There Are No Innocence, Not Anymore 🥶 | Castlevania 🏯 | Dracula x Alucard

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[@DusanMadzarevic]

Killing Dracula's wife was a killing-John-Wick's-dog level fuckup

[@weridify]

Where there people not involved yes does he care no@

[@therealslimshady6763]

John Wick selectively chased the ones responsible Dracula just wanted to channel his anger nothing else

[@jalenikezeue4114]

This Why I am on Dracula's side

[@trap784]

@@therealslimshady6763at first it was village the. He wanted to kill all humans

[@ryanwarner5006]

​@@jalenikezeue4114he's an idiot.

[@camilleascencio1316]

Y'all i just realized how Vlad says that there can be no innocent if no one stands against injustice, right hefore Alucard stands before him, that series is so good, i swear

[@issac82983]

fax bruh

[@ainzmerrychristmas2797]

But Alucard is not 100% human...

[@ToastySNXZ]

​@@ainzmerrychristmas2797 it's about the injustice bro, but I get your point

[@PhoenixFires]

​@@ainzmerrychristmas2797 What's your point? Dracula proved himself wrong. Anyone who stood up would die for no reason.

[@empatheticfrog2052]

​@@ainzmerrychristmas2797but he is part human

[@kardulla]

The delivery of "there are no innocents" is just so. Fucking. Perfect.

[@stephenking5852]

What makes it perfect is the rationalization. Anyone could have stopped it, but no one did.

[@cryoblaster8371]

​@@stephenking5852the church wss too powerful for "anyone" to stop it. That's just not how things work, if someone spoke out they would've been ignored or worse. The only person who could've stopped the murder of Dracula's wife would've been the bishop or the arch bishop (the only person there who had more power in the church)

[@papalevan]

​@stephenking5852 that's wrong tho, dracula is so powerful that he has no idea what it's like to be powerless.

[@stephenking5852]

@@papalevan didn’t he used to be human though? The death of his first wife before Lisa is what inspired him to become a vampire.

[@papalevan]

@stephenking5852 yeah he used to be human but even then he was at the top

[@briantaylor9285]

"There *ARE NO INNOCENTS!!!!!!* Not anymore!" Superb voice acting.

[@quillferrell4568]

The voice actor for Dracula was impeccable

[@Gharbad_the_Weak]

His range is incredible. The same dude who screamed this gave us "My boy... I'm... I'm killing my boy. Lisa, I'm killing our boy."

[@levifriesen2299]

Man the voice actor for Dracula did such a phenomenal job, its such a menacing voice that just stands above the rest as *powerful* if that makes sense, like even Death doesn't sound as menacing as he does.

[@sufiiskandar00]

Michael Wincott's Death from Darksiders 2 sounded very menacing, though.

[@seasnaill2589]

I never liked death. In a series where we get to see the villains chew the scene and get to hear all their deep complex motivations and shades of grey morality, the final boss being a skeletor esque two-dimensional 'I WANT DEATH ON A COSMIC SCALE YOU FUCKOS' character was underwhelming.

[@dannybytes]

I agree. It's almost the same as the voice actor of the game symphony of the night especially when he said "human life". I can hear the SOTN's "What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets."

[@NamelessProof]

With how powerful he sounds now is incredible especially when compared to just how tired he sounds by the end, like all the fire, all the rage that pushed him at first just slowly fizzled out until all that was left way a grieving old man ready for the end, while everything else he did was just "the world's longest suicide note" as one character put it. Honestly Dracula is probably one of, if not the most human characters in the show

[@Scp-681]

He voices Dante in Dante’s inferno

[@mitchelburns5549]

Alucard doing the exact thing that Dracula said humanity couldn't, standing up for the innocent. Grief destroyed Dracula and he didn't care anymore about life, he never truly believed all humans to be terrible

[@adriantepes4355]

To a being who's 1000 yrs old and holds knowledge beyond what mankind can ever hope to achieve a 70 yr life is no big deal.

[@markarvembulaquena4606]

Humans betrayed the humanity and Killing for falsely pride

[@thegk-verse4216]

@@adriantepes4355 Where do you think this knowledge came from ? Who wrote the books he has in his library ?

[@adriantepes4355]

@@thegk-verse4216 Who knows? Some might be written by other people while the others might be his own writings. We weren't given the answer to your question in the series. If you tried to explain that the knowledge is mankind's lost knowledge then yes, true it may be. But we still don't know for sure

[@minhtamnguyen3304]

​@@thegk-verse4216 sure as f*ck that it didn't come from the Church, and I believe lots of them come from people burned under the name "Heresy", "Witch",... like his mother

[@sadaderlangga17]

I love how Alucard didnt pull the "Mother will not want you to do this" card. He basically just said that what his dad is about to do is fucked and he should stop even if he has to use force to do it.

[@real_luthor]

Even he knows humanity fucked around and they will find out if he doesn't stop his father. Lisa called it as well.

[@dinokeefe7015]

Yeah i also love this part when he didnt say it, only to say it in another scene lore master

[@Arczi0]

Well, it is perfectly natural counterargument ^^

[@extraaccount4852]

​@@Arczi0 he probably thinks it's overused and I gotta agree with thst

[@Arczi0]

@@extraaccount4852 Me too, but in a sense that's just "reality being a reality" issue. Sentient vertebrates as characters are overused. Where are the interesting narratives employing sentient bugs and amorphous blobs of flesh xD?

[@m.farizakbarhutasuhut3074]

To be fair he gave Wallachia one whole year to say sorry.

[@mywyd]

Didn’t he just give them a year to settle their affairs?

[@Storiaron]

​@@mywyd he """"gave a year"""to assemble his army

[@skr4991]

It wasn't to say sorry it was to settle their affairs meaning no matter what there was no way in hell dracula was going to spare their lifes

[@PaKePo]

​@@skr4991 still, they made no effort to apologize. Not that I blame them. From their perspective, they burnt an alleged witch and what appeared to be the devil himself showed up hurt and enraged to threaten them. That sounds exactly like every story ever in which someone manages to outsmart or hurt the devil or some other evil entity. If anything, that would've reassured them that they did the right thing.

[@skr4991]

@@PaKePo I don't agree with that Because the priest knew what she was and what was the priest doing was wrong but he wanted publicity and fame If u remember conversations btw the demon and priest that ate him

[@Ulkavyn]

“Any one of them could have stood up and said no- we won’t behave like animals anymore, but no.” That hits so hard even 5 years later

[@onilink134]

He says that to his own son who stood up in front of him asking him to not behave like a monster. God the writing of this show is so fucking crisp

[@StolenTheif]

What hits even harder is that the old woman who told him did exactly what he's saying, she walked away and mourned the passing of a good person, even saying it wasn't right

[@rosevalety3408]

Alucard later confronting him by saying "this is the longest suicide note of History" was kinda savage too

[@ashsuna7774]

Im sorry but the fact Vlad said that Lisa was the only reason to stop to his Half-Human son had to hurt on top of Alucards own grief

[@terminallove3531]

I mean,he didn't kill him.

[@darellgreen9202]

​@@terminallove3531he nearly did tho

[@Yoruharu]

@@terminallove3531 he's about to though

[@MOLLY-006]

Damn near ad a stroke reading this mess

[@mad0813]

Vlad doesn't see Alucard as human though he sees him as a vampire

[@lawgx9819]

Vlad doesn't even realize himself why nobody stood up for her, he's doing the exact same thing to Alucard how the church would've done to anyone who defended Lisa

[@lonedemonofdeath666]

Well to be fair humanity brought draculas wrath on themselves

[@Frozenkoldfury]

Strictly speaking, the church couldn't stop *all* of them if they decided to stand up together. Their clever trick is making sure that everyone is to afraid to be the first person to do it. Dracula is right, in that any one of them could have stood up. He's wrong that that one person could change things. It would take a group of people to do it. Part of why I love the show. Even the villains have some understandable qualities.

[@lawgx9819]

@@Frozenkoldfury nobody wants to die you know, you're treating people like they're bullets

[@Frozenkoldfury]

@Lawgx Of course nobody wants to die. I never said it would be easy, or safe.

[@lonewarrior8217]

​@@lawgx9819 But people irl still acted against injustice and hence we see many revolutions in history.

[@Srt_resium]

And then after many deaths vlad realised how empty genocide feels and that there are more people to befriend

[@ampocalypsew3883]

While he had one good friend (which is plenty n my book) he was lost in grief due to his wifes death. She really was his other half

[@onehitkill5816]

No that's not what happened, what happened was when Sypha, Trevor, and Alucard took on Dracual and Alucard fought Dracula again, they fought until they reached Alucards childhood room where after he looked around remembering Lisa and Alucard and how Alucard is the last living tie to Lisa he had and also realizing that he was wrong to try and kill every single human on earth and that's not what Lisa would have wanted.

[@Srt_resium]

@@onehitkill5816 I wasn’t talking about his death more the lesson he learned

[@onehitkill5816]

@@Srt_resium true but I'm pointing out that he didn't really learn any lesson, he just realized something that gave him his sanity back if even only for that brief moment.

[@molybdaen11]

Revenge leave you as a empty husk. There is no satisfaction.

[@kyrusbrightfuljr.2830]

This Dracula is the best Dracula I seen in any movie or anime.. His story and how he express it is so passionate and meaningful. I actually understand Dracula notion and reasoning.🎉

[@Scarshadow666]

Alucard's technically a teenager here, and to be able to say that shows how much the poor dude had to mature after Lisa's death. ToT

[@Joy-zz8wz]

Dracula is literally so used to being powerful that he doesn't understand that some people are powerless.

[@Antidragon-nl7by]

That was a brilliant insight which I hadn't even considered.

[@simonhailom2477]

Plight of the strong

[@abrahamwhite1335]

Great point

[@davidnewcomb7466]

It’s like how a lot of really smart, highly educated people make piss poor trenchers. They can’t grasp how someone might not understand something as they easily as they do.

[@proli0321]

They aren't powerless, they have no authority. They "respect" the authority even if what is does is wrong, when they are have just as much power as them without even realising it.

[@Ankylosau]

Rewatched this and camilla made a good point. He took no precautions to protect her while he was traveling. He knows the humans well and still left her unguarded

[@adriantepes4355]

Right. He could've easily assigned a few monsters to guard her in his absence.

[@halfknight2310]

@@adriantepes4355 not just a few. An army if he needed. Night creatures don’t burn from the Sun either. So they could watch over her 24/7.

[@chriswalker9617]

Very true and thats why it hurts and angers his so much, but also if you had one or more of those flying monsters around you at all times who would come to you for help? They probably think shes with the devil even more then they already did. Not only that but they would think that the monsters would eat them or were the cause of any death within the village. It was probably Lisa that said no to the protection and because he was in love with her and wanted her happy he gave her what she wanted.

[@adriantepes4355]

@@halfknight2310 well idt the church would've been able to handle even one minotaur let alone 10 of them

[@halfknight2310]

@@chriswalker9617 true. Though, aren’t vampires magical? Just cast illusions. Or maybe pick out more humanoid night creatures. Ones who can then be adorned in human armor to hide themselves. Or, they just stick to the shadows. Only coming out if the situation is truly dire

[@blueberrymcphuckerson9821]

Love how he screams it, *_THERE ARE NO INNOCENCE!!!_*

[@Awesomeficationify]

Minor typo from the creator. It's "innocents". Innocence is a concept not a category of people.

[@DJKO12X]

Damn the way he scream reminds me of Dante so much

[@blueberrymcphuckerson9821]

@Kario I prefer him saying "Innocence" over "Innocents". "Innocents" = that only humans no longer have any Innocents among them and they're all guilty to be wiped out. "Innocence" = the very concept/phenomenon of Innocence no longer exists in the world ergo the whole world and everything in it (humans, vampires, animals, etc.) is guilty of needing to be destroyed.

[@simonhailom2477]

​@@DJKO12X dmc?

[@yaksha5228]

@@simonhailom2477 Dante Alighieri from Dante’s inferno

[@JordanVanRyn]

Whoever voiced Dracula in Castlevania really gave so much emotion and betrayal within his voice acting. I mean it’s like he lost his one chance at having happiness because of humans. Losing Lisa made him go “John Wick” style. Plus I even love the interaction with his son during this scene too. It’s a unique dynamic on their views of humanity.

[@johnjk293]

Alucard has his mother's kindness for sure. He is every bit of his mother in terms of the compassion she had.

[@robertoherrera2204]

He gave them a year only to show up and see them celebrating the death of his wife. They didn't just ask for it, they were daring him to.

[@SilverSight92]

Thats what I'm saying, I like Belmont but Dracula was pretty damn right.

[@robertoherrera2204]

@@SilverSight92 I was hoping that the priest would get it worse than what he did. It would've been great if he had been brought to Dracula.

[@SilverSight92]

@@robertoherrera2204 I was hoping the same. He got off easy

[@erikthorvaldsson8755]

And yet Alucard is defending those shits

[@robertoherrera2204]

@@erikthorvaldsson8755 actually he was ok with getting the ones responsible

[@squibbles_]

Funny thing is, Dracula's excuse for there being no innocents is "anyone could've said no," only for him to immediately shut down Alucard's attempts to say "no" to his own murderous plans. He displayed exactly why it's not as simple as "just saying no." No one person, much less a peasant, can stop the powers that be from doing what they want without risking severe punishment. Just as Alucard disagreed with what Dracula was doing, and was simply powerless to stop it at the time, plenty of humans were likely also against the killing of Dracula's wife, and just didn't have the power or courage to speak against the church.

[@adolphgracius9996]

Imagine you have a 12 year old daughter, and then find out a few classmates beat her to death while the rest of the students were either cheering or just watching.... i would burn the whole place, no soul spared

[@jazybomber]

​@@adolphgracius9996good analogy

[@squibbles_]

@adolph gracius pardon my french, but what kind of batshit ridiculous comparison is that? 💀 1. Analogies are meant to explain things in a relatable context, but a 12 y/o getting beat to death at school with a chearing audience and _without_ any staff interference is even crazier than a woman being burnt at the stake in the middle ages for supposed Witchcraft. The latter happened often, the former is some fantasyland type shit that only ever happens in your intrusive thoughts, or in freak incidents. 2. You're pretty much admitting that you'd murder children, even if they didn't directly commit a crime. If that's the case, then I'm questioning if you should even _have_ a daughter in the first place- 3. That's still not comparable to what Dracula did. He didn't just intend to wipe out the town his wife was killed in, he wanted all humans gone. So a more accurate comparison would be you finding out a couple classmates somehow beat your daughter to death while the rest cheered on, and decided that you had to kill every child on Earth because of it, which is even worse-

[@BlueUncia]

​@@adolphgracius9996Imagine you're in that crowd and you also have a child with you. Speaking up puts you both at risk. What would you really do? Let's be honest, most of us are not heroes.

[@cloudftw113]

​@Jazy Bomber It's a pretty bad analogy since one of the classmates getting a teacher to stop the beating wouldn't get said student, and possiblely their family, killed.

[@RoastTurtle2]

Graham McTavish is such a good actor all around. Doesn't matter if it's life action or voice acting, dude puts his heart and soul into every role and I love it

[@GenesisDG]

The voice acting is without a doubt, some of the best we've ever seen.

[@azurev0id615]

Graham McTavish is such a PHENOMENAL Voice Actor…First Dante from Dante’s Inferno and now Dracula..he brought these two to life perfectly.

[@drinksomestew8159]

Kinda ironic that he said anyone of them could have said “no” then there’s Alucard here saying it

[@sauce6746]

Its no against him tho

[@mizulon5413]

And Alucard suffers for it, just like anyone trying to defend Lisa would have suffered. Dracula really proved himself wrong, but he was too far gone to realise it.

[@vondantalingting]

​@@mizulon5413 alucard said no towards Genocide, Vlad said to those who could've stood up against the death of an innocent. It's not the same. One is trying to correct the sin of omission, another the pleading of a hypothetical. Besides, how do you suppose Vlad to truly correct injustice of this magnitude? Or better question, do you know how the people of Lichtenstein dealt with a similar witch-hunt?

[@applebabbleextra5099]

​@@vondantalingting Your powers of understanding juxtaposition is absolutely outstanding. Nobody is saying they are exactly the same situation. Just that the ideas behind what vlad are saying is invalid since just saying "no" is not sufficient to change a bad outcome from happening. Which he demonstrates when somebody said no to him and that didn't change the outcome. Much like how the peasants would equally of not been able to change the outcome in the burning of his wife. As the church much like vlad, is too powerful to be stopped even with people with good intentions Thus proving that punishing them for the crimes of the church was immoral Also a better solution was already supplied by Alucard, just strike those who are responsible and leave the innocent people out of it. I don't know how you would justify a genocide over the actions a few immoral actors.

[@RetroRadianceLight]

@@vondantalingtinghow would Dracula know if anyone stood up to protest? Because if they did, they probably would have gotten burnt at the stake too. Unless you think that a few people standing up to Lisa and dying alongside her would change Dracula’s mind about human genocide (I don’t think he would. He probably would have pushed the threshold and said more people should have stood up or something.)

[@AsakniGames]

Dracula: Your either with me or against me His son: Only a sith deals in absolutes.....I will do what I must

[@RCM1212]

Nice

[@RetroRadianceLight]

Too bad Dracula had the high ground

[@SpiderSamir25]

@@RetroRadianceLight 😂😂😂

[@Del_1710]

"Only a sith deals in absolutes" Is that..... Is that not an absolute itself?

[@omarclunis2466]

@@Del_1710 Yes its a performative contradiction hence why the Jedi are seen as hypocrites in the story

[@RequiemPoete]

It's easy to stand up to evil when you're essentially a demigod.

[@opticalraven1935]

And yet, he doesn't. He was happy to murder people for blood, turned a blind eye to evil, etc. He only cared when it affected him.

[@brøkenINTOheaven]

​@ahmadadnan4773that the problem with the series it is illogical vampire vs human

[@bigred212]

​@ahmadadnan4773cause there trained to fight the unholy regular people not so much

[@MauZangetsu]

@@brøkenINTOheaven The Belmonts have a whole fucking giant library about how to kill the unholy, and a bunch of alchemical weapons to boost. The balance was off, because the monsters had no chance

[@concept5631]

Not just a demigod. He's canonically stronger than Satan and was Death's boss.

[@adventurous6252]

“Anyone of them could have stood up” that infant in the jaws of one of his demons

[@DeltaCain13]

That growl “there are no innocents!” Is chilling.

[@c.d.mcclendon1264]

In other words: I won't accept you becoming what you hate.

[@e-pearlm]

Alucard is his Mother's child and his father never even realized it until it was to late he's litiral the male version of his mother in almost every way

[@giftzwerg7345]

exactly, this makes it even more tragic

[@Waterdust2000]

Performance worthy of a damn oscar, even the argument is worthy of remembrance. Can't find more words for this.

[@lanzsaceda778]

The amount of emotion on that "LIFE" And "THERE ARE NO INNOCENCE" Is just chef's kiss.

[@annapoornaajay8639]

Yes! The VA did a great job!! You can hear the scrapy undertone in his voice - he's trying hard not to cry.

[@namelessstranger1270]

When the animation team and voice actors synergize together perfectly:

[@RAPTOR948]

I understand Vlad's and Adrian's pain, Alucard was the more reasonable one. Find the one who killed her and make him pay personally. That's the best way. Make an example out of the ones who did it, and set the record straight.

[@lonedemonofdeath666]

I personally think alucard should’ve just backed his dad

[@RAPTOR948]

@@lonedemonofdeath666 Then there wouldn't be the dynamic between Alucard and Dracula we fondly remember from the games. I can understand Alucard grieving for his mother, but his method was right. Just go after the asshole who killed his mom. I mean eventually the bishop did get killed for his actions, ironically in a church because the demons lurking about knew he was a lying good-for-nothing prideful self-serving sinner and blasphemer who thought he could become the church, Also his body gets cremated because his body was used to turn an entire river into holy water for Carmilla's attempt at a coup. But still, I think Dracula would have felt better knowing he killed the bastard who killed his wife using his own two hands.

[@lonedemonofdeath666]

@@RAPTOR948 I get it and your right them being on opposite sides makes for a hell of a story, but I would’ve pulled Dracula and I wouldn’t have even given them a day to get affairs in order

[@bigdomkook]

And turn them into Martyrs. Imbed their superstition, make them hunt you.

[@giftzwerg7345]

@@lonedemonofdeath666 no, he is the mix of dracula and his mother, and he definitly got his mothers heart, (hes also half human) so ofc he opposes his fathers plan. I mean dracula just lost it, his revenge is basicly a discrace on his wife, she d be turning in her grave at his acctions. But i guess it was her that controlled the moster in him and brought his heart out, and with her he lost the conection to it

[@edwardnigma1013]

The more trippy thing is us humans agreeing with dracula to commit mass genocide 😭

[@Stuffinround]

Yeah fr, we all wanted to see our race get absolutely washed

[@heromusashiz3508]

Ain't the first time this happend

[@serencefrostbite3362]

Isaac is that you?

[@muntadar1655]

It's literally a show written by humans, where most human characters who meet Isaac and interact with others happen to be assholes (convenient) and it only took barely 3 people to convince him otherwise Then you have dracula hunting down and slaughtering humans in the hundreds like what did you expect lol

[@aidanforman5950]

​@@muntadar1655 i would have worked with Dracula.

[@MegaManDBZX]

Dracula: That woman was the only reason for me to tolerate humans. Alucard: Wow, Dad. Really?

[@dankestbears5308]

All of the voice acting in this show is exceptional at every point, but Vlads gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it, " I am vlad tepes, and I have had enough"

[@SlothinAintEasy]

Children in castlevania be like: the heck did I do I’m 6

[@snintendog]

Celebrated a wrongful death with your parents.

[@daylenraines6351]

How he yells there are no innocents is filled with so much rage

[@Nightout88]

He is absolutely right they had multiple chances to do something, anything! from apologizing to him to just flat out leaving the city, to respecting her grave to standing up for her and saying this is wrong. He gave them MORE then enough time i wouldnt blaime him for razing that city to the ground.

[@luckyescandon8109]

Yeah then the issue is that he goes after all other countries rendering the whole leaving thing pointless. And irs mentioned that people did plead with vlad, but he had them killed anyway. The one year wasnt to repent and hope for forgiveness, it was a " you are all dying in one year no matter what you do"

[@Warrior.king300]

That voice acting is top tier. Making me wanna rewatch this series all over again

[@richardt2332]

10/10 voice acting in Castlevania

[@AM90715]

As Arthur Morgan would say"revenge is a fool's game"

[@rDracoMb]

Ahhh Draculas voice actor, the same as Dante in Dante’s Inferno is as almost the guy is always angry love the voice ❤️‍🔥

[@davidevans7477]

He is right... and you know he was watching the whole year.

[@Lazyguy143]

Only partially. Anybody who would've defended his wife would've most likely been killed alongside her.

[@corswaincaptain-paladinoft4067]

The line delivery of there are no innocents was well done. Voice actors ftw

[@_lordphoenix]

Alucard is the stand against injustice vlad speaks of. Even though it was late for vlads grief

[@user-lg5xu6id5j]

Amazing VA work all throughout the show

[@rainbowdash4898]

That statement: There are no innocents. That hits hard.

[@sideeggunnecessary]

Dracula is into collective punishment

[@natebug1976]

the voice acting in this show is sooo goooood

[@juliantapia1407]

I occasionally forget just how DAMN GOOD dracula's voice actor was

[@PrinceOfChange]

“There is no such thing as innocence, only varying levels of guilt.” -Perturabo? (Might have been Curze idk)

[@RetroRadianceLight]

It’s the inquisition actually

[@Dovahkiin049]

Vlad doesn’t seem to understand exactly why no one stood up and said no. It’s because the church would’ve simply burned them next. There are innocents, just too many that are gullible and too few that aren’t.

[@BlackStar-hy1iy]

Not if they all got together

[@Theoneandonly-gy9fo]

​@BlackStar-hy1iy And how much would have agreed with not buring someone at the stake? Do people forget not everyone was a heroic paragon when it came to witch trials. You would have to literally gamble your life to stop this, and HOPE that other people work against the people in charge, who literally claimed "divine powers" allowed them to kill (which people were obsessed with to insane degrees). Fighting against injustice like this isn't as simple as you people claim it is.

[@RetroRadianceLight]

@@BlackStar-hy1iywould you gladly give up your life and die if it means you died with your ideals intact? If you can’t say yes to that, don’t expect others to do the same. Especially if they have a family.

[@benjamintracey6685]

@@Theoneandonly-gy9fo there is always a way.

[@DreamersOfReality]

You're just a coward. There are countless people who do it around the world everyday.

[@wanderingbufoon]

I love how Alucard has no rebuttal for Dracula's "there are no innocence" line because it's true. The bystanders were just as much at fault because they knew better but chose to let it happen.

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Or it's because Alucard knows that its pointless to argue if his father can't see reason.

[@hoeujdmghsnhdhxj9945]

Alucards doing the exact same thing dracula wanted the humans to do so he kind off proved alucards point by beating him

[@hoeujdmghsnhdhxj9945]

If the humans stood up to the church they would've been killed just like how dracula attempted to kill alucard for standing up to him

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

@hoeujdmghsnhdhxj9945 Even if that's true, I can't help but wonder; if just knowing people tried to stop the Church, even if they failed, would be enough to not make Dracula lose his s*it. He was more pi**ed about the fact no one stopped the Church than the actual murder of his wife. If people had stood up for his wife and were killed doing so and Dracula knew that. Then, he might have recognized that humans aren't all evil. They want change, but the dogmatic chokehold the Church has on Wallacia makes it next to impossible. Thus would probably launch a war only against the Church, probably religion itself to stop more needless suffering from it.

[@wanderingbufoon]

@@TimberlakeTigerGirl take it as you wish to interpret it but the show was detailed enough to give us context. Alucard was angry but he is honoring his mother's last wish. Dracula had been more reasonable enough. It isn't Dracula's anger that was being highlighted here but the differences of how to honor Liza's memories. Dracula's anger and grief is highlighted in S2. Not in S1. This is the reason why the 1st episode showed the interaction of the priest and mayor and how the mayor tried to defend her case but was too fearful on being on the wrong side of the corrupt priest. This is also the reason why they shown the old lady was spared. Why a jealous medicine woman reported Liza to the church and why they were even given a 1 year grace period only to celebrate her demise. Context were all given that Dracula wasn't some grief-striken monster looking to spill blood because he was hurt. Remember, Dracula was a recluse before he met Liza. It meant that he tolerated and left humans alone to their own devices. The whole concept of her telling him to touch grass and see the world and its people, etc. Dracula wasn't being unreasonable with all of these contexts involved. Had it just been Liza dying and he immediately razed the city, then it would be that way

[@mertruc.5242]

The shot was so cleannon alucard that the light back at him shows him like an angel

[@christopherdowns4270]

The voice actors were absolutely perfect. Dracula’s delivery here is utter gold.

[@ktk75ll]

"Anyone could have stood up and said no. We're not savages." They would have been burnt alongside her for defending a witch. The irony of it all is that Dracula is the same as the church. Just as how Alucard was put down when trying to defend innocents, anyone who would have tried to defend Lisa would have been put down by the church. Dracula is a powerful entity, so he does not understand the powerlessness of others. He became the thing he hated.

[@vondantalingting]

People who were burnt by the Church in large numbers were also martyred and caused changes . Ever heard of Joan of Arc? The Latin inquisition? The Cathars? What did the hundreds of Deaths do to the western world that still linger now all because they stood up?

[@RetroRadianceLight]

And if anyone did stand up for Lisa and died alongside her, no doubt Dracula would dismiss them and continued on with his genocide. He was looking for any excuse for his grief.

[@DreamersOfReality]

An excuse for cowardice. Truth is, plenty of people have risen up against injustice. Many were punished, many won their fights. Just standing by while monsters carry out their will, is being complicit. Your intentions are irrelevant in the face of your actions. While the humans of Wallachia were not innocent, as Dracula claims, neither did they deserve extermination. Just making that clear.

[@snintendog]

@@RetroRadianceLight No he would further Fuel his hatred through that. Remember the ONLY ONE to grieve his wife was protected AND Spared. This is a parallel of Sodom. Find the one good man and spare the city. VS Find the Good men and i shall Spare them. Drac took the second route... THEN he went OLD TESTAMENT on their asses.

[@robinjameson4261]

There is one point I've always thought about this setup that he's making. So a couple of individuals, a small village, but let's say the entire country are guilty for what was done to her. There are individuals throughout the world that never even heard what happened to her and yet he's going after them. He himself with all his powers did not know what happened. Could not stop them, but apparently every single human on the in the planet that don't have his power that don't have his wisdom that don't have any of what he could do are held responsible when he couldn't have done it himself. Many of the points he made were very well put together but that one point was straight trash.

[@opticalraven1935]

I find it funny that Dracula never cared about this shit until it directlt affected him.

[@thelouster5815]

There is a concerning amount of people who watched this show that agree with committing genocide.

[@truly-oni3945]

i would have done the same to Wallachia, but I'd have just killed only those related to the church, and spared those who couldn't or didn't want to fight.

[@Nai-qk4vp]

They do not agree, you simpleton. They grieve with Dracula and feel with him his anger at the bigotry of the church. But they do not endorse his genocidal plans. They are Alucard in this. They grieve with him, but they will not stand for genocide.

[@truly-oni3945]

@@onceafetus426 Yeah, but dracula doesn't realize most people didn't actually want Lisa to die. Also, that would require all of those really poor people to abandon everything they'd worked for. It's easy to get another job nowadays, but just relocating altogether is still a really difficult thing to do even today. Also, dracula tried to put Alucard through the same thing the church did to all those people. I mean, I think dracula went a little too far with trying to kill all humans.

[@MikeHunt-zy3cn]

There's people in the comments advocating extermination of all humans as of current. I hope they're put on a watch list and denied any form of political power.

[@MikeHunt-zy3cn]

​@@truly-oni3945 at least that makes sense. Destroy the perpetrators. Not those who couldn't do anything, or didn't even know what was happening.

[@samker7758]

Ngl the VA killed it. Elegance, rage and grief at the same time.

[@raunjisto2925]

Alucard was pretty reasonable here. He even said that if his dad should just go after the ones responsible for her murder. That’s more than a lot of modern superheroes would do. Alucard was very level-headed. Can’t just stand up against those events without being sent to death as well. It was horrible, but it’s a lot to ask for some people who had families to provide for.

[@somedude1529]

I feel like they both a good point here even if Alucard has a kinda better point. Tons of innocent people will die bc Dracula claims no one is innocent. However anyone could have definitely said stop maybe this is wrong. Though at the time, churches seem to have a tight grip on society so even if someone did stand up for Lisa they’d be labeled a witch as well.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

Thats the faulty way of thinking we see today:"if not all germans were on hitlers side, why didnt they rise up?" Because they were the minority and would've been executed along with their families if they did, in other countries where the nazi frip wasn't as tight (Italy, France and Poland being prime examples), the partisans fought tooth and nails to push them back, in italy they liberated many towns on their own against tremendous odds

[@PhoenixFires]

Injustice happens all the time in the real world. Is it reasonable for people to torture YOU and your family to death because you didn't stop it?

[@AnarexicSumo]

Alucard is literally almost killed for standing up to Dracula and he’s so dense he doesn’t realize the same would have happened to anyone who stood up for Lisa.

[@Antidragon-nl7by]

There was a darn good reason for the Church's grip on society (apart from power and fear); it was the only source of medicine, education, and protection against tyrannical overlords the common man or woman had access to at the time (and let's not forget how important spirituality was in such a bleak and difficult existence).

[@jessep3571]

Except God exists in that worod and he punishes incredibly harshly.

[@sage5830]

Everyone-Take notes… Dracula is stating absolute facts about humanity

[@smt3]

Isn't that an absolute in and of itself?

[@Masi_vibez]

Vlad: “ANYONE OF THEM COULD HAVE STOOD UP AND SAID NO” Alucard: *literally standing up in front of Vlad to stop him from unjustly killing humans who weren’t involved in the unjust killing of his wife* “no” Vlad: “okay but this is different”

[@moxxie_ivan5952]

I felt that when he said “ That woman was the only reason for me to TOLERATE HUMAN LIFE!!”

[@JuliBom]

And this is why Castlevania will always be in my top 5. The voice acting and eveeything about this was peak perfection and bone chilling

[@TyrooShino]

"There are no innocent" is referring not to the people alone, but himself. He knows what he's doing is out right wrath, but he deems is necessary.

[@natman2939]

he acts like his wife was the only innocent human being and that people too scared to stand up for fear they too could be killed are just as guilty. That is a good portrayal of madness.

[@lonedemonofdeath666]

No it’s not it shows how the only reason he believed humanity deserves to exist is because of his dead wife

[@I-need-2-win]

​@@lonedemonofdeath666 considering he probably stopped killing people. Fall in love, has a family and a house and was living a normal life I'd say yeah, that's clearly madness

[@TakeMeAway70]

This Show is soooo good😊

[@FreedomAtLast845]

I agree

[@deoxysoverlord8710]

Dracula's voice actor needs a raise. I don't care what he got paid, it isn't enough.

[@Grandmaster-m2v]

Before I knew the light shined figure to be Alucard, I of it thought first to be angels sent from heaven.

[@GeorgeCowsert]

If Dracula just brought up how he gave Wallachia time, he would've had a point.

[@TheAbyssal]

He gave them time to accept their death while he preped his army. "Get your affairs in order"

[@RetroRadianceLight]

They wouldn’t have gotten far enough to get away from Dracula’s night army as they spread well beyond the city

[@ashutoshkumar-is7dj]

Dracula

[@achannelhasnoname5182]

Vlad is pretty egoistic here. Doesn't he realize that Alucard lost her own mother? Yet he is the one who still defends humans?

[@pooyaarsalany4299]

he has more history with humans than alucard.

[@jlmop-fc8lv]

​@@pooyaarsalany4299 blablahblah excuses.He said they were no more innocent. How were babies and kids supposed to stand up for her? Because he k11led them too. And even.If people had try to defend her they would have been k1ll2d as witches too. The character is just dishonest and hypocrite.

[@sparrowisback5019]

​@@jlmop-fc8lv maybe by not participating in an innocent women's death like that old lady dracula spared her he might have spared others too killing only the responsible well it was eye for an eye situation right or wrong wasn't important to dracula at that moment since they took his loved one he will take theirs innocent or not doesn't matter

[@thatoneguy2816]

​@@sparrowisback5019ok but what are you supposed to Do against the church? disagree and risk getting killed yourself as you also quite possibly have family. not everyone is the hero, not everyone has a voice and if they did they would be silenced.

[@sparrowisback5019]

@@thatoneguy2816 like i said before by not participating they might have gotten killed if they opposed the church but they weren't forced to be present in the death of an innocent women They could have refuse to be part of something like that by not participating like that old lady Being a neutral is also an option

[@dysnomia34A]

"I won't let you commit genocide" *Immediately gets his chest ripped open*

[@Sauce_finder]

Automatically heard the first sentence as "What did you mean Nuh uh?"

[@GreebleClown]

Okay, sure, any one of them could have stood up and said “no.” And then they’d have likely burned alongside her. What about that old lady that mourned her, do you really think she could have done anything to stop a bunch of zealots? By all means, kill the zealots, but give the ordinary people an actual chance to be good.

[@chriswalker9617]

Thats why he told her to pack up her family and leave, it was his last fuck to give and he gave it to the old woman who showed remorse for Lisa's death.

[@jessep3571]

God doesn't work like that in this show. Bystanders are basically condemned.

[@RetroRadianceLight]

@@jessep3571there is no God in this version of Castlevania. Only devils

[@DreamersOfReality]

The church can't kill everyone. Oppressive institutions only have power, because they divide. They make dissenters feel alone and powerless, when people aren't. Individuals can't fight such power, but a quarter of the town? If a quarter, a third, of the town had decided they'd had enough, then it would be different.

[@franklyfanladying6016]

*SPOILER* The first two seasons broke my heart. When Dracula stopped fighting Alucard and let him win because he couldn’t hurt his son. The greatest gift from his beloved wife.

[@kishusharma-bw7yc]

Anime name please

[@franklyfanladying6016]

@@kishusharma-bw7yc Castlevania

[@franklyfanladying6016]

@@kishusharma-bw7yc Castlevania

[@KayKwasa]

This is one of the rare times I agree with both Alucard and Dracula; Alucard wants to punish the one person who killed his mother, Dracula also makes a valid point that anyone in Wallachia could have stood up for Lisa, but no one did.

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

What exactly was a person in Braila for example supposed to do? Braila is on the other side of Wallacia from Targoviste.

[@--------04]

​@@TimberlakeTigerGirlyeah, like they didn't even know what was happening, and both him and Alucard would have stopped it from happening if they knew so he should understand that

[@armoredshrek4754]

Why is no one talking about the voice actor This is GOD level voice acting Respect to him🎉

[@chronoallusion3172]

Alucard loved his dad, he was just grieving too. You can hear it in his voice, he didnt want his dad to suffer more. " find the one" thats what he should have done

[@alyshasocie6120]

What about the children and babies? The priest also had too much power over the people. One person wouldn’t have been enough. Especially if it was a woman. It took a long time for us to be taken seriously. Anyway the people who would’ve stood up were probably too afraid to say anything, worried they’d be next. Almost no one deserves to die like that. 😢

[@Nevae_696]

Yes no one talks about the hundreds of children teens he condemn to being mald to death like that night creature Trevor saw at the beginning ate baby

[@Nevae_696]

@@gaelurquiz5755 Was it crossfire when he sent those night creatures to city Trevor, Cipher, Alucard met at, was crossfire when he planing to whip out humanity in the entire country, that’s some big ass crossfire.

[@Nevae_696]

@@gaelurquiz5755 What no Wallachia wasn’t celebrating his wife death the city that killed her was celebrating that was one city, everyone else was just minding their own business.

[@Nevae_696]

@@gaelurquiz5755 Then why are we having this conversation, all said was he killed a bunch of kids teens and nobody seems care about that.

[@SMmania123]

*"Then find the one who did the deed!"* that line goes needless hard. That should've been the first thing he done.

[@AnyHeroBlake]

The rage behind “there are no innocents! Not anymore!” is so very compelling. Everything about Castlevania is masterclass.

[@ForsakenSniper747]

"You have been doomed since you lost the ability to love."

[@michaelvalencia5211]

Dracula's right you can't count on ANYONE to do the right thing. But those men, women and children that didn't do anything to her don't deserve it either.

[@Ashroller22]

Dracula’s VA just amazing

[@seantaintor7261]

This and the demon dog talking to the bishop in the foresaken church are by far my two favorite scenes in this entire series.

[@Nyx-xh6kz]

Draculas voice actor is phenomenal. You can feel the pain, hate, and disgust when he yells, “There are no innocents!”.

[@Dayhawk101]

Just as Alucard said to Richter in Symphony of the Night on one of the many endings. "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph. Is for good men to do nothing." And Richter responding "I understand.."

[@RellyYu]

alucard stay dripped out to get his ahh whipped 😂

[@aidanmullard8508]

Its such a great scene. We see the anger and grief in vlad. We see the pain turn a rational man into a hypocritical fool. We see the distance between vlad and alucards relationship. So much character and story with so few words.

[@trentonvinet7956]

The voice acting in this show was golden

[@Shageru47]

Dracula the proceeded to give a parental disciplining that makes even the sternest of fathers shiver.

[@rmitch7r]

Alucard probably knew he’d get his shit pushed in, and still tried to stand up anyway. What a badass mf

[@BLK_pharaoh]

Excellent casting!! A voice of pain, anger, swirling into madness over his loss. Illustrating a being who was brought to the complete edge of their tolerance for ignorance.

[@mattygee6852]

Fuck. Holy. Fuck This is such a great interaction with both being entirely right I can only dream to make dialog as good as this