There Might Have Been Another Race Before Humans

[@martinsevera7276]

Lizzid people

[@togramratan]

Fear the crabcat!!! 😂

[@selfpeacegamingofficial9232]

Why files fan

[@MrMojitoguru]

Anyone see a camel riding goldfish here? 🤓🐪

[@BarryHWhite]

Bloody fish

[@SusieDaw-ix6pv]

Hecklefish rules!

[@jimthelegend9992]

It’s always cool to learn about Zuckerberg’s lineage

[@jimparr01Utube]

Might be the Mandela effect...

[@JJL716]

😂

[@Stable_Genius]

😂 That's some old fashioned anti-semitism.

[@digitalT83]

lizards?

[@kitefan1]

@@Stable_Genius Only if it's generic. Disliking an individual person is just dislike.

[@MikkellTheImmortal]

I'm a geology nerd so that's where this comment is coming from; When you look at an early Greek amphitheatre you can easily see how after millions of years of erosion it would look like nothing more than the scarp of a landslide hiding the fact that thousands of people smiled, frowned, laughed and cried while seated watching a performance for no reason other than a distraction from their lives, because to quote Simon Whistler "The past was the worst".

[@carlvege1775]

Multiple billions of people buried all over the planet in mass Graves and all the digging we do it's just impossible to find 1 they found all the Graves of the engineer's who built the pyramids but we can't find 1 of an advanced race come on. Something will be left when we're gone. All the genetic alterations we do someone will know about us.

[@stephenmadl5609]

Do you know anything about the Great Unconformity?

[@MikkellTheImmortal]

@@stephenmadl5609 yes, why do you ask?

[@stephenmadl5609]

Just wondering. It blew my mind when I learned about it.

[@AND-od5jt]

Since you're (practically) a geologist: With enough energy, would it be possible to move tectonic plates? (Like to push Atlantis waaaay south -- and ripping up the path in the process ofc)?

[@matthewwasser5621]

Star Trak: Voyager, which aired in the 1990s, had an episode called Distant Origin, which they encountered an alien race that evolved on Earth from dinosaurs millions of years ago. I forget the name of the race. Great video, I like it.

[@nicoj84]

I remember that episode and It always made me wonder. The Voth.

[@matthewwasser5621]

@@nicoj84 Thank you for reminding me the name of that race. It always made me wonder, too

[@jamesvoller167]

Doctor who did that line. And still does. The Silurians. One of my favourite storyline. Then there's HP Lovecraft"s numerous pre-human civilisations.

[@palmarolavlklingholm9684]

Stargate also have a race that developed on eart before us. The Ancients. Allthough they were called the first version of humans. Basically they were human except for small biological differences. If I don't remember wrong, they were a bit stronger, they lived a bit longer, and generally were a bit more intelligent than the Modern version of humanity.

[@jamesvoller167]

@palmarolavlklingholm9684 I never saw stargate.

[@MrHws5mp]

There's an old sci-fi short story called "The Green Maurader" by Larry Niven (from his 'Draco Tavern' series) in which an immensely long-lived alien tells a shocked human about the species that was inhabiting Earth the last time she swung through this neck of the woods, _before aerobic bacteria transformed the atmosphere_ and wiped them out. Apparently she was sad that they, and all trace of their bio-based (and hence bio-degradeable), technology gone because she liked their arts and music. Not to worry though, the oxygen-breathing evolved apes were quite interesting in themselves and would provide much for her to trade and entertain herself with on her travels. The human was left to wonder about what the alien would find on her next circuit of the galaxy, and who, or what, she'd be telling stories about him to... (Edited to include correct names of the stories and the sex of the alien)

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

Dang I'd like to know for sure cause that sounds like an interesting one.

[@lindseyariegel7703]

I'd love to read this.

[@earthwormjim91]

Dude please figure out the name I wanna read

[@beateljuice1]

Hikers guide to the galaxy rings a bell, may be.The story you describe sounds familiar.

[@Coensel]

The story is called "The Green Maurader" by indeed Larry Niven. It was part of the book "The Draco Tavern", also by Larry Niven. However, there is a book called "Tales from the Spaceport Bar", edited by George H. Scithers and Darrell Schweitz. This is collection of short scifi stories (basically like "The Draco Tavern") and the first story in this book just happens to be that same "The Green Maurader" by Larry Niven. So props for your memory OP!

[@Averagegunenthusiast]

Star Trek Voyager explores this, in the Delta quadrant they are followed by an advanced race so advanced the Voyager crew doesn’t detect them. They follow them because the humans dna is so similar to theirs more similar than any other race they have encountered. Eventually it is revealed they are dinosaurs who left earth millions of years ago, they had been in space so long they forgot where they came from.

[@BlooMule]

So, the PETM may have been the result of a massive Earth fart.

[@dunringill1747]

I remember that - it was a great episode. They were hadrosaur descendants. The episode had some good sci fi social commentary. I won't say anymore incase I give spoilers to those who wish to watch it. I looked it up. It is Star Trek Voyager 3x23 "Distant Origin".

[@jay6817]

I was just about to quote this

[@DannydavitoMelapelas-sm4ns]

​@@dunringill1747thankx for not spoiling it

[@ShpirtSvensson-rm1gr]

Lol, what a bunch of neeerds. Bye losers 🖖

[@davidanderson_surrey_bc]

Actually, if ancient Greek literature can be accepted, dinosaurs have been known to humans for thousands of years. It's just that the occasional discovery of some large, oddly configured skeleton was attributed to mythical creatures such as dragons or griffins or chimeras.

[@guardian2598]

It’s not much of a stretch, most do not realize our ancestors lived with megafauna. Legends are true, probably no shape shifting or fire breathing but these legends most certainly are based on some real creatures. Also there is some recently discovered strata that man and non-avian dinosaurs coexisted.

[@ofAwxen]

Carvings of dinosaurs have been found on ancient Indian temples

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

I can roll with that, it's totally understandable that without current information and knowledge that something unknown would end up being described in an exaggerated manner and end up as lore rather than history, to modern people. I think given the right lens, a lot of things could make more sense about things like that.

[@razorsharpplays2619]

You would need better evidence to be able to know if that was truly the case or not though. Like I can say that the Greeks, Egyptians or any other ancient civilization believed in aliens because they worshipped gods that lived in the sky, but that doesn't make it an accurate statement. Although it makes sense to us from our modern perspective that it could be the case, it doesn't always mean it was the case. People have made up stories for a very, VERY long time and there's not a good way of knowing if those stories had any truth in them or if they were entirely fiction or to what degree they were fictional or truthful. We would need some sort of written or physical evidence that suggests that ancient civilizations did paleontology to be able to draw connections like this.

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Mammoth skull is a cyclops

[@mr.brightside2.0]

I absolutely love your videos mate. My 10 year old son and I have been watching/listening to your videos before bed for years now. Thank you for helping my family expand their knowledge and curiosity through your videos. Cheers! 🤘🏻😎

[@petercox1925]

The funny thing is that the Doctor Who writers accidentally named the Silurians after a period that didn't have any dinosaurs. This was addressed decades later when the Peter Capaldi Doctor told his companion that she couldn't name the monster, he named the monsters, otherwise it would "be the Silurians all over again!"

[@alphalunamare]

As a Siluren who fought the Roman's I did appreciate their Wine in Caerwent at the time.

[@cheylikespie]

i came here specifically looking for a DW comment

[@themarlboromandalorian]

Earth in doctor who also had a second reptilian race known as the sea devils. Was also a species known as the draconics but I forget if they're from earth. Doctor who predicted lots of stuff. Ice volcanos, exoplanets, Apollo 13, the second Mona Lisa... Pretty sure the show is just a poorly written documentary.

[@loftus4453]

I was just about to mention the Silurians. You beat me to it! 😂

[@craigmoyle2924]

​@@alphalunamarefor some serious information relating to caerwent and the silures go to marco guy biblical britain decoded start at his first episode if you want your mind blown

[@GLGopher]

Crab people, crab people......

[@jonaskrakauskas706]

Walk like crab, talk like people 🦀

[@randomyoutuber9834]

Walk like people, talk like crab 😮

[@florida-man_850]

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[@Wickwok]

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[@leroy366425]

Under the seaaa 😂

[@MrMZaccone]

When I was a kid, I read a sci-fi book called "Stranger From the Depths" that hypothesized a survivor of this kind of civilization held in suspended animation for millions of years, found and revived in the modern day. It was written for a juvenile market but the kind of fun idea that would make a pretty cool movie right about now.

[@Devesh_Padayachee42069]

I used to read books before the galaxy S4 came out, and even before that I heard of this book but couldn't find a copy in any of my local libraries, is there anywhere I could read a digital version?

[@MrMZaccone]

Sorry. I don't have a clue where to find a copy. I originally got it through one of those school book programs.@@Devesh_Padayachee42069

[@bryanergau6682]

They made that movie a long time ago...... It's called Encino Man. And if you want another example, try Idiocracy.

[@JohnstasBACK]

Yea that’s great. Pitch it!

[@fuzzywzhe]

You might want to look up World of Ptavvs by Larry Niven.

[@TnT_F0X]

But Thoughty2 you forgot about Those radioactive isotopes that can ONLY be made through fission and radioactive waste we found in 'ore' they say happened by accident.

[@laurabrossard1661]

there was enough uranium 235 back then for natural reactor to occur. there was even some in human history

[@guitarandrums]

Yea that’s not true

[@PaisleyPatchouli]

So... NOT blood drinking lizards... maybe COFFEE drinking lizards?

[@imnotahippie22]

Yep

[@azrael6074]

That's why America runs on dunkin lol

[@stacythomas9916]

Sounds like Ziltoid the Omniscient lol

[@highendservicesbarrieont8347]

Lizards that could ferment produce......

[@inyahead]

Thoughty2 has a way of making people feel massive appreciation for the Earth, it just makes you realize how little time a human life really lasts. Perspective is everything.

[@outofcompliance1639]

He still suggests the BS that CO2 is might be bringing in another mass extinction. No credible scientist is saying that.

[@Zookeeper.]

I feel you, @inyahead.

[@grumpus_hominidae]

Absolutely agreed! Who's to say we're not the first iteration of life in the cosmos? Or, who's to say we ARE the first iteration of life on this planet? Nobody knows... These are the things that occupy my brain, LoL 😂

[@petersengupta]

Fourty2*

[@TheWhitefisher]

@@grumpus_hominidae First question: nobody is saying that. Second question: geology. Archaeology. Paeleontology. There's enough information available that if you stacked the books together, it's probably taller than the books you'd get from stacking up your genealogy. Why don't you occupy your brain with actual, evaluated information. You will eventually make your way down to mystery. The rest of the human race seems to think that if we just let people say what they want, things will work out--well, I say no. There is evidence available to you. You are being irresponsible. Use ockhams razor. Use logic. Use your faculties. Your own faculties--what's in your head. Teach yourself how to do that, through practice. And then try to evaluate the world. People were doing a better job than you, two thousand years ago with the Greeks. Four thousand years ago with the Egyptians. Twelve thousand years ago, in Turkey, with people we don't know the name of. And you are here on KZbin, doing this. [edit: corrected a typo, plus I called the Egyptians the Romans for some reason]

[@bigolbearthejammydodger6527]

something to consider: When I was working as a comp sci student at sheffield university there was a project for storing data on crystals using lasers to flip the electrons (bits). We found some crystals dug up from the ground were essentially pre formatted, and not at all random as expected. I still dont know if there was ever an explanation for this - but at the time it was very bizarre and cause a lot of UFO types some big interest. Personally I believe that human civilization was more advanced pre the near extinction event aprox 13k years ago, I think this the most likely explanation for various artifacts that have been found, including those pre formatted crystals.

[@EsotericIntel]

Pre formatted? Could the data be interpreted?

[@bigolbearthejammydodger6527]

@@EsotericIntel no they were essentially blank. but they were BLANK - rather than either random or specifically aligned due to near by magnetic fields - our 2 expected states.

[@dougdimmadomeownerofthedim3072]

What an imagination you have

[@reveriesend4668]

@@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 so you're saying they're like empty disc?

[@ProtossOP]

13k years ago extinction event… Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock say hi.

[@iratozer9622]

I do appreciate the fact that you waited until the end to ask for support. I do enjoy your presentations. I hate it when sites beg for support right from the get go. How do I know if I want to until I have watched their video?

[@mrh3438]

i've been watching this guy on and off for years now, never runs out of material and the level of facts is shocking, always well delivered too.

[@DS-nv2ni]

Brainwashing machine, the earth is not a sphere rotating in space.

[@Coktane_]

There's always more to know

[@Grandassets]

Another good one I have watched for a long time is the why files WF they report facts and you decide its pretty much unbiased, not anyone agenda centered channel:) Even though we may watch with a bias LOL

[@mrh3438]

@@Grandassets I'll have a watch 👍🏼

[@Xervlamorte]

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[@gavinrush4995]

It’s good content but it’s science fiction/fantasy, I would hesitate to call it educational.

[@kenyattafrazier]

@@gavinrush4995it’s definitely still educational. It’s still rooted in science and history most of the time, it just covers topics that are out there

[@craiggibbons8228]

​@@gavinrush4995Some parts are accurate and others are dubious

[@bloemundude]

So, there may have been a time when giant, 20-ton amphibious Hecklefish roamed the shores? This needs to be added to the science books!!

[@4QBUD]

Not to mention the CrabCat thought by many to be extinct. You know, like Big foot

[@palestar828]

Love this

[@bloemundude]

@@4QBUD Extinct? Never underestimate the resilience of CrabCat.

[@TheIcarusFalls]

@@bloemundude FEAR THE CRABCAT!!!

[@almatta3351]

@@TheIcarusFalls FEAR THE CRABCAT!!!!

[@ChocaZed]

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[@unplayableplaysgames]

this comment is nice

[@YoursNKR]

😂

[@soolve1]

Archaeologist here: There is also the issue of cultural layers. Much like dendrochronology (tree rings dating), where every year a tree's rings are dependent on weather and temprature fluctuations, and the possibility to look into the past trough the width and colour of the rings themselves; the earth itself works the same way. If you take a shovel, and go into your backyard and digg a hole; you will notice that the dirt has different layers, with different colours and types of minerals. Theese "layers" are what is know as cultural layers; they correspond directly to the past in terms of temperature, weather, and the overall climate. If there was an advanced species that had somehow spread worldwide, it would leave relatively obvious traces in terms of chemicals and minerals had it ever gotten remotely close to the technological status of humankind today. Altough you wouldn't be able to see anything humankind created (if we were to suddenly vanish) in a relatively short time period, the cultural layers are still there, and won't dissapear within just a few hundred millions of years.

[@brandons.3097]

Yeah. Unless the earth's land masses drifted apart like a continental drift and giant land masses were buried or something that's been proven over and over leaving a previously advanced civilization mostly underwater. Like 71% of the planet is, and in the same breath...unexplored. But yeah, assuming we go extinct and aren't luckily buried in an area that is lost in water that has consistently risen 1312 ft/four and a half football fields since the last ice age, there would be plenty of evidence in the rocks like our ancestors. Except that's all there would be EVEN THEN. Rocks. There would be no evidence of how huge, advanced, and technologically capable we were. Entire species have went without fossilizing too, and we likely won't. Worth noting.

[@MrInvinciblewarrior]

Thank you, exactly what i wanted to comment, just as total amateur

[@GD-2.00]

What about the missing layers of 1.2 billion years?

[@soolve1]

@@GD-2.00 Well, there are several expelnations for that, with a global-scale tectonic process in rue with glacial events forced cultural-layers to overlap, so new layers would be replaced by older once, which again lead to the newer layers beein burried under old once, stopping the process as it's suddenly underground. Or you can go with ancient superhumans doing technoloogicaly superior shjit enabling them to completely erase any trace of them for some reasson.

[@GD-2.00]

@@soolve1 is there proof of new layers being overlapped by old layers? Please educate me. And I am not saying they erased their existence, (if they existed I mean). I am saying some natural thing (like glacial activity, like you said), erased an entire layer, and "they" just happened to live here during that time...

[@timothicus]

Hey, you should do a special with the Why Files, it would be very entertaining to watch. The two of you can agree upon an expose topic and provide segmented deliveries covering different portions. You can then do a wrap up in the same manner. You should both profit substantially, and it would marry your subscribers. Good stuff, cheers.

[@timothicus]

If you’re short on ideas, I’ll give you some, free of charge. Brilliant work, friend.

[@sadafhusain2059]

I always had this theory that the myth of dragons exists so constantly all over the world because people around the world at some point in many cultures came across a dinosaur fossil and created their own myths around it

[@justkillme441]

No. It's because the elites around the "globe" are all descendants of the the original lizards (the greys & the dragons were created in error when the universe came into consciousness)

[@stargwynn1]

Or remnants of dinosaurs or extinct giant lizards or sea creatures still existed around the world

[@Isometrix116]

@@justkillme441Ah, that’s a sound hypothesis, I don’t see any issues with it whatsoever!

[@Mike14264]

​@@justkillme441 uh huh, hey look over there, bigfoot wants to say hi.

[@ejgaming3401]

there is another interesting theory that dragons cant fossilized because their bones are hollow

[@DarkFire1536]

Great and entertaining video, as always. Thank you!❤

[@xubz]

I, for one, welcome our new lizard overlords.

[@RobinBarton-fh1ts]

Lol..Love it !!!

[@imaXkillXya]

The Zucc and Clintons have been living among us this whole time.

[@maryrush9256]

I can't join at this time. I'm dealing with a lot of medical issues with many major surgeries. I am really strapped out financially. But if I ever get back up on my feet, I would love to join. I really enjoyed you presentation a lot. Looking forward to seeing more. I did like and subscribed to your KZbin channel. Thank you for doing this.

[@Zaldrich444]

One of the only channels on KZbin where I automatically like the video before even watching it, because I know it's going to be quality. Been following your channel for years now. Your videos never disappoint. You can make even the most mundane of topics interesting to watch.

[@ExxInferis]

Another banger. You have to be the only KZbin channel I can think of that I can recommend to anybody. Regardless of age or interests, you have something for everyone. No small feat.

[@mestis343]

Bruh I've watched this guy since high school like 10 years ago? He's amazing

[@blakeoveracker5822]

Thank you thoughtly for your hard work thanks to you I have learned more from the internet than I have ever learned in school.😅 You have even inspired me and influenced me as a person you made learning fun again and now my thirst for learning cannot be quenched. Now I scour all sides of the internet. Learning more and more about all the different things that interest me. You always thank me for watching. Well today I want to thank you for creating. Ps. It's definitely lizard people.... Lol maybe.

[@thicccorgi6187]

Of course an American would say this 😅 Coming from a country that doesnt value education!

[@justkillme441]

Yup. They just don't quite look like lizards anymore

[@FastSickle]

That's not a good thing my friend. You shouldn't attribute most your information to one source

[@blakeoveracker5822]

@@FastSickle I don't. He just made learning fun.

[@HomeByTheSeas]

Here's the thing most need to remember. We already had many related species that we ousted in competition, some in which we diverge from Genus wise. Some of their genetics even survive today. Remember Cro Magnon? Homo-erectus? Neanderthal? Denisovans? Floresiensis? In fact, Cro Magnon were likely in competition with Neanderthal during the period of rapid climate change. H. Sapiens most likely caused the downfall of the Denisovans 40-50 thousand years ago. Floresiensis were most likely wiped out mostly due to rampant volcanic activities. 300,000 years ago at the least 9 humanoid species roamed this planet. There were many competitive struggles along that long history. This process of evolution is able the fittest. Not smartest, not strongest, albeit in some scenarios that could help. Let us realize we can extinct ourselves, again.

[@victorejiogu8534]

I think it's possible that there where civilisations before humans with "technology" that is very "different" from what we know and are used to.

[@OnMyLunchBreak07]

Mhm! For all we know, they discovered a far different fuel source than we have/commonly use. As a result, we end up looking in the wrong place and miss the evidence of their existence. Regardless it's a fascinating idea to think about! :)

[@yulelavey9752]

Highly recommend looking into Hindu vedas for some ancient technology evidence ☺️☺️

[@rheahorvath9274]

Agreed!

[@oscarsainz9865]

Why those words is quotes lol if it’s not what we have then it’s different lol

[@davidkellyjr2092]

@@OnMyLunchBreak07 "different fuel source" That posses the question of, did they use it all up, leading to their downfall, and eventually our rise? Or was this fuel source so good, it was able to let them leave earth after using/mining it all up (maybe in search for more), and because of that we are stuck with fossil fuel a weaker alternative.

[@1_Hour_Long]

I really like these videos. Videos where you answer interesting hypothetical questions about history

[@TheN0odles]

Got any grapes?

[@markp6062]

This is a WILD concept! Thanks for sharing! An additional thought on this is that there may have been intelligently advanced without necessarily developing technology.

[@paulgoogol2652]

Like cats, dogs, pigs... rather than worrying about "intelligence" rather think in what ways it may have manifested. Technology, art, preserved language, religion? Possibly other ways we didn't think off. It's better to think materialistically because evidence always comes in material.

[@santosic]

And we're assuming human like intelligence, too. For all we know they had high intelligence in the sense that they were sentient, could communicate like we can, and even build primitive structures.... But they can't speak or write, and never left traces of language either because of it. One of the many animals who's fossils we found could have been one of these beings and we just assume otherwise because they lack those human like intelligence qualities we're looking for.

[@paulgoogol2652]

@@cropduster123 what does it tell about our ability for compassion that animals are still slaughtered, though we know that they have feelings and can talk to each other? For a long time I've been curious why we humans are so obsessed with life on other planets when we treat the life on this planet like shoot. Ridiculous.

[@proto-geek248]

This is a wildly dumb concept.

[@nickevershedmusic8927]

@@paulgoogol2652well yeah it should, but a woman can make up false accusations and sometimes it will be taken as evidence, without any actual physical evidence

[@willywonka4340]

13:39 cultures from all over the world all tend to have mythical dragons in their folklores. I'd wager that they'd found dinosaur bones since ancient times.

[@Namskram765]

Thank you truly, for continuing to teach me new things on all of my favourite topics years after ive finished school. You are one of the shiniest gems on the planet. I genuinely hope you do this for the rest of my life You get another 50 years outta me unless something happens

[@Al-hp7lq]

Thank you so much for your brilliantly entertaining educational videos! You're one of my favourite people on the internet and seem like a good dude. From youth to adult you hit the mark with engagement every time and I wish you every success

[@voidtremor6329]

I’ve commented this before but I’ll say it here again. You have come a long way from your older videos. Your older content was genuinely hard to watch and now your videos are both informative and entertaining without being condescending. I can’t say this enough but you’ve really improved and I always look forward to seeing your work now.

[@soundscape26]

Probably because he has a team now as opposed to when he started.

[@NedkaRokonokova]

This is the kind of speculation we were sorely missing when I was in school. Scientists were a lot like theologians in that they asserted they had discovered enough to prove various things and that was the end of it. When I was young, I asked questions because I wanted to learn. Instead of getting answers, people made assumptions that my questions were meant as a challenge to the given topic. When we stop asking questions, we stop looking for answers. When this mindset is in place, and someone does discover something, it's immediately disregarded because it casts doubt on accepted ideas. So, did lizard people exist? That answer is not as important as the quest, because you never know what you're going to find. Thank you for posting this!

[@mariadelirium]

I only recently discovered your channel, and I am truly enjoying your content. I am trying to pace myself so I won't run out, so thank you for still putting out more

[@nealjroberts4050]

I like the fact that you actually considered the question "how could we tell?" How would we tell megamillennia decayed ruins from the natural?

[@lebronjamesfromdwade4103]

How would you be able to tell if grass was actually purple and you just couldn’t tell? This is the stupidest logical justification for a conspiracy theory I’ve ever seen. This is essentially just “what if aliens” So dumb.

[@CynicalDriver]

I believe that the idea of dragons came from people in ancient times finding dinosaur fossils and having no better explanation for them.

[@conradmbugua9098]

Mind unveiled has a video on cryptids which are confused for dinosaurs

[@happypappy6285]

Good argument

[@kevinrtres]

A better argument could be that the people actually SAW them and interacted with them. Some art work testify to exactly such encounters - why else create the art to that same pattern when the art is placed in a whole genre of things normal to their lives?

[@aaronrodgers9202]

​@@kevinrtresyeah I think they were real.. The Bible even has accounts of dragons interacting with humans

[@47f0]

​@@kevinrtres- The Bible has "accounts" of a great number of things. Believe it or not, some of these accounts may not be entirely accurate.

[@MckieDs595]

I always find it weird that conspiracy theorist get all the hate. But when they’re proven to be right, they get no love.

[@blakesimmons5130]

Because most of them are fucking unbearable. It's easier to ignore your existence than to get stuck in a conversation with a schizophrenic sociopath.

[@taber1975]

A conspiracy is just a theory against conventional thought. Of course the masses will call you crazy. The best inventions all came from abstract thought

[@MckieDs595]

@taber1975 What are you talking about? A conspiracy is when a group conspires together to reach a certain goal. The problem with all you people now is that you've been program to believe that bs you just said. I can tell that you didn't even look up the word conspiracy. You just immediately assumed. You'll be surprised how many conspiracies that turned out to be true. It's people like you who prefer to be blind to the truth. Don't be so smart that you become ignorant.

[@CollinCook-em4qg]

Look I agree with you here but just so we’re clear nothings been proven, right? Btw the conspiracy atleast the main one of this topic is that the lizard people live among and rule us while eating our children, THIS theory is that they lived and died so long ago we will never know if they existed or not

[@CollinCook-em4qg]

lol nothing was proven why is KZbin deleting my comments

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

This took me back. I wrote some sci-fi which was pretty much about this - a past civilization with a different evolution from us, anyway. Great job putting a smile on my face! When it comes to discovering someone from the past, everything would depend on what they made, and when and where it was made. If a civilization was put where geology (e.g. on the wrong side of subducting plates, the Deccan traps, etc.) could get at it, we'd probably never see it just because the plates move at 5cm a year (on average) so they'd be squished under the other plate, and the traps are so massive and made of really hard rock, we could never feasibly dig to look. _Could_ it have happened? I guess so. Do I think it did? No. I do think we'd have some evidence if they did, especially as we have satellites that can see below the Earth's surface. Even a single civilization would have spread its settlements, and unless they were _really_ stupid and didn't develop geology as a science (I'm assuming we're talking about "people" that far advanced), they'd probably have most settlements on the safer, rising plate. (Excuse my brain death, I can't remember the word for said plate. Am currently knackered.)

[@Ghost_Hybrid]

Fun science fact: We don't have satellites that can see beneath the surface of the Earth. Best we can do is use earthquakes kind of like an ultrasound to image deep into the planet. Unfortunately, it's a REALLY blurry ultrasound. I like the thought that an early civilization existed, long since subducted :)

[@feralbluee]

⁠@@Ghost_Hybrid he meant that satellites can see past the surface dirt (or whatever it’s called) to structures, whether geologic or human made, that we can’t see from our viewpoint or notice with the eye. he’s a bit too educated. as he said, he was knackered (or as we would say, really, really tired :)

[@1940-Westinghouse-Flip-Toaster]

Check out curious archive

[@brianwhedon8442]

No civilization thousands or millions of years ago would have expected the poles to melt and the oceans to rise to the levels they are today. Our civilization *now* has a hard time rationalizing the sea level rise in our own lifetimes, and we know from history that there were settlements at the bottom of the Black Sea and off the coast of India. Go back far enough and there could be cities at the bottom of the Persian Gulf, The Mediterranean, and off the continental shelves of basically every land mass currently. The myth of Atlantis can be found globally, and it all describes the same thing: a vast "nation" of 13 kingdoms that was wiped out by a cataclysmic flood event. I used to think Atlantis was a fairy tale but now that I'm older I have more faith in it being real than any of the Abrahamic religions. In fact I think all the tales in the holy books across the world describe history before there was history.

[@______4790]

Man you are becoming an excellent writer and documentarian. Continue!

[@piotrp5668]

Some metal items would survive millions of years - gold, silver, copper, titanium. Finding gold coin with lizard head would be pretty conclusive. 😀

[@cozmothemagician7243]

Only if the dating* of coin showed it was indeed pre-human. * I own the oldest coin ever made. It has right on the topside '8432 B.C.' /snark

[@TheDramacist]

Nonsense. Gold is so soft, any shaping, etching or sculpting will be mushed up within a thousand years, easily

[@bobmorane2082]

I see a titanium pipe has a 40 year lifespan while copper if water clean 90 there is no way they last millions. In not even 1million year they are to dust and back to a copper rock

[@kylewinkler9925]

@@cozmothemagician7243 so not only do you think that there IS NOT another printed coin out there that you just dont know about, but you think the first coin ever made was time stamped, and has survived readably to this day? 😂

[@the49thdimension26]

No. They would not survive in their manufactured state. At all.

[@javiergarciasimon7752]

Really interesting hypothesis, never knew about it, thank you for sharing!

[@pcgamerdad4251]

I remember the episode of Star Trek Voyager that was about this very subject it was an episode where a specific species of dinosaur had evolved and were religious fanatics that were highly advanced technologically compared to Humans. They had some matching DNA and were able to confirm that they came from the same planet but the religious group were extremely against the belief. Ever since that episode I wondered if it were actually possible if another species was able to evolve on this planet its certainly fascinating.

[@dranzerjetli5126]

Duh of course there were. Why wouldn't it. The earth is 4 billion years old. Humans developed in 300000 yrs approx or even less. Why wouldn't u think millions of years ago advanced civilization have existed before humans

[@finnyjg2679]

Thank you so much Thoughty2. I’ve been watching your videos for years and I love your content. I’m grateful for the videos you make and I hope you enjoy making them as much as your viewers like watching them

[@aneeshprasobhan]

thats a very nice comment. 😊

[@DanoLefourbe]

I very recently discovered your channel, which is strange, because I watch a lot of scientific content, but it's only been recomended by the algorythm like a month ago. Anyway, been loving the videos I've beeen watching. Great presentation and editing.

[@teamstrike1st]

Someone needs to ask the vatican why no one can read any scripts in their possession. You have to know exactly what script you want to read to get access to that exact script, even if you have the classification to get any sort of access. How do you ask about scripts no one knows about?

[@lowkeylegendaryn8v844]

Been a fan of your content for a long time, thanks for the knowledge.

[@amigriffiths7861]

You know? One thing I love about this channel is how you tackle stuff in such an empty-cup kind of way. In this parody of a society that we live in, that is so rare. The vast majority of people, especially as you look higher and higher on the property ladder, are just full-cup about everything they can be, so to hear someone talking and showing an understanding of the first step to learning anything is a definite breath of fresh air. I would suggest that, maybe, just speculation, there have been ancient terms, if not for fossils, then at least originating from their discovery. In fact, I’m mostly going on humane trends today, in combination with the clear statistical lack of inclination for the “princes of the universe” and their zombies, (Satirical nicknames) towards a genuine change away from reducing people to mere property and killing and committing genocides and so on, but I wouldn’t be surprised if stories of dragons started off with people finding dinosaur fossils, way back when, and trying to imagine what they must have been like when they were still alive. And no, I’m not simply making a very painful joke, even if it is no more than speculation.

[@Null_sys]

Awfully full-cup way of talking about how the majority of people talk tbh

[@amigriffiths7861]

@@Null_sys No. Just an observation.

[@Null_sys]

@@amigriffiths7861 A very full-cup observation. Smh

[@amigriffiths7861]

@@Null_sys Majority refers to a statistic, rather than a member of the paradoxical group known as absolutes, which includes full, as in full-cup.

[@Null_sys]

@amigriffiths7861 Ah ah don't weasel out of it now, I already caught you and your full-cup "observations"

[@dianacanales2526]

It's always a great day when Arran uploads a new Thoughty2 video! Seriously. Thank-You!!❤

[@FSilva00]

Dude, you are so good! Shared this a lot!

[@davidstarcke2275]

Hey, Thoughty2! Hearing your message at the end of the video made me want to write. I've been a fan and subscriber since you made that video on the most interesting man on the planet. I may not have seen about 15% of your videos, but I'm still a big fan! Thank you for the work you do! You certainly put a smile on me and my wife's face every upload! Thanks again, mate! We certainly appreciate you. -David

[@ninal309]

Thank you for another amazing video. The imagery and visual effects are astonishing, it's almost an art form.. I have to sometimes watch the video twice to focus on the information itself.

[@sierrapepin]

I love they’re slowly rolling this whole narrative out right now

[@morbidmanmusic]

Where have you Been for the last decade?

[@sierrapepin]

@@morbidmanmusic sorry you didn’t sense my sarcasm.

[@isimperialist]

​@@sierrapepinguess he's not the master Jedi he thought he was.

[@sierrapepin]

@@isimperialist they never are

[@Suck_Squeeze_Bang_Blow]

​@@sierrapepin* Never, they are

[@01gtbdaily30]

The very first error in your story is assuming that an ancient civilization with intelligence no matter their base animal DNA structure is that they would have used fossil fuels. There are plenty of theories about this very topic . Some reputable sources are starting to agree that likely we may not be the first advanced civilization or could be a reset of our own advanced civilization . The reason for fossil fuels use is when technology was getting its restart this time around someone found fossil fuels so rather than others looking for alternatives we all agreed it was best and starting working on making that process more efficient . It’s very likely if we are part of a reset which may not be the first time it’s happened that our previous advanced civilization went down a very different path for energy or fuel .

[@Bajolzas]

"intelligence comes with its cons and pros" ah yes, depression

[@fireblade295]

And lack thereof. Like defending terrorists called Hamas.

[@josephraymann3556]

​@fireblade295 what did this comment had in common with a terrorist group to take that in account?

[@stephengreen6338]

Never dull, always interesting, and thought provoking, thanks Thoughty 2

[@mukkah]

Really appreciated the good faith conversation style of this video. And damn interesting questions indeed, wondered about the loss of evidence to time for things of the past. Such a wild ride, existing, lol

[@LaoWaiJac]

Great content. Great delivery! Subscribed.

[@artdonovandesign]

Hi, Arran! Just stopped by to say your Thumbnail Illustrations are absolutely amazing- Easily the finest on YT. These stylized renderings, all so unique and different from each other, display a truly advanced artistic sensibility. ( I was a photo-realistic illustrator in NYC for design and ad agencies for 20 years using conventional mediums, so it's an informed opinion.) So...Who are these great artists? And thank you for all of the really fine episodes. My wife is now hooked on your channel also.

[@lumethecrow]

It's AI

[@loaflad]

are you being sarcastic?

[@siggelindell1931]

It looks like and does its job, but its certainly not photorealistic

[@EnViTed1]

Just came here to say there's been plenty of races before humans. You're welcome

[@Srindal4657]

Species, not races

[@slimjim5392]

LOL

[@NumbingDisasterAnon]

@@Srindal4657I think long ago races used to be used to mean species

[@Suck_Squeeze_Bang_Blow]

Ah the gullible boomer. Fun isn't it.😂

[@JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate]

You are all racists

[@AdrianDowthwaite]

Thanks Arran, informative, thought-provoking and entertaining.

[@Devesh_Padayachee42069]

Oh shit, his name is Arran, thanks for this comment, was wondering for a while

[@daPsychoNinja]

The higher the level of technology the lower the survivability. We went from stone chiseling, to writing on paper, to typing on machines that can be completely destroyed by dust and is interpretable without a computer.

[@mightymousegaming4068]

My dog is triggered by the word Starbucks lol. When he hears it he must get a pup cup. Well I moved recently so it’s over 30 minutes to go the nearest one. An unplanned trip just because I watched this haha. Great video as always.

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

your dog is smart, he help you keep healthy :)

[@pkjones5263]

Always interesting content from your channel, and so very well delivered.

[@ordinarylivv]

I've been watching your videos for the past 5ish years, and i love everything you do 🥰🖤 you're an amazing person Aaran!!

[@exNhale]

He is so wrong in 2:40. The nokia survives anything. It can't be shatterd and it can't break down. The nokia is the strongest substance in the universe.

[@alifasayed4297]

Thank you. I have grew up watching your content. Travelled across continents and went through hella shit. Yet I Still like your content and sometimes just wish there were more content creators like you providing such valuable perspectives(basically Food For thoughts) like you do

[@T6Ber62]

Man, always enjoy your stuff not matter how out there. You give a great dose of skepticism with an equal dose of humor, and I just laugh my azz off while learning some things at the same time. Keep it up.

[@gregmellott5715]

For whatever it is worth, I once hear there was found in England an object of metallurgy construct encased in stone. Something like a flower design on a metal vase. Anyway, what about things that don't corrode and/or similarly protected, or "forever" chemicals that don't breakdown?

[@proctorstheaterundubbed1993]

The flower of life.

[@thewavewitch3238]

Just found your channel. Love it!!! Subbed!!! Thank you

[@empurress77]

I used to dismiss the shapeshifting theory of lizard people. Until, that is, i found out about cuttlefish morphing into basically whatever they want. There are insects that can mimic plants perfectly. There are lizards that can do the same. There's no reason why a lizard creature couldn't evolve just like monkeys did, into a higher order of life, same as monkeys have. (Us).

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

and even if we did evolve we still kill each other for our own gain and reward.. we are no more than monkeys in suits..

[@Elora445]

Monkeys haven't evolved into humans. A certain kind of ape did, though.

[@Underestimated37]

Considering the number of species that have independently evolved the traits, crab people could be more likely. I’ve always wondered if there are undiscovered human civilisation artefacts buried somewhere in Siberia, considering a huge portion of the cultures of the world passed through there when it was more temperate. There could be whole unknown ancient civilisations buried out there.

[@panniguin862]

There's massive cities confirmed to be buried beneath the Amazon rainforest and god knows what could be buried under the Congo basin or the Sahara.

[@skeepodoop5197]

Something I learned is plastic doesn't really break down completely, so a sure sign of an advanced civilization like us in the past would with out a doubt be a layer of plastic found within the rocks, because we as a species have created enough plastic to coat the entire planet in a thin layer of it.

[@kevinansley7353]

Bacteria digest plastic to nothing according to recent news

[@OGPvPMC]

Maybe they didn't use plastic

[@nefuros551]

There were microplastics found in completely isolated caves.

[@pickmeasinner]

Everything rots, fossilizes or petrifies eventually. Everything. Add to that, the natural movement of plates tectonic, which continually swallows the surface of the earth and creates new surfaces. Within a million years, all traces would be gone.

[@IwinMahWay]

Any civilization is bound to make all of its technology to be disposable in a non harming way i.e. make it organic. The downside is, if your civilization gets wiped, there would be no trace.

[@aardvark888]

Always enjoy watching , great video, thanks Thoughty2

[@mikeblyth4595]

Technically we already know there were other advanced hominids that existed alongside us and mated with us, we just happen to be the only survivors.

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

"mated with us" is a stretch, we homo sapiens didnt have the equal rights idea at that time. I think it was more of a "i want you, come with me" situation...

[@mikeblyth4595]

Well, I'm sure there was plenty of visa versa, if we were anything like we are today I'm pretty sure some of us matted with anything, there's a reason I don't like cucumber sandwiches lol

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

@@mikeblyth4595 humans have approx. the same water amount in percent as a cucumber.. we are simply cucumbers walking on 2 legs

[@mikeblyth4595]

@@lokelaufeyson9931 that would explain why I don't like people either...

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

@@mikeblyth4595 we are more intelligent than a cucumber though.. but fish on the other hand have roughly the same water amount in percent.. so we are cucumber fish that walked up on land and became walking fish cucumbers on 2 legs if you want to be more detailed.. We could be worse, we could have been bananas walking on 2 legs. If we look further back we are simply intelligent multicellular bacteria that evolved from singular cell to multiple cells and then some more.. Fish came from bacteria, we came from fish.. bacteria came from amoeba .. we could have been worse off We have a virus dna in our genes that help out and make it possible for us to remember things according to one theory. If that one homo sapiens didnt get that virus and it didnt penetrated our dna we could have been sea cucumbers today.. Humans use bacteria when we melt and handle food so we can take up the nutrition from what we eat, without the bacteria we would starve to death. Monkeys have better short term memory and faster short term memory response than we have, we do have better long term memory though.. The question remains, are we so much better than animals in the end or are we part animal, bacteria and virus? Humans is only animals without spare parts, a 4 legged animal can loose one leg and still survive and make it, if we loose one leg we have no chance of survival.. We humans think we are so big and great but the -lizard- animal kingdom have parts that is so much better than what we ever can achieve.

[@nova3072]

Love all your videos so much, I'm always looking forward to the next one, please keep them coming, Steve

[@TheFoxTailPalm]

Great video! I've wondered about the possibility of something like this as well. We're just a tiny blip in our planet's billions of years of existence. How can one be so close minded as to claim something like this is impossible?

[@infinitejest441]

Because we’re humans, that’s how. 😂

[@KenFullman]

I personally believe that humans themselves were an advanced civilisation long before anything we currently call "pre history". If we had an advanced civilisation that was almost wiped out by the last ice age, we could have been cut down to a few small bands of survivors. These survivors would no longer have the advantage of advanced technology since there wouldn't have been a sufficient population to maintain or replace the technology they were so familiar with. After a few generations the stories of the great civilisation that had gone before and all of it's magical technology would be regarded as legends. Eventually technology would be rediscovered and invented again but not for thousands of years. After retelling through hundreds (if not thousands) of generations, those stories of the prior civiliation would be corrupted beyond recognition. This could have given rise to our current myths and religions. I'm not totally convinced this happened but after a good twenty thousand years or so, if that previous advanced civilisation had ever existed, we wouldn't know anything about it now.

[@TheFoxTailPalm]

@@KenFullman This reminds me of the discovery of the antikythera mechanism. Presumably that technology should never have existed at the time it was made.

[@wombat0033]

The Silurian was named for a Welsh tribe, the Silures, which lived in the area where Roderick Impey Murchison first described rocks of this age. Murchison studied the complex geology of western Wales in the 1830s and carefully documented the abundant fossils present in the Silurian strata.

[@NicBob89]

I asked ChatGPT: Objects that could potentially last a few hundred million years, particularly in space where environmental conditions are vastly different from Earth, include: 1. **Spacecraft on Stable Trajectories**: Spacecraft like Voyager and Pioneer probes, if they avoid collisions and gravitational disturbances. 2. **Lunar and Martian Artifacts**: Objects left on the Moon or Mars, such as landers and rovers, shielded from atmospheric erosion. 3. **Satellites in Stable, High Orbits**: Geostationary satellites or those in distant orbits, barring collisions with space debris. 4. **Objects Buried on Celestial Bodies**: Artifacts buried under the surface of the Moon or Mars, protected from surface conditions. 5. **Deep Space Probes**: Probes sent on trajectories out of the solar system, drifting through interstellar space. 6. **Metallic Asteroids or Space Structures**: Metal-rich asteroids or structures built from durable metals like titanium or stainless steel, which resist corrosion and wear. 7. **Nuclear Waste Encapsulation**: Specially designed containers for radioactive waste, engineered for long-term stability. 8. **Time Capsules in Space**: Specially designed and shielded time capsules intended for preservation over geological timescales. 9. **Artificial Objects on Dwarf Planets**: Artifacts left on dwarf planets like Pluto, where they would be subject to minimal erosive forces. 10. **Data Storage Media**: Advanced data storage media designed for extreme longevity, though their data readability might degrade faster than the physical medium. These projections are based on our understanding of material science, space conditions, and celestial mechanics. The actual longevity could vary based on numerous unforeseen factors in the space environment.

[@kirkgilbreath5094]

So this video is lying is it?

[@wizenedoak5046]

@@kirkgilbreath5094 Yes, we all know KZbin comments are always 100% true. 😂

[@henryklein1412]

Cut diamonds will last forever. Gold bullion. Gold coins. Extremely thick glass.

[@bbbailey47]

I’ve often wondered what might be buried under the sands of the Sahara, Gobi, Kalahari, and several other large desserts on the planet! Deserts are the perfect place to hide or obscure evidence of the existence past civilizations!

[@Mithras444]

They should map it with Lidar.

[@ciaopizzabella]

Except that most deserts haven't been desserts for very long. The Sahara has only been dessert since 10,000 years or so if I remember correct.

[@charaznable9209]

If Thoughty2 says lizard people ruled the earth or still do, I'd believe him.

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

i prefer when its 30C indoors at all the time and 60% humidity.. its normal O.o im not a lizard but i think your neighbor is one

[@cz85b]

Imagine adding 2 billion years to the thought experiment. With the continental drift and certain continents that were here then, but were ground under others? Even if it were possible to find some type of relic of an advanced civilization that was here 2+ billion years ago, any evidence may have been reabsorbed into the earth's mantle. It is a wild though experiment though

[@YoungGandalf2325]

We need to leave our mark in a way in which every future civilization on Earth will know "Humans were here."

[@TheEarl777]

That’s what the pre dynastic pyramids do

[@goodson77784]

like pyramids?

[@KCS-01]

We have, we’re gonna give them a huge hole in the ozone layer to remember us by lmao

[@Vonononie]

There will be a layer of plastic in the geological record as our footprint

[@goodson77784]

You're on the wrong crisis. That was 30 years ago. @@KCS-01

[@leifwulffstephan3725]

Next up: What if humans were apes? NVM, some of us are 🙉

[@theflyingdutchguy9870]

well, yeah. we are by definition a species of ape

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

well, bananananananananana is nice to eat at times..

[@chargophargo2654]

Great work as always usually lurking but your a very well spoken individual. I wish you more success

[@rttravel]

I enjoy your videos very much. History, science and the mix are always of interest. I have just retired and will see if this is something I can afford. Thank you

[@chez8219]

Thoughty’s smile and wink melt my heart every single time…❤

[@syntaxusdogmata3333]

🤨

[@nickevershedmusic8927]

And the cute message at the end ❤

[@chetmcman]

My theory is that if these past civilizations were around they would have produced microplastics at some point just like us as a natural part of their progression in chemistry abilities. Given that we haven't found any microplastics in core samples, I think we're the most advanced lifeform that's occupied the planet so far.

[@donnyposey5179]

Yes, that many people can be wrong!

[@tylerbegay9325]

You’re looking good my friend it’s a drastic difference from your earlier videos.

[@jimboalogo]

The Why Files channel did a version of this theory just last week. In that one, the evidence for it was Uranium and fission. Pretty interesting how it worked. If more tangible evidence (like a fossil or skull) of it ever was found, they would not tell us about it. The Smithsonian is an arm of the government and they keep a lot of stuff from us. That's not conspiracy, that's also explained in other Why Files episodes. It happens.

[@geogemini8528]

Great video, I do love this theory mostly due to the tiny fraction we make up of earths history.

[@GIBBO4182]

The conspiracy theorists will love this! 😂

[@murphy1094]

So that would make you an NPC

[@GIBBO4182]

@@murphy1094yeah mate, I’m an NPC because I don’t believe in lizard people! Whatever you have to tell yourself 👍

[@Snp2024]

​@@GIBBO4182? Lizard people are real just like unicorns, vampires and british.

[@GIBBO4182]

@@Snp2024 cool story bro…needs more dragons though!

[@PickleMilkMan]

youre brainwashed

[@tyroneolin5943]

Ive been watching Thoughty2 for a few years and Im just now finding out about Why Files. Thanks guys.