TherapSID MIDI Synth Exploration - With 6581 & 8580 SID Chips and Polyend Tracker

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[@pauljackson6168]

Once again combining the nostalgic music production from the past with the present. Love it!

[@bitoxic]

This was a very interesting video! ❤

[@RacerX-]

Amazing stuff there. Thanks for showing this I didn't know it existed.

[@LudOverdrive]

I'm also exploring the therapsid/PT setup, with midi CCs you can switch waveforms to noise to do the bass/drum trick on a single track, not as efficient as sid files but there are some things to try :)

[@MsMadLemon]

Sweet! I need to start messing around with CCs more, i'm quite new to them Thanks for the tip 🙂

[@BloodRayneUK]

Hiya Maddi ☺️ and that new unit looks and sounds amazing! I bet you and Rich have been having a blast since it arrived and the creative possibilities just keep getting better and better. Looks like a well thought out and nicely constructed system and l would be in heaven with that many dials to turn lol 😂 I do love seeing you in your element with all the creative things you do and it comes across so well in your videos, very inspiring. All the best to you, Rich, Mr Neelix and everyone there. Have a great weekend ☺️👍🏼

[@MsMadLemon]

Hey Jason! Haha I was definitely in my element in this one, especially when i'm close to getting my album done, then this turns up, I gotta include it also! 😀 Lol a lot of dials to turn, notice i'm very careful of the terminology 🤣or i'd get teased from certain friends Lol! i'm glad you enjoyed the video Jason, I hope yourself and Fi will have a great weekend 🙂

[@delscoville]

Man... I'm still waiting for mine! I'll be using the CV/GATE and LFO jacks to connect it to my Pro 3 SE.

[@JamesPearson]

Such a brilliant device, it’s definitely unlocked the SID chips for you, very cool. I like the track you put together to test it out. Great video, I love your style of exploring your new tools and toys :)

[@MsMadLemon]

i am in my element when it comes to exploring devices like this! I'm glad you liked my track, I wanna expand on it and include it on my album, make it be the first SID Track i've done. Thank you James 🙂

[@ChrisCebelenski]

Looks like a nice unit for exploring the SID sound! I'm sure you will get great use of it. I've always liked the SID for bass sounds, as the filter is a bit unconventional compared to most dedicated synths. Never been a fan of the "wide open" filter sound of the SID, as it's too buzzy for my tastes and the range of filter from wide-open to closed is hard to control. But there's some nice sounds still left in it, and the ability to blend two of them into different modes opens up a set of new possibilities I think that make it useful even today - it's always been a nice "retro" sound, but new applications maybe for more modern music making. I know that's not your focus, but TherapSID has certainly tried to make it more flexible than just chiptunes and retro SID trills, which appeals I hope to a wider audience. Having the hands-on controls is a great idea too, and is nicely appealing.

[@ThomaniacsRetrogamingZone]

That's some really cool device!

[@kaitlyn__L]

Commenting midway through the video to say: noodling about on the keyboard then jump cut to the next day is very accurate to how synths affect time for the user 😅

[@bilonggrisimmeri]

Great video and intriguing tattoos! Elektron SID Station was one of my first pieces of gear, and still works. Running it through Sherman Filterbank sounds wicked, and should definitely be tried by everyone into Chip aesthetic.

[@UberSynth]

Oh my gosh my kind of woman 😮

[@duncanwoodward6831]

That's a lovely bit of kit ...... everyone needs some SID tunes in their life.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

I remeber the time when the Elektron SIDstation was more or less the only hardware SID synth out there that eventually became a highly sought after expensive piece of gear because of its low quantities and those who had it would not really wanna part from it again. I wonder how well the SwinSID works with this?

[@PhillyBoyRoy]

I have two SwinSID Ultimates in mine, mk2 Works just fine, makes a little beep when then channel is changed though, and is too big for the case. The mk3 version fits, as well as the fpga sid

[@kaitlyn__L]

Oh wow, I’m pleasantly surprised the voice change commands still worked over MIDI! That means you could use the dual-SID compatible chiptune trackers on your modern computer to program files if you wanted, too. I wasn’t sure if that would work considering the voice allocation limitations to the paraphony you discussed, but that means the Polyend should be able to switch waveforms too - I’m pretty sure it can send MIDI SYSEX, I think I’ve seen other people do that! That makes me think I should consider using waveform change more often on my hardware synths over MIDI too. I’d need to program the SYSEX I think but they all support it. I got a little confused in the discussion about sequencers, because trackers are the only kind of sequencer I understand! But I totally feel the same about piano roll sequencers. Trackers are a lot closer to the sheet music I grew up with, conceptually not visually. You say “play a D4, and add this effect” or “now play an A4, and slide to it” in both. Both are pretty loose about time, that being something you specify later. Piano roll is so fiddly and specific about horizontal placement and doesn’t communicate a ton of other important stuff. Also using a pencil case for all your dongles and adapters is SUCH a good idea. I recently got a nice pencil case to hold just a couple pens and pencils I didn’t want rattling around, but hadn’t considered doing the same for my adapters - which are also rattling around! I’d seen other people use a zip lock bag but that just didn’t feel right to me. What a great idea!!

[@hurricanewinzz]

Amazing c64 music production

[@EmilioAriasMusic]

I was cleaning my Commodore 64 today and thought if someone by now created a synth let’s you use just the chips from the commodore .. 1 hour later found this video 🙌🏻 thanks. Also the music is top!

[@trulybtd5396]

there are many, so many that people have had to start making replacement SIDs.

[@Zontar82]

Nice musical skills!

[@MsMadLemon]

Thank you!

[@GurtTarctor]

I have the MEGAfm Mk.1 synth by Twisted Electrons which uses two Yamaha FM chips used in the Sega Genesis/Megadrive, absolutely love the sound of it. Alex is great for putting out really good firmware updates for these things, definitely worth keeping an eye on the downloads page.

[@MsMadLemon]

I bet that sounds amazing! I saw the other products and did notice the MEGAfm, wishing I could give it a try also. Thanks, i'll definitely be keeping an eye out on the downloads page for any updates.

[@GurtTarctor]

@@MsMadLemon Limbic Bits has some great sound demos of it, the Mk1 anyway. The Mk2 version comes with a later version of Genesis chips which sound cleaner and has a different character, and uses sockets so the chips can be swapped if desired though I don't know if there's much choice out there atm.

[@mr_floydst]

Great video, thank you. Now I want one. :-S :-)

[@SonicVibe]

I want the twisted electronics blast beats

[@electronscape]

First?? --- but WOW! i didnt expect it to need real SidChips though, BUT its a legit hardware too now!! it sounds just so CLEAN!! LOVE the tactile nature of this machine! no "click click click click...." it would be madness! this makes setting up the FLO's so much more accessible! this is nuts!!! i didnt see anything about over clocking the SIDCHIPS ;) i was wondering that if overclocked it could do some REALLY crazy Effects, but MIDI inputs too! THAT is a touch of AWESOME

[@dan_apeks]

Such a killer combo. Very jealous! Quick Q - how did you get the tracker to have blue notes on the black keys, great idea! Would love to do on mine.

[@MsMadLemon]

Thanks! I just used a Posca paint marker on the pads.

[@dan_apeks]

@@MsMadLemon Ah! Simple - thanks so much for the response!

[@i_oproduction]

Very cool video. What is the SID player you used at the end of the video?

[@MsMadLemon]

That was streaming from deepsid.chordian.net/ via a browser MIDI plugin.

[@SickgirlDesmond]

what is the software that sends sids to it? i cannot find any info

[@MsMadLemon]

There's no software, it's streaming it directly from deepsid.chordian.net/ through the MIDI (Via a browser MIDI plugin which needs to be installed)

[@SickgirlDesmond]

@@MsMadLemon amazing!

[@user-sx2iw2hq3l]

Hello. How does this synth work without SID chips?

[@MsMadLemon]

The whole point of the Synth is to work with SID chips.. unless you mean using SID Substitutes like ARMSID, SwinSID, BackSID etc. If so yes you can install them instead of actual SID Chips.

[@user-sx2iw2hq3l]

@@MsMadLemon So they are like oscillators? This device couldn't start working without it?

[@MsMadLemon]

@@user-sx2iw2hq3l The SId chip is the Commodore 64's sound chip, it has oscillators, envelope generators, filters etc. Basically a synthesizer on a chip. Of course it has to be programmed. The TherapSID drives it.

[@Dolle_Man]

@@MsMadLemon really informative video, well done! I just order two orginal 6581 chips (2x55euro) I was also wondering about the new ARMSID, will that also work? Seems the BACKSIT is a direct competitor of the ARMSID.

[@MsMadLemon]

@@Dolle_Man Thank you, yes the ArmSID will work for sure, the backSID is another yes, i've covered the backSID Before on my channel along with the BackBit for the C64. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX-UY5Wqlq-hhcksi=MW9FuHUoSAt4p8bG

[@lionelpacifico8485]

Very good gear but it’s not very sound like Sidstation.

[@annother3350]

So it doesnt come with chips preinstalled?

[@MsMadLemon]

Not anymore, they did but they ran out of SID chips as they're becoming more difficult to get hold of.

[@WarrenKassulke]

"PromoSM" 🙈

[@KeritechElectronics]

That's a cute little non-modular synth :) Speaking of which... I'd love to see you collab with Sam (@LookMumNoComputer) :)

[@MsMadLemon]

Not going to lie. I think collabing with Sam would be pretty cool :-) Though I'm small fry in comparison, I'm more specific in what I like to tinker with... Trackers, Amigas, Sids and specific synths :-)

[@nedtroninck9299]

I have a PT and plan on trying it with my midibox sammichSID soon. Sadly a less hands on, but highly capable SID synth. I'm glad I found this inspiring video.