There Are NO Robot Kids in Security Breach! (Proof)

Like I say in the video, even with the books this evidence is pretty shaky.
I think I'm pretty thorough in this one. If anyone is revealed to be a robot, then that is some next level misleading story telling.
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[@hedgie_doll2314]

I really like matpat's theories because they are very creative, not necessarily because I believe they are correct. He is a very creative person and that really shows in all his very out there takes on fnaf

[@siresquawks]

He’s also a great storyteller, even his bad theories feel like they could be true the way he presents them.

[@arandomthingintheabyss2062]

@@siresquawks like the entire the knight is the pale king from hollow knight

[@343flyingbulb4]

@@siresquawks He would be a great Snake oil salesman

[@itzYonko]

@@siresquawks I am still convinced of the sans is ness theory and I don't understand how he got so much flake for that video.

[@hassanrao470]

@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 tbf in that case, he just leaves out dialogue that explicitly says he’s wrong (then cites some of that dialogue lol). But he makes it really entertaining to watch both before and after I knew it was wrong. He makes theories for views which is fine because he puts a lot of work to make them entertaining

[@ngabel8956]

If there were robot kids, then Security Breach has done an unnecessarily terrible job in setting them up.

[@siresquawks]

That’s what I said at the end

[@GlitchItUp4031]

Like the missing children plot.

[@sonicfan4511]

Wouldn't be the only thing Security Breach does a terrible job at.

[@caldercockatoo2234]

Wouldn't be surprising honestly.

[@orange_turtle3412]

Thank you. Robot children suck. If Freddy can see Gregory’s robotic innards with roxy’s eyes, why cant we see the robotic innards of chica or monty when playing as Freddy with roxy’s eyes.

[@FunWare.mp4]

Ok this is something I was thinking too, 100% freddy would see monty and everybodys endo, AND if freddy saw gregorys endo or circuits or what ever wouldnt he go,"MY GOD GREGORY YOUR A ROBOT??" Or smt along the lines of "You have a endo!", if they wanted to make that the point then they should have said so.

[@joshuanorman2]

Roxy's eyes are also supposed to see through walls. You cannot do that in game. This specific point can be chocked up to development cuts

[@smashers6971]

Honestly the implication of Burntrap being able to hack Glamrock Freddy by placing his hand on a screen just makes me think that it’s not Afton returning from the dead, but Glitchtrap possessing the body that Vanny created, idk I feel it works better than just “William Afton: Technomage.” It really kind of shows how underutilized Glitchtrap was as an entity in this big game.

[@siresquawks]

yeah. Burntrap does have some organic tissue so he's not purely mechanical, but I do think it's more of a reconstruction.

[@josardoleon6894]

No idea, William research says that remenant looses its effect when heated, but the blob is still there after FFPS fire, William might not have died, but the body/animatronic was completely unusable, or maybe he did die and glitchtrap and vanny are trying to transfer a copy of his consciousness.

[@ivon1671]

It makes sence when you don't think of Burntrap as a human, but a virus. He's still able to infect everything around him, just like when he was in a program.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Glitchtrap is a copy of his consciousness and the Blob could be an entity of Agony which isn't destroyed by heat like remnant.

[@orange_turtle3412]

I think theres considerable evidence to back up the theory that glamrock bonnie was combined with the now lifeless springtrap suit to create burntrap, and that burntrap is not william himself but rather a physical vessel which glitchtrap has taken control of. Notice the fact that he possesses multiple similarities with the unique pizzaplex endoskeletons. He resembles one of them much more than he does an endo 01 or other older design. He also emerges from a pizzaplex animatronic charging station. That station was not there during the operation of pizza place. It was deliberately brought from the pizzaplex down underground for the purpose of charging burntrap’s endo form. I assume old endos arent compatible with new pizzaplex chargers, providing further evidence that burntrap is at least partially a pizzaplex animatronic. Also, if burntrap was possessed by a soul, why would he need a charger? I dont think souls require their host animatronic to be charged in order to move it around (otherwise dealing with them would be much simpler). However an actual, non-possessed animatronic operating off actual electronics rather than the influence of a soul, would need to be charged in order to function. Glitchtrap is a digital entity. He wouldnt be able to interact with anything not electronically powered, as he requires a computer to house him. The fact that burntrap is a rabbit makes sense with bonnie because, because of their shared shape, bonnie’s endo would be more compatible with the similarly shaped spring bonnie bot. So maybe vanny took out and dismantled glamrock bonnie and used his endo to upgrade william’s old, now lifeless, body because the glitchtrap virus controlling her wants to retain its previous form.

[@sulphurspanic26]

honestly, the biggest factor in favor of the robot doppelganger/clone theories is that scott's a huge scifi nerd and as evidenced by the biography of a yogi audio clip, might consider robotic or artificial life just as valid as organic life, but that's entirely meta/doyalist reasoning so i personally don't count it. Edit: and with hindsght that autobiography of a yogi quote about metal being alive, might in universe be an Afton quote, specifically because it cuts "the joy of creative service" down to "the joy of creat-"/the joy of creation which sounds like a quote a sci fi mad scientist like afton would say.

[@SouthernRam]

Well that and the fact a child size body is folding into a robot. Thought Gregory being a robot explained that away. Otherwise it's a meat and flesh kid contorting to fit inside Freddy, no?

[@sulphurspanic26]

@@SouthernRam realistically that's pretty odd, but we know the fun times use a similar mechanism for child trapping and the book equivalents do the same, so the Freddy cheat cavity might also be designed with kidnapping children in mind. For what purpose? Well the new afton CEO needs to get new remnant from somewhere right? Remnant has to come from somewhere and most of the old batch was likely destroyed in the Pizza Simulator fire. To add on to that

[@ediblefredible]

honestly, when it comes to fnaf i think theorists would benefit a LOT from more doylism. like the whole vibe of john fuhnaff's vid about "into madness is what we've currently been playing", we need more of that lol. like, imo when people are trying to go back and solve the "old" lore again, they should be looking at the games from scott's perspective and theorize what story he was trying to tell at the *time*...and go from there

[@whenthemoon]

@@sulphurspanic26 In fairness, i don’t think comfort was exactly at the forefront of Afton’s mind when designing the kidnapping mechanics. Gregory should probably still be complaining about it being uncomfortable, even if it was designed to hold kids

[@FunWare.mp4]

@@SouthernRam Ehh, I just think it was a design choice on steel wools part, The same reason why I think the crc static gregory sees when near vanny is just meerly a design choice

[@raelogan]

Side note, but I absolutely love the idea that William would take the opportunity to, while buried in someone's brain, to just pull up Google to look up tutorials on mind control and not even use Incognito or at least clear the history, not realizing that A) The internet is monitored at the establishment, B) Literally anyone in the history of ever who has tried to Google questions pertaining to thier crime usually get outed by thier web history, and C) William probably stumbled on some weird DeviantArt stuff. He probably would have been better off with a library.

[@DiogenesofMashad]

He died in the 1990's. I don't think he knows how browser history works

[@raelogan]

@@DiogenesofMashad That just makes it even funnier, like, old man is literally trapped in the past and probably thinks computers are for nerds and real men build real robots or something cliche like that. Out-of-Touch William and his blunder with leaving a good review on a website on how helpful that was with assisting him with his master plan to achieve immortality and that he's definitely bookmarking that page once he figures out how to work the blasted thing. Then he clicks an ad link for a "Viking Blood Eagle Twelve-Month Calendar".

[@DiogenesofMashad]

@@raelogan i just woke up to see this in my notifications and yeah its funny asf

[@ZirconiaGacha]

Bro is going to find something of himself somewhere (DeviantArt or otherwise) and wonder how it got there

[@XD-yn6hb]

The Deviantart thing is especially true since the FNAF animatronics are mascots in the FNAF universe and have lots of ship or really weird fanart

[@dumbestbelll]

I like the idea of no robot kids. It makes me feel like I can pretend they’re moving on with the story

[@angrysonicbird6779]

That was 90% of Matpat's initial theories when the game came out. Try and stick a Robot Child into the games and double down when people call you out. Nothing on trying to clear the Vanny and Vanessa stuff, the Blob, Burntrap, the secret BB game, the therapy tapes, NOTHING!

[@vbbrothers]

I'm happy that there are people who see new characters as new characters with further story potential

[@an-animal-lover]

What a revolutionary idea (sarcasm)

[@slushiiix4287]

I've already seen people theorize that the DLC girl is a robot guys not everyone in security breach has to be a robot

[@Tigerrocked]

EXACTLY, it’s like can’t have new characters anymore

[@warnpeace5294]

I believe Funafs theory that Gregory isn’t an animatronic human yet. But was selected to be the replacement for William Afton’s plot to rebuild his version of a perfectly family.

[@ZirconiaGacha]

I love how "yet" is in there, like if Gregory gets caught he's gonna just wake up later and slowly realize something's off

[@sleepyspacefrog]

afton is gonna pull an eleanor

[@toddbrooke1604]

If I'm not mistaken, Gregory has a bandaid on his cheek. Which, from a robots point of view, could make Freddy believe that Gregory is broken. Maybe we should be wondering how/why Gregory got that bandaid. Who knows? One of the FNAF games, a HUGE clue/focus point was around why/how Toy Chica lost her beak. But HEY, THATS JUST A THEORY.... MY THEORY!!! Thanks for reading.

[@irladovelasquez975]

Remember there's cut dialogue said that gregory cut his arm and Freddy detected Gregorys blood so Freddy takes Gregory to first aid and probably Gregory put on bandaid on his cheek and his leg so probably steel wool cut a scene where gregory puts on bandaid

[@hudsonthejojo2825]

It kinda just feels like almost every protagonist/significant human in a FNaF game is doomed to the robot theory. Personally they always feel like copouts, like we have these brand new characters that could have their own interesting backgrounds, is them being a robot really the only way they can be interesting?

[@soomi5667]

I guess it's good the same didn't happened to Micheal haha. But fr when it comes to our recent human characters, I'd rather them be human than robot.

[@hudsonthejojo2825]

@@soomi5667 It actually did happen to Michael as well, "Mikebot" was a very popular theory, especially cuz of Matpat. It's hardly brought up these days, but it was pretty much the start of this whole trend.

[@soomi5667]

@@hudsonthejojo2825 Oh shit you're right! idk how I forgot lol 😭

[@spookyscaryskeleton3513]

​@@hudsonthejojo2825 Mikebot, I remember that, it was supposed an extra theory that could make more sense to Mikevictim.

[@hudsonthejojo2825]

@@spookyscaryskeleton3513 Yeah, kinda glad those theories are basically dead.

[@FTZPLTC]

tbh the main reason they're pushing for robot kids is because then characters who are ostensibly human can be declared to "be" characters that have already been in the games before. Like, it's weird: people groaned about William Afton showing up again, like they desperately want the series to move on... but then it presents new characters with actual names, and we're like "THAT IS DEFINITELY CRYING CHILD SOMEHOW".

[@siresquawks]

I feel like theorist in general will make any theory before simply waiting for the reveal, and that's true for all communities with theorizing. But Fnaf's gotten ridiculous with it at times.

[@FTZPLTC]

@@siresquawks - Well yeah, and that's part of the point of theorising. And it's not like it *really* matters if you end up being proved wrong. tbh I just don't get why it's so important for the game to only have about five characters in it.

[@ivon1671]

I find it funny how so many people say they want Afton to go, but they still completely lose their shit in excitement whenever they see him again.

[@cryofpaine]

Two reasons for that that I can see. First, we know what happens to William. His end is definitive (until they get him out *somehow*). He is killed in a springlock suit. Then he's killed again in a fire. Then he's trapped in Hell forever. Then he's killed again in another fire. Each time marked an end to his story, until they decide to bring him back. What we don't have are definitive ends for any of the other characters. What happens to all those souls possessing the animatronics? Some are released, but others aren't quite so clear cut. The second reason is because the evidence we do have makes these being random human characters less likely. Gregory's design looking like Evan's. Weak, but it feels deliberate. And the post-it room. If they're human, it's a kid who at the same time can't even write or draw, but can speak fluent binary? And if it's 46 (which seems likely) is also a master hacker and manipulator? Seems unlikely for a child who is being slowly infected by Glitchtrap, but does feel appropriate for a robot who is slowly becoming more human.

[@FTZPLTC]

@@cryofpaine "Gregory's design looking like Evan's. Weak, but it feels deliberate." Yeah, and "Scott doesn't do coincidences"... except when he names three different characters Jeremy. =)

[@pokabewrastlin]

My main issue with a lot of theories that game theory posts is that they just... Don't allow for game logic. Take, for example, their subnautica theory. They say that almost the entire map would be filled with nuclear energy and radioactivity but why would a game maker DO that? If the devs did that the game simply wouldn't be playable until you get the radiation suit. Same thing goes with the vanny filter. It's simply to alert the player that vanny is there.

[@pokabewrastlin]

let alone all my issues with them just saying that the books reflect the games even though there's no evidence or using what something is inspired by as evidence for the games. if what happens in the books isn't shown to happen in the game it probably isn't canon

[@qwertious]

MatPat needs to react to other theorists' videos, especially this one. I think it would help him avoid preconceived notions and be open to more ideas. Not that he doesn't make good theories, but sometimes this series takes a different path than what they've always done.

[@Eellex501]

MatPat actually has done that before, watching videos like this one. Unfortunately, all it devolved into was him calling them "haters" or saying they are wrong.

[@kslide1663]

@@Eellex501 thats a lie, he watched fuhnaffs whole series, no being a bitch about it

[@circusbabywantstoeatthekid5702]

@@Eellex501 That’s typical with a lot NOT ALL MikeBro people. (No offense if you believe in that theory.)

[@itzYonko]

@@circusbabywantstoeatthekid5702 Who is Mike?

[@GriFFonRec4]

I mean it's literally a theory, his theory. If he comes up with a better one, he will come out with another video. When would it end if he responded to the dozens of randoms responding to his 1 video he made months ago? I don't care either way, I don't necessarily agree with MatPat's theory at this point. I just feel like you are making an unreasonable request ... not that it matters (I doubt he will ever read either of these comments).

[@r0cky794]

I really don't think the visual effects matter if Gregory's a robot. I say this because when you died in FNAF 1, where we assume we play as Michael, after the jumpscare we are met with a static screen. So saying Gregory's a robot is practically saying Michael's one too.

[@Icantstop850]

I mean they werent wrong, kinda.

[@pikoro2976]

1.While the Charlie theory is the most likley, i dont like any of the robot theories and just feel like we shouldnt gravitate to the books every time we cant immeadiatly solve something, as someone who read them. 2.I feel like patient 46 is her own character, bc trying to connect her to existing characters is basically the whole "phone guy=purple guy" thing from long ago (which were both started by matpat if im correct, which is funny) 3. WHY CANT WE JUST HAVE ORIGINAL CHARACTERS WITHOUT CONNECTING THEM TO OLD ONES RAAAAAAAAA-

[@siresquawks]

I agree mostly, but this video is meant to be a fair consideration of all theories, so I had to hold back some of my frustrations. Seriously the first draft was just robot kid hate for this video.

[@pikoro2976]

@@siresquawks i can imagine lmao. I think the fair consideration defiently made theory more enjoyable than completly shitting on it. Great video for a great lovable mess of a game!

[@porcelainchips6061]

I really believe the connection between the games and the books are simply what Scott said; they mirror aspects of each other. Yes, technology presented in the books probably exists in the games and vice versa; but people are weirdly hooked on creating one-to-ones. The book Afton and the game Afton reflect aspects of each other but they SHOULDN'T line up because they AREN'T one in the same, but they echo each other, foreshadow on each other and fill in holes (example; if we never figure out which type of cookie Mike likes in the games, I'll assume the Mike-alike in the books preferring sugar cookies might be a reasonable hint). We may have seen the illusion discs in use in FNAF 4 (the ringing noise with fredbear's head in the closet) but we've never been shown them explicitly in use; instead their shared existence in the books gives us the opportunity to consider how they might work in the games, but again it SHOULDN'T line up 1-to-1. If anything, I think the idea of child robots showed up first in Sister Location; with the heads in the bunker office. They're robot heads (similar to bibbibabs) but covered by a latex skin. The other humanoid robots in Sister Location also suggest Afton isn't incapable of human-like robots, but then the human-robots in the books seem more advanced and that's... That's okay. Why can't it be "okay" for there to be different degrees of advancement between robots in the books and the games? Until people learn to let it go, I guess we'll keep getting these hard comparisons. Again, if anything, I just feel like stuff in one media is like a helpful pointing to a direction if your lost in the other media and that's it. Literally.

[@blanktester]

Thank you, this is exactly what I wanted to say. It doesn't really matter that Charlie was specifically created as a robot in the books, the whole point of the books is that concepts and vibes in the games and books carry over to one another, without having to be exactly the same. If they were meant to be one-to-one, there's lots of stuff in the books don't have anything to do with the games and there's lots of stuff in the games that isn't specifically in the books. Security Breach's story doesn't tell us basically anything because the game got rushed out the door and the original intended story was almost certainly cut down to basically nothing. The fact that basically nothing exists as evidence because there's almost nothing in the story.

[@an-animal-lover]

Thank you so, so much for saying/typing that. So many ignore that fact

[@irladovelasquez975]

Thanks bro like security breach doesn't explain how gregory is robot

[@blanktester]

@@irladovelasquez975 security breach barely explains anything at all

[@blazinggt9655]

My theory for the "you look different to me" line is that Freddy may be seeing Gregory's skeleton and organs if he's not a robot Edit: as I said this it was mentioned in the video. Whoops

[@FunWare.mp4]

Ok ive said this before but it applies here, if freddy saw gregorys endo or circuits or what ever wouldnt he go,"MY GOD GREGORY YOUR A ROBOT??" Or smt along the lines of "You have a endo!", if they wanted to make that the point then they should have said something alot more obvous. (and its fair to assume freddy would be shocked)

[@irladovelasquez975]

@@FunWare.mp4 that's true but he didn't say "gregory has Endo circuits" probably Freddy knows that gregory has blood and organs maybe that's why he didn't say anything Is because he knows gregory is human so he just say something different like his eyes are colors full of objects but wait if Freddy can see through walls then why can't we see Vanessa skin through her skin well maybe roxy eyes is only for seeing through walls and not for human skin

[@FunWare.mp4]

@@irladovelasquez975 Im confused, I was saying freddy WOULD have said those things, not that he did say those things. The whole point of my comment was to disprove that piece of evidence (Freddy weird vocie line), freddy would not have been so non-chaliant about gregory (Who he thought was human untill now) being a robot.

[@serisdovakhin]

"It might just be a thing for the game" Thank you. Thank you for acknowledging the concept of Gameplay Consolations. Might not be the right term but its things done in the game that are purely for gameplay purposes and have no bareing on the story.

[@an-animal-lover]

It really, really annoys me when people take absolutely everything in FNAF as some kind of theory/lore thing. Pure gameplay elements for mere player convenience? What are those?🙄 (Just to be clear the rolling eyes is part of the rant. I'm rolling my eyes at *most everyone else, not you)

[@SCP-469]

Oh my fucking GOODNESS, finally someone mentioned that. That is why the Final Chapter Nightmares appear in Help Wanted/UCN

[@pugg0wugg083]

1:55 The VR sisters are actually references to the High Score Toy Chica skins from the FNaF AR event. If you look at them closely, you can see that they have beaks. 2:17 It's stated in those very same books that because William was incapable of truly loving someone, due to his huge misunderstanding of love itself, his creations didn't have the 'spark of life' that Henry's did. 13:16 I think it was changed because like Fazbear Frights, some stories are connected to the games, while some are not. Strangely enough, the Epilogues to Tales of the Pizzaplex undeniably take place in the games' continuity.

[@siresquawks]

I don’t think any frights are part of the continuity, just references or story cheat sheets for certain questions. Is Susie chica’s name? Yes. When’s the MCI? 1985. Stuff like that. Yeah I think that Bobbiedots and the epilogues are good chances unless something absurd happens in the next books like Aftons just becomes outright the devil and lifts the mall into space and it gets stuck in the moon or something. My point was more that even with the tales that may potentially have robot kid adjacent premises they don’t seem to be in the game’s continuity, or give explanations for it that well.

[@slimelover999d3]

One interesting thing to chew on is that whilst most Tales From the Pizzaplex stories are explicitly from different plexes, oddly enough Somniphobia seems to take place in the same one as the games. Weird detail that's been bugging me, but probably nothing behind it. (Most of the stories reference having either a rollercoaster, role play area, bumper cart, happs jungle gym thing, or all of the above but only Somniphobia references the same attractions as seen in the games)

[@bigwatermelon4487]

We’re basically just waiting for the Ruin DLC to come out, so it confirms or debunks these theories. I really hope they’re not robots, we need new characters not old ones who have somehow been resurrected. Storywise it would also fit Henry’s plan to destroy the remaining animatronics. Making FNAF: VR and beyond a new era dealing with both a physical and digital William along with Vanny as the new antagonists.

[@an-animal-lover]

Exactly! You just summed up why I loathe the robot theories and the "Gregory=Crying Child" or "Glamrock Freddy=Michael Afton" theories basically on principle, because, as you said, we need new characters. Help Wanted was setting up a new story with new(ish) antagonists, and Security Breach was kind of carrying that forward, setting up a new protagonist in Gregory. Why ruin that by bringing back old characters who are supposed to be dead? In the words of the FNAF2 Bonnie teaser: "out with the old and in with the new"

[@irladovelasquez975]

@@an-animal-lover I also hate theory that gregory is robot and crying child theory and also glamrock Freddy being Micheal I also hate that theory

[@CABEZILLA]

I think the biggest problem with Game Theory when it comes tl Security Breach is that they are focusing on the robot kid part too much, negating any other posibility and by doing that just norrowing down the chances of being wrong by eliminating other alternatives. Its a clear case of wanting to be right so baddly he downright just ignores any other posibility and only sees the facts tgat can support their theory which is... Eh... One of the biggest mistakes someone who ties to present a theory in a serious way can do.

[@ZirconiaGacha]

One of my favorite things along the lines of that to say is "even the MikeVictim believers could be valid". I've seen some MikeVictim KZbinrs give their evidence, and honestly if they have a theory with evidence and can make the other things fit that idea, they have a right to be heard. So pretty much anyone has a theory that could be right.

[@themadxd1274]

I cannot describe the joy I feel seeing someone debunking the gregbot

[@angrysonicbird6779]

Ever since Mikebot=Mikevictim died, Matpat has been trying to stuff the Robot Child concept into the games no matter how little sense it makes. I think he believes that because Afton's name was revealed in the books and Sound Illusion Dics originated from the books, there's gotta be a robot kid running around somewhere, even though it wouldn't work for the games. Matpat literally went into Security Breach with the idea of "Gregory is secretly a Robot" and just spent most of his time searching for things to prove it and ignore everything that went against it.

[@lordfoxquaad1611]

One single thing that instantly breaks "anyone's a robot" theory for me: why would Steel Wool even bring up such a concept from the books so straght-forward in the first place considering that barely anyone who played Security Breach is even remotely familiar with the books and what they're about? It feels plain stupid to use the concept that is only explained in the books and wasn't presented in any of the games at all.

[@siresquawks]

That's another big thing. I think it got cut from the final video, but I had a line like, "and why link Security breach to a book series from several years ago that's set at least a decade before the game is with a completely different plot".

[@Lenape_Lady]

That was Theft King’s attitude towards it. No one read those books, so it doesn’t make sense to bring in a baddie from the books.

[@DragonMasterDM]

Cause Steel Wool aren’t writing the lore of the franchise?

[@michaelraymon111]

I dont understand what people mean by this? How would they introduce a robot kid at this point franchise? How are they supposed to do it according to you? They didn't introduce straigthword via the addition of binary code lol. Where was Henry and willaim creating fredbears family diners in the games? Or remnant thoroughly explained

[@michaelraymon111]

@@Lenape_Lady the same way william, Henry, remnant were brought from the books? Do you think scott cares how people read the books.

[@ready_to_brawl123]

Guys isn't weird that in the fnaf sb ending were you go on a ride with Freddy he lets you drive but he doesn't let us drive a race cart if Freddy isn't possessed how the heck is his AI so dumb it let's a child drive a van but not a mini race cart Well you could say that Freddy ai only allows kids who has an escort with them to drive anything

[@siresquawks]

To be fair they don’t expect kids to be driving Vans so it could just be very focused programming where they literally just didn’t think to put block on “no kid in van brr”

[@kimmy1325]

@@siresquawks like "nah don't even bother, how and why would a kid ever drive a van? Since when do kids drive vans? How the hell would a kid drive a van if kids dunno how to drive things not made for them to drive wth"

[@rainwatcher5978]

I mean he literally dies, his battery runs out of battery. Maybe the first thing he thought of was Gregory getting to safety then something else

[@oblitusflipsideb3ar174]

An little extra thing: the "vr sisters" were supposed to be the highscore toy chica and toy freddy from fnaf ar So yeah, they still parody from skins

[@Ace_Greymoore]

Another point refuting the Oops All Elizabeth theory; I saw mentioned in a retrospective sort of video on Baby that originally, she wasn't on Afton's side. In the cutscene after Sister Location Custom Night (you know the one) Michael says "they thought I was you" while talking to Afton and I'm fairly certain it was Baby's plan to scoop him the entire time. So Baby was under the impression that she was about to kill her dad and was super cool with that. To be fair she did get rewritten in Pizzeria Simulator to basically just be Daddy's Girl TM. That was just a thought I had and wanted to bring up

[@siresquawks]

Well to be fair she does say you won't die and brings Michael back thinking he was her dad, as even in 6 when seeing the Pizzeria run by Michael she's convinced it's her dad setting something up for her. At least that's how I see it now.

[@Ace_Greymoore]

@@siresquawks That's also a fair point

[@digitaltailsmon4096]

I think this is honestly what I have been thinking in regards to the robot kids idea. Don't get me wrong do I understand the logic people have? Yes I do. But I feel that them being brainwashed makes way more sense

[@princessmarlena1359]

Yeah, I never saw Gregory as a robot. Nor Vanessa. I don’t even believe anyone is possessing Glamrock Freddy, his crash and reboot on safe mode after the show saved him from becoming corrupted. Great video, excellent points!

[@siresquawks]

I’m open to the possession thing, but yeah. Glad you liked it!

[@Hdhryrruufu]

Love this video. I hate the idea of either Vanessa or Gregory being robots for many many reasons I don't have the energy to type. Agreed with pretty much everything you said. People need to stop looking into such small details with so much obsession.

[@TheEnigmaProductions]

MatPat is wrong, Gregory is not a robot he's just some homeless kid

[@gacha_hiro1428]

if it is confirmed that Gregory is human, that would make him the strongest human protagonist in the fnaf franchise(Michael doesn't count because he is a rotting corpse), he has the iq that could ALMOST rival that of Afton. Cassidy(assuming she's the princess) will definitely praise him when they meet.

[@siresquawks]

IQ? He's definitely mature for his age, but other than the repair stuff, which is color coded and guided for him, he doesn't do much intelligence wise. Strength is odd but not too much to me.

[@laurentcathery273]

Tbh to me its a bit frustrating how we're even trying to "solve" security breach or guess what the dlc will bring us, simply because i feel like a lot of the things we're theorising arent even things the game seemed to want us to theories about? Why are we theorising on gregory to begin with when the game literally showed us he is a homeless kid?? Why are we theorising about freddy being micheal for? Just cause freddy said "all my friends are down here"? Its so weird. Idk maybe im just a bitter person but id rather have us solve the original timeline before we pick up the books and try to retroactively solve stuff or even move onto a dlc that didnt even come out yet. We still dont know what fnaf 4 was about and to me it seems crucial to guess what scott had in mind back then to then solve things one by one until here. The games have had so many retcons at this point that we first need to know what was retcon, we first need to know what is canon or not, and thats not possible if we dont even know what was happening in the first place. As you pointed out, why focus on humanoid androids when we dont even know if in game anyone did thaaat, like is it even canon cause as far as i know the books were confirmed as an headcanon 😭 aka not even canon. (Also the stories in the books suck anyways and make no sense so...)

[@siresquawks]

I feel like the whole “we don’t know anything and there’s so many retcons” is overblown. Fnaf’s confusion first and foremost comes from its community’s collective interpretation. I don’t think there are actually that many retcons, just things we were wrong about or was yet to be revealed that we jumped the gun over. I agree that the older games need another look, and that people are jumping the gun way to much, but that doesn’t mean it’s pointless or irrelevant.

[@laurentcathery273]

@@siresquawks i dont think its pointless either, i guess its just a preference of mine, i tend to find it frustrating when nowadays most people keep on going with theories and new games and all that (which is normal, focusing on newer content all that) when so many things from the previous games are still unknown or have like 20 different theories explaining them that all have flaws or some little prooves. Its just frustrating at this 😔

[@Cool_Kid95]

When a small KZbinr makes a significantly better theory than any of the big channels: 👀👀👀

[@luigiboi4244]

Until further notice (AKA actual confirmation on what's going on) I propose a new theory: Saxton Hale is the secret head of Fazbear Entertainment LLC.

[@nikodemospl870]

11:43 This is the most accurate depiction of who Gregory really is (besides being the Quiet Kid without his backpack)

[@brandleythomas7551]

No ways this guy called Matpat Mathew Pathew💀💀

[@an-animal-lover]

Matrick Patrick?🤣

[@pilloeglade5463]

I have a hard time believing that if Gregory was a robot, that upon seeing his endoskeleton with Roxy's eyes....that Freddy wouldn't speak on that.

[@maddiek1314]

I’d love to hear your take on the sticky note room!! That’s the piece of evidence that is the most connected to “robot kid theory” for me, so I’m really curious what other theories exist that explain that room!

[@siresquawks]

My 46 theory does go over it a fair bit. Honestly only the code thing really implies it to me, and my issue with that is 46 is a hacker who would know binary anyways

[@circusbabywantstoeatthekid5702]

I have always had mixed feelings about GregBot. I don’t hate it but I don’t completely agree with it. Can I add on a couple points for it? Gregory is exploring this massive pizza plex he never gets hungry, thirsty, or even tired. You would think he at least once would. At least whine or complain about one of those. Heck maybe had something in El Chip’s or at 6 am when leaving. Gregory also enters the charging station with it active and charging Freddy. Even though he’s inside Freddy. In the beginning of the game he talks to Freddy just fine, and yells at Freddy, while inside Freddy’s stomach, but after he hops out. Freddy asks him “Who are you?” Gregory pauses for a good few moments then stutters “I-I-I’m... Gr-Gregory..” I have always disagreed with Vanny = Elizabeth. It just never made sense

[@siresquawks]

You do pick up snacks and sodas frequently that make you faster, and the charging pods feel like a gameplay mechanic first and foremost. The gregory thing is weird, but to me it seems more like he's untrusting of the animatronics, but I could maybe see it as something more.

[@circusbabywantstoeatthekid5702]

@@siresquawks Oh. Yea they could be. We can only hope we will learn more about him and his backstory in Ruin. Oh another thing. I just remembered which I’m still confused by. Steelwool told us that if we watched Freddy On Tour we already played the game. Curious on your interpretation of the show with that.

[@siresquawks]

@@circusbabywantstoeatthekid5702I'm going to be honest I have no clue what they meant by that

[@kyubbikcat2281]

And ALL THIS is assuming that androids are canon in the games. Which, at least in my knowledge, there has been no confirmation that androids even exist in the games canon. Nobody has pointed this out, so I’m saying here now.

[@siresquawks]

I do bring that up towards the end.

[@acesiccarla]

@@siresquawks then what about this(its a link to the michael spewing ennard out) :kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJSmfnhrg9qajM0

[@MahNamJeff]

@@acesiccarlaThats not an android or robot kid, This is a robot wearing a corpse.

[@acesiccarla]

@@MahNamJeff yeah but how the hell after it spewed up ennard, how the hell did michael rise? I understand where u are coming from and i guess there is an explanation: that its more probably babu that was like spewed out, but like all the books were like:Robot kids exist wooo, and in the background there is baby saying U wont die so.... Yea michael is still alive for some reason and it makes more sense that ennard like not just baby was spewed up. Thats what I was trying to say lol

[@clefairyfan333]

@@acesiccarla It's generally accepted by the community that Mike's soul was able to repossess his body due to being injected with remnant by the scooper.

[@electricangel4488]

An adult Evan Afton robot running the company. That might work if bills goal was putting him back together

[@Josieisnotmyname]

All I hope is that the highest up in Fazbear Entertainment is Mrs. Afton because she was literally a placeholder for some lore that didn’t really matter, that’s why I believe Ballora is based off of a previous wife or lover, maybe even a mistress leading Afton to separate from his wife or something, the only reason im mentioning this is because of the dramatic tv show micheal watches as the William stand in says it’s not his son, what if it was true but flipped around?

[@siresquawks]

that might be interesting. It's unknown if she's alive given it's been 50 years since the series canonically starts but not impossible if we're just wrong about enough lore.

[@swarple]

I remember when MatPat was watching FuhNaff’s theory, and John brought up the VR Sisters for the umpteenth time, Mat said that everyone has their “pet” theory that they always come back to. I think robot-people is MatPat’s pet theory, lol. I don’t know if it’s because he wants it to be robot people, or because he’s decided to just commit to it, but I think he finds robot people in everything. I don’t like the idea of robot kids in the context of FNAF. I like the newer characters as their own characters rather than reappearances of old ones.

[@justin2308]

Honestly, the robot kid theory has weight to it based on the books, some places in the game (like the sticky note room), and the quote in FNAF 1 on Night 5’s call. Hiding from Vanny even seems to be a bigger priority for Gregory rather than getting out of the Pizzaplex. I don’t WANT it to be true, though, is my problem. That’s part of why my personal (albeit unstable) headcanon is that Gregory is an Emily. The idea of there just suddenly being skinjob animatronics in a Terminator-like fashion is just way too spontaneous and throws away too much of the established lore.

[@runaruinous]

My issue with the Gregory beign a robot is that there are gameplay elements that conflict with the theory. It's implied that Roxy can see other robots through walls, yet when you hide when she still has them, she can't find gregory. Pretty sure they aren't lining the baby prams, photobooths and lockers with lead to block that sort of thing. You can also hear Gregory breathing faintly in certain hiding spots. Also why would a robot need a stamina bar? Freddy has to recharge energy via the booths so why would Gregory not have to after using up the energy bar?

[@irladovelasquez975]

Ur right like roxy eyes is supposed to look through walls to find humans well it doesn't work for mechanic but if gregory was robot then why he had stamina bar like if ur robot you don't need stamina you can easily run faster

[@matthewmatthew981]

There are no robot kids in Security Breach. The only thing small enough to count is Lil' Music Man, and he is a honest, hard-working adult.

[@soirema]

Awesome video, great points. Mat did get fixated on the robot theory xd

[@Monomoteur]

I would love to see you argue with Mat Pat in GTLive

[@siresquawks]

I’d finish Giraffe Town for him while doing so, as I’m the world record speedrunner if that game (not joking that’s how I got my first hundred subs)

[@STOKERMATHALLAN]

I just kept hearing there are No ghosts in Kubrick's The shining

[@tinaherr3856]

This is a very nice video. May I suggest looking into the various Nightmarionne theories and connections to Security Breach, particularly those of the KZbinr Ozone? He has some very interesting thoughts, supported by some interesting details from the games

[@siresquawks]

I did acknowledge Fuhnaff’s plushie theory for Nightmarionne in the prior 46 theory video, but haven’t seen Ozone’s stuff. I might take a look at it.

[@tinaherr3856]

@@siresquawks oh, ok. I have another point, or theory, that could help. At 10:00 for your "robot kids not needing Remnant" point, I actually have a theory of my own. I believe that Agony was what brought Charlie in the books to life in the first place. If you don't know, Agony is a force presented in the Fazbear Frights books, by a Dr. Phineas Taggart. He explains that emotions, specifically suffering, from a tragedy can have an affect on its surroundings. That it can created "haunted" objects. The force is even responsible for bringing to life beings that are not possessed by a spirit In the Fourth Closet, during the big "Charlie is a robot" reveal, Elizabeth talks about how Henry poured his grief into Charlie. I believe that it was Agony that brought Charlie to life. This is especially evident at lines such as, "Your the ghost of a man's regret, you're what's left of a man who lost everything, you're the sad little tears that fell unceremoniously into a doll..." And, "You, maybe he [Afton] can re-create. Henry somehow got a piece of himself into you, and that's something we haven't seen before. It's... unique." -(lines taken from the books, the original, no pictures version) And we know book Charlie isn't possessed, because Afton had seen possessed animitronics before.

[@ronanmates7812]

I have a feeling like steel wool didnt have a solid grasp on what they wanted for this game and have realised if they are vague enough they can make up any answer they want and say that was the answer from the start.

[@siresquawks]

Eh I think they have a little more than that. There’s definitely something here unlike early to mid Bendy 1 where they literally retconned and changed shit based on fan theories, this is fundamentally different.

[@leritykay8911]

I think another point for Gregbot is the thing that he can casually go into charging stations inside freddy. Because I mean, frankly, even if I was assured that it's safe, I wouldn't sit inside a huge metallic robot inside a charging station surrounded by electricity

[@siresquawks]

Or it’s a game play mechanic that saves time animating Gregory getting out of Freddy and is convenient in play.

[@leritykay8911]

@@siresquawks I mean, yeah. But I think that still should have been mentioned, even if it'll get dismissed

[@siresquawks]

@@leritykay8911 It really feels more like a short cut to not have to program a "go into charging station" command for Freddy. He only ever goes in on his own in scripted moments to my knowledge.

[@mattie2695]

5:36 that, and the fact that in FNAF 1-3 when you die, you see static, does that imply that Mike, Jeremy, Fritz and whoever you play as in 3 HAVE BEEN ROBOTS THIS WHOLE TIME?!?! Its not solid enough, its just game design choices more than anything because, at the end of the day, these are still games. Not everything needs to be taken literally.

[@thatoneboyo5387]

B7's Freddy's was the original Freddy's from the 80s, not the Pizzaplex. Although this is a really great video btw.

[@siresquawks]

Shit my brain turned off when reading it I guess, I must’ve read it and saw Freddy’s in a tales book and assumed it must’ve been the Pizzaplex. But yeah it totally was normal Freddy’s. My bad Cade’s still backs it up, and so does the lack or mention of any so many of the Tale’s locations and characters for the pizzaplex.

[@someonecalledragnarok1908]

What's B7

[@thatoneboyo5387]

@@someonecalledragnarok1908 Story in Tales from the Pizzaplex

[@Sp00ksOdyssey]

I actually made my own theory on my Twitter based off of his theory of Gregory being a robot. However my theory was to prove he's NOT one 😅😅😅 this one however might just be better in theories as I forgot about Vanessa 😂😂 (bit of insight on the Vannesa one so you're not confused, I have a half completed theory of Vanny being Vannesa's little sister as Vanny is always giggling like a child. And one trailer had "Afton" mentioning TWO people doing as he says, etc etc.) But my Gregory theory was only off of Matpat's video of him saying Gregory was a robot 😅

[@FunWare.mp4]

What is it that afton says? and which trailer? i cant find it.

[@alexrivers8163]

I feel like William afton has set up the return of the franchise every time it dies. He's not trying to wreck it. It's just his calling card. It's him setting up shop in a new town far away from the last location either by distance or time to continue his arcane science. I imagine he dreams of converting everyone in to animatronics under his control like his own version of eggmanland

[@siresquawks]

Interesting take, but how would Afton set up Fazbear's to make a dev team to scan his circuit boards to give him a body if there wasn't some other force setting Help Wanted and Security breach up?

[@alexrivers8163]

@@siresquawks through FNAF world and the stage 01 minigame

[@alexrivers8163]

@@siresquawks after he has become glitchtrap purposefully to expand his range of terror and set up future events for his grand return

[@alexrivers8163]

@@siresquawks William afton is basically cyber controller and the animatronics are the cybermen

[@alexrivers8163]

@@siresquawks I think glitchtrap was around long before it's grand unveiling it served the purpose of being Afton's living will should he diem

[@Patolagos]

Vanny is pretty much Glitchtrap taking control of Vanessa, so my best guess is that the CRT filter just comes from the idea of Glitchtrap being near or whatever. I mean, Glitchtrap's whole thing is that he's a computer virus that can also, somehow, infect humans.

[@identity_crisis2005]

So William just uses google to learn how to force humans to obey him

[@Reddishty]

i was here before 1k subs, your videos get better and better and more believable each one you upload!

[@siresquawks]

Thanks for sticking around!

[@Reddishty]

@@siresquawks your video's motivate me while i model, so no, thank you.

[@mannyegarica12]

The only thing I can see connected from the furious rage and security breach is the background. Especially in the new epilogues they started out a circus which is nearby the instruction site for the mega Pizza pizza Plex build

[@siresquawks]

Maybe Idk.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

I’m still waiting till Ruin, hopefully then steel wool will throw us a lore bone.

[@DragonMasterDM]

I have a love/hate relationship with the army of Vanessa’s theory. On one hand it makes no sense and I don’t believe it, on the other hand it means there’s an army of Vanessa and how could that make me feel anything but joy?

[@siresquawks]

I mean the theory is more that there's 4 of her

[@DragonMasterDM]

@@siresquawks 4 of Vanessa, each of a different age group. That’d make a great sitcom.

[@ImmenseAndrew]

Disappointed that you didn't bring up the Sister Location room code, which is the most slam dunk evidence for Gregbot and was what convinced me of it (I didn't find the other evidence that convincing either). The code literally says that the speaker (seemingly Michael) "built" Gregory ("the breath"), that he is "life not real," and "your life, your aim will save those with soul," as if Gregory himself is without a soul. And it's definitely talking about Gregory when you consider the line "Dodge, duck, flash, shoot, crawl, run, crush the vile band" which is literally what you do the entire game. "break and mend i built the breath they hunt now" - Michael built Gregory, whom the Glamrocks now hunt "drawn to life not real" - The Glamrocks are drawn to Gregory, who is not a real "life" "still keen and frit and fraught with thought and zest and gest no blunt woes" - Despite being a robot, Gregory is still very humanlike "dodge duck flash shoot crawl run crush the vile band" - Gregory's purpose for which he was built, which is what we spend the whole game doing. He was literally created to destroy the Glamrocks. "cry not try not do not hold out hope no" - idk, this line is weird "your life you aim will save those with soul" - Gregory's purpose appears to be to stop the disappearances of children, who are contrasted with him in that they are "with soul," unlike Gregory.

[@siresquawks]

Dude the damn code is so vague that I just didn’t bother pretending there was a definitive or solid enough interpretation. The speaker and subject are so vague that any interpretation is up to scrutiny right now. But I will consider this if I do a bonus video or something like that. Michael being the one who made Gregory is interesting.

[@MrBanksLP]

If this turns out be true, then = amazing. But so far, it is way too vague.

[@Youarewhatyoueatsonic]

I still think the “you look different line” is left over from an earlier version of the story. When you hop in Freddy you can’t see any of the robots endoskeletons or anything like that

[@dtimetyp7062]

completely agree. robot kids are not a thing and they explain nothing. they might be robots, but i will only consider it as soon as we have anything that actually implys it. but i disagree with one part: tales not being canon. 13:27 that picture doesnt show 2035 and i will die on this hill. it is a 20/5 and the three is just the end of the five being really squiggely. so 2035 is not the date for bs, since nothing else implys it. personally i believe sb 2063, but thats a whole other story. whatever the case, 2035 isnt set in stone 13:55 b-7 is one of two stories to never mention the pizzaplex. it probably happened around the 80's until around the year 2000, since freddy and friends, the tv show he watched in the beginning, was found in the archives of fazbear entertainment, from years ago. we know this because of the descriptions of the episodes on youtube 14:07 lallys game doesnt say the pizzaplex is still open. he was there as a child, and it might have closed already. this would put lallys game as the latest event in the timeline 14:10 the tiger is a vr attraction. not an actual animatronic. at least the description implys it also: the newest story bobbiedots features an exact similar pizzaplex from security breach. it has fazerblast with the alien-hat staff bots, it has dj music man, with his bouncer mode grabbing in the toilets and the daycare attendant who gets explained why he is so evil as moon, why the lights went out and why the generators are in the playstructurs. also the epilouges of the books are in freddy fazbears pizza place, where it gets explained, why the plex is being built ontop of the old location, and we have a killer endo who piles up a bunch of other endos and dead humans on a pile. it is very likely that the killer endo becomes burntraps endo and the pile of endos and humans the blob.

[@siresquawks]

I did mess up on B-7, but my point about the tiger was that he wasn't advertised like literally everything in the Pizzaplex's attraction roster is in the game, along with tons of other things that aren't acknowledged at all. Like I said, I think Tales is the Silver Eyes for Security breach, all the loose stuff is there, but it they aren't the same universes, or at least not all Tales are in the same universe. Granted the short stories have had some weird spots where's it sometimes hard to tell if they're in the same world as the other stories. I see no reason to not just say it's in the same universe on the Amazon and scholastic listings and change it to say "uncharted cannon". Also, it very much looks like 2035. Glad you liked the rest of the video.

[@dtimetyp7062]

@@siresquawks well,t he attractions not being advertised is easy explained. people died in them. they closed them off and replaced them with stuff like roxy raceway. they would not keep advertising an attraction from 5 years ago, where two children were murdered by a robot. also, spme stuff lignes up a bit too well. there was an indie dev who made 3 games and one unfinished fourth one. in help wanted we have the first 3 games and fnaf 4 is kind off weird and has different animatronics like it is unfinished. we have bobbiedots where they changed some stuff from an earlier version of the book that got leaked and made stuff like the lobby more game accurate. there is also an upcoming sotry about the person, that has far larger highscores then any other person on all the arcade machines. in sb, nearly every arcade has someone with the name GG as the top player, far exceeding all others. and the epilouges show us the afton ending. at what point is it too similar? yet, i can deffinetly see why you wouldnt think so. i was sceptic at first too, but personally, i think it is fun too connect tales with the games. it works and it provides explanations for stuff in security breach. whatever the case, keep up the good work. i enjoy your content, and you have very based oppinions.

[@DavidLeexhaj]

I think Gregory and Vanessa are both human but Glitchtrap might’ve used Gregory as a puppet like he did Vanessa and he’s patient 46

[@mus1k844]

"Oops! All Elizabeth" still makes me laugh no matter how many times I watch this

[@MontysCantina]

"There is not robot people in Ba Sing Se"

[@adambump5297]

I assume what’s happening with Gregory’s vision when seeing Vanny is sound illusion disks.

[@codeguy7309]

how does Gregory end up in the pizzaplex, distrust Vanessa and know about children going missing? He has no registry either, even the fazwatch seemed a novelty to him.

[@theftking]

That is a bold claim. I hope you're right.

[@christiandidonna8808]

11:27 one current running theory is that it’s becasue it infected one part of his software but then when he glitches out it was restricted that part of it ( I think it was the party software or something )

[@siresquawks]

That's why I only said perhaps I just wanted to use my popcorn michael gif

[@christiandidonna8808]

@@siresquawks o okay , I was just also wantin to share the wee bit I know of the lore .

[@hioman]

The big thing with Mr on this theory is, remember when every MatPat theory on FNAF was based on the theory that "the crying child is Michael, and the Michael from all the games is a Crying child bot" well it wasn't true then, and the series has moved on. Why would they regress back to something they've already abandoned It really feels like MatPat thinks that the "dead child is rebuilt as a robot" thing was supposed to be in the games, so now he's trying to do that for every child in the game, when in reality it was probably just done as a plot twist.

[@ojivlogs]

One of my theorys is that vanny wasn't walking in the pizzaplex but having illusion discs/holograms throughout the pizzaplex (which she use to torment Gregory)

[@siresquawks]

how does she jumpscare you then?

[@StoryTeller796]

I will say that no Game Theory, especially "Mario is Mental", is well supported. They're just fun what-ifs more often than not. Treat them as such, and make careful sure to notice that MatPat's whole language, whole "persona", is that of a crazy person trying to prove their own worldview, and that's an interesting and fun public persona that I enjoy to view. The sooner we all accept that if MatPat is right, that's only when his persona accepts common sense, not because he's made a galaxy brain play.

[@siresquawks]

That wasn't the point of the mention. The point was that I've been watching Game Theory SINCE mario is mental came out, showing how long I've been a fan of the channel. Not that Mario is mental is a good theory.

[@StoryTeller796]

@@siresquawks Sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate that in your preliminary (I have no clue what that word means, I'm just trying to use big words to sound like you so that I can charm you, and I'm masking my Autism again, on the internet no less! Can you imagine that?) comment before the rest of the video started, I just needed to get this off my chest. Especially since for the longest time, when I was a young boy, I used to use the Mario is Mental theory as an excuse to criticize Nintendo's poor characterization and usage of their main flagship icon and I would nonstop criticize and be overall cynical that if Nintendo couldn't shake off MatPat's theories, that they weren't doing a good enough job with their games. Can you imagine that? It took me a lot of growing up to be able to move on from that phase and I was taken aback by RedQueenMiku's video on it as I realized that Nintendo didn't need to take care of MatPat nor did I need to put stock into his words.

[@jokernoob9905]

Great video! However you missed alot of evidence for Gregbot. Gregory's connections to Evan/BV are undeniable. He's wearing nearly the exact same clothing, the sticky note room seems to show some kind of genetic algorithm replicating the crying child's personality. Even the dynamic between Gregory and Glamrock Freddy is reminiscent of Evan/BV's relationship with his stuffed Fredbear plushie. Fredbear's Family Diner is also refrenced alot, plus there are multiple refrences to a 'broken' staffbot and a headless staffbot. And FINALLY Gregory uses the power-stations despite him being a human. It's pretty clear I'm a very big Gregbot supporter.

[@siresquawks]

Glad you liked it. My main issue is a lot of the bite victim similarities are kinda surface level. There’s no arguing he’s a parallel to the bite victim, but literally being him is different. I saw a comment after making this that makes me less hesitant for this theory where Michael made Gregory during the 30 time gap, and that’s why he’s sort of like the Bite Victim but has a personality more akin to Michael’s, and why he’s now homeless, which is interesting but like I said in the video, I need something that is more inexcusable. I feel like the post-it kid has to be 46 (see prior video on that topic) and 46 is a girl who’s personality isn’t quite what Gregory has, which makes that evidence irrelevant to Gregory. Like I said in the video, 1/3 chance to me. Maybe more of a 2/5 now.

[@jokernoob9905]

​@@siresquawks ​Thanks for replying! Michael building Gregory is interesting. Personally though, I'd argue Gregory was built by Afton, and then was sealed in the box up until Security breach. I actually watched your video on 46 inhabiting the post-it room. The reason why I think the inhabitant of the Post-it room is Gregory is the refrences to the Fredbear plushie, the 'All for me' line and the references to his 'home'. (Since the pizzaplex has multiple rooms from the Afton Household.)

[@jokernoob9905]

@HorrorLover Maybe, I personally don't find it likely that there's multiple people in that room though. The notes seem to portray an evolution, not a conversation. And if we had to point to who's most likely to be a robot kid; it's probably Gregory. :)

[@zeemmy99]

Gregory doesn't use the power-stations, he just hides in them. The power stations only work on Freddy (and I'd imagine the other animatronics.) The dynamic is also very surface level and isn't real evidence, as other people can draw other parallels (like Michael and Henry's relationship, it's all opinionated.) The 'broken' staffbot was just an excuse by the devs for a reason to be sent to the east arcade, and the headless one was among the rest of the "Afton" family bots. There's references to every fnaf game, mostly fnaf6, so Fredbear's diner isn't special. The sticky notes also haven't been confirmed to be linked to crying child at all, and instead are actually more closely interpreted to the staff-bots gaining sentience, rather than someone replicating a child that barely matters at all. You can believe in the Gregorybot theory, but don't act like it's supported by any actual facts. /lh

[@an-animal-lover]

He does not "use" the recharge stations, he hides in them

[@marieree5096]

You are blooding, I detect blood, go to recovery station (Gregory cut his arm in a vent was was bleeding) was replaced with U are broken

[@siresquawks]

I know. I mention it in the video.

[@oneroushorse]

If Gregory is a robot then how come burntrap doesn’t at least try to wirelessly hack his brain like his does to Freddy in the boss fight

[@jonahdza]

Laughs in GGY (one of the newest FNAF stories)

[@TeamTheme]

I love your logical approach

[@kittydemonoverkill]

8:25 and to people saying it could just be a coincidence; the origin of the doors were found under a different name, which means SteelWool changed the file name to CharlieDoor

[@MopeyToapy]

Wait- The Events of Fnaf 3 happens this Year? Wowza!

[@siresquawks]

At the earliest, latest is about 2033

[@MopeyToapy]

@@siresquawks Again, Wowza!!!

[@CaptainRickey]

The Gregory one I have the biggest problem with considering that. After the "I feel like you're broken" line, you pass a couple staff bots around a disassembled staff bot, which resembles the give gifts/give life mini-game. "You're broken" directly after a reference to Golden Freddy? Robots can canonically bleed in the FNAF franchise as they do in the books. They can also eat (not just Gregory either, Chica eats garbage and is attracted IN GAME to a pizza) and some don't even know they are not human themselves. I don't understand how people give this one line of CUT dialogue even the light of day as argument against this theory. About that Chica scene... why does she know his name? Doesn't he have no records? There's a line of Vanessa's FNAF AR emails that talks about 3 life sized male human masks... I don't know where that would go, but my guess would be William, Afton and Crying Child? I'm leaving it here, not really as evidence against or for but to help create a possible narrative. Why does Gregory hesitate to say his OWN NAME after talking to Freddy for quite some time, where he didn't hesitate for any time? Almost like he had to think about it? Like he made it up on the spot? As for the screen effect, I'm not convinced. It feels weird that everyone else is unable to see Vanny, EXCEPT Gregory. This makes me think that it might not be a robot thing, BUT after obtaining Roxy's eyes Freddy DOES see Vanny, meaning the technology does exist and Gregory could just have them built in. Are we not gonna talk about the fact that Gregory can ENTER the charging station? This isn't our current day technology where you connect a cable into Freddy and it charges him. The electricity is directly shot into him THROUGH the station itself. By proxy then, shouldn't we also get a big ol' charge of electricity? Also for those people not convinced Gregory is connected to the Aftons: the 3 star ending also features Gregory, Freddy and Vanessa on a hill at sunset, enjoying ice cream. Gregory AND Vanessa in purple (NO THAT'S NOT A SHADOW, in literally every other ending the color themes are the same despite them ALL happening at night or near night time) and Freddy in between them. A little reminiscent of the TV scene (the one after Old Man Consequences iirc) if I might add. Gregory holds a Freddy Popsicle with its head bitten off.

[@siresquawks]

I mean I did say it was 3 times more likely than Vanny and Vanessa being machines. But I never argued about the bleeding thing. I joked that if changing something like The princess’s file name being changed didn’t matter than old lines should still matter. I wasn’t actually arguing that because I know they bleed. Gregory entering the charging station seems like a short cut for game development because other than scripted events in the story, Freddy can’t go into charging stations on his own to my knowledge. Rather than program a dedicated button for Freddy’s already broken AI and movement, just let the player walk in themself. Save dev time, and less buggy. The purple thing feels weird because the whole point is their being freed from Afton. I feel like it’s more symbolic lighting, the yellow sunset and yellow’s opposite purple which helps them pop out more. Yeah it could mean something but as an artist I’m not convinced. But your comment misses one fundamental issue with GregBot: this relies on us as a fan base having to assume that the general concept of robot kids from Silver Eyes is interchangeably applicable to any human character. That’s fundamentally against its whole narrative. Henry is the only person who could build them in that universe, and William could barely make one already built pass as human with sound disks. There’s no narrative proof William or Vanny have to make a robot kid themselves. That’s why I said the most likely one would be Charlie since that would actually be a connection to silver eyes, rather than cherry picking a concept and using it to smatter over some holes in the narrative.

[@purplespaceduck5837]

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH, I needed to hear that Vanessa isn't Elizabeth from another human being.

[@loganbrony130]

Yes. Thank you. Finally, somebody else goes against this theory with me. I have been against it since the first video on this. Glad to see someone else disagrees with Mat. Though, what if I told you that I basically think that the Crying Child isn't Gregory or the blob, but the Daycare attendant? Basically, I believe he controls the sun side, and his sister controls the moon side. I'd like to see you do a video on this.

[@siresquawks]

That's interesting, is there any evidence?

[@loganbrony130]

Well, a lot of the links Mat had to Gregory being the crying child came from the room behind the daycare that only the attendant seems to have access to. I wouldn't be surprised to see the crying child share an animatronic body with someone again. When he says new friend, it seems like he means he never really had a friend, so he's trying to make one. Not literally, of course. As for Elizabeth Afton controlling the moon side, it says that Gregory is being naughty for being up past his bedtime and needs to be punished. It's obvious that the punishment is death. It seems to me like the punishment thing is a cover up so that Elizabeth can kill kids and collect their remnant to being her father back or make him stronger or something like that. It's clear to me that Afton isn't using a hack or whatever to control the daycare attendant, otherwise the sun side would be trying to kill Gregory as well. When he says to keep the lights on, he's trying to make sure that his sister doesn't come out to kill him. He's just trying to keep him safe. This would explain why he doesn't let Gregory wander until the barrels are knocked over, and the programming kicks in. I think he realized, however, that Gregory was in danger around him, since the lights would go off again anyway. He was pushing him away. That's why he throws Gregory out and calls for security. He wanted to keep him safe, and that was how he chose to do it. So in the end, the crying child was truly the best friend that Gregory or anyone in his position could ever have. This is all the evidence I have, considering what we know. I know it isn't too much to go off of, but what do you think?

[@donaddams8825]

The intro just seems like something William Afton would use for some reason.

[@siramaytheshowgundragon]

11:21 you know at first I didn't fully see this as Michal till I paused but for some reason the wording alone surged my mind into think the possibility of glamrock Freddy being possed by Golden Freddy's spirit(s?) I mean in ucn the final cutscene showed them twitching to imply there still out there unlike Michael who died in that fire, and some other small but circumstantial details that make sense to me but probably not I donno I just felt the need to bring up that possibility maybe?

[@siresquawks]

Eh the are worse theories.

[@siramaytheshowgundragon]

@@siresquawks I'll accept that 👍

[@roundboi3994]

here's a fun fact about the crt filter, the point of illusion discs is so the person can't be seen on camera which is why people think greg is a robot However the actually cameras in game show vanny without the filter so take that info how you will

[@cools-mc-fools]

whats your take on the pigpen cipher? ( the one in mikes room )

[@siresquawks]

The fact that it’s in Mike’s recreated room and also the room where the therapy tapes are played is utterly bizarre and honestly it’s one of those things where it almost feels like every answer makes sense.

[@MahNamJeff]

@@siresquawksEven Undeniably canon FNaF’s “Fnaf 6 was right next to Michaels house so when the pizzaplex was built they just had Mochaels house built into the thing” works.

[@kittydemonoverkill]

Ok, speaking of evidence from the books; I feel like there is a method to the books. After all, they were made to help solve the lore, because the worlds in the books work by the same rules as the games. So if something happens in the books, it means that something similar is ABLE to happen in the games (does not explicitly mean it DID happen, just that it is possible. For example, Charlie in the books is a realistic robot kid. Which means it is possible for there to be believable robot humans in the games. However, that does not mean that there IS robot kids, it just means that it is not impossible for that to happen.) And when something is mentioned multiple times, noticably, across different stories, it means there is something we are supposed to glean from that, whether it be a rule of the world, lack thereof, or an actual date for an event, if it is explicitly emphasized, we're meant to notice it.

[@cherenmertens]

Security Breach really messed the lore up. MatPat just tries to make sense of something that doesn't make sense in general.

[@kittydemonoverkill]

13:37 FNaF 1 could also be from 1989 at the earliest. Doesn't mean that that *is* when it happens, just that it is the earliest that it *could* happen.

[@smt64productions40]

I am convinced he wants Gregbot so BV became a robot is still possible during the Mike = CC era

[@tarabotelho6692]

OMG THANK YOU!!!!!! I HATE the “robot kids” theory! Thank you for disproving them!

[@ladyblahblahist]

the avatar reference in the beginning is heart warming lol

[@thebreadbunny1863]

What do you think about the epilogues of the tales? Are they canon to the games?

[@siresquawks]

I'm not sure. I'll have to think on it more...