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There Is A Second Wall In Essos! The Five Forts (Game of Thrones)

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@hgbugalou
@hgbugalou 5 жыл бұрын
Northeastern Essos connects with the Lands of Always Winter in Westeros. I have believed this for years.
@jackkelly324
@jackkelly324 5 жыл бұрын
grrm said they dont apparently
@rekon1500
@rekon1500 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackkelly324 He really said this?
@jackkelly324
@jackkelly324 5 жыл бұрын
@@rekon1500 yh unfortunately he said it some interview idk what its called look it up
@Complexcore-lz8de
@Complexcore-lz8de 2 жыл бұрын
@Josh Kale That would make way more sense
@GhostTetr4
@GhostTetr4 Жыл бұрын
@@NathanBrussat that’s not canon
@lesliemisaacs
@lesliemisaacs 5 жыл бұрын
I think George just threw in all these details wayyyyy back when he was writing the first couple of books, never intending to explain them. I seriously doubt we'll ever get an answer or explanation as to why there are buildings, etc. made of black, greasy stone.
@Niall487
@Niall487 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think he just added them in as a reference to lovecraft
@toomi89
@toomi89 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah probably. And it’s very unlikely that the show will introduce more characters and/or locations. Sure, maybe some new stuff but only minor stuff
@Oximb
@Oximb 5 жыл бұрын
If it was the case, why would he mention it in TWoIaF? We learnt a lot about the Long Night with that book.
@iloveyourunclebob
@iloveyourunclebob 2 жыл бұрын
Idk very easily could be just an easter egg or an easter egg and something more. There are things he adds in Fire and Blood and TWoIaF that feel very purposeful. Like the fyreworm thing in Fire and Blood seems very intentional. I'm on the fence with the greasy black stones. If it's more than just an Easter egg I still don't think we're gonna get answers, but maybe get some explanations. Like if the show didn't get the origins from George (thats not answered in the books, right. I'm having a moment of show and book blending together) and that was one of many long nights or maybe something came from essos and the children did create them - but way before the first men. Or maybe those people were swallowed up as the dead came through and are part of the others now and were stopped at the location that would become the 5 forts by a dying and now dead race. And the explanation could be as simple as another easter egg. I mean, it would just take someone describing lovecraftian humaniod creatures among the army of the dead and we are left to assume they are probably the people. Or we find out the others are in greasy black stone ruins/buildings/castles frozen over in the lands of always winter and we are left to assume they were the original white walkers and their land stretched all the way to essos before being pushed back by ancient beings. All I know is I will always have way more questions about this world than what [hopefully] will get answered lol I will say: the fyreworms and their immediate death in ice feeling intentional, the ghost grass, the five forts - I do wonder if something of fire is coming from east of the five forts as something of ice is coming from north of the wall. Something that didn't make it past the five forts last time. Or maybe last time wasn't a true long night, just a forced one to protect the land and children from the first men - something maybe the others only do when the fire comes to destroy the land - the children didn't realize their mistake until it was too late. Maybe they were never the enemy, but infact a way the world defends itself from the real enemy. According to everything we know - absolutely nothing survives in ghost grass - including people. People, plants, and animals definitely survived the others. Not many, but way more than none.
@bradpitt1263
@bradpitt1263 Жыл бұрын
Think about it the top of Westeros is the land of always winter but in esso they have the frozen lake what if there the same place they never truly showed the full map
@goddusopp7600
@goddusopp7600 5 жыл бұрын
I guess I am just a lore nerd because this is just too awesome!
@Mini-Toast_
@Mini-Toast_ 5 жыл бұрын
If your a real lore nerd check out IdeasOfIceAndFire.
@goddusopp7600
@goddusopp7600 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mini-Toast_ I follow them as well.
@Mini-Toast_
@Mini-Toast_ 5 жыл бұрын
The lore on this channel is as deep as a kiddie pool.
@SanskarWagley
@SanskarWagley 5 жыл бұрын
One of the spinoffs should be about Essos
@saljpal3
@saljpal3 5 жыл бұрын
One about the Valyrian Empire would be nice.
@RobinK
@RobinK 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Sothoryos. Mostly because of the wyverns, but there's a lot of unknown land and culture to be explored as well. I wonder how much they know about what's going on in Westeros.
@aleksandrastasevic6548
@aleksandrastasevic6548 5 жыл бұрын
Secrets of Essos there should be about Valyria,Old Gis and other mysteries that would be awesome!
@Yajna007
@Yajna007 5 жыл бұрын
I really want to see those Lands lying to the east of the Bone Mountains.
@tfos993
@tfos993 5 жыл бұрын
@@Yajna007 Asshai and Yi Ti
@Sizifus
@Sizifus 5 жыл бұрын
The mythical city of K'Dath is apparently a direct reference to Lovecraft lore. The city's inhabitants commit cruel rituals to appease the Dark God's that are connected to the church of the starry wisdom, the black oily stone and bloodstone and the fall of blood star that is referenced by Euron, Melassandra, and the legend of Yi Ti of how the bloodstone emperor brought the long night.
@MariaSCarr
@MariaSCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! Yes! Also, dragonglass heals grayscale and kills WW. Any connections there...of course!
@thedelacruz
@thedelacruz 5 жыл бұрын
Dragonglass cures grayscale? Is that bc of the book Sam was reading?
@shekoshekoha
@shekoshekoha 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why you haven't done a video about this and the empire of Yiti, glad you did it! Also HBO must do the Prequel of the Long Night bases not only in Westeros but also how the events unfolded in Essos! Since supposdley everything started there with the Lion of the Night
@straat9066
@straat9066 4 жыл бұрын
How do you figure that the Grey waste is filled with those afflicted by Grey scale? I cannot find this information anywhere.
@goranorrskog6296
@goranorrskog6296 5 жыл бұрын
But if you see the map, there's a possible way around to skip The Five Forts, which make them different to the wall.
@nonebussiness7138
@nonebussiness7138 5 жыл бұрын
exactly plus the wall in westeros was built by giants humans and we cant forget children of the forest who put magic into the walls to make it so The Others cannot pass
@christianballard4813
@christianballard4813 5 ай бұрын
Spinoff. Magic Monsters of essos meets the monsters of sothoryros meets the white walkers of Westeros. Evil vs evil.
@WesterlyWilderness
@WesterlyWilderness 5 жыл бұрын
The same black stone was used at the base of the hightower in Old Town, and also the sea stone chair. There are a few other mentions of this mysterious stone throughout the main books and in the world of ice and fire
@docrobinsonjr
@docrobinsonjr 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you spoke on this, so few aren't familiar with this👍👍
@Rocky_nami
@Rocky_nami 5 жыл бұрын
Who’s hyped for April!!!!!!!
@RobinK
@RobinK 5 жыл бұрын
I'm as hyped as a Lannister on Siblings Day!
@humbertoreyes5304
@humbertoreyes5304 5 жыл бұрын
Rocky who isn’t hyped for April is more like it!!! Any specific date for release yet though?
@RobinK
@RobinK 5 жыл бұрын
@@humbertoreyes5304 Two days ago, HBO announced season 8 will premiere in April.
@humbertoreyes5304
@humbertoreyes5304 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that but a specific day yet?
@RobinK
@RobinK 5 жыл бұрын
@@humbertoreyes5304 - No specific date yet :(
@scheiadams83
@scheiadams83 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just wish they were longer.
@kha3led386
@kha3led386 Ай бұрын
watched this back in 2k18 now video recommended again
@neilyoungboy
@neilyoungboy 3 жыл бұрын
I personally would love to see a spin-off about Yi Ti set during the same time as GOT>
@kriskimber3366
@kriskimber3366 5 жыл бұрын
Your intro gets me hype
@vincesergi7339
@vincesergi7339 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think the armor for night king looks like floor mats you see in cars.
@spacemonkey1071
@spacemonkey1071 5 жыл бұрын
The greasy black stone has to originate with "The Deep Ones." Once you look deeper into the legends of "The Known World," evidence seems to point that way. Definitely a theory that I subscribe to.
@iAkis4
@iAkis4 5 жыл бұрын
How GoT will end? Season 7 Epsisode 3! Bran Stark..'i must be ready for the Long Night'...
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry 5 жыл бұрын
Yup 🤷🏻‍♀️💯
@grokeffer6226
@grokeffer6226 5 жыл бұрын
When I read about The Five Forts I assumed that they were very similar to Dragon Glass, sort of like Orthanc in The Lord of the Rings. I also assumed that they were used to guard against The Others. Although I've read that GRRM has stated that the continents aren't connected in the far north, during a long winter, I'd think that surely it would be frozen enough that it could be crossed by White Walkers, unless this story doesn't take place on a globe. And that would be a bit too unconventional, even for me.
@jeffsilverman7200
@jeffsilverman7200 5 жыл бұрын
I read that grrm said that his world is earth. That would mean that its not flat. So they could cross.
@MTKWC
@MTKWC 2 жыл бұрын
My dude, are you not covering HOTD?
@overlycaffeinatedsquirrel779
@overlycaffeinatedsquirrel779 5 жыл бұрын
So we got to earth, ice, and fire zombies. Maybe the need to find heart zombies. Then with there powers combined they summon Azor Ahai!
@ayushgupta3231
@ayushgupta3231 5 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget they have a dragon now
@silvertemplar8061
@silvertemplar8061 5 жыл бұрын
I guess this is why the white walkers marched on Essos but within only a small area.
@EnigmaSeeker2012UAP
@EnigmaSeeker2012UAP 5 жыл бұрын
Winter is Trumping ;-)
@chrisklitou7573
@chrisklitou7573 5 жыл бұрын
My theory how GOT ends (not in order) Jon dies in battle he kills the NK but dies from injuries Daenerys dies in childbirth Jaime dies in Briannes arms Cersi gets killed by Jaime Gendry gets legitimised and becomes Lord of The Stormlands Yara dies and Theon kills Euron and becomes lord of the iron islands Jorah either dies in battle trying to protect daenerys or becomes lord commander of the nights watch Varys and Melasandre die Beric dies fighting a white walker Arya and the hound team up to kill the mountain. the mountain dies by Arya stabbing him on neck with a dagger but the hound dies from injuries. Sam becomes Arch meister Sansa becomes Warden of the North We find out the Bran went back in time and actually built the wall and he's actually bran the builder. All of the dragons die Bronn kills a white walker but gets killed by another. Jon and Daenerys baby becomes king and named Robb Targaryen Tyrion and Davos both become hands of the king We find out the Night King was a Stark Grey worm dies protecting Missandei. Podrick becomes a Kings guard Kings landing burns to the ground ending in ruins and covered in snow Thanks for reading.
@grokeffer6226
@grokeffer6226 5 жыл бұрын
All of this seems perfectly reasonable.
@chrisklitou7573
@chrisklitou7573 5 жыл бұрын
@@grokeffer6226 @Final Generation I walk you through it. Jon was resurrected he was on borrowed time. He was brought back to defeat the night king when he defeats the night king he will die. Since season 1 Daenerys has said she wants the throne and the viewers have seen it shoved down our throats but it's obvious she will never get it. Jaime said he wants to die in the arms of the woman he loves. you have seen through out the show he gradually started to dislike Cersi and started to love Brianne. When Cersi met a witch when she was a kid the witch said she would have 3 kids and would be killed by one of her brothers. She always thought it would be Tyrion that's why she never trusted him but I think it will be Jaime. There's no Baratheons left and the Storm lands has no lord so Gendry has to to take over. Euron will obviously kill Yara. Theon Will kill Euron and Will finally redeem himself by being Lord of the iron islands. Jorah Will not survive he has always said he would die protecting Daenerys and I think he will. Melasandre has already said she and Varys will both die. Beric has already died 6 times but 7 is a common number in Game of thrones and he will die one more time. We know The hound and mountain will fight each other for the hound to win is too predictable so I think Arya will help but both brothers die. Sam becoming Arch Meister is obvious. Sansa becoming Warden of the North is obvious we were shown how good she was at it in Season 7. The original Stark and builder of the walk was named Brandon Stark is that a coincidence or not we have already seen Bran influence the past with Hodor. All of dragons will definitely die they can't survive the world needs to be balanced. Bronn will do well in battle and finally show he's honourable and doesn't care about money or himself but will sadly die. Jon and Daenerys will definitely have a baby Remember the dothraki witch said only life pays for death that's why when her dragon died she can now have 1 child and i think it will be named Robb. Tyrion and Davos will both definitely survive we have seen through out the whole show how they are so good at being hands and how they love it and I think they both get the job. The Night King was definitely a Stark that's why when his army got past the wall you can see a wolf's head from the army. Grey worm has always said Missandei makes him weak I think none of the unsullied survive including him Podrick had said he's always dreamed of being a knight and I think he will at the end. Daenerys had a vision of Kings landing in ruins Also Bran had a vision with a dragon flying over kings landing what if that's the Night Kings dragon destroying Kings landing. Thanks for reading.
@Mini-Toast_
@Mini-Toast_ 5 жыл бұрын
You desperately need to watch IdeasOfIceAndFire or The Dragon Demands. If Martin would rather watch the man in the high castle than this show, there is a problem.
@themilkmansrevenge5051
@themilkmansrevenge5051 5 жыл бұрын
Sansa can't be warden of the North because if she passes a sentence she can't swing the sword
@chrisklitou7573
@chrisklitou7573 5 жыл бұрын
@@themilkmansrevenge5051 yes she can. Brann doesn't want to be Warden and Jon has no claim because he's a Targaryen
@NateBury
@NateBury 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Bonetown. That's sex
@ritwikraj8147
@ritwikraj8147 5 жыл бұрын
What would happen when white walkers will be touched by grayscale???
@housemilton5820
@housemilton5820 5 жыл бұрын
Man glad your back posting again. Love your videos. Keep it up through the long night.
@DUBAILY3
@DUBAILY3 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing work
@diegoperez3526
@diegoperez3526 5 жыл бұрын
In which books did you see this info?
@danjordan1
@danjordan1 5 жыл бұрын
Harpy is back !!!
@Guaranteed4Greatness
@Guaranteed4Greatness 5 жыл бұрын
Dan Jordan he’s been back fool
@voluntarism335
@voluntarism335 5 жыл бұрын
this is how game of thrones ends, the night king invades yi ti and wins and we see yi ti's emperors head on a spike. The night king rules the whole world
@nonebussiness7138
@nonebussiness7138 5 жыл бұрын
five forts makes no sense was it to keep the west out of the east or the east out of the west ?... makes no sense
@mayomaster1134
@mayomaster1134 4 жыл бұрын
The theory is that the Grey Waste in eastern Essos is connected to the Land Of Always Winter in Westeros since the world in Game Of Thrones is round.
@whispwindswept
@whispwindswept 5 жыл бұрын
ned stark intro > littlefinger intro from that other youtuber
@genstian
@genstian 5 жыл бұрын
But you can just walk over NGHAI and around the forts. Its also interesting that the oldest city in the world, K'Dath still stands and is feared by Shrykes. It seems less plausible that s some powerful undead force (sort of what the necromancers of Nefer might conjure up) would lie beyond.
@corbinskywalker
@corbinskywalker 5 жыл бұрын
Stop...Harpy time!!!
@alexstewart9747
@alexstewart9747 5 жыл бұрын
Some more information would be interesting.
@JustSomeGoy
@JustSomeGoy 5 жыл бұрын
If only the 7 kingdoms had taken the wall and The Watch seriously, those castles should have been manned.
@unowild
@unowild 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing theory, wow :-)
@Coolbrosdead123
@Coolbrosdead123 5 жыл бұрын
dragonglass heals grayscale and kills white walkers.........that fort is impregnable
@victoriasantoro6692
@victoriasantoro6692 5 жыл бұрын
Its simple:The Long Night fall in the all the world and the WW conquered all the world..The Lion of the Night God in Essos is the equivalent of the Night King ..The Maiden of Light is equivalent to the Night Queen ..Their Son is the Equivalent of Bran the Builder ..The Starks can be the children of the NK and the NQ at all.
@GhostTetr4
@GhostTetr4 Жыл бұрын
No because the night king was after the wall
@jona5820
@jona5820 5 жыл бұрын
Dragon glas wouldn’t be a great building material. It’s very fragile. Like, you know, glas.
@mannygranny9720
@mannygranny9720 5 жыл бұрын
It's fucking obsidian
@slamdunk987
@slamdunk987 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the 'night king' look different in some scenes than others? Sometimes he looks more human, then on the front of the season 7 poster he looks like something or someone else.. Just me?
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 5 жыл бұрын
TLH!!!
@drogna3905
@drogna3905 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@jose-gr7jg
@jose-gr7jg 5 жыл бұрын
They are all moving to essos xd
@JoniukasVader
@JoniukasVader 5 жыл бұрын
Back is Harpy...
@1010sams
@1010sams 5 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the background music all the way through the video
@Imperialistic82
@Imperialistic82 5 жыл бұрын
I think these mythical cities and creatures beyond the Five Forts may be not so supernatural. However, there are some truth to them: 1. K'Dath. I think this is true about what they say people are doing there. Like the Faith Militant, only worse. 2. Land of the Shrykes. Wildling tribes wearing lizard clothing so invaders think they are monsters. Also, expert in making shrieking sounds. 3. Cannibal sands. It's natural these people are cannibals so nothing new. 4. The Grey Waste. Another wildling tribe like the ones beyond The Wall. 5. Bonetown. A city decorates itself with bones from animals and humans. 6. City of the Bloodless men. People are maybe naturally pale there. Maybe some black and dark magic going on. 7. City of Winged men. Maybe people there are wearing paragliding capes, that makes them able to fly. 8. Lion of The Night. I'm tempted to say the Lion is somehow connected to The Great Other and White Walkers. The Lion Of The Night may be The Great Other in disguise and the Blood Emperor somehow summons him. So the demons and creatures that attacked Essos may be similar to wights. Desert zombies, shadow creatures, evil dragons and dark soldiers with a lion head as their commanders? All of them are a part of The Great Other armies.
@Guaranteed4Greatness
@Guaranteed4Greatness 5 жыл бұрын
Who else had the intro as their cell phone ring ?
@jesse3760
@jesse3760 5 жыл бұрын
Cool
@juiceman9072
@juiceman9072 5 жыл бұрын
@the last harpy.... Sooo, the Jon and Dany having a baby possiblity!? What's your thoughts???
@somedegreeofsundown2338
@somedegreeofsundown2338 5 жыл бұрын
obsidian is far to brittle for use in structures. you could literally knock the forts down with a five lb sledge hammer. And as weapons, probably would shatter on the first impact.
@ryanbutyter9199
@ryanbutyter9199 5 жыл бұрын
Great topic but I don’t think we will ever know the origin or purpose of the second wall. GRR Martin can’t even finish this story and isn’t getting any younger.
@Mini-Toast_
@Mini-Toast_ 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah IdeasOfIceAndFire beat you to it. Or, you stole it.
@thedelacruz
@thedelacruz 5 жыл бұрын
Ideas sucks...I agree with his points but he's a whiner..A bit pompous too. We get it..You read Dune....give it a rest.. plus neither one was 1st.. This is ancient history..
@phillygolf4229
@phillygolf4229 5 жыл бұрын
Ideasoficeandfire just made this video. Seriously the other day
@jessiesargent7212
@jessiesargent7212 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who doesn't care for him? Every other video is about how much he doesn't like something. It got old months ago and I'm happy he hasn't been in my feed as much lately. Now if KZbin could stop suggesting weird stuff in languages I don't even know, that would be nice.
@jessiesargent7212
@jessiesargent7212 5 жыл бұрын
@@phillygolf4229 why create already told us about this wall like a year ago
@fibo4108
@fibo4108 5 жыл бұрын
@@thedelacruz few asoiaf readers are fans of the last 3 GoT seasons (they were awful) so yeah. Wouldn't call valid criticism 'whining', the show just deserves it.
@nrsrymj
@nrsrymj 5 жыл бұрын
Westeros and Essos are connected via the LoAW and Grey Waste. GRRM says they're not but in my mind they are. It makes too much sense.
@chrysllerryu4171
@chrysllerryu4171 5 жыл бұрын
No they are not. If you look at the complete map of GoT ther is a huge ocean between them. And LoWA is further north than grey waste. There are several arctic isles north side of essos too.
@1klaymore
@1klaymore 5 жыл бұрын
Harpy your Game of Thrones videos went from A+ to a D. What happened? You lost the passion you had before.
@thedelacruz
@thedelacruz 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I mean I get it.. It can get to you. Harpy was the very 1st asoiaf channel I subscribed to and now all I get are 4 min clips with 2 mins of intro and out. C'mon man.. Do live feed or som..
@corby789
@corby789 5 жыл бұрын
Well I guess he's running out of material
@iare19
@iare19 5 жыл бұрын
There's absolutely nothing to talk about. Wait first episode.
@1klaymore
@1klaymore 5 жыл бұрын
?nothing to talk about?. Talking Thrones has good fresh material and posts about twice a week
@alexmccleod243
@alexmccleod243 5 жыл бұрын
I can't agree more and it's been for a rather long time too, not just the past several months.
@kevinmccarthy2795
@kevinmccarthy2795 5 жыл бұрын
Well done. And all u flat earth truthers watch out... if u “globe” westeros and essos into a sphere you might discover that asshai and the lands of always winter are closer than you think 😉
@__-yz1ob
@__-yz1ob 5 жыл бұрын
Let's talk when u have more knowledge about the asoiaf yeah?
@shilliojr
@shilliojr 5 жыл бұрын
old news
@BlUnTeY2004
@BlUnTeY2004 Жыл бұрын
Whays north of westeros *the lands of always winter*
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