There's something different about this one... - AYANEO Pocket DMG & Micro

[@ShortCircuit]

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[@srgarathnor]

and now buy the retroid pocket 5/mini and get an anbernic 40xxV

[@MyNameisStorm]

"Affordably manufactured", definitely using that instead of "cheap" from now on.

[@user-neo71665]

Too bad affordably manufacturing doesn't mean affordably priced.

[@blunderingfool]

Or affordably durable. (From a design perspective.)

[@brucepreston3927]

I literally had the exact same thought! lol

[@johnboyinfl]

Came here looking for this comment. 👍

[@harveycreekin]

"He's an affordably manufactured bastard!" Yeah, that works... 😂

[@Deado]

Ayaneo's products always pique my interest... then I remember the price and the fact that they don't get support anymore like 3 months after release...

[@moldyshishkabob]

It's why I'll never buy an Ayaneo, frankly. I always am interested in a handheld, but I can never justify a purchase.

[@Deado]

@moldyshishkabob I think that the Steam Deck and its popular competitors are the best options for a handheld. I love my Z1 Extreme Ally, but it's certainly not for everyone, especially for the price.

[@sacredeyes3508]

​​@@moldyshishkabobjust get a psvita to be honest. It can emulate most 2d games and PS1 and PSP and n64

[@zuggal]

what would you need support for exactly?

[@judjdigj]

Some of them do. Some line-up got 8840u refresh, and on November both 2s and Air 1s got their modern sleep bios update. Now in Linux they can sleep just like a Steam Deck!

[@ColorblindMonk]

The Pocket DMG is a just total mismatch of features and cost. It's got overkill specs while lacking the inputs to comfortably play beyond a certain console gen, and the price point is too high to justify playing Game Boy games on it.

[@jesseinfinite]

yea make no sense why you'd make a powerhouse machine and then not include two thumbsticks. You straight up can't play 3d games.

[@HyperSonic1999orJTH]

​@@jesseinfinite Games that rely on dual sticks the majority of the time like fps games would be a issue, however games made with single stick in mind or don't use right stick too much would play just fine. The PS2 GTA games come to mind as they don't need the right stick since you can just hold the L1 button lock the camera behind your character when running around.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

if you wanna play gba games, there are like 12 other handhelds that are sub 70 bucks for it

[@sherlockowiec1693]

@@jesseinfinite You can. The empty space next to the thumbstick is a trackpad.

[@ccricers]

@@marcusborderlands6177 And there's the soon to be released the RG 34XX which looks a lot like an original GBA

[@DukeTwitch]

Genshin Impact still doesn't support gamepads on Android. Mihoyo hates Android users.

[@evanfowler5175]

And PC users, there's still no unlocked frame limiter!

[@madness1931]

@@evanfowler5175 It's more likely that the game was poorly made. Something like if the game wasn't frame capped, it'd brake some mechanics.

[@RahN01]

@@madness1931 Pretty sure that's not true. For pc anyways there has been a third party tool to unlock or set frame rate for a while now, though i don't think they allow it and can get you banned.

[@Xfade81]

these handhelds all have keymappers with profiles for this game

[@WarkolakA]

@@madness1931 iOS has 120 fps

[@unrealed]

"ok it's a weird phone. It can't even take a sim card." Neither does my iPhone

[@Al_Lergic]

I think you mean iPod Touch.

[@khulhucthulhu9952]

​@Al_Lergic nah, recent iPhones don't have sim card slots anymore, they've gone to eSIM only

[@Al_Lergic]

@@khulhucthulhu9952 Wow I didn't know such a thing existed. I still use a 2G sim card.

[@SuperDerek]

put in a microphone and a SIM card slot, I'd make this my next phone upgrade. As is, that's a tough sell.

[@gilbertplays]

So basically you want a phone and not a handheld console

[@hadengibbons3539]

I wouldn't mind a controller style case too lol

[@acasualmusiclistener7919]

They want both obv ​@@gilbertplays

[@gothfalcon]

Linus trying to play Genshin Impact as though they actually had controller support. They still haven't released on Switch or given controller support to Android even though they are several years in and promised a Switch release on launch

[@Ryan-McLaughlin]

It does have controller support as it's available on Xbox and PlayStation, Nintendo isn't the only console manufacturer lol.

[@Daxelman]

​@@Ryan-McLaughlinnot on android, only on iOS

[@fatfurie]

@@Daxelman thats probably why he didnt mention android.. and while not "supported" you can still get a controller to work.

[@Skylancer727]

What's even more cruel, they have a playstation version and PC supports both Xbox and Playstation controllers natively.

[@gothfalcon]

@@Skylancer727 For me the worst part is that they promised Switch version before launch and the last update was that it is still in development, but they launched the Xbox version before the Switch version

[@Void0Void]

Bro had Vimm's lair open for them roms 😂😂

[@chaser7879]

Hey they "own" those games, no need to worry!

[@jaybee-f9x]

@@chaser7879even if they don’t it doesn’t matter lmao

[@fishinghobo]

Shhhh dont let the lawyers hear about it

[@deluge6479]

​@@fishinghobonobody cares lol if they did it would've been shut down. I bet you're the type to be scared to download pirated PC games because you think the FBI is gonna kick your door down 😂

[@fishinghobo]

@@deluge6479 no, I just dont want more games removed from it. Nintendo already had a lot of their games taken down from vimms

[@pinchofdoom]

I feel like FPGA vs Emulation accuracy is MASSIVELY overstated. FPGA accuracy is excellent, but for most of the consoles targeted by current FPGA handhelds, there are already emulators with near if not perfect accuracy. I have asked multiple people, and looked online, but I have yet to see a point where the newest, most accurate emulators fall behind something like a Analogue Pocket.

[@jimktrains0]

In theory an fpga could be more power efficient than an emulator or a generic CPU.

[@MaruluVR]

A emulator can never be perfectly accurate no matter how good the PC or emulator. This is for a simple reason, old consoles have multiple chips doing things in parallel, while emulators work in sequence not in parallel. Throw enough cores and speed at it and it will seem like the original but there will always be differences in timing to the original machines. The real question is is this difference worth it, and for most people thats most likely a no.

[@Rickles]

​@@jimktrains0Analogue Pocket doesn't get outstanding Battery life though. It's in line with all the cheap emulation stuff. I'm going to try something with Onion OS. My three things are from factor, battery, and UI. My steam deck is great but I'm gonna try a Miyoo Mini Plus for something more packable. I wish there were more devices in wide format like a GBA.

[@BriBCG]

FPGA is for people who are really picky. Their accuracy is NOT overstated, it's just unnecessary for most people.

[@benwright1871]

FPGA is for speed runners and people who spend big on old CRT's for the most authentic experience. I think the versatility of Android and Linux handhelds at their price point makes them a far better option for 99.87% of people, especially when you add in game streaming via Moonlight.

[@TheJoshuaJames]

It really needs to be a phone for the price of the good color. I actually mean that though, I would love to have this as my phone, but it's just too much $$$ for an emulator when the steam deck is the same price, maybe if it had a slide out keyboard

[@TheJoshuaJames]

I really do love this category of device and look forward to more of these videos. I'm super excited about the RP5

[@microbuilder]

You can almost hear Nintendos lawyers lol

[@SimonBauer7]

yeah Nintendo needs to get put back in their place by the eu or some other commitee because its getting out of hand.

[@sligit]

Seems that LTT are baiting them. It seems like they show Nintendo games every time they cover emulation. I'm here for it :D

[@TheMangerChild]

​@@sligit I didn't even think about the when watching. I love that lol

[@Zvxers7]

They will drop support in 2 months max

[@anonymoususerinterface]

Is that something ayaneo is known for?

[@Fran-kc2gu]

Thats why you buy them for what they're today and not in the future

[@OnizukaBlum1o]

I bought an Aya Neo Pocket Air last year. It's the worst selling android handheld they've maze and yet I still get regular updates. A few years ago they seemed to be bad with update policy but since they grew bigger they've expanded on that a lot. So my first hand experience is that they're pretty good with updates.

[@GangityBirdity]

​@@anonymoususerinterfaceNot necessarily. They're just known for constantly releasing new devices so when you buy one there might always be a slightly better one with better support around the corner

[@zaccary14]

@@anonymoususerinterfaceit’s the only thing they’re known for actually

[@jimmerseiber]

This is why I can't justify paying these prices for android retro handhelds. They are basically phones and so much set up. Linux handhelds, even dual os, for cheap all the way.

[@dgevert]

Linus, get your hands on the new Retroid Pocket devices. They blow these out of the water for a lot less (yes the DMG is more powerful but in that form factor, it's a complete waste.) The Retroid Pocket 5's screen is so good it almost looks fake.

[@enderspider5001]

When a steam deck is 400 dollars, its quite hard for anything to stand out anymore. These seem like the bigges waste of money ever

[@Rookysmasher]

Technically this is like for the nerds(me) but i feel they will drop support on the product very soon. Cool fidgety thing tho

[@emilypeters8888]

Come on Linus lc and Rc, left click and right click

[@holidaymail]

Glad I'm not the only one that thought that haha

[@mintbourbon]

Way too overpriced for these, I’ll stick with my Anbernic RG35XXSP for around $60 or if I want something with more power I’ll get a second hand Steam Deck for $300

[@jaybee-f9x]

Yeah but then you lose the pocket-ability and form factor. Thats the entire reason for this device lol, someone who wants to play every console and still have it be small enough to carry around.

[@icarusDaBoi]

Bro, steam decks are crazy expensive second hand. You can practically double your money when you sell, it's insane.

[@Bob_Smith19]

A version of the Odin 2 is the logical step for an emulation handheld. It’s not a handheld PC but it’s powerful enough to run up to PS2.

[@manhealme]

Retroid's Pocket 5 is now the Goldilocks of retro handhelds now, with its amoled screen and sd865 which can go up to PS2 and even Wii u while having the screen to body ratio I've seen I think category

[@Festivus_Miracle]

@@icarusDaBoi Locally I can buy a Steam Deck (even an OLED) for $200-250 on Marketplace. They're not expensive.

[@hunbenny]

"So what does RC do? Remote Controll perhaps?" Let me help you Linus. Perhaps RC stands for Right Control, and LC stands for Left Control? :D

[@CellPhish]

I’m glad I’m not the only reviewer who couldn’t figure out what the Micro buttons all do. It seems they do different things in different scenarios or nothing at all

[@GetIrked]

0:15 "It has more in common with a phone than pretty much ANYTHING else..." Gameboy (1989): "What chu talkin' about, Linus????"

[@juniperpansy]

Linus is too young to know about such things

[@SnarkyRaccoon]

I wish they showed the Pocket Micro playing something more modern

[@charliepettigrew2818]

7:23 that's a genshin problem, the android version doesn't have controller support for some reason

[@Mighty_MU]

8:7 is the aspect ratio of the SNES, though some games were developed with being displayed at 4:3 in mind and compensated. Still an odd aspect ratio to use, but not unheard of.

[@RockYoMomsWorld]

The pocket dmg is actually 31 : 27, definitely a very strange aspect ratio, but kind of a happy medium to accommodate pretty much every aspect ratio. Especially with the oled display since the pixels will be off effectively turning the screen into any other aspect ratio

[@bugra3sby]

Maybe RC: right click, LC: left click for curser?

[@tyron23]

A good thing to review would be the Retroid Pocket 5. I've got the pocket 4 and it's honestly amazing.

[@gandalfilgrigio97]

no matter how good this is, 500$ is just too much for a phone with a gameboy case

[@Chex_Mex]

Yup, at that point you'd just buy a steam deck

[@wxzxloo]

@@Chex_MexCan you fit a steam deck in ur pocket?

[@EggplantHarmesan]

​@@wxzxloo mine fits in my pockets just fine

[@wxzxloo]

@@EggplantHarmesan 😂😂😂

[@crabnix]

The thing is, those top of the line snapdragon chips are expensive. And it has an OLED screen. Yes I also understand that a steam deck has better performance and also an OLED screen for less money, steam can sell you the console for less profit because they will make up for it in game sales.

[@Marc.Google]

11:08 Linus, you represent kids across the world!

[@Stape_Playshion]

Oh my gosh, how many of these freaking devices do they release!?!. I keep seeing a new one every week!

[@madness1931]

When you got cheap labour (potentially slave/re-education), little/no long term software support, and just stealing everyone else's ideas/R&D, you'd be surprised how quickly you can make a product.

[@tomcatbeatz]

ayaneo micro: thick for a controller Linus' fingers: short for fingers

[@jeskoumm]

“did you see the Game Awards….Linus, I can’t believe a notification did not appear on my feed….instead I am watching you talk about Nintendo’s first 🍷 at the smartphone market, after buying cutting-edge BlackBerry patents from twenty years ago”

[@franzstubers2327]

"Affordably manufactured metal mug" 🤣

[@cogspace]

Man, I've been wanting an Android gaming handheld that DOES pull double duty as a phone and I was so excited someone had finally made one... *sigh* what a tease. I keep waiting for the N-Gage that should have been.

[@LutraLovegood]

Very unlikely to happen.

[@koerel]

I'm not touching another Ayaneo product ever again. Got the Air 1S on launch and expected a premium product, but what I got felt like an engineering sample. Mushy buttons that almost get stuck when you press them, constant popping from the speakers (the speakers themselves are also absolute dogs**t), a crooked USB-C connector and a completely botched Windows installation that made the whole thing unusable until I reinstalled everything from scratch, which was a headache in and of itself.

[@tams805]

Yep. I'm not touching something from these Chinese OEMs again. I've been burnt every single time. And yet people like to call you racist if you point out their poor quality and support.

[@ivangerginov5648]

@@tams805 Aren't they all made in China anyways?

[@watisvaccen]

8:25 SCOOT THE BUUUUURBS, SCOOT THE BUUUURBS 🎶

[@Artista_Frustrado]

funny that this & Wulfden's review of the DMG dropped on the same day

[@everythinginbetween4440]

Not having a second analogue stick on the more expensive device has really confused me on its selling point compared to the micro. Definitely a backwards step for that device for me as I'd want to play dual analogue games too. Did they just forget or something?

[@brendanarmstrong7802]

The RC button probably doesn't work because you were sent these as review samples. On the final device, it would normally use the credit card used to purchase the device (or one set up later on your account) and order a case of delicious, refreshing RC Cola. It returns to the home screen in order to launch the RC delivery app, where you can see your soda delivered to you in real time.

[@cerellitv2978]

Video Idea: No power brick? Buy these instead! With all the fancy equipment at the lab this should be easy!*

[@manuelh.4147]

Nothing expresses your personality like a differently colored joystick on some gaming handheld.

[@cirmothe9]

I don't know why the staff installed genshin impact but didn't bother to tell linus that gamepad isn't supported on that game. It's not a fault of the device.

[@lardboy7431]

So much for a tech expert, not working out RC/LC being left click/right click

[@TheAEKaBeer]

Love my cheap r36s and was thinking of upgrading to something like this. But, i was recently given an old pocco x3pro which is more than powerful enough for android emulation.

[@SpiritOfTheHeretic]

Playing Melee on a gameboy-sized handheld is the future we need

[@John-19k20]

02:05 I think the text means you can buy - or make your own - others on their website or something.

[@millardlovejoy4951]

I would love the DMG one but damn that price the Micro is expensive too but is a little more reasonable I would maybe buy a micro

[@mangahacker]

Please review some of the new clamshell devices. I just miss the 3ds.

[@atomicgearworks]

We need an in depth roundup of these handheld Android emulation machines. It's becoming a competitive market.

[@LutraLovegood]

It's been competitive for a while. Retro Game Corps made it his bread and butter.

[@electrikoptik]

Price @ 11:58 No, thank you!

[@Lackari]

Yeah for that price, just get a Steam Deck for real ...

[@damiengrief]

I bought one of these when I first saw some reviews come out. Yes it's expensive, but the base model (which is what I bought) is cheaper at $350 and you don't really sacrifice much. Ayaneo's devices always interested me I love the idea of a super premium handheld that can be my endgame. This seems to be that. While I'd prefer a 2nd joystick, I don't think I'd want to be doing any FPS games or Switch games on here anyway despite the power available due to the screen aspect ratio. Hasn't shipped yet, but I'm really looking forward to getting my DMG in the mail soon.

[@LutraLovegood]

Plenty of games use the second stick to move the camera or something else.

[@TetraSky]

As far as pricing goes... As least the RAM and storage upgrades are cheaper than whatever Apple thinks it's worth.

[@jameslewis2635]

The thing is I would want the power of the DMG in the form factor of the Micro.

[@DyoGTS]

It is an interesting device, but there was no talk about bluetooth controller support or video out - I assume it doesn't support it?

[@Rafaelba93]

You should show the Retroid Pocket 5 or the Odin Portal

[@AnthonnyTag]

Better title idea btw: "They put a modern smartphone chip inside a gameboy" or something along those lines (coming from the WAN show talking about this.)

[@Furrfino]

2:45 Linus the torta enjoyer

[@zulfathly]

I really hope that these game-form factor devices are also tested with streaming platforms such as xbox remote play. How does it feel like playing modern games by streaming in a retro style gaming form factor.

[@aikdeveneijns112]

Am I the only one who sees a little Unbox Therapy homage in the opening shot?

[@Z4KIUS]

active cooling is a dealbreaker NEXT

[@alistairblaire6001]

That price makes an already niche device have an even smaller audience 😅

[@BullFrog-dg9bg]

I wish these were cell phones.

[@-B.H.]

Do these have a cell radio? They might not have a physical SIM but can they do eSIM? Were you guys talking about a SIM/eSIM in general?

[@Chrish1981]

Always the lion king lol, one of the hardest snes games ever 😂😂

[@alkoyyy]

Is RC/LC Right Click and Left Click maybe?

[@JayrosModShop]

The Pocket DMG's shell, screen, and buttons are VERY "Analogue Pocket inspired".

[@anthonylipke7754]

I think 3:2 is a good ratio depending on the pixels for scaling and if it does 720 or 1080 well.

[@hmoham]

So explain to me why AYANEO only put in one analogue stick on the more powerful device that will emulate 3D titles that make use of modern controls better than the device with two analogue sticks? I'd have expected it to be the other way around. I get the feeling they chose retro looks over funtionality here, shame as that Ayoneo GB clone looks like a great device let down by the controls.

[@LOLHICRONO]

SNES is 8:7 aspect ratio btw :)

[@mishmishb]

seems weird to me the more powerful of the two is the one with only a single analogue stick...

[@mayukhsengupta6628]

A video without a crave rave is like a Linus without beard. Oh wait...

[@SnapquesterMage]

Showing footage of Nintendo property games on an emulated decide is BRAVE..... 😮

[@gobsrk]

Please do retroid pocket 5 pls

[@carwynvan]

With everything that happened to Retro Game Corpes, how long until Nintendo hit this video with a copyright strike for showing Nintendo IP on the screen? 😅

[@OhHaiJosh]

Nintendo's lawyers are getting the choppers ready

[@pjlietz]

So wait, why the heck in 2024 can't my phone be an 'updated' gameboy!

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

“Affordably manufactured”, I’m going to use this to stab at luxury products now

[@bri83]

Anbernic gx35xx plus literally cost me £30 on Ali express and does everything that does up to ps1 and Dreamcast and also looks like a game boy. They build is nice though but Christ that price

[@fatfurie]

im so confused by the aspect ratio they chose. 500!??!!? every time i see one of these i get excited and then the price makes me go to back to a modded VITA or psp.

[@SlippyJos]

"can do ps2 games" glad i got to see that lol

[@GemoryGame]

Uh-oh Linus... get ready to review and compare the hundreds of other emulating handhelds. this is your life now.

[@ingusmant]

I was hoping for an fpga analogue competitor

[@gregor2436]

I would love a phone in such a form factor.

[@VELI-Productions]

Can’t believe they emulated Mario on camera, that is BOLD nowadays lol.

[@dialectish]

Nah as long as it's not a switch Nintendo doesn't care.

[@LockeTheCole]

Why would one want these over the Analogue Pocket at that cost?

[@treepizzle]

I think you would love the retroid pocket 5. Oled. Great power. $220. No brainer device.

[@puntodelectura]

Or, hear me out, you can get a controller for your phone and it's automatically the same thing. Or better if anything, 'cause you can get one with improved ergonomics for a fraction of the cost.

[@wxzxloo]

I got the pocket micro, it’s really great!!

[@FINNIUSORION]

holy crap. there's great retro handheld's for less than $100 all over the place.

[@CONM0S]

Yeah if you wants PS1 or older, the RG35XX series is amazing. Especially the RG35XXH with its dual thumbsticks. This is just silly.

[@ben-tendo]

If you want a retro handheld with the same chipset but a better screen and control scheme go for the Odin 2

[@Ninja1up]

Affordably manufactured has me dead

[@LiveErrors]

Android consoles isn't even a novel thing though

[@Chris-rg6nm]

Starting at $450 for that is insane

[@o2plays126]

Omg can't believe u got Stephen hawking to introduce the sponsor

[@xXlURMOMlXx]

I don't understand the point of the standalone "retro handhelds" when we already have phones. That being said I would love a phone with a physical controller

[@LutraLovegood]

Phones don't come with physical controls, sometimes don't even have SD slots or 3.5 jack. Some of those handhelds cost less than the cost of a first party controller or phone controller. Having a separate handheld doesn't use the battery of your phone. You can run windows or linux on them sometimes, or a dedicated emulation OS. Etc.

[@digitalmike330]

Let me introduce you to the next Mattel Electronic Football game...2024 Edition.

[@TeamSevenStar]

"clicky touch pad" was an instant no for me. that would get so gunked up over time

[@Fulgur98]

wish you would have shown modern mobile games on the pocket version! Thats what I want to know if its good at also

[@jatoxo]

Would have really wanted to see the Micro run some intensive PS2 games to judge the performance