There's a Reason You're Not Rich - News From Heaven

[@ironempath7261]

Thank you for devoting your time and lives to promoting Swedenborg's books, now "teachings." There are things that I have learned about through your program that have never left me, my thinking forever altered by these themes. Thank you for breaking it down as you do, rationally and with no attempt at indoctrination. This is so valuable for us all. I encourage everyone who is financially able to contribute to the continuation of "Off the Left Eye."

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks so much for this affirmation of our work, Aim! We'd love to know one or two themes that have altered your thinking, if you'd care to share. :) And thanks for your financial support as well! So glad to have you with us!

[@margaretkwapich5245]

I love how Curtis gets excited explaining to us Swedenborg ‘s view on life and it makes so much sense thank You I’m watching this channel every day really enjoy it ❤️

[@offTheLeftEye]

So heartwarming to hear that, Margaret! Glad you're here!

[@joyborazjani2355]

Hi @Margaret Kwapich! I share your enthusiasm! Feel free to join the OTLE Chat Cafe on FB! Asher Raymond created it so that we would have a place to talk about these ideas and connect with like-minded folks!

[@lizzyjesus.9738]

It's true Margaret

[@fancynancylucille]

@@joyborazjani2355 Sounds fun!

[@maxchristianesteffan2321]

Yes, very reminiscent of and expanding on Matthew 6:33 Good reminder of this essential precept. Thank you.

[@offTheLeftEye]

You're welcome, Max. Thanks for making this connection for us.

[@carriesouthard3294]

thank you so much for your Service and message.... Namaste 💚

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thank you for being here to receive it, Carrie!

[@RobertLRead]

BTW, Curtis, I love your style---you don't need quite so much self-deprecation, but it IS a nice antidote to arrogance---it makes me feel more comfortable with your thought process. I really enjoy what you are doing, and watch most of your videos here. Can't see I'm strong on "faith", but I'm very strong on trying to understand the Swedenborgian ideas you are presenting.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks for being here, Robert, and for the feedback. Hope you are finding some of the ideas helpful or useful!

[@fancynancylucille]

Yeah, I love that anti-arrogant thing. So tired of self-assured people with not that much to say.

[@sfilkins2009]

you wouldn't believe what comes up when you put the title of this video in KZbin search! lol So glad to know the actual truth of the matter here in Divine Providence. Thanks much!

[@offTheLeftEye]

Oh my -- sounds intriguing, or maybe not! Glad you found what you were looking for!

[@julianbristow4793]

I’m looking forward to this episode. I’m not rich, far from it, but a lot of people are. They’re all around me. And as the old saying goes, money buys power. Well, I don’t want either one. I have no love of money. I’m satisfied with what the Lord provided. 👍🏻💕😃😃

[@offTheLeftEye]

What a heavenly attitude, Julian.

[@joshuab2437]

same here!

[@julianbristow4793]

offTheLeftEye Thanks, once we all reach a oneness with the Lord, we have no more worries, especially about money. I see what Swedenborg is saying in Divine Providence 250, and what Curtis is explaining about rank and wealth. If we can manage to keep our basic needs met, that is all we really need in our lives and anything else wouldn’t be needed required here in the physical world. ❤️❤️💕👍🏻😃

[@angelgirldebbiejo]

Being content ìs key....love and forgiveness and gratitude.

[@fancynancylucille]

@@julianbristow4793 Every time I get nervous about money problems, I always remember that trust in the Lord has gotten me by thus far. If it doesn't, He must think I have some painful lessons to learn.

[@AnnieHugie]

“It does seem as if the more one gets the more one wants…” “It's not half so sensible to leave legacies when one dies as it is to use the money wisely while alive, and enjoy making one's fellow creatures happy with it.” “For love is the only thing that we can carry with us when we go, and it makes the end so easy.” ― Louisa May Alcott, Little Women

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks for sharing that Louisa quote, Annie. Are all these quotes from Little Women?

[@AnnieHugie]

@@offTheLeftEye Yes, all the quotes are from "Little Women" :)

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@AnnieHugie Awesome. They are great! Thank you for sharing them!

[@kimshine8506]

Another great episode OTLE! Feeling very grateful my mom taught me to tithe 10% back to God right away with my very first job. I can't get attached to what's not really mine! Everything comes from the Lord including my paycheck! Giving 10% back immediately reminds me of this truth and supports Gods message of love reaching more people. A win, win 😊. It was hard to give back 33 cents of my $3.25 an hour wage when I started working way back in the early 80s but commitment to this practice has given me immense peace in knowing God will always provide and not so coincidentally I've always had what I've needed right on time!

[@offTheLeftEye]

What a beautiful testimony, Kim! Thanks for sharing your experience, and nice to hear from you again!

[@jhod555]

This is so fun to me...a spiritual argument for the built in human trait of Hedonic Adaptation (the great new thing quickly becomes the new normal). I will say, though, that I am willing to adapt to a most more comfortable place. Maslow's Hierarchy is the real deal for sure. My desire for prosperity is, TRULY and most sincerely, a desire for the deep pleasure of being able to solve problems for others and the freedom to pursue spiritual things, rather than struggle with the day to day which is such a terrible grind for so many.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks for sharing here, Jhone. May we all use our gifts in a way that serves the Lord and his children!

[@fancynancylucille]

That is so cool. I would like to be able to have wealth and help people. I don't know if I would. My question is how would you feel if you had to lose it all? I met a lovely woman who spent her life helping poor people buy houses, in a sort of financial education program. She was diagnosed with cancer and was sent to us because she was suicidal. Everyone thought she was suicidal because she didn't want to suffer or die. "You don't understand", she said. "I want to commit suicide because cancer treatment is going to cost me my house that I worked so hard for. It's not fair.".....Of course, according to your "Hedonic Adaptation", she probably would adjust to losing her house in time and be just as happy or unhappy as she was when she had it.

[@jhod555]

@@fancynancylucille Hedonic adaptation is about adapting to good things, rather than bad. the astonishing human resilience most have is about adapting to loss. So who knows? Not all recover well from major loss. Of course, I'm not the person to ask. I would happily die today. ...my perspective is skewed. I don't like it here, and mostly I stay to prevent pain for others.

[@maryvalentine4924]

Such a wonderful cautionary tale! Thank you Curtis! I felt you really really wanted us to get it - don’t go for the low hanging fruit here in the material and so very temporary world. Message received. Holds no charm for me. I am focusing on Our Father who loves all of us, and is gentle, meek and lowly of heart, and who wants us to learn from Him, take up his yoke and join in a partnership with Him. He wants us to help Him implement His Plan to make all of us happy forever and ever. What a wonderful Divine Parent! How happy that proposition makes me! How I hope to be worthy of helping with this work. How I try and practice being led to this work now. So happy to be warned off the wrong path by you Curtis and all of you at OTLE!! ❤️

[@offTheLeftEye]

Such beautiful thoughts, Mary. We so appreciate you being part of our community!

[@panholo7897]

This video reminded me of a proverb that reinforces what you're saying. ".Second, give me neither poverty nor riches! Give me just enough to satisfy my needs. Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you and say, 'Who is the LORD?' Or I may become poor and steal, and so dishonor the name of my God." ~Proverbs 30:8-9

[@offTheLeftEye]

Very relevant quote! Thanks so much for sharing it!

[@fancynancylucille]

Yeah, and this proverb can help us remember that people do steal when they are in need, and that there are those who cause people to be poor, and so are responsible for those people's thievery, and should do the jail time instead of the thieves.

[@VictoriaGates]

Thanks for another great episode! Appreciate the community chat support Chris! Love to all.

[@offTheLeftEye]

It was so nice chatting with you, Victoria. We have an awesome community!

[@meenaisaac1014]

I completely agree. Thank you Curtis. I am currently dealing with these issues. Being reminded of this felt so needed and life giving. I gave up eminence because it was so empty of contribution. Now I am dealing with the idea of living without it but with the freedom to contribute meaningfully. I can't describe how I felt when I heard you talk about it. I believe people who make a home in the hearts of men don't need houses of bricks and mortar. Thank you again.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Meena, thanks for reaching out to let us know how this episode struck you. Blessings as you continue to walk this path!

[@shannadawn1698]

I'm not big on organized/marketable forms of religion/Christianity, but there are a few things from my younger days in the conventional church atmosphere that have really stuck with me. The phrase that I apply to this topic, from those days, is "God wants you blessed so that you can be a blessing." If I'm not in a position to be a blessing to others, it's for the sake of my own soul that I stay in more humble positions. I comfort myself from lamenting about why "the wicked prosper" by turning my thoughts to more eternal achievements. "He who dies with the most toys still dies." Heh :)

[@offTheLeftEye]

Interesting thoughts, Shanna -- and ones that ring true. Thanks for being part of our conversation here.

[@paulahall9291]

NOT BEING RICH HAS GROUNDED ME...IT MAKES ME THANKFUL GRATEFUL...AND HUMBLE WITH WHAT THE GOOD LORD HAS GIVEN ME!!!! HE KNOWS WHY HE HASNT MADE ME RICH...MAYBE I WOULD SELF DESTRUCT IF I WAS!!!! SO EACH DAY,I CONTINUE TO TRY TO FULFILL MY SOUL PURPOSE,AND JUST BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT I HAVE.

[@offTheLeftEye]

That's a beautiful stance, Paula, and must really be helpful in bringing you peace of mind. Thanks for sharing with us.

[@caballitoglorious8418]

Very interesting the spiritual concept of wealth. Just as Divine Providence delivers her energy over all human beings without discrimination. Also each individual uses it according to his creed and thoughts. It is clear that the illusion of economic, political, social and even religious power is very tempting but also fatal to our hearts. When our hearts only focus on those things like the accumulation of money, power and social status (associated with each other) we slowly drift away from Divine Love and Divine Wisdom. Although all wealth is real and can be spent on more matter, it is only physical, instead what we feel within us, how we use divine light is what we really take to other spiritual dimensions. The message here is to be careful how we use the earthly world, not to get attached to material opportunities and the pleasure of an ego. But to the abundance that Divine Providence offers and the opportunity to cultivate the virtue of Charity for the benefit of the whole.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Well said, Caballito Glorious! Thank you for sharing your beautiful insights with us! Amen!

[@jeffwood6863]

Another great episode of information and well explained. Thank you again.

[@offTheLeftEye]

You're most welcome! Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@thomaswesterman6950]

Curtis you and your crew do a great job..always look forward to your new episodes,-keep growing keep going,!

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks so much for this encouragement, Thomas! We will!

[@edskeeter1]

Word up. (pun intended) I needed to hear this today, as it was one of those frustrating, patience-testing days where things didn't quite go as expected. Well done oTLE

[@offTheLeftEye]

Glad it was a serendipitous message for you, edheeter! Providence sometimes works these things out so perfectly!

[@kens6168]

Another excellent show! Coming from a poor background, I thought that wealth would be insurance from ever having to endure those feelings again. I can not tell you the devastation I caused it my life, including losing the love of my life. (After 40 years I still suffer from messing that up.) God rewards me that if I suffer much, I learn much, whether I wanted to or not. I personally know very wealthy people.They are not bad people, but I know the husband is not happy and now they are old and their bodies are now falling apart. I often think of the “eye of the needle” thing relevant to them. Thank God I never got rich. I have the luxury of seeing what my life would have been like. All I can do is pray for them daily and help them any way I can and lead my life the best I know how, thanks a lot to you guys. May God bless!

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks for sharing these reflections, Ken. We all have a lot to learn from our own life stories, don't we?

[@terraray7487]

I like it when I can spot my own self love, too, and when I can see these things in myself. Of course it is there! Like you said, it is so great to have a place to start, and an ideal to grow toward, and a plan. I do like a plan. :) Thanks, OTLE. Much love.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Plans are so helpful, aren't they Terra? :) . Thanks for joining in the conversation here with us!

[@joyborazjani2355]

Yes! This ministry makes the truths understandable and applicable to our lives!

[@Syncs_DNB]

Not being rich (in the sense of having loads of money) is the best thing that ever happened to me. The more I look at myself, the more I realize how much I would have swerved from where am I now. I would have traded internal growth and happiness for external junk. I still want to have lots of money one day, but only when I'm ready to spend it selflessly, for the greater good.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Well that's a highly evolved statement to make, Dayman! Internal growth and happiness will take you a lot farther and last a lot longer than the other stuff, as I see it. Blessings to you as you head towards being able to help others more and more.

[@greenhornet5186]

"If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to.” ― Dorothy Parker

[@offTheLeftEye]

Ha ha that's perfectly said. Love that Dorothy Parker, thanks Green Hornet!

[@understandyourmind]

I know many people who have loads of money and they helping others, helping homeless people, and they also live well, praising God. I see no problem with money at all. The problem is only if that money are in the wrong hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it and has an addictive personality.

[@fancynancylucille]

@@understandyourmind Right. I have known many really good people who had money. The best people I've met, actually. I am just so used to not having any.

[@JohnSmith-zw6tr]

You must not live in the same places I’ve lived. I’ve worked for many wealthy people over the years and been around many powerful people when I worked in Government. THE MAJORITY of rich and powerful are self centered people. With few exceptions, to become rich; you must first love money. We all know that scripture, “the love of money is the root of all evil.” The LOVE OF MONEY being the key phrase. Everyone can think of exceptions, but I’ve worked with many wealthy political donors on campaigns, fund raisers and a career in government and the military. It’s been RARE to see these EXCEPTIONS. Just my experience. Dorothy got it right.

[@thisisheaven2488]

Serious wisdom here.

[@offTheLeftEye]

I'm so glad this information resonates with you! Thank you for watching and responding!

[@elle2461]

My experience was once I had achieved success and wealth I was blinded in thought to God. Looking back evil was in full control and God didn't enter my thought. It was the strangest experience. Even when i reached out nothing about God that was true came to me. I reached for help and guidance and nothing. Even internet search would not show up correctly. It wasn't until I lost it all and spent years studying the Bible, that understanding came. It was so surreal. While in the time of needing help only crap only evil came into my circle. I wish I could describe it better... It felt as I was blinded. As the bible says... Scales over the eyes... And for me, mind

[@offTheLeftEye]

Elle, I can relate to this! When attention and achievement were alive in my life in my early 20s, I had no need for spiritual food. Pleasure by itself nourished me. But when pleasure mutated into addiction, I found myself in dire need of divine power. And I'm so grateful, in retrospect, for the journey out of that place, painful as it was. - Kendall

[@paulsimmons9512]

If you want to feel good about yourself, do things for others. Then you have , in the eyes of others, a high rank. This can seem selfish but it is a way of loving self as you obtain happiness because of the good you do. Eventually, you will lose the need to have worldly rank as your self image is at a real high. Plus, you have found a treasure trove of oppertunity to feel even better. This is what I get from what you say. I suggest one ask God to give us this charity to start out on this so beneficial path and to stay in that path. There will be opposition ,but, charity is a gift from God from his Spirit and God will bring us through if we desire help from him. God can fill us with love. Have faith in that.

[@offTheLeftEye]

I think you're right, Paul, that it is key to ASK God to give us love and charity in our hearts! And yes, Swedenborg is clear that usefulness to others is what brings true happiness. Thanks for adding to the conversation here!

[@melsinTN]

Btw, I should probably add this for perspective. I am a single parent due to losing my partner to cancer 9 yrs ago. I do not make much money nor do I place much value on material possessions. I don't seek wealth or status simply because neither appeal to me as adding anything of value to my life. I could make much more money if I wanted, but that would detract from the time I have to spend with family. I know my parents don't approve of my choice, but it gives me peace in my heart to live this way.💗

[@offTheLeftEye]

I'm so glad you are following your heart, mel, and prioritizing what feels the most important to you. God bless!

[@gsand07]

I thank God every day for giving me enough. I always want more, though. I want to be able to help this person and that person etc...and I tell God these things. One day it suddenly occurred to me that perhaps I don’t get “More” because if I give it to this person or that person it would ruin their spiritual development 😲 I know I had to really struggle for many years before my spiritual eyes began to open. Maybe some other people need “struggles” too? Never cared about “rank”-just show me the MONEY lol!!!

[@offTheLeftEye]

Wow, I love this insight. One can wish for money in order to be more helpful to others, but, maybe God is saying "there are different ways I want you to help." And maybe the way we wish we could help someone wouldn't actually be the most helpful! Thank you!

[@fancynancylucille]

@@offTheLeftEye I think I read in the Koran that it is not up to us to judge what the person will do, as when people say, "Don't give him money. He'll just by beer and drugs with it." Yes, I am the eternal enabler. But if they say they need a sandwich, I don't question it. What they really need is the sense that someone cares about them. Maybe it's like pouring water into a sieve, that their self-esteem is so low that they will never come out of it. But I think unconditional positive regard is essential. I don't have much to give, so I try to stop to chat and say a kind word. Sometimes I get fed up with the struggling folks I know and say an unkind word. Maybe God can turn that for good. Maybe I will pay dearly for my indiscretion. I don't know. A perpetual conundrum for me.

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@fancynancylucille lovely thoughts, thank you so much for sharing that. It's a struggle for us all, but it does seem that even the small kind words really make a difference. I know a stranger's kindness can mean all the world to me, and really affect my day! It's a big deal, even though it seems insignificant! I agree with you, that unconditional positive regard is essential! It's a beautiful sentiment. And we all get frustrated and make mistakes - after all we are NOT God - but we deserve mercy. Sometimes I imagine God looking at us with the patience I (try to have) for my children, knowing we are working hard when we have a long way to go, letting us experience consequences as we learn to navigate this world and each other, but loving us and teaching us better behavior unceasingly, in subtle ways. And I don't think you have to pay dearly. I think wanting to do better, to love, is so powerful and will allow you to be led exactly where you need to be! Thanks for your honest insights. Very powerful. Check out, "Why God Can't Get Angry," kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2mxaH6cZqiKjKs

[@PsycheDismantled]

"Moral Gravity. " I just love that.

[@offTheLeftEye]

He certainly has a way with words, doesn't he?

[@julianbristow4793]

Paragraph 250 says it all. .........It explains why these certain superficial people use God to get what they want. They put on the greatest acts. But most of the time, God is not even in the picture. They seem to have separated themselves from the common way of life most people have to live. On the other hand, if they use their unique gifts to help other unfortunate people in the world , then that would be a good gesture. I suppose being poor and having a lot less than most people has put me in a different light or existence. It’s never easy to struggle but very easy to criticize others who have a lot more of anything. But it has been an experience or lesson for me that I’ll never forget. It’s better not to chase power, fame money or rank unless you are going to put it to good use and to help others from your heart. ❤️🙂👍🏻😃

[@offTheLeftEye]

This is so beautifully and wisely expressed, Julian. Thank you, friend! Earthly power, money and rank will all be gone as soon as we die, so it's much better to make an effort to cultivate deeper treasures of the heart and mind. Putting anything that we have to good use, whether it's a lot or a little, is a way to be building those inner treasures.

[@tinopacino9400]

OMG I can’t wait for this one. Iv won the Mega Milland 4 time . First 3 times 7 Dollars yesterday 4 Dollars. God has a Good Sense of Humor..🤣

[@offTheLeftEye]

Ha! That is definitely some consistent luck right there! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this one...

[@tinopacino9400]

offTheLeftEye Plain And Simply. I ask for a winner and I get it, However it’s only a few Bucks at a Time.. I have a sneaky feeling that God is Playing Jokes On Me , Because I laugh out loud every time..He’s a Prankster..

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@tinopacino9400 :)

[@tinopacino9400]

offTheLeftEye 😁 Freaking Guy. Wait till I see him.. He’s getting a Prank Back..🤣

[@Flintlockon]

@@tinopacino9400 He has some explaining to do!

[@melsinTN]

My daughter, who is 15 and I talk often about what we would do if we won the lottery and extend this same question to others we encounter. I often say to her... "Wouldn't it be great to win the lottery and give it away to charities and to normal everyday working people as a surprise?". To me, that would bring the greatest joy just knowing you are helping those in need or even in some cases, changing lives with the gift! Then we have asked others, "What would YOU do, if you won the lottery?" And a lot of them say they would travel, buy houses, cars, etc. Some say help family members, some say pay off debt and invest. but I keep coming back to spontaneously helping people. How fun would it be to stand outside a thrift store and hand out $100 bills? How amazing would it be to start a non profit to help the homeless or give to animal shelters? It all boils down to motive. Everything boils down to motive. Why do you pray? Is it for yourself or for others? Why do you help others? Is it for appearances or do you truly care? Are you teaching these values to your children? Are you also walking the walk, so to speak? All these things matter in helping others. Fantastic episode. I believe many people wonder about this question and you have helped clarify Swedenborg's message on the topic. Thanks so much! I don't comment often but I watch often and read comments often and just felt moved to comment here. Much love!

[@offTheLeftEye]

Wow, I'm so glad you did decide to post this comment. I love it! Thank you.

[@jennifernelson6187]

While there's nothing wrong with blessings, as in standing outside a thrift store offering $100, please do not underestimate the power of building people up. Challenging people in good ways to grow such that they're developing a means to take care of themselves and their families, and in turn, be a blessing to others and the surrounding community. I enjoy nice things as much as I enjoy giving to others. I feel often times called to give to the "least among us". I had an experience recently with a woman who made a difference in my life. She made a small purchase on my behalf and prayed over me and for me. It was quite the experience. We are called to love our neighbor. Remember there are many ways to love. And many different ways to give. I advocate the idea of teaching a man to fish more than giving him a fish. Nothing wrong with giving a fish to satisfy his immediate hunger, but what about his hunger tomorrow? Build him up. Build up yourself as you build up those you encounter.

[@lizzyjesus.9738]

Now I know better lol. Thanks Curtis

[@offTheLeftEye]

:) .

[@David-sc2ir]

To me, money is not about 'things'... it's about 'security'. I am not rich, but the money I have I keep invested and in the bank. I am told often that I can't take it with me... and that is true. BUT... I have no idea what my needs will be ten years or twenty years down the road and I want to be sure I have the essentials like a roof over my head, food, and medical care. I do not want to depend on government handouts or charity. I'm trying to be responsible for myself, which I think is right to do! I don't care about fancy clothes, jewelry, fancy cars, or if I have better things than the people next door.... but I do love a good prime rib every now and then :) On another note.... 'rich' is a relative term. I thought I was 'middle class' until I journeyed to Asia. That's when I realized that compared to many of those I encountered in Vietnam I was so freaking filthy dripping rich in comparison.

[@marksingleton7199]

Money is a tool to provide for your needs. Spiritual riches become more important than physical ones and draw you closer to spiritual truth. Jesus said to his disciples, dont fast ie on spiritual food or food.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Yes, wealth is all relative, isn't it, David? Sounds like you have a good dose of practical economic wisdom. Nothing wrong with having a plan to cover the basic needs of your future!

[@michaelradford9969]

i am not rich but never been in need ,if you dont squander ,never been abroad there for never overspend .we as a family never went short ,will not be preached to but believe in god ,have seen spirits since 1969 ,including family spirits ,all family are together in spirit only a step away into the light a two way thing for spirits they visit when they wish and having seen a robed man by my bed after my wife died ,will not deny god or jesus .my wife is i am told helping others pass into spirit ,i believe people are always looked after in life ,but that maybe just me .

[@offTheLeftEye]

Michael, thank you so much for sharing all this! I'm glad that your own life experiences have been teaching you what is truly important, and also that the spiritual world is very real!

[@alvinleong173]

We need more than one planet in order to make everyone rich!

[@offTheLeftEye]

You may be right, Alvin!

[@timbragg9684]

Curtis' high-lighted text should be framed and sold to generate wealth for OTLE. As I have gained neither status nor wealth - can I mention my book 'Lyrics to Live by' which talks about our attitude and relationship with money? I trust Heaven will constantly enthrall. Thanks to ALL.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks for adding in that awesome book, Tim! Much love...

[@timbragg9684]

@@offTheLeftEye - thank you SO much.

[@paulcook1494]

Interesting points. I know contessa people who worship themselves and HAVE. to acquire as many goods and needless toys as possible. And no matter what, they always are looking for the next best thing. I have a small house on a very load bust street which my wealthy friends won’t even park in my driveway, My philosophy has always been to get what I need. I drive an old clunker, but like most gay men, I’m a good mechanic so I can keep them going. My grandparents sent myself and my brothers to an affluent Catholic school, where we were clearly looked down on. My mother stopped attending church due to the blatant hypocracy, I’ve found purpose in liked by teaching kids who are disadvantaged, and have taken in numerous foster kids, helping troubled youths is, well, my calling. I’m also very into biking which keeps me fit both mind and body, something money can’t buy. I love the work you’re doing with the show, it’s has an enormous positive effect on me, I’m going to leave you with the age old question,: If we were sprits prior to becoming human, why did we become human, And how is our eternity based on how we lived as humans? I don’t expect you to have the answer to such a complex question, but just thought I’d seek your initial. Looking forward to the next video. With love Paul ,

[@offTheLeftEye]

Hi Paul -- Thanks for sharing these reflections and for sharing a bit about your own journey. You are blessed to have a calling of helping others who need help! As for your question, here's a quick answer. Swedenborg does not ascribe to our spirits being in existence before our bodies are. So our arrival on this earth is the beginning of our spirit. How we live on earth is our opportunity to choose the direction of our eternal existence. Every choice we make, either in the direction of goodness (God and other people) or in the direction of evil (harmful behavior stemming from a self-obsessed focus) is building the character of our spirit. So our job here is to bring as much conscious reflection as we can to our daily choices. When we cross over, and the concerns of this earth fall away, we'll be able to have a clear view of our motivations and intentions, and that will lead us to our eternal home. Swedenborg asserts that all humans were created for heaven, but God values our spiritual freedom more than anything else, so we can opt OUT of the Heaven Plan, if that is our true heart's desire. Otherwise, God and the angels are always working with us and for us to have heaven in our minds and hearts and all around us. Thoughts? Thanks for being part of our community!

[@offTheLeftEye]

Oh -- and here's a short clip called "What's the Purpose of Having a Physical Body." Perhaps that will get at what you're asking? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonNaYRoi9qDnNU

[@jonchilds1116]

As my career winds down it's easier to feel the relief of just looking forward to what God puts in front of me today to focus on instead of the noise of how I look or what my position is or if I'll get more pay.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Yes, Jon! And what a good and faithful servant you've been, managing your career all these years. Enjoy the countdown to retirement -- and we'll see you there! (Chara here. :) )

[@whoyawith9494]

Note to self: Don't worry about the roof or the car or the pantry or the bills...or about keeping up appearances or striving to "succeed" by any manmade measure... or about your past or the future or about anything else in all creation! NOTHING can separate you from the love of God and NO ONE can snatch you from His hand. Just keep seeking the kingdom of God (which, by the way, He is pleased to give you and for which He chose you before the foundation of the world). Along with His righteousness, He will give you the fulfillment of your real needs in ways much better than all you can ask or imagine.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Whoyawith, this is exactly what we need to hear right now. Thanks so much for sharing this!

[@whoyawith9494]

💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 We're all in this together! THANK GOD, right!? 😆

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@whoyawith9494 Yes indeed! ❤

[@karenprater8238]

When I die can't take it with me!

[@offTheLeftEye]

Nope!

[@TheSalvationNavy]

Great show. Love it. So the shadows (I think it's the shadows?) are telling me, "So you aren't wealthy to do the good things you want to do in the world because you'd fail to do it out al altruism and use it for your own self-good. So you are being denied it."

[@offTheLeftEye]

I'm so glad you enjoyed this episode! And I'm so glad you recognize how the shadows/dark clouds/dark thoughts/evil spirits try to spin the message. A more positive way to look at it might be, "no matter what level of wealth I am at right now, God brings goodness and growth out of it, so I can trust in the process and be content with whatever comes along. No matter what my level of wealth, I can find ways to help and serve others. God is constantly watching over me and guiding my life to bring me to the greatest possible happiness in the long run." What do you think?

[@mummabearcuddles7956]

I hav enough money to feed my kids pay my bills get petrol and b comfortable ech day ... grateful for the people I hav in my life/home that means more to me than money .. 🤑💕🌟🙏🕊💝

[@offTheLeftEye]

It's so good that you can focus on your blessings, MbC! Spiritual riches are the most valuable kind!

[@fancynancylucille]

Yeah, me too. Until I have to socialize with the relative who "picked himself up by his bootstraps" and considers people who live like that to be immoral. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnuzcpiNacapsLs He thinks he is living in the meritocracy, but he is actually skating on a combination of white male privilege, greed, and his status in the dysfunctional family as the "Golden Child".

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@fancynancylucille sounds like a very hard person to relate to! Hopefully he will find a different way to view the world and see others with more compassion. The good news is, we only live with the people we are compatible with in the next world! And while we are still in this life, I find it helps me to [try] to send prayers to those who really frustrate me! Easier said than done.

[@trevormendez5363]

In other words just keep it simple😎😎😎

[@offTheLeftEye]

Well said, Trevor!

[@understandyourmind]

That's a really excellent video! The first video which I am watching on your channel, I got some recommendation so I came here. I am going to have a look at more, as my brain works similar to yours.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Tome, welcome to our channel! I'm so glad this discussion resonated with you. I hope you continue to enjoy exploring our videos, and seeing what you think. Wishing you all the best!

[@understandyourmind]

@@offTheLeftEye 6 months after this comment, still watching :D

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@understandyourmind We're so grateful for your ongoing presence in the audience! That is a blessing to us. Thank you.

[@brendadrew834]

P.S. keep these great informative , enlightened videos and discussions coming! I find them fascinating along with Swedenborg! Wish they had talked about this in the churches/synagogues I attended over the past 60 plus years as I ran around "sampling" different religions! All paths lead to the same God or is it Goddess? Since we're made in God's image wouldn't it's image also be the "Sacred Feminine" as well? Food for thought! Ying and yang energies, male and female!?

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks for the encouragement on our channel, Brenda. Swedenborg relates the image of God and the form of heaven in his description of the "Grand Human" -- which does indeed include all parts of the body, both male and female!

[@brendadrew834]

@@offTheLeftEye You're most welcome!!

[@julianbristow4793]

I wonder when we pass on, how would we look and feel? The same as when we passed (old and tired)? I suppose it’s different for people who pass on in different circumstances and may pass at infancy, some at childhood, some as young adults and some as old age. 🌸🙂❤️

[@offTheLeftEye]

From all that I have heard, no one feels old and tired when they cross over. People who cross over in old age instantly feel more energy, and then gradually begin to look younger. I've heard stories from people about visitations from their elderly loved ones soon after death, and they have said that instead of 80-something the person looked maybe 60-something, and in radiant good health. So I think there is an instant upgrade, and then a more gradually return to a youthful look.

[@gg274500]

I often hear from clients about their distrust of God to downright disbelief along the lines of "if there is a God why does he allow suffering of all kinds. Hearing this from clients, I have a difficult time answering it. without sounding righteous disrespecting their thoughts and feelings.

[@gg274500]

I no longer listen to OTLE while driving due to safety concerns, so I get to watch the presentation in a safe environment. This is a provocative subject. For me it boils down to what is it that value above all things.

[@offTheLeftEye]

I sympathize with this, Gabriella! It seems one of the un-understandable things about the human condition. I can only apply my concept of an all-knowing, all-loving God directing the whole thing, but that doesn't alleviate the suffering! Bless you in your work.

[@marksingleton7199]

The question is the answer. Ask him why.

[@harlanlang6556]

I've heard this a lot too. It's as if God should have created the universe like a huge Disney World where there's nothing but fun and joy. The fact that the universe is more like the laboratory of a school where we can unravel the mysteries and secrets of the universe, including how to remove and avoid pain and ignorance, hints at why God made the universe as He did.

[@B_i_R_D__M_a_N]

Curtis is clearly trying to be the best host of a peculiar KZbin channel dedicated to the writings of a now-obscure 17th-century mystic. Be fair though, he is quite good at it.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Haha! Thanks for your stamp of approval! But to be a nit-picker, we generally call Swedenborg an 18th-century guy, since he only lived his first twelve years in the 17th century.... :)

[@XSDbloxplayzYouTube]

WoW

[@offTheLeftEye]

In a good way?

[@princessncg1]

Now I'm glad I don't have rank or wealth. The TV commercials certainly don't give us the idea that rank and wealth is not important lol.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Yes! That's what advertising does for us! Such a relief to stop watching those commercials.... Looking for ways to love and serve others is perhaps a faster route to peace and contentment.

[@fancynancylucille]

And I love that last line about "irreverent people" who "are given high rank" and "get positions of power in state and CHURCH"....... and such people accept the title "Reverend"!!!!!!!! Don't that just beat all? They are to be revered. Even if they openly admit, as a minister, with the title "Reverend", that they care more about social climbing than they do about helping those who are beneath them, whom they judge as "undeserving"!!!!!!!!! Such a person, a minister, does not give money to those who are in need, but lends it to them from his discretionary fund and expects them to pay it back. He makes sure to let them know how undeserving they are, and parades his knowledge of "religions" which amounts to the history of the social workings of Christian denominations and their political relationships. He does not include the Church of the New Jerusalem, of which he has never heard. Yeah, I am resentful. Last time I saw this guy I sang, "In the Garden". He proceeded to do his sermon, turned to me in front of the entire congregation and iterated, "Because Jesus is NOT in the garden!!!!!" Yeah. Right. Unitarian atheist.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Sounds like you've had a tough experience, fnl. May you heal from it, and find a new, more nourishing direction!

[@rickrouse7865]

Money can be a curse and we all know drug addict winning the lotto cliché but it's more subtler then that. A youtuber I followed had his wife leaving him with his small child and she just left one night and took basically half his fortune with her. He explained why it happened and he said money was a prime issue, he had too much of it. To boil it down she had the financial freedom to leave whenever she wanted. If they were a "regular" married couple she would have had to stay BUT they could have worked on their marriage. Also did she really love him for him or his wealth? He eluded to that. He said his parents had to stay together for financial reasons and their marriage was rough at first. With time their love for each other grew and because they didn't have the options to call it quits they nurtured a wonderful loving relationship together. Sometimes not having the freedom to do something is what's saving your soul.

[@heuksalman]

Rick Rouse The TechLead?

[@rickrouse7865]

@@heuksalman heh well he did make the video public so it's not a privacy issue.. yep it's him.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Interesting story, Rick. I guess there are a billion ways in which the Lord leads us, using whatever circumstances we have.

[@marksingleton7199]

I love swedenborg but sometimes he falls short on why the world is the way it is and how to overcome it. It was great that his wealth allowed him to do the work God set him. But globally, in his lifetime there was terrible living standards for the masses and the rich were a small minority. If you need a lifetime to develop spiritually, it wasn't going to happen on earth. So praying to God was compulsory at the time( you were forced to go to church). But God was allowing poverty so you could be spiritually rich but physically destitute. A few days ago I was told life is about balance. You can receive and it is good to accept out of love. You should give to those who need because you yourself have recieved out of love. But you should never take from someone. Mentally, physically or spiritually. That's all I got and my heart asks why the takers get away with causing a lack in others to the point of causing death and pain. There's no boundary unless God wants US to set a boundary. Any thoughts out their.

[@ttepic76]

Look in to Bertha Dudde. She with Swedenborg will give you full picture

[@marksingleton7199]

@@ttepic76 Interesting. It's the same language I percieve.

[@marksingleton7199]

@@ttepic76 Thankyou

[@marksingleton7199]

@@ttepic76 read creation part 1. So this is why I was told you have to be human and Well you did decide to be independent. The most baffling was waking up in the middle of the night to hear, So how does it feel to be human. I can't repeat what I said. Also as I read near the end I got dream like images and feelings from the past. Well, well. This should get more and more interesting. What's your experience.

[@ttepic76]

@@marksingleton7199 I have similar thing like Swedenborg but not 24/7 like he.

[@marijkevandermeer2772]

Of course, you need your basic needs met...but not power and wealth as an objective in itself...we see it in the world around us...

[@offTheLeftEye]

Correct, Marijke. "Love of self" -- in it's right place in the hierarchy -- is orderly and necessary. It is exclusive focus on oneself at the expense of others that makes "love of self" problematic!

[@marijkevandermeer2772]

@@offTheLeftEye yes...thank you for your reply! 💙

[@Carrie25]

Around 21-22 minutes made me think of the concept of the narcissistic wound.

[@jhod555]

Me too. Also, ahem, current politics, which is related. (she wrote, running away)

[@offTheLeftEye]

I'm not familiar with that particular concept, Carrie, but I can imagine it. Interesting that it rang a bell....

[@karenprater8238]

I am good more riches more problems.

[@offTheLeftEye]

That is one way to look at it!

[@Master-AGN]

Just for context in the state of human thought processes. If wo/man’s purpose of their earthly sojourn is to discover and verify the divine within self. Then without a permanent state of randomicity in human affairs then there would be no reason to search for God. And therefore no reason for the soul to take it’s Journey. Therefore, human spiritual evolution would be in stasis. Therefore, randomicity is an essential for spiritual growth. It causes the questioning like is God compassionate and interventionist or aloof and omniscient. Even with my own students I will not give them the answer when it is plainly obvious to me. There is a inherent value in the process of discovery. These states of greed, envy and social rank are the first hurdles to overcome in your personal spiritual evolution; and like Job your metal will tested. One of the final steps is giving up your personal dependence and addiction to external pleasure. The wise will always come to the inevitable conclusion that pleasure (whether it be physical, emotional or mental) is a incidental state of existence not the purpose of it. I hope what I am saying is helpful and understandable.

[@offTheLeftEye]

I appreciate your sharing these thoughts, Master Shannon. Thanks for adding to the conversation here.

[@lechanneldemysterieuxmante1807]

I know you speak in jest much of the time Curtis but I think you get new regulars pretty often in My estimation

[@offTheLeftEye]

I think you're right, Devious Goblin. But yes, he has a light-hearted approach to very serious subjects , which I think is a winning formula!

[@FaFa-bw1mm]

points taken: the reason of asking this question is because we had a false premise that fame and money as the core of happiness, while usefulness and service should be.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Exactly! Well said.

[@paulbelfrage876]

I truly wish i was able not to be afraid of financial insecurity, but i most definitely am!..infact this is my number one BIGGIE! With a financial backstop, one can hold off/push back material ruin or the burdens that come with all things pertaining to the body. Since we live here & under the law/s of time/space/gravity etc, we must endure the world and it's privation's..we may/may not be assisted by a higher power/angels?.. God knows I've been talking my damn arse blue, in order to get some clarity from higher spirit guides regards to life direction etc...it's the silence that is scary i'll say that much!!..SO!..Perhaps like my dear parents & many many hundreds of thousands of ordinary soul's, it will be a case of i get to be special on/after my death..Then i can ask be heard and be taken seriously by the powers of the beyond, because currently i feel forgotten when i comes to spiritual connection/assistance/understanding. Not nice.

[@offTheLeftEye]

You are already special in the eyes of God, Paul, and are being constantly taken care of! It can be hard to notice that if you are picturing care just happening in one specific, earthly way. God sees our eternal story, and is providing for our long-term welfare. We discuss that in our episode "Does God Control Good Luck?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6W1c5-fmdeSq7M It's very understandable to feel worried about finances, but it causes misery to be driven by fear. It can block an ability to notice all that is going well, and all the ways you are being helped each day. Maybe try some ideas Curtis suggests in this short video, "How to Detach From Fear" kzbin.info/www/bejne/roK1hXiYZbRllaM Wishing you well, Paul! Wishing you peace!

[@paulbelfrage876]

Thank you for your reply.

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@paulbelfrage876 Curtis's speech "The Why Is Everything: A Cellular Blueprint for Life" might also be helpul. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGq6lmtvfK-JsNU In it he talks about what has helped him to get past lots of fear and anxiety.

[@Astepatatimekvarn]

Yes I will support you through Patreon. I see you have no advertising. I'm curious. Why. I'm sure you would get some financial help. Or would you have to censor your topics? Curiosity

[@offTheLeftEye]

We appreciate your support, kvarn! You could also go to offthelefteye.com/donate and support us that way. This is Chara, part of the Community Care Team, so I don't know about all the ins and outs of our internet presence. KZbin got to the point of suggesting our videos, so that's some kind of promotion, if not advertising. I imagine you're right that we don't want to be beholden to anyone who's giving us big bucks. That said, we DO have some very generous donors who make our work possible. We're just not going the 'advertising' route. Those are a few initial (and somewhat ignorant) thoughts!

[@joyborazjani2355]

Money and power won't get you this Joy. :D (six minutes in and I just couldn't resist my millionth joke about my name. lol)

[@offTheLeftEye]

Ha! Joy will certainly find you though, Joy!

[@joyborazjani2355]

@@offTheLeftEye

[@harlanlang6556]

I don't know. Rich Joy or poor Joy, you're still Joy.

[@joyborazjani2355]

@@harlanlang6556 I wanna be Heavenly Joy. :P

[@harlanlang6556]

@@joyborazjani2355 Then that's what your gonna get! There must be a heavenly power in having the name Joy. I have a friend named Joy and she really is her name.

[@JohnSmith-zw6tr]

Confused, thanks.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Hi John Smith! Are you new to our channel? It might help to start with some basics! The mission of this channel is to share the first-hand reports of Emanuel Swedenborg (1688-1772). He had direct, daily spiritual experiences for 27 years. He was the first to admit that people would find this hard to believe! And we honor that everyone has to run this kind of info past their own rationality and intuition to see what resonates as true for them. Here is a short video about him: "Who Was Swedenborg?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnbEYZhudsiGbZo And here a longer episode about his life and credentials: "Was Swedenborg Crazy?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZC9gWZmg6uMnJo And a full length introduction episode called "Swedenborg 101: The Basic Nature of Everything." kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYKUZXiZetyEjLM If that's not what you were looking for, let me know what I can clarify for you! Thanks for commenting!

[@roberthickey1107]

I just want a place that I can call my own, so I can retreat to for peace and quite. Also a workshop to create stuff,and just maybe change the world with my ideas for the better. I would like to have money so I can live, but to live so I can help others. Pray that I win the lottery, for its a responsibility to help others and not just yourself. So many people think once they win,they can go on a permanent vacation 😔.....not me. Anyways I've been hoping to be a change in the world. The powers that be don't want me to have that kind of money,because they know I would change the world and they would lose the power they have.....for it belongs to the individual and the communities they live in,and not in the hands of a small group of bankers! Please my Lord in Heaven bless this man so he may bless those in need.amen 😜

[@offTheLeftEye]

Robert, I hope you win the lottery, because it sounds like you will do great things for yourself and others! Many who have money hoard it and waste the opportunity to do good with it, but many also use it to help others and improve the world. I see a lot of wonderful entrepreneurs starting socially responsible businesses now and it gives me hope that we can use money for good in a very visceral way! I would be so happy to see more people like you with more resources to share love and happiness with others. God bless, Robert!

[@fancynancylucille]

@@offTheLeftEye I always remember that Swedenborg says that entrepreneurs are supposed to be in it to serve others, not to get rich. Any business owner should care more about the quality of his product and the effect it has on his customer's life, helpful or harmful. He should care more about the well-being of his employees than about his own wealth or social standing. And he should care about the environment. Some people are like this.

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@fancynancylucille yes, absolutely. Heavenly goals mean that all we acquire and do - as much as we possibly can - should be for the good of others as well as ourselves. And we can be very productive and comfortable while still being thoughtful, generous, useful people! A life of heaven is a win-win! Good point!

[@trentappleman4597]

Hi, I like your approach to getting things across in our era, but this isn't even about that: this is a head's up that the Discord app site doesn't seem to have any New Church server presence at the moment. And you might be interested in that gap, interested in having a beachhead server there linked to your show, because the place is full of people who are on the fence, spiritually.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thank you for that idea, Trent! Our team is working on developing a home website for Off The Left Eye, in which we can better organize the videos and materials, and maybe after that is established, things like apps could be important enhancements to our efforts to reach people!

[@delizzadavila3657]

but isn't spiritualizing poverty just as dangerous? I mean not explicitly want to pursue wealth for purposes of getting into heaven I don't know what am I trying to say LOL. ? also I I think intent is everything.if I pursue wealth and use it to help others and not to glorify myself while I think that's a good thing and God can use me at the end of the day tool..... will I say that but I am poor, maybe God knows if I had a lot of money I would get greedy.. hehe.

[@marksingleton7199]

Ah, but you can accrue spiritual wealth instead. Spirtualizing financial poverty was the medieval fat clergy living in palaces paid for by the serfs.

[@offTheLeftEye]

I agree with you, delizza -- intent or motive is everything. But it was interesting to see these common pitfalls for humanity pointed out, around wealth and status. Good to think about no matter our income, a chance to examine motives and goals.

[@harlanlang6556]

It all depends on where we are on the scale of maturity. If we're on the low end, then we want what is, in the end, harmful to us and others. Small children want candy and potato chips available all the time. Pain, on the other hand, leads us to ponder and reflect on life, which leads us to a higher level. Are you familiar with Benny Hinn the very successful Evangelist of the Prosperity Gospel which preaches that if you just give lots of money to "God", then you'll get ten times that amount back from God. Well, he's changed his tune and says that was all bad and not Christian. But that's sort of the extreme of wanting wealth and position in life as a gift from God because God wants you to be rich. Baha'u'llah says just the opposite: O Son of Man ! My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy. Hasten thereunto that thou mayest become an eternal light and an immortal spirit. This is My command unto thee , do thou observe it. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Thou lookest upon them that are dear unto Thee with the eyes of Thy loving-kindness, and sendest down for them only that which will profit them through Thy grace and Thy gifts. ~ Bahá’u’lláh ~

[@offTheLeftEye]

I especially love that line "outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy." God is using everything that happens to bring about the greatest good! Thank you for this, Harlan.

[@kale7842]

I've always valued family and friends and love to lend a helping hand spiritually or physically. I grown to realise lots in my family only value wealth and if they don't deem you successful your irrelevant. I hated it for the aforementioned. Now, that my life is on the rise. They still are touch ang go with me..It's like they fear my success I don't know what to do. I want to be far from their judgement but still love laugh and provide any way I can. Any advice?

[@offTheLeftEye]

Family dynamics can be so tricky! Advice is not my thing, but some thoughts that come up are these: Setting boundaries for our safety and well-being is important. As much as we can, "loving our neighbor," wishing them well and looking for the good in them is a way to follow the Lord. Helping others from that standpoint can be a blessing. Sounds like you're on an individual journey -- may you feel the Lord's leading as you traverse it!

[@kale7842]

@@offTheLeftEye Thank you. I was thinking personal boundaries might be key. Situation still kind of sucks but God has provided me with close friends in my life I consider family. Thank you again for your time and great advice!

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@kale7842 Yes, personal boundaries. Deciding what ways you can have contact that is healthy, while refusing to have the kind of contact that is unhealthy. Much easier said than done, but, just take a step and a time in developing a system that works for you. And how wonderful that you have recognized "kindred spirits" outside of your family of origin that can be spiritual family. God bless!

[@bonniegates486]

I have a person I always think of as an example of that person who is rich and loves himself, power,and all that.You might know who this is LOL

[@Flintlockon]

Is it me? I'm sorry!

[@bonniegates486]

🤣😂😂😂 no ! I was just thinking it might have been me at some point in my life

[@Flintlockon]

@@bonniegates486 Shofar shogood!

[@offTheLeftEye]

:)

[@ewootenjr]

How do you know I'm not rich unless you're basing it on material things?

[@offTheLeftEye]

I don't know, my friend. I don't know! :) In what way do you enjoy abundance?

[@Spiritualbeing420]

Man I've always wondered that very question half the people on this earth that do wrong that have it made Should be us always B rad ,I haven't seen this video just yet but i hope it clear things up love you GOD😎👍🏼

[@offTheLeftEye]

Let us know what you think of the episode, B-rad!

[@Spiritualbeing420]

Makes perfect sense I always say I'd rather be rich in the afterlife than be rich on earth. Always B rad

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@Spiritualbeing420 Awesome. I'm glad this message resonated with you!

[@bigwu100]

Well what about those who are?

[@offTheLeftEye]

Swedenborg does say it's alright to enjoy material pleasures - but we need to have balance about what we hold as most important in our lives. Check out this short clip, "What Did Swedenborg Say About Money?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4aoeWealMZpmM0

[@ivorybow]

This is a pretzel indeed. Which comes first, worship of self, then accumulation of riches and hoarding it? Or accumulation of riches, then becoming selfish, then hoarding? I think of those multi-billionaires who could with one donation they would not even feel, ease horrific suffering, like Bangladesh's wretched water situation, where children are drinking filthy, excrement contaminated water. And yet they don't. There are studies that acquiring wealth changes the brain to diminish empathy. So I think, were the Lord to gift me with wealth, would I become someone else and end up hoarding it too? And how do selfish people manage to amass such wealth? What is the way they acquire it? Why and how are they given such extreme power over resources that are withheld from suffering humanity? It's all very backwards it seems.

[@offTheLeftEye]

It's so hard to understand, isn't it, Carolyn? Thanks for being here with us to share in the mystery of it all.....

[@RobbieTullos]

Bingo

[@offTheLeftEye]

I take it this resonated with you, Robbie?

[@RobbieTullos]

@@offTheLeftEye yes about 99% of what Curtis has to say resonates with me. I feel sometimes that I'm not selfish but there are more times than not where I believe if I'm not understood the other person that doesn't understand me is not worth my time.

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@RobbieTullos I hear you. And to be clear, that part of us that gets immersed in selfishness is the lower self (which is all we would be without opening up to God). We also all have a higher self that is where God's unselfish love dwells inside us, and at the times we open up to that, then, that love is in charge!

[@greenhornet5186]

I think Swedenborg was independently wealthy, was he not?

[@offTheLeftEye]

Yes, Green Hornet, he was born and raised in the Swedish upper class. His family was ennobled in 1719. You can read more about Swedenborg's life here: swedenborg.com/emanuel-swedenborg/about-life/

[@warhawk7128]

I certainly don't envy the rich and powerful; they all seem quite miserable even from my vantage point. But it is extremely unfortunate that they can inflict the kinds of evils they can on everyone else. That isn't God's fault, but it's a hell of a thing.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Yes, I hear you. It's terrible when anything is used as a weapon used for negative power over others, including wealth.

[@eyeopeningtruth7518]

Trust on God built on the basis of experience with Him in reality. Believe on God based on heoretical views will shake with time. Humans are too weak to experience God if He Himself does not show Him to His creatures. But God never show Himself to people who have opposite qualities to Him. People who have lust, anger, greed, ego and materialistic attackers are not worthy of His experience. Once a person has God experience, that creature become abundance in everyone. Rich people are rich because they work hard nothing comes without effort in this material plane. Moreover, material wealth has no value in front of God. , it's temporary perishable including our body, planets etc. Eth beyond materialistically is permanent that is God and our spirit. Some people in temples are much more wicked than rich people. Do you think they deserve wealth of any kind with such malice heart

[@offTheLeftEye]

I hear your concerns. Sometimes people just DO have wealth, through no work of their own, through inheritance or what-have-you. Sometimes people with ill will have wealth. I think the point is that sometimes these types can accomplish useful things in the world, even if their motives aren't pure. But of course we can never know everything that's in someone else's heart! God alone is working on that level with every single one of us.

[@eyeopeningtruth7518]

@@offTheLeftEye wealth or anything materialistic or physical is temporary. Humans cannot raise to supreme conscious level. If you will see from His level, whole cosmos is passing away or perishable. May be we do not think so. For Him materialistic things are no more than grains of sands. For Him morals, spirit growth is important that is permanent. Moreover if anyone get anything in inheritance, do you not think that it's destiny or past good karma to be born in such family? Evils who have money also destroy after sometime. History tells us that how powerful emperors fell down so low and die. Many poor get richer in few days times. If someone hurt many people in past lives if he was not able to pay for pain suffering, that man will come back to go through all that suffering. We are living in highly organised system that is not visible to us due to our own physical mental limitation. Many poor people do hard work but exploited. Their exploiter are creating new karmas for next life while victim will be paid off next time. Our earth planet looks like a grain of sand in our own galaxy, how can we comprehend vast complicate system and working with our own tiny limitations ?

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@eyeopeningtruth7518 Yes, I completely agree that worldly wealth and material possessions are very temporary, and they do not matter in the end. So, they are only temporary tools that we can use for good or for evil. And yes, how we choose to use things on earth affects our spirits, and our connection with God. For God, it is the good virtues of the spirit that matter. Thank you so much for sharing this perspective here!

[@eyeopeningtruth7518]

@@offTheLeftEye It is very hard to understand the vast system of creator with our present limitation owing to our physicality or mentality. It is hard to grasp or understand for any spiritual underdeveloped person but I am happy that you understand it little bit. Our physical eyes are not able to see after few meters distance, how can we see things with these physical eyes that are meant to see only limited physical world. We need inner spirit eyes to understand our cosmos. Anyone who is sincere God show Him path to reach to Him.

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@eyeopeningtruth7518 I agree. Thank you!

[@dinopharis2876]

Temporal temporary Temple time are all the same anything that is restricted by time is temporary sorry Curtis just thought I'd do my two cents in 😘

[@offTheLeftEye]

Those words are related and help explain our experience, Dinopharis. Thanks for being part of the conversation.

[@bigwu100]

You know im not rich.

[@offTheLeftEye]

We can relate, Bigwu!

[@bigwu100]

Except in faith

[@vickybiagini8623]

I need to know that an actual Heaven exists, one where everything is perfect, because this world is beyond horrible. Aging is beyond horrible, and we suffer in these mortal bodies. Why would God create an imperfect world, for a perfect one to come? It just doesn't make sense at all.

[@offTheLeftEye]

Hello, Vicky! I hear you, this physical existence, and dealing with physical bodies, can be very challenging. Yes, Swedenborg witnessed that an actual heaven exists, where we will not have to deal with these kinds of struggles any more. The physical world was originally created in a state of harmony, without suffering, but that original harmony became corrupted as humanity gradually made more and more choices that were selfish and greedy. So, today, we deal with the fallout of that in all the challenges of physical life! Here is a short clip about why we need to start out in a physical body in order to have a foundation for an eternal individual identity: "Whats the Point of Having a Physical Body?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonNaYRoi9qDnNU

[@nikkipolk6117]

I knew there was a reason.lol

[@offTheLeftEye]

Ha, there is! Stay tuned...

[@nikkipolk6117]

Will do. Though it feels as if I'm rich....just not with the green stuff that gets things.

[@offTheLeftEye]

@@nikkipolk6117 I'm glad that you realize there is a deeper "richness" that is of much better quality! Treasures in heaven, or the heavenly part of you, rather than "treasures on earth."

[@nikkipolk6117]

Its a struggle. But yes I find that being poor was a blessing. And wealth doesnt mean perfect. Its just feelings and things.

[@colincrisp1592]

This reminds me of just after 911 So few people wanted to stand up and say We will not be part of bombing countries back to the stone age There position in life was more important I would have put my life on the line to stop those wars The world is not what I thought most care only if there is not a price Sorry to say THANK YOU ALL

[@offTheLeftEye]

Thanks for being here, colin.

[@ph9692]

U dont have to go to mo church..in order to believe in God..but most people are hypocrites. And think because they go to church and pray..and when they get out of church they start fighting with others over money and material things..then they dont really believe in God..not in my book..😉🌹🙏

[@offTheLeftEye]

Yes, Penny -- Swedenborg writes, "We are engaged in true worship when we are devoted to love and caring -- that is, when we are devoted to doing what is good in our daily lives." Does that ring true for you?

[@fancynancylucille]

Doesn't the Old Testament sort of teach this? I often notice that such people as these that I meet in Churches are usually more oriented to the Old Testament and a superficial interpretations of, say, the 23rd Psalm. Is it the book of Micah that has that verse about opening a window in heaven to send down wealth? They go to church every Sunday and teach Sunday school, then something bad happens and they literally flip God the bird and give up on religion. Fine. Well, I don't blame them. The "God" they worshipped let them down. I'm usually fine with my simple life with few possessions and a love for internal things. But then I am ashamed of myself in front of my more successful relatives. It looks like they are more moral. Maybe they are. It looks like they work harder. Maybe they do. But I was literally diagnosed by an employment specialist as not having a profit motive. And he wouldn't help me get a job, because he said he could not in good conscience send me out to any of his clients! Go figure! In addition to Swedenborg, I am quite enamoured at the moment of the writings of Maurice Nicoll, who says that "life" itself is not the "goal". He says that the Gospels are about something else entirely, not about advancing yourself in this life. But they sure can be helpful if you want to overcome something like alcoholism. ON THE OTHER HAND, (and I have been trying to get you guys to explore this for me), Swedenborg himself was HIGHLY successful in the world, he had a lot of respect, knew a lot of famous people, and had kind of a lot of money. (Just not "filthy" rich!?) And I am sure lots of people thought he was a very nice kook.

[@offTheLeftEye]

I resonate with not having a profit motive! If you play the comparison game (deadly for me), it can sometimes be embarrassing. I know a little of Nicoll's work -- wonder what he says about the Gospels helping with addiction? So what is it you're trying to explore about Swedenborg and his earthly status? Maybe the Lord needed someone for the job who had a trustworthy reputation, good connections, and enough financial security to be able to do the job without pay. What do you come up with when you explore it for yourself?

[@salyjose8595]

I think you interview a spirit who is against God and had been working against God on Earth as well as after death. Trust that we can't measure in our maximum 100.years life on Earth ..His wisdom to manage all the planet's and many lives and soul cant be understood or measured by a interview with a departed spirit. God is lives and He is eternal

[@offTheLeftEye]

Hi Saly Jose, I agree, God lives, is very real, and is eternal. We cannot hope, as finite beings, to fully comprehend the infinite. What spirit are you saying is against God and has been working against God on earth and in death?