As a support main, I just kinda like to help my team mates out more. It feels great to get a clutch heal/shield/body block and save your adc or mid lane. And playing support, as long as your team isn't completely oblivious, controlling objectives becomes easy. I think overall, supporting itself isn't "hard" (aside from when you're dealing with toxic entitled adcs). But you can drastically tell the difference between someone who gets autofilled, and someone who mains support. Supports, though lacking in damage, win the game in other ways.
@neveahphillips56103 жыл бұрын
Trying to get into support rn on an alt account (D2 Kha’Zix jg main). So far I’ve kind of gravitated to Pyke cuz…well it’s the closest thing to Kha’Zix, but I‘ve been trying to get into Nami to play with my Lucian otp friend. I’ve found that it’s really satisfying to set your team up, regardless of the fact that you don’t get any of the glory, it’s fun to stun someone and then watch the Lucian I helped get fed delete them.
@mjcwvo3 жыл бұрын
@@neveahphillips5610 you could check out Leona as well, my personal favourite. Although she doesn't have that broken Lucian synergy that Nami has, she can all-in so well (and survive) and bullying people with E-Q chains feels very satisfying. She's also quite forgiving because of how tanky she is.
@Pharalex3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can usually tell within the first minute if your adc is gonna be of use
@moesidd003 жыл бұрын
I like it because of play making potential more than other roles
@bulldozer89503 жыл бұрын
@@mjcwvo i remember one time a full tank support Leona 1 shot me when I was playing Ashe, and i did decent in lane. But somewhere around 30 minutes she dove into like half our team and still managed to kill me. After that I started banning Leona. Shits really strong.
@abham24113 жыл бұрын
I had a grandmaster coach me the way you did , but he was right behind me at a gaming cafe and I was with a friend , we were golds and just because of the confidence he gave us and helping with some macro we were SMURFING in high play, he was screaming in my ear to do stuff but it’s because I was not sure if I should or shouldn’t. This coaching works man and I felt good the next day playing confident and winning 15 in a row lol. Love this hard love coaching, after he said we have really good everything just not enough confidence and lacking macro late game
@Kisanari3 жыл бұрын
A lot of times people respond to the hard coaching better than the hand holding style. Sometimes you just need that little push to make you WANT to show what you are capable of that make you really shine versus someone telling you that you are capable of something you just aren't showing.
@premejon83003 жыл бұрын
When someone who’s higher rated than you, gives you that tough laugh coaching style. It’s almost parental, like a concerned father trying to get you from going down the wrong path. In this case the wrong path is being hard stuck silver 😂😂😂. Love Neace!
@abbasqamar1243 жыл бұрын
show me ur op.gg please!
@showtimer_3 жыл бұрын
been loving these support sessions, its nice listening to a smarter mind talk about its balance
@nickrounsville3 жыл бұрын
I love the "Why do you play support" style question, I wish I was asked this because I have a zero hesitation answer. When all the cogs on the team are working as they should be, your supports are the ones that have the game changer team fighting tools. It is so satisfying to make or break entire fights with something like a Thresh hook, Nami wave, Leona ultimate, ect. You are often the most under-valued person on the team sure, but it is one of the most rewarding positions when you play up to your potential. I've played for a long time, and as more people were slowly given more wards over time, I think it has largely been forgotten how important not only where your wards are placed - but when and how. Placing that "victory ward" near blue buff/gromp for example after you win a trade bottom, or making sure you have a good idea when their jungle is rotating your way... is just often overlooked because it's pieces of information that everyone obtains - but from one persons effort. It's often not your job to carry, but to make sure everyone else can succeed in their tasks. I never intended on specifically playing support, but I always go back to it. I started there by just always playing fill (back before you were always filled jungle..) I've been training other roles all year, not really getting that great at any of them. If you told me I had to pick one and stay with it, id probably still go back to it. Roaming is probably the biggest lesson I have learned as a support by playing other roles, because now I understand how big it can be for your jungle to help at scuttle or your mid to burn their flash.
@goblinyanutz3 жыл бұрын
Fr. I used to main jungle before support so I worked heavily on my macro decision making. I play support so I can feed our late-game carry early and make them relevant. I know where people SHOULD be. I will ping everything and focus on the macro decision making on the team that keeps us in the game, that way my team can focus more on the micro play that will win us the game.
@nickrounsville3 жыл бұрын
I would of drove Neace insane though two years ago, I was always under leveled and not ready for level 2. I am much more conscious to my choices and less afraid to mess up. I don't know how I was consistently getting to gold being 3 levels under level my counterpart.
@goblinyanutz3 жыл бұрын
@@nickrounsville yup because of Neace. I always prep for the lvl 2 all in. I watch so many of his videos and am able to help my duo improve passively because of it haha
@MrMeano3 жыл бұрын
As a support main you spoke the words in my heart haha
@WhitePum43 жыл бұрын
I played support just so I can be an absolute guardian for my adc and give them maximum potential to win lane and snowbball into godlike status passed laning phase, but you know, gold adc have apparently never played the game before.
@wefelbre3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a lot of people don't really seem to care about where they place their wards within bushes. Like the tri brush by blue behind tower. People never ward the tip so you can see around the corner to the blast plant. Like they don't understand how the vision ring works.
@peterrischel24933 жыл бұрын
i legit didnt know there was a vision ring because i had always had everything on smart cast, only recently switched to normal cast and it made me think so much more about my wards
@Hadesniisama3 жыл бұрын
@@peterrischel2493 You don't need manual casting to visualize the range of a ward. Yeah, visualizing is not precise for sure, but it is precise enough to know how much and where will it see. Manual cast only helps for me to not missclick outside of the bush.
@likenot30733 жыл бұрын
I think details like this don't matter at all, at least for diamond or below players. I'm plat and still have a ton of basics to work on, like not missing cs, champion mechanics, taking the right fights, knowing where to be on the map, and even remembering to put down wards at all. When I think about what I want to focus on improving before the game it's not some ward rings, it's simply things like hey try to focus on getting better cs
@Hadesniisama3 жыл бұрын
@@likenot3073 I agree, maybe only for support players but still, most of players below Diamond are practicing so much things to actually care every single detail on map tbh. I would prefer a player that knows how to play their champ to high extent or great macros on objectives but map-blind than someone who knows how to ward perfectly and pings me but plays like sh*t.
@mojolito3 жыл бұрын
@@likenot3073 Well of course, but it’s an easy fix that doesn’t take a lot to start doing. Might as well fix the little stuff while working on the big stuff.
@techastrophe3 жыл бұрын
I've been hardstuck silver for 5 years. I always thought my macro was good and my micro was bad. I'm finding now it is just the opposite... I'm OK at knowing my champion's limits and picking fights, but I suck at everything else. I feel like an AFK player. I'm considering the coaching for 1 or 2 sessions... your videos are absolutely blowing my mind. All other "How to climb" type videos I watched are just video essays talking about the basics of the game. You actually illuminate key important differences between players that climb and players that go 200W and 210L on the season in silver (not that far from my season 9 total, I think).
@Dendrothe3 жыл бұрын
49% win rate silver 3 here. Casual af since beta lol
@LTNZbeats2 жыл бұрын
@@Dendrothe im with ya buddy, king ramus silvers unite lol
@micdeezy95tillinfinity2 жыл бұрын
@@LTNZbeats aye!!
@martinfilipovic44273 жыл бұрын
When he asked why do you like support I was expecting " I love to engage" , "I like to peel" , "I want to set up fights and zone with my top laner" Im gonna watch the rest of the VOD now, but I see where this is going.
@lxNaginixl3 жыл бұрын
i dont think he wanted to work hard and that is why he wanted to be support, but he didnt know that being a support is a lot of work as well, there is no role where you dont have to do things
@ProkerKusaka3 жыл бұрын
Yumi 🤡 There is no position problems just blame your partner Joke ofc
@daniel5ihus3 жыл бұрын
Jungle karthus :p
@KaiUndMoritz3 жыл бұрын
@@daniel5ihus you have to invade perfectly so you are ahead and you dont die in the enemy jungle and you have to press r
@@KaiUndMoritz XD? Invading on Karthus. Do you even play this game above gold?
@thedewritos3 жыл бұрын
He also doesn't use his E nearly enough at the beginning of teamfights, it's ms and camo for your whole team, a really powerful tool to get your frontline in place.
@xCausinChaosx3 жыл бұрын
And untargetably, alot of Sennas forget this
@theressomelovelyfilthdownh43293 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. He barely used it all game. Also, useful when you need to sweep wards or get down your own vision.
@h3r0shy642 жыл бұрын
he often didnt use w aswell
@lag00n54 Жыл бұрын
@kjemi2202 did you watch the start? they said he is new to senna this is why he is doing a coaching to get better
@dreyfus37_652 жыл бұрын
Been spam watching your coaching videos lately. They’ve really been helping me out. Visualizing the cross from opponents to help with my movement, remembering to walk back when being walked up on when playing ranged champs, taking a second to assess the map after I get a kill to dictate what I do next. I swear, even though you’ve never coached me, some of the thing ms you’ve said live rent free in my head when I’m playing now
@Akoustikus3 жыл бұрын
I think I've watched this video about 4 times since I discovered it this morning. This is for sure the closest thing to getting direct coaching myself, all the same bad habits, etc. Thank you for sharing this one! I'm on a 10-year comeback as an elder millennial and I'm so thankful for all the detailed macro
@LoLFilmStudios Жыл бұрын
Mechanics will still be there, especially compared to some x->plats but at that age I find my mind doing more work, planning and being methodical.
@mojolito3 жыл бұрын
This is insanely helpful. Alot of concepts that I don’t usually verbalize explained here.
@Pewlander2 жыл бұрын
New Wild Rift player & DITTO
@GCatalinStefan2 жыл бұрын
Watchihng THIS particular video every single time before I play even a single ranked game the respective day. It opens my eyes in a lot of ways. One thing it made me figure out for both League and real life was that I was asking myself the wrong questions. Thank you for this vid, Neace!
@joshuaadams52953 жыл бұрын
Support is hands down to me the most fun role you can play. Not having to farm is amazing, farming is so boring.
@Pr0x1m1f1c4710n3 жыл бұрын
Just remember you still need to be able to last hit and know wave-states/wave management. It's very important for roaming and laning.
@michaelkennielsen14223 жыл бұрын
Farming is boring because you dont know how to do it well. The fun thing about farming is doing it while preassuring the enemy/taking preassure. Its an added dimension of the game.
@joshuaadams52953 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkennielsen1422 You're actually wrong I farm very well. I do just find it boring.
@michaelkennielsen14223 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaadams5295 Somehow i doubt that :)
@joshuaadams52953 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkennielsen1422 (:
@SticksAandstonesBozo3 жыл бұрын
Got back into the game after being away since 2013 and I spent two weeks getting back into it and watching countless videos. I know Neace from back then as the guy who was about to quit making content lol. But I’ve learned more useful info in 3-4 hours of watching these coaching vids than I have in weeks of playing again and watching other shit.
@100PercentMuscleUsage2 жыл бұрын
This man would be a good coach in basically anything he'd choose to master. I see a lot in you that I saw in my basketball coaches, good stuff.
@MrJonnyTapas3 жыл бұрын
I love the way you coach. In League... I've always been hardstuck bronze... ya I thought I was better, but there is enough data on our interwebs to proove I never did what was in my best interest to climb. In other games where I did do the things it takes to be top percentile. I was scared to coach others. They would think I'm insane. And you kinda have to be to reach that level. There is a massive gap between casual and competative. You sir have mastered all of the in between and are fantastic at sharing.
@Beaumoi Жыл бұрын
23:08 Neace picking up and cradling his cat, makes him not so scary to me 🥺
@kingofcairo47203 жыл бұрын
I like how this video got right into it and didn't leave us on a hook during the intro, so that I don't have to look through 44 minutes of video to find that part
@m0ko02 жыл бұрын
24:15 i don't understand why neace said it was a side to side shit when what i saw is someone movong backwards when blitz went on him (and neace say afterwards he should have moved backwards) , can someone explain pls ? I genuinely would like to understand
@johndoe-is2fw3 жыл бұрын
trust that you win. when i play lol once a year, my friend always tells me exactly how to play and its so relaxing having him make the calls and just follow trough withit.
@highcommander20072 ай бұрын
wait a MIN, this guy sounds EXACTLY like the guy that was saying theres "scrim server" and that he was being stalked in games!
@ryswick10643 жыл бұрын
Damn, if you look him up, he demoted to Bronze 2. Could've just afk'd the last couple weeks of the season and would've been a higher rank.
@YehNahYehAyy3 жыл бұрын
Difference between bronze 1 and 2 doesnt matter, or any rank for that matter tbh. Better to play and improve.
@ryswick10643 жыл бұрын
@@YehNahYehAyy He was silver...
@ProkerKusaka3 жыл бұрын
@@ryswick1064 isn't bronze2-1/silver/gold the same skill level? Never saw much difference between this ranks
@benjaminjensen31963 жыл бұрын
@@ProkerKusaka it’s definitely not
@hasseo13 жыл бұрын
@@ProkerKusaka Nah. There's a shit ton of skill variance in mid and high gold. Those Fulkerson are wild.
@GeraltORivia3 жыл бұрын
30:37 Lmao the guy is sweating hoping he doesn't lace into him for not getting the last hits meanwhile he's sitting there making his cat's face jiggle
@jeanbeausuperbeau2 жыл бұрын
cat 😊
@ash099s53 жыл бұрын
The T example for dodging skill shots was a very helpful visual thanks for showing that
@glort30513 жыл бұрын
You're the reason why i still keep playing this game Neace. Keep it up!
@Arob43433 жыл бұрын
Perhaps he should try a melee support? Because running toward the fight makes more sense then
@MidnightAhri3 жыл бұрын
thats a quick fix on a big issue, i feel like you should want to change that behavior before just masking it... just like the "this is too hard im going back to sona or yuumi" you cant just give up on something like this, i was an ahri one trick and i can also play adc now despite sucking at it... my sup skills are totally fine too apart from maybe warding, and i got to plat 1... so like... you need to get your fundementals up and those count even on melee champs
@Arob43433 жыл бұрын
@@MidnightAhri yeah. But there’s also something to be said about play styles for champions or classes of champions. Fundamentals sure but it seems like his play style might better fit an engage support (based on my memory of a video from a month ago)
@Nuvizzle2 жыл бұрын
I think melee supports who don't know how and when to engage properly are generally just going to int even more.
@christophermcewen45713 жыл бұрын
Ya I tried my best and watching it I see I made a lot of mistakes, not my best game but this how we learn.
@TheMMObro3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this made it to YT bc i was working during this. this was made for me. I play senna for the same reason but had a horrible WR, i changed my approach with her and have been seeing better results. I gotta keep at it. I main adc / supp but prefer adc so senna seems made for me
@ccdman49093 жыл бұрын
Senna adc Sucks
@joshwalton253 жыл бұрын
@@ccdman4909 fasting Senna is still legit, especially paired with a higher damage support like Zyra. Similar to Jhin, she provides more utility than raw dps.
@ccdman49093 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalton25 eh Idk
@joshwalton253 жыл бұрын
@@ccdman4909 I don't think she's a great adc pick in the current meta, but she's not trash either.
@TheMMObro3 жыл бұрын
For pure adc i do mf but sup i do senna which basically is fasting senna
@ZeGuyFly3 жыл бұрын
He holds on to abilities so long it's painful. 39:30 Vayne's getting hit, literally never Q's this entire fight
@DigitalKaizerTTV3 жыл бұрын
I feel like all Sennas do this.
@sajackson3 жыл бұрын
29:05 "I'm all for limit testing but there's some limits that don't need to be tested" ima hang that on my wall
@aaronyeh36523 жыл бұрын
Green Goblin retired as a villain to be a league coach? interesting.
@conanruisi Жыл бұрын
Early ignite is my favorite move as a support. Calling it early ignite is kind of a misnomer though, props to neace for this explanation. You don’t save ignite for low hp champions early game, that ignite damage is straight up OP
@_Libosido Жыл бұрын
Why he had in the inventory whole match _(except once when Neace told him to buy 2)_ only one Control Ward instead of two?
@stanislav46073 жыл бұрын
Instead of A+Left-Click you can use Shift+Right-Click, this way you always use right click and don't get confused in mouse buttons. Just use plain Right-Click to move away and then Shift+Right-Click to auto the closest enemy target.
@MrRockdabells3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this first 15 mins of the vid Neace. I gave up playing for the same reasons he plays support, but I can still appreciate the content, because this is something that apparently everybody knows for some reason..I just never did, never paid attention to stuff like that. I will not be a peeping Teemo for vids like this. Peace Neace
@FatFreeVideos3 жыл бұрын
25:51 They missed the tower plate gold by less than a second due to the hesitation to help push. I wept for a moment, lol
@falsearbitrator25603 жыл бұрын
Neace teaching people how to dodge. Vel'Koz: Allow me to introduce myself
@hiiambarney44892 жыл бұрын
I mean technically that's an easy dodge. Dodge the fkin' game, that is.
@PitAngelx3 жыл бұрын
"I feel like it's one of the things i've been good at, you know, healing" MF barely ever heals with his Q. At 25 minutes, he could have saved Zed if he healed him on cooldown. He waited for like 20 seconds, next to him while he was low life, doing nothing
@simplyspider43753 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I kept wanting him to hit any button, most of the vid. I'll give credit where it is due. He doesn't adc, so some concepts he will be learning the hard way. Even though he's support, Senna is a adc, dressed in support clothing. Decent comment, I seen the same a lot. ;)
@mimizdani81942 жыл бұрын
Lmao I noticed that too. Like duuuude heeaal him heaal
@Nuvizzle2 жыл бұрын
@@simplyspider4375 Man spent the last half of the game holding his exhaust for the next one
@2ReGaL23 жыл бұрын
This guy really needs to get faster at pressing his keys, kinda worried this is the level at silver. Guy literally full mana all the time not healing his teammates, I thought he said he like to be a healer.
@JohnDoe-mx1sq3 жыл бұрын
Silver really is ELO hell.
@Kai_soze3 жыл бұрын
Silver isn’t hard to get to, but it’s pretty hard to get out due to the amount of fucking shitters that are in that elo
@Okami4003 жыл бұрын
I have a buddy who is silver 4 and no lie watching him play is insane, to me he looks like an iron player. But yet he can beat silvers. I swear low elo is getting worse
@mccm24423 жыл бұрын
@@Kai_soze you crazy if you think its hard to get out of silver, only people that belong in silver have a hard time to make it out xD
@Kai_soze3 жыл бұрын
@@mccm2442 i dont even play anymore, but I was gold when I quit. When I first started I started at like bronze 1 then dropped all the way to bronze 5 then climbed to silver 1 then gold lol, then I quit. It was hard because of all the shitty players and cause I was a beginner.
@likenot30733 жыл бұрын
Pinging is highly underrated, at least for me it used to be. It's so easy to convey information and decide on a game plan just through a few pings, I'd usually not notice that but once I mute all pings I feel so lost in the game like I have no idea what my team is up to and have to constantly watch over every objective on the map and every champion and what's going on. I think it'd most important when you're deciding if you're gonna take a fight or not, whether it is during a gank or a jungle skirmish. Would be nice to have voice chat for deeper communication like saying if enemy top moves up here it means he has a vision on you, or try to gank me in one minute the wave is bouncing back, or just simple help me shove the lane I really need to go b
@JustShotsForMeh3 жыл бұрын
Disagree, muting pings has never given me so much peace of mind and time to make the proper decision.
@sS0ulSs Жыл бұрын
Brother.... This dude was in the army? With that lack of confidence and understanding of his surroundings? My man.... Sir no Sir.
@Mairdrin3 жыл бұрын
Been a support/healer type main in every game I've ever played. Love the playstyles and assisting teammates; I've never been remotely passionate about getting kills or being on the top damage board. Being the "top heals" in WoW PvP with like 9mil healing or whatever the hell against the other team's healer's 5mil is incredibly appealing to me. I love totally denying the enemy's chance to kill my teammates and really watching them shine when suddenly I give them a massive CD buff that enhances their damage by a shit ton and they just go ham. Sona denying kills and chasing down teams with all her teammates is so badass. A massive 5man stun for Aphelios to use his Infernum R? Fuck yeah, bring on those fireworks! I was drawn to the support role when I first went into League. My first purchase was Yuumi.
@littlelily8312 жыл бұрын
Yuumi main here. I love playing with my friends and running around on invisible Champs 😂 I have super high ping so I can't really play any other role. As Bizzleberry says we are the mothers of adcs, trying to keep them alive until they are useful 😂
@Music4Everyone3 жыл бұрын
With his game style he should play a tank as a support.
@AltairCreedZ3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have the mouse control to kite properly, panics during fights, and doesn't have enough layering, he just needs to play more, a lot more, until all these things come out naturally, then he can choose which playstyle suits him more.
@wvance03163 жыл бұрын
@@AltairCreedZ but currently, he plays ranged supports like leona, so why not just play leona?
@michaelkennielsen14223 жыл бұрын
@@wvance0316 From what i can see his biggest problem is that he has absolutely no dodge reaction in his fingers. He just doesnt react at all to skillshots - just takes them at face value. I'm sure that can be trained somehow but until he learns at least an ounce of sense of that anything beyond silver is a dream. I actually donteven know how he hit silver like that.
@typicalcookhouse94833 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkennielsen1422 or he just got nervous
@pritammishra69333 жыл бұрын
Leona or Naut. Just go in and stun/root the carry
@gabriellopes65363 жыл бұрын
so the hard dodge works in 99% of the cases, the only exception are lux ´s E and velkoz´s Q, thos i dodge in the champion direction and in diagonal(and always work strange enough)
@rafexinate2 жыл бұрын
he is going to have a more traumatic experience in lol than military. XD
@scottstipkovich51512 жыл бұрын
Bloke sounds defeated immediately haha, struggle town
@deftcam37063 жыл бұрын
Damn, he holds his cat like I hold my cat.
@oskartillgren95733 жыл бұрын
Mr neace you can press G also for pings
@TheMeathead623 жыл бұрын
support main, reason i play is the utility/cc you are capable of. Nothing feels better then a deep thresh hook on someone who thinks they got away
@stcy0003 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channels. I am loving your content. I am now learning new things about the game that I have never known before. and the question "Why do you want to play support?" made me stop and think. The current answer is my comfort picks are usually played in support (Morgana, Leona and Zyra), but I see there is more to support than that. I will need to go back and look at some of your older content to see what else I can learn
@Pr0x1m1f1c4710n3 жыл бұрын
You can watch brizzleberry if you want to improve as support. I checked him out to polish my zyra gameplay.
@cameronweaver39333 жыл бұрын
Another great zyra player is Melyn on twitch or youtuve
@PvtPJ3 жыл бұрын
there is nothing worse then someone chew a gum with his mouth open...
@ragefacememeaholic53663 жыл бұрын
I play quite a bit of Senna, boots of swiftness are the correct boots of choice because her only escape is her E which is merely a movement speed buff. She needs the increased movement speed to position herself correctly and get where she needs to go. Jhin another champ with only a small movement speed increase in his kit also needs boots of swiftness.
@e4zyphil3 жыл бұрын
hmm yea boots of swiftness are the correct choice, but for more reasons than you listed here. one thing far more important is that both jhin and senna don't get as much value out of attack speed.
@rotzbananeyt12273 жыл бұрын
this tipp is not only good for league ,,why are we not confident that we win,, that is a tipp everyone in everygame should know
@TylerReid23 жыл бұрын
TIL about the green circle when placing wards.
@ronaldvlasic38823 жыл бұрын
Playing off Lock Screen is so minor. Made it to D1 pushing masters on locked screen. Makes no difference if you’re a good player, you can do the same on Lock Screen as you can without. It’s personal preference, doesn’t make as big of a deal as is stated
@traddcooper3 жыл бұрын
It picks at me how long it takes him to use senna W. He could have been starting team fights or helping get picks by landing AOE roots over walls but he always saved it until he was about to die… and then died anyway.
@ryansymonds57853 жыл бұрын
Do you actually know what AOE stands for?
@traddcooper3 жыл бұрын
@@ryansymonds5785 Area Of Effect. Senna’s root is an AOE around the target after they get hit. Why do you ask?
@League____3 жыл бұрын
@@traddcooper cringe tryna correct you about senna's root not being AoE when it it in fact, AoE.
@BCencounters3 жыл бұрын
Also when he's losing cs to tower at mid when solo he can w stun the wave before it crashes tower to farm it without the tower hitting it, his wave was there to hold it off the tower.
@melancholybobbyjoe2 жыл бұрын
I just started playing support. I got tired of 0/12 Sonas running around face checking bushes and dying. I feel like I have a little more impact as support than I did in other lanes since another person in my lane depends on me to pull my weight. Also, support is just fun. I love the champ pool.
@adamdaigle8473 жыл бұрын
I don't play league of legends anymore but the format in which these videos are laid out is addicting.
@christopherlin42373 жыл бұрын
9:30 holy shit so thats how polypuff does his warding trick at the dragon pit
@joexplainz2708 Жыл бұрын
the akali smurfed on them with 114 cs in 31 minutes XD
@haley24313 жыл бұрын
I just started playing league maybe a week or so and it is soooooo fucking hard to learn these videos are so helpful. As someone who’s only ever played valorant and overwatch on pc, league is like nothing I’ve ever played and there’s so much shit to learn
@ysl310x3 жыл бұрын
I like it better those games are too simple
@moeruyuki2413 жыл бұрын
31:43 ''cause u are squishy, you cant walk up'' Procceds to bonk yorick in the head with the gun.
@AnAverageBoss3 жыл бұрын
30:10 watching this guy try to CS under tower was painful, NO WONDER he only plays support. Seems like a decent student gl to this dude
@Sterlonian3 жыл бұрын
Dude was in the army and now solo Q's as support. The man is a masochist.
@gangplankenjoyer55603 жыл бұрын
Why does this guy sound like half of the guys in these coachings?
@bacardibatman29963 жыл бұрын
Watching people place wards in game pains me. A lot of the time a mid will through a ward in the river brush just over the wall, but they place it so close to the wall that it doesn't even see the whole width of the river
@Gumbocinno2 жыл бұрын
He fell to Bronze 2 but he's sporting a 71% winrate on Soraka. He doesn't want to climb that badly, he just wants to chill and play. Seems like wasted money on the coaching.
@7evYT Жыл бұрын
The fight at 24:30 he held his W the entire time. Then I kept waiting for neace to yell "w, W!, W!" but he never did lol.
@n1ng1012 жыл бұрын
omg when he picked up his cat into his arms
@KjtheGreatPro3 жыл бұрын
Neace reminds me of lord voldemort still in tom riddle phase. Ruthless. Talented. To the point. Evvvvvvile. haha
@sittingwonderduck3 жыл бұрын
1:31 "Your pinging fucking sucks." Imagine your teacher tells you that
@diglyd3 жыл бұрын
In his defense, at 4:00+ during the breakdown, that Vayne screwed up. She is out of position not anticipating the engage, and wastes her tumble early as a result instead of saving it in case Varus Qs as she needs to get closer, but then she hits the minion behind her instead of Swain because she was probably using mouse button 1 attack move click. She then takes a poke from Varus who at this point does no damage. Then she doesn't condemn Swain into the wall or aa him either or Varus, she hesitates instead just standing there and eats that Varus Auto. It was still a bad engage by Senna being low health and engaging on Swain while he was full, while Vayne was out of position, and while Varus was right there able to poke Vayne if she approached or Senna, and while she was out of position but that Vayne could have at least hit the Swain and condemned him into the wall or either knocked back Varus and turned on Swain, or condemned Varus into the wall (which would have been better) so he wouldn't have free hits on Senna and kill her. That Vayne should have killed at least one of them or disengaged the Senna. Should could have done both. Varus was going after Senna so she had free hits on him as Swain already disengaged. She didn't condemn him or hit him at all after the heal she instead went after Swain. It was still an overall clusterfuck but the Vayne imho deserves more blame than the support at least once the engage begins. She was less confident then the supp. What amazes me watching some of these videos is that in silver, or gold or even plat I see people like this Vayne being completely braindead. Yet when I used to play some games in bronze or Silver 4 I would get non stop stomped by some super mechanical ADCs that play like they should be on some LCS team, never missing a single minion, knowing their positioning perfectly, punishing me for every single minion I try to get, and of course they would have some Pyke with them that would go 8-0 in 8 minutes murdering everyone as the roamed. Like in my games no one ever played as shitty as what I see in these lower elo up to plat, videos or as braindead as this Vayne unless it's like Iron 4.
@OBODZ13 жыл бұрын
Dude was just as bad and does not understand how to capitalize on mistakes and lv 2 advantage. Its not a bad engage, it was easy kill or Flash burned if he does everything right and eats pot slightly earlier. Cancelled auto, late Ignite, late Flash, no ping on Swain. People by default adds their abilities too early so Vayne missed out on the chance to add E first at lv2. If u looked at how the guy played later on, his mechanics in general is terrible even for a Silver hes very slow in everything he does and holds on to abilities super long for no reason. Almost never healing others or himself with Q even with full mana. He has a long way to go to improve.
@nyronkhan54863 жыл бұрын
Think support requires the most discipline. USUALLY you’re not the carry and you have to set up your team to do it for you. Getting / Denying vision, Peeling, Engaging, etc. Good supports almost always indirectly responsible for setting up the win
@シズ-i9x3 жыл бұрын
tbh just vision and peeling alone get you out of this kind of elo quick though
@YuYuYuna_3 жыл бұрын
Discipline maybe, I think it's more just a confidence issue with supports in low elo. The instant the enemy bot moves at them they do nothing and the majority of the time they're sitting on full HP + mana which is especially frustrating to see if they're a poke or mage support (looking at literally every zyra player in silver/gold)
@nyronkhan54863 жыл бұрын
@@YuYuYuna_ that’s true as well, I meant in a game sense, you’re not gonna be the guy to go 20/0 or you won’t be directly carrying, or your adc is doing bad adapt play around another role who’s ahead till your adc farms up, it’s literally macro babysitting.
@nic.h3 жыл бұрын
@@nyronkhan5486 I've certainly had some times when I've become the carry as a poke mage support, it wouldn't be common though
@nyronkhan54863 жыл бұрын
@@nic.h of course lmao I’ve seen zyras hard carry good ones tho that’s why I said usually
@megumin48733 жыл бұрын
9:17 WOW I've been playing for 7 years and I never knew this
@oranji63863 жыл бұрын
when mean neace comes out, you know the good tips are coming. seriously i just want neace to scream at me, i swear it just fucking works
@ShiruSama14 ай бұрын
19:50 he didn't click because you said "move your camera up there". I ALWAYS click on the minimap, don't like moving the camera like that, but when I heard that I thought you wanted that. He probably is like me, taking the words literally.
@ScootALMS3 жыл бұрын
Just started playing league a few months ago and this vid is helping me see what I do wrong! Great vid
@lucidegaming3 жыл бұрын
watching this i see how i have an ego about my champ and now i can work on it thank you
@BlueRidgeBubble3 жыл бұрын
My mechanics were plat 1, but my decision making was silver Little help from my diamond and challenger friends with decision making and I shot right up to where I needed to be
@michedepain66442 жыл бұрын
In a hot only male gay sona. you're right.
@BlueRidgeBubble2 жыл бұрын
@@michedepain6644 I remember being 12 years old
@michedepain66442 жыл бұрын
@@BlueRidgeBubble good thing, you're average.
@allmightygir48653 жыл бұрын
Didn't know the cursor thing for confirming wards in brush. Cool stuff!
@pkphantom3 жыл бұрын
This guy plays Senna with the wrong mindset hearing his reasons for playing support. I'm a Senna one trick, and the reason I chose her and chose support for this season wasn't to reduce my responsibilities; it was so I could do MORE. The way I see Senna was that she is 2 roles woven into one package. When it's time to collect data on the map, you use your E, pop your sweeper lense and drop/clear vision. And then when the team fights start, you post up behind your initiators and do Senna things with your Q and W. When the fights starts, you can contribute no matter where you are with her ultimate... I didn't pick Senna support to do less than I would do on my OG role(adc). I picked Senna support so I could do BOTH jobs in game. If you don't pick a champion or role because you believe you can solo win on them, then you shouldn't be playing that champ or role PERIOD.
@alexalmadovar62513 жыл бұрын
bro u playn eu west ? . i have all ello accs, wanna test some champs for senna sup
@Sidiciousify3 жыл бұрын
If youre an* one trick u arent even playing the game and youre honestly hurting your team. There is no such thing as a one trick.
@Darrentime3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video thanks! I learned a lot!
@dylanfarris76473 жыл бұрын
Any support should do 2 things when choosing their champs. Play Liona, or Nautalis because even if your ADC is having a really bad game, you can still CC the living shit out of the enemy team. Or just play a mage support and become the carry yourself. You cannot trust ADC's below diamond to have the positioning required to play that role effectively in most games.
@ogaimon33803 жыл бұрын
Oh yes the secret picks liona and nautalis only available to people who spend 1000 dollar
@Vinicius-Bigode3 жыл бұрын
I literally did just that in my past game and turned a lost game into a win. Died like 13 times because I played too aggressive and still manage to remove a 12/3 Caitlyn off the game with a point and click ability. You just walk up and pick someone immobile to say "Hey! You're not playing League of Legends for the next few seconds." Zero fucks given, they deserve it, you can't just pick Seraphine into Nautilus and expect me to watch you sing.
@ashleemae96813 жыл бұрын
I'm a Leo main and Naut is my second main. Yes, they can totally change the game but only if you have a follow up. If you are playing with passive players, its screwed. I can't tell you how many times I've set up that would have been double or triple kill for our team if they just would have followed me up but didn't.
@StayFlyJW3 жыл бұрын
@@ashleemae9681 have to ping intent. Players don’t want to make their own decisions. They want to be able to blame someone else. Ping like crazy and don’t be afraid to take blame of a bad play
@Vinicius-Bigode3 жыл бұрын
@@StayFlyJW Exactly, ping like crazy, eventually they will learn and follow. Also, no matter the gamestate, your shear presence will scare the enemy, the thought of a Leona or any hook guy coming at you is enough to make them missplay.
@kuzon5652 жыл бұрын
So as a Ornn support I learned from this in terms of having adv but not taking it due to doubts as well as getting my movements and camera control better
@ypaut2 жыл бұрын
who is the champion with the big ass shuriken (sortof) on bot lane?
@marcusmeins1839 Жыл бұрын
Sivir
@icspps3 жыл бұрын
"Move in straight lines, no diagonals." Sees a Diana, and begins sweating.
@patrickpasson72473 жыл бұрын
Why did he not Q through his team mates or turrets ?? extend range + a little heal cant hurt. Love this channel every video I pick up tons. At least its not a Coach who will sweet talk you and says thank you for the money, I love the direct and honest way of communication. A question for anyone here on the channel. Is there a good way to get your brain trained for attack move. I do it at the start of the game but when things get more frantic in mid to late game my brain defaults back to all bad habits. (not only using attack move).
@unclevladdydaddy32203 жыл бұрын
Always bind attack move click to T and attack move (a by default) on x, solved my issues but it's different for everyone depending on how you actually have your hand on keyboard etc
@AngelusDarkshadows3 жыл бұрын
Main Leona here... I love these coaching lessons, cause it helps me see what I'm doing wrong on my mechanics. I know now I need to ping more. I don't ping nearly enough what I should be pinging. Brush control, Pink warding, Sweeping, Assisting Objectives, Pot usage, Pinging, No-jerk movement... Lots of things to improve in my game to get out of ELO hell xD
@zapador3 жыл бұрын
"The nice and squishy support", oh man do we all love those!
@19blixen3 жыл бұрын
Im wondering about the title. He does play like a low silver support. So I just don't understand the title.
@moonlightlocus52963 жыл бұрын
I think he implied that he was lower than low silver. The lowest of low.
@tylerlindsey47723 жыл бұрын
@@moonlightlocus5296 hey there are players that have been in iron since iron came out, you can always go lower
@Matt-sl1wg3 жыл бұрын
For context, he fell to Bronze 3.
@Coltergeizt3 жыл бұрын
omg the choncc!!! when you picked that cat up. so cute
@Lionhart1991 Жыл бұрын
Wait last time i saw your videos (last year kinda) you were not willing to do it with supports right? Really happy to see you do coach the supp role also!
@MikeO-H Жыл бұрын
I started as a top laner... had some time as a jungler, had terrible internet and got routed to support 90% of the time before the roles system came in, learnt the ward game... I'm now a support main because I like supporting the carry no matter what lane they come from, I tend to match ADC damage or i'm first or second damage in the team, but silver for life Support is extremely difficult to climb with as you are reasonably reliant on the ADC to take your queues and know how to manage the lane particularly in low ELO
@SinSacrifice Жыл бұрын
So I have a bad habit of commenting as I watch but at 5:41 he definitely could have gotten that soul while still walking up as he's getting his level 2
@MiloThatch4202 жыл бұрын
Boots of swiftness are good boots on senna because her auto attack animation takes a long time. So you sacrifice movement every time you shoot. And vs a blitzcrank, you really want to be quick on your toes not to get hooked.
@randomrandom4503 жыл бұрын
When I first started playing ranked many seasons ago, I started playing support, I was actually playing Nidalee support, before her rework and her spears would oneshot people. I first placed bronze 3 and got my way into silver 4. Then I realized.... why do I play support ? Those people suck ! I remember getting insulted because I didnt shield with Janna the skillshot they didnt dodge, even tho I actually shield that other skillshot they didnt dodge and my shield was on cd. So I switched to mid and played Karma mid for a couple seasons until they nerfed her to the ground and now I'm actually a top main. 2 of my friends are maining support, one of them is always duo and the other has failed his plat promo 3 times cause he's just unlucky with his teamates.
@BouncingTribbles3 жыл бұрын
Lol, i use the same principle for warding. If you can remember all the wards you dropped you're not warding enough
@NoOne-rg1og3 жыл бұрын
rule of thumb for baron pit warding, place it in front of baron spawn. itll cover it all
@heavyflamerheresy25813 жыл бұрын
I used to place it in The Baron itself cause it would target The baron and not The ward the same for the drake you could place it under it and the enemy would have a a lot of trouble to get the ward away. But that was when you could upgrade your support item on the first back if you had enough gold you.