There are 'problems' needing to be addressed with offshore wind farms

Regulation Economics’ Alan Moran says offshore wind farms are “more than twice as expensive” as onshore ones as the government relies on offshore wind farms to fulfill its climate plans.
The Sydney Morning Herald reports dozens of turbines could be installed off Gippsland in Victoria and Wollongong and Newcastle in New South Wales.
“We have problems here because the offshore wind farms are in areas which can be readily visible, often in scenic places,” Mr Moran told Sky News host Chris Kenny.
“We have some problems with, how do we gel that with fishing rights, there are some issues about whale migrations, I don’t know how we’d handle that."

[@chrisruss9861]

Trash the environment to save the environment.

[@youbigtubership]

They're fighting for peace again.

[@charlesgreen9468]

Big Big JOKE!

[@JessicaZane4realz]

Those wind farms just look so ridiculous.

[@freeagent8225]

They are for making power you dont marry them.

[@Design_no]

@@freeagent8225 but you have to look at them, and maintain them and give them a decent burial.

[@freeagent8225]

@@Design_no Plenty in Europe in the Bsltic Sea.

[@les_spoddy4073]

@@freeagent8225 I seen a video of the ones int the North Sea near England some of them were broken in half, some on fire, over there has very high maintainance costs.

[@freeagent8225]

@@les_spoddy4073 I've only seen the ones near Keil, turning merrily, providing power for all. Maybe the Germsns just do it better?

[@Design_no]

The fact the need constant maintenance, only last 10-15 years and then need to go to landfill. Yes, many problems.

[@MKitchen75]

Yes and the materials are un recyclable , that truly is green energy.. killing birds etc... real ecofriendly solution ffs.. 😤

[@Retiredroamers]

They won’t last that long in Bass Strait, also the work boats and crane barges can’t work with swells over 2m That happens a lot.. what ever they say it’s going to cost, you could almost triple it before they are done….And none of them will generate 1 watt until the whole lot are completed and commissioned.

[@juliuscaesar2583]

Don't go against the narrative, give in to the science.

[@les_spoddy4073]

Also what are they going to do with Electric cars and the batterys when they die and even solar panels, I don't think they have thought this through very well and why are some European starting to back off the Net Zero by 2050 hmmmmm I wonder.

[@juliuscaesar2583]

There is a shit load of money to be made from the subsidies, that's why they keep pushing this crap, if they were really concerned with this so called climate change crap they would all be for nuclear power.

[@gardenkitty]

A huge windfarm only produces 20% of energy need? That hardly seems worth all the expense of manufacturing, building, maintaining, replacing discarding the old turbines.

[@juliuscaesar2583]

Someone is making a shit load of money from the subsidies, that's why they keep pushing this narrative, if they were serious about so called climate change they would be building nuclear plants all over the country. This is only about money,

[@justvisitingterra6459]

IT'S NOT. MAXXAUS.

[@dwade2026]

The cost of maintenance is outrageous

[@mikeharrison3618]

Made from fossil fuels. ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. HUMAN flourishing. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

Many billions of dollars has been wasted on the renewable and they still saying that the climate is getting worst.I wonder how many more billions of dollars are going to be wasted before the climate and our power bills begin to stabelize?

[@rogerthat487]

The cost of removal even worse when they die after 20 or so years even worse

[@The_rot_consumes.]

A lot cheaper than ageing fossil fuels

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

@@The_rot_consumes. What a load of Crap!....They can spend as many more billions of dollars as they like on the stupid renewables, but they will never fix the climate.

[@66steverose]

Maintaining offshore infrastructure is unbelievably expensive

[@The_rot_consumes.]

It’s worked for Belgium, the Netherlands, the UK, Germany, Denmark and others. And what about offshore oil and gas farms?

[@jimlofts5433]

@@The_rot_consumes. oh goody so Albo was right cheap reliable power - by the by hows things looking in EU right now

[@MnyamwezMnyamwez-vx1wb]

​@@The_rot_consumes.All OFFSHORE WIND FARMS in ALL the countries you have named pay astronomically more for every Megawatt hour produced in those farms compared to conventional sources.

[@vivianlouder8774]

*No Food, No Fuel, No Water =Anarchy*

[@Design_no]

I guess thats what is needed.

[@gulaggreens296]

I'm gonna turn government into shrunken heads for my personal collection

[@dogzebra2708]

This will never be practical. They fvckd up the sound with these things a few years back and they've already cost more to maintain and operate than they value of all the power the[y] will ever produce.

[@lesleyweber4585]

3 years of this rubbish,god help this country,it’s going to end in tears

[@matthewflinders1978]

“CO2 is so beneficial in other ways, it would be crazy to try and reduce it” quote from Freeman Dyson, eminent Scientist from Princeton university in the United States, an expert in climate studies with over six decades of experience. There we are, plants love carbon dioxide. Follow the science.

[@weburnitatbothends]

Bahaha yeah follow the science, like my Dyson vacuum cleaner, it's a shame he died, so much more work for him to disagree with

[@trenthaynes7444]

100% correct

[@johngeier8692]

Both the mean surface temperature of Earth (15 degrees centigrade) and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration (415ppm )are suboptimal. The carbon dioxide emissions are actually beneficial. Benefits include increased agricultural yields (main effect) reduced winter heating costs and fewer deaths from hypothermia. It is lunacy spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to prevent largely beneficial changes to the earth’s climate.

[@onepom63]

They know this but it’s all a big scam a con-job they’re snake oil salesmen peddling dodgy goods & getting kick backs from it, this is what happens when you vote in dodgy governments.

[@mikeharrison3618]

ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. HUMAN flourishing

[@thefleecer3673]

$400 to $800 billion in "renewable investments"? You could power the whole of Australia with 30 x 1,100 MW nuclear reactors. Average cost $7.5 billion each, totalling $225 billion. This renewable push is an unconscionable disaster

[@mikeharrison3618]

UNreliables=wind and solar. ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. HUMAN flourishing. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

[@thefleecer3673]

@niels lund South Korea build them in 56 months on average, that's less than 5 years. Australia could contract the South Koreans to future proof our country. It's a win for them and a win for us

[@The_rot_consumes.]

It takes a wind turbine 6 months maximum to pay itself off.

[@thefleecer3673]

@@The_rot_consumes. does that include construction, maintenance, decommissioning and disposal costs? Please provide a link that proves that

[@The_rot_consumes.]

@@thefleecer3673 yes, also nuclear reactors take too long to build and the power is too expensive

[@stokersruleok5863]

This green shit is getting out of hand!

[@kirkc4696]

It has already got out of hand!

[@vivianlouder8774]

*WEF cutting Dutch nitrogen by half, climate policy*

[@Design_no]

coming to Aus soon. The abc already chirping about it.

[@bullshitstomper9417]

Get worm farms and make your own nitrogen Become a nitrogen boot legged under the prohibition call it nite shine

[@praline4157]

And Netherlands and Ireland paying and putting on pressure to cull livestock. The CEO of a Netherlands bank and WEF member proposing that every individual be given a set carbon limit and credits. The less wealthy can then sell their carbon allowance credits to the wealthy so they can still jet around and yacht but then they less well off won’t have carbon credits. They can stay home and buy insects to eat with the money the rich jet set parts with to still live well and claim moral superiority.

[@jnagelmakers]

More expensive on water. How phucking convenient.

[@gulaggreens296]

China is the byrus

[@vivianlouder8774]

*They want to Frame the farmers*

[@stokersruleok5863]

The “ safe food acts” , you can’t share eggs, meat or veg with your neighbours? No agenda there ?

[@crowsfan691]

It's all fun and games until a container ship or fishing trawler collides with one.

[@soundsoflife9549]

What about a cyclone!

[@Widesight]

They aren’t built in shipping lanes so pretty unlikely. Offshore wind isn’t the complete solution but it does seem a good idea to have a few different energy solutions in the current climate I would have thought

[@The_rot_consumes.]

@@soundsoflife9549 we don’t have cyclones in Victoria

[@Widesight]

@@alegriart It's unlikely. There's a reason there aren't too many catastrophic collisions at sea. But if we want to avoid all possibility of risk in life then presumably we shouldn't build anything next to roads either.

[@vivianlouder8774]

*Technocratic digital dictatorship*

[@lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836]

I've seen those wind turbines fail on land...aren't there toxic materials (oil and battery acid) in those?

[@kirkc4696]

There most certainly are! And they can leach into soil when used in landfill.

[@lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836]

@@kirkc4696 That's what I thought! So let's plunk them in the ocean....WhAt CoUlD gO wRoNg?

[@jglee6721]

I heard that they can never seal the bearings and they spray hydraulic fluid polluting the land (and water) downwind.

[@lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836]

@niels lund Good to know. Thank you for sharing. My truck doesn't leak, I keep up on the maintenance. I've still seen my share of these turbines failing and don't think it wise to plunk them in the ocean. Plus it looks hazardous for ships. That's my humble opinion. Have a blessed day.

[@loiccharmoille9157]

​@kirkc please tell me what toxic materials are used in a wind turbine ? How much more toxic is it compared to a nuclear power plant ?

[@ginNjus]

And they put windfarms in salt water. Go figure.

[@fpvince4622]

I say we start a windbag farm, all these big government guys and gals can power all our stuff on treadmills.

[@catatetherat5138]

Never mind hurracain season. 😅😀😃😄😂

[@Prognosis__]

Locals will protest over this..imagine looking out your window and these monstrosities on the ocean

[@gulaggreens296]

It looks like a disease on the fine Earth

[@C.J.M..]

Locals? Like the 0.01% of ‘true patriots’ that protested during the pandemic 😂😂

[@Brains_Into_Monuments]

That'll work again. 🤣

[@DDisacookerandafreak]

@@C.J.M.. another nonsensical comment. That percentile looks like the number of people who succumb to COVID 😉

[@gulaggreens296]

@@C.J.M.. the rest are viral imports from Chyna

[@BudahOfBirmingham]

Offshore wind is used in the UK, because it's the cheapest way to produce power. Out in the sea you get stronger wind and no limits on the size of the turbine

[@kennethskjttstagistoft7203]

Firstly, no it is not. Perhaps the last tender came in with a unachievable number being repeated constantly in the media. The internal research from Equinor operating the largest offshore windfarm n the world off the Scottish coast shows that they are not even profitable in their own right due to moren downtime, higher maintenance costs and lower lifetimes than expected. Thus Equinor has just pulled out alltogether and depreciated a huge loss in their latest P&L. Get your facts straight before you claim things, please.

[@johnfitzsimmons9241]

Thank you Alan - we need your more reasoned comment - after all, Minister Bowen just said some proposed off-shore wind farm would power 20% of Victoria's houses, but didn't add "for typically only 20% of each day"!

[@jimlofts5433]

@niels lund only when the wind blows so they stiil need the grid and probably France's nuclear power

[@therealcnn5346]

Fuck Everyone is going to be pissed when they see a sea full of wind turbines

[@brodydaube4136]

This is touchy subject I wish I knew more about but I don't think this will be best option. It takes up too much space.

[@johngeier8692]

Wind has a low energy density and wind power is centuries out of date. The real problem is the Climate Delusion. The false and delusional belief that mans effects on the earth’s climate are significant and dangerous. They are small and largely beneficial.

[@vivianlouder8774]

*Secret police farmers to dob you in*

[@aaronvallejo8220]

Wind and solar PV as of 2022 are the cheapest and fastest sources of new electricity. That graph looks like from 2005. Offshore costs are dropping fast and the potential for all coastal cities as absolutely enormous. Everything is impossible and too costly if you look at wrong data and you want the transition to be impossible.

[@loiccharmoille9157]

Agree, this is obvious misinformation and it tells a lot about the credibility of the show and the speakers

[@nami1540]

Yep. And it was right out of excel. No sources offered.

[@chopperking007]

Why are all politicians so clueless ?

[@jnagelmakers]

How the fuck do you sleep at night covering treason. such evil.

[@gulaggreens296]

With all the finest goods Chinese Yuan can buy

[@vivianlouder8774]

*A Global Financial Coup d’État.*

[@vivianlouder8774]

*No Energy No Economy*

[@mikeharrison3618]

Energy POWERS every other industry. ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. HUMAN flourishing. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

[@bullshitstomper9417]

They’re space it like stupid Who designed this garbage So one falls down don’t hit the other ?

[@cynwalts771]

If they hurt one whale its too much of a cost. Bloody ugly blight on the scenery. Go nuke...

[@AximandTheCursed]

Massive waste of money, resources, and they will not deliver the power on the nameplates, certainly not reliably, and the maintenance requirements are beyond the pale. Stop procrastinating and unlock the nuclear potential.

[@AximandTheCursed]

@niels lund With the right project management and fabrication, a nuclear plant can be made in less than 6 years, and potentially last 100. An offshore wind farm will not last 10, and never make back the amount of energy it took to manufacture and place, whereas a nuclear plant would only need a few months.

[@AximandTheCursed]

@niels lund ...And if you believe that, you'll believe anything; the typical water-based nuclear reactor runs at around ~300C, a few degrees warmer than seasonal temperature on the secondary loop is not an issue, it's a policy-based one if anything. Also the first commercial wind farm was built in 1991 in Denmark, and has been decommissioned already. If you're talking about the one in Northumberland, that's already been decommissioned too, No offshore wind farm that was running in 2000 is still active today! And not a single one has ever produced the amount of energy that would provide the full energy cost for their smelting, construction and erection in their operational lifetimes, stop lying!

[@AximandTheCursed]

@niels lund Was bored into a coma by your ignorance, France is keeping half the EU's lights on exporting excess energy at considerable profit when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow which is more than half the time in both cases. Any problems with nuclear are policy-generated, usually by the green morons who need to feather their own nests by demanding that the renewable BS gets prioritised for consumption over sources that can be turned on and off regardless of weather or seasonal conditions. For instance, in the last 6 months of 2021, France exported over 21.5 Terawatt hours of energy, mostly to Italy and the UK. Nuclear remains the record holder for most consecutive days of over 90% generation with 739 days without refueling... when solar hits day 1 of this, I might be impressed.

[@kyrollos0208]

Another issue that must be addressed with offshore wind farms is the farms' vulnerability to enemy attack because they are located out there away from land. Australia's Navy must be able to constantly defend the offshore wind farms and monitor surrounding sea regions for enemy sea vessels and weapons. Enemy attacks on the wind farms may even come from the sky.

[@johngeier8692]

The enemy would be doing us a big favour.

[@kyrollos0208]

@@johngeier8692 Not if Australia relies significantly on the wind farms for energy security.

[@mikeharrison3618]

Chinese have the corner on the market so they are happy to see the West weakening itself with UNreliables which they will supply us while continuing for the next 40 years to build coal capacity for themselves.

[@jeandaby6488]

Those monstrosities leak oil into the water constantly.

[@nomyafiftyonefifty8081]

Don't these turbines contain 600 gallons of oil for the gearbox in each one.

[@cadaeishere8242]

Only until they catch fire.

[@ausforaus7617]

Oh for fks sake! How many times have we heard, "jobs rich, energy rich" Bullshit!

[@lupcokotevski2907]

So problematic, not least the engineering. A disaster in the making.

[@cadaeishere8242]

Wait until end of life and the (lack) of a recycling program.

[@johnprendergast1338]

Salt water ,wind and a short time are required to expose this convoluted / expensive nightmare ....

[@casualgamerreed]

Free food for the fish

[@awc900]

Wave power might be a better solution.

[@steveh7108]

Probably would be, just like tide pools and reservoirs. But then they would have to fight all the millionaires with their Oceanside properties.

[@polarbear5496]

Spent millions on one off the coast of Port Kembla Australia through Wollongong University. Failed miserable with constant breakdowns and unreliability. The system is now dumped in a carpark rusting away. Millions $ down the drain.

[@dogzebra2708]

Or tidal power both of which are a lot more predictable, reliable, and consistent than wind or sunshade.

[@cadaeishere8242]

Very harsh environment.

[@les_spoddy4073]

Good luck putting wind farms off South Gippsland because that's Bass Straight it is the roughest passage of water in the world it would be far too dangerous I know I was born and raised there and I don't think those wind turbines would last very long at all. A few years ago the Spirit of Tasmania not a small ship was crossing one night and it got two thirds of the way across heading to Melbourne and had to turn back and the ship had millions of dollars of damage to it (so good luck with that one).

[@daz1963]

Western Aussie here, 200klm south of Perth.. This winter we have had a few storms And really stuff all wind ...

[@emmaandangus946]

Yes I live 100 kms inland from Perth and last 3 months we have had very little wind

[@Vladviking]

You know these windmills don't last forever, seems they only have a 20 to 25 year expected life. If that is so you will have thousands of them due to be replaced well before you want that responsibility.

[@The_rot_consumes.]

A windmill only takes 6 months to pay itself off

[@Vladviking]

@@The_rot_consumes. LOL

[@ThomasTomiczek]

Stupid question from a non-Australian: Is Australia not populated BASICALLY on the coastline (MOSTLY)? Would that not leave a LOT of land for wind and solar farms? Just saying. Where no one is no one will complain about all the windmills and their sound (low as it is) and how they destroy the landscape.

[@kirkc4696]

Rubbish!

[@DDisacookerandafreak]

It’s not a stupid question. It’s very fair. However, the answer will be stupid or just not exist at all. That’s the Australian way.

[@cadaeishere8242]

Easier to take a boat trip for a few km than drive for a day or two to the big empty bits. Similarly the transmission cables, costs and losses. If these things were reliable and efficient then they could be put anywhere and who cares about the losses. Sadly the economics are not that good.

[@bigbopper143]

How stupid is this idea. They need constant wind to drive them but wind at sea is the enemy of the service teams. Just STUPID

[@ralphpeirson8475]

I believe that Australia has Hurricanes. So how can these offshore windfarms stand up to a category 5 hurricane?? This seems like a whole new level of stupid!

[@chairmandan1794]

Everything is possible, it all comes with great costs.

[@catatetherat5138]

At one time they were crying that the windmills would kill all the birds what happened. 👀 🇺🇸

[@therealcnn5346]

Then you do it!

[@The_rot_consumes.]

However windmill farms pay themselves off in 6 months. Try better

[@chairmandan1794]

@@The_rot_consumes. Well based on your economics they should be everywhere.

[@catatetherat5138]

@@chairmandan1794 they won't be

[@jayjones8181]

Some country will get filthy rich making all of those turbines.

[@Lady-Antoinette]

Yep! That’d be China

[@lj3571]

Two south Gippsland farmers have just been compensated because of noise and depreciation of land, think carefully where you put them ,way out sea maybe your only choice🌊

[@johnlovett6704]

Put the wind farms in Canberra; there is plenty of HOT AIR crap coming from there. Enough to power the needs of all Aussies.

[@henryhryckiewicz858]

They never state the cost, suppy and how long the life span? Then how much to replace and maintenance?

[@justvisitingterra6459]

TELL HIM HE'S DREAMIN' . MAXXAUS .

[@jeffreysmith5230]

Who ever owns the patin on the wind turbine and the materials are going to get rich rich rich.

[@jimlofts5433]

does any else see the problem - more jobs and cheaper power in the same sentence ??? how can you have both

[@Wayne-ig1il]

If it’s not Seismic blasting killing recruitment small marine life which has had a big impact on fishing industry and now offshore wind turbines 👎

[@oldtimers6460]

Off shore wind is extreme high cost , extreme high maintenance with extreme high wear rates due to salt . Cannot see where the cheaper power comes in ,more expensive i can go with . Who supplies all this wind power -China is the winner . Then no one talks about recycling wind or solar ,at the moment most go to land fill .

[@newrenewableenergycontrol5724]

If you redesign your hydro to eliminate accelerated mass losses, your hydro power will increase by five times. And no carbon.

[@suemackill734]

The cables that transport the electricity to mainland affects crabs, they get disorientated and died.

[@infidel202]

How much extra load will electric cars put on the grid if 80%of them are charged at night

[@nami1540]

No sources for the data on the excel-made graph? As far as I know, coal is already more expensive than wind and solar on land.

[@johnmurray8267]

What? They Will electrocute the poor little fishes. No Way.

[@truck6859]

Where is the video y'all posted on the U.N.'s own energy report, saying wind and solar have received hundreds of billions of $, but supply 3% of the world's energy?

[@juliuscaesar2583]

What an awful sight,

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

The continuous noises from the offshore wind farms are extremely harmful to the whales

[@bushranger7646]

That would be an easy target for a foreign country. Wind turbines situated in inland Australia choke on dust and we never hear of that. And where will these windy wonders come from...China?

[@simonbowman6206]

OK THIS IS A BIT LONG WINDED BUT WORTH IT,,,, So we are told dams are bad for the environment because of the large amount of concrete used right ? SO as best as i can tell to date all of Australia's operational wind farms have consumed enough concrete to make two medium sized dams now a long with the blade issues lets do a side by side workup. A dam lasts 100 plus years makes more power than the wind farms is true baseload power near enough 97% recyclable and last time i looked i have never seen a fresh water impoundment were mother nature has said no thanks we dont wish to live there THE PLACE IS SWARMING WITH LIFE so dams bad ok if u say so. WIND FARM massive slab of concrete to hold the hole thing up & blades that to date have no plant to recycle them are not true baseload power and last at best 25 years right??

[@yggdrasil9039]

Put windfarms in Teal electtorates and coal mines and coal-fired power stations in the middle of Liberal electorates, good idea Chris.

[@Retiredroamers]

We will take another coal fired power station in the Latrobe Valley, all the infrastructure is already there..

[@tommywharton7605]

Thank god for sky news Australia, we don't get this reporting in Ireland

[@thomas4315]

One single hurricane of a heavy 27 hurricane a season could damage just one. The propellers broke. The whole line is turn of as they are wires in series to get high votage. Same as they are geared 6-1 to get faster 5 thousand rpm from a slow Turning propeller. So it need part change maintenance every yr lot of friction with sea air moisture. Lots of moving bearing parts. All slowing rusting

[@loiccharmoille9157]

Dear Alan, Can you please share what are your sources for the cost comparison . It looks very outdated. LCOE for wind and solar is now by far the cheapest of all technologies. There is lots of misinformation in your reportage. Wind farms don't have a "20 years lifestyle", but rather a 30 years lifetime.

[@LoneStranger0]

As usual Mr Bowen, you are talking bollocks on this deluded wind farm hype. If allowed to pursue this lunacy, you will send the country broker than we are now!!!!

[@davefoord1259]

Why is noone saying even at the highest cost per mwh that comes out at 12cents per kwh. Why am i paying 3x that or more?

[@kerrycox9226]

Wind energy conversion. In layman's terms, I will explain why 'renewables' are not going to solve the energy needs of a society that takes for granted that turning on a light is a simple process. Wind is not something we 'farm'. Wind is a result of the rotation of the earth at the speed of 1000 Kph at the equator. A wind harnessing device called a wind mill uses this force to push huge aerofoils in one direction that are mounted on a central shaft that has a generator comprising of metallic elements, mostly copper, central to producing the power they are designed for, that requires no fossil fuel to operate. But what it takes to get this machine upright and positioned in such a way and in a place that will cause this physical reaction to take place is something that people are not made aware of, for fear of a concerted back lash by those who have every right to be wary and concerned of the detrimental impact they have on the surrounding countryside and those who live close by . What is involved to get it to that stage and the energy and materials needed to create these machines in it's self is, in no way, is a simple process. Unlike the explanations our governments give us to have us blindly accept there is no other alternative, other than nuclear power, and that is their scare the shit out of us gun. Starting with the mines that all the raw materials come from, then the transportation of this raw material to where they are converted into the millions of individual items such as nuts and bolts and washers to stop them from falling apart requires huge amounts of fossil fuels to power the tractors and trucks and locomotives and ships to get it to the first stage of their production. Using the energy created by coal burning power generators to produce not only the steel needed but for every single item required to have the finished product that will end up cluttering up our skyline and oceans, will take thousands of tons of coal and gas to produce the type of energy required to produce the steel these machines are made of, and that means carbon emissions. Getting all the components to the site needed for the assembly is a major logistical effort that takes thousands of people to perform, all depending on the machinery called cars. boats. and planes to do so. All consuming power that is not produced by coal, but is a vital element in the so called reduction of our dependency on carbon producing fuels for humans and industry to survive. As soon as these machines are on the ground, they start deteriorating and have what is called 'A use by date' after which there will be the requirement to replace them with new ones, and that will end up being thousands at any one time, and very little if anything of them can or will be recycled due to the nature of some of the materials used in their construction, such as the aerofoil blades that are made of synthetics that are not biodegradable. Taking into consideration the average cost to have these machines operating is up to fifty million dollars at a time, it is usually the governments who will subsidize these projects. Believing there will be a return on the money invested in these projects, assisting the multi national companies who control all the natural resources and the extraction of the elements required for the manufacture of all things associated with the renewable energy market.. Solar panels included demanding funds to prop up a process that is flawed. Everything produced for the renewable energy market has to be replaced every five to seven years, and when they are replaced, it will be at twice the cost of the original, due to the depletion of all the natural resources being used becoming more expensive to mine and process. It is self a defeating exercise to keep thinking that 'renewables' can replace our growing thirst for our electronic device driven society to bare. Carbon reduction. ? That went out the door the second they thought that creating millions of tons of carbon in the production of all these devices by burning whats left of our fossil fuels was a good idea. Clueless. The whole lot of them.

[@edwardlsanders]

In the UK offshore wind is far cheaper than onshore wind power. This is due to the higher capacity factor. The UK cost of offshore wind is 3.7p/kWh. This is far cheaper than other forms of energy in the UK

[@aaronvallejo8220]

Oh oh can't say that on here. Clearly they do not want current data and economics. They are using cost graph from roughly 2005 haha

[@gerrtryks2944]

Too many problems with offshore wind turbines costly to maintain refer to Germany decrease in the construction of off wind farms we should be thinking about Thorium salt water reactors a lot less pollution refer to Copan Hagan Atomic

[@devintompkins9626]

Hmm. I wonder if by the bird's that die by flying into these things, do you think it will attract more marine life to these wind farms to feast on an easy meal? If so wouldn't that indirectly be a massive fish farm 😆

[@jglee6721]

I heard also that they can never seal the bearings and they basically spray hydraulic fluid the whole time causing pollution to the land and water they are situated on. They should be scrutinized on this issue if it's true.

[@jglee6721]

@niels lund Yes, you're a f***ing genius who knows how to design bearings for that huge structure without any leaks.

[@stevehewitt1151]

We can't do ONE Snowy Hydro!

[@stuartbedwell8576]

Boy o boy. This fella tells whoppers- and gets away with em. How come? Perhaps too many sheep in Down Under? Cheers Stuart.

[@rogerthat487]

UK, Europe, US wind farms generally but offshore in particular have been a social and environmental disaster. Not enough electricity, intractable waste buried - out of sight out of mind. Aust has the opportunity to learn for thier mistakes - to repeat them would be monumental stupidity.

[@chopperking007]

How to make a hard to service wind turbine harder to service....stick it in the sea .....omfg.

[@youbigtubership]

Insanity. Utterly crazy.

[@robinwood590]

One by one they explode and all the oil and grease, and all the contamination let into the ocean into the living creatures living due.

[@popoffs5273]

I think it would be better to put a wind turbine in each neighborhood to generate power for the homes. I honestly really like the idea of home solar and battery storage because it give me the ability to make my own power without reliance on the grid.

Wind works awfully on a small scale.

[@popoffs5273]

@@alegriart good point, I didn't think of that.

[@davidbarnsley8486]

How about the destruction of the ocean environment why are we not discussing that 1 nuclear power plant will power half the state for a third the cost and will last 3 times as long 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@fourgedmushrooms5958]

Nuclear power Baby! We can trade for coal or gass with Japanese, for their nuclear technological skills

[@thomasdiaz2581]

no nuclear power station , more pollution with the coolant water and remove the electrodes when they have finish

[@yggdrasil9039]

You can't do 25 snowy hydros and why would you want to when there are so many other far cheaper LDES systems.

[@chris-non-voter]

Before you beleive this "jobs rich hype" check out haw many jobs were created in the UK for offshore windfarms and how many jobd were created over seas for British wind farms. You will be amazed.

[@gingertom56]

More wind turbines firm themselves up there is always wind some were. Also they have started installing new wind turbines with recyled made blades. Kenny just do a few googles begore trying to shooting of the Rupert Murdoch's line. Or is it lachlan who is the muppet master???

[@johnsbackwithcommonsense7628]

We will power the earth with Wind Farms and Unicorn farts .

[@rogerthatone8474]

Windmills only last 5 years!! the blades deteriorate pretty quickly!!

[@rogerthatone8474]

@niels lund I don't think so! The blades are fiber glass and the leading edges deteriorate from UV and natural elements and have to be replaced!!

[@Nibby12]

Proof of the lie that the sea level is rising.

[@lawrencewyvill8040]

20% in one state hahaha Labor are fucking dreaming 🤣 😂

[@stephengrocott3917]

hows the doco going ?

[@markwilkins8314]

Add boats for more complexity

[@stephenrobbins6353]

What percentage is not even turning

[@KeepItSimpleSailor]

This report is comically incompetent.

[@deanhunter1753]

What's china building again for cheap power to run their massive manafacturing market ? Windmills lol 😂