Ramsey Show Reacts to the 9-5 Work Schedule

[@lartrak]

Her only real complaint is her horrible commute and what it does to her time. It's not the 9-5 schedule. She said she has to get on the train at 7:30, which means she likely has to be out the door at 7, so up at 6:30 AM. She gets home close to 6:30. Has to be getting ready for bed by 10 - down to 3.5 hours. Spend 30 minutes eating, 30 minutes shower and post shower. You've got other random crap you have to do most nights for twenty, thirty minutes (dishwasher, washing clothes, etc). She's down to two, maybe two and a half hours max of free time, not four. It's not enough to go out and do anything with people or even meet people, it means you're socially dead Monday to Thursday unless you cut down on sleep and feel like crap at work and perform poorly. You're also mentally tired after work and don't want to do anything - you can force yourself to exercise, but it feels awful, not good, as you want to sit and not move after that terrible commute. It's a world of difference than having a true 6-7 or so hours most people get on a 9-5. It sucks, don't know how anyone puts up with it. It's why I'd absolutely never commute that far.

[@EricDaMAJ]

Yes. When I learned about the time suck commutes are I always tried to live close to work.

[@ashleyshrader6679]

I commute 2 hours each way and work 8am to 5pm. But I have a paycheck and can support my family. It sucks but it's what we do

[@EricDaMAJ]

​@@ashleyshrader6679 It does suck. But you should move closer to work or get another job closer to work ASAP. A four hour commute means you drive ~ 200 miles a day at ~50 mph. The average US car gets ~25 MPG. That means your car uses up to 4 gallons a day. The average US gas cost is $3.259. So your car probably drinks ~$13.00 a day. The average working month is 20-22 days, so going with 21 that's ~$273.63 a month for about ~$3,380 a year. Car upkeep in America averages ~0.0968 cents per mile or $5,000 annually for you (based on a 260 day work year). So that's ~$8,380 a year (it could be a full 10 grand if you live in a high cost of living area). If you halve your commute by living closer to work to an hour each way you could invest that $4,000. $341.66 invested each month into an Index Fund at a 10% return will earn you $500,000 in 40 years _after_ taxes and inflation. But the real long term damage is the time stolen from your family.

[@watercolorworksbykaren2976]

Yep. The commute is the issue. I live and work in a small town because I didn't want to deal the metropolitan area commute-- there is no reason to spend 3 hours of my day commuting!!! That's a lot of my life. Nope.

[@bChipps]

Plus there is the fact that you dont get to go outside and enjoy the daylight in the winter with that schedule its dark when you leave and dark when you get home.

[@ayo_k32]

Sorry, I agree with her. Rushing to work every day and getting home late is exhausting, especially when you’re walking and taking the subway every day.

[@danamarie8718]

I wouldn’t call 6:15 late. In fact, that is pretty early. She has several hours of free time before she has to go to bed and can still get a good night’s sleep. Or she can get up earlier and work out or have other free time in the morning. She is gone for work about 11 hours a day. Take another 8 for sleeping and an hour to get ready for work, and she still has 4 hours per day free, plus her whole weekend. She is pretty lucky if you ask me.

[@marianemashkalo4182]

You Americans walk too little and then get fat. It's useful. I walked to uni every day for 3 km, and back. So, 6km of brisk walk a day. And I went for a run morning or evening

[@joeldaboi6115]

I love how you think 4 hours of free time is enough when you include chores and making dinner plus other errands you have to do ​@@danamarie8718

[@MeakH1]

​@@danamarie8718having 4 hours and spending it wisely is crucial.

[@Leo-vr3bg]

@@danamarie8718 No it's not. I literally eat dinner at 5. Most people I know eat dinner between 5 and 6. The sun is down by 5 this time of year. In bed by 8 or 9. I feel for her, that commute sucks. I do an hour commute twice a week. It takes me basically from 6-5ish. That's a pretty long day. Better than 12s at the factory though.

[@joeplem5329]

This is why the younger generation are pushing for 4 day work weeks and frankly I'm all for it!!! That whole "you can enjoy your life after you retire at 65" younger people are not having it lol

[@semosancus5506]

Where does a 4 day work week work? I work for a highly competitive software vendor and we simply can't take off a day. Our competitors would eat us up.

[@AuAdventures]

How about you start your own company and only require your employees to come in 4 days/week?

[@joesmith3590]

Younger people are poorer and have less wealth and less family. How is that working out?

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

Less family can only be a good thing@@joesmith3590

[@ranger34ab]

They aren't preparing for the future either...they are too busy fighting issues that have been largely remediated in the past and then complaining that no one is giving them a gold star.

[@kateluck1555]

I’m a nurse and I thank god for 12 hour shifts. Full time is 3 days or nights a week and 4 days off. The days are long and hard sometimes, but so worth it for the 3 day work week. I could never work 5 days a week 9-5. Those hours sound so gross to me

[@joimumu]

The main difference is you learn how to manage to handle the free time you have and it is a skill that takes time to develop

[@MadisonSpearslol]

@@joimumu she (original poster) has a 3 day work week as opposed to 5. OP has 4 free days!!

[@brady3xox]

I do four 10 hour shifts and could never do five 8's. I've always been curious about three 12's! I figure, on a day you have to work, your day is already pretty much gone anyways so might as well work a little longer and have more days off and less commuting hours per week

[@B2U23]

I am a RN and agree with the 12s. I only have to work 8 days a month but often work much more. I love that I can have 22 days off a month and still have a decent pay.

[@IvanaGirl]

It’s horrible!!!!

[@jordancraig7808]

To be honest, I feel her. My commute to work is a 3 hour round trip so "work from home" days are such a blessing. Saving those 3 hours allows me to get things done and have a bit lf a life Mon to Fri.

[@laurants]

Listen to an audio book

[@boopyournose5698]

For me working from home is such a blessing too. I get to pinch cleaning during my breaks and actually get free time the minute my working hours are over. Not to mention always being around people I actually like.

[@lindakwayep]

I totally get her. You get home at around 6:15 pm after commuting, you are tired! You cook, eat, clean , shower and watch may be a Tv show to relax: the 4 hours are gone. You go to bed and repeat. It’s not just about time, but energy.

[@whosaidthat9265]

Welcome to 2024. She is choosing to commute. She could do online classes but she made a choice

[@kathygarnett5115]

Welcome to being a grownup

[@ItsVes999]

@@kathygarnett5115a wage slave*. There are ppl out there that don’t do this. They’re mostly the ones with all the money.

[@ApostlicNinjaGirl]

As someone who currently works a 9-5 and have for about 3 years, I agree with this girl. It sucks. It feels like prison. You’re stuck in one place ALL DAY and have almost no time to do anything. You get home, have work you HAVE to do at home and you don’t have time to do anything fun or to relax or anything. You don’t have a choice, you have to make money to survive, and you have to take care of your home, it doesn’t matter how miserable it makes you or how much you hate it or how much you feel imprisoned or like you have no time to enjoy life or regain energy. I don’t hate my job, but being stuck in one place all day with no ability to shift things around and not even getting paid much for my trouble really sucks.

[@monabiehl6213]

where do you find a 9-5 job? People say they were a 9-5 job. Most jobs I see are 8-5.

[@leechburglights]

@@monabiehl6213 hahah, I got promoted to an 8-5 desk job, and it turned to a 7-5 desk job, as sales rep at a transmission parts company. Didn't help that our customers were located in different parts of the country and you could never get finished at work until around 6pm. With a standard 2 hour commute, i was up at 5:30am and didn't get home till after 7pm on a normal day. SO yeah, you're right, there is no such thing as a 9-5. Unless you work for the government.

[@ElizaRad]

And if you add to how stressful some jobs are, and being hormonal, which she mentions in her video, I get how that can be overwhelming. I am at 10 min drive, and it makes a whole lot of difference. Being in public transportation is stressful, not just time consuming.

[@anndeecosita3586]

⁠@@leechburglightsGovernment jobs aren’t necessarily 9 to 5. There are different types. I worked for the military for awhile and my work day in theory started at 7 am. I usually arrived at 7:30 a.m. because the enlisted people were still doing PT until then. I do photography and videography so I go to different locations. I would go crazy if I had to stay in the same place every day. I don’t like working remotely all of the time either.

[@ladyhawk9032]

Americans in previous generations have done it!! GROW UP!! You and others like this whining brat are what's wrong with this country. No sympathy here.

[@TyGuyVideoBlogz]

Ken got that cake job with Ramsey and got out of touch real quick 😂

[@ltf9]

Scrolling to look for a comment like this...thank you! KZbinr complaining about us common folk that have to subsidize them by actually working...

[@mariopineda2293]

Nobody cares, work harder softies🤣

[@Mavryck_Tha_Myghty]

@ltf9 - welcome to America where you are compensated based on the value you bring to the marketplace.

[@TiktokTownhall]

Absolutely

[@khaleesiy.7886]

Exactly

[@carlosm4]

Didn’t know Ken would be this out touch “durr, durr, durr, it was difficult for me, so now it needs to be difficult for you too!”. Glad Rachel and Jade were able to balance and salvage the conversation

[@castleincorporated]

Yeah Jade is a breath of fresh air

[@isaacfortier1762]

Idk. He had me nodding along the whole time, lol. Life is tuf. Learn to cope with it. I feel like my geneneration doesn't understand that very well...

[@bryan_witha_whyy]

I think he’s on point. Assume she takes an hour to get ready, she wakes up about 6:30. 8hrs sleep is 10:30. That 4 hrs plus. Cmon girl. That IS life. Just wait until you have a family see how much YOU time you have.

[@omniixd]

i agree with Ken. She needs to learn to cope. Life is hard, no matter who it is

[@icantthinkofascreenname3064]

To quote Candace Owens, life is tough, get a helmet. Too many people have sheltered their kids to the point of never having experienced hardship or learned self discipline.

[@JohnsonCityTennesseeRealestate]

I challenge Ken to go sit in his truck at ramsey solutions from 7:30-9 and then work till 5 and sit in the parkinglot long enough untill you just get home at 6:15 for a week straight just to see how you feel You’re guy’s advice has been spot on for the past 3 years I’ve been listening. But this girl is right. That lifestyle does suck. I would atleast admit it and get her on a plan to where she finds a new career path outside the city or highly encourage her to plan out when she will be able to afford living in the city

[@leechburglights]

The sad part is that people apparently are not told this when they grow up. By watching some of these videos today, I get the impression people think they should be working from home, or that they should only have to work a 3 or 4 days a week to earn a living wage. Did parents and teachers not tell students this in the 2000s and 2010s? I grew up in the 90's and my parents prepared me for it. I knew that I would have to work from 7am till 6pm each day and expected to have a 1 hour commute. Sure it sucked I wasn't making over $25k per year, so I got a second job and worked another 25-30 hours a week to earn an extra $7k per year. That was all during my 20s to get me moving up in life.

[@KillerofGods]

Done it except I worked 60 hours weeks with only a day off. Now I switched jobs for a closer commute and work 65+hours a week and have morning and graveyard shifts every week.

[@HOLDXSTEEL]

@@KillerofGodspoor you

[@KillerofGods]

@@HOLDXSTEEL Not really, didn't want to sound like a pity party. It sucks but I'm saving up money to move out of this hellhole that is California. Gonna move somewhere small and quiet and barely make any money but at least I'll have a good sized chunk of a down payment on a house. It'll help keep expenses down so the low income won't be as big of a deal.

[@annorahharris5927]

Ken writes books and does speaking engagements and news spots in his free time. I’m sure he’d love that girl’s schedule. I would. She thinks that sucks try my attorney job where I leave 7:30am get home 7:30 pm plus work a few hours once I get home in the beings and work like 4 hours a day on the weekend. When people like her bitch it makes me furious, especially when they bitch about my paycheck and how they deserve more at their jobs/ want me to pay more taxes. You wanna make the big bucks, there’s a price 🤷‍♀️

[@ricardomains]

She’s complaining about her commute to work, but not about her job. She likes her work, but not the commute, which is completely understandable as the drive is draining. I hate my commute too.

[@dnah02]

That's one of the reasons I moved out of NYC 2 hrs or more on a train was lame

[@TCR2025]

Ken has no understanding of anything besides loving office culture

[@joesmith3590]

She literally thinks she should be able to walk to work. If you are unrealistic and childish everything is hard.

[@SnifferSock]

​@@joesmith3590why you lying? She never said that.

[@joesmith3590]

@@SnifferSock she literally says it would be different if I could walk to work. Like yeah sweetie it would be nice if money grew on trees also. Name checks out. Meanwhile her dad likely was gone from 5 am until 6 her entire life. lol can’t make this up.

[@Themoomabides]

She is totally right. 7:30am - 6:15pm with a wake up at 6am to get ready. So it’s a 12 hour day. For not enough money.

[@avullrich]

I think they made a mistake asking Ken. He had no empathy. I remember being shocked when I first got out of college. I was like I have to sit at a desk all day and look at four walls. I really hated it but over the years I have adjusted and am changing careers where I’ll get to move around more and communicate with others more. I hope she figures things out and is able to adjust until then!

[@timothywomac9254]

This reminds me of my last semester of college - when I was student teaching. It was definitely an adjustment.

[@alexecheverria4175]

No Ken is giving the reality of the situation. There much more people out there working actual physical labor work that still have to come home and feed there family that aren’t complaining on tik tok. I much rather prefer someone giving me the truth and actual advice than sympathy so I can continue feeling bad for myself. I swear this generation is so soft. We have it easy compared to how it was back then.

[@danielle1103]

You become institutionalized at your job.

[@jimbo4187]

This girl should definitely get married and be a stay at home mom. Not all women are built to do the 9-5 grind and clearly she’s not one of them. But millenials and genz girls have been so indoctrinated to not get married and go out and make their own money and this is the result. Many women don’t want to work full time and that’s ok if they wanna be a stay at home mom and take care of the kids and house.

[@elilily]

@@jimbo4187Bingo. Thank you for this comment. Dave Ramsey’s daughter has got a lot of balls to try to talk down about this girl. Her daddy has set her up for life. I’m sure daddy pays her very well and allows her to step away for other tasks all she wants. I’m sure by grades and academic achievement alone, another person is more qualified for her cush job. I’m sure her work life is fun and dynamic, as opposed to the TikTok girl. I’m so sick of girls/ women like Dave Ramsey’s daughter. They are clueless to the privilege they have.

[@Clover.Indi20]

I remember my first job out of college. It was late fall and i had the realization that I wasn't getting 2 weeks off for Christmas break.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Just have never worked jobs through high school. Realization started early for me. Holiday season was when the crap was worked out of me. Fortunately when I started my career I had 10 paid holidays and two week vacation with Dec 26 to New Years Eve off without pay.

[@WoodyJ98]

Auto manufacturing jobs for the win We get two weeks off for Christmas

[@cleliaparnell8743]

😅😅😅

[@monabiehl6213]

I agree, no Christmas break was a hard one for me. I worked on Christmas Eve many times. I have never worked on Christmas but I have worked every other holiday.

[@anndeecosita3586]

@@monabiehl6213I have worked every holiday at some point.

[@LM-ch8rh]

oh come on, ken!!! going into the office is DRAINING! getting home at 6:15pm, you're exhausted, who has the strength to workout, date, etc. she's not freaking out. she's just commiserating. give her a break.

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

You. Do. Not. Commiserate. Publically. Get it through your thick skull.

[@fark69]

You have 4 hours to workout and go on a date. As for cooking, prep on the weekends. Most people work more than 9-5, and we're all making it work...

[@paulstandaert5709]

Is getting home at 6:15pm more draining than getting up at 4:00am, leave the house around 5:00am. Arrive at work at 6:00am, put in my 8.5 hours, and at best, be home by 3:30pm? The drive was about 95 miles round trip. I was at the gas station every 3 days. 8:00pm SHARP is bed time, even when it is still broad daylight in May, June, July, and August. And that was only the day job. I did something very similar to this for 19 years. I also worked lots of weekends as well. So, maybe we should call a whaaambulance. But I am too unattractive to date, so I guess I don't have to worry about that.

[@jazzad]

There are way too many side sollicitations these days for a 9to5 to work properly. This poor girl is used to 4 hours of hobbies a day, 50+ text messages on the phone and daily chat with all her friends. You can do that in high school. As soon as you work or even do serious studying you need to cut off the crap and focus on what counts.

[@jjcali7334]

Nah...that little girl is weak af

[@aliciaohara8794]

I commuted 1.5 hrs/each way for about a year and i was miserable. I took a pay cut to have a 20 min commute and it was worth it!

[@BlankBlanks]

I took a pay cut to commute 4min and it really cut a massive strain on the mental and physical

[@buffaloben15golf88]

Especially with the gas prices nowadays 🙄

[@workinonit9562]

It is all about choices.

[@SuperPrincessNancy]

Just the savings in gas money must have been huge! The longest commute for work I had was about 30 mins. I was working 3-11 so I did miss the traffic both ways. No way could I deal with traffic every day!!

[@jimmyjay689]

​@@workinonit9562thank you...simple, but true

[@pyronixe]

Ken has a bad take. Let's say she gets home at 6:15 and takes a shower. This will take you to 6:45. Cooking a meal (or going back out to get takeout) and then eating will take you to ~7:30. If you go to bed at 9 or 10, this still only gives you 1.5-2.5 hours per night to work out, (get ready for) and go to a date, watch an hour of your favorite TV show, and relax. It isn't long. The grind is real. Especially if you are like me and do it all alone.

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

A shower takes 7 minutes, not 30.

[@eplugplay8409]

I did it for 4 hours where my commute one way was at least 1 hour and 30 minutes and some days 2 to 2 hour and 30 minutes. Some days I would get home at 8pm, take a quick 7-8 min shower, cook and eat something and watch one hour tv show and go to bed to wake up at 5am and repeat the process. Found a much better job at a Fortune 500 company since then for all my hard work and now remote 3 days a week and 2 days in office and only travel 45 min one way. Life isn’t always going to be that hard forever and working hard will get you there.

[@johnmccabe7708]

I work 12 hour shifts, alternating each week from day shift to night shift. My commute is about 50 min. This, I get up at 330 am or pm depending on the week, and don’t get home until 610 to 620. I still make time for my 5 year old and sometimes have to cook. So if I’m on dayshift, I might get 4 or 5 hours of sleep. I don’t see what she’s complaining about.

[@AlphaShadowSphere]

Ken has the best take. Also you're not entitled to a shower, an hour of your favorite TV show, time for a date, time with friends, etc. Back when I had a 45 minute commute I had to choose what I did in the evening. I drove straight to church, the board game store, or to a restaurant for a date. I worked out at work in a tini but functional gym. Life throws you lemons you make lemonade. I have a great commute and a wife now but I had to fight for everything I have. Nothing was handled to me like I am sure this girl is used to.

[@TheHappinessPursuitInc]

Most of us are up till midnight

[@avona14]

So glad Jade and Rachel chimed in here. It’s understandable that she is having a hard time adjusting. Commuting is hard to get use to at first. She’s not giving up. She will get more use to it or change to a work from home set up.

[@beanberg]

Especially a commute over an hour AFTER working a full day

[@thejuliasaro]

Oh she will definitely give up

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

It can be rough for anyone who lived on student loans and never worked through high school and college.

[@aaronblankenship6327]

It's literally 1/3 of a day. Still 16 hours in a day.

[@Mskyraelise]

I definitely feel for the girl. I just went back to school and I actually prefer the sporadic schedule with lots of gaps for freedom over being at work for the long block of 8-4pm. It seems like there is a lot of time after work but you're exhausted, probably moving slower, and have a lot less energy in the evening.

[@paulac1234]

These “experts” are out of touch. The 9-5 grind really does leave very little time for any personal life stuff between 6-10pm. I’m Gen X by the way and I am in the 8-4 group. Not complaining, but I do see her points here being valid. My husband and I don’t have kids by choice and we struggle to find where the evening time goes after work. It doesn’t leave much personal time between Mon-Fri to do much at all then the basics. It’s not only or always about strength vs weakness. It’s the unreasonable and unnecessary corporate work hours that people wish were shorter to enjoy our personal lives a little more than we do.

[@TrulyPurpleslife]

Exactly and the people in the comments are going in on her like I work 100 hours a week for the past 20 years get over it. And I’m like okay good for you do u want a cookie 😂 because nobody cares that u worked 100 hours a week nobody wants to be you 😂

[@paulac1234]

@@TrulyPurpleslifeexactly! We won’t be on our death bed wishing we put more time in at work lol 😂🤣

[@terricox3559]

Gotta love parents choosing to have kids then gatekeeping tiredness

[@RepentImmediately]

I'm pretty convinced people who choose to have kids just hate themselves and want to feel like they're doing something "noble"

[@jimmyjay689]

You got nothing to complain about....less mouths to feed, more time to work and rest

[@jimmyjay689]

​@@RepentImmediatelywe live for other people,not ourselves

[@bigmyke2008]

@@RepentImmediatelyweird way to tell everyone you’re a virgin

[@NoneYa-pg6dk]

@@RepentImmediately speak for what you don’t know. 🤔

[@ChrissyLove]

I feel her 100% - this is the rat race I ran for many years. I got out of it as soon as I could (by starting my own home-based business) and will never go back. The feeling she's having is that her time is not her own to do what she wants with. Losing time freedom, like you often have in a college setting, is DEVASTATING. It feels like a prison. Many people adjust and make the most of it which I highly respect. But that ain't me and honestly it doesn't have to be her ultimate fate either.

[@kathleenr8839]

What kind of business do you do? Wish I could start one so bad but I’m clueless!

[@schuylergeery-zink1923]

Yes! Same! I do think us ladies tend to favor flexibility over structure. I have a consulting biz Prairie Phoenix where I help clients with marketing (I get paid more per hour than I did as a staff attorney) and I write novels and have a band (play gigs a few times per month). I can work from home and meet with clients and I enjoy that varied environment - helps me take care of my Belgian Malinois and good transition to being a parent too when/if I’m ready.

[@mayso1104]

Thank you for articulating it so well!! It has been my complaint for the last 6 years. I really do feel like imprisoned. And many at times, I could be so much more productive at my job if I only worked 3 days out of the week. Like I could really fit it all in less time. And I’ve been a consistently rewarded high achieving and productive employee.

[@ChrissyLove]

@@mayso1104 Sounds like you would be fantastic at working for yourself!

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

i did the same damn thing. i work from home in data science. i was smart enough to get my employers to give me a month's work all at once. i complete that month's worth of work in two weeks, and then take the next two weeks off. working from home and having two weeks off has REVOLUTIONIZED my life. i am very aware of how lucky i am, and cannot wrap my mind around why so many people are ok with working a 9-to-5, for *5* out of 7 days per week.

[@budgiebirdy]

When I was starting out right after college, I got a job at a company that worked everyone like dogs, 10-12 hours Monday through Friday and almost every Saturday. It was constantly rush, rush, rush, work work work. I did that for 8 or 9 years. After giving birth to my first son and with another on the way, I just couldn't do it anymore. I was completely miserable. My 45 minute commute one way turned into an almost 3-hour daily process to get to and from home after picking up my son from my parent's house (they took care of him while I was at work). So three hours of my unpaid time, on top of the rat race, work-to-the-bone culture of the company I was working for. NEVER AGAIN!! I'm currently a SAHM and my husband works from home 4 out of 5 days, and his place of employment is only a 5 minute drive away on the day he goes in. Life is great, and when I go back to work I'm going to be much pickier and not work for some miserable company that thinks my whole life belongs to them.

[@leadnsteel1428]

Im single and dont even know where the days go anymore.

[@lisalister8002]

Most of us that work 9-5 is exhausted when we get home..

[@YouTh3r3]

And some people have to take the kids to after school activities right away

[@Tina-eb1hz]

Exactly, I don’t know what the hell they are talking about! By Thursday, I don’t know whether I’m coming or going😂 and I’m 43! This ish is exhausting for real, not saying that she should quit, I’m saying that her feelings are completely valid.

[@YouTh3r3]

We don't have any family in the country to support us. So for those single moms out there, they really need all of the support they can get out there.

[@lisalister8002]

Amen!! @@YouTh3r3

[@MrTaylorfenoglio]

Not me because Ive literally got the easiest job in history as a stay at home dad of 3 and I'm definitely blessed.

[@Caliabra]

I feel this it’s hard. The commute takes up valuable time. Also if you have to work over 8 hours. At some point you just get better at making dinner and scheduling in workouts and making a point to go to bed on time it’s an adjustment.Kind of annoyed at Ken - she is just having a bad day she’s not going to give up …we all go through this

[@kleindropper]

Only 40 years left to grind young lady! You go girl!

[@ChrisP-in8qr]

And people wonder why people say screw it and go homeless. American dream is just that... a dream

[@kleindropper]

@@ChrisP-in8qr Its got nothing to do with America. Men have been working until death for millions of years. Congrats to the ladies on just joining the party recently. Have fun!

[@RandomUserName92840]

whats the point of life?

[@lexi24425]

might as well just off myself

[@Kurtdog63]

My job STARTED at 6:30 a.m., I got off at 4 pm and cried all the way to my SECOND JOB the last TWENTY YEARS of my career(s). Retired at age 56. Life is good.

[@dog7881]

That sounds horrible

[@Bethelgal42]

I can feel this a little. In college, I worked the 11 to 7 shift and you do feel like you wake up get ready for work and then come home and get ready for bed. Then, I worked full time from 8 to 5. If you live in a colder climate area, there can be many winter months where it's cold and dark when you wake up and cold and dark when you get off work. You can make time for things if you want to but I can feel her thoughts a little.

[@Ben-bj1oz]

I think this complaint is completely valid. Majority of people can relate to this

[@WonderWomanInMichigan]

I do understand her. It is hard to fit in the things you want to get in on top of your job. Fitness, food prep, house cleaning, family, friendships , errands, grocery shopping, etc all before bed to get a good night sleep. You have to learn to schedule your life around work and have lists of to do's and spread that throughout the week to get it all in and you'll still miss some stuff.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Not hard at all. I did all of that with no issues.

[@OopThereItIs77777]

No it’s not lol I did ALL of that & more…then I had kids & sometimes I go DAYS without a shower.

[@RepentImmediately]

​@@OopThereItIs77777gross

[@WonderWomanInMichigan]

@@blackworldtraveler3711 same. I have no issues as well getting it done. I do understand her though. If she's not organized, it will be very difficult.

[@WonderWomanInMichigan]

@@OopThereItIs77777 true. Same for me. Days without a shower as well while having kids. 🤣 Now my kids are all grown. 💗

[@lauramcdonald5004]

She’s right. 9-5 is an awful block. It’s so much better to start earlier, and get out earlier. And I hate 1 hour lunches. Lunch doesn’t take an hour. It’s a huge waste of time. I’d much rather take a 30 minute lunch and get home 30 minutes earlier. 7-3:30 if given the choice is soooo much better.

[@jaquandrejones]

The whiney chick can wake up early and workout or do whatever in the morning with that time she isn't at work yet. We all have the same 24 hours. Make them work.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

All about choices. I knew my work hours/days,pay,paid holidays,vacations, and other benefits before I even started going to school for my career. It was part of my career research. My shifts were 7-3:30 or 3pm to 11:30pm. Even 11pm to 7:30am. We could also do 3-4 day 40hr weeks and up to around 90 days off without pay.(I took full advantage of this) Also have a 24/7 gym,walking trail,and 24/7 cafeteria on campus among other things. Part of the reason why we have so many home schooling families where I work.

[@ARBets23]

7-330 is how you get dark under eye circles and sappy eye bags

[@sugargirl991]

Yes! That's the school schedule. I worked for years in some type of education center. Transitioning to 8-5 with an hour lunch. M-F, has been difficult. Mostly for appointments and getting things done. The vet, the dentist, the doctor, the post office. I try to use my lunch break to run those errands, but there isn't always time. Thank Goodness I have such an understanding boss who allows us some flexibility for all that. But I always feel stressed about making those things work out.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

@@ARBets23 That must be your issue and bad genes if you look like that because of those hours.

[@LifeWithAlliDaily]

😅 lol. The way they both jumped in and yelled 'Noooooooo'... Tsk tsk Ken 😅😅😅😅 He forgot for a moment what it felt like to be a first time adult. 😆🙏🏾💜

[@fark69]

Idk, I'm in my 20s and my first job I commuted 1.5 hrs by train both ways, and I never felt this way. I was shocked to be making money right out of college, tbh, and it never occurred to me that I was working too long or my commute was too long, etc.

[@TonyCox1351]

@@fark69you were commuting for 3 hours every day and it never occurred to you “geez this commute sucks”??

[@joesmith3590]

@@TonyCox1351 no it is called gratitude that is what your grandparent had and helped them build the world.

[@TheJustReyes]

9-5 would be amazing. Electrician here and I leave in the dark and get home in the dark. Work hard play hard

[@voidfroze]

Ken is NOT thinking about this right. If she gets home at 6:15 and goes to the gym, that puts her at 7:15. Shower, now 7:30. Cooking dinner will put her at 8 or 8:30, and by the time she cleans up it’s past 9pm and she has been grinding all day with zero down time. That IS exhausting. Also she may have a job where she’s on her feet all day, or has to use up a ton of social energy, and she may need time to decompress when she gets home which puts her even further behind.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Ken is thinking about this right. No big deal. She’s just whining and late to the game. That’s what happens when you don’t work a job developing working habits while in high school through college and collect student loan money. I was already conditioned for that because I worked while going to high school and working 30-40 hours a week while in aerospace school,etc.. Eight hours a day was nothing once starting my career. Was also proactive and flexible with my career decisions,job locations,etc.. All about choices. She apparently chose the type of work environment she wanted.

[@c.s.7136]

Home at 430p. 2 boys in sports. 1-2 hr practice 2-3 times a week. Still find time for spouse and down time. Welcome to life.

[@goodolchris4173]

Then cut the gym out and start the evening at 6:15 PM, easy.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

@@goodolchris4173 Some just like to complain.

[@ayo_k32]

@@goodolchris4173Cutting gym out is a terrible suggestion. Working out is important for your health, prevents depression, and allows you to live a longer life.

[@RandomGuy-nk6vi]

It's her first job. She's going to feel this way. It's okay. We can have grace for her. We all felt this way.

[@serenityhackett7775]

Ok, hear me out. We do Ramsey “The View” style. Once a week get all the Ramsey Personalities together and have them discuss the weeks finance memes and TikTok’s and watch them argue amongst themselves.

[@chyrellemorris6924]

I would love that

[@april4657]

YES!!!

[@HayesChad]

Ken being the one who helps people find their purpose and ideal job, I expected more empathy and direction from him in this segment…

[@masteronii-chan3958]

He did have emphathy, what else do you want?

[@HayesChad]

like I said, more empathy and direction on how to find her purpose and ideal job@@masteronii-chan3958

[@scott5855]

Bless her heart...

[@samueljacques250]

Yes please a bit more empathy and direction from Ken, he's usually a bit better than this in my experience was a bit disappointing, then if you like welcome to life or something but he could it with a bit more compassion is all I'm going to say which I suspect I what she was looking for here, yes It can be a bit of a reality shock, just show a bit of compassion Ken come on man

[@Dan51320]

Agreed. Pretty tone deaf response from Ken. These 3 dont understand and just chalk it up to “adulthood”.

[@HaleysHomestead]

I see where she is coming from completely. My husband works 10 hour days every day but it’s 4am-2pm so he’s home by 2:30 and we have so much family time together. The 9-5 is very inconvenient for many people. Especially families.

[@danamarie8718]

She has just as much free time as your husband. She is just not using it wisely.

[@reese85]

@@danamarie8718yes and no. It’s completely different getting off at 1-2pm vs 5pm

[@workinprogress-ye5or]

My coworker turned down jobs paying 2.00 more an hour because she wouldn't give up working 7 or 730 to 330 or 4. That extra hour crushed her and made picking up kids and having energy to walk and exercise much harder. I get it. I just switched positions and don't work 7-3 anymore. It's varies but the days I'm out at 400 vs 5 is so much better. Traffic is lighter, I get home faster, I can stop at store and it's not busy and it's lighter out in winter which helps my mental state.

[@JKNat9004]

It's especially hard to make doctor appointments for yourself and other family members because some specialty doctors who've been in practice a long time have cushy hours because they can afford to do it that way.

[@danamarie8718]

@@JKNat9004 Many (if not most) employers provide PTO for full time 9-5 employees. Many states have laws for minimum PTO that can be used for medical appointments for the employee or family members.

[@Ag3ntStrength]

I agree with Rachel and Jade that she is feeling the schedule-shock from the first job. It was tough for me to adjust to it, and it still is tough. My previous job had 20-25 minute commute each way, was 8-4 for half the year, then 8-5 in tax season with an extra day Saturday - it SUCKS. Once you get past that initial shock of it, you learn your routines and you adapt. The 9-5 isn't for everyone, but it is for a lot of people.

[@gabrielle9335]

I’ve worked 9-5 M-F and I’ve done 9-5 M-Thursday. The 3 day weekend makes a HUGE Difference and you feel like you have SOO much more time. I 1000% agree there isn’t enough time getting home at 6pm M-F. You’re too tired to do anything after working all day.

[@workinonit9562]

Get up early and work out, cook on the weekend for the rest of the week.

[@miketheyunggod2534]

Do what?

[@ctflem]

I can partially sympathize. Especially, if you factor in she is young and this is her first real job in the real world. I spent 20 years in the military and after that worked a 9-5 job pre-covid. Post Covid I know primarily work from home now and won't go back to commuting back to the office everyday for anything. I remember thinking how time I used to waste in traffic going back and forth to the office and felt like I was wasting my life sitting in my car.

[@Fishouta]

One of the best Ramsey clips ever published. We need more of these with banter like this!

[@brycemorgan6708]

It sounds like Ken has never actually worked a job with long hours when that woman gets home at 6:15 and she cooks. It takes at least an hour to get the food ready let alone eat it then you have to clean the dishes then you have to shower by the time you’re done showering it’s going to be like 830 to 9 PM and you have to go to bed. You don’t even have time for a TV show that is if you have to be at work at seven in the morning

[@BikeHelmetMk2]

Why are you cooking every day? I cook once per week, typically Saturdays, then reheat my veggie/meat meals in the toaster oven until the next prep day. Towards the end of the week when I run low, I'll grab a can of soup and throw frozen veggies in and heat it up. I typically spend about 1.5 hours on Saturday and 15 minutes each day preparing (reheating) meals. Everything goes in the dishwasher, which gets run on Saturday after the big prep, or sooner if I run out of anything. That is, for anyone counting, 3 hours per week spent on preparing food and cleaning up,, another ~2 hours to eat it. 5 hours per week. If you don't like how much time it takes out of your day... be more efficient? I watch TV or KZbin during the actual eating part.

[@genxx2724]

I’m under the impression that she lives at home with her parents and mommy does the cooking. She needs to learn to meal prep. That’s what she should be watching on KZbin. Cook a pot of soup, chili, or spaghetti sauce every weekend, portion into individual servings, and freeze. Roast chicken, brisket, etc., portion into individual servings, and freeze. Roast vegetables and do the same. Soon the freezer will be stocked with a variety of convenient meals. Make five salads for lunches, put them in containers in the fridge. Line the inside of the containers with paper towel to absorb excess moisture and keep the salads fresh. Buy a bottle of dressing to keep at work, or portion containers. Every night add the protein of choice and a container of dressing and/or salsa, and take to work in the morning. Protein ideas: brisket, chicken, deli ham or turkey, grated cheese, feta cheese, canned whole beans, garbanzo beans. Make a Mexican, Italian, or middle eastern salad by switching up the proteins and dressing.

[@BikeHelmetMk2]

@@genxx2724 Good tips. My family has issues with oxalates, so don't do well on salads, but oven roasted veggies and high protein stuff (beans, peas, etc.) work great. With the higher protein, I very easily make it through a day with only two meals. Sometimes just one meal. "Intermittent fasting" is pretty natural on that diet with my body type. I just listen to my body and do what feels right, and stay away from addictive foods. (Some foods rewire your brain to need more of them. Most people know about Coffee, but sugar/carbs also fit in that camp, so minimizing them makes everything easier... otherwise your brain will be screaming at you, "I'm hungry! Feed me a sugar bagel!" part way through your day.)

[@markobasi359]

As someone that has been on a 3/12 schedule my entire career, 9-5 jobs seem like absolute HELL

[@aaronblankenship6327]

9-5 leaves 2/3s of a day free time every day

[@markobasi359]

@@aaronblankenship6327 yea but 3-12s leave 4 FULL days per week.

[@stephenshelton4267]

One solution is a 10 hour 4 day work schedule. That's what I have and it's wild how much easier life is. It's one fewer day to getup early, if you work on site it's one less day of driving to work and the odd 10 hour time frame means you're likely to miss peak rush hour on at least one leg of the trip. Plus this guarantees at least 1 day off during the business week which means you can make medical appointments, hit the post office, head to the bank, or interact with the part of the world that only works 9-5 without having to take time off. Sadly too many employers have that stubborn boomer mentality of making work like as unpleasant as possible.

[@workinonit9562]

Maybe you could start your own company to provide this type of work schedule for yourself and other people that think boomers are the problem with their work schedule.

[@stephenshelton4267]

@@workinonit9562 I have this type of work shedule. We don't wear ties either! **useless boomer gasps in horror**

[@Jo-vu1me]

@@workinonit9562oh shut up boomer 😒

[@oluwashinaomisanya7487]

What she’s saying that she’s dog tired. Not everyone get the privilege of working for a company where the boss is your bestie, and there is little to no stress. Also I believe it’s healthy to rant on SM cause some times you need others to see it from a view you may not know to exist, to helping you fix your situation.

[@BikeHelmetMk2]

A lot of people eat garbage food too, which can torpedo your energy levels. Spending an hour tackling that can add hours more of energy into your day. When I started prepping and cooking my own meals, every one of them loaded with veggies, meat, etc., I immediately noticed that I had more energy. My energy has been declining lately, but at peak I could do about 22 hours, sleep 4, do another 22 hours, then sleep about 9-10 and feel pretty refreshed overall. (enough to do a 12-14 hour day, no problem.) Doesn't fit a 9-5, but does fit a callout based services business. I can't imagine how impossible that would be if I was eating junkfood. It saps your energy and makes you miserable. The great taste isn't worth it. It robs you of hours of your life every day, and years of your lifespan. Probably also lacks the nutrients required for mental stability, which is what helps you persevere, learn, and interact with others - which is another possible snowball. If you interact better and learn better, you're probably also more likely to be promoted sooner, and get ahead in life in general.

[@danamarie8718]

Why in the world is she “dog tired”? She’s literally spending less than 1/3rd of her time per week working, including her commute. She has plenty of time to meet friends or a date after work for dinner, to work out in the morning, and she has weekends free.

[@workinprogress-ye5or]

@@danamarie8718 she might be depressed. It can sneak up on you. My daughter seemed to have a good job, etc and was always tired. She went on very low dose of medication, started to exercise more at home and feels better, not perfect but much better.

[@Sian660]

Anything new tires you out so much more than routine. She’ll be able to slot more and more into her life as she gets older.

[@Life.Love.Locs.]

​@@danamarie8718Maybe she's also using some of her free time to... sleep?

[@Anonyme67]

Couldn’t be more happier working fully remote. I don’t care about promotion or coworkers. Just peace and more time for my family. I am going to resume professional ambition when my youngest child is at least 8. Hi is 5 years old right now.

[@paulstandaert5709]

Just be careful, as my prediction is that these remote jobs are going to continually pay less and less as time goes by. They can hire someone from literally anywhere, including India.... Some places in the USA feel that $35,000/year is doing quite well.

[@Vandicoup]

God that is my ultimate dream too. I don't care about none of that crap either. They say to keep your work separate from personal and I couldn't agree MORE. I take that crap to HEART. One of these days I'll get full-time, remote work baby, one of these days!!

[@Life.Love.Locs.]

​@@paulstandaert5709You're right to a level but some companies are now shifting back to staff in the States/Western countries. Differences in working culture and practices do make a difference to the cohesion of staff and ways of working.

[@JasonGroom]

She obviously was not working in college. For me when i finished college it was fantastic to just work 40-50 hours of work. I was used to working 35 hours, going to class 12 hours, and working on class work another 20 hours a week.

[@danamarie8718]

I agree. I worked during college as well. When all I had to do was work, I felt like I had so much free time. And I was working about 60 hours a week and also traveling for work. I think she is lacking time management skills and thinks life is easy.

[@cc3822]

​@danamarie8718 , underrated comment. Also, I realized most women have no idea what men do for there families anymore. It's so hard but they deserve way more + men do way less.if you look at hours per married + hours per individual men work way more then the avarage women.

[@ambethk77]

This. Parents are actually not doing their children favors by letting them skate through college without working. It's such a false picture of what real life looks like. Her comment about not being able to see her friends is very telling. Kids who live on campus during college and don't work. Spend basically 24 hours a day with their friends and that just never happens afterward.

[@Life.Love.Locs.]

​@@danamarie8718Why did you have to work full-time and study full-time? In most places around the world, you don't have to work a full-time job to make ends meet as a full-time student. It's normalised in the States, but it's not normal to push your body to that extreme. It's actually very unhealthy. I don't think this is a time management problem, it's an extreme capitalism problem.

[@Life.Love.Locs.]

​@@ambethk77Most students around the world don't have to work full-time and study full-time simultaneously. That's actually an American norm.

[@RepentImmediately]

Ken, who prepares your meals and cleans your home?

[@wess8346]

Young lady...my first job out of college was a 9-5 working in a cubicle. After 3 weeks I came home and told my wife there is no way I can do this for the rest of my life. You will figure it out. I became an entrepreneur and have loved it.

[@ilai7893]

Lol if the TikToker was a guy and Dave was a panelist, and he called him weak, no one would bat an eye

[@joesmith3590]

If it was a man the woman would be all over him. Try to find a video of the woman supporting men like this 😂

[@joedudek4547]

I have been on both sides and working a 9-5 completely stinks. On the other hand being self employed not knowing when your getting paid next is very stressful

[@b_bogg]

I think it’s more meaning a “regular job” than specific times. Kinda like common sense

[@kathleencooney1518]

Yes. I was self employed my entire career ( hotel gift shops ) and I worked many hours. 60+ Every hour I could work & not pay someone else was worth it. I retired at 55.

[@mdesign872]

in sweden the normal work hours office is 8-5 . i get up at 4:30 - prepare breakfast and lunch, hit the gym by 5:45 - train for 45 mins - gets back home - shower, and get to work.

[@AimeePoppinBabies]

I remember here days but I sucked it up and filled my weekends. I worked crazy nights in the ER. I burnt out a few times but had no choice but to suck it up. Work hard until you don’t have to anymore. Golden rule!

[@kmassey6749]

I think she spoke to the hours in a typical work day. She said she liked her job. She's also saying why a 9-5 work day to do what could be done in 5 or 6 hours even. Folks are at work more than with family or enjoying other things in life. Why can't we work and really enjoy the time we all have on this rock is what I think she's speaking to. I think tiktok being the platform isn't the issue. Why are we so stuck in those hours is the underlying question.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

That’s why smart people settle into their career and plan before having a family or more kids. I didn’t start my career with debt. Heck one year after starting my career I was working overtime on weekdays and weekends by choice. When i declined from doing overtime I had my weekends and weekdays to do things. Activities with coworkers,hobbies, Portuguese classes,scuba classes,photography,sailing courses,watching tv,online gaming,company picnics,travel,fishing,home stuff,relaxing, etc.. Was also flying to Hawaii from Oklahoma for 3-4 day weekends and going to places like Miami,San Francisco,New York,etc. for site seeing and lunch on Saturdays. People chose to get into debt. Become slave to job and working more. Afraid to move elsewhere for better life,less traffic, more affordable area,etc.. Those are the career,work conditions,locations,and hours she chose and gotten in student loan debt for.

[@Josherrificly]

I hope Ken reads all these comments. I'm glad these young people are challenging the corporate world. I hope they change things. My Mom worked 6a-7pm (with commute) and that's no kind of life.

[@linuxsurfer2002]

Even as Gen-x, I can relate to the shock of that first full-time gig - from the working hours and the commute, to having to work all summer instead of being outside, to losing so much of my paycheck to taxes and deductions. But it's part of becoming a working adult, your life changes dramatically.

[@alanj9978]

I tried being self-employed for a few years after high school. Was fun but didn't pay much. Getting a full-time job was honestly a relief. Was no 9-5 either back then, lots of 14 hour days learning new stuff and getting the job done.

[@strkravinmad]

I feel her and I've been in the work force for many years! She is just venting because she's new to the adult world, which is completely understandable. My day is about as long as hers, but family obligations and running errands mean I don't get to sit down and relax until anywhere between 8pm and 930pm. It's exhausting!Ken is not taking into account how important rest really is. If he is mentally "stronger" then so be it, but everybody is not the same.

[@scottgiles3053]

I agree with Ken. I leave home at 6:15 every day. My commute is 40 minutes on the train and a 20 minute walk to work. I get home around 5:00 if there are no train delays. Spending 11 hours away from home every day is hard, but it's just how life is for most people.

[@spencjon4822]

7am-6:15 is over 11 hours... Over 3 hours of commute is the issue. She's drained because the commute sucks. That doesn't make someone weak - that is someone who realizes how stupid in-office jobs with huge commutes are.

[@zunedog31]

Ken constantly trying to out-boomer Dave

[@genxx2724]

Good. People need to learn some sense.

[@joesmith3590]

500m net worth Dave a boomer who built the world trying to to tell gen z how to be is the point of the show. You guys want the show to lie to you because you are used to it from watching TikTok your whole life and lacking fathers

[@ChrisP-in8qr]

​@genxx2724 the boomers caused this

[@Gumby6583]

@@genxx2724sense that?

[@HecticGlenn]

I remember feeling like this starting my first job, nothing wrong or unusual about it she's just telling it as it is. Part of adult life you go through.

[@zunedog31]

Exactly. Ken acting like a tool per usual.

[@RunsWithGinger]

Before you get broken down by the working world and how much it sucks

[@g111792]

Not to mention "9-5" doesn't actually exist anymore. I don't know anyone who isn't 8-6 minimum. The only people I know leaving at 5 are the ones who come in at 6am.

[@kibzzinho2240]

3 months in...after the learning curve at work is starting to flatten, she won't feel as spent or overwhelmed.

[@HecticGlenn]

@@kibzzinho2240 exactly, you build stamina, you head to a restaurant with friends on the way home from work, you chat to people in the week and arrange dates Friday / Saturday evening. Then as time goes by your life changes and you have the skills to adjust and if you've done well, get some perks on your terms

[@yaserchow]

Ok - I can relate to this woman's struggle soooo much. My first year working was the hardest of my life. I lived in SF and commuted to silicon valley everyday, so I did the reverse city commute. It was traffic and headache and straight up depression. I finally caved and move to Silicon Valley which was absolutely boring, but it gave me the time to hit the gym, spend time with friends, and enjoy my life. Her pain is very real, she should move closer to work or get a new job. Your mental health is worth protecting.

[@Astra_Vulpes]

I really think Ken kinda missed the mark here... I mean, I do understand, these days there IS a lot of weakness and complaining. But this girl, like they said, is just getting out in the world. I've felt the same way. I still struggle, and i dont even work a 9-5. Transitions are hard, learning how to adult is hard. Its scary and stressful and I think she's coming to terms with becoming an adult. Me, I have people to go to, family, friends who I can go to with those struggles and fears and complaints. She chose to go to tiktok. I dont think shes wrong for expressing how shes struggling if she has a community. But.... I do agree, too many people live their lives chronically online. Ken's advice near the end was fair... But I do think they're maybe a bit harsh on young ones stepping out into the world for the first time. To me at least, she sounded scared and unsure HOW she was going to have time. But, I mean I dont here her saying she's going to give up. Just my two cents, from a girl around her age experiencing some of the same things... I just dont talk about it all online to thousands of people xD

[@gmarie3053]

Funnily enough I follow this girl (Brielle) and I resonate with her feeling. I spend 8am-7am at work and I’m drained. Weekends are spent keeping up with the house. It’s not enjoyable. Good for her for speaking out. City life is draining but I’m still grateful 🙏

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Seems she had it cushy living off parents and student loans until career started. Students who work through high school,trade school,and college and don’t live on student loans have no issue working eight hours or more when career starts. Some of us are used to working and the ultimate daily commuting jumping from home to school to work like it’s groundhogs day. It was during full time work and school when I had no life and around five hours of sleep daily. Starting my career fresh with eight hour workdays and weekends off was a wonderful thing.

[@TonyCox1351]

Complaining about work is practically an American pastime. As I write this there are a million men getting off work at their construction site so they can go to the bar and complain about how stupid their boss is. I think people are mostly mad because it’s a young girl on tik tok.

[@Astra_Vulpes]

@@blackworldtraveler3711 I mean i guess you can say 'cushy life', but up until I turned 18 I was doing the same, living off my parents and had no debt, because I was a kid. They pushed me to get a job when I turned 16, and luckily for me, helped ease me into the work force instead of me having to be thrown in head first. And even then, even still living with them and having their aid in some things, I got very overwhelmed my first few months when I picked up my first full time job. It was scary and exhausting and I had bills to pay. Im just glad I didnt have parents on either end of the spectrum- Some will never push their child, never force them to pay for their own stuff and never push them to move out into the world. And others will give extremely tough love, and refuse to offer any guidance aside from "welcome to life, get used to it or get trampled." I really think shes just in that stage of transition, which can be very intimidating and hard to manage. I dont think her complaints or struggles are the problem, the bigger thing is the fact she (most likely) feels the need to run to Tiktok to talk about it. I had friends and family to go to when I was struggling just like this, and she goes to Tiktok... I feel they should have adressed that more instead of talking about her being "a weak minded girl."

[@Astra_Vulpes]

@@TonyCox1351 And the older generation/other people who share that mindset of "Well I had to work till my skin fell off 4 jobs 90hrs a week, I was lucky if i got a shower and 3 hours of sleep when i was your age just to survive!!" Like... I dont think that should be something we brag about, there is something to be said about having a tough attitude and not letting the world shake you, but I mean lets face it, the world isn't easy. And all the people bragging about how difficult their life is, trying to knock down a young girl who is just getting a start in life is not a helpful attitude that's going to lead anyone to being able to handle it imo

[@t206kid]

For many years I worked nights, weekends, holidays, (from really 2006 through 2020). I now work 9 to 5, but it really isnt 9 to 5, its more 7:45am to 6pm. There are perks to "9 to 5" but it does suck

[@dnah02]

Yeah unless you live within 35 minutes of the office

[@jrmiami4035]

9-5 keeps me outta trouble and not spending money lol

[@eplugplay8409]

It actually makes me spend more money, gas for commute, I always pack my lunch but once in a while when I didn’t have time in the morning to pack I’d buy food.

[@roar6047]

The switch from school to working full time is a big adjustment. My first job was 1.5 hour commute. It was pretty awful. I quit that one pretty quickly. Switched to jobs after that that were either fully remote or hybrid and the commute was under 45 mins. A long commute is a killer. My days from home are my favorite days. so much more flexibility.

[@sonokoful]

I work from home 9-5 and I still feel her pain. It’s not about time, it’s about the realization of cycle of life that doesn’t end until you retired.

[@TerryOnDemand]

I must admit, when I got my 1st job at 15 years old --I was SHOCKED!! I thought you received a break from work in the Summers (like school)😂

[@alittlepieceofearth]

She has to be on the train by 7:15. That means she is probably getting up around 5. That means if she wants 8 hours of sleep she has to be in bed by 9. By the time she gets home it's after 6. She doesn't have 3 hours to do dinner, shower, etc. I feel her.

[@drcatrinaking]

If it takes 2 hours and 15 minutes to get to the train, something is wrong. I'm a morning meanderer, and I can usually get out the door within an hour of waking, 45 minutes on a good day - and that's including the shower! My ex was in the military and it took him less than 10 minutes. 2 hours is BANANAS.

[@janapalmer8370]

Become a nurse lol. 3 12s every week & 4 days off, unless you want OT

[@MegaGamer1006]

Everybody has this moment when they're thrust into the workplace, but the team should have focused more on how sad it is that kids are nowadays conditioned to put their entire lives online and on TikTok. That's the problem here, not the fact that she feels this way. She will eventually adjust as we all do.

[@captbrainbucket9390]

They did somewhat touch on that at the end of the video. However I agree. Social media should not be the place you run to when you have a problem in your life.

[@chacewhiteman]

@@captbrainbucket9390yeah it gets a lot of people my age (18) but they all seem to surround themselves with the same kind of people and all my friends go to work every day or college and find it funny when they say “i dont have time” when they get their first job

[@Vandicoup]

On the flip side, posting to social media at times can offer some benefits as it gives you several different views from so many others that you may not have ever thought about to begin with and that could aid in you further adjusting to your new life or better yet finding a better way to live life, as a result.

[@Vandicoup]

It's not the 9-5 schedule. She said she has to get on the train at 7:30, which means she likely has to be out the door at 7, so up at 6:30 AM. She gets home close to 6:30. Has to be getting ready for bed by 10 - down to 3.5 hours. Spend 30 minutes eating, 30 minutes shower and post shower. You've got other random crap you have to do most nights for twenty, thirty minutes (dishwasher, washing clothes, etc). She's down to two, maybe two and a half hours max of free time, not four. It's not enough to go out and do anything with people or even meet people, it means you're socially dead Monday to Thursday unless you cut down on sleep and feel like crap at work and perform poorly. You're also mentally tired after work and don't want to do anything - you can force yourself to exercise, but it feels awful, not good, as you want to sit and not move after that terrible commute. It's a world of difference than having a true 6-7 or so hours most people get on a 9-5. It sucks, don't know how anyone puts up with it. It's why I'd absolutely never commute that far.

[@Vandicoup]

Nah, she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to. Where there's a will, there's a way. There's always options, even in the worst of situations. One solution is a 10 hour 4 day work schedule. That's what I have and it's wild how much easier life is. It's one fewer day to getup early, if you work on site it's one less day of driving to work and the odd 10 hour time frame means you're likely to miss peak rush hour on at least one leg of the trip. Plus this guarantees at least 1 day off during the business week which means you can make medical appointments, hit the post office, head to the bank, or interact with the part of the world that only works 9-5 without having to take time off. Sadly too many employers have that stubborn boomer mentality of making work life as unpleasant as possible.

[@dadbodkiller3174]

Yes, Ken Coleman. The kids are weak. My first job was from 7:30-4:30, then I drive down the road to a soft money job where I worked another 4-6 hours and worked on the weekend. A short 10 years later I work from home making 6 figures. Hard work pays off and it’s easier even you’re 22.

Don't be a working ant. Plan your escape!

[@affordableliving2756]

She also will need to factor in time for things like doing a shop for groceries. I try to get 9 hours sleep a night so I can be as productive as possible at work/ be my best self. This requires trying to get settled for the night about an hour before bed time. So to be up at 6.30 to get the train would mean, starting to get ready for bed at 8.30pm. Which to me would mean getting less than 2 hours when I get in to do things like make food, tidy the house, catch up on personal correspondence etc, take the dog for a walk.

[@christinehopping]

Agree with Ken!! Coping skills is all about appreciating every moment in life including your job. I wake up at 3 in the morning on the train to get to work at 5:30. It's not a big deal. Having a job is a blessing.

[@breestevensplanalifeyoulov4203]

'What's she's really saying is she's weak' Brutal Ken 😂

[@bryceolsen3527]

I am in a similar boat. I sleep 9.5 hours every night and that's what my body needs. I wake up at 5:30, leave for work at 6:30, go to jiu jitsu IMMEDIATELY after work, get home at 7:30, shower and go to sleep at 8. I have no time for friends unless I don't go to jiu jitsu. Thank God I'm moving to a 4 day work week and eventually going part time dental assisting and full time real estate agent bc this whole 7:30 to 5 job every day is rough.

[@Kyumilli]

i actually hate 9-5 lol.. i hate commuting with everyone else in the city. traffic so bad where i live. I was working 5am-1:30pm before it was great. early no traffic and come home by 2:30pm. still have tons of time in afternoon to do whatever. I slept around 8-9pm but it was not bad lol... I also worked 4x10HR shifts and it was also great. 3 day weekends.

[@aqm8470]

Sounds horrendous

[@amieross4625]

I have been working 4-1230 for the last 7 years I feel like I have more time to get things done plus I have an hr commute to my job.

[@Kyumilli]

@@amieross4625 Nice! I just started my new job a month ago and I do 3-11pm. At first i didnt like it but then after 5pm everyone goes home and i work alone..its so chill and nobody bothers me haha...However if the opportunity is there in the future, I would prefer early morning over evening.

[@maeg.9123]

its really about the sun. its been gloomy were i live on top of the sun rising and setting earlier. The sun came through the clouds one day and my mood shifted completely. I was so much more productive and satisfied. I thinking being up before the sun and home after it sets truly can obliterate your energy.

[@crashtestdummy1972]

I get both sides of this. 1st, you need time management for a 9-5 and 2nd, even with time management, sometimes you can't do all the stuff you need to do in a day. I wish employers offered 4 day work weeks and 10hr schedules. Having an extra day off makes a world of difference in getting things done around the house, errands and for life in general.

[@musicman7297]

Strange, how older generations did it for years .😂😂😂😂😂😂 CRY ME A RIVER. You would be crying the first day.... " oh ,my day is too long " . 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Try working 10 hour days all week and work on most Saturdays too .

[@crashtestdummy1972]

@musicman7297 They also thought smoking cigarettes was good for you too. So please take your "i work 2 hrs a day in my moms basement making beats" self outta here before you make yourself look stupid.

[@musicman7297]

@@crashtestdummy1972 Hi ,NOT SO BRIGHT... I'm retired, have fun working. LOL 😂 PS. your comment alone makes you look ... NOT TOO BRIGHT.

[@crashtestdummy1972]

@musicman7297 i love my work, i don't need to slave away working 10+hrs a day every day like you did. That shows how bright you are having to work like a slave for decades. I'll be retired by my late 40s because i can actually work SMART. Good luck with your retirement. I hope you don't fall apart from abusing your body so aggressively for decades! I'll give you this, you should have a strong work ethic, which apparently both of us have, but needing to abuse your body until it falls apart? Nah, im good.

[@zaik1143]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@musicman7297Are you mentally ill? Why do you write like that? You sound like a middle schooler.

[@jeniferhaggy-robbins8353]

I have always worked an 8hr a day job and I hate 9-5. I also feel like I don’t have time to do things. I don’t feel that way with a 7-3 shift. I get what she’s saying. I’m tired and have no time. 😂

[@JKNat9004]

Especially in the Spring and Summer, 7 am -3:30 pm is where it's at!! 💯

[@monicavandeventer5429]

Now imagine if she was a stay at home wife and mother. I’m living it now and this job is NEVER ending. I’m on my first 15 minute break right now. Been up since 5 AM and it’s currently 2:30 PM. 😂😅

[@RepentImmediately]

Most women in her generation are gonna avoid marriage and motherhood.

[@TheCollector501]

I can understand her and she hits everything correctly. I use to work from 9am - 6pm. I’d have to get up at 6:30am to get ready and have enough time to beat traffic. After I got off at 6pm, I wouldn’t get home until 7:30 or 8am because of traffic. Super drained from work and traffic that all I did when I got home was get ready for bed. Now I work from home and I have so much time for myself. Ken, I’m curious to know if you had similar schedules and commutes.

[@321tylaw]

I’m in the process of switching jobs but I was working an 8am-5pm. I was waking up at 5am and catching the train at 6:20 to i wouldn’t get home until 6:45. It’s hell but I would push my sleep schedule away and i proceeded to do things after work at the expense of being exhausted. That endless loop is the worst I feel for her

[@unclebubs]

"You can cry all the way to the bank." This is what my old boss would say as I was doing 12 hour shifts. I paid my 40 grand in debt in 2 years doing that. There's other jobs that suck.

[@benplummer8866]

I started landscaping right out of high school at 18yr old on the clock at 5a.m and lucky if home by 9:30 p.m. I'm 43yr old now and still doing it 7 days a week on a gun. Welcome to adulting.

[@BikeHelmetMk2]

Hehe, computer tech here. Sometimes it's just busy. Not every day or every week, but when things pile up, I occasionally do a 10-4... both in the AM. (That's 18 hours for anyone that can't math.) Non-physical job, so as long as your keyboard and mouse keep working, and you have a good supply of calories, you keep going... 30 minute break in the middle for a meal.

[@blakegreen3597]

Isn't that your choice?

[@BikeHelmetMk2]

@@blakegreen3597 Sure. Sink or swim. If you fall in a lake, you can choose to swim out, or do nothing and drown. It's definitely your choice. Some of us decide that we're going to become Olympic athletes, but only for a few years - then we become sane again.

[@user-qk2lo9iy4r]

who's taking care of the kids?

[@iddddaduncan]

What do you do for fun? that schedule seems like a sentence not a job.

[@annetawney2408]

I had the opposite reaction when I got my first 9-5. I was doing so much in college, in the evenings and early mornings and all throughout the day. I got home from work about 5pm and had the whole evening and I had no idea what to do with all my time.

[@andreia.inacio]

Same! I thought the same Eheh

[@littlefamily1093]

I remember my first real job after college, and I wasn't sure what to do with my extra time, lol. I had always worked 2-3 jobs while being a full-time student and very active in student organizations. 😂 girl!!! You have like 4-5 hours to do whatever you want at night! I know I worked more than most, and that's why I have no student loans. Work for the life you want.

[@edwardlovrr]

My job is 3 minutes away I am either working from home or working near by, that's it. Commuting is dreadful. I feel for this girl. I also have friends who work 4 day work weeks or work from home and their quality of life have drastically improved they are in amazing shape, have time to actually raise a family and not depend on outsiders to raise their kids. Call me out of touch and selfish but I do not want to wait till over 60 to live my life. I want to live my life while working a job that does not drain me.

[@adrianmechelle3784]

"She's weak" Good gracious. I quit my first job out of college on the first day for the same reason. I knew in my heart I didn't want to work a 9-5, and there's nothing wrong with that. Not wanting to work 9-5 doesn't mean "I don't want to work". Maybe just maybe life wasn't meant to be consumed in the rush hour commute to the city, 9-5 schedule, and then sitting in traffic coming home everyday and staying up late to regain some kind of independence over your life. Anyway, I've worked all kind of jobs over the course of my life and most recently left a 9-5 (after paying off all student loan debt) to work for myself and it has been the biggest blessing ever. She will figure it out if thats what she wants to do. I would also caution the older generation against attacking the younger. I don't think its in good taste. I don't believe in attacking other generations. We could benefit so much more through understanding.

[@amitchawla5124]

We all have our struggles. She is not special to feel tired and commute long distances. She is just new to it and hasn't adjusted

[@imveryhungry112]

Unfortunately, everyone has to do this. That's why there's so much traffic driving to work millions of cars on the road. Because everyone else is having to do the same thing. Except for hunter biden

[@joesmith3590]

Sound like a broke single woman who is clueless. Listening to you is how she didn’t realize she would have to commute (duh) and should have just got married.

[@musicman7297]

LOL 😂, I'll attack the cellphone, free - loading.... it's all about me ... generations. LOL 😂, nothing but a bunch of spoiled children who are adults . I'm laughing to my grave watching America become a Third World Country.

[@BRY__BRY]

I don't think it's a weak person at all. Shifts like that kinda suck.. You get into work kinda late into the day so in the morning you have an extra useless hour and then by the time you're off you have such little time to do laundry, cook, eat and get all your side hustles done. This is where living with a partner can be amazing.

[@robertalernet2199]

She found out there is NO SUMMER VACATION.

[@seanlive6975]

Move to Europe, 6 weeks vacation is normal here.

[@aolvaar8792]

@@seanlive6975 Had an employer that had 10 weeks paid vacation + 5 FREE round trip plane tickets. five-12-hour shifts and 8 weeks on, 2 weeks off,.

[@CryptoTVOfficial]

Uh hello bud… it’s simple math. Get home at 6pm after commute, cook dinner done by 7pm shower 7/7:30pm watch tv for an hour 8:30. Go to bed 8:45/9pm. Wake up 5am (8hrs of sleep) go to gym by 6am get home 7am get ready commute to work to get in by 8:30 rinse repeat

[@Sail562]

Different for me. I had 3 part time jobs in high school. Cleaned toilets, delivered newspapers, brought in carts for a grocery store. Shit jobs. Never wanted to do this for a living. After college, working 9-5 was a blessing.

[@jakemarsee7864]

Ken Coleman is so detached from reality it’s insane

[@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303]

He does not have a degree, Ramsey just hired him off the road.

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

The number of Americans in touch with reality is exactly zero. Reality voted America out.

[@bigshotadventur18]

He is Ramsey puppet

[@paulstandaert5709]

I've worked this kind of schedule for over 25 years now. Its just the way the world works.

[@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303]

@@paulstandaert5709 But is it the right thing that employers should be doing? That is the question. I think out of all options that COULD HAVE been, this is the best option. It was created by Ford and backed by the government (at least the 8 hour shift was). Now the whole 9-5, it never made sense to me because unless you are paid for a 30 minute lunch, you would be working 9-5:30. I work in a state government job and I have to work 7.5 hours, 8 to 4:30 (with an hour lunch or the option of taking 30 minute lunch instead, unpaid). So I guess technically, if I were able to move my shift to 9, I would see a 9 to 5 p.m. job.

[@mariorta5017]

I been working since 16 years old. From school to work and home. Then, from work to college, to home, to work and repeat. Now, get up at 5, workout, take the dogs, the chickens , breakfast, go to work, come home, do quotes, do designs, dinner, go to be bed and repeat. Just wait until you work so hard all year and today you get a call from CPA for a meeting of how much more IRS wants from you. Plus January is coming and I have to pay property taxes and get ready for the 2024 season and you are not even done with 2023. Welcome to adult life. 😂

[@Officialsearch21]

Yeah I feel that she’s right. We shouldn’t be working past 4:00 pm. I swear when I worked as an accountant I was done by 3:30 PM. I had to stay to 6:00 pm to please my boss.

[@DillonTurner395]

Have to also factor in cleaning, washing cloths, grocery shopping, stopping to get gas when most of the time theres a line. She is right. Theres no living out here, just surviving.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

I called it living life. No big deal. Did all of that You can add cooking and online gaming in my case. Eight hours a day. Had weekends off and home by 3;30pm. All the OT I want by choice. I even took classes for Portuguese,sailing,and photography among other activities like working out in gym and travel. Two weeks vacation up to six weeks in ten years. Started taking off extra weeks without pay. Seems bad planning in her case. She should have known all of this beforehand. I applied planning and due diligence to my career. Chose Oklahoma instead of California and the Space Coast.

[@connordavis2345]

And imagine throughout all of human history where there were no grocery stores, no technology, no AC, no phones, lol. You're living the highest standard of living anyone ever has had and you're still complaining.

[@JohnJohnson-kg4ek]

​@@connordavis2345 have you ever considered that we can make our standard of living even better?

[@NM-ok9wb]

I work an 8-4, 10-15 min commute. If I wake up at 6, I can have time to work out, get ready and be out the door by 7:30-7:45am. I get home 4:30pm, maybe 5-6pm if I stop by the store or have an appointment. In this schedule, I need to be in bed by 10:30pm so I can be asleep by 11 and actually hit my 7 hours. That leaves me ~5 hours. I can read one book in 4 hours. I can study something and read half a book for 2 hours each. I can hang out with friends for a few hours, and then either read or study. If I have kids, that all goes out the window at least until the weekend maybe. 5 hours is nice but its honestly not enough time. You have time for one hobby, maybe two. Three if you dont care about working out or taking care of yourself. Idk about guys, but I like to take care of my skin and hair after I shower and look presentable in the mornings for work. It can easily take 30 mins, even more if a woman really goes all out, with nails and skin/hair routine. And if youre a woman who does all that and has hobbies OTHER THAN scrolling social media, you have to pick and choose what you want to do because there's literally not enough time. And even if I enjoy my hobbies, sometimes I just wanna stop moving, do nothing and just exist because trying to fit all that stuff in my free time starts to feel like a hassle and kills my enjoyment.

[@i2harry]

I totally get her, even getting home at 6:15, you barely have energy to shower, you want to eat but also are ready to crush in bed. Like your brain stopped working. You can sit at the door way and just too tired to move into your bed. 😢. It sucks.