The Dunblane Massacre - The Horror Of Britain's Deadliest Mass Shooting

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The Raven's Eye

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@kscorp5176
@kscorp5176 2 жыл бұрын
An armed narcissist with a victim complex scares me more than any fantastical horror movie monster. Excellent video on a tragedy that was understandably difficult to research and create.
@john0597
@john0597 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned this person was a piece of s*** how dare anyone going to a school or killed not just children but anyone just because he was going to have a gun taken off him or they wouldn't allow him to get a certain gun so we decide our know what I go to school and killed children today he was a coward and hopefully he will be punished in the afterlife is it if it is such a place
@jwarmstrong
@jwarmstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Nut job will kill w/ poison , knife , gas or fire - ask Putin for pro tips
@insmileyfacemur4242
@insmileyfacemur4242 2 жыл бұрын
Society is just toxic
@JosephKulik2016
@JosephKulik2016 2 жыл бұрын
Did he have a "victim complex" or was he an actual victim of a vicious rumor mill ???
@andy70d35
@andy70d35 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKulik2016 Not a Victim of a vicious rumour mill, 100% guarantee
@beccajconnolly
@beccajconnolly Жыл бұрын
I was the same age as these kids. Our teacher used to joke if we got something wrong “oh you’ll have me shot at dawn you lot!” The day after she came in the classroom sobbing and said “I will never say those words ever again” I met her a few years ago and she said it was the worst time of her life and that if this had happened at our school she would have given her life to save every one of us.
@DarkStar-wu9nq
@DarkStar-wu9nq Жыл бұрын
The worse time of her life 😂😂 Really ? She wasn’t even there or had anything to do with it and she is upset at her words !!! Not the fact 18 kids were shot dead by a manic ………. Typical poncy teacher
@igxfux1977
@igxfux1977 Жыл бұрын
I hope they prosecuted the people that were spreading the roumers and bulling this man, its crazy that people can drive people to do these things and think they can get away with it!
@vamppuppy6211
@vamppuppy6211 Жыл бұрын
​@@DarkStar-wu9nq idk how hard it is for you to comprehend, but she probably was scared at the fact that her joke could've been very real
@DarkStar-wu9nq
@DarkStar-wu9nq Жыл бұрын
@@vamppuppy6211 Jesus Christ , she was worried about a common saying and tried to involve her self in a mass slaughtering of children to also be a victim You are pathetic
@chill5730
@chill5730 Жыл бұрын
@@DarkStar-wu9nq Your acting like people are robots who are incapable of showing empathy or compassion. Isn't it good that she cares for her children? Smh
@SS-zz4pi
@SS-zz4pi 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the reports of this horror in stunned disbelief. You have echoed that disbelief in your sensitive and respectful video - no matter how Hamilton was treated, or his perception of persecution, to kill such tiny children in a calculated and inhuman onslaught is an unfathomable act.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 2 жыл бұрын
@bastiat look at the number of school shootings in the UK compared to the US. Take a hint, buddy.
@smith549371
@smith549371 Жыл бұрын
@bastiat the UK and every other country with proper regulations for firearms are really happy that they have the freedom of not having to fear for their lives wherever they go
@ligmasack9038
@ligmasack9038 Жыл бұрын
@@smith549371 Except they are still having to worry about their Safety because of a certain "Religious Persuasion" stabbing and beating people with Tools, etc.🤡💩
@ligmasack9038
@ligmasack9038 Жыл бұрын
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. It's adorable how you ignore that Other types of Assault with Weapons has still gone up in the U.K., Short-Bus; which makes your lie even more Ret@rded!🤡💩
@smith549371
@smith549371 Жыл бұрын
@@ligmasack9038 nope. No they dont
@jackmonaghan8477
@jackmonaghan8477 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Tennis champion Andy Murray and his brother Jamie attended Dunblane and were both in attendance on that day (they hid in another classroom). Murray also mentioned in his autobiography how his mother used to give Hamilton lifts.
@keithp6699
@keithp6699 2 жыл бұрын
I knew that there was a famous person who was there that day but I couldn't think who it was.
@ElizabethTheUnicorn829
@ElizabethTheUnicorn829 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow
@janicesmith2475
@janicesmith2475 2 жыл бұрын
What’s a Hamilton lift?
@elainelytle9704
@elainelytle9704 2 жыл бұрын
@@janicesmith2475 Hamilton is shooters last name. A lift is a ride.
@janicesmith2475
@janicesmith2475 2 жыл бұрын
@@elainelytle9704 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I am laughing so hard at myself right now!! I thought a “Hamilton Lift” was some British thing I’d never heard of, like a term for a massage? Or a facial?
@jenniferholden9397
@jenniferholden9397 2 жыл бұрын
My little girl was the same age as these little chicks who were robbed of their lives by someone who I won’t name. When the picture of the class was in the paper a little girl stood out to me as she was so very much like my daughter. It still gives me the shivers now. Her dad was a single parent as the little girls mother had passed away. Bless you all you little loves, sleep tight, night night Sophie. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻🌹
@lindastanley229
@lindastanley229 Жыл бұрын
Jennifer Holden I too think about sophie north alot.already having lost her mum and the dad mick seems such a lovely man.he comes across so gentle and kind.i hope hes ok I think of him alot.
@LethalJizzle
@LethalJizzle 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he was determined to get near those kids and when he couldn't he decided to take them entirely. Horrific. The apparent cover-up of the enquiry suggests a lot of the red flags you mentioned weren't dealt with as seriously as they should have been.
@lindamerchant4431
@lindamerchant4431 2 жыл бұрын
Little children!!!!
@julosx
@julosx 2 жыл бұрын
It's obvious if some creep monster as Hamilton was to be heard of today, he would end up in jail well before comitting such a heinous crime, labelled as a sex offender.
@JosephKulik2016
@JosephKulik2016 2 жыл бұрын
"The apparent cover-up of the enquiry suggests" to me that he may have been driven to this act by a vicious local rumor that ruined his life with unsubstantiated Bull Sh!t.
@andy70d35
@andy70d35 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKulik2016 Bull Shit, I live 47 minutes drive from Dunblane and a Very close family friend I have known for over 30 years had her son try to commit suicide after Dunblane, because of guilt as he was molested by Hamilton at one of the so-called boys groups he led in my town. I would have happily gone to jail to stop that bastard. I watched a close friend's marriage fall apart and her go through hell because of Hamilton. Whether you believe me or not, I couldn't care less, but I can assure you very many lives were changed that day and not for the better. I won't publish names, as I have too much respect for my friend and her family.
@matty6848
@matty6848 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh true.
@lisaamato1332
@lisaamato1332 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a sensitive and detailed account. This tragic incident really resonated with me as I was teaching a class of the same age children at that time. Such a waste of so many innocent and precious lives.
@spudspuddy
@spudspuddy Жыл бұрын
stop being over sensitive and grow up, baby adults are of no use to anyone, children need strong role models
@lisaamato1332
@lisaamato1332 Жыл бұрын
Totally thoughtless, pointless and unnecessary comment from a keyboard warrior lacking any form of intelligence or empathy!!
@sarahwagland1559
@sarahwagland1559 Жыл бұрын
​@@spudspuddy I recommend that you seek help.
@aabll5993
@aabll5993 Жыл бұрын
​@@sarahwagland1559 Couldn't agree with you more.
@kyleg9735
@kyleg9735 2 жыл бұрын
My first time seeing a full explanation of this event and wow, truly a degenerate monster. Love your content as always. 1k subs comin up!
@WendysCove
@WendysCove 2 жыл бұрын
Like Putin.....
@mfanwelikeit3760
@mfanwelikeit3760 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this as an 11 year old and being totally bewildered by it. A month later here in Australia we had the Port Arthur Massacre. It changed my world view drastically.
@julosx
@julosx 2 жыл бұрын
Call it copycat effect. The Port Arthur massacre (35 people dead) would have never happen if the Dunblame one didn't.
@catraoinekelly2879
@catraoinekelly2879 2 жыл бұрын
@@julosx it's not a competition, is it?
@fritzfxx
@fritzfxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@catraoinekelly2879 think he was just illuminating the connection with the potential copycat effect
@kateemma22
@kateemma22 2 жыл бұрын
It's strongly believed that Bryant, already unwell, saw Dunblane and went 'well that will solve all my problems'.
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 жыл бұрын
There is no reason to own a gun. I can understand being a hobbyist, but it is very difficult, if not impossible, to definitively separate a hobbyist from a future mass murderer. This person was creepy, but never had done anything to suggest that he would react as he did. Indeed, if I were to have even considered that he might "snap" I wouldn't think that he would take it out on five year olds.
@civillady13
@civillady13 2 жыл бұрын
I will never be able to understand even a little how anyone would choose to shoot helpless innocents. I would think that if such a disturbed individual was going to shoot anyone wouldn’t he have targeted adults and/or those who he held responsible for ruining him? I had never heard of this tragedy and your presentation was very respectful. I’m glad you included the names of the victims at the end. Thank you.
@fluffyfour
@fluffyfour 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible, in his twisted mind, that they were responsible, in the same way as domestic abusers blame their victims for their own actions. He seems also to be narcissistic, in his letter to the Queen (???) he speaks only of the effect on himself, showing no concern whatsoever for those in his care or their right to a safe and nurturing environment.
@justforrow
@justforrow 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he couldn't reach the targets that he wanted to shoot so he instead took out his frustration on the people that he could reach: innocent people.
@ccc7534
@ccc7534 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was 'thinking' something like this: "All the people who suspect me of wanting to hurt kids, I'll show you what REAL hurt looks like. This is all your fault, you drove me to it. You're to blame."
@basbleupeaunoire
@basbleupeaunoire 2 жыл бұрын
It seems abundantly clear that he was always okay with hurting children.
@pissofdanslekanivo6527
@pissofdanslekanivo6527 Жыл бұрын
It is possible because of white ferocity Laying in white folks mind 🤮
@vahvahdisco
@vahvahdisco 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this. I was 26 and totally in shock at how anyone could shoot innocent children, especially as in happened in the U.K. - it wasn’t the usual type of crime. You handled this harrowing account very well and this is the third video I’ve watched of yours this morning - I’ve already subscribed ! Thank you !
@matty6848
@matty6848 2 жыл бұрын
Yes same here, but I was 18. I couldn’t even get my head around what happened. RIP those poor kids.
@theprior46
@theprior46 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly and sensitively made account. Making this video documentary clearly took immense emotional strength and it was a perfect tribute in memory of those who so unfairly lost their lives.
@castleview3321
@castleview3321 2 жыл бұрын
I have a relative who was involved in running church groups in the area for many years and knew Hamilton. They said that there were rumours and reports about him going back 25 years , but nothing ever happened because I quote 'he had friends in the right places.' Sadly that seems to have been par for the course back in the 70's and 80''s....
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays Жыл бұрын
Wonder if is why they put a media ban on the story as others are talking about
@velveetaslingshot
@velveetaslingshot 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being given the duty of telling the parents, on the day that it happened, that their child is dead. I would rather die myself than have to deliver that news to a parent.
@57Jimmy
@57Jimmy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this difficult video you have added to your list. I really admire your dedication to deliver the facts on all of your reports on historic events, regardless as to if it is hard to do. So many want to re-write history to alter the truth so as not to offend people, which is an absolute shame. Keep up the great work! Cheers from Vancouver Island BC🇨🇦
@kimberlylholt
@kimberlylholt 2 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to you for making this video. It had to be hard. Thank you for your respect.
@AlexanderFort
@AlexanderFort 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1989 so these kids would have been around my age (32-33) today. Man, that is so sad. What would those children have been today if their lives hadn’t been cut short?
@mydogeatspuke
@mydogeatspuke Жыл бұрын
Older.
@AnEnemy100
@AnEnemy100 2 жыл бұрын
I also remember this event with particular horror and revulsion. The secrecy around the Cullen report is also deeply disturbing. I did not know about that. Thank you.
@alistairmcelwee7467
@alistairmcelwee7467 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be the most disgusting event possible.
@borleyboo5613
@borleyboo5613 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the photo of those babies and knowing what would happen is bloody gut wrenching. I remember this very well and the minutes silence on the radio. May those little darlings have eternal peace and their grieving families. 🌹
@Corrus
@Corrus 2 жыл бұрын
Sensitively handled. Great video. Well done.
@theravenseye9443
@theravenseye9443 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - it's appreciated.
@cornelius_plays9540
@cornelius_plays9540 2 жыл бұрын
You told this very well, this video it’s me emotional because I live 3 houses down from the school, this was a terrible act and let us remember the people we lost.
@zew1414
@zew1414 2 жыл бұрын
My father went to that school back in the 30's, I remember this hitting him very hard.
@burkezillar
@burkezillar 2 жыл бұрын
I have vague memories of this. I was about their age, and all I can remember is it feeling odd. The teachers seemed a bit odd (as in, twitchy) and then when we left school my mom properly held me and my sister. More than usual. We were hundreds of miles away, and I don't think a parent or teacher wasn't affected by this that day and the days afterwards.
@a20axf
@a20axf Жыл бұрын
I live only a couple of miles away in Bridge of Allan and know many people whose lives were affected by this tragedy. Even my neighbour’s son had experienced his strange behaviour in the scouts. Thankfully this has been an isolated incident in this country, but it’s significance on the local community has never diminished.
@weescottishguy8950
@weescottishguy8950 Жыл бұрын
I was 9yrs old in Crieff Primary 18miles away and we got sent home that morning not knowing why until we got home. It was frightening
@albee_fuqtifanno8595
@albee_fuqtifanno8595 2 жыл бұрын
My workmates son was murdered by Hamilton that day. He was never the same after this.His marriage fell apart and he moved away. That been said on the anniversary last year Lorraine Kelly met him and went cold water swimming with him in loch Lomond. I remember where i was, what i did next after i heard the awful news..so sad. Its thought Hamiltons paedophilia brought up the names of prominent figures in Scotlands police force and Masons groups.. That would no surprise me one bit.
@flemmingsorensen5470
@flemmingsorensen5470 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldnt it surprise you?
@davidjma7226
@davidjma7226 Жыл бұрын
Correct. That is why the official Report is hidden under the Official Secrets Act for 100 years. Otherwise names of VIPs in the Masons with whom Hamilton was associated would be public knowledge. So the Report was deemed to be 'not in the public interest'. Usual Government term used to cover things up.
@MiloManning05
@MiloManning05 Жыл бұрын
@@flemmingsorensen5470 police and Freemasons in Scotland are into that kind of thing
@kevinbowie2054
@kevinbowie2054 Ай бұрын
@@flemmingsorensen5470probably because it’s rife.
@kevinbowie2054
@kevinbowie2054 Ай бұрын
@@davidjma7226yip total cover up mate spot on
@MartynTaylor50
@MartynTaylor50 2 жыл бұрын
There are still questions to be answered as to why he was allowed to retain his gun licence even after his gun club informed the police of their doubts of his mental state.
@alantheinquirer7658
@alantheinquirer7658 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, in those days once an individual was considered acceptable for a firearm license that became the default setting. To the authorities he did the unthinkable and the impossible. I think that the 'lock' on the Cullen report is to cover-up the authorities incompetence rather than some nebulous 'freemason conspiracy'. Let's not forget that this tragedy was only 7 years after Hillsborough ... and look what lengths they took to cover-up police incompetence then.
@flannelpillowcase6475
@flannelpillowcase6475 2 жыл бұрын
no idea, but i think it's pretty amusing that instead of just tightening up the gun license requirements, they just completely outlawed guns for literally everyone lol. talk about a knee jerk reaction. makes me feel bad for all those people who were punished for the crime of one psycho pos by being forced to hand in all their legally owned guns and could never enjoy the freedom of owning them ever again.
@tilda_0464
@tilda_0464 2 жыл бұрын
@@flannelpillowcase6475 Only handguns were completely outlawed. People can still own shotguns and rifles with the appropriate licences. But I agree that it was still harsh to confiscate that amount of guns from legal owners.
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 2 жыл бұрын
He had actually gone crazy and held some of them at gun point on more than one occasion. The burden of proof needed to deny someone a firearm is much lower than that at criminal trial. My guess is the police had an extensive file on his inappropriate relations with young boys as well. Sounds to me like someone powerful in the Scottish establishment was looking out for him.
@justbreakingballs
@justbreakingballs Жыл бұрын
​@@flannelpillowcase6475 well we will never know how many lives that ban has saved by who's not been shot.
@Littlebigwolfie24
@Littlebigwolfie24 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this as a documentary on TV a while ago. I feel for the families of these victims as they wanted to get the answers as why their children and teacher was killed in cold blood along with others was wounded. They was babies, they didn't know what was going on at the time. Thank you for doing this sensitive topic and try to help the families of the fallen angels to get some closure and answers if possible. Heartbreaking to learn more about these horrible events.
@naturalroyalflush
@naturalroyalflush Жыл бұрын
As a father of two children and grandfather of two children, I fondly recall their primary school years. Seeing that list at the end and the ages of those so cruelly taken, destroyed me. I fully understand your feelings in this matter. Rest in eternal peace little angels.
@ElizabethTheUnicorn829
@ElizabethTheUnicorn829 2 жыл бұрын
0:39 As a American citizen seeing the map of the shootings breaks my heart.
@jonhiggins2012
@jonhiggins2012 2 жыл бұрын
It's really not as bad as it looks, due to the size of our country and the large population. Like, 10-20 times more people die choking on food every year.
@AlisonBryen
@AlisonBryen Жыл бұрын
​@@jonhiggins2012 NRA much?
@davidevans916
@davidevans916 Жыл бұрын
Why aren’t you demanding this stops
@harryshriver6223
@harryshriver6223 Жыл бұрын
The horror of this tragedy still breaks my heart and brings tears to my eyes. How could you envision hurting children for any reason? Mr. Creepy was the perfect nomenclature for him and he should have never been allowed to be a part of any child's life. Condolences to all the victims of this horrible tragedy 🙏 😢 😞 Vaya con Dios y con amor 💔
@uvarddhamaananjain9190
@uvarddhamaananjain9190 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video brother.The effort you put in your videos is mindblowing. I hope this channel reaches great heights as soon as possible.
@Zulf85
@Zulf85 2 жыл бұрын
No matter where you are in the world, no child deserves to be scared of being shot when they go to school. It's a difficult topic to tackle, but you did so with such care and thoughtfulness and you should be commended for it
@nikkimclay5474
@nikkimclay5474 2 жыл бұрын
Only in the US does this fear exist today, everyday
@EnclaveOfficer1776
@EnclaveOfficer1776 Жыл бұрын
@@nikkimclay5474 freedom isn’t free. 🇺🇸 God bless the second amendment.
@itsjohndell
@itsjohndell Жыл бұрын
@@EnclaveOfficer1776 And damn those who use it as an excuse.
@richardcranium3579
@richardcranium3579 Жыл бұрын
@@itsjohndellnd damn those who use the actions if a pedophilic molesting pervert to remove the freedoms from law abiding citizens ………….see how that works? Hiding the reports for 100 years? Yeah, nothing sketchy at all going on huh? But perverts will be perverts. What do you propose to be done about out of control knife crime in the UK?
@IditaBugger
@IditaBugger 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly you can add Uvalde, TX massacre to your collection. 19 Children and 2 Adults killed on 24 May 2022.
@scallopohare9431
@scallopohare9431 2 жыл бұрын
Well, both schools lacked basic security.
@thehumanoddity
@thehumanoddity 2 жыл бұрын
Uvalde was terribly managed. The police sat on their asses for a hour because the dumbass police chief made them stand down for the "hostage situation".
@davehoward22
@davehoward22 Жыл бұрын
People who go nuts and decide to take innocents with them can never be understood,but this is truly horrific and completely unjustified.
@behindtheshield7834
@behindtheshield7834 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this articulate and balanced perspective on such a horrendous tragedy in British history.
@elmin82
@elmin82 2 жыл бұрын
those poor children have no fault, what a monster
@gayprepperz6862
@gayprepperz6862 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the faces of those children, and thinking of what that monster did to them sickens me on a level that I haven't felt since the Sandy Hook massacre. I'm convinced that this narcissist blamed all of his woes on the children (which is typical of people like him), and not on his actions towards young boys in the past. In his mind, he was the real victim.
@johneeeemarry34
@johneeeemarry34 Жыл бұрын
Like all gay people.
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 2 жыл бұрын
The potential links Hamilton had probably explained why after having his firearms confiscated after holding members of his local club at gun point. He appealed to the chief constable who told them to give them back. Under the existing laws there was more than enough cause to deny Hamilton his firearms. The local police who licensed him would have been well aware of his history with young boys and had multiple witnesses at his gun club. The burden of proof to deny someone a firearm is much lower than the standards in criminal court. The fact is no new gun legislation was needed, there was already ample laws in place to keep people like Hamilton away from firearms but they were not applied. The same with the weirdo in Plymouth in 2020 - he assaulted two boys in the park. The police took away his shotgun and then gave it back even though they were well within their rights to confiscate it permanently and revoke his certificate. Derek Byrd in Cumbria likewise was under criminal investigation for tax evasion at the time. I forget his name now, the man who committed the Hungerford massacre - he would probably have not been stopped. About the only thing people said about him was that he had an unnatural relationship with his mother. Brevik in Norway to. He was "odd" but nothing that would have prevented him from being licensed although oddly enough social services in Norway knew he had been horrifically emotionally abused by his mother - a fact which was suppressed at his trial for the sake of her "dignity" even though that witch created the worst mass killer in Norwegian history. I remember this. I was young but at roughly the same time there was a machete attack on a school in my home town and after that I remember there being more stringent security measures at my school. They improved the fence, the doors and would lock the gates except at certain times of day.
@brownrabbit61
@brownrabbit61 Жыл бұрын
Michael Ryan was his name. I remember the machete attack, it was in the Wolverhampton area wasn't it? These things stick in your mind forever. Most schools started locking their doors and gates after those incidents.
@colombianguy8194
@colombianguy8194 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, so the police were just idiots to hand over the guns to that psychopath and the whole UK paid the stupid price to ban handguns because of the moral panic attack that came after the tragedy, great.. :-/
@robwilgenhof4386
@robwilgenhof4386 2 жыл бұрын
That is a difficult story to watch … how can people do such horrible things…..
@AnnamarieShellard
@AnnamarieShellard 7 ай бұрын
His neighbours statement said it all. He wasn't a loner at all. He had numerous male visitors daily and they were all suited and booted. Men higher up knew him very well,it's absolutely disgraceful how they knew he was a danger to children yet did nothing.
@BrettManZA80
@BrettManZA80 Жыл бұрын
This was depressing to watch😢 Your sensitive approach was spot on though mate. Well done.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you failed to mention was that apparently Hamilton had intended to enter the school earlier while the whole school was gathered in the assembly hall. If he had done so many more innocent lives would have been lost! If that had happened, among them may have been one boy who went on to win at Wimbledon, one Andrew Murray!
@PlurFW29
@PlurFW29 2 жыл бұрын
You should look into the Bogota mass shooting of 1986, a crazy story that is obscure and not related to the ongoing civil war etc in Colombia at those times but buried by that violence. It's actually a standalone event
@aidanlynn
@aidanlynn Жыл бұрын
Definitely more to the story that needs to be revealed, why else would the documents be sealed for 100 years?
@kylelambert5583
@kylelambert5583 2 ай бұрын
Free masons and curropt cops
@wendygreidanus8391
@wendygreidanus8391 2 ай бұрын
You, The Raven's Eye, approach your documentaries with a sensitivity that I appreciate. Cheers, from Canada.
@muleteam66
@muleteam66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for acknowledging that it's not just an American thing. Evil can be anywhere.
@wmurch3
@wmurch3 2 жыл бұрын
We just make it easier 😒
@JDLupus
@JDLupus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference being that we changed the laws in the wake of this incident whereas America continues to make it stupidly easy to carry out such evil things...
@williamhamrick5871
@williamhamrick5871 2 жыл бұрын
Well put. Unfortunately there are antisocial people and mental illness issues everywhere, yet some focus on inanimate objects instead of confronting abnormal behavior.
@captainhindsight8779
@captainhindsight8779 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamhamrick5871 dOnT bAn gUnS, bAn PeOpLe 🥴. The US needs gun control plain and simple.
@williamhamrick5871
@williamhamrick5871 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainhindsight8779 That pesky personal responsibility thing! Drat! Blame the spoons!
@PronatorTendon
@PronatorTendon 2 жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate that no penalty worse than death can be issued to people like that
@kayehodges6689
@kayehodges6689 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this day well,it happened on my son's 8th birthday. Such a sad day,RIP to all the victims.
@DaytonaPrototypes
@DaytonaPrototypes 10 ай бұрын
The fact that the report will not be released for any of us to witness is quite disturbing. The whole thing screams cover-up.
@dun0790
@dun0790 2 жыл бұрын
I was 6 or 7 when this happened and I remember the wierd sudden change in atmosphere everyone walked there kids to gate And stayed a while
@Purpleguy1929
@Purpleguy1929 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, keep it up, also can you do the space shuttle Challenger disaster 1986 next
@theravenseye9443
@theravenseye9443 2 жыл бұрын
I think Fascinating Horror just beat me to it....!
@Purpleguy1929
@Purpleguy1929 2 жыл бұрын
Oh ok
@Purpleguy1929
@Purpleguy1929 2 жыл бұрын
How about the space shuttle Columbia disaster
@SnakePliskin762
@SnakePliskin762 20 күн бұрын
​@@theravenseye9443Derrick bird?
@richthompson1234
@richthompson1234 2 жыл бұрын
On a couple of trips to the US I spoke with quite a number of US Police Officers regarding mass murders by gunmen. They have an unwritten policy of not referring to the offenders by name, after all, in general they crave publicity. Instead they are referred as the 'Murderer of.......' or the 'Perpetrator of ....killings', They said they prefer to refer to the victims by their names, so they are never forgotten. The murderer, whether dead or living is therefore deprived of the oxygen of publicity.
@benwilson6145
@benwilson6145 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, we must never forget
@jessicamilestone4026
@jessicamilestone4026 2 жыл бұрын
This case haunts me. I was 16 when it happened. I remember just going round in a daize for a long time afterwards. It was heartbreaking 💔
@ElizabethTheUnicorn829
@ElizabethTheUnicorn829 2 жыл бұрын
I was almost 14 and I still remember crying and seeing both of my parents cry and they never cried.
@paulpiacentini
@paulpiacentini Жыл бұрын
I will never, ever forget where I was and what I was doing when this came over the radio. Thank you for your sensitive empathy.
@bunny-vo3qs
@bunny-vo3qs 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully my Dad had his shooting guns taken after gun laws became stricter due to this awful incident. He once held a shotgun to his mothers head in a standoff with police, I thankgod he didnt kill us all that day, I was very young.
@stantory1822
@stantory1822 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of monster you have to be to do something like this
@JMoruzzi
@JMoruzzi Жыл бұрын
This incident doesn't get discussed that much in the UK, except when it comes up in profiles of Andy Murray who was a pupil there when it happened. It's in the category of those events like the Chatham bus disaster and Aberfan that are so hideous we collectively try to forget about them. This one is particularly awful because it was deliberate.
@JohnSmith19282
@JohnSmith19282 Жыл бұрын
Wow I literally live down the road from chatham(sadly) never knew about the bus incident .
@Edenb32
@Edenb32 2 ай бұрын
I’m exactly the same age as those little children. I’ve heard of the Dunblane massacre but never actually looked it up. Tragically the murders in my town of Southport have led me here. So much evil in the world 😢😢😢😢
@redsquirrel1086
@redsquirrel1086 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I remember the incident all too well.
@minimaxi802
@minimaxi802 4 ай бұрын
My aunt and uncle's surname is Hamilton and this event was so appalling that it was necessary for them to change their name for ridicule, hate and persecution it could have caused. In fact my aunt's father who died in 1992 had the same name Thomas Hamilton. I can't imagine if he was still alive in 1996 when this happened how it would have affected him.
@basbleupeaunoire
@basbleupeaunoire 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew the whole story. One of the many horrifying things here is how naive people were about child predators. People actually sent their children to this man after his dismissal and amid the rumors. And why the devil were those boys shirtless? That loser was a waste of skin.
@OliversMobileAdventures
@OliversMobileAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I don't usually get so horrified by one person to click off a video and then think about it, but that's just happened...
@MrWorcesterblue
@MrWorcesterblue Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing police officers looking very emotional at the scene and back then you didn’t see stuff like that and it made you realise what they must’ve seen. I was 18 at the time and years away from being a parent. Now as a parent of 6 year old twins this is more poignant and upsetting than ever
@michaelbooth2890
@michaelbooth2890 2 жыл бұрын
It's been 26 years. At the time I was a child myself. In the wake of such a sad event, I am proud of the people of Britain who made the government strengthen gun laws.
@DoubleMonoLR
@DoubleMonoLR 2 жыл бұрын
Laws were likewise changed in Australia & here in NZ after terrible mass shootings.
@arnoldhenry
@arnoldhenry 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoubleMonoLR I wish the same thing happens here in the US, but the Republicans and the National Rifle Association keep blocking the efforts, citing the Second Amendment, saying it will infringed people's right to bear arms.
@fluffyfour
@fluffyfour 2 жыл бұрын
@@arnoldhenry Yes, I always wonder why the 'right' to bear arms (old-fashioned and targeted at aggression towards Native Americans in the first place) is worth more than the life of America's children? My friend was killed in New York by a stray bullet which came through his hotel room window. Maybe if that happened to the sons and daughters of the NRA they might value life more highly?
@arnoldhenry
@arnoldhenry 2 жыл бұрын
@@fluffyfour I wonder that, also. All of those people would react differently if those incidents happen to someone in their family. The school shootings, I wonder if these politicians and the NRA uppers would react if someone with an AR-15 on full-auto came to one of those high-priced private schools they send their kids to evade the violence and start killing. I wonder if they would react if it happens to them.
@sullivanknoth6430
@sullivanknoth6430 2 жыл бұрын
@@fluffyfour your assessment of our 2nd amendment is wholly incorrect. The right to bear arms protects us, the citizens against a tyrannical government take-over. It's a system of checks and balances that ensures that our government will never be able to trample on our rights or subject us to totalitarian rule.
@hannabass1132
@hannabass1132 2 жыл бұрын
Those poor, adorable babies........
@kylemonk7888
@kylemonk7888 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awsome work! Awsome channel.
@billfeld5883
@billfeld5883 2 жыл бұрын
We just lost 19 children and two teachers in a mass shooting in Uvalde Texas, when will this madness end!!! RIP 2022
@ktulu3767
@ktulu3767 2 жыл бұрын
When people start to understand that we should be protecting schools better than we protect government facilities, that we should arm security within schools... where does a gunman go? A rifle range? A city where the populous is typically armed to the teeth? No, they will go to a vulnerable facility, through the path of least resistance..
@KaleidoscopicVideos420
@KaleidoscopicVideos420 Жыл бұрын
When people stop voting republican
@KaleidoscopicVideos420
@KaleidoscopicVideos420 Жыл бұрын
​@@ktulu3767 you really would rather turn schools into glorified prisons than pass gun control laws? Lol
@m.streicher8286
@m.streicher8286 2 жыл бұрын
I'm struck by the efficiency of this event. Not to sound insensitive. As an American I'm used to lengthy rampages and hour+ standoffs.
@BBCharger5spd
@BBCharger5spd 2 жыл бұрын
I believe (with respect to all these incidents) in the US the culture of "me, me, me" creates a situation where typically the shooter goes on a rampage for political, social, selfish reasons where they want the spotlight and to be remembered as "important". In the UK people tend to be more anonymous and just want to live their best lives. Maybe that's why this man (piece of human sh!t) simply went in and did what he did then offed himself. I don't know but I know there is a drastic cultural difference between the UK and the US
@anamekian1742
@anamekian1742 2 жыл бұрын
@@BBCharger5spd From my own personal experiences with my British friends (and I have a LOT, for an American. I used to pro wrestling podcasts & KZbin shows. British Isles have a HUGE pro wrestling following now. So, I know quite a few. At least in 15-20 range…maybe even more. And I talked to them quite regularly. Anyway…so, from my dealings with all of them)…. There’s really NOT a big difference.
@scallopohare9431
@scallopohare9431 2 жыл бұрын
Soft target. Only an unarmed, untrained teacher to confront him. A decade before this, my high school in the US had metal detectors and security at the doors. No one got in without being screened.
@softballgrl2346
@softballgrl2346 2 жыл бұрын
As an American, I appreciate that their community came together to make their government pass the strict gun laws. But here, more people are buying more and more guns thinking they need to protect themselves. However, the ones who claim this happen to also be the same race as the ones who cause these horrific tragedies
@scallopohare9431
@scallopohare9431 2 жыл бұрын
@@softballgrl2346 I am not anybody's RA, but I am pretty sure that the number of kills in mass shootings by deranged wht men don't come close to the carnage in drug dealing places.
@Marc-vr3rs
@Marc-vr3rs Жыл бұрын
My dad actually met him in a pub in Stirling 3 weeks before the shooting. He said he was really odd but didn’t think much of it until he saw his photo In the news after the shooting happened
@jkhtravelrn
@jkhtravelrn 2 жыл бұрын
It is dumbfounding that it only took one school shooting in the UK to pass the highest, most extreme gun law ever. We have a mass shooting somewhere in the US every week, or more often than that. We are still reeling from the massacre of numerous kindergarten children (ages 5 & 6) in Southern Texas very recently. The police response was pitiful. The first officer arrived 3 minutes after the shooting started. Parents and other citizens arrive to find the police and other 1st responders outside. People BEGGED the police to go in to the school, and 1 hour & 14 minutes later, when the SWAT team was ready, they finally did. Even the parents were threatened with arrest if they tried to go in before SWAT finally arrived to lead the way. Despite this, one woman, who ended up getting in to the school, was able to rescue both of he’d children from two different classes. What is so frustrating is that no major change or tightening up of the gun laws have even been brought before the court. The NRA is very active here in the USA. Especially in the Republican Party. I don’t own a gun but my ex-husband did. He hunted with his, however. He didn’t own any automatic or semi automatic weapons, or even a hand gun. I hope this country can pass even just one law related to this. Keep your fingers crossed 🤞
@Diptera_Larvae
@Diptera_Larvae 2 жыл бұрын
I was in year four in 96, this and the Port Arthur massacre have always haunted me. I’ve always been thankful that some Governments actually used these tragedies to have tighter gun controls to makes countries safer.
@headshotmaster138
@headshotmaster138 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it makes you easier to control by the government and let's forget mass stabbings or other ways to kill a large group of people without the need of a firearm.
@elainejones9299
@elainejones9299 2 жыл бұрын
@@headshotmaster138 Oh shut up yank
@mfanwelikeit3760
@mfanwelikeit3760 2 жыл бұрын
I was in year 6, I remember vividly the shock and horror. I remember also my gun loving family handing in guns for the buy back here in Australia. There was some fear about needing them for self defence (as some use overseas as an excuse) but their resolve was - “Never again”
@johngalt2506
@johngalt2506 2 жыл бұрын
@@mfanwelikeit3760 how compliant of you. 🙄
@elainejones9299
@elainejones9299 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngalt2506 Look me in the eyes and tell me that guns are more important than kids lives.
@susanwaugh9711
@susanwaugh9711 4 ай бұрын
I come from Dunfermline, not far from Dunblane. My dad’s colleague, who worked for BT, was in charge of installing more telephone lines at the school that day so that people could call from all over the world. My dad’s friend’s son attended the school and gun shots were being fired at his classroom window from the gymnasium. The poor boy wet himself for weeks after the incident due to the trauma. I, along with my friends at Dunfermline High School, started a petition to ban handguns in the UK and sent the petition off to Downing Street. I’ll never forget when the news broke and my mother and I watched in horror and utter disbelief. We couldn’t believe it was all happening near to us. Shootings are unheard of in this part of Scotland. My brother and I paid a visit to the school, and, although it’s all in the past, and the school has moved on since then, you couldn’t help but feel utter sadness for all the wee children who had lost their lives and their heroic teacher.
@travelerforever8849
@travelerforever8849 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a documentary done on this incident where the gun laws in UK become very strict after this tragedy.
@Ozymandias1
@Ozymandias1 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the sports shooting events at the 2012 London Olympics originally could not take place in the UK until the government gave a special permit for them to be held in an army barracks under strict security by the military.
@Gail1Marie
@Gail1Marie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ozymandias1 Glad to see that SOME country has the balls to control weapons. I served in the US military, and before I was deployed to South Korea, I was only allowed to qualify with the .38 pistol. The military decided that I didn't have a "need" to qualify with the M-16. (That, despite the ever-present danger of being invaded and overrun by North Korea.) But the average 18-year-old civilian--who can't even buy a legal drink--can legally buy an AR-15 or AK-47. Why does a civilian have more of a "need" to shoot a quasi-military weapon than I did in the military? We have truly taken leave of our sense in America.
@jasonm949
@jasonm949 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gail1Marie I'm guessing your military occupation didn't need to require more than qualification with a .38, which hasn't been in service for years, so times change. Also, your opinion doesn't trump other's rights. I also don't see the word "need" in the 2A. Deal with it.
@Gail1Marie
@Gail1Marie 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonm949 So where do we draw the line? I'd like my own tactical nuke. Why am I not allowed to own one? I gots muh RIGHTS!
@thehumanoddity
@thehumanoddity 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gail1Marie The better question is why they didn't think you needed to be qualified with the M16. What were you doing over there, logistics?
@ColoursCapello
@ColoursCapello Жыл бұрын
He lived in my neighbourhood. I was in primary 6 at the time of the shooting, but in Stirling. It's a really creepy feeling knowing that this guy was walking about our youth club organisations back then. I went to the scouts in St. Ninians around the time too. I still remember the little white coffins being driven by our house.
@MarineAqua45
@MarineAqua45 Жыл бұрын
He was protected by members of:The Scottish-establishment,including:Ex-ACC,Douglas McMurdo. McMurdo was,partially,responsible for this massacre,as he:authorised the renewal of Hamiltons FAC-license:allowing him to legitimately,buy:two more handguns,as well as not penalising him for:illegally,owning,two other guns with,no license. He overruled his own police-force(Central) Thats how he got away with it. Hamilton was even banned from other gun-clubs & they hated his guts & reported him to the police too,after he showed the other men at his,club: pictures of semi-naked boys (In a swimming-pool:-)in an unhealthy,manner. No one liked the bastard,despite the lies that,that cow:Gillian Marshall-Andrews,came out with,about his fellow,club-members:encouraging him to shoot,in an undisciplined,way,etc. The Snowdrop Campaign should have gone after this lot & not:legitimate,gun-owners.
@elliottprice6084
@elliottprice6084 Жыл бұрын
27 years on, this tragedy is as sad and shocking as ever. This video was done so sensitively
@joelewis3182
@joelewis3182 Жыл бұрын
I was the same age as these kids. Both my parents were journalists. When it happened my dad told my mum to take the day off to “sort the house” for our move to the country. He also cancelled the paper round that day. He didn’t want her to see the story.
@Stu-SB
@Stu-SB 2 жыл бұрын
One of those..I remember exactly where I was tragedies....I live not far from Dunblane, everyone was in shock with this..
@MFKR696
@MFKR696 2 жыл бұрын
Do we really have to talk about how people appear on this show? I think it's been patently proved that how people look means literally nothing. How many times have we heard "he seemed like the nicest guy"? "Nice" people have a way of cracking and shooting up grocery stores, no? I can't even get into how many times I've heard real assholes going on about "I'm so nice to everyone. Why don't they love me?" lol No, my dude.... You're not nice. You just pretend to be, but you're obviously not convincing anyone....
@LyraMorgana
@LyraMorgana 2 жыл бұрын
Ok sooooo I got to 5 mins and 51 seconds and can not watch any more, I am so so sorry!! This has never happened before. It was beautifully done though, so respectful even when it wasn't deserved. I have now subscribed and intend to binge watch what I haven't already. Love the channel!
@theravenseye9443
@theravenseye9443 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@number9loyaltv
@number9loyaltv Жыл бұрын
The Children weren't "pre-school". They were in Primary One. 😢
@dsfs17987
@dsfs17987 Жыл бұрын
how could the official report have been made secret about stuff like this? is it possible to launch a legal action to lift the secrecy?
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын
It's appalling yes!
@samihukka4490
@samihukka4490 Жыл бұрын
That secrecy law is just ridiculous.
@Forflipsake
@Forflipsake 2 жыл бұрын
I was 12 when this happened my mum is Scottish although we live in England , I remember this being allover the news and it really effecting my mum greatly. She was deeply upset about it. He was pure evil. The image at 4:20 gives me the shivers. You can see he’s having sick thoughts about those kids.
@crawfs83
@crawfs83 7 ай бұрын
Can't imagine what them little innocent kids and their teachers went through. Being a parent must have been gut wrenching.
@margm4
@margm4 2 жыл бұрын
A monstrous person. Cannot even comment. Revulsion. 🇦🇺
@paulclements6315
@paulclements6315 Жыл бұрын
My mother was a head teacher in a primary school about 2 miles from Dunblane. When this was all going on nobody knew Hamilton had killed himself. My mother was told to bolt the school doors in case he had planned to attack more than Dunblane PS. An absolutely horrific event which no matter how hard you try you'll never begin to comprehend the impact it had on Dunblane and the surrounding areas.
@alisonlee3314
@alisonlee3314 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not far from Dunblane. I still find it extremely difficult to watch videos about what happened 😞😞 Thank you for covering this tragedy so sympathetically.
@B33FY2011
@B33FY2011 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this on the news when it happened. I had just turned 11 a few weeks before and can remember from what I had seen, being scared to go to school the next day. It is something I will never ever forget and those poor defenceless children will never be forgotten.
@JonosBtheMC
@JonosBtheMC 2 жыл бұрын
These days in Scotland, you need a licence to own an air rifle. Meanwhile London has a serious problem with pistols, because wierdly criminals don't bother with licences. Fortunately, schools all over the UK started taking security seriously. Until then, entry gates were left open all day, CCTV was rare, there really was nothing to stop loonies wandering in off the streets.
@JimDean002
@JimDean002 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean. The coward police in uvalde Texas are all over the news this week because of their inaction. And yet every single weekend in Chicago this thing is happening. But because they're not suburban kids it doesn't make it all over the news and nobody gets any outrage up.
@cezra833
@cezra833 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The air rifle licensing came in because a small boy was killed with one. It's fairly easy to get an air rifle or a shotgun though. You just have to provide justification, not have a criminal record or history of violence. Justification is needed but it's just to prevent them being in the cities, in the countryside all the farmers have guns and hunters can keep rifles in a club or hire them for hunting.
@antoindearg5614
@antoindearg5614 Жыл бұрын
Remember the day well. I was in 5th Year at high school in Motherwell, Scotland. My friend and myself went up in his car to my Mum's work at lunchtime to grab a bite to eat (a shop that sold hot and cold food) and as we walked in the women that worked there were all in floods of tears, the man who ran it looked in shock. The full details were starting to filter out on the radio. The place was busy, but came to a complete standstill. It took me a while to process the info, it just seemed so unbelievable, bizarre, unreal. Dunblane is a lovely wee place, but will forever only bring one thing to people's minds when it's mentioned.
@johneeeemarry34
@johneeeemarry34 Жыл бұрын
I remember that shop! It sadly went out of business because it didn’t sell medium temperature food.
@jackkruese4258
@jackkruese4258 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what makes monsters like Hamilton think and act but a psychologist from the US said recently that these monsters shouldn’t be named, following a massacre, because that gives them the infamy they crave and spawns copy cat killers.
@letsdiscussitoversometea8479
@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 Жыл бұрын
But you've idea enough to call him "monster". How is that??
@AhmedZNemsMan
@AhmedZNemsMan 3 ай бұрын
It's the first time for me to hear about such incident ; it's awful, so many innocent ones gone 😢.
@margaretswan9597
@margaretswan9597 Жыл бұрын
My son was 2 months old when this happened. I just watched the news cuddling him and sobbing my heart out, wondering what had I done bringing a child into this world. 😭😭😭
@CdEmm50
@CdEmm50 Жыл бұрын
Over population is so selfish.
@Andione.
@Andione. Жыл бұрын
Me & my wife are from nelson in lancashire & we stayed at the old church in dunblane for new year eve hogmanay in 2019 & we went to the cemetery & primary school & we looked at each of the headstones of the children & Mrs mayor as a mark of respect & we 10:07 laid a big bunch of flowers down on Mrs mayors resting place as a gesture of love for them all ❤️ xx
@adamguest7869
@adamguest7869 Жыл бұрын
Was in yr6 at primary school when this happened, I remember being picked up by my mum and given the biggest hug n kisses in front of my mates and being embarrassed by her being overly motherly. As a parent now I’d be exactly the same with my kids.
@raquelnunes9793
@raquelnunes9793 Жыл бұрын
I was the same age as most of the lil kids. Just turned 5. They would have been in their early 30s now. What a monster.
@traceyharrison973
@traceyharrison973 Жыл бұрын
My son was 5 years old when this happened and at infant school . After this tragedy they put special locks on all the door that allowed you into the school .xxxx
@jobonney7987
@jobonney7987 2 жыл бұрын
So, sad. Fcking broke my heart. Your work is magnificent, binge watching is so easy with u, Your channel is going to grow exponentially. London calling xxx
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