I challenged Top 500 Streamers to a Widowmaker 1v1 in Overwatch 2 w/ reactions

[@TheRealKenzo]

40% GMG Performance Blue Light Glasses: go.gmg-performance.com/kenzo for the next 48 hours!

[@zylr]

stuck in 360p

[@alyssiab1305]

Second

[@FishPogx]

Honestly bro don't promote scams like this

[@zylr]

@@FishPogx i’m not i’m saying the vid is only available in 360p

[@FishPogx]

@@zylr ? I'm saying it to Kenzo

[@44unknown]

kenzo is the most chill guy, he wont say a word until he gets a nice shot and then he goes "oooh"

[@tbtnr9851]

Didn’t realise he was chill like that

[@very_unique_username]

He’s trying his hardest to get some more repetitive content, it’s hard to talk when you’re focused

[@Fartbox13]

Chill or just socially awkward

[@Mista_Cassla]

😂

[@doggo_2.049]

It reminded me of that one toxic streamer he made about and he was so chill

[@gabbe1257]

Love the 2nd streamer, he was so humble and just played for fun instead of just trying to win at all cost. Also called a cactus a watermelon lmao

[@AidanStewart9]

Yah I love warn lol

[@DrowsyYo]

Ngl i thought it was a watermelon too in that moment lol

[@JakePapa13]

Kenz wants to win at all costs and makes excuses when he dies.

[@DrowsyYo]

@@JakePapa13 ehhhh i wouldn't call it excuses, its more "im calling out my own mistakes"

[@Eizuha]

@@JakePapa13 yet you clicked on the video and watched it through

[@darksplash873]

Linkzr played absolutely insane, you can see how he often managed to get kenzo to be the one to peek, there just shooting before kenzo could. Also his aim is still incredible, even after having an inconsistent end to his owl career. Definitely still one of the top widow's in the game.

[@jiaweiye9489]

Yeah he immediately recognized kenzo’s peak patterns and movements by like the 6th exchange and then the kill gap started widening.

[@vinnypaolini9116]

@@jiaweiye9489 True. Still has to be encouraging for Kenzo though to have a competitive game with him.

[@phoenixflamegames1]

It shows very impressive and quick learning from linkzr.

[@ngmr.4452]

@@vinnypaolini9116 why do you think kenzo needs your 1 penny of comfort because he lost to linkzr? we all know how good they are

[@ArsenalMan123]

@@ngmr.4452 Calm down son, who took the jam out of your donut?

[@Dalinzir]

Yo Linkzr was so humble. He took his time to analyze your plays and adjust accordingly, that's a true pro.

[@sierraj.1459]

Man Linkzr's comments were so sweet, even though you lost I'd feel so good to be praised like that lol

[@120mmsmoothbore2]

Linkzr in his prime was probably better than most of the Shock DPS prime, which really says a lot. Even now after being nearly retired an entire year he's still top 10 Widow/Ash players in the game.

[@dazey856]

@@120mmsmoothbore2 I mean when you get that good, some of that’s going to stick with you even after a break tbh

[@thomascarson4677]

@@120mmsmoothbore2 he got cucked so hard in season 2 if goats wasn't a thing they might have won it all tbh

[@rngsmiles3979]

@@120mmsmoothbore2 Linkzr was the most inconsistent player in owl. He went from looking like he was the best in the world undisputed to feeling like he was not even in the game. Still great, but not top 10 good.

[@Real_Nutella]

@@rngsmiles3979 He most def is top10 good but not top3 good. I get your point, but when you account for anyone being in their prime, his prime was better.

[@libertyprime9307]

Linkzr's rep in the OWL was as arguably the strongest counter sniper, Widow 1v1 is his bread & butter. Fun video.

[@duncanhawk4500]

Yeah he knew whow to abuse that hit box around the corners it was cool to see someone with that much knowledge

[@spartanslaxwax]

Both Saya and ANS were better than Linkzr. I will agree that he's a class act though

[@libertyprime9307]

@@spartanslaxwax Talking more about 2018 Linkzr, before Ans even joined OWL.

[@KillOnS]

@@spartanslaxwax saya > peak linkzr >> ans > linkzr on average

[@WarnYT]

Thanks for inviting me! Next time we gotta 1v1 on Ashe 👀

[@toxicmeraki276]

i love how questron’s widow keeps flying in the air when he keeps dying 💀

[@elliotmay7571]

The flying Spider

[@TamWam_]

"i was always graceful in the air"

[@fakeexperte]

its incredibly impressive how hard linkzr destroyed kenzo, considering how EZ it is for kenzo to dominate every single other guy he played against

[@boyphobe]

it just goes to show how wide the gap really is between owl players and normal competitive players

[@donkbonktj5773]

@@boyphobe Yep. I would say the difference between an OWL player and an average GM player is like a master and a gold/plat.

[@brianmcclenahan617]

Linkzr has that arrow release touch as well as you. When clicking shots, your hands don't shake in the slightest. Very rare talent, very smooth motions. I can only imagine what the games would be like if you two were paired up, someone else would be sharing those hacker comments you get so much of.

[@Shadix8103]

I like how this video gives a "control" or a reference just to how good kenzo is. It really just motivates you to get better!

[@JJ-smh]

it was cool to see him get destroyed by linkzr to see how much difference there still is between top players

[@vinnypaolini9116]

@@JJ-smh I wouldn’t say destroyed. Obviously there a skill gap there but Kenzo did pretty well considering the competition.

[@madhatten00]

@@vinnypaolini9116 i think kenzo got too many spawn traps tho kenzo is actually closer to emore which means he is closer to contenders player or below except emore really lost cause he didnt know the spawns

[@LikeABaws81]

@@madhatten00 yeah agreed. A lot of kenzo’s kills were do to his spawn knowledge

[@bananabunch7181]

I love how Kenzo is so good and stays so calm even when he's got 200 ms ping. Honestly to me it feels like the game starts suffering at a lower latency than in Overwatch 1

[@ChildOfGod545]

Trust me, ow2 is far better when it comes to playability on higher latency

[@カモノハシo_o]

@@ChildOfGod545 300ms was playable in ow1 (roughly 1-2 second delay but it’s sti playable) I played in eu servers with my friends who were from eu( I’m from asia) In ow2 I get more than 150ms and people are tping around and it’s not even like hitreg delay. People just teleport around. Stopped playing with them because of it

[@ChildOfGod545]

@@カモノハシo_o I have notoriously bad internet, but after a few bad games last night it is just as bad if not worse. So I digress.

[@カモノハシo_o]

U clearly haven't read my paragraph, I'll literally record videos to compare if you want to ''digress'' that badly I have footage of 300ms gameplay from ow1, I'll try to join a eu server so I get 300ms again. also ''bad internet'' means packet loss its not the ping. If you're gonna base ur argument based on ''few bad games last night'' don't bother

[@ChildOfGod545]

@@カモノハシo_o my guy I literally agreed with you.

[@emore25]

We played a second game and i won, I promise :) Source: trust me bro

[@Hendrick_G]

I believe you, it was very close 😂

[@Sirpatpat]

The tracking all of these people have are insane, I have no confidence in playing DPS in ranked but I often practice in unranked to work on my tracking and such. Kenzo always humble to everyone and everything. Its refreshing and enjoyable, keep uploading em man!

[@malwinajandura8959]

Love how Kenzo and Linkzr are like the least toxic dudes ever, they don't get angry when shot just compliment the opponent

[@Diom11]

I love how no matter what kenzo is never toxic. He makes the game so much more enjoyable

[@LikeABaws81]

Honestly, this really made me realize the skill gap between good players like Kenzo and literal OWL (ex) pros. Kenzo did hold his own though, mad respect

[@calussy8040]

Didn't expect Noko to be in this, been watching him for a while and he's a great person with an awesome personality, happy to be watching him over here as well.

[@Kagarin05]

Would be nice to see these challenges on a different map, the dude had a point about the spawns. You’ve been playing this map for 1v1s for years now 😂

[@DarkSaintProductions]

What map would you suggest that is small enough to do 1v1 on ?

[@javiersgh]

@@DarkSaintProductions ecopoint: antartica, necropolis, black forest??

[@harleyyyyy2706]

I agree necropolis or something would be better half the kills were a little cringe, but still props to kenzo

[@MrXantrias]

@@harleyyyyy2706 how can these kills be called cringe? I think you may be misusing the word cringe here.

[@harleyyyyy2706]

@@MrXantrias plays like a loser

[@jankos2768]

kenzo destroying people at 120-160 ms is crazy tho

[@emport2359]

Wdym? U talking bout reaction time?

[@rreprah9515]

@@emport2359 his latency was pretty high sometimes. Thats what hes talking about.

[@jankos2768]

@@emport2359 ping

[@dazey856]

I mean he’s talked about before that widowmaker/hitscans aren’t really that hard to play for him at high latency, forget the video

[@DarkSaintProductions]

Have you seen him at 200? Bangin

[@RiasSenpaiTheWallet]

It was nice to see two of the people who inspired me to play widow 1v1 (linkzr, kenzo)

[@villanelle_3675]

Kenzo: I need to take my time a bit more with the shots Also Kenzo: *get a kill before I even realize there was something to shoot* #goat ❤😂

[@ty-foon2842]

This is the definition of none toxic competitive play. Sure they get loud and upset sometimes but in the end they just respect each other’s skill level instead of flaming them and being toxic.

[@impbonkity]

YESSSS against linkzr dude, the absolute joy i felt seeing that you went up against him!!! it'd be cool to see you go up against pine (from nyxl/fuel) at some point too!

[@voisrx2964]

linkzr vs kenzo the most calm 1v1 between demons lol

[@benbishop2589]

11:27 Linkzr trying to dodge IRL 😂😂😂

[@v1nniacb452]

LOL sometimes i do that too ngl

[@curtisstephens4482]

If you dont do it youre not trying!

[@fear8220]

Pro players are scary bro Didn't think there could be a better Widowmaker than Kenzo.

[@Kaiji...]

Technically in normal comp all of these are still better than him. A 1v1 is very different to 2-2-2, especially when a T500 D.Va/Tracer/Genji/Sombra/Ball/Sojourn/Echo/Winston/Kiriko/Zenyatta will try to insta-kill you on sight in those ranks.

[@donkbonktj5773]

Pretty much any OWL dps is better at widow.

[@coreyrd34]

Warn and Linkzr were pretty chill about the games and they weren't overly competitive!

[@Illiardys]

Honestly this really put into perspective how good the OWL players are / were..

[@amsd1231]

Yeah. Imagine ANS and Kenzo 1v1

[@ozylocz4078]

Not really… it’s just a widow duel. This doesn’t take into account game sense or having good tracking. T500 tanks and supports who are most definitely better than him would likely get rolled ina widow duel. Doesn’t mean anything…

[@Myh3ll0]

@@ozylocz4078 Most OWL flex supports have better mechanics than T500 dps. Even some tanks, because most pro used to play different roles before OWL and 2-2-2 was a thing.

[@KillOnS]

@@ozylocz4078 Yeah but all kenzo does is play widow 24/7.. Linkzr in those years had to learn tactics, practice with the team and get really good at like half the hero roster. If kenzo couldn't beat him in a widow 1v1, which is his bread and butter, there is not a single other hero kenzo could even dream of beating him on. I always knew owl pros are on another level but I wouldn't be that surprised if the game was closer or kenzo even won by a bit since he one tricks it. Even with being this far from his peak, he still demolished kenzo which just proves OP's point0

[@Mewshlie]

"watermelon diff" is so fucking funny and it's not even a watermelon which makes it so much funnier

[@Apollynai]

Noko is so wholesome man

[@biraininhe1]

I still remember this guy tried out Street fighter 5 and was so bad at it.

[@davidkosasih933]

i love how chill all these streamers are and how they can accept a loss without being a sore loser

[@kenryuu3665]

Really? What about the 3rd streamer Questron? Yelled and complained all the time, so annoyed.

[@davidkosasih933]

​@@kenryuu3665 thats definitely just his streamer personality

[@mrjamezjc9845]

@@baller4342 if you think hes an asshole then actually go watch him, noko is always over the top and silly, i can bet you my life savings he doesnt actually think kenzo is a cheater, hes just memeing and messing around, im sure he has a ton of respect for kenzo and his talent, yall need to stop shit talking a streamer you dont know and taking their humour so literally, not to mention it literally shows noko saying "ggs kenzo youre an absolute GOAT its just that simple"

[@davidkosasih933]

@@baller4342 hes obviously joking and when did he act like an a-hole?

[@vnvanilla]

bruh questron is yikes

[@Notas.s]

Love you Kenzo, ur content it's so good

[@TTV-WeskerIsMyDaddyT]

Found you through recent content and been absolutely loving the OW2 Stuff and the old stuff in between uploads, also NOKOOOOO I LOVE THAT GUY

[@D-d-dvon]

Linkzr's game sense was awesome to watch. Although you could tell some nerves with Kenzo too missing some shots he wouldn't usually miss

[@sv-bk]

I love how a top 100 player is getting excited while Kenzo is just politely warming up...

[@Takisgr07]

Well he lets them get the lead in the start and suddenly uses his "magic" after viewing 10+ of his videos its pretty obvious.

[@Karu_o_o]

@@Takisgr07 wow à hater

[@Karu_o_o]

@@Takisgr07 are all your fourteen com on this chanel is too say he cheat

[@akpade]

@@Takisgr07 You're saying he cheats? Idk I don't watch his videos but he looks pretty legit in this video

[@Takisgr07]

@@akpade i prefer to think that everyone is smart enough to tell the difference between the pros.

[@ManhuaOtaku]

funny you mentioned those blue glasses, i bought a pair a few months back because you mentioned them on a video before. I absolutely love them! especially because i have problems with light reception in my eyes

[@GRIMHOOD99]

Linkzr using the hitbox at 13:18 is actually insane.

[@Muphinman2]

im a huge kenzo fan but i was rooting for linkzr. Glad to see it was close early!

[@thearchitectofthehounds9815]

It's just the fact that we see a close game and then Kenzo says "I'm starting to get a little warmed up now."

[@KonvictionTV]

This music is soooo Jet Set Radio and I love it! Good job dude, you got me playing this game again!

[@promominion3514]

‘Less eye strain, easier see, good English’ win-win-win

[@Squiffy8]

I like that most of them actually dodge the shots IRL as well.

[@414PRisky]

The last dude started adapting mid fight 😅

[@Katalystic]

I love the noise questron makes when he dies lmao

[@christianmartinez2179]

It's the instant ª that gets me

[@BeardedHeroThe]

I do the same thing and when I drop below half health I go "ow ow ow ow someone please help me".

[@HirXeBomb]

Damn you finally met your match. Couldn't believe it but it happened.

[@mrjamezjc9845]

no way, my guy noko is here! and even better is getting slapped around by kenzo xD love to see his reactions to this kind of stuff happening to him

[@TheAnorak_]

Yo Kenzo, been watching your videos for a bit now. Like the content, so ive ordered a pair of these glasses with your link! Been looking for something like this for ages! Thanks again! Edit: Glasses are great! Ive stopped having headaches from too much exposure from blue light, tested them whilst gaming and they work a treat, slightly feel better in my ability to game since im not distracted by headaches and the like. Recommended!

[@Hideyoshi-Kurosawa]

7:01 "The watermelon!!!" That is a cactus...

[@Felip3Prado]

Tava louco pra sair outro vídeo de desafiando streamers, gosto de ver a reação de cada um, pois o Kenzo é um ótimo jogador. Vejo bastante canais de clipes, mas nunca vi o Kenzo lá, não sei se conhecem ele ou algo do tipo, ele faz umas jogadas incríveis, fico sempre impressionado. Adorei vídeo muito obrigado.

[@v1nniacb452]

Acho difícil ele ler e procurar a tradução do seu comentário

[@Felip3Prado]

@@v1nniacb452 kkkkkkk também acho, apenas queria expressar pra quem concorda também

[@reddisney4442]

I didn’t expect noko will did it that good Ggs boys

[@Niyachu]

Kenzo be dodging bullets IRL too

[@akpade]

Same for Link

[@rui12]

this video is literally the definition of "dont count your eggs before they hatch"

[@libertyprime9307]

As opposed to figuratively the definition.

[@biraininhe1]

You are so good, and wow Linkzr is even better.

[@gyalsnextman4725]

I used to play a lot of 1 shot window custom games on that map and once you learn the spawns you can literally shit on every lobby and 1v1 because there’s a spawn pattern after a while, if I remember correctly when you spawn near those stairs and he kills you if he moves to where he killed you, you’ll spawn near the healing pickups 99% of the time by then he can grapple and snipe you as you come out of spawn immortality.

[@chrissalas3247]

Kenzo we need a short with just your outro on it, it's fire

[@illusionq8y497]

i love this content man and going 4 to 1 wins is awesome .. thanks to the streamers that particapted in this as well *heart*

[@Mr-eu9yv]

Kenzo warming up on top 500 players

[@eman-pu5kk]

The ragdoll effects in this game is hilarious 😂

[@-meiam-]

Linkzr is the first person I have seen diffing Kenzo on widow that hard

[@gargaduk]

7:02 Dude, that's a cactus. Lol

[@Samtation]

This was crazy to watch! Keep it up Kenzo 🔥🔥🔥

[@Arancia206]

I really like watching Kenzo’s vids, they are satisfying, I don’t know why I have that feeling, but I like it. I have one question, which crossair do you use? Can someone answer me?

[@kryptic8720]

Yo kenzo ngl u deadass inspired me too play widow on mouse and keyboard and bro no joke from 4 days ago when i started i feel the difference in hitting shots more often and being more accurate with flicks and other things widows always been my favorite character but bcuz of skill i switch off a lot when i do bad cuz i don’t wanna be the reason my team loses 😂

[@L4C3RATION]

“The watermelon”. WARN, THAT IS A CACTUS. 💀

[@happymago1]

This video gave me MW2/BO2 Sniper 1vs1 vibes

[@NinjaCat121]

I love questron so much, hes so hilarious and for a sombra main he did well !!

[@9876543DUBS]

5-6 kills in under a minute and the game says "you will not receive experience for this match if you remain inactive" lol

[@nowhere2068]

the fact that Warn thinks that a watermelon

[@Soma-md1mf]

that sombra main DOES need to realize that widows gun charges up

[@rintintin4329]

“SMOKED!” After he literally got killed and smoked himself 😂

[@Nephozx]

Y'all were nuts, ggs all around.

[@iamalfiie7700]

Let me just say, as much as it sounds like I’m talking him down, kenzo has been playing these 1v1s as we can see from the video, and linkzr said he hasn’t done a 1v1 in forever. Man, I miss the linkzr widow sometimes

[@hrdgms27]

Kenzo is the reason why u don't complain about minor lag

[@Ledeljunkrat]

the 4 1v1 and the 5 1v1 was so fair omg and keep up this good work kenzo, it is really good

[@dentiqz8379]

Why only 360p?

[@muthomi__7097]

I've got 1440

[@Nova-ed8mk]

I think it depends since on my iPad and phone it’s 360 so it might depend what you use like tv or pc

[@DemiCape]

It takes time for new videos to be scaled properly sometimes. I remember some of my videos I uploaded being like 240p until after some hours later.

[@Masoch1st]

"I'm just going to take more time to line up the sho---" _insta flicks to a headshot_ 5:57

[@AkhmenHotep]

As someone who has worked for a few years in the optical industry blue light filtering lenses don't work as good as you think they do, if you are getting eye strain the best thing you can do is practise the 20-20-20 rule, every 20 minutes look at something at least 20m away for at least 20 seconds, if you are continuing to get eyestrain go and see an optometrist because you might find you need corrective lenses with quite a minor script for up close work. The only evidence for blue light lenses working is anicdotal stories of being able to get to sleep better because of a lack of the bright light tricking your brain into thinking it is day time, you can get the same effect through software settings that reduces the amount the blue pixels turn on shifting the colours a bit warmer. There you go, now you don't need blue light filtering glasses

[@neomo725]

just saw 짜누 on Linkzr's friend list lul.. great video! well played Kenzo

[@ruthlesscalculus6613]

So happy to see Questron ❤️

[@Legendalvin]

It’s so funny to see every player in Overwatch think himself a badass that only weakness they have is their teammates. I’m a regular Master/Legend player in SC2/HS, where 1v1 matters the most. Whenever I got a frustrated lost I would check replay and figure out where I did wrong, but in Overwatch, every single player check the replay after a lost , to figure out where his teammates did wrong ?! I mean what can you even improve from that…Yeah sure , only to tell yourself that the lost is not your fault at all, you are still that same badass

[@HabarudoD]

*shoots a cactus" "THE WATERMELON!!"

[@brandonbradway8712]

7:03 that sir, is a cactus

[@brraaappaholic]

Came because I saw you duoing with noko on stream, stayed because of solid content. Found another creator to watch 😁

[@twotime2man]

15/6 vs to lnkkzr is impressive if your fight #1 widowmaker main in "the world". kenzo is improving more from time to time.

[@donkbonktj5773]

Kenzo knew the spawn locations on Castillo, so he got more kills than he deserved.

[@trunke1085]

this video just shows the difference between streamers, contenders and owl. still well played "gosu"

[@trunke1085]

@011011 yeah i know

[@aliespada181]

What is the music at 1:50 ☹☹☹☹ I've been asking this for a while

[@FunPolice6969]

Those cactus where getting in there 🌵

[@littlecloudd]

“I have 600 fps and 0 delay” and bro still lost😂💀

[@lotus78]

yoooo the disrespect of Linkzr when he does the last kill and a 360 before it

[@satyakebakshi7896]

linkzr and kenzo are both gods

[@FoxTailGames]

Linkzr man, one of the og outlaws, dude is nutty on widow.

[@rockrick9988]

earlier today, with widow i missed body shots on an afk roadhog in bronze 4 and got killed by a stray junkrat grenade. How are people this good...?

[@mit2807ch]

practice, a lot of practice kenzo has over a thousand hours in widow alone

[@ub3rfr3nzy94]

I was very bad at widow but in the padt 2 weeks I put 30 hrs into widow and now I'm decent with her. Thought I'd never be able to play widow. Just practice in quickplay. The problem with widoe is just that when yoj cant hit shotd youre useless, where as a bad ashe or mcree still has some use. That's why people try her and switch when they do bad.

[@neartheend666]

@@ub3rfr3nzy94 on low ranks even if you open with 1-2 kills that doesn't mean anything as your team can still lose the teamfight. On high rank it's gg, go next teamfight. Even if u whiff a lot of shots, when u hit 1 or 2 that's all that's needed from you obv. Seeing a highlight reel of kenzo or any other widow player doesn't mean anything as they don't show all the shots they miss inbetween.

[@SoulAL13]

Yo i feel this whenever i pick bolt action weapon any game, i miss the shot more when the target standing still also whenever i use flank hero and got to the back without enemies knowing will also makes me miss the shot 🤣

[@ashonline77]

when i started playing widow i used to get like 5 or 6 headshots the entire game and if the enemy had a widow i always lost the duels cause my reaction time was too slow but after a year of playing her i can easily get top kills and damage and win most 1v1s in my elo at least. it just takes a lot of time and practice to get the aiming right with widow cause just because you are generally good with aiming doesn't mean you will be good with widow. you can see this a lot nowadays with people like tenz, timmy or aceu playing ow2 widow and wiffing a lot of shots that widow players will find easy to hit.

[@josephmcc234dy3]

Overwatch should throw an allstar event and have 1v1’s w the DPS. Hanzo and Widow can basically be like an NBA 3pt contest. Genji vs Genji or Tracer vs Tracer would be cool also.

[@jason__lai]

Noko's reactions have me rolling

[@lyannnguyen4683]

I recognized Noko as an apex streamer. Was cool seeing him in this video(: didn’t even know he played Overwatch like that

[@icarustorres6839]

Love the Dr robotniks music in the back

[@noahedenborg4221]

bruh that aint no watermelon keep it up kenzo luv your vids

[@lruddy8820]

Ive always wonder how much better owl players are then top500/gm and watching linkzr compared to the other 4 streamers makes it very obvious

[@120mmsmoothbore2]

To be fair Linkzr shouldn't be considered an average OWL hitscan DPS, he's on par with Ans/Carpe who are easily tied for best Widow in the entire games history, maybe only rivalled by DaFran on Soldier.

[@valentinpicart]

@@120mmsmoothbore2 sorry to break it to you but ANS is way above these guys LOL, seriously dude, carpe???

[@120mmsmoothbore2]

@@valentinpicart Linkzr and Ans fought last year and the match statistics were fairly even between them. I'll admit Carpe transitioned from a Widow main to a lore general hitscan player so he's probably not comparable to them anymore, but his Ashe and Soldier are exceptionally good in comparison to Ans' and Linkzr.

[@valentinpicart]

@@120mmsmoothbore2 I mean I admit carpe in his prime was a pleasure to watch especially on widow but now he got replaced thats just the way it is he's not as good as he once was. Always loved Linkzr tho maybe I didnt realize he was this good since he played on shittier teams

[@120mmsmoothbore2]

@@valentinpicart Like I said Carpe has transitioned to a more general hitscan player. There's a reason he's still on a team despite not playing much recently, he fills a niche that's sorely needed in a lot of teams. And yeah Linkzr played on the Titans almost exclusively I think, I'm not sure why he wasn't signed or bought by other bigger teams especially when the meta last year was very Widow heavy for a while. Then again they all had their own Widow players that may not have been better individually but as a team most were miles better than the Titans.