‘Turbine graveyards’ sprawled across Texas

[@raa8201]

I'm a Texan, but also have farmland in Iowa. We were approached around 12 years ago about putting some of these windmills on our land. When I asked them about my main concern, which was what happens, who pays for, and who removes it when it has reached its lifespan, all you heard was crickets. They had no idea. When I pressed the issue, I never heard from them again. That pretty much answered my concerns.

[@actionau]

Yikes. How super sketchy can you get?

[@harrisbeatsfrankou6304]

so they vandalize your farm? sounds legit, damn the leftists are freaks.

[@tommas2674]

oh, come on LET'S all eat bug guts. and bonus of Fake green for the Fake virtuous for having NO virtue, we are at .04% CO2 at .02 CO2 ALL plant life dies, now, no O2 to be made of the CO2 that nourishes plants, no protection from storms, no Food, We die. Mess with God's resources.

[@333elliott]

Canada : Make a wall out of them ?

[@calichekid8527]

@@FourthWayRanch It is relatively easy to plug an old oil well and remediate the site compared to how we're going to get rid of these blade. Probably have to grind them up.

[@onazram1]

You know these windmill manufacturers were large campaign contributors, like other "clean energy" manufacturers and suppliers.... Climate change is big business, and that is all it is!

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

Yes it is, right down to the process of submitting applications for research grants; they are more likely to succeed if they are phrased in a manner which appeals to the green movement, and if their theories and thus hypotheses are consistent with the prevailing nonsensical views on climate, which Alan Jones did an excellent job of debunking, in an interview with Nils Axel-Morner, several years ago: 18.06.2019: Alan Jones "New sun-driven cooling period of Earth 'not far off'".

[@CarriUSA]

And the majority are FOREIGN, subsidized by tax payer!

[@HollyMoore-wo2mh]

@@CarriUSA china

[@gregm8116]

Dump them in deep ocean trenches... Subduct them into the mantle....

[@virtual2152]

They're ok. They held out 10% for the Big Guy.

[@janetd4862]

My dad owned farm ground (now my siblings and I do). Dad told us to NEVER allow anyone to put a wind turbine on our land. He was concerned about that “end of life” issue. Who pays to take it down? ….to remove the foundation? What if the company who put it in is now out of business? And, environmentally, what do you do with it once it’s removed? You’re in “tornado alley”…what happens if a tornado comes through there? I feel like someone ran with an idea without thinking it through.

[@drummerlovesbookworm9738]

Bless your Dad’s wisdom. May he RIP. His legacy is sensible children.

[@denise8242]

Follow the money

[@Mike-or3ry]

Alex Epstein 's "FOSSIL FUTURE" on sale now. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. HUMAN FLOURISHING

[@pete_lind]

The steel, iron, aluminum, copper, concrete, and electronics of wind turbine, foundations, towers, and wiring can all be recycled. Massive concrete structures are smashed to rubble everyday by demo crews, you have an excavator with a jackhammer to do that work. YT clip about it ... Komatsu Excavator with Hydraulic Breaker / Hammer / Jackhammer Stop whining, you can build grain silos on those foundations, or storm shelter, hurricanes are typical to Texas, remember that you do need permit to build a storm shelter.

[@java4653]

Like when you invaded Iraq? LOL. It's hilarious that you only care once it affects you. No wonder Texas has so many infrastructure problems.

[@rozbailey6889]

Nobody seem to take responsibility for any of these issues - I’m sick and tired of the green agenda

[@coconuciferanuts339]

Many are,including myself. What really gets me is the RUSH ! Greenies seem like impetuous children.Quick,we've got to save the planet. Instead,ok,try some alternative energy systems,see how they go,but retain the tried & tested,or/improve on what we've got.

[@raymondstrehl3679]

Ok I'm joining the me too

[@anonygrazer3234]

@@raymondstrehl3679 The only legitimate "Me Too" I've ever heard of, so far.

[@old-pete]

That has nothing to do with a green agenda, but politicians being easy on companies. In other countries companies HAVE TO take responsibility by law. And you do not see such a mess there.

[@herbsuperb6034]

It's not a 'Green' Agenda. It's an Anti-America, Anti-Human agenda. Leftism is evil.

[@farmer9180]

Remove the tax breaks and see how many new wind farms would be built.

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

Ding, ding, ding! The "Green New (crappy) Deal" is nothing more than a revenue stream for buddies of government officials.

[@josephgaviota]

Bingo. It's a giant scam to get we the taxpayers to make the greenies rich.

[@robertkaspert4092]

That's the same with all of these renewal energy crap, you are right.

[@chriswilliams8607]

as power from a wind turbine costs about a third of every thermal powerplants power your argument is BS

[@josephgaviota]

@@chriswilliams8607 IF wind and solar were better, we wouldn't have to be forced to use it.

[@tomkirtley4534]

I am a Brit and in the UK we have been repeatedly told renewables will give us all cheap energy = Cheap for the suppliers we the customers have seen our energy bills treble in price - In my world that's called Bullshit

[@jeffdumpster1470]

I guess we should block traffic until this injustice is addressed.

[@thedave7760]

I'll get the super glue, can someone else get the police to bring some tea for us all.

[@jeffb6153]

Use the blades to block the roads that eco zealots live on and their driveways.

[@Lillyboo65640]

​@jeffb6153 yes !!

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

@@thedave7760 A German 'demonstrator' used superglue and sand. The police had to use an angle grinder to remove a section of road, and the 'demonstrator' had to walk away with it attached to his hand, which was at risk of amputation. People who play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[@SuperMikado282]

Well said, my friend.

[@3Storms]

They siezed productive farms as well as flattened large patches of pristine natural woodlands for that "because it's good for the planet."

[@frankpeletz1818]

Over 20 years, Scotland removed 14 MILLION trees for wind power. Each tree removes 48 lbs of co2 a year. Thats is a total of 670 MILLION lbs of co2 a year ,just so a wind generator can be placed there-and this is just one small country.

[@clydesimpson1462]

Australias poorly educated energy minister is allowing the wholesale destruction of 1 million hectares of pristine forest and koala habitat for his glorified windmills.

[@ohsweetmystery]

Lazy landowners who want money for not doing anything.

[@raymondstrehl3679]

That's so F...Up I'm .. Had it....

[@Nomadcreations]

Yep The Oxy-moron-ic Of So called Social-Thinkers which Just comes Down to The Middle word. ....................

[@skeetermc4876]

I live in Sweetwater, Texas and ive seen these blades pile up in the yards for 10 or more years. They stay rotting in the yards, becoming bee infested and rattlesnake dens. Most of the yards are in city limits near children. They say that put them there for recycling. I've never seen one blade leave the site.

[@The_Resistance_1961]

"Unfortunately we had to destroy the village in order to save it." Vietnam dogma.

[@Biosynchro]

You can always use those blades for craft projects, I guess. /sarc

[@geoffreytoomey682]

Fantastic news, Thanks to Albosleezy and his acolyte Chris Bowen of the “United Nations Australian Labor Government” and special Thanks to Albosleezy's mate Klaus Schwab, the boss of the World Economic Forum and his Puppets in the United Nations, who created the Climate Change scam, the only way to stop the WEF=WHO=UNs apparent Climate Change is to destroy our industries, borrow heaps of money and give it the UN? I'm getting into the recycling business; with the Green energy replaceable industries being fully supported by the sheeple of the world, recycling solar panels, wind turbines, Batteries, and electric vehicles is growing exponentially and unstoppable now, and because they are so short-lived hence the catchy name “replicable” the media calls them “Renewable” sounds better for the Sheeple, renewable ha ha , the best bit is that Albosleezy’s “United Nations Australian Labor Government” will subsidise all the recycling businesses of the Green industries and also subsidise the landfill of toxic and unrecyclable parts, I've heard the new designated name for these many new Landfill facilities, will be "Green landfill projects", this is a growing Green gold mine. Made possible By the UN Member Country Politician TRAITORS pushing the WEF=UN=WHO invented CLIMATE CHANGE Scam that has sucked in the Sheeple, Green is actually very brown and never supposed to be successful supplying energy, BUT! it working to bankrupt the UN-Member Countries. Australia is being controlled by the most treasonous UN Government. Labor/Greens dreadfully either idiots or deliberate TRAITORS

[@matc4t]

Anything else you want to complain about? Your papa must be embarrassed to have raised such a snowflake.

[@garfieldwood8315]

Now the "Recycling company" went bankrupt...

[@archcollie5708]

This is the tip of a very large iceberg. Wait until millions of tons of toxic solar glass joins the unrecyclable fiberglass / carbon fiber turbine blades and batteries. When this "renewable" folly fails, which is a certainty, watch those responsible for the mess run and cower.

[@craigirwin4771]

Just like they just admitted the wall works.

[@rw-xf4cb]

They will be long gone enjoying their kickbacks or for politicians their tax paid pensions for life.

[@SamsungSamsung-md9xq]

There goes your ev energy,a reality I look forward to,enough already!@

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

They'll find someone else to blame. A conservative maybe.

[@jimgiordano2576]

Bingo. you nailed it.

[@docmach8794]

I was with a crew who delivered nacelles for wind generators from Hutchinson Ks. to Comanche Tx. The complete system was "supposed" to last 20 years and take 10 million for each unit. Basically, they are viable through subsidies alone. They would need to produce at least 500 thousand dollars a year for 20 years just to break even. Green? Hell no. Think about the extraction of metals through mining. The ore is blasted, diesel loaders fill huge Electro Haulers to the rail system, the ore is transported to Lakers then taken to be refined in blast furnaces, smelted, shipped to processors, shaped into sheets, shipped to be turned into the needed towers, copper for the windings is mined and goes through the same process, then when all components are ready they are loaded onto convoys of tractor trailers and transported to the site hundreds of miles, off loaded and cranes are used to erect them. The blades are made in places like Grand Forks North Dakota using similar metals and also petrochemicals for the resins used. I make this point because if you calculated all of the Diesel for transportation, the petrochemicals for the manufacturing the coal for the furnaces, gasoline for the chase vehicles and all of the oil in the nacelles for lubrication and cooling, you will understand these things are NOT green. Now you have a ticking timebomb getting stacked higher and higher hoping somebody will figure out what to do with the parts.

[@bluejay3333]

Who is profiting from the manufacturing of the wind generators? Ten years later people are going to realize they made a huge mistake putting them on their farms! Michigan has several, it’s ruining the look of the landscape, red blinking lights at night is so annoying!! Now it’s solar panels being pushed, so ugly to see row after row .

[@RS-ls7mm]

I hate wind generators for many reasons but they are actually very profitable in the short term. Most have paybacks in only 2 years. The ecological devastation for this greed is being completely overlooked in the name of money. (both sides are profiting so I don't see an end)

[@raymondstrehl3679]

Any time the Govt. pushes something You know someone's getting screwed

[@raymondstrehl3679]

A bunch

[@RS-ls7mm]

@@raymondstrehl3679 In the short time I lived in California I used to have fairly cheap earthquake insurance. Then the government decided to help (themselves) and the cost quadrupled and the coverage drastically decreased. Leftists are more greedy than any capitalist.

[@SandraBegotka]

I live in Mills County Texas. These things were built all around my small straw bale house (a true energy-efficient- green home). Now there are not many days when I don't live amidst the sounds of these things. ROARING. Booming. They pulse my house...I can actually feel it in my body. They might be making us ill....hard to know. But we have had new "bad feelings" arise since they came online. Headaches....nausea. Not to mention they are ugly. The landscape has absolutely been diminished by their presence. Anyone saying otherwise is either lying or a complete moron. Flashing red lights at night...dot the horizons all around. When people here tried to organize and raise a voice against them THREATS were made by those who wanted the $$. The money is crumbs from the tablecloth and a blatant bribe to get (apparently) $ desperate people to allow these on their property. It's sickening.

[@supernova743]

Sound can cause some of the symtoms youre experiencing.

[@geoffreytoomey682]

Trust the science and I do, that’s how I know the WEF=EU=WHO=UN CLIMATE CHANGE prediction is not just the greatest scam resulting in the greatest TREASON by UN Member Country POLITICIANS implemented the” carbon tax” and “net zero” replicable brown energy bull ship onto their citizens in living memory>>>>>>>> The success of the WEF=EU=WHO=UN Climate Change scam for wealth redistribution from all UN Member countries to the Globalist elite MONSTERS , in all but a few countries like Russia with strong Leaders, the Globalist MONSTERS plan is working perfectly! Affordable electricity for homes and industries, “CARBON TAX THEFT” electric cars, smart meters, poisoning cattle. All of these disasters successfully created by the Globalist MONSTERS puppets you call your government POLITICIAN and over paid bureaucrats (the question must be asked are our government politician’s idiots or knowing TRAITORS?) CO2 is the reason there is life as we know it on this planet>>>>>>>>>>> The Dictionary defines TREASON; “Treason” is when a person acts against his/ her country. ... A treasonous person is called a TRAITOR! Outside the field of law, the word "traitor" can be used to describe a person who betrays a group to which he or she belongs!>>>>>>>>>>>>

[@johnkemas7344]

These turbine blades are common everywhere in mountain areas or plains areas in the USA, including here in PA in the Alleghany Mountain Range near State College PA and central PA areas. You now see many non-running dead units here in PA that have been damaged, or not serviceable or at end of life. When they fail they re too costly to repair so they sit, sometimes catch fire from lack of being maintained etc. Fatigue and stress cracks are common modes of failure. Fiberglass is nearly impossible to recycle cleanly. It is the same situation as recycling tires. It can be done but at a massive non-profitable cost generating its' own form of pollution. All about the profit - being clean and green has nothing to do with it. Just another GREEN WEENIE farce to make money of an unsuspecting public and stupid government politicians giving away big grants. This really is a sad state of affairs.

[@lutomson3496]

here in california we went through this decades ago when the subsidies died, all shut down garbage but the government now forces subsidies and utility companies to buy this expensive unreliable power..take away the mandates and subsidies these will die off like it did in the past

[@StsFiveOneLima]

Damned things are ugly as shiiit.

[@old-pete]

@@lutomson3496 It would help if they took away the subsidies from fossil fuels. The new generation of windturbines are cheaper than fossil fuels.

[@roadwarrior3315]

@@old-pete and you still refuse to acknowledge the problem

[@leonardlongoria1891]

@@old-petedude, do you not get it? This is a scam. We have an abundance of fossil fuels! Especially here in the US. Do yourself a favor and take your blinders off.

[@davidhagerman7165]

I live in Texas and made a trip from Austin to Lubbock Texas this week and personally saw several sites full of wind turbine used blades. Near Snyder texas northwest of Sweetwater Texas they are digg a huge pit the covers about one square mile area. It right next to a large wind mill area it appears to be a pit to bury the wind turbine blades. There are several locations with stacks of used blades. Those piles of blades are at several locations and are strung along 150 miles of highway. How many are further out in the pasture lands out of site? IT IS A HUGE HAZORDOUS WAIST ISSUE.

[@random2829]

I have made the trip across I-30 too many times to count. I have noticed a large decrease in the number of wind turbines in the Sweetwater area over the years. Speaking of pasture and farm land - I think these turbines take up at least a half-acre to 3/4 of an acre. That is a LOT of land that CAN NOT be used for anything else.

[@chucklesthered2338]

Europe is trying to hide these piles in the middle of forests so people don't see them. They use the "out of sight, out of mind" practice.

[@transparentglazier]

@@random2829 I have been told that the vibrations chase away the ground insects and animals that are part of agriculture requiring more use of pesticides and fertilizers

[@johnwalker8417]

No not really in comparison to oil and coal. Not.

[@johnwalker8417]

Fyi, the waist is where some folks wear a belt

[@johnlewis8165]

If a blade shatters in a storm, it spreads razor sharp Fiberglass Filiments all over the area, and then the field can never safely be used for pasture or hay making.

[@ZippyPiglin36]

They erode Microplastics, Epoxy, and other Particulate Matter in air in general during any operation. Definitely way less than Coal Thermal, but unlike Nuclear it ain't zero.

[@tomaskey6844]

I’m a Pilot Vehicle Operator that steers the trailers for the trucks that deliver the blades and we haul a lot of replacement blades. I’ve seen where new components are put on older towers. FYI; every single tower has a huge diesel engine powered generator in it!

[@gooble69]

You should take some photos and post them online.

[@msimon6808]

Let me repeat. You should take some photos and post them online.

[@tomaskey6844]

@@judythomas2939 It is used to power the equipment during maintenance and to operate equipment when the blades are not turning. They can rotate the blade angles, turn the nacelles and keep the blades at a slow rotation when there is no wind so that the bearings and seals stay lubricated. These things are full of electrical gear for monitoring, controlling, operating, and remote communication.

[@gooble69]

@@judythomas2939 Not OP so not sure of the exact answer, but I believe in colder places they put electric heaters in them to 'winterize' them. And if the wind isn't blowing then the only place to get electricity from is Diesel. Fossil Fuels save the day again!

[@cynthiasmith7493]

@@tomaskey6844 And also full of crap that is not "green". Why should we be stuck with them?

[@camiisle6535]

Not to mention they have to keep them greased with petroleum products to keep them moving. So "green".

[@rw-xf4cb]

Whale blubber, fat off birds (Mutton Bird oil?) Lard harvesting off humans could be good suck it out and get paid by the KG...

[@elaineteut9579]

Yes, we have lots of them and you can see the oil or grease drip down the sides on some of them.

[@haitolawrence5986]

Pixie dust needs more money for further exploration.

[@Pyjamarama11]

Couldn't they use a patchouli-oil or some sesame extract to lubricate ?

[@Jim-P]

@@Pyjamarama11No

[@speedysteve9121]

Drove down US-219 last week. Half of the turbines are out of commission. They are less than 30 years old.

[@fhuber7507]

They found that the newer super-long blades don't survive operation during rain... the tip speed of the upward moving blade plus speed of raindrops causes rain to impact and crack the leading edges. They rapidly have blade failure.

[@backcountyrpilot]

The propellers on float planes also experience pitting caused by water droplets splashing up from the lake.

[@josephklimchock5412]

Exactly, the tips of the blades are also moving faster in the arc of the circle than say 2 FT out from the center, this causes harmonics that will crack the blades over time. While blade design can minimize this, nothing can totally prevent it. Basic physics.

[@TheDetektiveConan]

​@tomr6955 cavitation is the sudden vaporisation, caused by a pressure drop, and then following implosion of the steam bubble which causes a pressure spike high enough to "eat" away the material. The damage at the turbine tips would be caused by the rapidly moving tips (200km/h / 120mi/h) colliding with the falling waterdroplets.

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

There is a far more efficient, smaller wind turbine. It's vertical, and doesn't have to be on a long pole. I haven't looked into it very much. I've had enough of the subject, because there are so many liars in this field, and the social media/multimedia platforms which support them.

[@robertboykin1828]

I had on my sail boat, that suffered a lot of storms, never had a problem about that, thank God. It had a circhit that slowed it down so storms would not destroy it from OVERSPEEDING. Called stasis.

[@alwaysthinkingneversleeping]

I'm glad somebody is reporting on this. Though while I'm watching I got to pay attention to if it is mentioned how toxic this green energy is. How toxic turbines, solar panels, and other things to go into their supposed clean-energy are.

[@HollyMoore-wo2mh]

The Green New Lie. The people that are pushing this have NO CLUE. They are just making sure their donors get theirs.

[@ironworkerfxr7105]

Fiberglass is made from STYRENE look up that great chemical.

[@HollyMoore-wo2mh]

@@ironworkerfxr7105 They have NO IDEA. It's a CULT of the Green new lie.

[@oneolddog8809]

It’s a scam.

[@iiilllii140]

Yeah, so toxic, instead keep burning coal and gas via wonderful ecological friendly fracking 👌. Btw. fracking causes radioactive waste, and so much more. Measured on the annual waste, the waste from wind turbines is a percentile of it. Of course it portrays a bad image for green energy resources but think about it how much waste every single person is responsible for, per year!

[@PorscheSC]

Glad someone is telling this story.

[@SennaTaylor-fq8lj]

People don’t like to report the negative side.

[@frederickwise5238]

People dont like to HEAR the negative side even more!!!

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

"Always look on the bright side of life" (Monty Python).

[@frederickwise5238]

@@user-yl1xy5eg7b Pretty shallow. As tho this adds anything positive to the issue of destroying the environment in the name of saving the environment.. smh

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

@@frederickwise5238 I suggest that you read my earlier comprehensive post. My remark, in quoting Monty Python, is ironic. I suggest that you go out and buy yourself an irony meter.

[@frederickwise5238]

​@@user-yl1xy5eg7b Strangely enuf, Im not finding any "earlier posts" by ​ user-yl1xy5eg7b. Whatever you said must have been filtered out or fallen by the wayside. BTW I dont need another meter of any kind destroyed by the BS of liberals. I already have a closet full of those meters overloaded and wrecked beyond repair by the drivel and trivia of the aforesaid group.

[@JackSht-lv2on]

I now understand why Australia wants to install these throughout the ocean with the UNs blessing, When they fail just push them over, out of sight out of mind 😂😂

[@janicesullivan8942]

Oceanic life is only important to Liberals when they say it’s important, otherwise they don’t really give a cr@p.

[@glennkerrison6108]

They'll make good coral reefs. Just slightly toxic ones. Fish tastes like garbage anyway.

[@Joeseph-t2e]

Saw a video recently of a Whale study done around these things in the ocean....Apparently underwater they are extremely loud and can screw up the Whale migration habits.

[@stever285]

Who's seen the ad's on here lately complaining about the company doing exploratory work off the West Australian coast and how it's putting the whales at risk? Green Peace ran them I think. Strangely, I haven't seen their ads about the risk to whales posed by wind farms.

[@harrisbeatsfrankou6304]

Yeah and then poison the fish...so Green...so renewable.

[@phcusnret]

Sure am glad that wind power is so clean.

[@old-pete]

It is.

[@janvanrenesse2118]

Send this video to Greta and to every green party around the world, including the Climat extinction movement. Then they see what their "GREEN" Energy leads to.

[@phnix6242]

Because they wont ignore THIS fact You know they know all they talk about is billshot

[@HollyMoore-wo2mh]

It makes n difference to any of them. You will never change their minds. Greta pushed what she is told to push by her parents.

[@judyhalsell9510]

They do not care with them it is ALL about their profit no matter what damage is caused to humans or other life.Greed is their god.

[@colty7764]

they don't even know which bathroom to use in public...

[@MsJackrussell2]

Funny how Greta and other climate activists never seem bothered by the fact that the majority of wind turbines and solar panels are made in China--by slave labour. In the same way, they don't seem to care about children n the Congo mining cobalt and other minerals.

[@Hawkeye2001]

One of my farmer friends was approached by a green energy producer about leasing their land for a solar farm. There was a 20 year contract. At the end the solar company would simply walk away, and the land owner responsible for reclaiming the land. The panels contained hazardous materials that could only be recycled by one company. In Belgium.

[@johnkemas7344]

Seems a typical scam by an energy producer. Same deal with the oil companies wanting to lease and take the oil and natural gas from under your properties. You sell them you rights, for very little money, they take what they want and after the ground has been destroyed by fracking and other processes, they leave you with the mess. And people fall for this ruse for a quick but small chunk of cash. They pay you relatively little for the use of your land, they make profits and in the end you're stuck for the cleanup and land restoration, possibly you being forced to do so by the government and in the end you lost more money than you were ever paid! NO THANKS

[@brianfitch5469]

Most will just collect them and burn them.

[@1978garfield]

What happens to most electronics is they get shopped to China. Shipping to China is artificially cheap because they need the shipping containers back. So broken electronics dead head back to China. There they will be broken apart. Metal will be recycled. Plastic is often burnt to get rid of it. Some components are burnt to get the metals out of them. Just because it is recycling doesn't mean it is "green".

[@Milarz]

Then your farmer friend needs to renegotiate the contract. Is this a new concept for farm businesses? Don't they have contracts with suppliers, storage middleman, and purchasers? And the solar cell recycling business in the U.S. is new, growing, but already established: www.epa.gov/hw/solar-panel-recycling.

[@beINMedia]

Solar companies would be happy to continue running the solar farm - even taking care of the existing panels and replacing them with state of the art ones.

[@MScott-y4g]

Look at California when those wind generator's became to costly to repair they got in their pickups and drove off. The turbines are just left standing there. You can drive up to any wind generator and start counting the number of dead birds laying around them. If anything like that happens in the oil field you would sure as hell hear about it.

[@bobmirror7164]

A hahahahah ahahahaha a hahahah.

[@robertdavies8305]

In the UK there are also graveyards of Turbine blades. Hidden near forests and fields. they cannot be recycled. Look out for the Solar Panels where are they been hidden.

[@lewis1544]

We have about 100,000 tons of waste blades each year in the UK. The Solar Panels worry me as well - dangerous concentrations of heavy metals left to leach into the water table. Nobody wants to recycle these things because it's too expensive.

[@glamdring0007]

As bad as the piles of turbine blades are...what's even worse, by quite a lot, is the problem we are running full speed towards - the fact that solar panels are highly toxic and how to deal with them.

[@anderander5662]

And lithium batteries

[@curtekstrom9531]

Turbine blades last 8 to 10 years. Solar Panels last 40 to 50 years

[@craigparker4108]

@@curtekstrom9531 Solar panels may last 20 to 25 years but maintenance needs to be done, inverters need replacing & efficiency falls with age. Nobody says 50 years lol.

[@curtekstrom9531]

@@craigparker4108 There are LG Panels out there that are pushing 45 years and still producing at 72%.

[@craigparker4108]

@@curtekstrom9531 That is just not true. By 2005, LG was a Top 100 global brand, and in 2006, LG recorded a brand growth of 14%. Its display manufacturing affiliate, LG Display, is now the world’s largest plasma panel manufacturer. LG Solar Energy is a subsidiary formed in 2007 to allow LG Chem to supply polysilicon to LG Electronics for production of solar cells.

[@sanctitysnake]

The blades are fiberglass, a mix of cloth and resin. Resin is recyclable, it takes tremendous heat to separate it from the cloth, but recycled resin can be used multiple times. The cloth can not be recycled but is easier to dispose of without being saturated with resin. Sunlight is the enemy of fiberglass, heat and sun causes the compound mixture to continuously harden [over time] until it becomes brittle and breaks. Where do all the fiberglass Boats go after they die?

[@nuttysquirrel8574]

Not just Texas, we have similar fields of dead, unrecyclable, windmill blades here in UK. What the green eco-zealots do not, or will not, admit is the non-green things that go into making renewable, inefficient, energy. Things like child labour mining for cobalt in Africa, the carbon footprint of making, and pouring, the concrete bases, the lack of other rare minerals such as Lithium, the fact that the blades (as said here) are unrecyclable as are the batteries. The batteries used in Evs have an average life of 8-9 yrs, with declining performance each year, then need to be replaced at extortionate costs (ave in UK £10-14000!!!)... the list goes on. Green??? My left te***cle!

[@UncleButterworth]

MMMMM yummy fiberglass! More batteries in the ocean to charge the eels. Sounds great.

[@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw]

And Dale Vince's company continues to make millions off the technology. At least he decided this week to STOP funding the misguided Just Stop Oil loonies, saying their actions are merely disruptive and accomplishing nothing.

[@geoffreytoomey682]

Fantastic news, Thanks to Albosleezy and his acolyte Chris Bowen of the “United Nations Australian Labor Government” and special Thanks to Albosleezy's mate Klaus Schwab, the boss of the World Economic Forum and his Puppets in the United Nations, who created the Climate Change scam, the only way to stop the WEF=WHO=UNs apparent Climate Change is to destroy our industries, borrow heaps of money and give it the UN? I'm getting into the recycling business; with the Green energy replaceable industries being fully supported by the sheeple of the world, recycling solar panels, wind turbines, Batteries, and electric vehicles is growing exponentially and unstoppable now, and because they are so short-lived hence the catchy name “replicable” the media calls them “Renewable” sounds better for the Sheeple, renewable ha ha , the best bit is that Albosleezy’s “United Nations Australian Labor Government” will subsidise all the recycling businesses of the Green industries and also subsidise the landfill of toxic and unrecyclable parts, I've heard the new designated name for these many new Landfill facilities, will be "Green landfill projects", this is a growing Green gold mine. Made possible By the UN Member Country Politician TRAITORS pushing the WEF=UN=WHO invented CLIMATE CHANGE Scam that has sucked in the Sheeple, Green is actually very brown and never supposed to be successful supplying energy, BUT! it working to bankrupt the UN-Member Countries. Australia is being controlled by the most treasonous UN Government. Labor/Greens dreadfully either idiots or deliberate TRAITORS

[@70chevs]

I didn't realise until recently but depending on the size of these wind generators they can have 100's of litres of oil in them.

[@tomsherwood4650]

LOL Well like all liberal ideas, they do not really know the consequences and reality but don't seem to care.

[@andrewbrown8463]

But but but my cult leader told us we hate oil. No more oil no more oil 😅

[@GreggWalken-xd3qv]

And add in all the petrochemicals for the fiberglass used

[@gordy4459]

And a lot of them also have a diesel generator fitted to them!...

[@benzielke7149]

Yes and where I live in south texas some of them have big brown streaks that you can see from several miles away. They leak...

[@leverman7517]

How much Petroleum goes into producing these giant wind turbines? Isn't the resin in fiberglass Petroleum based?

[@frankdrevinpolicesquad2930]

We live in an area that went from natural gas electric production to Wind turbines. Electricity cost has skyrocketed and frequently fails in our very cold winters in North Texas.

[@bpentea2403]

@Frankdrevin Frank, who is your electricity provider?

[@frankdrevinpolicesquad2930]

@@bpentea2403 Pentex, out of Muenster Texas which has a large windmill farm

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

Here in Mn our electric company sent us a letter a few yrs ago which actually said our bills would go up quite a bit dur to green energy. And so far I have seen at least 25% increases and my Natural gas has really went up

[@April-ks8xz]

Yep

[@1978garfield]

Shame. Natural gas is very efficient and clean burning.

[@glenbard657]

Even Michael Moore figured out that "green" energy is a scam.

[@haitolawrence5986]

That clown is a bloated broken clock in this case.

[@pauljamison8546]

low bar

[@jmack619]

fat bar@@pauljamison8546

[@nicholasklangos9704]

But he is still the biggest moron on the planet...

[@chhansen9813]

Michael Moore and Rosie O' Donnell are the same person!

[@patfallon3027]

I can remember the old fashioned farmer's windmills,they had at least a dozen twisted flat metal blades on them and they spun reasonably well and lasted for years with little maintenance,I always wondered why they didn't make these wind turbines the same way but bigger

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

Dear patfallon, they produced quite small amounts of power. I gather that three very long blades is the most economical way to gather what power they can. They bloody well aren't "turbines". The turbine invented by Charles Parsons was a brilliant, very new advance upon the reciprocating engine of the splendid steam locomotive. So anyway there is a great deal of misguided cleverness goes into these Satanic Wind Mills. At about 12 m/s (metres per second) the vanes have already presented less than their full area to the wind. It is the methodology that parallels the "reefing" of the sails in a boat or ship. As the wind speed goes up, they shed progressively more, until the wind is so strong that they present the minimum possible, and stop. The power of the wind is proportional to the cube of its speed, so the graphs I have seen that seem like a straight line from 6 m/s to 12 m/suggest that wind speeds up to 6 m/s are fully used, but producing only twice as much at twice that speed means that 3/4 of the wind power is not being used. The demands imposed upon the roots of the vanes, both to be rotated on their own axes, and to resist the torque trying to keep the blade resisting the wind at all, quite amaze me

[@buckytravelsplaces7581]

Smoke and mirrors Folks And You are Paying the Bills !

[@johnhawk8807]

FUN FACT: A wind generator cannot produce enough energy to build a wind generator

[@31631106]

Could you lie any harder? How much Energy do you "think" they need to be produced? Since you called it a "Fact" why don't you produce some real facts and figures?

[@peao010109]

False, it tends to take around a year for the energy put into making the wind turbine to be paid back. The only way what you said would be true would be if it the turbine was placed in a really really bad spot that barely gets any wind ever,

[@johnhawk8807]

@@peao010109 You live in a utopian fantasy world and wouldn't accept facts if I did

[@31631106]

@johnhawk8807 that's what someone WITHOUT PROOF would say.

[@johnhawk8807]

@@31631106 scroll down for facts. You wouldn't accept facts if they wopped you upside the head like a broken rotor blade

[@RobertLee-tv4hc]

...but it doesn't exist if I cant see it from my house... I heard a college student once claim "if he wasn't looking at it, it doesn't exist." He learned this at his university.

[@nelenekaranges7260]

Thankyou for honesty!🎉

[@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw]

The windmills off the coast of the UK are reported to kill hundreds of thousands of birds every year. Some estimates are a MILLION.

[@old-pete]

Multiply that by 35 and you know what fossil fuel power plants with the same power output kill.

[@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw]

@@old-pete So where are you going to put the outcasts of these 'environmental friendly' windmills? Not being recycled and just filling up dumps with toxic chemicals in their manufacture.

[@old-pete]

@@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw These blades are chemically inert. They do not look pretty and are a waste of space and ressources, but they do not damage the enviroment.

[@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw]

@@old-pete Fiberglass is NOT recyclable.. So just pile it up and up and up in the dump. Wow, THAT'S a lot of foresight, NOT!

[@old-pete]

@@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw Veolia and Neocomp disagree. They recycle them for years. Denmark uses them as construction material for decades.

[@benzielke7149]

The fiberglass composite that the blades are made of are almost impossible for most commercial machines to chew up and destroy after they are worn out...

[@paradiselost9946]

and to think that aircraft are made from aluminium sheets popriveted together, along with timber here and there... and the dutch, english, persians, blah blah... been making windmills for centuries out of timber and cloth...

[@johnkemas7344]

You could grind them up (not cheaply or easily) with very expensive tooling, then burn them at high temps in a closed environment (no air Autoclave) which would separate out the oil based materials in the epoxy and glass components. But this process is very fuel intense in its' own right!! Just like they wanted to do with tires, but that never happened and we still have mountains of ties catching fire all the time. The reason the technique never got put to use?? Not profitable, plain and simple.

[@mchume65]

If you want to clear some land and build an industrial facility, you need an environmental impact study and then permission to build that could take years to complete. But if you want to clear a large area of land for windmill or solar panels, the bulldozers will be there tomorrow, with little concern about the wildlife.

[@MrBashem]

Glad someone is bringing light to this. So tired of people talking about green energy with windmills and solar.

[@tired7140]

They are both good ideas but only a Pipe Dream scam at this point in time.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

@@tired7140 sorry mate, weather dependent energy sources are NOT a good idea when nuclear power is in fact safely available at a million times the energy density per unit mass.

[@tired7140]

@@jacksimpson-rogers1069 You are 100% correct. My comment was to pacify the idiots that think solar and wind power are the only way to go. Have a nice day.

[@TheSpuggy1965]

Shhh! You mustn’t report on things like this, it upsets the greens! 😂🤣😂

[@andretorben9995]

Nah, the greens just ignore that they dont like.

[@elaineteut9579]

Our small farm community has 150 wind turbines to the west and north of us and hundreds more as you travel north. A local wind turbine was hit and damaged by lightning before Mother’s Day in May. It is October and it still has not been fixed.

[@terencejay8845]

There's no money in fixing them.

[@johnkemas7344]

These companies get government subsidies and grants to build this stuff. Not maintain it. When it breaks there is no money to fix it. These technologies will never generate enough profits to pay to keep themselves running once they enter failure mode. So they die and fall apart. Their existence was never about being green or making money for profits. It is about scams to make companies a quick buck as cash flow only and big massive pay checks for the execs and stock holders.

[@MC-de6tf]

Not green at all the turbine blades are made from fiberglass and resin and that resin comes from petrochemicals that come from oil. The generators are made by the use of petrochemicals that come from oil. And now we have the not green waste in used blades where there is no plan on what to do with them.

[@old-pete]

Wind is green by definition. Nobody claims that fiberglass is green. The CO2 footprint of windturbine generated electricity is much lower than generation by fossil fuels. There are many options how to handle the waste, but US politicians allow the industry to just dump it.

[@LittleLizzy2]

As far as I know, you can't recycle solar panels in Canada either, unless you do it illegally by dumping them. We know of people who just bury broken solar panels as they don't know what else to do with them as there is nowhere around that will recycle them. Now all the bad stuff just leach out into the soil that will eventually go into our water supply systems.

[@jimmurphy5355]

What is all that "bad stuff" that leaches out?

[@UncleButterworth]

@@jimmurphy5355 "solar panel toxicity" would be a good place to start, but google/alphabet will certainly alter results to favor their preferred narrative.

[@jimmurphy5355]

@@UncleButterworth Looks like solar panels don't actually present that much of a problem. Silicon, glass, and aluminum are the vast bulk of the unit. There is some lead in panels that use lead based solder - but it appears that the use of lead solder is being phased out. Some panels used to contain cadmium, but pretty much all new panels are silicon based. Compared to the megatons of toxic fly ash produced by coal plants, the leaching problem (if any) from landfilled solar panels is a flyspeck in a sandstorm.

[@LittleLizzy2]

@@jimmurphy5355 I have a brain injury, so I hope this makes sense.. I've not only been told this information but have Googled the topic & read the same thing there. If I am wrong, please educate me, I have no problem having my mind changed, especially if I'm wrong. I was informed that the solar panels are damaged, laying on the ground or have been buried in the ground that they can potentially leach toxic heavy metals into the ground/ground water. They can't be recycled in Canada, or at least where I live. I went & asked the gentleman that runs our garbage dump. He told me that it's considered hazardous waste here & can't be dumped or recycled. He said if we have a bad hail storm like we do all the time here, he said good luck finding somewhere to legally dispose of them. He said there was a company here for a while, but it cost you money to recycle them & then they were shipping them to third world countries for them to take our garbage just for them to find any little bits of heavy metals worth money they could sell, etc, then they burn it all the garbage that is illegal to burn here just for them to get sick with all sorts of stuff. What does that do for pollution? What good are we actually doing if we don't have plans for end of use/life. If you don’t see a problem, it doesn't mean the problem isn't there. I have a solar setup (I hope they don't break), I recycle, I try to conserve water & help charities that help wildlife & the eco system we share with them. I'm not against green ideas, I just want products that can be properly recycled & that don't hurt the living, the environment, or anything else that lives in it. Windmills hurt animals & sea creatures too, they do some good, but do bad things too, but everyone wants to push the good stuff, but never talks about the bad stuff & can't answer questions or have the research to back up their theories they hold onto so tightly. If you don't discuss the bad with the good people who have ideas that could possibly fix the issues, don't know if there are any issues to fix. This has taken me hours to write. Hopefully, it flows correctly. Being a perfectionist with a brain injury sucks. It takes me a lot longer to say what I mean & for people to understand where I am coming from

[@waynebutler7602]

Amazed that the general populace believe this is green! 🤯

[@nek_ad]

but, it looked great in Teletubbies

[@johnkemas7344]

The general population for the most paRT (BUT NOT ALL OF US) will believe what ever they are told by politicians because they are too lazy and apathetic to care. This is the complete fallacy of the "BIG GOVERNMENT" Theory

[@craigbucl7752]

That’s msm treatment

[@danharold3087]

Given the alternative which is getting little air time here it is totally understandable.

[@shirleyb2896]

Propaganda and ESG score. $$$$$$$$$

[@mikekosar6135]

Thanks for the post

[@axle.australian.patriot]

Ahhh, now I know why they scrapped plastic shopping bags.. To make room for plastic turbine blades lol

[@gregoryeverson741]

i need plastic bags so i can collect cat turds.

[@axle.australian.patriot]

@@gregoryeverson741 Just buy a heap of plastic bags from Woolworths or Coles, and take them home in a paper bag so you can save the planet from doom and gloom. ;)

[@axle.australian.patriot]

@@gregoryeverson741 P.S. How big is your turd collection.. I have heaps of postage stamps collected :)

[@gooble69]

@@axle.australian.patriot "Just buy a heap of plastic bags from Woolworths or Coles" Go one better, just grab some free ones from the fruit and vege aisles. For some reason those plastic bags don't count as being evil...

[@yesher12]

As a Texan and former west Texan, it has made me sick to see those damn windmills all over the Panhandle and South Plains of Texas. The landscape has been dessimated by these turbines. We drive I-20 up to Lubbock a lot and I have seen tons of these blade graveyards and it is sickening.

[@johnkemas7344]

We are starting to have them in Pennsylvania now too. Lots of wind turbines in Central mountain regions of PA. Half of them aren't running anymore, their gear boxes failed because of lack of adequate maintaining, their generators catch fire or they have nowhere to bury them here in PA cheaply at end of life so they just let them stand there until they fall over.

[@frostykitties2050]

Amen n what a waste !!! Money time land environment!!

[@old-pete]

Talk to your politicans, other countries do not have such graveyards.

[@Cwin-ny6bp]

No joke. Can they use them as building materials or insulation or something? Turbine blades are just littered across West Texas.

[@old-pete]

@@Cwin-ny6bp They can be used to make cement.

[@OldGuyAdventure]

When i took Engineering some of our course load looked at composite materials and we even toured Boeing and Standard Areo, we learned about the creep that happens with structural members with aircraft when faced with the wind loads. So when I hear about Wind Turbine blades I suspect those blades are monitored for stress creep as well and torsional loading. The blade has to withstand wind which bend the blade but also it turns which is a compound torsion and there must be a lot of strain gages in the blades to make sure they are not delaminating as a result of the torsion. Something else that I had learned about the wind turbine systems is the nature of the resin used is such that the blades are hard, and I saw one video where they used a diamond cutting chain that cuts through the blades. If you need a chain with industrial diamonds in it to cut a blade to make it manageable how much more energy do you need to grind them up to be used in other products?

[@old-pete]

They use force generated by a steel chain spun at 800 to 1000 rpm. The impact shatters the blades. If done long enough one gets the material size one wants.

[@volentimeh]

Regarding the diamond cutting chain, that's just the nature of cutting fiberglass in general, its allways hell on tools regardless of how "hard" the binder is (which is basically plastic)

[@old-pete]

@@volentimeh From my understanding they do not use a cutting tool to grind the blades into tiny pieces, but an impact procedure that smashes the blades into pieces.

[@Billy97ify]

@@old-pete I think that would be called a type of hammer mill. Uses up a lot of power.

[@old-pete]

@@Billy97ify That is also what was mentioned in the articles I read about the process.

[@stephensmith1794]

I was over near there in late November from Australia and the turbines were everywhere. I stopped at the intersection where the movie cast away finished , ( Tom hanks talked to the lady in the Ute ) and the windmills covered ground in all directions nearly. Kansas and Missouri also had these, we passed them for hours and hours. Disgraceful

[@johnalexander4356]

I grew up in the Texas panhandle. Lots of wind so now tons of wind turbines. They are so ugly to look at and noisy. Add on the issues of them all failing when it turns cold, the recycling failure, the oil leaking out over the ground around towers, high cost, and I'm very sure I've missed problems. Bring back coal!

[@jayjones6904]

Tom Hanks can kiss my butt

[@vancouver63-p5w]

Then why didn’t Tom Hanks say something to his holly weirdo friends .

[@3DThrills]

What the wind people aren't telling anyone is that the blades are unexpectedly becoming riddled with microfractures long before they planned to replace them, due to lightning strikes and vibration. The blades are too dense to be economically recycled so they bury them, except for a few token goofy bike racks or other attempts to call them recyclable. The trend is to make windmills taller, resulting in even more lightning strikes.

[@gaylenewood7707]

Well have those turbines out in the oceans where there's ships and hurricanes that strikes how long you think they will last?

[@sscbkr48]

It's about enviro bucks, for profit insanity and feigned concern .. there are no experts, just political hacks having their palms greased.

[@jamescollier3]

they are also made without carbon [eyeroll]

[@3DThrills]

Write your own contract where if they fail to upkeep the maintenance or pay you your share on time, property of the entire rig defaults to you. Then cut it down and sell it for scrap. They might go for it, they often just abandon them anyway. They are monorail salesmen, not scrappers.

[@Dawgsofwinter]

Had someone try and convince me there was a company in Europe buying the blades to recycle them into road material and they wouldn't explain to me how it was profitable or economical to ship them that far. Never mind who this mythical company was.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

The other issue is it's not just "end of life". The blades can easily get damaged in a storm, earth quake or any other bit of bad weather. Then you have improvements in technology. As new blades come out companies replace the old ones, even if the old ones would still work. If the new ones are 10% more efficient they dump the old for the new.

[@old-pete]

I did not know earthquakes fall under bad weather... Not that other power plants would be fine with earthquakes. Windturbines are designed to endure 180km/h winds, some can even take winds up to 215km/h. There are many areas on this world that rarely face such winds.

[@alfandeddie]

You could produce a tremendous amount of food on 20 to 40 acres. You could grow switchgrass for fuel. Just infuriating.

[@mommabear943]

I've said this for sometime now, nothing should be produced that cannot be recycled. This should be a law.

[@Pyjamarama11]

Hate to burst your bubble but a lot of things can't be recycled due to the laws of nature Everything comes with a cost

[@theusher2893]

Then 99% of products would never be made. Recycling only works for a very few select materials. Plus that would pretty much be worse than a communist economy and the death of the free market.

[@catman13131313]

THEN DONT CREATE IT, UNLESS THERE IS SOLUTION FOR IT@@Pyjamarama11

[@RS-ls7mm]

Soylent green?

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

That was exactly what the Left said. Nek minnut, obsolete wind blades and they hide.

[@jmsmeier1113]

The question no one is asking is, what is the necessary wind speed to turn these blades without the need for a diesel drive engine and how often do those conditions occur?

[@old-pete]

The blades are not turned by a diesel drive. If the wind is too slow, they stop. The starting speed depends on the model and is between 3 and 4.5 m/s.

[@NemoBlank]

Not to mention the concrete bases will never come out of the farmland where its poured. The windmills will eventually cost more than a century of coal.

[@kentd4762]

Thank you, SNA, for covering this. We certainly won't see or hear of it here in the U.S. Seems like almost all "green" energy leads to unusable wasted parts, but shhhhh, we can't talk about that.

[@rockymntnliberty]

An interesting thing I've heard numerous times over years, is that it actually takes more fossil fuel energy to manufacture, erect, and maintain one of these wind turbines, then you will ever get out of it in the renewable energy. Just to fuel the trucks and equipment to get a tower to its build site, and to erect it, it takes in excess of 2,000 gallons of fuel, perhaps as much as double of that.

[@old-pete]

Why do you listen to stuff somebody heard "somewhere"? If it interests you, check it out! The information is a few clicks away. Windturbines earn back all invested energy in 6 to 14 months.

[@mwallace2922]

It's a complete grift. Follow the money 💵💵

[@Jessy-cs1jz]

There has never been a wind farm that has made more money than the cost of their production ..... its a con

[@CindySorenson-r4m]

These things have no thought into them anymore. I remember seeing old simple windmills out at the ranch & seeing what they did. They just pumped well water up to a water tank. The tanks seem to waste way less water when you use a center solar cover with only the outer rim exposed for drinking. Helps keep the water cool that way too & less bugs & debris. I think they have a solar panel monitoring the tanks now too. Super simple, super cheap, and 100% off-grid friendly. Low maintenance. Durability.

[@old-pete]

Different designs for different purposes.

[@keegan773]

The blind rush to net zero takes no account of the consequences.

[@finfrog3237]

The idea of "net zero" ignores reality. But so does the new "vaccine" technology.

[@annieseaside]

Biden wants the Military to make Electric TANKS … because as you well know there are charging stations all over the hell holes where battle breaks out. The stupidity is mind-boggling. 🤯

[@cjay2]

It was never supposed to.

[@hejla4524]

It's a scam, they don't care.

[@camiisle6535]

There's another turbine "graveyard" in Wyoming.

[@gckshea]

Quite a few we saw on US 26 between Casper and Shoshoni.

[@ssbalmera7464]

There was always a concern on the end of life but no one has wanted to listen and address the issue. They just kept pushing for "oil free" energy without any resolution on the non-viable technology of wind farms.

[@jerrybrickley2115]

I've seen a video proudly declaring what was referred to as a "recycling" program. A company was paid to cut up blades, grind them to a rough powder. Then that is used in concrete production. The ground up blades are burned at the concrete plant, the heat produced is used to dry the powdered concrete mix as it comes down the production line. Great, ain't it.

[@jgrant5255]

A large billboard with AOCs picture on it with the slogan "I did that!" Should be posted on the gates of that facility.

[@enginepy]

As a Texan, I can say that most of us hate the wind farms and the wind companies. Many landowners just want the paycheck (they tend to be pretty money hungry), but the communities don’t want wind farms.

[@tommiller7177]

" expired blades" get buried. "Expired politicians" need the same treatment. After 4 year term limits.

[@cjay2]

'term limits'? Better, 'life limits'. They aren't us.

[@JohnWilliams-iw6oq]

I wonder how much of this waste and replacement cost has been calculated into their green energy costs. My guess is zero.

[@brucejordan3339]

Have a look at the waste at the old wind station in Esperance WA

[@chaseme9860]

Give the people the money it took to make these instead of these companies. Let them purchase passive energy savings like new windows and insulation. Or even scaled-down turbines made for individual homes.

[@asmaben1114]

Now that was a useful and informative video... always good to show the downside of a product that some try to impose to people...

[@robertbolding4182]

The value of the wind for energy production never changes so the spot becomes more and more valuable over time not less valuable. You will never tear down a windmill and not replace it.

[@richj120952]

It truly amazes me as an Engineer how lifetime costs of these systems are ignored by "Green" technology gurus. They just look at the "savings" from the time the device already has been installed, and then stop looking at costs of maintenance, repair, and disposal at the end of life of the device. These systems need to be looked at fully. Maintenance can equal the initial capital cost on utility systems like wind turbines, and solar cells. Then there is the cost to dispose/recycle (if that was even considered by the engineers that designed and built the devices.) They also ignore the environmental disasters they are building, like the killing of wildlife, poisoning of water due to the extraction of rare earths, etc. These Greenies are basically "hacks", and should be taken out of circulation in my opinion and really given peer reviews by various engineering specialties before being allowed to proceed.

[@MB-xe8bb]

The Greenies are just salesmen and con-men. We never hear from engineers.

[@Milarz]

The industry standard metric Levelized Cost of Energy (LCOE), most famously published yearly by Lazar, does include initial investment, lifetime maintenance, fuel costs, and end-of-life decommissioning costs. It does not take into account negative externalities that are not directly charged to the energy producer. However, you are wildly incorrect if you think that green energy produces anywhere near the damage that fossil fuels do (to human health, to existing man-made structures, to the environment, etc.).

[@old-pete]

These costs are all included in the calculation, while the costs of fossil fuel power plants miss the costs of enviromental destruction.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

The only possible replacement for fossil fuels is civilian nuclear, And They Know It. There is a vast and well funded Anti-Nuclear Industry of pure propaganda, or maybe I should simply add "renewables".

[@sifridbassoon]

I used to drive back and forth from Dallas to Lubbock to visit my dad. I remember the first time I drove past that big wind farm outside of Sweetwater. It was at night and each of the windmills had a red warning light on top like any type of antenna. It reminded me of a big army of giants marching across the cotton fields.

[@saucerocreamify]

That's disgusting

[@jefftum4177]

I’ve seen them at the trash dump lumped in with everything else or abandoned left standing. The irony is it’s not far from an oil refinery that’s been in use for many of decades.

[@gregoswald7723]

This wind turbine debate just keeps going around in circles... If the proposed solution to make things "green" is "build more stuff" it isn't as green as it appears.

[@Joeseph-t2e]

25 year lifespan on something so expensive is ludicrous....

[@transparentglazier]

@@Joeseph-t2e That is the same useful life expectance of public housing

[@Joeseph-t2e]

@@transparentglazier you are kidding right?...Properly maintained a house can last centuries.

[@transparentglazier]

@@Joeseph-t2e The key words are 'Properly maintained'. The housing projects in Chicago were only projected to have a life expectancy of 25 years, most have been razed and the occupants shifted to what were more stable communities

[@landcruiser11rum]

What I did not hear mentioned was also the extra transmission lines costs and clearing needed for them, wind turbines are noted to be about 37% efficient at best & often do nothing.

[@old-pete]

Clearing, if necesary, is included. Transmission costs are considered, dependent on where the lines are. Windturbines can reach higher capacity factors and that does not mean they do not run the rest of the year.

[@abellseaman4114]

@@old-pete LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woke and LIE-beral statistics are full of DELIBERATE MISREPRESENTATIONS AND DELIBERATE OMISSIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As an example - LIE-berals DO NOT COUNT the cost of regular trips by helicopters to spray de-icing fluid onto wind turbine blades so that snow and ice will not build up on them thus unbalancing the blades and wrecking the wind turbine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here in Ontario - we had a THREE YEAR OLD WIND TURBINE CATCH FIRE AND THEN COLLAPSE after ice built up on the blades - with the vibrations stripping the transmission and causing a catastrophic fire that resulted in the wind tower COLLAPSING COMPLETELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@old-pete]

​@@abellseaman4114Just facts.

[@deanproctor2690]

There’s a select group that reaps the rewards from wind farms. We the people will suffer the burden of paying the disposal fees.

[@onepom63]

This is what’s in store for Australia but on a much bigger scale, because our CC Cultist want everything renewable…

[@andretorben9995]

The level of stupidity in Canberra is incredible.

[@GazGuitarz]

There was a turbine blade graveyard found in Queensland a month or so ago. It's already started Australia.

[@alfr1]

I drove to work on a highway right beside a huge landfill/garbage dump, where they had hundreds of these fiberglass blades. They were not chopped up or even buried very deep, as they were 4 or more stacked up, then buried.

[@markheckman3987]

There is a company in Louisiana Missouri, That uses old turbines as fuel for their energy plants

[@ernesthimself]

Modern coal and nuclear energy is much cleaner than solar and wind. But its all about governments making money, not about climate.

[@bobmirror7164]

A hahahahah ahahahaha a hahahah.

[@MCOult]

The entire "green" movement has been a huge scam since Day One.

[@bobmirror7164]

A hahahahah ahahahaha a hahahah.

[@phillipstephens3079]

Talk to people who work in operations/maintenance of these wind turbines…at best/new, they only operate at 25% of their potential output 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏼🤦🏻‍♂️

[@old-pete]

Depends on what you mean. They can reach their rated output, but not all the time. No powerplant can do that.

[@Darkmatter321]

Everything in the US is done with money being paid as campaign contributions to one party or the other, or more often than not to both. Add to that the fact that everything in the US is made with planned obsolescence. You can't expect these generators to last more than a few years. There is too much money to be made from them going out of service

[@Censortubes]

all energy-producing machinery must be fabricated from materials extracted from the earth. No energy system, in short, is actually “renewable,” since all machines require the continual mining and processing of millions of tons of primary materials and the disposal of hardware that inevitably wears out. Compared with hydrocarbons, green machines entail, on average, a 10-fold increase in the quantities of materials extracted and processed to produce the same amount of energy. For a snapshot of what all this points to regarding the total materials footprint of the green energy path, consider the supply chain for an electric car battery. A single battery providing a useful driving range weighs about 1,000 pounds. Providing the refined minerals needed to fabricate a single EV battery requires the mining, moving, and processing of more than 500,000 pounds of materials somewhere on the planet . That’s 20 times more than the 25,000 pounds of petroleum that an internal combustion engine uses over the life of a car. Among the material realities of green energy: Building wind turbines and solar panels to generate electricity, as well as batteries to fuel electric vehicles, requires, on average, more than 10 times the quantity of materials, compared with building machines using hydrocarbons to deliver the same amount of energy to society. A single electric car contains more cobalt than 1,000 smartphone batteries; the blades on a single wind turbine have more plastic than 5 million smartphones; and a solar array that can power one data center uses more glass than 50 million phones. Replacing hydrocarbons with green machines under current plans-never mind aspirations for far greater expansion-will vastly increase the mining of various critical minerals around the world. For example, a single electric car battery weighing 1,000 pounds requires extracting and processing some 500,000 pounds of materials. Averaged over a battery’s life, each mile of driving an electric car “consumes” five pounds of earth. Using an internal combustion engine consumes about 0.2 pounds of liquids per mile. Oil, natural gas, and coal are needed to produce the concrete, steel, plastics, and purified minerals used to build green machines. The energy equivalent of 100 barrels of oil is used in the processes to fabricate a single battery that can store the equivalent of one barrel of oil. By 2050, with current plans, the quantity of worn-out solar panels-much of it nonrecyclable-will constitute double the tonnage of all today’s global plastic waste, along with over 3 million tons per year of unrecyclable plastics from worn-out wind turbine blades. By 2030, more than 10 million tons per year of batteries will become garbage. The extraction process of lithium is very resource demanding and specifically uses a lot of water in the extraction process. It is estimated that 500,000 gallons of water is used to mine one metric ton of lithium. With the world's leading country in production of lithium being Chile, the lithium mines are in rural areas with an extremely diverse ecosystem. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, one of the driest places on earth, about 65% of the water is used to mine lithium; leaving many of the local farmers and members of the community to find water elsewhere. Along with physical implications on the environment, working conditions can violate the standards of sustainable development goals. Additionally, it is common for locals to be in conflict with the surrounding lithium mines. There have been many accounts of dead animals and ruined farms in the surrounding areas of many of these mines. In Tagong, a small town in Garzê Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture China, there are records of dead fish and large animals floating down some of the rivers near the Tibetan mines. After further investigation, researchers found that this may have been caused by leakage of evaporation pools that sit for months and sometimes even years. Lithium-ion batteries contain metals such as cobalt, nickel, and manganese, which are toxic and can contaminate water supplies and ecosystems if they leach out of landfills. Additionally, fires in landfills or battery-recycling facilities have been attributed to inappropriate disposal of lithium-ion batteries. As a result, some jurisdictions require lithium-ion batteries to be recycled. In spite of the environmental cost of improper disposal of lithium-ion batteries, the rate of recycling is still relatively low, as recycling processes remain costly and immature. More than 400 million batteries are used throughout the country, with only 5% being recycled, resulting in 8000 tonnes ending up in landfil.

[@frankbirch3877]

Very complete. Great explanation. Thank you!

[@sargelaforgia4787]

Joe Biden needs to read this. But he really isn’t the one in charge.

[@singlespeedcrossbike]

Inconvenient knowledge.

[@eddiekulp1241]

People dont want to hear the truth. Fossil fuels are nature's own naturally produced sources of energy. There naturally organic in nature but treated like there poison

[@johnkemas7344]

Great observations and all true. All about the money and profits,

[@frenchieboisseau]

knowing there are shelf Lifes on these wind turbine energy generators a solution is to start building them with recyclable materials.

[@ottovongrubner3194]

A. Requires taxpayer subsidy to be a competitive source of energy. B. Requires massive industrial capacity and transportation costs. C. Kills wildlife from birds to sea mammals. D. Requires massive maintenance and replacement costs E. Leaves a terrible environmental waste legacy. F. Is not renewable in any sense of the term.

[@caroliner2029]

Yes, and is made in China by Uighur slave labour.

[@alanfinkeldey7484]

I’ve been by a couple of these storage yards for them. They don’t appear to be any better for the environment, if disposal and lifespan are any indication. I’d be curious to see what happens with them farther into to process.

[@scottj4462]

It should be paid by the owner, and the cost determined when the facility is first built to help determine if its worth it or not to build.

[@old-pete]

It is paid by the owner, that is why he is the owner.

[@SalemikTUBE]

The ones at sea are just dropped into the water. The concrete bases represent a volume that people simply cannot imagine.

[@michaelchevreaux7780]

Couple Years Ago Was A Very Cold Snowy Winter, Wiped Out All The Wind Turbines And Solar Panels. Very Disquieting Seeing Windmills On Fire.🔥

[@clivethomas6864]

No mention of the toxic problems with the oil industry. Sky news will just ignore that as they are funded by the oil industry.