there’s a secret 4th team you’re not meant to use, so what if we do?

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Күн бұрын

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@lemono5954
@lemono5954 Жыл бұрын
This must be why sentries summoned with commands act so weird, they’re on team unassigned.
@otne1
@otne1 Жыл бұрын
if you do not specify in the command on which team they should be on they get on team unassigned so yes
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Жыл бұрын
Pog!
@robloxian-craft1941
@robloxian-craft1941 Жыл бұрын
How do we make them red then?
@linus327
@linus327 Жыл бұрын
@Robloxian-Craft Animates ent_fire !picker setteam # (replace # with 2 for red, 3 for blu) for already spawned sentries OR ent_create obj_sentrygun teamnum # (2 for red, 3 for blu)
@robloxian-craft1941
@robloxian-craft1941 Жыл бұрын
@@linus327 thank you
@theflamethr0wer724
@theflamethr0wer724 Жыл бұрын
if we had this information 10-15 years ago people would have made a lot of fan content about Unassigned as if it were a real faction.
@maninthemask6275
@maninthemask6275 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they would have been the dark spoky team from gray man.
@sonof6802
@sonof6802 Жыл бұрын
i mean OWN exists
@venyogo2
@venyogo2 Жыл бұрын
it would've been on the comic
@davitdavid7165
@davitdavid7165 Жыл бұрын
I am sure someone will do it now
@-_._._-
@-_._._- Жыл бұрын
We did have this info almost that many years ago. SourceMod server plugin devs like myself knew about the Unassigned team for years. It's well known to us.
@lumenid4842
@lumenid4842 Жыл бұрын
I remember while playing on Skial DeathRun 2 or 3 years ago, there was a glitch where if you typed "join_class [classname]" in the console before joining a team, you'd instantly spawn at point 0,0 on the map with BLU colored cosmetics. If you change to RED team, your cosmetics would stay blue but you'd otherwise look red. If the map being played on had point 0,0 on the playable area, you could use this to play tricks on the other players. Then one day, I tried this glitch and it allowed me to skip past the team assignment entirely, keeping me on team unassigned. I wrecked some of my teammates for a bit, and then they killed me (notably, the kill feed showed my name in grey). I wish I could've recorded this happening, because it only worked once and sadly they have long since fixed the glitch. I can never reproduce it anymore and I wish I could try it just once more. Thank you for igniting a burning memory with this video, appreciate your hard work!
@Berd-Wasted.
@Berd-Wasted. Жыл бұрын
Burning memory?
@zerotian5661
@zerotian5661 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@nightyboyo
@nightyboyo Жыл бұрын
It's all just a burning memory, huh?
@darwinmukiryoku
@darwinmukiryoku Жыл бұрын
Did this on cocainum, airblasted people into the death zones on the side. I was banned for a week lol
@ryanhernandez8324
@ryanhernandez8324 Жыл бұрын
New Brain Bit Unlocked: *The Strange Festive Burning Memory*
@masterofbloopers
@masterofbloopers Жыл бұрын
Finally, Gray Mann's team is playable!
@WeedCop
@WeedCop Жыл бұрын
Kidnapping by eagle sold separately
@underpussy_
@underpussy_ Жыл бұрын
robots in mvm are on team unassigned - confirmed
@Nibbenji2077
@Nibbenji2077 Жыл бұрын
Nah this is the administrator's team. Red+Blue=Purple
@tye-wynd5218
@tye-wynd5218 Жыл бұрын
His team is blu
@damedaneguy6160
@damedaneguy6160 Жыл бұрын
​@@tye-wynd5218no he's not blu is Blutarch Mann
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 Жыл бұрын
This man probably spent more time in the Game’s Code than he did playing the Game
@K_E_K_E_L
@K_E_K_E_L Жыл бұрын
He spent more time in the code than TF2 Devs
@Tucker454
@Tucker454 Жыл бұрын
He spent more time in the Editing program he's using than he did rest from it
@thefirebeanie5481
@thefirebeanie5481 Жыл бұрын
I think you’ve waited long enough to change your name
@JohnPaulBuce
@JohnPaulBuce Жыл бұрын
@@thefirebeanie5481 fcebook moment
@asfzg2870
@asfzg2870 Жыл бұрын
He has achieved developer status
@MMillion
@MMillion Жыл бұрын
imagining a cursed halloween map where merasmus converts a selection of the server to be his minions on team unassigned, and they get switched back after they get killed
@redstonewarrior0152
@redstonewarrior0152 Жыл бұрын
Or after Merasmus dies. We can't forget about that.
@MrFireWolf
@MrFireWolf Жыл бұрын
there are freak fortress bosses that work like this
@kentreed2011
@kentreed2011 9 ай бұрын
​@@MrFireWolfFreak fortress bosses do not put you on team "UNASSIGNED" they actually put you on team BLU (Since the normal players are RED and the boss player is BLU) but I get what you mean.
@Somewhereinanewplace
@Somewhereinanewplace Жыл бұрын
5:03 After being killed so many times by the engineer that wanted guaranteed crits with the frontier justice, the sentry decided to take revenge
@EdibleREAL
@EdibleREAL Жыл бұрын
Or because he farmes strange wrench/pda
@davidvelasco4423
@davidvelasco4423 11 ай бұрын
Don't trust them, Pumpkin Man! They're a furry!
@EdibleREAL
@EdibleREAL 11 ай бұрын
@@davidvelasco4423 sounds like scary thing
@mattburrowes
@mattburrowes 11 ай бұрын
"You killed me for guaranteed crits, so i will do the same!"
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
"But the jetpack will push unassigned teammates.. for some reason." I love how Source is so convoluted and difficult to explain that even Shounic sometimes finds something he can only shrug and say "I don't know" in response to.
@ChesterManfred
@ChesterManfred Жыл бұрын
Spaghetti monster moment
@spartv1537
@spartv1537 Жыл бұрын
It doesnt mean he dont know, he just don't told us since its not an interesting information
@SaphireLattice
@SaphireLattice Жыл бұрын
Nah he just didn't look it up and it would need digging through code for something silly and not normally seen Otherwise it would be a small snippet about why
@Dr_Dan_
@Dr_Dan_ Жыл бұрын
isnt the jetpack programmed to push players when you use it? its probably working only on gray players cuz they are the only one with collision in this sittuation
@spartv1537
@spartv1537 Жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Dan_ Jetpack overwrites player velocity
@WangleLine
@WangleLine Жыл бұрын
Team Fourtress
@juango500
@juango500 Жыл бұрын
Team Fortress 2 Classic
@UH-60_Blackhawk
@UH-60_Blackhawk Жыл бұрын
Fortress Team
@fgyjtingenieroeuropeo56
@fgyjtingenieroeuropeo56 Жыл бұрын
Team 4tress.
@S2MLE100KILL
@S2MLE100KILL Жыл бұрын
We've expecting Team fortress 3 but we forgot Valve had Threefobia so we will have Team Fourtress 4 confirmed! 🎉🎉
@elpizzas1234
@elpizzas1234 Жыл бұрын
team 5tress
@FairPlay0007
@FairPlay0007 Жыл бұрын
"The teleporter has a heart attack" caught me so off guard
@robboss7920
@robboss7920 Жыл бұрын
You could do a wrangler based gamemode with unassigned players since they don’t target red team, making the wrangler the only option for attacking. (Red vs Unassigned in some way)
@gimpscam9976
@gimpscam9976 Жыл бұрын
Amazing idea! There’d have to be some balancing cause I feel like if one person gets the upper hand they’ll never lose.
@ChrisNinjaEagle
@ChrisNinjaEagle Жыл бұрын
Red team would have to be disallowed from playing engineer in order to differentiate red team from team unassigned, since they both use the same model textures. Other than that it would be pretty much fine, except that team unassigned would have always be defense since they can't cap, and they also wouldn't be able to block capture so rushing point would be meta for red, and very hard to counter by team unassigned
@Matt-td8xw
@Matt-td8xw Жыл бұрын
I think i wouod also be awsome to have a VSH like gamemode like this, it would be like fighting merasmus on Halloween.
@-_._._-
@-_._._- Жыл бұрын
Players aren't meant to be on Unassigned, really. When we put players on Unassigned using a sourcemod server plugin and that player died, it'd crash the player off the server.
@j.hawkins8779
@j.hawkins8779 Жыл бұрын
​@@-_._._-geez, the game _really_ hates unassigned, huh?
@Patashu
@Patashu Жыл бұрын
I like how this is basically a mismatch of the consequences of some checks being 'if player is/isn't my team' versus 'if player is/isn't any other team'. It doesn't matter at all until you official support a third playable team, so none of these are 'bugs'. (Also, probably a lot of these are consequences of halloween/mvm type modes where you fight NPC enemies, and just picking whatever interaction made those modes work well.)
@asteroidrules
@asteroidrules 19 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly, basically all of these interactions come from different ways of various things checking what team someone is on. All of them function perfectly when the players involved are on valid teams, so this unexpected behavior isn't an issue as long as players stay on valid teams.
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen Жыл бұрын
I think some custom MVM missions have used this for gray robots hostile to both regular teams. EDIT: Specifically, gray robots hostile to the red team and to the regular robots.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 Жыл бұрын
Its how it should be story wise too, i wonder why valve didnt use this mixef with boss truce mechanic for MvM. Probably for simplicity coding the mode.
@xanious3759
@xanious3759 Жыл бұрын
@@Kacpa2 iirc the story was playtesters kept trying to kill eachother so they just made everyone red
@liloak00
@liloak00 Жыл бұрын
@@Kacpa2 Valve's infamous play-testers got too confused at the concept of working with the opposite team color.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 Жыл бұрын
@@liloak00 Always those playtesters... Its why we cant have nice things. People can be friendly so often ingame i think people would get a hand of it, especially if it was to a point it is a comsetic difference and both teams can heal and buff each other in MvM.
@arran4285
@arran4285 Жыл бұрын
@@liloak00 I think some custom servers let the players be red or blue on the same team?
@YossarianAssyrian
@YossarianAssyrian Жыл бұрын
I remember hackers exploiting Team Unassigned on the PS3 version. They would punish regular players by forcing them onto that team, keeping them from joining another team or doing anything aside from disconnecting.
@agudgorl
@agudgorl Жыл бұрын
they would shit their pants if you forced host, noclipped out of spawn and stripped them of their godmode powers to terrorize the entire server lmao
@thatslegit
@thatslegit Жыл бұрын
I know im not the only one thinkin this, why tf was ps3 network toxic as hell? COD series had rage hackers for days, they purposely ddos littlebigplanet servers, they gate kept a lot of obscure game titles like lost planet and soulcalibur, constantly did facebook scams in inbox
@agudgorl
@agudgorl Жыл бұрын
@@thatslegit Yikes...
@freedustin
@freedustin Жыл бұрын
@Thats Legit Sony begged for it. Do not tempt Linux fanatics. And definitely don't lock out their OS after you used it being able to install and run on the console as a major selling point.
@agudgorl
@agudgorl Жыл бұрын
@@freedustin I mean, fair. Doesn't mean they have to ruin the experience for others though.
@sunbuYT
@sunbuYT Жыл бұрын
So interesting, because this feels like a "Neutral party" that doesn't care about team Red's or Blu's feeble goals. Their priorities are above your comprehension
@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge
@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge Жыл бұрын
Gray Mann finally decided to hire his own mercenaries
@ihavenoidea598
@ihavenoidea598 Жыл бұрын
@@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge He did hire TF classic team in the comics.
@L3X1N
@L3X1N Жыл бұрын
Unassigned engineer, in particular, seems to have goals beyond anyone's understanding.
@greentg10
@greentg10 Жыл бұрын
his goal is to end the game by stalemate only he wins
@darksoulsismycity
@darksoulsismycity Жыл бұрын
imagine the lore for the mysterious and legendary unassigned engineer with his blue sentry that kills his own master and has a truce with red team and his blue teleporter that telefrags itself
@EmilyTestAccount
@EmilyTestAccount Жыл бұрын
In TFC there were 4 teams - but you could actually assign players to "teams" 5,6,7 and so on via memory edits/editing mods. One of the teams would give you the text "FOR 5 SECONDS" as the team name, as it's overflowing a read in string table. Beyond 6 or so you would just crash the server and every single connected player. Simpler times.
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 5 ай бұрын
teams are RED, GRN, BLU, YLW and FOR 5 SECONDS
@AlienSoldier69
@AlienSoldier69 Ай бұрын
COULD YOU STOP USING THE FORBIDDEN TEAMS FOR 5 SECONDS
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy this cursed 4th team and its blursed neutral mechanics. Excited to see what people will do with this new found knowledge for cursed gamemodes.
@Casperr
@Casperr Жыл бұрын
A lot of these "make sense" especially with the if not red then blu logic. But the flare gun range thing? Wtf is going on there?
@Max-xc6ug
@Max-xc6ug Жыл бұрын
nutsack
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 Жыл бұрын
Same check for team colour passthrough makes it break apparently.
@Underqualified_Gunman
@Underqualified_Gunman Жыл бұрын
I suspect the flaregun passthrough is just a case of the code defaults to blu if its not red.
@DevvieShining
@DevvieShining Жыл бұрын
I'd actually like to see an extra clip of this. At 2:10 or so, to me it looked more like it could damage an already on-fire player, but the first hit on BLU that did damage was only after RED's fire went out. Could just be coincidence, but some extra testing would be interesting. EDIT: Nevermind me, at 4:46 a similar thing happens and my hypothesis is destroyed. It really is due to range for BLU.
@trickster721
@trickster721 Жыл бұрын
Internally there must be two different checks that are used depending on the distance, and they happen to give opposite results. For whatever reason, there's a transition from one section of code to another after a certain distance or amount of time passes. My guess would be that it's the point where the game stops checking to make sure that the flare doesn't collide with the person that just shot it.
@scagwithanuke
@scagwithanuke Ай бұрын
0:01 team bread
@ChesterManfred
@ChesterManfred Жыл бұрын
Are you telling me, that the sentries, after being made existent in this plane by the engineer, instantly regret their choices and start killing him?
@dovahkat9635
@dovahkat9635 Жыл бұрын
Unassigned engineer chose not to include the 3 laws of robotics in his sentry. And then the sentry chose violence.
@bobkinect5254
@bobkinect5254 Жыл бұрын
3:41 damn sonic, why you slapping the Halloween bosses like that?
@spa7
@spa7 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes sonic the hedgehog
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 Жыл бұрын
At last, the fourth team; General Renovation Engineering Yard Or maybe Professional Renovation Planning League
@Adriethyl
@Adriethyl 3 ай бұрын
Grey (or maybe Gray, eh?) is the obvious choice, but I like PRPL being the only team with a four letter acronym.
@commenter_HIMIK-MAN
@commenter_HIMIK-MAN Жыл бұрын
5:02 top 10 anime betrayals
@seronymus
@seronymus Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos yet. A couple points: 1. The purple Monoculus effects made me realize it's like a compromise against RED and BLU. 2. You should test a modded server where one team is Unassigned (but with PRP 🟪 textures). This stuff is so delicious to me, nice work Shounic san.
@astroboy512
@astroboy512 Жыл бұрын
Nice catch on the purple color :)
@Hombzy
@Hombzy Жыл бұрын
All the halloween creatures having different bizarre rules is so on point for spaghetti code
@TF2Legacy
@TF2Legacy Жыл бұрын
This is actually what I stumbled upon years ago on VHS servers. Where I type in joinclass Spy without choosing teams, I spawn in as a blu Spy that could kill RED and damage Hale. Was nuts.
@clamoringrisotto
@clamoringrisotto Жыл бұрын
i'm imagining a 3-team gamemode (no idea what map it'd work in) where you can play as unassigned and get to spawn in halloween NPCs to compensate for their jank
@flextape467
@flextape467 Жыл бұрын
Gravel pit may work
@wideMac7
@wideMac7 Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming it wouldn't work but since the halloween bosses share team unassigned I was wondering if medic could heal them in any capacity. Otherwise, really cool video and impressive amount of testing.
@otne1
@otne1 Жыл бұрын
this could work since they are possibly just made the same way training bots are just heavily edited logic
@Flashyface
@Flashyface Жыл бұрын
@@otne1im pretty sure they arent and are nextbots (the same system used for the skeletons and the zombies in l4d2)
@Underqualified_Gunman
@Underqualified_Gunman Жыл бұрын
​@@otne1 the halloween bosses and skeletons are npcs if i remember right like youd see in hl2.
@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge
@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge Жыл бұрын
@@Underqualified_Gunman No skeletons are nextbots, that's why you can kill them even if you are in team unassigned. I'm also pretty sure every other halloween npcs are also nextbots.
@redstonewarrior0152
@redstonewarrior0152 Жыл бұрын
​@@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge Small flaw in your logic. You can hurt the skeletons while unassigned but you can't damage the bosses while unassigned. For your argument for the bosses being nextbots to make sense would require the bosses to be capable of being damaged by an unassigned player.
@thinkublu
@thinkublu Жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny that you can see why most of these things work like this too, there's just a bunch of different ways to code things to work with the enemy/allied team, especially assuming there's only red and blu
@coilingeat5602
@coilingeat5602 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Shounic! More tf2 code videos are much appreciated!
@TheSquareEngineer
@TheSquareEngineer Жыл бұрын
Actually you can create a unassigned building via commands,they will work exactly as shown
@EriDreemurr
@EriDreemurr Жыл бұрын
about unassigned, there's a random dice roll regarding ragdolls of the unassigned team, that makes tf2 client crash, it's somehow related to materials loading function, with that said you can trigger the crash by using the dead ringer or just dying, maybe it's also related to hats
@Tsuki_On_Paws
@Tsuki_On_Paws Жыл бұрын
I'm really curious as to how the Halloween Boss truce interacts with the unassigned team...
@emmetstanevich2121
@emmetstanevich2121 Жыл бұрын
Considering the "unassigned" team is also used for the holloween bosses, I'd assume unassigned players are treated the same way, and are unaffected by the truce
@moronribbons5774
@moronribbons5774 Жыл бұрын
3:49 Finally after all these years, soldier and merasmus made up
@user-lh7mt7zo7l
@user-lh7mt7zo7l Жыл бұрын
Team unassigned reminds me of modded PS3 days where you could make a bind to set someone to team unassigned which wouldn't allow them to select a class and would force them to leave the server unless they had a team change bind which is good for targeting some modders. You could also target buildings to make them destroyable by any team.
@CCheukKa
@CCheukKa Жыл бұрын
So does the third degree work across team? Say if a red medic is healing a disguised blue spy and an unassigned pyro axed them?
@LyuSapphire
@LyuSapphire Жыл бұрын
...That genius theory needs to be tested and sounds amazing
@MyNamesNotLars1
@MyNamesNotLars1 Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's a lot of potential with this to be used for TTT in TF2.
@idkimjustadude
@idkimjustadude Жыл бұрын
I remember this happening to me in an idle server. I had HTML MOTD off, and the server had a dumb thing where it was supposed to put you in spectator until you turned HTML back on. I don't know what happened then, but it put me on this team instead of spectator, and I did a little messing around with everyone else. Pretty fun bug, would do it again if I knew it still worked.
@MerkONeil
@MerkONeil Жыл бұрын
This is definitely the most "well duh" and "Wow! This is really interesting!" video I've seen from your channel. Keep up the great work man!
@TheOnePrinceMeatball
@TheOnePrinceMeatball Жыл бұрын
“Spec, Team Red and Team Blu. These are the only three teams in TF2.” Bars? 🔥
@Nic5Cyprus
@Nic5Cyprus Жыл бұрын
So Team Grey is canon
@NovaAge
@NovaAge Жыл бұрын
5:59 who will telefrag the teleporter?
@I_Hate_YouTube.
@I_Hate_YouTube. 8 ай бұрын
I'm wondering what part of the code makes the teleporter commit self destruct.
@matt.w
@matt.w 5 ай бұрын
​@@I_Hate_KZbin.Why do you hate KZbin?
@I_Hate_YouTube.
@I_Hate_YouTube. 5 ай бұрын
@@matt.w guess
@underpussy_
@underpussy_ Ай бұрын
I love automatic comment censoring!
@1lomi901
@1lomi901 Жыл бұрын
I love how everything is completely random here. You get a bit of both logics at the same time. And honestly, even as a dev, I have no idea how the hell that can happen. You would easily imagine there's are weird "rules" as each components are treated differently (aka spawn doors) But the flare hitting or not hitting close/long range vs red/blue hitbox detection is an absolute mystery. Even if you wanted, you would struggle to make up such rules ! Thanks for testing them all. Great stuff right there
@Zack_Wester
@Zack_Wester Жыл бұрын
probably a case of the arming distance for flare been broken. whit arming distance a distance anything need to fly before X can happen, Real life it can explode. TF2 mostly pass through friendly.
@Underqualified_Gunman
@Underqualified_Gunman Жыл бұрын
its probably just a case of when your not on red or blue the code defaults to one team then after having added over a hundred different weapons and you'll run into cases were the default was red for one weapon and vice versa.
@emmetstanevich2121
@emmetstanevich2121 Жыл бұрын
As explained at the end, it's most likely that the team check is binary, and assumes that if you aren't red, then you're blu, and vise-versa.
@TheGrayMann
@TheGrayMann Жыл бұрын
Great video, it was actually very fun to give you (alongside other chat members) ideas of what things to test, and it's good to see that everything made it through even as cliffnotes.
@zOOpygOOpert
@zOOpygOOpert Жыл бұрын
I could imagine this as some sort of "Purgatory" team for an Arena like mode, much like that halloween map where you become dispenser ghosts upon death. Maybe you'd be faced with significant de-buffs but if you can get a 3 killstreak you will be put on either Red or Blu.
@TheXBoy5
@TheXBoy5 Жыл бұрын
This would make a good team for admins and observers.
@CannonBallistic
@CannonBallistic Жыл бұрын
thats what spec is for lmao
@Acejinjo
@Acejinjo 11 ай бұрын
Think of it this way, they can join the fun while not actually being part Red or Blu.
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 3 ай бұрын
6:01 LMAO I DIDNT EXPECT THAT But this entire video is so interesting cuz how many things act differently, truly source spaghetti at its finest
@angzarrpsyco
@angzarrpsyco Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for a Vscript map to bring the unassigned team as an actual team Map Name: Neutrality
@redstonewarrior0152
@redstonewarrior0152 Жыл бұрын
Or call it Grayscale since neutral players show up grey in the killfeed and text chat.
@mendyshelios0451
@mendyshelios0451 Жыл бұрын
4:26 This is gonna create some "escape plan" alternative memes.
@diggles7015
@diggles7015 Жыл бұрын
Not quite the same, but Team Fortress Classic had a yellow and green team that were used on a couple of special four team maps. You could use the console as a spy to disguise as yellow/green on the standard red/blue maps... that was always fun.
@youaredednotbigsouprice5692
@youaredednotbigsouprice5692 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Did not expect there to be so many diffefent interesting interactions but thanks for researching it all
@delta4699
@delta4699 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most amazing things I've seen in this game, incredible job as always shounic!
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 Жыл бұрын
Imagine they used this to have some Event stuff where a random player would become some Mega Boss and get a boatload of buffs. Or some special map where unassigned had to try and abuse their weird spaghetti mechanics to force a stalemate.
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett Жыл бұрын
isn't that the saxton hale maps?
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 Жыл бұрын
@@s0nnyburnett Where does the spaghetti come in?
@ovaiggy
@ovaiggy Жыл бұрын
The first one is basically VSH.
@redstonewarrior0152
@redstonewarrior0152 Жыл бұрын
​@@s0nnyburnett Small problem. VS Hale has 2 teams. The red team and Saxton Hale. What is being suggested here has 3 teams. Red, blu, and Saxton Hale. Another thing, VS Hale sees the Red team trying to Kill the Hale and Hale trying to kill the Red team. This has the Red and Blu teams fighting over an objective while the Hale tries to keep both teams from completing the objective. Really, the only similarity between the suggestion put forth here and th VSH community gamemode is the fact that it's asymmetrical.
@redstonewarrior0152
@redstonewarrior0152 Жыл бұрын
​@@ovaiggy Small problem. VS Hale has 2 teams. The red team and Saxton Hale. What is being suggested here has 3 teams. Red, blu, and Saxton Hale. Another thing, VS Hale sees the Red team trying to Kill the Hale and Hale trying to kill the Red team. The original comment didn't actually say anything about the objective in the first part of the comment so I can't actually make a proper comparison there. But honestly, the only similarity between VSH and the first part of the comment is the fact that one player is put on a separate team from everyone else and is given a bunch of buffs to compensate.
@yojojo3000
@yojojo3000 Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if this was fleshed out some more, even if it’s inaccessible. Being a Jester of sorts and helping/harming whichever team you want (and being on Merasmus’ side during Halloween) would be such an interesting phenomenon to have available to us. I mean yeah, we can technically already do that to a degree, but being able to kill “teammates” and heal “enemies” would add another chaotic layer to it 😂
@22TwentyTwo
@22TwentyTwo Жыл бұрын
I think this is my favorite video so far, really interesting and I loved the presentation and tests demonstrations (Also soldier slapping monoculus frantically and screaming made me laugh more than it should've) Also really cool thumbnail!
@komodoshado2618
@komodoshado2618 Жыл бұрын
your videos are very informative and you explain things really well, love these
@TheKillfish
@TheKillfish Жыл бұрын
This has some interesting potential for a Red VS Blu VS Modified Unassigned (for balance and fixes, if at all possible). Like two team competitive VSH or MVM, or two teams fighting against eachother and a Halloween mob army "led" by a single, VSH-esque unassigned player. The creativity this could open if the jank is tamable and fixable is great.
@chrispy5249
@chrispy5249 Жыл бұрын
This gives me an idea for some sort of plugin. It fixes all the weird goofs unassigned players have and turn them into a third team that can't win the match. The unassigned team's entire purpose is to just annoy or bother RED and BLU or both at the same time.
@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 6 ай бұрын
Maybe make them neutrals who win on their own for staying alive the whole game with whatever team won.
@joachim4660
@joachim4660 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting! Good work, enjoyed it!
@ShockInazuma
@ShockInazuma Жыл бұрын
I think a pretty cool concept would be having Team Unassigned defend from Red/Blu trying to capture the points while they try to “unassign” other points.
@ItsYee64
@ItsYee64 Жыл бұрын
You should host another server again with this activated. It would be interesting to see what else could be found with this.
@keymacaroon-uh7kj
@keymacaroon-uh7kj Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if its possible due to Source's spaghetti code, but if someone manages to hijack the way unassigned team works people could make some pretty cool shit out of this.
@IsaacDaBoatSloth
@IsaacDaBoatSloth Жыл бұрын
maybe valve will make the class work "normally" so custom maps can use it
@FocusBoi453
@FocusBoi453 11 ай бұрын
It would be good like 3 team Red & Blue players Fight Unassigned player Red & Blue can damage eachother but there main objective it to stop unassigned player from destroying the world I had custom map idea name - Day of the Reckoning Gamemode -unknown Red & Blue spawn is seperate but they will lead path to the exit gray team which im call unassigned team as gray Will be running and hiding from them but if you dont kill them in the next 1:30m they will summon all the boss which is why i named this map "day of the reckoning" Might seem like "oh easy mode but if you dont kill them they will summon 'it' and it will be a massacre"
@zorpglorp
@zorpglorp Жыл бұрын
RACISM LORE 1:58
@Brackets_Guy
@Brackets_Guy Жыл бұрын
@shawnyewest
@shawnyewest Жыл бұрын
VERY cool video, great work!
@OneHundredFiftyTwo
@OneHundredFiftyTwo 10 ай бұрын
5:29 RACISM
@C.A._Old
@C.A._Old Жыл бұрын
*0:54** IT'S THAT O.W.B ? ! OUR WORLD NOW ?!*
@AliAlice3
@AliAlice3 4 ай бұрын
Damn this must've took so long to document, big props to shounic for this, this was really entertaining.
@maulmemes
@maulmemes Жыл бұрын
6:03 Tele-fragging unassigned players results in the *teleporter* dying. That made me laugh
@Collisto2435
@Collisto2435 Жыл бұрын
A fun quirk of the 4th team you can 'exploit' in game is to join a casual server during warmup, and simply don't do anything. When the game eventually starts, you'll be able to spectate Blu team members (and the bomb on payload) indefinitely, and you'll appear as a dead blu team member on the scoreboard and in the chat.
@elfascisto6549
@elfascisto6549 Жыл бұрын
4:13 yes, my favorite samurai jack villain; aputator
@SeanIsSuperFunny
@SeanIsSuperFunny 21 күн бұрын
This comment is like 1 year old but it still nade me laugh
@wolfcl0ck
@wolfcl0ck Жыл бұрын
Genuinely one of the coolest vids you've done in my opinion
@inkmime
@inkmime Жыл бұрын
Your Gaben sentence mixes just keep getting better and better
@BenutzerWalter
@BenutzerWalter Жыл бұрын
A clear example of discrimination against the unassigned community smh
@Marisu_Prada
@Marisu_Prada Жыл бұрын
Who would've thought team UNS owned so much of the map before any of the teams showed up
@Lucystanford
@Lucystanford Жыл бұрын
Drawing up the creepypasta rn for the unassigned team
@GunSpyEnthusiast
@GunSpyEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
for the sentry, i think the code for team unassinged uses red teams code for some things, blu teams code for somethings, and non team specific things for some things. for instance, the code for one variable says they are on red, whilst another says they are on team blu. the targeting code for the sentry just checks if the target is on the same team as the sentry, and fires if they are not. the code for the sentries coloring uses the same varible that the display player in the bottom left uses for team color, or both default to blu when it hasn't been updated to red or blu. the code for setting what team the sentry is on uses the same variable that the builder uses for their model. and the code for if the bullets do damege hurts all that are on team red if its team is blu, and hurts all on team blu if its red, excluding the builder, who is allways hurt. so, the coloring thinks its on team blu, the code for setting the sentry team thinks its on team red, and the targeting code thinks that the builder isnt on the team the sentry is, fires, and the builder gets hurt, whilst the builders team isnt hurt, but is targeted, and players on team blu are hurt and targeted. keep in mind im an idoit.
@soupernpc1196
@soupernpc1196 Жыл бұрын
can unassigned medic heal npcs?
@Luka-bt2ve
@Luka-bt2ve Ай бұрын
4:01 Watch the video mate
@TheRealAndersonCooper
@TheRealAndersonCooper Ай бұрын
@@Luka-bt2ve he means the Halloween NPCs
@suomixit2222
@suomixit2222 Жыл бұрын
This could be a fun concept for a necromancer/wizard gamemode where it's a normal blu vs. red match but every once in a while the top score player gets auto-balanced to unassigned and gets random halloween spells over time while being able to spawn skeletons with a cooldown.
@The_D_ray
@The_D_ray Жыл бұрын
Team Unassigned is basically the Mercenary Faction from Stalker. They are either friendly or hostile according to whatever the fuck their mind is up to.
@HuntMeDown237
@HuntMeDown237 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'd LOVE to see a long ass video of the quirks behind the unassigned team. It's so funny seeing the things we've never known about this beautiful shit show of a game
@Mabra51
@Mabra51 Жыл бұрын
5:03 _BETRAYAL_
@ISuperYoloI
@ISuperYoloI Жыл бұрын
Honestly a gamemode like this would be cool, like an event of reality breaking and stuff
@davidi171
@davidi171 Жыл бұрын
On tf2 dodgeball you could abuse the unassigned team to spawn into red or blue team even when a match was already running and some players already died. For example you could join when it was left to a 1v1. If I remember correctly, you join a server, but don't choose any team and also don't join spec, then wait for a map change, then join spectator, and then join red or blue and you would spawn in instantly. Useful for helping the winning team win even more, or for getting lots of kills if you join the losing team.
@amanammer
@amanammer Жыл бұрын
this is very intresesting but makes perfect sense!
@spa7
@spa7 Жыл бұрын
Purple rocket
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Жыл бұрын
Purple crocket!
@_rukeen34
@_rukeen34 Жыл бұрын
Lean Crocket
@dupdig
@dupdig Жыл бұрын
Would looking at these interactions in a build that predates stuff like Halloween and other npc uses of the unassigned team be likely to have any interesting effects?
@--cob--
@--cob-- 6 ай бұрын
6:01 "the teleporter will have an heart attack" best line i've ever heard
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 Жыл бұрын
This is really cool!
@blob5907
@blob5907 Жыл бұрын
3:25 hellas horseman who is that?
@Micha-Hil
@Micha-Hil Жыл бұрын
i thought that team unassigned would be a yellow class, turns out i was wrong
@X_mezo_X
@X_mezo_X Жыл бұрын
Memories of this glitch back in UGC servers that set your team to spectator without killing you (technically putting you in unassigned) , oh boy i remember the chaos that happened during those times, another side effect it had at the time was that if you did it with a revved up minigun, it would stay revved up but you'd run in the normal heavy walking speed, and oh boy did it cause unassigned heavies (especially with brass beast) to wreck havoc upon everyone on the server.
@sillylittlepyro
@sillylittlepyro Жыл бұрын
Heavy update gets revealed if you do
@Alxium
@Alxium Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the 4-team gamemode in TF2 Classic. I wish that someone could make a vscript map/gamemode that allows for more than 2 teams. It would result in some interesting shenanigans!
@GunSpyEnthusiast
@GunSpyEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
i think for things for when they treat blu and red team diferently as team unassingned, the code most likely has multiple variables for team checking, and some variables are left as default, whilst others are set to a default. i think the reason why somethings like the flaregun being unable to hit people on the blu team at close range is because the code for damege asks if the player is a different team than the target, and the code for rockets going through teammates used a varible that isnt set to update with unassinged players/was set to only interact if blu guy shoot blu, or red guy shoot red, so it sees the target as an enemy, explodes, but the damage isnt done because its a team member.
@Shadierspider5e
@Shadierspider5e Жыл бұрын
I'm seeing possibilities for some fun juggernaut modes where team unassigned has a pyro with only a axe and 10000 health and the other teams must deal more damage or capture points to win
@Aluler
@Aluler Жыл бұрын
4:32 spy was thinking things
@TheGhostThatWas
@TheGhostThatWas Жыл бұрын
7:25 you wrote r/b sentries wont attack unassigned despite showing otherwise earlier in the video
@shounic
@shounic Жыл бұрын
oops
@haja.
@haja. Жыл бұрын
oops
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 3 ай бұрын
Oops
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