilburn
@johnwilburn Жыл бұрын
He didn't get where he is by listening to people who cannot do what he has done.
@jdstep97
@jdstep97 Жыл бұрын
@@delaslightThat's what everybody says and then it's too late. Look at Paul Macartney. People kept telling him to do a prenup. He didn't. He got scre**d. You can trust a person all day, but business is business. And it's usually the people who do NOT have the money against the prenups. Really, they do make life easier if things do not work out.
@TacticalCanner
@TacticalCanner Жыл бұрын
I agree with Jade a bit here. I would want her to sign a pre-nup where she does not get his original wealth but the stuff they build together should be theirs. For example, she might quit her job and career in order to focus on his and they build the company from 7 to 25 million. Then after ten years he divorces her and she gets nothing even after she gave up her career and helped with his business. That is definitely not right. I would not sign a pre-nup like that and I am a guy.
@fauxbro1983
@fauxbro1983 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Quit her job to be his secretary. Come on. She aint instrumental to the buisness
@qubeplaygaming699
@qubeplaygaming699 Жыл бұрын
​@fauxbro1983 you read that as a glorified secretary lol... you need to aim higher when you accept women into your life. A good woman can increase your efficiency by quite a lot the key is to find a competent woman.
@TacticalCanner
@TacticalCanner Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Dave Ramsey had a million dollar business when he met his wife and he got her to sign a pre-nup like he just described at the very beginning. Sharon becomes a stay at home mom, supports him, and provides feedback to help build his business into the success it is today. Now after all these years he decides to divorce her and she gets thrown on the street with nothing to live off of because the pre-nup says he owns everything. That is what he is suggesting and it is not right.
@luminous6969
@luminous6969 Жыл бұрын
Depends on if she actually helps grow the business, making his lunch and rubbing his feet when he gets home shouldn't be worth a multimillion dollar meal ticket.
@Hurtzilla
@Hurtzilla Жыл бұрын
Overvaluing her worth. Dude is worth 10 million. She ain't helping anything grow. She's truly a liability.
@JCpNK
@JCpNK Жыл бұрын
When she tried to gas light him by saying "you just care about your money more than me".. I would look her straight in the eye and say.. "It sounds like you want to marry my money not me".. That's why honestly it would be hard for me to marry someone if I had a bunch of money first because there are too many gold diggers out there.
@georgewagner7787
@georgewagner7787 Жыл бұрын
It's better not to let anyone know but that is hard today
@CJ2023Incognito
@CJ2023Incognito Жыл бұрын
So happy my hubby and I got together as broke kids. Lol
@JayLawson
@JayLawson Жыл бұрын
This is the best case because you build together vs someone meeting you in the winner's circle.
@Mickey-jn7hy
@Mickey-jn7hy 6 ай бұрын
Me too. Together since age 17, married 34 years.
@INatalkaI
@INatalkaI 3 ай бұрын
That's what i never could understand about men discarding the wives who were with them when they had nothing. I've seen so many cases when a man becomes successful later in life and trades her in for a younger model who no doubt only wants him for one reason.
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 2 ай бұрын
Never build a man up. They dont like remembering when you saw them at their lowest and will upgrade with a new woman off the back of all your labor.
@raymondcarter9810
@raymondcarter9810 Ай бұрын
​@@pinkpugginz you're so wise. Lets generalize a whole group! Never build up a woman up because she will upgrade to the new model. Foolishness. My wife and I married at 24 and she has been my rock during my low points. And every single plan I have in store involves her. I purposely surround myself with like minded people and announce my intentions before hand. No one comes before my wife besides god. And I have several other friends that respect their wives as well and if they act stupid I'd call them out. Even did it to a close relative that i looked up to at one point when they were saying ridiculous things. Speak life.
@USMCAllTheWay
@USMCAllTheWay Жыл бұрын
Sir, this is a huge red flag. My wife had no problem signing our prenuptial, because her main focus wasn't about the $$. I would RUN!
@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive
@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive Жыл бұрын
but your main focus was ALL about the money..
@dankc60
@dankc60 Жыл бұрын
@@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive huh so if he got a car insurance was his main focus getting in an accident?
@striperkid
@striperkid Жыл бұрын
@@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive you can easily say that because you probably have no money.
@USMCAllTheWay
@USMCAllTheWay Жыл бұрын
@@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive Exactly!
@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive
@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive Жыл бұрын
@striperkid I'm 55..retired and typing this from the beach in Thailand... want to compare net worth statements my friend?
@HublyTrades
@HublyTrades 7 ай бұрын
Signing a prenup is a true test for love and loyalty for both parties. You do not want to sign a prenup, making any form of excuse is a big giant red billboard of don't marry this person.
@dankc60
@dankc60 Жыл бұрын
never sign a contract that incentivises one party to break it. PERIOD. This is the world we live in today and unless divorce laws change, this will apply.
@DevHazy
@DevHazy Жыл бұрын
Explain?
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Жыл бұрын
Facts! There is zero upside for a man to get married. He has little to gain, but a house and several hundreds to thousands of dollars a month to lose whenever the woman gets bored and decides she wants Chad.
@rueman84
@rueman84 Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail right on the head with this one. Whether they’re traditional women, modern women, it doesn’t matter they have nothing to lose and all to gain.
@DougAlesUSA
@DougAlesUSA Жыл бұрын
⁠@@DevHazy how can this need explanation? Okay, lets assume you are serious and you honestly do not understand. The caller is calling from a communal property state, Texas, one of ten communal property states in the USA. A marriage is a legal contract. You may say its about “LOVE” but you would be wrong. In the USA, the government has placed legal consequences into the legal contract called marriage. The federal government has left it up to the states to define the terms of the contract. Some states are communal law, some common law, and I’d need to check but I believe some US territories have different definitions. These words have significant legal differences. Communal property state = the moment you marry, all assets and liabilities are 100% owned by the union, not 50/50, but 100. There is no his vs hers, its all theirs, unless a pre-existing contract dictates otherwise. Even if a pre-existing contract exists, better make sure it was written by a good lawyer, because many courts have tossed out prenup agreements due to legal process error. For example, in some states, each party must have an independent lawyer or the prenup can be declared void. Broken down, if a $1 Million dollar loan was owned by one person pre-wedding, now $1 Million is owed in total by the union. If a divorce occurs, each does not owe $500,000, it means the broken union still owes $1 Million and any assets, his or hers, are fair game to collect the $1 Million. Got it so far? Because it gets even more complex. Think this through, you can marry someone with $1 million in debt, divorce, have nothing. They can go after your future income for the rest of your life until the full $1 million plus interest is paid, even when it was a preexisting loan not borrowed to you. Its not 50/50, the debt is community, so its 100% owed by the union, or former union if divorced. Lets go the other way. One person comes into the union with $0 debt and a $10,000,000 net worth, about the situation of this caller. The other comes in with only debt, lets say a net worth of negative or -$100,000. The two get married in Texas with no prenup. The next day, the one who joined the communal marriage with the -$100,000 debt can divorce then walk away with a $4,950,000 net worth. So, this previously in debt person has a $5 million incentive to get married then break the contract via divorce. It gets far more complex, but do you now understand how one person of the union has an incentive to break the contract? How does it get even more complex? Just one example, in some states you can never go through a ceremony, never say “I do” never sign a marriage certificate and still become legally married. This comes into play many times, including when couples split, or one person has debt and the debtor is trying to collect from the other person of the couple. Imagine being told you are married and owe the other persons debt when you never knew you were married. Its getting even crazier because long term couples sharing an apartment, where one has debt, can the debtor go after the roommate claiming they are legally a union? Well, thats about to be tested in California. I swear, the real world can be crazier then fiction. It gets even crazier when one person passes without a prenup or will or marriage certificate. Its a messed up world.
@BF_official_my
@BF_official_my Жыл бұрын
​@@DougAlesUSAYou sir just open my eyes eventhough I'm not from the US, but I believe it's more or less the same... So it sounds like marriage brings more downside if the other half has debts or both has a significant difference in net worth..
@smithrr6
@smithrr6 Жыл бұрын
when a woman says "you love your money more than you love me" that is a manipulative statement if their ever was one with intent to shame you into allowing your emotions to control your decisions, rather than logic, in an attempt to get you to make an agreement with her that is very non-beneficial to you and very beneficial to her all at your expense. As my son gets older, he will be wealthy, and im going to teach him to keep his wits about him and to understand the manipulations of women when it comes to marriage contracts and to remain strong and stoic with decisions to safeguard pre-marital wealth. Which basically means he needs to be prepared to dump her if she tries to shame him into cancelling a pre-nup. More than likely what she will do is she will be even more attracted to him because he proved himself to be a strong decision maker which women do find that more attractive.
@djpuplex
@djpuplex Жыл бұрын
Yeah she's gaslighting him.
@oceanside88
@oceanside88 Жыл бұрын
Manipulations of women? That's chauvinistic. Men gold dig also. And sum Women pay all the bills. I do. 😡
@djpuplex
@djpuplex Жыл бұрын
@@oceanside88 Well you chosen him. Unless he has a gun to your head blame the person in the mirror. Take accountability. 97% of all spousal support ever paid has been paid from men to women. Numbers stall the story.
@vaterrmanagementllc9619
@vaterrmanagementllc9619 Жыл бұрын
@@oceanside88 Don't bother going back and forward with a stranger like this because in his eyes men will always be right and women are only for sex and babies and not to be loved nor liked.
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 Жыл бұрын
​@@oceanside88 The data doesn't lie. Mostly it's men who have to pay women when divorce happens. It's rarely women who have to pay men. If you (as a woman) are paying for everything in your relationship, then that means you chose a BUM. You made the choice to be with a man who is happy with you paying for everything. That's your own fault. Blame yourself and no one else for the decisions you make in life.
@robertblaney5033
@robertblaney5033 Жыл бұрын
The easiest way to lose a hard-earned fortune is to get divorced. When a marriage ends, it turns into a financial negotiation. The spouse that never had anything to begin with , figures they can get a divorce & take half of what you worked your entire life for.
@John3.36
@John3.36 Жыл бұрын
You saying that a 60+ year old woman for instance should just leave with nothing after a whole life of marriage and then a divorce to one guy?
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 Жыл бұрын
Entire Life, No the years you are married, yes. Prior to marriage, Assets are placed into a sealed Trust.
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Жыл бұрын
​@@John3.36yes
@GordoDustin
@GordoDustin Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@garykeith1048
@garykeith1048 8 ай бұрын
@@John3.36 Yes, she should. She should work for a living and not be dependent like a child.
@NurseMoneyGrowWealth
@NurseMoneyGrowWealth Жыл бұрын
Everything you built before the relationship is yours. Everything you build after is “ours”.
@aaronadamson7463
@aaronadamson7463 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't it be "Everything **WE** build together afterwards is ours?" This is why a lot of modern men are terrified of marriage...
@NurseMoneyGrowWealth
@NurseMoneyGrowWealth Жыл бұрын
@@aaronadamson7463 yes I meant we build after. Thanks for fixing my grammar. 👍 You -> pleural
@eetoved1758
@eetoved1758 Жыл бұрын
Why is it that Dave says "your debt becomes OUR debt," but wealth isn't. 😂😂😂 I don't often disagree with Dave, but something is screwed up about this discussion.
@heenakaur7330
@heenakaur7330 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it!
@Jigbunu
@Jigbunu 11 ай бұрын
Not when you get married! Hence it’s a scam
@jillgott6567
@jillgott6567 Жыл бұрын
If they break up my view- he leaves with what he brought into the marriage, she the same - you bring it, you leave with it. But, what they make together in the marriage they split. And that is that.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but imagine she owns a house, I own a business. We marry. My business income pays for maintenance of the house for 10 years; new roof, new floor, kitchen remodel, whatever. So then do I get equity in the house out of the divorce? But she can't pay me equity of the house without an income, she would have to sell it. So now I get a business but she doesn't get a house.
@brucefredrickson9677
@brucefredrickson9677 3 ай бұрын
That's if the judge agrees with your plan.
@michaelh2282
@michaelh2282 Жыл бұрын
"We can always end the prenup later." 😂. Right... I'm sure she'll buy that nonsense.
@ihaveadreamformykids4400
@ihaveadreamformykids4400 Жыл бұрын
Get a prenup that says whatever you established before getting married is yours and whatever she had is hers. But going forward, whatever you both make is conjugal properties.
@ij1376
@ij1376 Жыл бұрын
Her disliking the idea of a prenup is a red flag. She's either naive and doesn't comprehend the reality of divorce settlements or is malicious and wants his money.
@chukuemekaoje1015
@chukuemekaoje1015 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that pre-nups cannot be too one-sided and that judges have discretion in how much of the agreement to hold up. Best thing this guy can do (from what I've read) for the caller and his fiance to each have a lawyer, so the fiancee can have her interests protected.
@ryanlowe509
@ryanlowe509 Жыл бұрын
Best solution is no marriage license and living in a non common law state
@unsuckified3192
@unsuckified3192 Жыл бұрын
There have been plenty of cases where the situation has flipped too. He loses his business and goes broke while wife then inherits millions from her family and now the situation is reversed. Pre-nups are supposed to protect both sides.
@sustainabilitytheory5154
@sustainabilitytheory5154 Жыл бұрын
You're right, most states have several reasons a pre-nup can be voided by a judge, including both parties not having their own attorneys.
@DBS472
@DBS472 Жыл бұрын
Every prenup is one-sided. That’s the entire point of the prenup. It’s arguing about how much one person is going to get fleeced
@pep590
@pep590 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanlowe509Maybe he is not an an atheist and doesn't have those lower morals?
@qbraun9241
@qbraun9241 Жыл бұрын
I personally would not get married with that level of assets. I would definitly turn it into an LLC and have it pay a regular income. Becsuse if anything goes wrong, even with a pre-nup, he will facing all kinds of loses. Attorneys are smart, they love billable hours, and here lately family law judges have been finding reasons to dismiss the pre-nup during the divorce preceedings.
@CAEO416
@CAEO416 Жыл бұрын
My net worth was 10 times my partners when we met. In Australia you only need to live together for 9 months and you are considered “married” in the eyes of the law. I explained to my partner that I was living with a chronic illness and did not know how long I could keep working for so I would never jeopardise my future financial security for anyone because of this. He signed a pre-nup. (We call them a financial binding agreement here). I did have to retire 8 years into our relationship and both of us support each other financially, emotionally, spiritually. Protecting yourself financially is hugely important.
@SilenceSlayer224
@SilenceSlayer224 Жыл бұрын
Big red flag for me: She said he likes the money more than her. This could be an exaggeration on what she said, he could have made her feel that way by what he said, or she could be a gold digging drama queen. Either way I think this seriously needs addressed before anyone signs anything.
@djpuplex
@djpuplex Жыл бұрын
Sounds like gaslighting to me. She probably loves his money more than she loves him.
@fauxbro1983
@fauxbro1983 Жыл бұрын
if you're a business owner definitely get a pre-up. provided you have employees, you can be putting them at risk if your future wife decides you need to liquidate your business for her to cash out. a divorce caused the owner of the LA dodgers mlb team to sell. and just because you get a prenup doesn't mean she'll be penniless in a divorce. it's just a pre-arrangement.
@northtexan95
@northtexan95 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to make the same comment. Business owners have to consider their business, employees, and customers. What happens if you get divorced or are in a coma for three months? A Pre-nup can protect what you've built and someone your going to marry should understand that.
@jd3thegreat
@jd3thegreat Жыл бұрын
Not to mention business partners, who get screwed the worst when the vindictive ex wife now owns 1/3 of the company.
@steelcastle5616
@steelcastle5616 Жыл бұрын
A prenup is not about the wealthy loving their money more than their fiancee. It's about the less wealthy fiancee loving the wealthy partner's money more. The "love con" is one of the oldest ways to acquire another person's "pot of gold" -- and it's old because it works.
@AlexPerazaTV
@AlexPerazaTV Жыл бұрын
A prenup has no relevance during a marriage. It only matters during a divorce. So unless she plans on divorcing him, the penup should not bother her at all.
@TheAustrianPainter87
@TheAustrianPainter87 Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexPerazaTV 👏
@KS-cl8br
@KS-cl8br Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexPerazaTV Liar, if he divorces her she would get their money. Either could divorce leaving her with little.
@AlexPerazaTV
@AlexPerazaTV Жыл бұрын
@@KS-cl8br But she came with little and he came with alot. Why does having sex with him give her permission to leave with alot?
@steelcastle5616
@steelcastle5616 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexPerazaTV You're talking like all prenups are the same. They can be as different as flavors of ice cream.
@parker10551
@parker10551 Жыл бұрын
Me and my wife started from the bottom and couldn't pay bills from time to time. Together 8, married 4. When we met i was at 27k (net) a year avg. to owning my own business now and making $100k my first year. She's my partner in crime and i couldn't have built it without her being my rock. Thats the difference. Get a prenup
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
I agree. However, the caller doesn’t understand community property. His property will NOT be hers equally upon marriage.
@imrindar
@imrindar 6 ай бұрын
@@genxx2724 That is not necessarily correct. It can become community property if he comingles it with community property.
@ellencox8415
@ellencox8415 Жыл бұрын
🤨 The fact she was willing to throw the "you love your money more than me" at you and wasn't just like "I completely understand." is a huge 🚩 to me. This is why you're calling and you know this is a serious consideration for deal breaker. Trust your gut and get the prenup or end it.
@williamjohn8633
@williamjohn8633 Жыл бұрын
The irony is that she loves his money more than she loves him, otherwise she'd have signed that in a heartbeat
@allthingsnu4673
@allthingsnu4673 Жыл бұрын
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@faithnjoroge5861
@faithnjoroge5861 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Get a prenup
@barnabusdoyle4930
@barnabusdoyle4930 8 ай бұрын
Prenups have such a bad reputation. Most prenups are actually really good for both sides.
@MrAwesome3O5
@MrAwesome3O5 Жыл бұрын
Dave’s co host clearly disagrees but doesn’t wanna ruffle his feathers😂
@jimroscovius
@jimroscovius Жыл бұрын
She did - she questioned him.
@fauxbro1983
@fauxbro1983 Жыл бұрын
Cause dave would initiate a work divorce and send her packing lol. And of course there's no female that's gonna say get a pre nup lol
@jimroscovius
@jimroscovius Жыл бұрын
@@fauxbro1983 No, he wouldn't. They work great together.
@Getz_T
@Getz_T Жыл бұрын
I think she thought that Dave is going to say what they accumulate after marriage its joint, but Dave is having none of that period.
@MrAwesome3O5
@MrAwesome3O5 Жыл бұрын
@@jimroscovius her body language had A LOT more to say than what she did
@ChristopherT1
@ChristopherT1 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect dave to say that. Glad he is changing his views on the world today and the modern woman. Yes remove all hope that she can just marry you leave for any reason and take half of your wealth. That gives her MUCH more incentive to cooperate and work through hard times. I’ll never get legally married again after going through the divorce meat grinder.
@fehilyfitness
@fehilyfitness Жыл бұрын
He can avoid all of this by not getting married!
@ugabuga1361
@ugabuga1361 Жыл бұрын
Huge red flag, “you love your money more than me” Uhh yea… being with 10mil is hard. A girl being pretty and saying yes to a wedding is not hard at all.
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo Жыл бұрын
Yeah if he is questioning all this then it isn’t a good sign
@ourtruth216
@ourtruth216 Жыл бұрын
@@ugabuga1361 so should he never be with a woman again? Or should he remain rich and just use women when ever he wants and toss them to the side because he’s rich lol he’ll end up getting a random woman pregnant and paying her half anyway 😂
@zackarykelsay3349
@zackarykelsay3349 Жыл бұрын
Of course the woman in the room would say, well what if the business grows because of her and she gets nothing. She’s not bringing 10 million dollars to the table to begin with so that cancels out what if . It’s alot easier to make money when you have money. It sounds like she already has a problem with the prenup so I’d say he better think real hard before he marries her because there is going to be issues
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 Жыл бұрын
Yup. I avoided marriage and single mothers since high school and only knew mostly women with their own wealth through the years. My girlfriend has her wealth,home,investments,savings, etc. in Italy and I have mine. Met her on a Dubai/Paris flight in 2001 and together ever since. No kids. Money is never an argument or issue. My sisters laugh because some of their female friends don’t like our relationship at all and say we are cheating the system.
@keeleywhitton8658
@keeleywhitton8658 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually shocked by Dave here. People are focusing on whether or not she helps with the direct growth of the business. I think that's irrelevant. I am a stay at home mum by agreement with my husband. That means I have given up on my earning potential to take care of our family. We are a team. When I say I dont make any money, he says, "You make what I make, imagine me managing life without you. You make it possible for me to do my job!" I don't do his job. I'm not a decision maker in that field. But I have spent the last 10 years out of the professional world because of a choice we made together. If our marriage ended suddenly, I would be 10 years short of work/skills/professional experience. It could be very difficult for me and as we made this decision together, it is certainly his responsibility as well as mine. Now, to me, none of this matters because we have ordinary finances but I wouldn't marry someone who wasnt prepared to recognise my value from the marriage onwards. I dont see how that would make me a gold digger. I wouldnt feel comfortable being married to a millionaire who didn't feel any need, or even desire, to share his wealth with me (at least from the point of marriage onwards).
@HackerNomada
@HackerNomada Жыл бұрын
A couple of things: * she doesn’t have to be at home after they get married. She can continue working. * their impact in their business by being a home wife is probably negligible, he can do as well hiring someone to do all the chores 24/7 and have less risks. * If she is contributing with the business, then he can HIRE HER and COMPENSATE HER properly. * She can benefit in their career by leveraging in the guy’s is contacts.
@heninthefoxhouse
@heninthefoxhouse Жыл бұрын
@@HackerNomada You're missing the point. It's so hard for men to get this. Women are doing LABOR that is uncompensated in this scenario. "She's eating off the table"?! So basically you're treating your wife like a live in maid. Not only are they doing extraordinary amounts of unpaid labor, even if it is a choice, they should be compensated financially. Imagine how many women pour hours of labor and energy into their husband's careers and then get nothing for it when he leaves them for a younger woman. It happens all the time. Women deserve better protection from our society.
@HackerNomada
@HackerNomada Жыл бұрын
@@heninthefoxhouseyou’re assuming that she is doing unpaid labor because is the tradition of our society, but she dont have to, or maybe isn’t doing it. Not all couples put the burden of shores in the wife is shoulders. unpaid women labor is a problem. But she have already a good networth. She is working by herself. We dont know how they split home chores
@texan903
@texan903 Жыл бұрын
​@heninthefoxhouse having housing, food, clothing, utilities, transportation, and medical care covered in exchange for a choice to exit the workforce in favor of having a family is not free labor. Women who see it this way need to not marry so they can continue to focus on their careers and finances. If she doesn't view her soon to be husband as a financial incentive, signing a prenup is no issue. She will benefit from the rewards of her husband's labor while he loses time at home with his children.
@gottasay1157
@gottasay1157 Жыл бұрын
great until you get divorced, then he will say you had nothing to do with going to work to earn it.
@rdbeaz
@rdbeaz Жыл бұрын
Dave is so wrong on this...if you have a pension or a 401k get a prenup
@nancyhsu5565
@nancyhsu5565 7 ай бұрын
Always sign a prenup, that's my opinion. It shows that you do love that person. I've always struggled financially no matter how hard I work due to health issues. Prenups protect and benefit both parties if the terms are fair.
@mugentuner
@mugentuner Жыл бұрын
One thing I know female suitors don't like are ultimatums and prenups. I agree the dude should get some kind of structured prenups being worth that much.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
Suitors are males.
@jackdaniels5134
@jackdaniels5134 Жыл бұрын
Make sure that prenup is iron clad. If the fiancée isn't thrilled with the prenup, tell her go get a net worth of 10 million then come back to you.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been single my whole life. I’m now FI and can retire. If I were to marry, I’d have a prenup. I’m in a community property state and it would be my separate property, but I do not want to be at risk of fighting to defend it in court in old age. No way, José.
@9liveslisa
@9liveslisa Жыл бұрын
I would get a prenup in this situation. If she doesn't understand why you are doing it, then you shouldn't marry her.
@ji-inroh495
@ji-inroh495 Жыл бұрын
If the tables were turned, there is no doubt that she would require a prenup. There's a reason Tiger Woods' ex-wife never got remarried.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
Getting remarried cuts off alimony.
@oceanside88
@oceanside88 Жыл бұрын
His ex wife's family is also stinkin rich. Did you know that?
@Anglophile2012
@Anglophile2012 Жыл бұрын
100% correct Always remember you marry the family You have to get along with all relatives and may have to live with them
@thecurrentmoment
@thecurrentmoment Жыл бұрын
I think sharing in the income and wealth generation from the point when they get married, minus the ownership of the business, is a good plan
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what community property, the law in his state of Texas, provides, if it’s his efforts that generate income from his business and increase in its value. Each spouse’s efforts belong to the marriage (community).
@thecurrentmoment
@thecurrentmoment Жыл бұрын
@@genxx2724 thanks, I didn't know the rules of Texas. Does that exclude property that was owned before the relationship/marraige?
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
@@thecurrentmoment Yes. Property owned before the marriage remains that spouse’s separate property. Inheritances one spouse receives during the marriage are also separate property.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
It makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it? As I said elsewhere, this is Spanish law by way of Mexico.
@EmpressMermaid
@EmpressMermaid Жыл бұрын
If i could give this woman any advice it's to make sure this pre-nup works both ways. NEVER agree to be a SAHM and do not give up your career. Keep working, contribute a predetermined proportional amount to the family budget (so he can't claim she is freeloading) and bank the rest. If she helps run the company, insist on being on the payroll same as any other employee. This is particularly important if you are going to have kids. That way later when he decides he wants his 22 year old secretary instead of his fortysomething wife, he can't dump her on the streets with not a penny to her name.
@TheMainMan364
@TheMainMan364 Жыл бұрын
This is terrible advice
@EmpressMermaid
@EmpressMermaid Жыл бұрын
@@TheMainMan364 please explain
@Ksbabyg
@Ksbabyg Жыл бұрын
@@TheMainMan364 this is an excellent advice for the woman. I could care less about his money but i have to take care of me too!
@dcg590
@dcg590 Жыл бұрын
You’re a selfish woman. If she didn’t have a penny to begin with, she isnt magically entitled to his money. You chose to be a sahm, so live with your choices.
@evr0.904
@evr0.904 Жыл бұрын
This is why women shouldn't vote.
@codys5727
@codys5727 Жыл бұрын
You're better with the pre-nup. It's alot easier to get another fiancé with 10 million dollars than one with 2 million after she takes you
@practicaltheory
@practicaltheory Жыл бұрын
I don't know why he needs to include her in his business at all. As someone who has done that, it needlessly complicates your relationship and life. While you're at it, why marry?
@pep590
@pep590 Жыл бұрын
Because he really loves her and has high morals?
@calmtea5369
@calmtea5369 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with prenups, but children need to be considered and security for her if it ends in 20 years. Investments into a business for her to maintain an income or an amount of money written in if she gives up her career to raise children. Prenups are meant to protect both people.
@stevenlong5817
@stevenlong5817 Жыл бұрын
Pre nups are so easy to break. Once you transmute the funds, use any of it for the common benefit, it’s destroyed. I only drafted them for the less wealthy partner because I knew I could break it. Before the marriage, put some in an irrevocable trust for your kids etc.
@jeffdarleneriel5628
@jeffdarleneriel5628 Жыл бұрын
The problem with Dave is that he is a hypocrite. On-line Ramsey Solutions Dave says “When you get married, you’ve got to combine your money into joint accounts. You’re becoming one, so your finances should too. If you keep this one area separated, it can lead to separation in other areas. Don’t. Go. There. Work together from a shared account to create accountability, honesty and a sense that you’re in this together! Privately, terribly rich Dave says there is no way he will share his wealth in the event of a second marriage. They will be roommates.
@FreeAgent797
@FreeAgent797 Жыл бұрын
Why bother getting married?? The fact that he wants a prenups clearly shows that he is aware of the risks involved. So why go through with it??....smh
@thomasjefferson5727
@thomasjefferson5727 Жыл бұрын
Any marriage that involves the government should have a Prenuptial. All of them.
@Mr_New_Vegas_685
@Mr_New_Vegas_685 Жыл бұрын
Dave’s usual advice of not getting a prenup is based off of the quality of women available when he was dating… It’s drastically different now.
@TheCuriousPsych
@TheCuriousPsych Жыл бұрын
I disagree. While there are always differences in generations, humans tend to behave the same regardless of generation, era, and geography. Statistically speaking, you will mostly find women of your same caliber and quality as a human being.
@yourgooglemeister6745
@yourgooglemeister6745 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCuriousPsych We found the simp!
@TheCuriousPsych
@TheCuriousPsych Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-os5zd that’s the neat part, I never have. I met my wife in a chemistry class. I know not everyone takes chemistry but it may be beneficial to go fishing where the good fish are, not necessarily in the bottom of the societal barrel (e.g. dating apps)
@iBryanDBrown
@iBryanDBrown Жыл бұрын
FACTS! It's a new era!
@rosemontoya3656
@rosemontoya3656 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-os5zd Neither are the so called men…they’re looking for something else too
@vickieclark5931
@vickieclark5931 Жыл бұрын
I definitely get where Jade is coming from. It gets a bit more complicated if she helps build the business and increases the revenue. But she could be without anything if they happen to end their marriage. So anything the wife does that helps contribute she may never get anything from that. That's really something to think about before getting married.
@dcg590
@dcg590 Жыл бұрын
So what if she gets nothing? She isn’t entitled to his money period
@shunm8247
@shunm8247 Жыл бұрын
The seed is already planted. He was a millionaire before they met. Be a good wife and support your husband. 6:40
@coolkidvt01
@coolkidvt01 10 ай бұрын
​@dcg590 what if she stays home with the kids and sacrifices her career to support his career.... then she might feel entitled to something atleast.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 7 ай бұрын
@@coolkidvt01 If one spouse doesn't work for 10 years why should we call that sacrificing a career for the spouse's career. Why don't we call it the working spouse subsidized the unemployment of the other spouse? You got 10 years without having to work, is there no value in that at all?
@rsstnnr76
@rsstnnr76 Жыл бұрын
This is one reason to marry young and you build everything together. Too many people wait 10-20 years to get married and start a family and now you have all kinds of issues to deal with.
@shyowl3453
@shyowl3453 Жыл бұрын
To be fair I haven’t exactly gotten much choice in waiting or not, the women in my area are too much of a minefield and I don’t travel much so I don’t really meet outside of this area
@sailorsister211
@sailorsister211 10 ай бұрын
Marrying young does have a lot of problem. Static have shown divorce happens more with couples who marry young. Plus financial problem is 3rd reasons why ppl get divorced
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 7 ай бұрын
@@sailorsister211 Statistics are for average people. Your risk of anything is not dictated by the national average, it's based on your own decisions. So if you act like the average 18-year-old who gets married then expect the same risk of divorce.
@Mickey-jn7hy
@Mickey-jn7hy 6 ай бұрын
@@sailorsister211 58 year old here, with my husband since age 17, dated for 6 years, six years married before kids and now 34 years married tomorrow. Both have careers and raised children together as equals. Living proof statistics only matter in the abstract and that they are not always correct.
@DaltonsFriendswood
@DaltonsFriendswood Жыл бұрын
The stuff had had before their marriage is considered separate property and not automatically subject to the split in a divorce. You also can throw out the prenup and make whatever deal you want in the event of a breakup. Its just there as a fall back in case no agreement can be reached.
@DallasCoryell
@DallasCoryell 8 ай бұрын
His fiancee said "you love your money more than me" when he brought up the prenup. This is a HUGE red flag, not only of her intentions with the money, but her maturity, communication skills and mental health. What a horrible thing to say to the man you supposedly love. Why would she ever marry a man she truly thought this about? My point is she doesn't actually believe this; it was a statement meant to manipulate him, and I bet this is not the first time she's said something like this to control his behavior. Not only would I definitely get a prenup if the marriage went ahead, I would postpone the wedding indefinitely. Time will reveal who she really is.
@critterdude311
@critterdude311 Жыл бұрын
The is the first marital 'shit' test coming from the woman (more to come once you are married btw). If you cave on the prenup requirement she knows she's got you and the relationship by the balls. I would gently explain to her it's there to protect both parties. If she refuses after having some time to digest it, it's time to say adios.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t not protect her. It protects him against her. That’s not “protecting both parties”.
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Жыл бұрын
​@@genxx2724she's the only one who has anything to gain. Of course it only protects him.
@SarahGoss-k1n
@SarahGoss-k1n Жыл бұрын
I agree both parties should be okay with prenups. It’s protection for both parties in the mist of conflict. If she has helped him build in anyway her contribution should not be disregarded or ignored and vice versa. The prenup should consider domestic situations that would leave either party w/o financial stability if split occurs etc.
@juan-pauldwyer
@juan-pauldwyer Жыл бұрын
Women are so obsessed with taking the man's money. look how the lady that's next to Dave changes the moment he mentions doing prenup on the value and future value of the business.
@mrkadiz1244
@mrkadiz1244 Жыл бұрын
First to leave if business fails
@fsmoura
@fsmoura Жыл бұрын
lol she can't hold back her own instincts
@anniealexander9616
@anniealexander9616 Жыл бұрын
He could always marry a woman who is also a busy owner. But I'm betting his fiance is gorgeous and feminine. Men are so OBESSED WITH LOOKS AND FREE ASS!!!
@anniealexander9616
@anniealexander9616 Жыл бұрын
I did very well in the real estate crash and I just got a marriage proposal Saturday night. But of course when it's a man gold digging it's true love. He couldn't possibly want me for my rental real estate and debt free lifestyle.
@Sheryl777
@Sheryl777 Жыл бұрын
@@anniealexander9616 👍
@thewaitingape
@thewaitingape Жыл бұрын
Spouses get whacked over hundred thousand insurance policys. Fourteen million? You keep that seperate.
@desistang8794
@desistang8794 Жыл бұрын
Even if she contributed to the growth of the business, there wouldn't be a business if he hadn't started it and turned it into a 7 million dollar enterprise. The benefit of her contribution is that she gets to enjoy the lifestyle of couples who own a business with a growth of 7 million dollars or more. The same would apply if she were the business owner.
@melissacharles8410
@melissacharles8410 Жыл бұрын
NOPPPEEEEEEEE. Wrong. Companies do mergers and acquired all the time. And not every merger or acquisitions successful. Therefore, if this couple MERGES and the business grows in value or goes through IPO and goes public, and SHE IS ADVISING HIM. SHE DESERVES HER FAIR SHAREE. PERIOD. Fk a lifestyle. Is that gonna pay for her retirement?????
@melissacharles8410
@melissacharles8410 Жыл бұрын
Is a first class ticket gonna pay for her retirement plan?
@desistang8794
@desistang8794 Жыл бұрын
A company being acquired doesn't automatically merit receiving half of the parent company's total value; they are typically bought out based on agreed-upon terms. In this particular case, the compensation received represents 100% of her lifestyle, right from day one, without any prior contributions. Her situation is more analogous to that of an exceptional employee who joined the company, played a pivotal role in its growth, and then departed, asserting a claim to half of the company's value simply due to their past contributions.@@melissacharles8410
@dnah02
@dnah02 Жыл бұрын
Even prenups can be undone be very careful.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
My neighbor, in a community property state, had substantial assets before she married a man who did not. She had a prenup. She STILL ended up losing part of it in the divorce.
@fsmoura
@fsmoura Жыл бұрын
Everything can be undone. The only way to be 100% sure is not having any money. (" o.o)
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
@@fsmoura Or not getting married.
@dnah02
@dnah02 Жыл бұрын
@@fsmoura or get married overseas like the pass port bros.
@Don-hn8qw
@Don-hn8qw Жыл бұрын
Even Dave's female host was perplexed by the idea that the caller's wife would never get ownership of the company. That's hilarious. Don't trust nobody man
@653Nottingham
@653Nottingham Жыл бұрын
A couple female coworkers asked me about marrying again. I said the only way I would marry today is with prenup. One said marriage is not a business. I said, yes but sadly divorce is a business.
@brent4073
@brent4073 Жыл бұрын
Whats comical is how many women have kids before marriage.. you can have a family and wedding and act like a family without the govt contract
@Brett-ib9jz
@Brett-ib9jz 4 ай бұрын
"Oh, you love your money more than me." 1 year later "Actually, I love your money than I love you."
@kathryncashner3294
@kathryncashner3294 9 ай бұрын
It sounds like all he wants to do with the prenup is to protect the business. If he does that, anything that he takes out of the business as his salary is still shared. The alternative is an "everything I brought into the marriage stays mine," which is a lot more troublesome and not what Dave is implying.
@jacobrodriguez7771
@jacobrodriguez7771 Жыл бұрын
Yeah good luck getting her to believe that a prenup is in her best interest.
@rosemontoya3656
@rosemontoya3656 Жыл бұрын
If she’s married and participates in the business then she’s a married partner without benefits…HOW WRONG IS THAT!…Only he has the income…totally not ok!😱 Prenup the 7 million is fair! 🚨If you’re the fiancé reading this PLEASE DONT AGREE TO THAT! Go to a premarital councilor before you marry! And if the caller is reading this Please reconsider carefully, unless she’s so much younger and considered too attractive for you then reconsider marriage And how demeaning for Ramsey to call his wife a hillbilly mind!
@mkmom8473
@mkmom8473 4 ай бұрын
Hillbilly wisdom is a compliment.
@kay22100
@kay22100 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Jade really agrees with Dave on this issue lol She didn’t want to publicly disagree with the boss though
@AlexPerazaTV
@AlexPerazaTV Жыл бұрын
He loses half his assets is she leaves. She loses nothing if he leaves. That's why prenups matter. People want to pretend like "he leaves her with nothing". Yeah but she came in with nothing, so shes NOT losing anything. You don't seem to feel bad that she leaves him with nothing and even 50% poorer, do you? Exactly. Fake empathy. She isn't left with nothing, she is left with EVERYTHING she brought and LOSES absolutely nothing.
@bigpicturethinking5620
@bigpicturethinking5620 Жыл бұрын
There is no shortage of quality women for good men. Drop this one and another will come your way naturally that will fill the role better.
@Eli390
@Eli390 Жыл бұрын
Please run she didn't put in the hours to build that wealth you did she did nothing
@Gramps935
@Gramps935 Жыл бұрын
On a very basic level she isnt qualified to own a business of that level. I would make the pre-nup for them to share everything as a typical couple, but he owns 100% of the business.
@wenchefauske6898
@wenchefauske6898 6 ай бұрын
As normal in usa, the voman I SAHM for the kids and run the familie whe he is running the business. When divorced she will not get anything cause of the prenup that's the business is his. What about her work for the whole family doesn't it count ??
@Gramps935
@Gramps935 6 ай бұрын
@@wenchefauske6898 I think she certainly has a right as a couple to share the profits, but as for ownership of the whole business she has no place.
@coreyfranco7060
@coreyfranco7060 8 ай бұрын
Why does this lady think that the wife should aquire some business ownership. How does that make sense?
@schondra1993
@schondra1993 Жыл бұрын
No.
@rossmcgreg6r642
@rossmcgreg6r642 Жыл бұрын
More info needed. How old are they? Any previous marriages/children? Has she been effective in managing her own money? Does she have debt? etc. Interesting question and surprising answers.
@unsuckified3192
@unsuckified3192 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Too many people jump on the "red flag" bandwagon without knowing the whole story. A situation you can't know fully at all with this short phone discussion.
@cdub7373
@cdub7373 Жыл бұрын
If she thinks you like the money more than her than assure her that's 100% correct. Then explain it's better to cry in a penthouse than a park bench
@andreasomera3153
@andreasomera3153 Жыл бұрын
Dave is saying “William, don’t trust her, get a prenup”, then turns around and tells the fiancé “trust William, he’ll give you what’s yours in a divorce”. Why the double standard?
@augustinerubio2004
@augustinerubio2004 Жыл бұрын
Wrap it in latex or she'll get your paychecks
@JdogPH01
@JdogPH01 Жыл бұрын
Amen…… family is the #1 enemy to a wealth gap relationship. From first hand experience. You are 1,000% correct.
@marias5088
@marias5088 Жыл бұрын
If I really loved the guy, I would not care for one second if I got any of the money he had made before he married me; I would only care to be with him for the rest of my life. All that talk that he loves his money more than he loves her sounds fishy. By all means, he should not marry her without a prenup agreement.
@dank1518
@dank1518 Жыл бұрын
My wife is high net & I’m average & have the same as Dave recommended, no problems.
@glenchitty1515
@glenchitty1515 Жыл бұрын
Women file for divorce over 80% of the time. Over 60% of marriages end in divorce The laws are set up to destroy a man after a divorce If you come in as a man with wealth you absolutely need a prenup
@bamafencer12
@bamafencer12 Жыл бұрын
Women doesn't divorce just because, usually it's distress, finances, infidelity, dishonesty, etc. Men aren't perfect.
@JustinCase780
@JustinCase780 Жыл бұрын
@@bamafencer12 Actually, many do. There are also a lot of home wrecker ladies out there because they can pull it off. Re-look at the stats posted above as those speak for themselves.
@bamafencer12
@bamafencer12 Жыл бұрын
@@JustinCase780 I agree but aren't you going to acknowledge that men makes mistakes too? My father for example did jack all while married to my mom. He didn't help out at all.
@JustinCase780
@JustinCase780 Жыл бұрын
@@bamafencer12 Re-look the stats above. Yes, of course and your situation sucked but that isn't the majority of scenerios.
@bamafencer12
@bamafencer12 Жыл бұрын
@@JustinCase780 Try asking normal everyday women if their husbands help out. Oh wait you rather read some red pill nonsense on the web.
@VeeAlee
@VeeAlee Жыл бұрын
Lol, the person without the money always feel like that hahahahahah😂 they love guilt tripping is real
@luminous6969
@luminous6969 Жыл бұрын
Of course she thinks that getting a prenup means he loves his money more than her LOL. But if he loses the coin flip and gets divorced, she doesn't love him anymore so now she has no reason NOT to take him to the cleaners and get her bag and run.
@Kai-qv2ig
@Kai-qv2ig Жыл бұрын
I think both of them should see a counselor before they decide to get married. Both started out by focusing on their net worth more than their love. This could lead to ongoing conflict in their future. He should offer her some security in case his heart changes.
@ballerz1
@ballerz1 Жыл бұрын
Wtf is a counselor supposed to say? They don't have 10 mil.
@Kai-qv2ig
@Kai-qv2ig Жыл бұрын
@@ballerz1 you got a lot to learn.
@ericwalker8382
@ericwalker8382 Жыл бұрын
Yea, she brought up money. You need a prenup for your prenup, clauses for children, everything. Protect yourself!!!
@tinmanslickgreasy999
@tinmanslickgreasy999 Жыл бұрын
Do not do it and if you do... you need a prenuptial. No way! Do not lot let someone try and convince you. He built the business she did not! This should not even be a question. All of a sudden she is going to be growing his business and thus deserves half? GTFOH HE SHOULD NOT GET MARRIED....WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE MOST WOMEN ARE INCENTIVIZED TO DIVORSE. 50% or more of all marriages end in divorce. 70% of marriages are initiated by women. If the women has even higher education she will initiate divorce 90% of the time. Prenup only or do not get married.
@stevengtv
@stevengtv Жыл бұрын
If Dave wasn’t here any of the other personalities would have said no to the prenup. They are all out of touch. All married young and built together. Even if he had 500k and she had zero, still get a prenup. What you built on your own is yours.
@lovetobe6118
@lovetobe6118 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Anything before marriage should be yours. Anything built after is a little different. The woman often works a man through school and then gives up her career while he builds wealth and a business, and has her stay home to care for children. That's when she is entitled a portion because she sacrificed her career and financial security to raise your children.
@joejoe-bs6jq
@joejoe-bs6jq Жыл бұрын
When my folks got married, they were 21 and 22 years old...neither much of anything to their name (Dad was just getting out of the Marine Corps after being a grunt in Vietnam). No need for a prenup because neither had anything to protect. Yes, they're still married 52 years later. I, on the other hand, am 42 years old, never found a woman to marry. However, now, I have assets of my own, and my sibling and I will split what's mom and dad's at some point in the future. I presume that whoever I meet will probably have her own assets (assuming I don't become a 50 year old man dating a 20 year old). A prenup is not a bad idea on my part, to ensure mom and dad's assets remain with my sibling and I, not get split off. The prenup protects multiple ways and for multiple things, as Dave pointed out, and is not just a way to screw someone over. This caller is absolutely correct to protect his business from his personal life....and protect his personal life from his business.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
Dave is the one who proclaimed “no prenups!” They’re just toeing the company line. Dave only recently changed his position after somehow realizing not everyone gets married at 22 with zero assets. He’s nuanced in two situations: 1) Significantly different wealth; and 2) Second marriages and there are offspring from the first marriage.
@Patrick-ot9kn
@Patrick-ot9kn Жыл бұрын
Easier solution just don't get married. She's not going to leave if she's attracted and she may leave anyway if married so what's the point. Just involving the state in your business for no reason at all. And if she's upset will just give her more of an impetus to leave cause there is a payday.
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 Жыл бұрын
If the woman got a lawyer no lawyer in their right mind would let her sign that or be liable for malpractice. Most prenups have some kind of basis schedule and contributions made by the spouse to a business would enable her to part of that business growth, in fact regardless of prenup in Texas she is probably eligible to get assets that have grown post marriage.
@Lighthouse1852
@Lighthouse1852 5 ай бұрын
BTW, the value of a business can change overnight. It's valuable to you, but it's not worth 7 mill until you've sold it for that price or higher. Because even the two nicest people can wind up divorcing, or future kids may muddle things up, it can be smart to separate the business from other assets. The business must be able to function as a separate entity no matter what. A prenup and legal (re)structuring of the business could address that. And if there are kids from prior relationships, their interests should be protected legally. But. It's not a good marriage if you as the only wealthy party hold all the cards, and you want her to just take it on faith that you'll never ever use your financial advantage against her. Trust goes two ways. There has to be some kind of power parity in a marriage. Please realize that she's taking a risk by marrying you, too. Especially if you think she should take charge of your home and social life so you can keep building your business, or you expect her to drop out of the workforce to raise kids. I'd hire her an excellent attorney to educate both of you on how to backstop her ability to support herself independently. That's what you want for both of you, right? Maybe you buy a nice house and put it in trust with her as sole beneficiary. Maybe you commit to a large monthly payment into her retirement fund. Whatever. She shouldn't have to take a vow of poverty while devoting to you her best working and childbearing years, just to prove something to you. And if the business stays yours-only so that she must rely on herself to build her own wealth, you'd better be supporting your wife's career path. Plan to hire household help so she can finish her degrees and work long hours. It's not fair to ask her to sacrifice her own financial security for the benefit of your personal business and investments.
@rodrigofernandez9055
@rodrigofernandez9055 Жыл бұрын
Maaaan.... Don't get married.... Everybody changes over time.... 7, 10 or 15 years later you might not be happy with your spouse. Think about the multiple "best friends" that you have had over the course of your life.
@wickedbird1538
@wickedbird1538 Жыл бұрын
😊😊A friend got a prenup that says she gets 4 dogs. His side says she takes care of them.
@savanah1407
@savanah1407 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking up Jade-that was a good point. If something happens-the growth shouldn’t not be split.
@williamjohn8633
@williamjohn8633 6 ай бұрын
the appreciations of his biz dont deserve to be split. She's not built it
@Jigbunu
@Jigbunu 11 ай бұрын
Yea the reason the business went from 7mil to 14mil is because I cook you a few dinners and cleaned the kitchen. Let’s be real here.
@JonesyTheFirst69
@JonesyTheFirst69 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that reason is ridiculous. You can hire a maid and a meal prep company. Cooking and cleaning doesn't make a business grow 😂
@michaelb.8953
@michaelb.8953 Жыл бұрын
If she's concerned about the prenup than maybe it's the other way around and she loves his money more than him.
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Жыл бұрын
It certainly is that way with 90%+ of women. Look at any dating profile and count the number of times women mention "must be financially stable".
@Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries
@Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries Жыл бұрын
@hello77779 It's all about context with that one. I don't disagree that women want a guy who makes money, but I knew when I was single and used to say that, it was because I had plenty going on and I wasn't going be taking care of a permanently unemployed man like a little baby lol. I was looking for a like minded man with a similar background.
@SanaKhan-bc2vo
@SanaKhan-bc2vo 6 ай бұрын
Definitely get a Prenup in Texas
@skyrobin4008
@skyrobin4008 Жыл бұрын
Get married and do whatever you can legally to protect your finances. The people saying don’t get married have been burnt in the past and I get it. But if you want a family, I always encourage marriage. We don’t need more dysfunction in the society with single moms and dads having multiple children out of wedlock.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 Жыл бұрын
I don’t want to get married and been with my girlfriend for over 20 years but I will never tell anyone not to get married or encourage it. It’s big business and opportunity. A bad marriage combined with the last recession/housing crash was how I bought a $560k newly remodeled beach condo for $240k cash back then.
@blueflameSM
@blueflameSM Жыл бұрын
Red flags everywhere. Time to run. The fact that she wasn’t thrilled and used the line “you love money more than me.” Is a sign to run for the hills. They can get married, and have separate financing. Separate savings, checking, etc. it is a HORRIBLE idea to pay her in this marriage, absolutely do not do that. The caller isn’t going to exclude his fiancée, she’ll be living the dream. It’s just a layer to protect him in the case both separate.
@alanm500
@alanm500 Жыл бұрын
Better to just find a girl that’s got some of her own money and doesn’t just see $$$ when she looks at you.
@nicorsar
@nicorsar Жыл бұрын
This is the biggest problem with first-generation wealth, especially those who have it in real estate (80% of millionaires in a scholarly study have wealth through property ownership as a major factor, so its not uncommon per se)....they have the wealth, they do not have historical access to the class structures where they will meet a woman who has a wealthy background (they might be in the wealth club but not the social/elitist club - of which they are always resentful (Dave has shown he has some of that too)). Point is - easier said than done in his circumstance; he's not Ivy League academic; he's not 'old money' (I dont think from the way he speaks), he's real estate....there is just a difference. I live in one of the wealthiest places in Florida and I've seen this play out time and time again). Blue jeans millionaire. Nothing wrong with that - nothing at all (good for him dang it!)...but hard to find a woman of wealth that way.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
@@nicorsar Interesting dynamic. Not only not having access, but also not having the confidence to get access, or not having anything else in common with that set, plus impostor syndrome. And it applies to women, too. It’s even more difficult for women, because single women are viewed as a threat by wives, and wives control social acceptance into the group. They may want the unmarried men for their daughters or friends.
@MrJimmy3459
@MrJimmy3459 Жыл бұрын
The conundrum that arises is successful\Educated women have a high divorce rate at 90%
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJimmy3459 Men cheat when their wives out-earn them. They are trying to reaffirm their manhood.
@karenmassey8354
@karenmassey8354 Жыл бұрын
@@nicorsarThanks for explaining this. I’ve long wondered why men like this don’t just marry their wealth equivalent counterpart.
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 Жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea: The prenup can provide her with seed money for a business or investing, and lapse upon her growing it into wealth that equals his.
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